@@frogshroom5961 true, but we are talking likely thousands of years. If nothing else, he’s seen more than enough to justify resentment and mistrust of others
Thranduil is definitely not to be underestimated he is powerful he’s the only elf lord without a ring of power his fighting skills and knowledge are top tier
@@merriscurry7004 nope the 3rd ring is actually owned by another elves Cirdan who is the guardian but not king of the kingdom of Lindon in the west (where the fellowhship take boat and say to Valinor) but Cirdan let the ring to none other than Gandalf teh grey the ring of fire
@@targonyt7258 Celebrimbor made them, but he gave 2 elven ring to Lindon where they were taken by Gil Galad then Cirdan and ELrond and he gave one to the lady of the forest of Lorien Galadriel
Thranduil has fought against sauron's forces in the battle of the first alliance and also during the battle of the pallenor fields sauron had also sent his forces to mirkwood where thranduil again led his people and in the battle of five armies he was leading the elves against the orcs.he also battled the serpents of the north. So, Thranduil's battle exp> elrond's exp I think
Actually Thranduil's father, Oropher, had fought in the Battle of the First Alliance. And in The Hobbit (the book) he actually never fought in the war.. neither did Bilbo and Gandalf. So, actually, Elrond has more experience and he wins, having fought in the War of the Last Alliance as Gil-Galad's herald, and long before he and his brother would be raised by Maedhros and Maglor, gaining a lot of knowledge.
Not entirely. During the fall of eragion and the war between elves and Sauron, and the last alliance, Elrond was at all of these battles and the second in command to the high king of the Noldor. Elrond is. Noldor elf unlike Thranduil who is either Sindarin, or Silvin elf. (I forget at Times) either way, the Noldor are some of the strongest elves, having seen the light of the Amon, and the trees of valenor they are stronger, faster, wiser, and better armed and equipped then those of their kin who never left middle earth. It’s even stated during the marching of the armies of the last alliance that the elves that joined them from Greenwood, and Lothlorian were strong but had armor and weapons of inferior quality. So in the end I would say Elrond based on the fact that he is a Noldor elf, and has just as much if not more experience would win 8/10.
@@kerem8190he is king of the elves of Mirkwood. His kingdom is near the river leading into the long lake where the river city of Esgaroth is. The hobbit series and books mention or show it.
Elrond also has Maiar blood running in his veins thanks to his great great grandmother Melian and wields Vilya, the most powerful elven ring. I think he definitely beats Thranduil. But Thranduil is badass too.
Idk imo he should be at Gandalf or at leadt Saruman’s level But if that true then fuck him he could end some shit in Lotr but instead played a mad type Jesus
Let’s put it this way.. I’d rather face off against Elrond than the other guy. The other guys would absolutely kill me instantly and smirk, Elrond would let me get away.
Yes and no. While he is older then Elrond he is not wiser. Nor is he as strong. For Elrond is Noldor, and as the blood of a Myar (a demi god) running through him. Elrond is a better swordsmen, commander, and has better equipment. Elrond also had just as much if not more experience because he was second in command to Gil-galad in the war of the Elves vs Sauron, and the last alliance. Elrond is more powerful then Thranduil in every way. However this isn’t saying Thranduil is weak. He is very strong and powerful and would hand almost anyone their ass in a fight. But again he is not one of the Noldor, nor a holder of a ring of power. You may forget Galadriel, Elrond, and Formally Criadan held the three rings. Elrond got his from Gil-galad when he died, Ciradan gave Gandalf his ring in I think year 1,000 of the third age I’m not sure if I recall that correctly. Anyway Elrond even without a ring of power would win 9/10.
@@trevor3194 I agree he isn’t wiser, he is older and has more experience fighting other beings. Elrond is strong and all but he is still young when compared to other elves. He also was second in command to Gil galad but that doesn’t say much to his combat abilities as much as to his tactical abilities. I say tharanduil wins a physical fight, but Elrond wins in tactically, in war
@@trevor3194 also Thranduil ,while stubborn, did defend his realm and fight more battles in the third age, so he may have Elrond in experience at the end of the third age for sure.
