I somewhat "simulated" this once with modern equipment when I was younger. My local TV aired reruns of popular movies back then, and this one time they had Transformers on, which I liked. In my infinite wisdom I recorded the show playing using a camcorder propped in front of the screen. I had CRT TVs back then so the qualities kind of suck, but it worked good enough for me. There's this scene that I liked (the first attack at the US base) that I wanted to show my friends at school. However, I knew jack about trimming or editing videos, so I grabbed my mom's phone and pointed it at the camcorders rather tiny screen playing the scene. Great! Now I can watch that part over and over again without having to fast forward through the full movie. Went to school and showed that scene to my friends. They wanted it too, but not knowing how to share it (like I'd know what Bluetooth is) so they huddled around my mom's phone and recorded it on theirs. Now everyone had the footage. Finally, one of them said that the video would look better if played on his laptop. Lacking cables that we could use to transfer the files, we pointed the built in webcam at one of their phones and got it into the laptop. The final footage as expected was an ABSOLUTE mush. It was nothing but blurry pixels with infinite mirror effect and weird static noise all around. After all, the footage was taken with a low res webcam recording a low res phone screen, that was recorded from another tiny phone screen, which was recorded from a camcorder screen that really was meant for previewing, and was taken from a TV quality broadcast played on a CRT TV. That was probably my first introduction to "generation loss"
Thankfully by the time I was a kid, CDs, DVDs and Blu-Ray were the standard for recording anything and everything audio and video based. I think the VHS system with the complete haemorrhage of quality between re-recordings would have driven me nuts. I think I could tolerate up to gen 3. the colour banding on anything more than that would drive me insane.
Surprisingly reencoding degradation doesn't drive you insane. YT is notorius for ruining videos with it's encoding settings, especially on SD resolutions for one.
The last time I ever watched a VHS it was Toy Story 1 around 2015. We had an old TV in storage with an inbuilt VHS player and inserted it, only to get what looked to be generation 5 loss and a constant frequency like in the video. I feel 2nd-hand nostalgia towards this dying technology, it makes me want to go back and experience it firsthand.
Brief research shows me it's remnance decay 100%. I had a Tarzan VHS as well, and that didn't fare much better as Toy Story 1 as it lost all audio over time. Looking up VHS player faults, it seems problems are usually more common with the VHS tapes themselves vs the VHS player. Edit: dust may have dirtied the head and drive mechanism of the VCR, however even if this was true dust problems don't tend to create sound distortions, which were present in both VHS tapes I played. Additionally, I may recall inserting a Teletubbies tape into the VCR that showed nothing but a black screen, so there's also that.
A majority of the tapes I have are in the 1-3 section of generation loss. With a few being around 4-5, I notice the picture quality is usually worse on EP speed recordings than on SP speed recordings.
"Generation loss is the loss of quality between subsequent copies or transcodes of data. Anything that reduces the quality of the representation when copying, and would cause further reduction in quality on making a copy of the copy, can be considered a form of generation loss." Re-records restarts the life cycle of a VHS, however multiple re-records result in declined quality over the years, for any new version carries any loss to audio/picture quality visible to early versions.
Hey, awesome visuals you got, really interesting experiment! Which capture device did you use? I use EasyCap, but most of the images i get are unstable and blank.
This some great analog horror. Imagine a scene where a character watched a tape of scientist performing some experiments and going progressively insane after finding something paranormal, as the tape itself slowly starts to corrupt
Gen1:Normal Gen2:Still Normal Gen3:Just Tape Video Gen4:Color is Falling Gen5:OMG Pooly2533 Version Gen6:i Think Color is Gone Gen7:90s Horror Tape Gen8:80s Horror Tape Gen9:😑😑😑😑 Gen10:Yes Thai Tape Video in Prayut Era is Now a 80s Horror Tape At The Same
Imagine if some guy made a show based off this that was centered around people being kidnapped with barely any memory of their past life and they were forced to compete in a show of some sorts that is slowly revealed to be dark as people get eliminated (killed) sometimes and it seems like the mc beat the big bad ceo of the show company thingy but turns out they get kidnapped then theyre voted to either live and continue through this torturous cycle of show and show or die and escape with death and then theyre voted to die
i copied from a master copy tiny tape to a large regular and the quality went from gen one to gen 3 quality but the audio was still intact, i think gen loss is accelerated when copying from a tiny chrome tape to a large regular tape
I don't really know. Probably because I recorded the 5th generation at a random moment where the footage looks jacked up. Either that or it's because of my capture card acting up.
