Daemon Has the biggest balls, imagine getting kicked out of Kingslanding 2 times or 3? and always returns, i can only see the eyeroll of Caraxes in the Dragonpit be like "ey man we goin again? u got kicked out again? 🤣
@@peach5438 lol not really, if you’re exiled by the king you don’t return (no matter the occasion) He’s done so like four times at this point. It does show he really does do what he wants and he isn’t afraid of consequences because he knows Viserys is aware that he can go all the way and not give a sht, Viserys is weak because he can’t really do much against it. If he retaliated then daemon blows it all to hell and there’s war, and Viserys isn’t ready/can’t handle it. Daemon has the upper hand in most things he does, and yes he has courage since its literally always against the set rules lol
@@peach5438 no offense I didn’t really read much of your comment. I don’t care enough honestly. Think what you will. I have the books in mind as well when speaking on this topic not just a few eps of a show :)
@@peach5438 Clearly stated we have our own opinions and I said mine are based off the books as well. Doesn’t mean anyone has to be “right” this is clearly off of personal opinions and understandings lmao there’s no factually correct way to perceive what the conversation was about. If you think someone HAS to be right or wrong then I have nothing else to say to you ✌🏼
The two dragons that you see in this episode are seasmoke, leanor’s dragon. Then the red colored dragon is maleyes, his mother rhaneys taragaryan’s dragon. She will be an important dragon in the future. Also she called her dragon the red queen and her dragon was known to be the swiftest of all of them.
13:22 Daemon really only got to enjoy a lot of freedom because his brother, the King, spoils him. And even though they always fight, the King always forgives him and lets him get away with things he does because really had good childhood and early adulthood together.
Nah she didn't poison him, he was already deteriorating. And Criston's lost his mind, Joffrey's only coaxing him into a secret pact to protect Laenor and Rhaenyra but Dorne boy didn't want to be a sidepiece. He wants to marry Rhaenyra to regain his honor and quite frankly, it seems he's the type to fall in love with a one night stand.
There is a lot we didn't see, like how the fight started and who caused it and why did Cole attack him. If he attacked him for no reason then he would have been punished.
@@blacprophet1153 he had no choice. Rhae exerted her power over him that night knowing he had feelings for her. He said stop several times and paused a few times to consider his vow and the consequences.
@@itss_nattyj Naw, she can't rape him!. He could have stopped thet! She is a queen but if he wanted to he could have just said no and leave the room!!!!
Daemon really pulled an uno reverse on the cousin. “Who is you?” “The cousin of the wife you killed” “yeah well now your home goes to me, so pack up brother”
Ser Criston is like Romeo being "Fortune's fool" when he kills the wrong person, but he got pushed over the line when Ser Joffrey made that low-key threat to keep his secret.
I think the reason the wedding happened after the violence is because the whole hall saw how Laenor reacted to Joffrey’s death. They had to move that wedding up quick to save Laenor’s so called “honor”.
no i think it's because they were afraid smth worse would happen before they got married so they rushed it. and they didn't feek like celebrating no more + word goes fast in King's landing
My favorite scene last night was when queen Alicent walked into the room, wearing a green dress, and the strong brother asked what color are the high tower banners when they’re getting ready to go to war? The other brother responded green. #Itson
nah the best part of that scene was the utter disrespect by daemon sitting and not giving a fuck while everyone rose as is customary for the queen lol, he doesnt respect other houses and sure as hell couldnt give a fuck about otto's daughter even if she is queen.
Corlys is so petty. Not receiving the King formally and letting him come to the throne room just to feel some kind of power, but still bending the knee when the king is right on his face. That's what Tywin would call 'low cunning'.
Alicent is betrayed by the king and lied by her bestfriend until this episode alicent was the closest ally to her husband and best friend alicent feels like she need to protect her children and play the game
Seriously good for her... after watching her ENDLESSLY defending Rhaenyra for 4 episodes straight no matter what and gaining nothing but miserability... protect your children
And targaryens can only bond with one dragon in their lives so once that dragon died he physically can't ride another dragon ever again, unfortunately. So it's not that he just doesn't like dragons and is choosing to not ride... he literally can't bond with one to ride another dragon. But he does seem to have slight distain towards dragons as he did say it was a mistake for humans to have domesticated them in previous episodes.
The ending montage was my favorite scene of the series so far. Give me the aesthetics of the red hue of the weirdwood tree glowing in twilight, give me the flickering lights, give me the gloomy ambience of a GoT wedding with an equally gloomy soundtrack & it’s A1! The slightly overlooked heartfelt exchange Otto & Alicent had at the beginning was the most significant moment of the episode imo, other than Viserys dropping. Otto is right. You either hope for Rhaenyra’s mercy in the future or you act now. It's the Tywin Jaime "we can establish a dynasty that last a thousand years" moment. The wedding sets up the first chess pieces for Dance of Dragons. *Rhaenyra and Laenor were being told their wedding vows, but it was Alicent and Criston who were getting “married”.*
Since Alicent married into house Targaryen, she's expected to wear the colors of her husbands house, red and black. But instead wore the colors of her family.
Alicent has been a staunch ally to Rhaenyra up until now. She was raised to believe that duty is important. This is why she obeyed her father when he pimped her out to endear herself to the king -- the show displays she's not happy about it (constantly picking at her fingers until they bleed, only responding with "if you wish it" when her father asks her if she will see the king). Westorsi society does not allow noblewomen agency in marriage -- between Otto pressuring her and the king choosing her, Alicent effectively had no option to refuse the marriage. Despite all this, the only time she rebelled against her father was in fully supporting Rhaenyra. Even when Rhaenyra was angry with her and even after Aegon was born, Alicent still supported Rhaenyra's being named heir to any who questioned it (she told Viserys naming Rhaenyra was a good thing when he expressed doubt, Alicent defended Rhaenyra when Otto pressured her about Aegon taking the thrown, and she did not try to convince Viserys to change the succession even when her father explicitly told her to do so). When Rhaenyra found herself in the rare position of being able to select her own husband, Alicent helped in setting up the tour and organizing suitors for Rhaenyra to choose from. When both the King and her own father believed Rhaenyra had "sullied" herself, Alicent (while upset) still went to Rhaenyra first to get the truth. When Rhaenyra swore upon her mother's memory to lie by omission about being a virgin, Alicent believed her and came to her defense when Viserys doubted Rhaenyra. In this episode, she came to Rhaenyra's defense again when saying goodbye to her father. The same way she believed Rhaenyra was 100% truthful about being a virgin, Alicent also believed Rhaenyra would never endanger her own children. All this is to say that I don't think it's jealousy that's driving Alicent in this episode. When Alicent learned that Rhaenyra lied to her upon something as sacred as her own dead mother's memory, she felt betrayed and realized that she can no longer trust Rhaenyra. As far as Alicent knows, her father was dismissed as Hand because he reported rumors that questioned Rhaenyra's virtue -- which adds to the betrayal. She realized that her father was right: Rhaenyra lied and cannot be trusted. She also realizes that she can't trust her own children to be safe if Rhaenyra is made queen. I believe it's this sense of betrayal and fear for her children that now drives Alicent.
Yeah when I heard the woman in the video say such things my heart was broken... I mean she is just a kid whose father is gone now and she's alone... She hasn't done anything wrong YET
@@zawa7497 They act like she was orchestrating a whole rebellion. She has been a tool all along with barely any agency. It’s from when she donned the green dress that we will see her actions being her own
@@zawa7497 MC will decide she doesn’t like certain characters on sight and will reject anything wholesome or smart they say or do, expecting the worse of them. I’ve seen her respond to other characters in that manner (super judgmental and petty) in their reactions to other content. I’m really only here for Syntell because he’s actually funny and thoughtful and not afraid to admit he’s wrong or misjudged a character.