Thranduil for all his wisdom is still an elf who has never seen the light of Valinor thus according to the Lore, lesser than those that have, Elrond is descended from the three royal houses of the Eldar, the royal houses of the Edain and Melian the Maiar. His line is said to be so sacrosanct that it will never fail while middle earth remain. he is also a wielder of a ring of power, something that would never be given to Thranduil.
Forgive my ignorance, please. I thought that the older elves had seen the 3 trees and because of that, the shine literally stays in their eyes. I thought Thranduil had seen them because of his brilliant eye shine? Again, please forgive my ignorance.
@gabrielwatson7721 Not all elven saw the trees, (by the way, they were only 2, one of golden light and one os silver light). They might lived while they lighted the sky but no all of them saw them first hand even if they were born in Valinor and noelven born on Middle Earth after the big travel ever watched them. The moroquendy mostly, were a faction of the elves that started their travel to Valinor but for one or another reason never arrived to the eternal lands so they never saw the trees, the only exception was Thingol, king of Doriath and leader of the telmary, the biggest faction of the elves and the one that stayed on Middle Earth. Nor Elrond nor Thranduil ever knew the trees. Thranduil watched their light but stayed at Middle Earth. Elrond was born after the demmise of the trees in a world with the sun and the moon so he never knew it.
I don’t agree with experience because one Thranduil is older by a at least a thousand years if not more and he has also lived through and possibly thought more wars and battles than Lord Elrond.
Folks, Thranduil is a Sindarin Elf. Sure, he’s strong and mighty but he doesn’t hold a candle to Elrond in terms of Power (that defuse form of magic in the legendarium). Elrond’s heritage is literally the 3 Houses of the Valinorean elves and the Maiar. He has a ring of power and his dad is friggin Earendil. Elrond fought in the War of Wrath, stood before the Valar and *chose* to be fully Elven. There is no scenario in which Thranduil wins in a fair fight.
Funfact. In the dead marshes when frodo falls into the water after seeing a dead elf, that is thranduil’s father oropher, he was slain in the advance into mordor in the FA. This is a reason why thranduil never wanted to sacrifice his people, when his father died so did most of his elven soldiers. It obviously had a impact on thranduil heavily.
Yes and no. While he is older then Elrond he is not wiser. Nor is he as strong. For Elrond is Noldor, and as the blood of a Myar (a demi god) running through him. Elrond is a better swordsmen, commander, and has better equipment. Elrond also had just as much if not more experience because he was second in command to Gil-galad in the war of the Elves vs Sauron, and the last alliance. Elrond is more powerful then Thranduil in every way. However this isn’t saying Thranduil is weak. He is very strong and powerful and would hand almost anyone their ass in a fight. But again he is not one of the Noldor, nor a holder of a ring of power. You may forget Galadriel, Elrond, and Formally Criadan held the three rings. Elrond got his from Gil-galad when he died, Ciradan gave Gandalf his ring in I think year 1,000 of the third age I’m not sure if I recall that correctly. Anyway Elrond even without a ring of power would win 9/10.
Thranduil is waay older + he is a real elf, while Elrond is only half-elf + he have ruled elves more years + his kingdom is stronger. The only way that Elrond is better than Thranduil is maybe status, since Elrond is Eldar and Thranduil is Sindar, and among elves Eldar are more like... High-statused and considered better? Even if they are only considered, in reality there is literally no difference.
Если ты не знал но Трандуил и его отец жили долгое время в относительном мире, а Элронд в это время в войне с Морготом а потом с Сауроном. По этому Элронд опытнее
@@Gold.1720 Трандуил вместе с Орофером основали и правили лесным королевством почти с самого начала 2 эпохи, а Элронд же начал править только в середине. Разница почти в 2000 лет, вполне весомая.
@@Gold.1720 Во-первых, сыновья Феанора не "сами", а просто сброд. Во-вторых он у них не учился, в-третьих Трандуил в любом случае опытнее, ибо не только правил и жил на 1000 лет больше, но ещё реже сидел на месте, ибо Орофер и он сам достаточно воинственны, в отличии от Эльронда который выступал только в экстренных ситуациях.