generation loss happens when you record vhs tapes over each other, usually with the same video. It makes the recording go all glitchy and the audio turn creepy. That's why ananlog horror youtubers often use it. Assuming you're here because of ranboo, he basically got the name from learning about this concept and going 'huh, I want to make a horror project about that' :)
@@spacey4828 Ohhh okay! Sounds very interesting! :] Also yeah I am here because of Ranboo Probably recommended the video to me because it had "Generation loss" in it.
VHS generation loss doesn't look that bad. Your sample is mostly a statement about how bad your VCRs are, not VHS itself. Good VCRs, especially S-VHS decks with TBCs (JVCs, Panasonics), would probably look better at a 10th gen than your 2nd gen.
@@corwin.macleod Certain vhs-decode devs are not being "trolled". Some of them make hyperbolic unfounded claims, and create cherry-picked "comparison" videos. And I highly respect one of the project devs, as he doesn't BS people about the reality, the status quo, and limitations of the project.
yah, a time base corrector would keep it all stabe....we would then see dedregation from signal loss from the generations until picture would be unobservable....but stable video frames.....
if any of you want to watch more generation loss type videos, heres a longer video with more generations th-cam.com/video/G8GOcB6H0uQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wAECcaGq5Lm71BOW
I somewhat "simulated" this once with modern equipment when I was younger.
My local TV aired reruns of popular movies back then, and this one time they had Transformers on, which I liked. In my infinite wisdom I recorded the show playing using a camcorder propped in front of the screen. I had CRT TVs back then so the qualities kind of suck, but it worked good enough for me.
There's this scene that I liked (the first attack at the US base) that I wanted to show my friends at school. However, I knew jack about trimming or editing videos, so I grabbed my mom's phone and pointed it at the camcorders rather tiny screen playing the scene. Great! Now I can watch that part over and over again without having to fast forward through the full movie.
Went to school and showed that scene to my friends. They wanted it too, but not knowing how to share it (like I'd know what Bluetooth is) so they huddled around my mom's phone and recorded it on theirs. Now everyone had the footage.
Finally, one of them said that the video would look better if played on his laptop. Lacking cables that we could use to transfer the files, we pointed the built in webcam at one of their phones and got it into the laptop.
The final footage as expected was an ABSOLUTE mush. It was nothing but blurry pixels with infinite mirror effect and weird static noise all around. After all, the footage was taken with a low res webcam recording a low res phone screen, that was recorded from another tiny phone screen, which was recorded from a camcorder screen that really was meant for previewing, and was taken from a TV quality broadcast played on a CRT TV. That was probably my first introduction to "generation loss"
Part 2
th-cam.com/video/j1YWCvZ72ww/w-d-xo.html
I die laughing as I read
Wow interesting
@@a-dv7uyYOU SUCK. This link has nothing, NOTHING to do with the story. These kinds of bots should cease to exist.
Please post all the versions next to eachother or atleast the final variant I wanna see it in action
It sounds so creepy at the end
It really does sound creepy...
*Looks
@@gamergod3687 *Sounds
*smells
*turns around*
Thankfully by the time I was a kid, CDs, DVDs and Blu-Ray were the standard for recording anything and everything audio and video based.
I think the VHS system with the complete haemorrhage of quality between re-recordings would have driven me nuts. I think I could tolerate up to gen 3. the colour banding on anything more than that would drive me insane.
Surprisingly reencoding degradation doesn't drive you insane. YT is notorius for ruining videos with it's encoding settings, especially on SD resolutions for one.