@@itss_nattyjyeah, this woman seriously has it out for Alicent from the start for no apparent reason, it's just one bad take after another from her mouth
27:16 Eh, it's not because Alicent is jealous that Rhaenyra was able to bed a handsome young knight. It's because she believes that one of the reasons why her father was fired as the hand is because she told the king that she believes Rhaenyra is still a virgin, but it turns out that Rhaenyra just straight up lied to her.
I believe your right but I do also believe she is jealous. The contrast the show did in ep 4 with her bedding the king to Rhaenyra’s night out with Daemon and Criston was done purposely. Rhaenyra has all the freedom in the world to disobey her father. Alicent must always fall in line to hers. Yes she did trust Rhaenyra and Rhaenyra lied to her, but I also think it’s a bit of “You’re just gonna do what you want while I have to sit locked up in this castle sleeping with an old rotting man. I don’t think so”
@@Ries41794 I think she was jealous of Rhaenyra when they met on tree spot in episode 4. But in this episode, imo even if she was still feeling jealous, it was overshadowed with her father's dismissal, especially as Otto just told her that she knows, but she chose to believe in her friend, but that friend betrayed her trust.
Alicent been showing jealousy since episode 1 when she and Rhaenyra were under the tree talking about her position if Lady Aemma were to have a boy. Alicent is mad bc she has to be locked away having children and Rhaenyra is living a lot freely.
@@iconoclast6555 yes I think on the surface that is what’s fueling this new inner rage from her, however when you start peeling back the layers I think it’s a mixture of her own insecurities and jealousy. Her father was scheming way before Alicent had children with the king. So him using the whole “Rhaenyra is going to kill your kids” is ridiculous. Why put your daughter in this position in the first place then? He underestimated Rhaenyra’s strength and fathers love/loyalty to her. Alicent knows this. She knows who her father is. So why is Alicent truly mad then? Because her friend lied to her? Well Alicent lied to Rhaenyra as well, and why does Alicent care so much who Rhaenyra is sleeping with? Alicent is miserable and unhappy with herself (always being meek and dutiful) ANd here is Rhaenyra disobeying and still getting freedom and what she wants. If Alicent was a true friend she would of covered for Rhaenyra maybe even be happy for her to have found love, but she wants Rhaenyra to be confined the way she is. Just my take on it.
She's jealous too tho. Even before Otto was fired, she was jealous that she got to do what Alicent can't. She's truly jealous of Rhaenyra's life. Don't twist it like Alicent is a saint lmao.
idk when i first watched it, Criston's interaction with the ginger guy was super weird and the whole convo he had with criston felt almost like a threat. I guess this episode just showed how emotionally driven of a character he is and how much shit that can cause lol. I cant wait to see his relationship develop with Alicent though, so much potential. This was probably the best episode for me so far. this and the 4th one. also Alicent's entry gave me goosebumps, that music was poppin off
you talk as tho Alicent has a choice in the whole matter. in fact through out the current episodes, she's been the most decent of a person. so not sure why some are hating on her
Cuz she's kind of known as the villain of the book. That's why people don't like her. She's not a good person. And the show has been slowly hinting at it and lots of reacters have been picking up on those hints and foreshadowing.
@@zawa7497 yes, I know pretty much all characters are grey in this story. I'm fully aware. She is more black than white morally tho, IMO. Also I said NOT a good person... She is a villain and not a good person. 🤷♀️
Would you two please move in next door to me so we can all watch Twin Peaks together and lose our minds trying to figure out the puzzles therein? 😂 You're a real breath of fresh air and made me smile.
The King is weak for many reasons but 1. He can't even keep his family in order. His brother turned up after being banished then intimately dancing with his neice at HER WEDDING PARTY. Then his wife calling up banners for war. If he can't keep his family in order, how is he going to keep 6 different releams in order?
Viserys is the best king we've ever seen in the Game of Thrones universe, his problem is that he's a people pleaser. But there is no way Robert, Joffery, Cercie etc
@@GLitiatc0 So far yea, it goes like Viserys (atleast in the show, in the books not so much he was a fat old geezer didn't do shit much but i like the show Viserys one better) > Tommen (good while it lasted) > Robert > Cersie >= Joffrey.
Lmao he was not the best king. All of these problems building up are because of his choices and choosing his daughter to be heir knowing that people won't accept it , add in the fact that given her choices, Rhaenyra isn't going to be a good queen either. Civil war is coming in hot.
The two dragons were Princess Rhaenys (Corlys Velayron's wife) on Meleys the Red Queen and their son Laenor Valayron on Seasmoke. I would say the king is very weak. He had to go TO Corlys house to ask for his daughter to marry Laenor. He doesn't get respect from anyone. Nobody waiting to greet him is BIG disrespect. Remember Game of Thrones E1 when Robert rolled up to Winterfell? HUGE greeting party with everybody all lined up to welcome the king.
I feel like the hate for Alicent is a bit much atleast in my opinion I agree she isn’t a perfect character but like y’all praise Damon saying he’s bold in spite of all the shitty things he did but designate alicent as the “cunning” women inspire her support rhaenyra and stood up to her in front of the king
I think it’s because daemon aint really actually planning on getting rid of anyone just building the family name as of now, and he is very open with what he does in a way. Alicent is actually planning and will be secretly spiteful, as well as betraying and manipulating which feels worse since you expect it from daemon but she was meant to be a friend
@@marti9734 nah, he killed his wife because he wants to marry someone he loves. But again that shows nothing in regards to the convo at hand. It’s about people hating alicent more- and like I said it was expected from him, Alicent was meant to be better and a friend and it hurts worse from her side of things. Being openly rude is better than being slyly a snake
First time watching and the fishy joke made me laugh. Refreshing to see and hear you two enjoy the show, and like most viewers from the perspective of not having read fire & blood. I have not, but I have read parts of the world of ice and fire so I know some of the things to come. But I look forward to some surprises. Thank you for the content and entertainment. 👏🏾
I think Corless won the negotiation. If the grandchildren grow up being Valaryans, will they really change their name to Targarian after their Targarian grandfather is dead?
Right now Alicent is like 19/20 in the show I think. She's choosing her own children over the dangers that Rhaenyra and Daemon will potentially bring into her life. In the book neither Rhaenyra or Alicent are good people per say, I really like how the show is handling everything.
13:00 homosexuality is frowned on in Westeros, but it’s not actively oppressed either. It’s not something you’d get executed for. It’s loosely the same level as adultery: the clergy says people aren’t supposed to do it, but they still do - people just don’t talk about it in public.
I think too much hate for Alicent is derived from moves thrust upon her by her father. Especially considering women in this time had little to no agency. That’s the dynamic I see between R and A, they are both victims of this hyper-patriarchal system and are navigating it their own ways (which the other low key detests). Alicent marrying the king was not what I would consider a choice. When she finally really stood on her own and basically in opposition of Otto, she found out she was lied to by her “friend”. I expect Alicent to actually become hate-able b4 the season wrap, but as of now she’s not any less sympathetic than Rhaenyra.
people kept hyping up daemon but his logic will result in a ruined kingdom: 1. targaryeans do anything they want because they have dragons. 2. he wants to marry rhaenyra for the crown and he even verbalised about wanting to usurp his brother as a king. 3. he sees a king as someone who been through a war. 4. he's impulsive. 5. he can't even rule for more than a year before he got bored in the narrow sea. none of the above will result in him being a good king. he's sitting in the passenger seat just making comments about how the king should drive. he never once displayed ANY signs of being a good king. Westeros is prosperous now without any war...with daemon, there will be war after war. also if anyone notice: daemon has been TRYING to claim the throne for YEARS and all his plotting resulted in nothing. that speaks volume about his incompetency, and the writing shows. but people just choose not to see it.