@@Edarnon_Brodie Насчёт сыновей Феанора Маглор и Маэдрос не сброд, а все остальные сыновья сброд. Не забывай что именно Маэдрос спланировал атаку на Ангбанд(Битва бесчисленных слёз) которую нельзя назвать не удачной так как Морготу пришлось задействовать все свои силы. А Орофер достаточно плохой стратег так как он не дожидаясь сигнала Гил Гэлада бросил отправился в атаку на силы Саурона и погиб.
Ancalagon is the peak of any and all dragons, but it wasn't Elrond who defeated him so we cannot give him that win. But yes you are correct, in terms of experience, Thranduil probably has more.
A friend of mine had an fanfic idea about Thranduil's title of being the 'Elvenking'. He said that it was Lord Elrond of Rivendell that crowned/coronated Thranduil after the death of Gil-Gallad the last Highking of the Elves. And was witnessed by Lord Cirdan and Durin IV of Khazad-dum. Isildur wasn't there since he left with the Ring of Power. Lord Elrond knew that Thranduil and Isildur were good friends. That is why he decided to convince the other Lords of giving Thranduil the title of 'Elvenking'. Leading to the 'Angmar Conspiracy' involving Thranduil's wife (possibly an Avari Elf) and the Witch King's burial that requires a 'Powerful Spell/Curse'.
We don't know many things about Thranduil and I am sure even Tolkien didn't make full story about Thranduil. Remember the elves without rings of power who are much stronger than 3 elven ring bearers. I can name several God-like-powerful elves Feanor, Fingolfin Glorfindel, Thingol, Luthien and so on. I mean elves especially high elves and the ones in throne already bear the elven magic and powers so does Thranduil. It was also mentioned in the book about Thranduil's magic cells. He was not fully explained about his powers. If we take into consideration that he is high Sindarin elf, king, can cast spell on doors and hide his scar, can sense invisible creatures then he definitely has powerful magic and feats. He is just not given enough credits to know more about him. I think he must have his own movie and directors need to create more than the book explained as there's no much info about Thranduil. But I see him as one of the most powerful elves in Middle Earth.
Idk about that Elrond just didn’t have to face half as much trauma and tragedy as thraundiul nobody can really blame thraunduil for his actions after everything he’s been through he was really just looking out for his people
No. Elrond was the #2 guy on two separate war campaigns. He’s arguably the strongest being in Middle earth in the third age, a toss up between him and Galadriel. On top of that. He has NEVER had a territory that he has settled down in ever be over run with evil.
Thranduil would smack Elrond around. He fought in the War of Wrath against Balrogs, Dragons and Shades who he killed and was one of the few Survivors of the Sinking of Beleriand. Elrond is good but not THAT good
Nope Qwenia didn’t fight that war . The dragon that burn his face did it in the 3rd age. After fall of Beleriand . Thranduil never took place in such battle as Last Alliance fight. He was boosted by Peter Jackson movie but in the books they were isolated group of savages who rarely leaves Mirkwood .
@@olegtym7119 Mirkwood Elves are Sindar not Quenya. Sindar fought in the War and Thranduil lived and served in Doriath according to the books. He definitely fought in the War of Wrath
The only difference is that even though thrandruil is older he didnt experience the light of the eldar like elrond so he is less educated also if armies were involved elrond would crush him even harder because even though elrondight have less soldiers they are more skilled bieng that they werent hidden away from conflict mich lile the elves of mirkwood
Elrond is a full elf - he literally chooses to be elf AND he has a Noldorin and Maiar heritage. He is basically the last great lord of the Elves on middle earth. Thranduil cannot win.
Elrond came from an impressive lineage & at same Thranduil learn a lot from Thingol, Elrond’s great great grandfather in Doriath & Celeborn, Thingol’s grand nephew. Each molded in their own skills before ruling a realm of their own.
When your folks lived at the dawn of creation, soaking up magic god rays from the magic trees, and your dad is the fantasy equivalent of the silver surfer, and some of your relatives are literal angels and demigods…then yeah you have more Power over the forces of creation than some old forest elf.