You had DVDs when you were a kid? Ok grandpa time to get back to the nursing home
If generation loss would drive you insane then don’t make copies of copies of copies.
Part 2
th-cam.com/video/y0slg_cogpk/w-d-xo.html
@@a-dv7uybait for video promotion
analog horror youtubers be like
LMAO
Analogging my horrors
Digitalling my horrors
fr
No more TV for you,
How will you survive?
Part 2
th-cam.com/video/EglBGWZp67I/w-d-xo.html
Generations 3 and 4 are pretty nostalgic, extremely saturated colors and shaky static-like image.
Generation 10 is pretty nostalgic for me, being a 1720’s kid
@@bray4883 i know its a joke but.. where do exists vhs in 1700s?
@@bray4883 do you even exist in 1720 (joke and no r whoosh me)
same effect with weak analog tv
Weak, I'm a 1500s kid, back we had were books and my slave named Bob. Good times.
This has been the most unsettling 20 seconds of my entire day
i agree
ew
@@kaistemino 🤨
The last time I ever watched a VHS it was Toy Story 1 around 2015. We had an old TV in storage with an inbuilt VHS player and inserted it, only to get what looked to be generation 5 loss and a constant frequency like in the video. I feel 2nd-hand nostalgia towards this dying technology, it makes me want to go back and experience it firsthand.
could've been a deteriorated tape or the vhs player being defective
Brief research shows me it's remnance decay 100%. I had a Tarzan VHS as well, and that didn't fare much better as Toy Story 1 as it lost all audio over time. Looking up VHS player faults, it seems problems are usually more common with the VHS tapes themselves vs the VHS player.
Edit: dust may have dirtied the head and drive mechanism of the VCR, however even if this was true dust problems don't tend to create sound distortions, which were present in both VHS tapes I played. Additionally, I may recall inserting a Teletubbies tape into the VCR that showed nothing but a black screen, so there's also that.
It felt ominous. The endless tone. Increasing in volume intensity decibel by decibel. It's just shy away from going into full darkness
As a person who grew up when vhs was out dated and replaced with modern cable, I find this progressively horrific and terrifying
Part 2
th-cam.com/video/wzyyTzf-rrs/w-d-xo.html
Replaced by cable? O_o can't say I remember that
Bot@@a-dv7uy
Just the generations getting from 0 to 10, the odd sound seems to get louder, as the screen gets D A R K.
Well that went from 0 to Creepypasta real quick
0:10 about the quality most teenage boys saw their first adult movie
WHAT
“joined 15 years ago” comment checks out. for your generation, yes but not the latest 3 generations
lol@@LiterallyAllNamesAreTaken
A majority of the tapes I have are in the 1-3 section of generation loss. With a few being around 4-5, I notice the picture quality is usually worse on EP speed recordings than on SP speed recordings.
How would you know what generation of rerecording yours is in. It's certainly not just the picture quality
@@constantk8780 Is generation loss the tape degrading in quality
"Generation loss is the loss of quality between subsequent copies or transcodes of data. Anything that reduces the quality of the representation when copying, and would cause further reduction in quality on making a copy of the copy, can be considered a form of generation loss."
Re-records restarts the life cycle of a VHS, however multiple re-records result in declined quality over the years, for any new version carries any loss to audio/picture quality visible to early versions.
I love and appreciate how Ranboo’s Generation Loss has caused TH-cam to recommend me videos like this lol
This would work well at the very end of a creepy movie about the extermination of the human race by aliens.
Generation 11 opens a portal to hell
Hey, awesome visuals you got, really interesting experiment! Which capture device did you use? I use EasyCap, but most of the images i get are unstable and blank.
My device is somewhat similar to the one you've mentioned, except I guess most of the image go blank if the tape or signal is too fucked up.
@@InstertNameHereYTP it looks like a cheap av to hdmi converter as mine has the same wavy line at the top on the later generations
My school confidence going down hill (2021, Colorized)
Man i really love to have that VHS thingy starting from generation 5 to 10
HOW CAN YOU LOVE THAT
Man's living in his own analog horror
This is the most disturbing thing I saw on TH-cam.