Alicent's entrance itself is extremely disrespectful even though she doesn't say anything. As Viserys' wife and queen, she was supposed to enter at his side, wearing Targaryen colors (since it's an official occasion); but she wore the colors of her own family (green for Hightower).
why is the man defending ser criston? Criston thinks of himself as one of the good and honorable guys but he is not a good person, he broke his vow at the first ounce of temptation, then he had decency to ask for rhaenyra's hand so he stops feeling shitty about himself, kills a nobleman at the wedding where the king is present and gets away with it. what you mean watch your mouth? he literally killed a man and you're all about watch your mouth? tf. The lady has much better insight on all of this
Yo chill man, people can can different opinions. It's true that Rhaenyra used Criston and he's hurt and wounded. It was very wrong of him to do what he did but he just got played. He is not daemon or any powerful man who has other possessions. Remember Jaimie? A knight's biggest possession is his honour and he broke his oath because the princess wanted him to and he wanted do so too. You can hate him and understand where he is coming from at the same time.
@@zawa7497 rhaenyra did not use him, it sucks you see that way. criston wanted her as much she wanted him and he could've said no, but he didnt. rhaenyra showed no force or threaten him in any way, he broke his vow because he couldnt resist the temptation and that is on him, not to mention rhaenyra was a lot younger than him. he let his feelings win and killed a man that didnt deserve it. he's a dramatic incel and he will do worse things in the future, just wait and see. oh and don't tell me to chill i wasnt being aggressive or anything i have every right to comment my opinion.
Well ser criston is well and a good man. But Rhaneyra is responsible for his breakdown. She is responsible for breaking of his vows. So he wants to leave this kingsguard post as he break the vow. And just imagine if someone use u just for having s x. And marrying some other person. Christon Cole come from a small house means this post is very precious to him. But Rhaneyra just destroy him as a person and break his heart.
@@Noone91875 he is definitely not a good man, he's one of these ‘nice guy syndrome’ dudes. if his post is very precious to him he should have resisted being horny and not sleep with the princess. stop blaming rhaenyra for his breakdown, he's a grown ass man he should have known better instead he acts like a bitch with hurt feelings. dude slept with her once and acts like they're in love.
@@hopeaway9485 wow rude much, anyways I don't get how you couldn't see it. Rhaenyra is the princess and the heir,he definitely wanted it but it she had power over him. And yess she did use him as a way to get back at her uncle who left her without doing much.
If being Viserys' Queen and the mother of his sons is so dangerous, why did Otto push so hard for Alicent to be in that position, much less for those grandchildren to be born into it? He could have arranged a good marriage for her, a discrete word to the king a year after Aemma's death and Viserys would have been glad to help find someone who was decent, fairly wealthy, politically appropriate, etc, and not too old (and maybe even attractive).
Otto is a damn fool let’s not forget he FORCED his daughter into that situation for his own gain and now telling her she has to continue down this path which his grandson being on the throne he’s infected his family and he’s responsible for his daughter entering her villain era
He didn't force her. He did however set it up by asking her to continue her meetings with Viserys and suggesting she dress up nicely. This was manipulative, since she wasn't really aware of what this could lead to at the time, whereas he of course was, but he didn't force her to do anything. That being said, I would still say his scheming was indeed responsible for putting her into the situation. He could just as well have kept her out of it and supported the decision for Viserys to marry Laena. He wouldn't have had a chance for his own blood on the throne that way, but this would have been the by far best decision for the stability of the realm, which Oldtown and House Hightower benefits greatly from. His own ambition has not only put his daughter in danger, but also put his house in a precarious situation; they're trying to signal strength now, but they know that they don't have the same military strength or prowess as most other houses, having opted to stay out of wars as much as possible (since their house and the city they are based in both rely primarily on trade and knowledge, hence why Otto would have done better to leave his perceived opportunity be and simply focused on keeping the realm stable).
Ser Criston was a spiritual man who broke his vows and broke something deep inside of him, more so than Jon Snow breaking his vows. At least Snow knew of the White Walkers and could cling to that to keep going forward. Criston clung to the hope of "making an honest woman" out of Rhaenyra, but she all but laughed in his face. And to top it off, not only did he find out the Queen knew (he was so in his feelings he never realized she didn't know until he confessed) but here a total stranger could figure it out. The Queen he could maybe trust to keep it a secret but this new guy he never met before? That was the final straw. To paraphrase Fiona Apple, Rhaenyra's been a bad bad girl / She was reckless with a delicate man / And it's a sad, sad world / When a girl can break a boy just because she can. 🎵🎵🎵😱😭🤣 th-cam.com/video/FFOzayDpWoI/w-d-xo.html
I do NOT trust the new hand! He's lowkey pulling the strings intertwining his son's into making sure Rhaenyra does not succeed Viserys in becoming Queen. Remember, he was also against Rhaenyra being named the heir to the Iron Throne.
Remembering that the book fire and blood is narrated by dubious narrators The book is told by rumors and gossip so it is not reliable, in the book it says that Daemon never likes his wife he hates her the daemon was forced to marry his wife she it is not important in the story In the book there is nothing about her just that she is married to Daemon and that after a while the news comes from her that she died and that she died falling from the horse that is all that is said about the daemon's wife in the Book As I said,Daemon's wife is not important in the story,no one cares about her and the only thing to watch in the scenes when she talks about Daemon's wife is when Rhaenys says that Daemon's wife died,no one paid attention to the news she said That's because she's not important, in the books we don't know if it was the daemon who killed his wife because when she dies the daemon is in a war so we don't know if it was him, in the series they said it was the Daemon who killed his wife the daemon is not killing his wife because she had already lost the movement of her body So much so that he was leaving but the girl was very stupid she opened her mouth so he killed her, the scriptwriters are Ryan they said they said that Daemon is not the kill his wife if she didn't open her mouth, more like She opened her mouth so he'll kill her Being a Christian, if you soiled your white command, it was because you wanted to, because Rhaenyra didn't stick a knife in your neck and force you to do what you did, do you really think that, Rhaenyra? And give up everything just to be with him, my God, this girl is a princess she is heir to the throne she has her customs she is not one to give up everything to have a simple life, Rhaenyra is not in love with Christian she just wants to have fun she just wants sex that's all Christian you are very emotional you are very deluded you and stupid rhaenyra would never give up everything for you Christian you and only a knight have nothing to offer her
🙄🙄🙄🙄 Daemon Daemon Daemon!!! I have no doubt the Vale is gonna be on the side of The Greens in season 2. The reason Daemon didn't want his first wife is because she was a descendant of the first men not of old Valyria
Nah I love Alicent, shes the only innocent person around. Rhaenyra has brought trouble onto everyone. Otto might have seemed scheming, but he never actually did anything bad for the realm, it all just happend to be good for him aswell. I'm siding with the greens on this one, and with Daemon because hes cool, but Rhaenyra has fucked everyone up for selfish reasons. So right now I'm liking Alicent, Otto, Daemon, and House Strong, the new hand of the king is cool and his sons seem to be very useful while not having bad intentions. The jealousy angle you guys are looking at Alicent from is completely wrong if you ask me. If that was the case and she just wanted to ruin it for Rhaenyra then she could have just avoided backing her up on her virginity claim. Viserys would have had to believe Otto eventually and Rhaenyra would have been in deep shit, but Alicent backed her up because she was coping, hoping that Rhaenyra didn't throw away everything she and the king worked for. They're all doing their duty regardless of how hard it is but Rhaenyra just throws it all away for selfish reasons, thats where the tension is coming from, not any sort of jealousy from Alicent, that doesn't make sense. And the threat to her children on top of what obviously sours the situation even more. She was blissfully okay with the idea that her kids wouldn't be kings until she got the reality check that people will go to war to have the kings first born son on the throne. If a single one of them grows up and expresses ambitions for the throne then it would 100% mean that Rhaenyra has to kill him to maintain the claim, and Rhaenyra has been shown to be selfish enough to do that. Remember how she said she liked the guy who kept harassing the lil boy during the matchmaking scene? And how she constantly keeps lying to save face? While also expecting people to fall in line with her selfish desires? Thats where all the problems come from, not Alicent.