Elrond has a ring of power and he is a high elf of Noldor. Thranduil is a mid level elf of sindar. This is not a competition at all lol Elrond is leagues above Thranduil even thought they both faught together in the last Alliance against Sauron. Thranduil did destroy fire serpents of Morgoth hence the scars on his face to show the damage he inflicted against Morgoth and his fire serpents.
Elrond is as elf royalty as it comes!!! He'd beat crap outta any living elf in his age I'm pretty sure he's like great grandson to a myier or how ever gandalf's race is properly spelt
@@Edarnon_Brodie Elrond is a descendant of Fingolfin through his father And also a descendant of Melian through his mother I hope these names aren't new to you otherwise you should leave this conversation now 😂😂
@@danyelpeter1376 right am I crazy or is this guy missing who Elronds family actually are? He's as elf royalty as they come, with angel bloody in him, this guy seems to think age is power, he's not a vampire. There's a reason he wasn't on the white council, other than his attitude, he doesn't even have one of the rings for christ sake boosting abilities... Also he called Elrond half elf... Yeah he had to choose but it takes no strength or power away from the elf.
Une personne qui connaît pas l'histoire complète du monde de Tolkien et qui se permet de comparer deux personnages qui ont clairement pas la même histoire. Tu peux comparer Legos et Thranduil parce qu'il faut parti du même peuple elfique (en plus des pères et fils bien entendu) mais pas Thranduil et Elrond. Thranduil est plus vieux et c'est le Roi de son peuple, Elrond est très puissant mais c'est un seigneur. De plus Elrond est un semi-elfe à qui les dieux ont donné l'immortalité elfique parce qu'il a pris le parti de vivre en elfe et non en humain comme un autre elfe l'avait fait (je n'ai plus le nom de cet autre elfe). Il a tout une partie de l'histoire qui n'est pas pris en compte dans ce classement c'est bien dommage.
Hey man love the video! Keep up the content, but one question that no one seems to answer no matter how hard I ask. What is that music playing during the short?
Elrond en las películas se ve muy humilde como para sentarse y conversar con él y también conocer rivendel y salir a cabalgar. Pero thranduil, thranduil es otra experiencia muy diferente es como para postrarse a sus Pies y servirle toda una vida sin refutar ni una sola vez ni una sola de sus órdenes, solo cumplir su voluntad al pie de la letra, es que lo veo provoca servirle como una de sus más fuertes guerreros
Sorry but Elrond is more powerful and has a far more prestigious status amongst the elves. He comes from the high elves. I love Thranduil but he’s not on the same level as Galadriel and Elrond
Because Canon-Thranduil in the books, albeit wise and not malignant, was mainly driven by fear and greed. The plot about the jewelry of his wife is made up for the movies and people give him credit only because of Lee Pace.
@@Reckoning2943 in the books,thranduil fought countless battles during the first age and traveled with his father oropher,fought in the battle of the dagorlad,fought in the battle of the five armies,and pushed an invasion of his kingdom back and even eradicated dol guldur with some help with celeborn and galadriel
Well, assuming that my favorite is Elrond, it is still undeniable that Thranduil is great. But Elerondo is still the best. Thranduil may be older and have more physical wounds but he doesn't have the trauma of being abandoned by all his parents, losing his twin and having his bloodline fall into darkness, as Elrond does. Also, my El is a great scholar, linguist, diplomat and tactician. He has learned to serve and to lead, to hurt and to heal. He is the best healer and an outstanding warrior. He had a Feanorian education and therefore was introduced to all disciplines. He would have swept away even without his blood Maiar and his ability to ally with, practically, everyone given his kinship. I admit though that Thranduil isn't doing badly either. Born in the First Era, he survived it all and kept the trust his people had placed in him. Unlike him, his father didn't let himself be influenced by the past so much as to lose the ability to see what was best for his kingdom than him (he wasn't in bad shape like Oropher, let's say). I always remain #Team Elrond!❤️😎👑🎉🔥
Thranduil is quite a bit older than Elrond actually. He was born in Doriath before it fell.