This some great analog horror. Imagine a scene where a character watched a tape of scientist performing some experiments and going progressively insane after finding something paranormal, as the tape itself slowly starts to corrupt
How old are you? Twelve?
@@3c3c3cthis conversation can become something very illegal
@@3c3c3chow old are you? Eleven?
@@Mydumbselfsays oh, a pepe pfp...
WOW SO SCARY DOOD! TOTALLY ORIGINAL AND NOT SOME CREEPYPASTA THAT HAS BEEN OVERDONE
RIP to those who took to achieving the VHS route.
when you start to loose memory of your childhood
This is strangely eerie
Average youtube video doccumentary intro
I think i watch too much generation loss (the show)
Thats probably why this popped into my reccomended
Fun Fact: Betamax has been Released in 1975.
Agree
Get it beta
I’d love to do this one day. I have the stuff, just not the time.
did you do it?
@@NoVIcE_Source yea, it was only 3 generations though
unfortunately don't have the stuff anymore to do it again :/
@@mrdoognoog oh interesting. Also I didn't expect a response. That's cool :D
@@mrdoognoog oh that sucks
i just found out that if you press the number keys you can skip to any generation you want.
Help, I can't skip to the 0th generation!
@@ChloekabanOfficialyou tried to make your vhs dvd quality huh
@@SuperSmashBrosFan64 lol
@@SuperSmashBrosFan64 so you have chosen DEATH
I half expected a jumpscare at the 10th Generation lol
i realized that those color bars on the top is white to black shading in greyscale
Grow up we never went beyond gen 3 when recording. So all these look really cool.. then I opened the comment section and now I feel ancient.
Generation Loss 3-4, 6-7 are just what film workprints look like
POV: When you nudge my Wii's AV cable a tinybit
Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today.
Analog horror TH-camrs are gonna use this
generation 5 sounds like the video is suffering and wants help
Gen1:Normal
Gen2:Still Normal
Gen3:Just Tape Video
Gen4:Color is Falling
Gen5:OMG Pooly2533 Version
Gen6:i Think Color is Gone
Gen7:90s Horror Tape
Gen8:80s Horror Tape
Gen9:😑😑😑😑
Gen10:Yes Thai Tape Video in Prayut Era is Now a 80s Horror Tape At The Same
what the fuck is a pooly2533
Dates: 1984-2018
Imagine if some guy made a show based off this that was centered around people being kidnapped with barely any memory of their past life and they were forced to compete in a show of some sorts that is slowly revealed to be dark as people get eliminated (killed) sometimes and it seems like the mc beat the big bad ceo of the show company thingy but turns out they get kidnapped then theyre voted to either live and continue through this torturous cycle of show and show or die and escape with death and then theyre voted to die
Hmm, that sounds familiar 🤔 🙃
What
@@WinxAliNelCieloa fictional story
The generation 3 looks like the typical pirate vhs
i copied from a master copy tiny tape to a large regular and the quality went from gen one to gen 3 quality but the audio was still intact,
i think gen loss is accelerated when copying from a tiny chrome tape to a large regular tape
Why did i remember everywhere at the end of time
Analogue horror has ruined VHS tapes for me. What would be something cool and retro now just makes me anxious for a jumpscare
Damn, how did you get access to the next few seasons of Genloss
Man, Gen 7-10 feels like analog horror
we got a 10 year old in chat
@@ortherner shut up
@@orthernerwe got an asshole in the chat
So liminal...
good thing an 11th generation wasnt added, lord knows what kind of quality it would be
yet you listen anyways.
Actual footage of my mind shutting down.
Better Call Saul intros over the seasons:
Better call saul finale
0:18 Sound like cursed motorcycle
Why is generation 6 more stable than the previous one
I don't really know. Probably because I recorded the 5th generation at a random moment where the footage looks jacked up. Either that or it's because of my capture card acting up.
every analog horror video ending:
Would be cool to have this as an analog horror
Holy shit that’s what that image is for. Never really realized
I love thre concept of generation loss
my mental state in a nuttshell
Generation loss?