Thankyou very much!! Love this comment. I mean you are watching HotD not some teenage show. Everybody is going to do vile and disgusting things and there's no whose that's only good in the show. It was a complete turn off for me from the lady. You could understand everybody at the same time it's not that hard
The hate for Allicent, like several comments before me, is way too undeserved. This is a turning point for her and she will be easy to hate going forward but up to this point she did nothing to warrant being hated. How hard is it to understand that Criston’s honour is the only thing that gave him value and if he broke this than he feels he is no more than a peasant or commoner. As he says, that’s the only thing to his name. Without that he’s nothing. You’re not supposed to be part of the Kings guard or whatever if you broke your oath of chastity and Rhaenyra unknowingly broke him by putting him into a position where he felt like he couldn’t refuse her bc she’s the princess. If he said no, she could easily just flip the script and order his death or some worse consequences involving him getting tortured like he said to Allicent. Joffrey was making a subtle threat to Criston to not tell anyone and provoked him but he didn’t know that Criston wasn’t ok with it like he was and was struggling internally with his morals and felt like he was betraying himself, his name, and everyone by continuing to serve as a knight so if Criston took him out, then all would be cleared anyway since he intended to off himself and there wouldn’t be any consequences for either of them if anyone else found out about their lovers. Also Allicent married out of duty, she wasn’t head over heels for Viserys and hoping everything would be “peachy keen from here on out” with Rhaenyra. Newsflash, women, especially younger women, don’t have much say in their own marital affairs and choices in their life in this time. Also… Viserys is literally dying and y’all are just calling him lazy and tired… he’s sick, obviously he’s not going to be functioning well. And it’s been decades since he rode a dragon. He’s not a fighter, so again obviously, he’s not used to motion sickness and surely would not be used to riding dragons since he hasn’t done it in ages.
the pattern of people supporting, justifying or empathising with criston's actions is mortifying. Never mind murder, if someone snaps and resorts to any kind of violence, it's 100% on them. what a cowardly thing to do!
Syntell really fanboying on Daemon lol. Swag and dragon doesn't really solve everything though. Can't wait for him to find out if Daemon will be successful in his plan to get the Eyrie.
@@endor8witch are you stupid? He literally does everything and gets it at the end. There's no easy route for him that's why he doesn't get it himself. Don't be naive. His sons and grandsons are future monarch, his blood.
Y’all gotta go a little easier on Alicent. She was basically pimped out by her father to a 40+ year old man at the age of 15-16. She had no real choices and now she has to deal with the consequences of what other people decided should happen for her life. Rhaenyra and Daemon are literally carrying on in public at her own engagement ceremony. Everyone knows Daemon is pretty much a murderer (his wife) after this wedding. How is she supposed to trust someone who’s choosing to be so close to him, especially after what her father said to her?
👎 Alicent is not jealous. If you are paying attention and not just hatin, she was lied to by Rhaenyra who Alicent fought for and believed that got her father Otto fired as a hand. Last episode she defended Rhaenyra's virtue to the king. She felt betrayed by Rhaenyra's lie. You hatin so much on Alicent thinking she is poisoning the king but her character was portrayed as someone who obeys and performs her duties from the very beginning. You never mentioned any negativity about Rhaenyra betraying her father and the Velaryon family by asking her uncle to run with her. 👎Disliking this video because of the hate on Alicent's character without checking what made her upset and what she has been doing with her duty to her father and as a wife to the king while Rhaenyra messes up and brings headaches to the king. "Alicent going to use Criston as a pawn for her evil plan" Lady Reactor has a bias hate. Alicent saw the honesty and loyalty of Criston to his calling as a Knight and she relates to him as they both are performing their duties with honesty and decency.
Daemon came to that wedding to start something but the side pieces was ahead of him.
Daemon doesn’t want peace he wants problems
That side piece was itching to start something😅
Daemon is just a horrible person!
@@blacprophet1153 They are all horrible people.
Larys Strong: “I may not have two good legs, but I sure as hell have the tea. Speaking of tea…..”
Daemon Has the biggest balls, imagine getting kicked out of Kingslanding 2 times or 3? and always returns, i can only see the eyeroll of Caraxes in the Dragonpit be like "ey man we goin again? u got kicked out again? 🤣
that's not big balls, that's pea brained.
@@peach5438 lol not really, if you’re exiled by the king you don’t return (no matter the occasion) He’s done so like four times at this point. It does show he really does do what he wants and he isn’t afraid of consequences because he knows Viserys is aware that he can go all the way and not give a sht, Viserys is weak because he can’t really do much against it. If he retaliated then daemon blows it all to hell and there’s war, and Viserys isn’t ready/can’t handle it. Daemon has the upper hand in most things he does, and yes he has courage since its literally always against the set rules lol
@@peach5438 no offense I didn’t really read much of your comment. I don’t care enough honestly. Think what you will.
I have the books in mind as well when speaking on this topic not just a few eps of a show :)
@@peach5438 Clearly stated we have our own opinions and I said mine are based off the books as well. Doesn’t mean anyone has to be “right” this is clearly off of personal opinions and understandings lmao there’s no factually correct way to perceive what the conversation was about. If you think someone HAS to be right or wrong then I have nothing else to say to you ✌🏼
The two dragons that you see in this episode are seasmoke, leanor’s dragon. Then the red colored dragon is maleyes, his mother rhaneys taragaryan’s dragon. She will be an important dragon in the future. Also she called her dragon the red queen and her dragon was known to be the swiftest of all of them.
daemon don’t give a damn tried to make out with rhaenyra in the middle of the party 😂
13:22 Daemon really only got to enjoy a lot of freedom because his brother, the King, spoils him. And even though they always fight, the King always forgives him and lets him get away with things he does because really had good childhood and early adulthood together.
That's Viserys's weakness I'd say. He loved his brother too much
@@zawa7497 for all Daemons faults he loves he loves his family more than anything even when he says otherwise he'd die for them
@@Redd-Monarch yeah that's right
The King should have had Daemon's head on a pole a long time ago!
Nah she didn't poison him, he was already deteriorating. And Criston's lost his mind, Joffrey's only coaxing him into a secret pact to protect Laenor and Rhaenyra but Dorne boy didn't want to be a sidepiece. He wants to marry Rhaenyra to regain his honor and quite frankly, it seems he's the type to fall in love with a one night stand.
Cole is more into power than love, later we will see.
There is a lot we didn't see, like how the fight started and who caused it and why did Cole attack him. If he attacked him for no reason then he would have been punished.
@@khaalmalki4039 Cole is stupid what did he think was going to happened concerning sleeping with the queen and destroying your vow to the Throne!
@@blacprophet1153 he had no choice. Rhae exerted her power over him that night knowing he had feelings for her. He said stop several times and paused a few times to consider his vow and the consequences.
@@itss_nattyj Naw, she can't rape him!. He could have stopped thet! She is a queen but if he wanted to he could have just said no and leave the room!!!!