Just because someone is born first doesn’t necessarily mean they have more experience though
@@frogshroom5961 amigo una pregunta quien es más fuerte Aragorn o thranduil
@@hazteamigodedios8438 if you mean stronger then I’m not sure because they’re both really great warriors but in terms of ruling I would say Aragorn
@@frogshroom5961 gracias
@@frogshroom5961 true, but we are talking likely thousands of years. If nothing else, he’s seen more than enough to justify resentment and mistrust of others
There’s just something about Thranduil. He’s just too badass. He’s cold with it🥶🥶.
The actor playing him did a fantastic job that's why
The hobbit is underappreciated
Its the Ice Blue Eyes!
its the eyebrows
Thranduil is definitely not to be underestimated he is powerful he’s the only elf lord without a ring of power his fighting skills and knowledge are top tier
Lord Celeborn does not have a ring of power
@@crystal768 yes he does 3 rings for the elves which each ring has different abilities he has one, Elrond and the lady of light Galadriel
@@merriscurry7004 nope the 3rd ring is actually owned by another elves Cirdan who is the guardian but not king of the kingdom of Lindon in the west (where the fellowhship take boat and say to Valinor) but Cirdan let the ring to none other than Gandalf teh grey the ring of fire
@@valentinlageot4101 who made the rings? Celebr?
@@targonyt7258 Celebrimbor made them, but he gave 2 elven ring to Lindon where they were taken by Gil Galad then Cirdan and ELrond and he gave one to the lady of the forest of Lorien Galadriel
Thranduil has fought against sauron's forces in the battle of the first alliance and also during the battle of the pallenor fields sauron had also sent his forces to mirkwood where thranduil again led his people and in the battle of five armies he was leading the elves against the orcs.he also battled the serpents of the north.
So,
Thranduil's battle exp> elrond's exp
I think
Actually Thranduil's father, Oropher, had fought in the Battle of the First Alliance.
And in The Hobbit (the book) he actually never fought in the war.. neither did Bilbo and Gandalf.
So, actually, Elrond has more experience and he wins, having fought in the War of the Last Alliance as Gil-Galad's herald, and long before he and his brother would be raised by Maedhros and Maglor, gaining a lot of knowledge.
@@Ili_xx1933 I mean In the Hobbit ....he was protecting the human settlements any was slaughtering orcs (movies)
@@adityaabhishek7805 yeah, but still Elrond is more powerful and experienced.
@@Ili_xx1933 well .....true
Not entirely. During the fall of eragion and the war between elves and Sauron, and the last alliance, Elrond was at all of these battles and the second in command to the high king of the Noldor.
Elrond is. Noldor elf unlike Thranduil who is either Sindarin, or Silvin elf. (I forget at Times) either way, the Noldor are some of the strongest elves, having seen the light of the Amon, and the trees of valenor they are stronger, faster, wiser, and better armed and equipped then those of their kin who never left middle earth. It’s even stated during the marching of the armies of the last alliance that the elves that joined them from Greenwood, and Lothlorian were strong but had armor and weapons of inferior quality.
So in the end I would say Elrond based on the fact that he is a Noldor elf, and has just as much if not more experience would win 8/10.
Excuse you, it's KING Thranduil 😂
First thing i noticed and you know Aran Thranduil aint takin that disrespect lying down! 🤣
king of what? probably shits xd
@@kerem8190he is king of the elves of Mirkwood. His kingdom is near the river leading into the long lake where the river city of Esgaroth is. The hobbit series and books mention or show it.
@@CT-0064 the elves abandonned progressively Mirkwood tho
Elrond also has Maiar blood running in his veins thanks to his great great grandmother Melian and wields Vilya, the most powerful elven ring. I think he definitely beats Thranduil. But Thranduil is badass too.
Idk imo he should be at Gandalf or at leadt Saruman’s level
But if that true then fuck him he could end some shit in Lotr but instead played a mad type Jesus
Narya is the chief of the elven rings, narya's more powerful
I meant nenya
@@_RatL0vinghuman_ but thranduil doesn't possess it
@@F2P_Akainu true but vilya won't help elrond In the right, vilya is healing not fighting
Elrond once ruled the matrix. that must count for extra XP
My heart belongs to Thranduil
Oropherion..nice.