Two years ago?
What??????????
generation loss happens when you record vhs tapes over each other, usually with the same video. It makes the recording go all glitchy and the audio turn creepy. That's why ananlog horror youtubers often use it. Assuming you're here because of ranboo, he basically got the name from learning about this concept and going 'huh, I want to make a horror project about that' :)
@@spacey4828 Ohhh okay! Sounds very interesting! :]
Also yeah I am here because of Ranboo
Probably recommended the video to me because it had "Generation loss" in it.
@@fanofalmosteverything4658 that's probably why it was recommended to me as well :)
its kinda funny how the younger people or those who just didnt grow up with vcrs find this scary i never felt that
Please rename this to "Everywhere At The End Of Time In 20 Seconds."
you mean: natmos
no, stupid and cringe
@@chainsawteddybear Woah, calm down there edgelord. You might hurt someone!
@@val7983 you know he's right ._.
@@JustJaidenism yeah, but anyone who uses “cringe” unironically is more cringe tbh
Generation 4 is already old as humanity can go
VHS generation loss doesn't look that bad. Your sample is mostly a statement about how bad your VCRs are, not VHS itself. Good VCRs, especially S-VHS decks with TBCs (JVCs, Panasonics), would probably look better at a 10th gen than your 2nd gen.
Wow, didn't expect to see you in youtube comment section. By the way, stop trolling the VHS decode guys, it just looks pathetic.
@@corwin.macleod Certain vhs-decode devs are not being "trolled". Some of them make hyperbolic unfounded claims, and create cherry-picked "comparison" videos. And I highly respect one of the project devs, as he doesn't BS people about the reality, the status quo, and limitations of the project.
yah, a time base corrector would keep it all stabe....we would then see dedregation from signal loss from the generations until picture would be unobservable....but stable video frames.....
thanks
I was almost expecting a jumpscare at the end.
Oh, my God!!!
so this is how they make scary sound effects for horror games
these bars are dancing very good
I dont now why when i watch this kinda videos there scary
If you play the video at 1.75x it sounds like the sound that plays when you die in half life 2
generation 9 is the on sight visualizer
Cool! Can you make a greenscreen background with the video?
Could use Generation Loss for something like a local58 video
It’s like dementia for TVs
Why youtube is recommending me VHS loss from the past few days?
0:10 🎃🎃🎃🎃
0:18 is …
Who else were very young when home movies still came out on VHS?
WOW! this is SO analog horror!!
this would make for a good analog horror ambience
It's called digital decay. Happens most often to magnetically-stored media. It's sad really but it happens to all things eventually
Generation 10 is my VCR when i leave it for 2 seconds
How do you do this??? I'm working on a project, and this would be amazing if I could use this to my advantage, I just don't know how.
There are various tutorials on how to do this stuff, though I think this is the best one so far th-cam.com/video/r9gzl2JvO9E/w-d-xo.html
vhs generation loss looks like: vhs evolution reverse
Didn't know better call saul had 10 seasons
TH-cam : can compress at 15-25 remixes
Better call Saul intros be like:
Bros just programming a bank security camera 💀💀💀
Ive seen gen 5 before in old commercials for stuff.
Oh I rlly don't like the sound that's terrifying
Also, generation loss? Heh- heh- 🖤🤍
LMAO I GET IT
I knew one of these comments would show up let’s goooooo
This Is what actually happens In analog horror
The other generation loss...
Analog horror go brrrrrr
0:12 the effect you use for your analog horror series
A burning memory
does anybody know what the background image is called, its used everywhere but does it have a term?
if any of you want to watch more generation loss type videos, heres a longer video with more generations
th-cam.com/video/G8GOcB6H0uQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wAECcaGq5Lm71BOW
My mother brought gen 7 for my childhood
MY FAVORITE SHOW GETS DESTROYED
Yes, I moved FURTHER from my WALL.
Not really true. It wasn't that bad. 10th copy usually looks better than your gen3.