Daemon really pulled an uno reverse on the cousin. “Who is you?”
“The cousin of the wife you killed”
“yeah well now your home goes to me, so pack up brother”
The shots of the Vale in the beginning were filmed in Castleton, which is situated in the middle of England.
Ayo the "something seems fishy" about her death had me rollin
That Daemon/Rhea scene was shot in Derbyshire, England. It is the same PASS that the Princess Bride shot of rolling down the hill was filmed!
Ser Criston is like Romeo being "Fortune's fool" when he kills the wrong person, but he got pushed over the line when Ser Joffrey made that low-key threat to keep his secret.
I think the reason the wedding happened after the violence is because the whole hall saw how Laenor reacted to Joffrey’s death. They had to move that wedding up quick to save Laenor’s so called “honor”.
Though Joffrey was known as his 'best friend' so idk why people would be surprised at such a reaction.
no i think it's because they were afraid smth worse would happen before they got married so they rushed it. and they didn't feek like celebrating no more + word goes fast in King's landing
My favorite scene last night was when queen Alicent walked into the room, wearing a green dress, and the strong brother asked what color are the high tower banners when they’re getting ready to go to war? The other brother responded green. #Itson
nah the best part of that scene was the utter disrespect by daemon sitting and not giving a fuck while everyone rose as is customary for the queen lol, he doesnt respect other houses and sure as hell couldnt give a fuck about otto's daughter even if she is queen.
@@sanjaysanj5603 in books demon was killed by alicents son😐
And the pricess reh was killed by alicent's son's (aegon) dragon
Lmao I spoiled everything
Y'all need to keep the book spoilers to yourselves.
The actor who played Viserys really did a good job. It must be difficult to be dying for so many years.
Is funny how everyone keeps talking about the king dying but he doesn't lol
We all sitting here every week we think he’s dead, he’s never dead! He’s pure wreckage, but he’s not dead! 😂😂
Love how you both guessed most of the plot of this episode as yous were watching 😆 glad I found your channel!
I love you guys so much. Your chemistry makes watching your reactions even better! ❤️
Corlys is so petty. Not receiving the King formally and letting him come to the throne room just to feel some kind of power, but still bending the knee when the king is right on his face. That's what Tywin would call 'low cunning'.
Agree 100%, his pride has pride
Alicent is betrayed by the king and lied by her bestfriend until this episode alicent was the closest ally to her husband and best friend alicent feels like she need to protect her children and play the game
Seriously good for her... after watching her ENDLESSLY defending Rhaenyra for 4 episodes straight no matter what and gaining nothing but miserability... protect your children
I read that the beginning shot in the Vale was filmed in Derbyshire, England
That’s a closed casket funeral for Joff
"Rest now...I'll bring THE LEECHES!" 😂😂😂
@Shannon C. 😂
Joffrey: Sidepieces unite!
Sir Cole: *stares Will Smithishly* I said keep my paramour's name out your f**** mouth!👊🏾
"They call this dance.... the LACK of clapping" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They didn't even clean the blood off the floor man.
"I don't have anything wee little..."
"No, you don't!"
*chokes in happiness*
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4:12 King Viserys was the last rider of the legendary dragon Balerion The Black Dread. Probably the biggest dragon ever was in Westeros.
And targaryens can only bond with one dragon in their lives so once that dragon died he physically can't ride another dragon ever again, unfortunately. So it's not that he just doesn't like dragons and is choosing to not ride... he literally can't bond with one to ride another dragon. But he does seem to have slight distain towards dragons as he did say it was a mistake for humans to have domesticated them in previous episodes.
Someone on twitter said the sidepieces are fighting😭😭
Daemon definitely drinks henny...straight
Love your analysis
The ending montage was my favorite scene of the series so far. Give me the aesthetics of the red hue of the weirdwood tree glowing in twilight, give me the flickering lights, give me the gloomy ambience of a GoT wedding with an equally gloomy soundtrack & it’s A1! The slightly overlooked heartfelt exchange Otto & Alicent had at the beginning was the most significant moment of the episode imo, other than Viserys dropping. Otto is right. You either hope for Rhaenyra’s mercy in the future or you act now. It's the Tywin Jaime "we can establish a dynasty that last a thousand years" moment. The wedding sets up the first chess pieces for Dance of Dragons. *Rhaenyra and Laenor were being told their wedding vows, but it was Alicent and Criston who were getting “married”.*
Since Alicent married into house Targaryen, she's expected to wear the colors of her husbands house, red and black. But instead wore the colors of her family.
Alicent has been a staunch ally to Rhaenyra up until now. She was raised to believe that duty is important. This is why she obeyed her father when he pimped her out to endear herself to the king -- the show displays she's not happy about it (constantly picking at her fingers until they bleed, only responding with "if you wish it" when her father asks her if she will see the king). Westorsi society does not allow noblewomen agency in marriage -- between Otto pressuring her and the king choosing her, Alicent effectively had no option to refuse the marriage.
Despite all this, the only time she rebelled against her father was in fully supporting Rhaenyra. Even when Rhaenyra was angry with her and even after Aegon was born, Alicent still supported Rhaenyra's being named heir to any who questioned it (she told Viserys naming Rhaenyra was a good thing when he expressed doubt, Alicent defended Rhaenyra when Otto pressured her about Aegon taking the thrown, and she did not try to convince Viserys to change the succession even when her father explicitly told her to do so). When Rhaenyra found herself in the rare position of being able to select her own husband, Alicent helped in setting up the tour and organizing suitors for Rhaenyra to choose from. When both the King and her own father believed Rhaenyra had "sullied" herself, Alicent (while upset) still went to Rhaenyra first to get the truth. When Rhaenyra swore upon her mother's memory to lie by omission about being a virgin, Alicent believed her and came to her defense when Viserys doubted Rhaenyra. In this episode, she came to Rhaenyra's defense again when saying goodbye to her father. The same way she believed Rhaenyra was 100% truthful about being a virgin, Alicent also believed Rhaenyra would never endanger her own children.
All this is to say that I don't think it's jealousy that's driving Alicent in this episode. When Alicent learned that Rhaenyra lied to her upon something as sacred as her own dead mother's memory, she felt betrayed and realized that she can no longer trust Rhaenyra. As far as Alicent knows, her father was dismissed as Hand because he reported rumors that questioned Rhaenyra's virtue -- which adds to the betrayal. She realized that her father was right: Rhaenyra lied and cannot be trusted. She also realizes that she can't trust her own children to be safe if Rhaenyra is made queen. I believe it's this sense of betrayal and fear for her children that now drives Alicent.
Really GREAT analysis
Excellent analysis and a pov I never considered.
36:05 words to live by lmao
The wee lil stick and 4:02 something seems fishy about that was enough to make me click subscribe! LMFAO
Rhaenyra did also swear that Daemon didn't touch her, which was obviously not true.
People hate on Alicent too much
Yeah when I heard the woman in the video say such things my heart was broken... I mean she is just a kid whose father is gone now and she's alone... She hasn't done anything wrong YET
@@zawa7497 They act like she was orchestrating a whole rebellion. She has been a tool all along with barely any agency. It’s from when she donned the green dress that we will see her actions being her own
@@zawa7497 MC will decide she doesn’t like certain characters on sight and will reject anything wholesome or smart they say or do, expecting the worse of them. I’ve seen her respond to other characters in that manner (super judgmental and petty) in their reactions to other content. I’m really only here for Syntell because he’s actually funny and thoughtful and not afraid to admit he’s wrong or misjudged a character.
@@itss_nattyjyeah, this woman seriously has it out for Alicent from the start for no apparent reason, it's just one bad take after another from her mouth
27:16 Eh, it's not because Alicent is jealous that Rhaenyra was able to bed a handsome young knight. It's because she believes that one of the reasons why her father was fired as the hand is because she told the king that she believes Rhaenyra is still a virgin, but it turns out that Rhaenyra just straight up lied to her.
I believe your right but I do also believe she is jealous. The contrast the show did in ep 4 with her bedding the king to Rhaenyra’s night out with Daemon and Criston was done purposely.
Rhaenyra has all the freedom in the world to disobey her father. Alicent must always fall in line to hers. Yes she did trust Rhaenyra and Rhaenyra lied to her, but I also think it’s a bit of
“You’re just gonna do what you want while I have to sit locked up in this castle sleeping with an old rotting man. I don’t think so”
@@Ries41794 I think she was jealous of Rhaenyra when they met on tree spot in episode 4. But in this episode, imo even if she was still feeling jealous, it was overshadowed with her father's dismissal, especially as Otto just told her that she knows, but she chose to believe in her friend, but that friend betrayed her trust.
Alicent been showing jealousy since episode 1 when she and Rhaenyra were under the tree talking about her position if Lady Aemma were to have a boy. Alicent is mad bc she has to be locked away having children and Rhaenyra is living a lot freely.
@@iconoclast6555 yes I think on the surface that is what’s fueling this new inner rage from her, however when you start peeling back the layers I think it’s a mixture of her own insecurities and jealousy.
Her father was scheming way before Alicent had children with the king. So him using the whole “Rhaenyra is going to kill your kids” is ridiculous. Why put your daughter in this position in the first place then? He underestimated Rhaenyra’s strength and fathers love/loyalty to her. Alicent knows this. She knows who her father is.
So why is Alicent truly mad then? Because her friend lied to her? Well Alicent lied to Rhaenyra as well, and why does Alicent care so much who Rhaenyra is sleeping with?
Alicent is miserable and unhappy with herself (always being meek and dutiful)
ANd here is Rhaenyra disobeying and still getting freedom and what she wants.
If Alicent was a true friend she would of covered for Rhaenyra maybe even be happy for her to have found love, but she wants Rhaenyra to be confined the way she is.
Just my take on it.
She's jealous too tho. Even before Otto was fired, she was jealous that she got to do what Alicent can't. She's truly jealous of Rhaenyra's life. Don't twist it like Alicent is a saint lmao.
idk when i first watched it, Criston's interaction with the ginger guy was super weird and the whole convo he had with criston felt almost like a threat. I guess this episode just showed how emotionally driven of a character he is and how much shit that can cause lol. I cant wait to see his relationship develop with Alicent though, so much potential. This was probably the best episode for me so far. this and the 4th one.
also Alicent's entry gave me goosebumps, that music was poppin off
Alicent is declaring war.
you talk as tho Alicent has a choice in the whole matter. in fact through out the current episodes, she's been the most decent of a person. so not sure why some are hating on her
I was very hurt I swear
Cuz she's kind of known as the villain of the book. That's why people don't like her. She's not a good person. And the show has been slowly hinting at it and lots of reacters have been picking up on those hints and foreshadowing.
@@AnxietyRat a good person and a villain? You do know that there's no hero in this show right? Rhaenyra and daemon will be ruthless too
@@zawa7497 yes, I know pretty much all characters are grey in this story. I'm fully aware. She is more black than white morally tho, IMO. Also I said NOT a good person... She is a villain and not a good person. 🤷♀️
@@AnxietyRat hmm i guess that makes sense but at least wait until then. from what I can see, anyone in her position would have to inother to survive.
Would you two please move in next door to me so we can all watch Twin Peaks together and lose our minds trying to figure out the puzzles therein? 😂 You're a real breath of fresh air and made me smile.
"Step-daughter, I'm stuck."
Yes! This episode is about watch your mouth. Loose lips sink ships!! Another excellent review!
The King is weak for many reasons but 1. He can't even keep his family in order. His brother turned up after being banished then intimately dancing with his neice at HER WEDDING PARTY. Then his wife calling up banners for war. If he can't keep his family in order, how is he going to keep 6 different releams in order?
Joffrey’s face looked like it had been through a meat grinder. He really shouldn’t have spouted off his mouth to a stranger.
Viserys is the best king we've ever seen in the Game of Thrones universe, his problem is that he's a people pleaser.
But there is no way Robert, Joffery, Cercie etc
Syntell really just straight up said Viserys is weaker than Tommen. I can't.
From the shows shown so far, but the best king the westeros had was Jaehaerys l, coming up second probably would be Aegon the conquerer
@@wtfogers good point, I should have stated that Viserys was the best king we've actually watched in the Game of Thrones universe.
@@GLitiatc0 So far yea, it goes like Viserys (atleast in the show, in the books not so much he was a fat old geezer didn't do shit much but i like the show Viserys one better) > Tommen (good while it lasted) > Robert > Cersie >= Joffrey.
Lmao he was not the best king. All of these problems building up are because of his choices and choosing his daughter to be heir knowing that people won't accept it , add in the fact that given her choices, Rhaenyra isn't going to be a good queen either. Civil war is coming in hot.
I may have it wrong but I thought Robert Baratheon had a note stating his wishes after death and Cersei burned it.
Notice at 25:30 Daemon didn't stand for the queen.
Damn you guys pick up even the smallest details!
The two dragons were Princess Rhaenys (Corlys Velayron's wife) on Meleys the Red Queen and their son Laenor Valayron on Seasmoke.
I would say the king is very weak. He had to go TO Corlys house to ask for his daughter to marry Laenor. He doesn't get respect from anyone. Nobody waiting to greet him is BIG disrespect. Remember Game of Thrones E1 when Robert rolled up to Winterfell? HUGE greeting party with everybody all lined up to welcome the king.
I feel like the hate for Alicent is a bit much atleast in my opinion I agree she isn’t a perfect character but like y’all praise Damon saying he’s bold in spite of all the shitty things he did but designate alicent as the “cunning” women inspire her support rhaenyra and stood up to her in front of the king
I think it’s because daemon aint really actually planning on getting rid of anyone just building the family name as of now, and he is very open with what he does in a way.
Alicent is actually planning and will be secretly spiteful, as well as betraying and manipulating which feels worse since you expect it from daemon but she was meant to be a friend
@@LS13. he killed his wife just because he wanted to remarry and inherit HER possessions...
@@marti9734 nah, he killed his wife because he wants to marry someone he loves. But again that shows nothing in regards to the convo at hand. It’s about people hating alicent more- and like I said it was expected from him, Alicent was meant to be better and a friend and it hurts worse from her side of things. Being openly rude is better than being slyly a snake
First time watching and the fishy joke made me laugh. Refreshing to see and hear you two enjoy the show, and like most viewers from the perspective of not having read fire & blood. I have not, but I have read parts of the world of ice and fire so I know some of the things to come. But I look forward to some surprises. Thank you for the content and entertainment. 👏🏾
Weddings are not good for your physical or mental health in the world of GoT! Dammit, wanted to see more of Daemon's wife!
The old wife or the new?
@@AzkuulaKtaktu The one he murdered at the start of the episode.
@@AzkuulaKtaktu He only has one wife (at this point). The white worm woman was his girlfriend.
Spoilers for next episode
I think Corless won the negotiation. If the grandchildren grow up being Valaryans, will they really change their name to Targarian after their Targarian grandfather is dead?
Right now Alicent is like 19/20 in the show I think. She's choosing her own children over the dangers that Rhaenyra and Daemon will potentially bring into her life. In the book neither Rhaenyra or Alicent are good people per say, I really like how the show is handling everything.
13:00 homosexuality is frowned on in Westeros, but it’s not actively oppressed either. It’s not something you’d get executed for. It’s loosely the same level as adultery: the clergy says people aren’t supposed to do it, but they still do - people just don’t talk about it in public.
I think too much hate for Alicent is derived from moves thrust upon her by her father. Especially considering women in this time had little to no agency. That’s the dynamic I see between R and A, they are both victims of this hyper-patriarchal system and are navigating it their own ways (which the other low key detests). Alicent marrying the king was not what I would consider a choice. When she finally really stood on her own and basically in opposition of Otto, she found out she was lied to by her “friend”. I expect Alicent to actually become hate-able b4 the season wrap, but as of now she’s not any less sympathetic than Rhaenyra.
people kept hyping up daemon but his logic will result in a ruined kingdom: 1. targaryeans do anything they want because they have dragons. 2. he wants to marry rhaenyra for the crown and he even verbalised about wanting to usurp his brother as a king. 3. he sees a king as someone who been through a war. 4. he's impulsive. 5. he can't even rule for more than a year before he got bored in the narrow sea.
none of the above will result in him being a good king. he's sitting in the passenger seat just making comments about how the king should drive. he never once displayed ANY signs of being a good king. Westeros is prosperous now without any war...with daemon, there will be war after war.
also if anyone notice: daemon has been TRYING to claim the throne for YEARS and all his plotting resulted in nothing. that speaks volume about his incompetency, and the writing shows. but people just choose not to see it.
Alicent's entrance itself is extremely disrespectful even though she doesn't say anything. As Viserys' wife and queen, she was supposed to enter at his side, wearing Targaryen colors (since it's an official occasion); but she wore the colors of her own family (green for Hightower).
The King is not dead.... yet
I thought the theme was disrespect because everybody felt disrespected....
13:00 called it
why is the man defending ser criston? Criston thinks of himself as one of the good and honorable guys but he is not a good person, he broke his vow at the first ounce of temptation, then he had decency to ask for rhaenyra's hand so he stops feeling shitty about himself, kills a nobleman at the wedding where the king is present and gets away with it. what you mean watch your mouth? he literally killed a man and you're all about watch your mouth? tf.
The lady has much better insight on all of this
Yo chill man, people can can different opinions. It's true that Rhaenyra used Criston and he's hurt and wounded. It was very wrong of him to do what he did but he just got played. He is not daemon or any powerful man who has other possessions. Remember Jaimie? A knight's biggest possession is his honour and he broke his oath because the princess wanted him to and he wanted do so too. You can hate him and understand where he is coming from at the same time.
@@zawa7497 rhaenyra did not use him, it sucks you see that way. criston wanted her as much she wanted him and he could've said no, but he didnt. rhaenyra showed no force or threaten him in any way, he broke his vow because he couldnt resist the temptation and that is on him, not to mention rhaenyra was a lot younger than him. he let his feelings win and killed a man that didnt deserve it. he's a dramatic incel and he will do worse things in the future, just wait and see. oh and don't tell me to chill i wasnt being aggressive or anything i have every right to comment my opinion.
Well ser criston is well and a good man. But Rhaneyra is responsible for his breakdown. She is responsible for breaking of his vows. So he wants to leave this kingsguard post as he break the vow. And just imagine if someone use u just for having s x. And marrying some other person. Christon Cole come from a small house means this post is very precious to him. But Rhaneyra just destroy him as a person and break his heart.
@@Noone91875 he is definitely not a good man, he's one of these ‘nice guy syndrome’ dudes. if his post is very precious to him he should have resisted being horny and not sleep with the princess. stop blaming rhaenyra for his breakdown, he's a grown ass man he should have known better instead he acts like a bitch with hurt feelings. dude slept with her once and acts like they're in love.
@@hopeaway9485 wow rude much, anyways I don't get how you couldn't see it. Rhaenyra is the princess and the heir,he definitely wanted it but it she had power over him. And yess she did use him as a way to get back at her uncle who left her without doing much.
If being Viserys' Queen and the mother of his sons is so dangerous, why did Otto push so hard for Alicent to be in that position, much less for those grandchildren to be born into it? He could have arranged a good marriage for her, a discrete word to the king a year after Aemma's death and Viserys would have been glad to help find someone who was decent, fairly wealthy, politically appropriate, etc, and not too old (and maybe even attractive).
Something seems “fishy” about that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Its crispy cream😅😅
A long time has passed, she also has a new baby, and we had a red dragon Meleys. Alicent was talking about Daemon, cole messed up.
Otto is a damn fool let’s not forget he FORCED his daughter into that situation for his own gain and now telling her she has to continue down this path which his grandson being on the throne he’s infected his family and he’s responsible for his daughter entering her villain era
He didn't force her. He did however set it up by asking her to continue her meetings with Viserys and suggesting she dress up nicely. This was manipulative, since she wasn't really aware of what this could lead to at the time, whereas he of course was, but he didn't force her to do anything.
That being said, I would still say his scheming was indeed responsible for putting her into the situation. He could just as well have kept her out of it and supported the decision for Viserys to marry Laena. He wouldn't have had a chance for his own blood on the throne that way, but this would have been the by far best decision for the stability of the realm, which Oldtown and House Hightower benefits greatly from. His own ambition has not only put his daughter in danger, but also put his house in a precarious situation; they're trying to signal strength now, but they know that they don't have the same military strength or prowess as most other houses, having opted to stay out of wars as much as possible (since their house and the city they are based in both rely primarily on trade and knowledge, hence why Otto would have done better to leave his perceived opportunity be and simply focused on keeping the realm stable).
Joffrey and wedding should never belong in one event.
Battle of the side pieces
Daemon enters disrespectfully: so badass.
Alicent enters disrespectfully: evil witch
Might not be giving Alicent's POV a fair shake. 🤷
The king has leprosy
the Sea Snake in case no one else commented
Another wedding, another Jeoffrey. And what if Cole started hitting him as a distraction from Daemon and Rheanyra getting close?
the King is not death 🙃
Ser Criston was a spiritual man who broke his vows and broke something deep inside of him, more so than Jon Snow breaking his vows. At least Snow knew of the White Walkers and could cling to that to keep going forward. Criston clung to the hope of "making an honest woman" out of Rhaenyra, but she all but laughed in his face. And to top it off, not only did he find out the Queen knew (he was so in his feelings he never realized she didn't know until he confessed) but here a total stranger could figure it out. The Queen he could maybe trust to keep it a secret but this new guy he never met before? That was the final straw.
To paraphrase Fiona Apple, Rhaenyra's been a bad bad girl / She was reckless with a delicate man / And it's a sad, sad world / When a girl can break a boy just because she can. 🎵🎵🎵😱😭🤣 th-cam.com/video/FFOzayDpWoI/w-d-xo.html
I do NOT trust the new hand! He's lowkey pulling the strings intertwining his son's into making sure Rhaenyra does not succeed Viserys in becoming Queen. Remember, he was also against Rhaenyra being named the heir to the Iron Throne.
yup! people forget, everyone has an angle no matter what they say. saying is one thing. actions is another.
Poor Lyonel. Just out here doing his job properly since ep1.
I trust Lyonel. His sons on the other hand...
Viserys isn’t dead yet
DaeMON daeMON guys not DaMIen....totally different names
“Is she in black?” Oh if only she was….
Remembering that the book fire and blood is narrated by dubious narrators The book is told by rumors and gossip so it is not reliable, in the book it says that Daemon never likes his wife he hates her the daemon was forced to marry his wife she it is not important in the story In the book there is nothing about her just that she is married to Daemon and that after a while the news comes from her that she died and that she died falling from the horse that is all that is said about the daemon's wife in the Book
As I said,Daemon's wife is not important in the story,no one cares about her and the only thing to watch in the scenes when she talks about Daemon's wife is when Rhaenys says that Daemon's wife died,no one paid attention to the news she said That's because she's not important, in the books we don't know if it was the daemon who killed his wife because when she dies the daemon is in a war so we don't know if it was him, in the series they said it was the Daemon who killed his wife the daemon is not killing his wife because she had already lost the movement of her body So much so that he was leaving but the girl was very stupid she opened her mouth so he killed her, the scriptwriters are Ryan they said they said that Daemon is not the kill his wife if she didn't open her mouth, more like She opened her mouth so he'll kill her
Being a Christian, if you soiled your white command, it was because you wanted to, because Rhaenyra didn't stick a knife in your neck and force you to do what you did, do you really think that, Rhaenyra? And give up everything just to be with him, my God, this girl is a princess she is heir to the throne she has her customs she is not one to give up everything to have a simple life, Rhaenyra is not in love with Christian she just wants to have fun she just wants sex that's all Christian you are very emotional you are very deluded you and stupid rhaenyra would never give up everything for you Christian you and only a knight have nothing to offer her
🙄🙄🙄🙄 Daemon Daemon Daemon!!! I have no doubt the Vale is gonna be on the side of The Greens in season 2. The reason Daemon didn't want his first wife is because she was a descendant of the first men not of old Valyria
Nah I love Alicent, shes the only innocent person around. Rhaenyra has brought trouble onto everyone. Otto might have seemed scheming, but he never actually did anything bad for the realm, it all just happend to be good for him aswell. I'm siding with the greens on this one, and with Daemon because hes cool, but Rhaenyra has fucked everyone up for selfish reasons.
So right now I'm liking Alicent, Otto, Daemon, and House Strong, the new hand of the king is cool and his sons seem to be very useful while not having bad intentions.
The jealousy angle you guys are looking at Alicent from is completely wrong if you ask me. If that was the case and she just wanted to ruin it for Rhaenyra then she could have just avoided backing her up on her virginity claim. Viserys would have had to believe Otto eventually and Rhaenyra would have been in deep shit, but Alicent backed her up because she was coping, hoping that Rhaenyra didn't throw away everything she and the king worked for. They're all doing their duty regardless of how hard it is but Rhaenyra just throws it all away for selfish reasons, thats where the tension is coming from, not any sort of jealousy from Alicent, that doesn't make sense.
And the threat to her children on top of what obviously sours the situation even more. She was blissfully okay with the idea that her kids wouldn't be kings until she got the reality check that people will go to war to have the kings first born son on the throne. If a single one of them grows up and expresses ambitions for the throne then it would 100% mean that Rhaenyra has to kill him to maintain the claim, and Rhaenyra has been shown to be selfish enough to do that.
Remember how she said she liked the guy who kept harassing the lil boy during the matchmaking scene? And how she constantly keeps lying to save face? While also expecting people to fall in line with her selfish desires? Thats where all the problems come from, not Alicent.
Thankyou very much!! Love this comment. I mean you are watching HotD not some teenage show. Everybody is going to do vile and disgusting things and there's no whose that's only good in the show. It was a complete turn off for me from the lady. You could understand everybody at the same time it's not that hard
Of all the crap Sansa went through at least she didn’t birth any babies for her crazy husbands
King not dead yet
The hate for Allicent, like several comments before me, is way too undeserved. This is a turning point for her and she will be easy to hate going forward but up to this point she did nothing to warrant being hated. How hard is it to understand that Criston’s honour is the only thing that gave him value and if he broke this than he feels he is no more than a peasant or commoner. As he says, that’s the only thing to his name. Without that he’s nothing. You’re not supposed to be part of the Kings guard or whatever if you broke your oath of chastity and Rhaenyra unknowingly broke him by putting him into a position where he felt like he couldn’t refuse her bc she’s the princess. If he said no, she could easily just flip the script and order his death or some worse consequences involving him getting tortured like he said to Allicent. Joffrey was making a subtle threat to Criston to not tell anyone and provoked him but he didn’t know that Criston wasn’t ok with it like he was and was struggling internally with his morals and felt like he was betraying himself, his name, and everyone by continuing to serve as a knight so if Criston took him out, then all would be cleared anyway since he intended to off himself and there wouldn’t be any consequences for either of them if anyone else found out about their lovers. Also Allicent married out of duty, she wasn’t head over heels for Viserys and hoping everything would be “peachy keen from here on out” with Rhaenyra. Newsflash, women, especially younger women, don’t have much say in their own marital affairs and choices in their life in this time. Also… Viserys is literally dying and y’all are just calling him lazy and tired… he’s sick, obviously he’s not going to be functioning well. And it’s been decades since he rode a dragon. He’s not a fighter, so again obviously, he’s not used to motion sickness and surely would not be used to riding dragons since he hasn’t done it in ages.
I feel the same way about Alicent. Mikel Claire you have been spot on with your comments regarding this episode.
No, she hasn’t.
RhaenyrA guys RharnyrA NOT RhaenyraS what's wit all the extra "s"s ? 😂
Rhaenys the beyonce that never was 😂😂😂😂
the pattern of people supporting, justifying or empathising with criston's actions is mortifying. Never mind murder, if someone snaps and resorts to any kind of violence, it's 100% on them. what a cowardly thing to do!
Im pretty sure Allicent was in love with Renearha
I can't believe no one else is talking about this!
Syntell really fanboying on Daemon lol. Swag and dragon doesn't really solve everything though. Can't wait for him to find out if Daemon will be successful in his plan to get the Eyrie.
yup, he's all swag and no substance to back it up. he's been trying for years to get the throne and never worked.
@@endor8witch are you stupid? He literally does everything and gets it at the end. There's no easy route for him that's why he doesn't get it himself. Don't be naive. His sons and grandsons are future monarch, his blood.
She took the tea. She has no reason not to. Criston Cole never had any honor. He's one of the worse people in the books right up there with Otto
Y’all gotta go a little easier on Alicent. She was basically pimped out by her father to a 40+ year old man at the age of 15-16. She had no real choices and now she has to deal with the consequences of what other people decided should happen for her life. Rhaenyra and Daemon are literally carrying on in public at her own engagement ceremony. Everyone knows Daemon is pretty much a murderer (his wife) after this wedding. How is she supposed to trust someone who’s choosing to be so close to him, especially after what her father said to her?
Ser Cristen Cole is a Knight.. Part of a Knight oath is to tell truth even if it leads to their death.
👎 Alicent is not jealous. If you are paying attention and not just hatin, she was lied to by Rhaenyra who Alicent fought for and believed that got her father Otto fired as a hand. Last episode she defended Rhaenyra's virtue to the king. She felt betrayed by Rhaenyra's lie. You hatin so much on Alicent thinking she is poisoning the king but her character was portrayed as someone who obeys and performs her duties from the very beginning. You never mentioned any negativity about Rhaenyra betraying her father and the Velaryon family by asking her uncle to run with her. 👎Disliking this video because of the hate on Alicent's character without checking what made her upset and what she has been doing with her duty to her father and as a wife to the king while Rhaenyra messes up and brings headaches to the king. "Alicent going to use Criston as a pawn for her evil plan" Lady Reactor has a bias hate. Alicent saw the honesty and loyalty of Criston to his calling as a Knight and she relates to him as they both are performing their duties with honesty and decency.
HE IS NOT DEAD YET
imo that wasn’t a smart move, rheanyra wasnt going to kill her kids. shes just mad that she wasnt told the whole truth and her dad got fired