@@hurin_thalion11 Maybe I should change my name to Calathiel Orophierion
@@ladycalathieloropherion I think you could make that work.
@@hurin_thalion11 That makes me happy
@@ladycalathieloropherion that's all that matters Calathiel
i love how look the elves of this movies ...
Me too, and yet in the abomination of a show, me and my friend group are looking better and more regal than the elves there 😢
Elrond called Thranduil Mr Anderson it's all over..
Thranduil is neo and Mirkwood is Zion
MR Anderson/agentFBI SMITH
LOL
"Mr. Oakenshield, l was expecting you"
Red skull vs Ronan… latter wins
They are both the epitome of elegance, strength and masculine beauty.
Let’s put it this way.. I’d rather face off against Elrond than the other guy. The other guys would absolutely kill me instantly and smirk, Elrond would let me get away.
Isildur..!! Destroy it now!! 😤
Nope. 😗
Eh..🤔 ok, I guess 🤓👌
Elrond is half elf. He has the badassery of both man and elf.
Eso es por la imagen qt quedó de la Peli, en realidad Thranduil era un pan de Dios 😌
@@free2sigh753 exactly my thought when i was watching that scene 😂
@@free2sigh753 yep, that's exactly how it went down 😂
Both are close, but I say tharanduil cause he is older and probably a little more experienced. Depends how you would factor in Elrond ring
Yes and no. While he is older then Elrond he is not wiser. Nor is he as strong. For Elrond is Noldor, and as the blood of a Myar (a demi god) running through him. Elrond is a better swordsmen, commander, and has better equipment. Elrond also had just as much if not more experience because he was second in command to Gil-galad in the war of the Elves vs Sauron, and the last alliance. Elrond is more powerful then Thranduil in every way.
However this isn’t saying Thranduil is weak. He is very strong and powerful and would hand almost anyone their ass in a fight. But again he is not one of the Noldor, nor a holder of a ring of power. You may forget Galadriel, Elrond, and Formally Criadan held the three rings. Elrond got his from Gil-galad when he died, Ciradan gave Gandalf his ring in I think year 1,000 of the third age I’m not sure if I recall that correctly. Anyway Elrond even without a ring of power would win 9/10.
@@trevor3194 amigo quien es más fuerte capitán America o thaduil
@@trevor3194 I agree he isn’t wiser, he is older and has more experience fighting other beings. Elrond is strong and all but he is still young when compared to other elves. He also was second in command to Gil galad but that doesn’t say much to his combat abilities as much as to his tactical abilities.
I say tharanduil wins a physical fight, but Elrond wins in tactically, in war
@@trevor3194 also Thranduil ,while stubborn, did defend his realm and fight more battles in the third age, so he may have Elrond in experience at the end of the third age for sure.
@@gandalfthewhite.5245 Not to mention he defended his people without a ring of power conmparing to elrond
Thranduil for all his wisdom is still an elf who has never seen the light of Valinor thus according to the Lore, lesser than those that have, Elrond is descended from the three royal houses of the Eldar, the royal houses of the Edain and Melian the Maiar. His line is said to be so sacrosanct that it will never fail while middle earth remain. he is also a wielder of a ring of power, something that would never be given to Thranduil.
Forgive my ignorance, please. I thought that the older elves had seen the 3 trees and because of that, the shine literally stays in their eyes. I thought Thranduil had seen them because of his brilliant eye shine? Again, please forgive my ignorance.
@gabrielwatson7721 Not all elven saw the trees, (by the way, they were only 2, one of golden light and one os silver light). They might lived while they lighted the sky but no all of them saw them first hand even if they were born in Valinor and noelven born on Middle Earth after the big travel ever watched them.
The moroquendy mostly, were a faction of the elves that started their travel to Valinor but for one or another reason never arrived to the eternal lands so they never saw the trees, the only exception was Thingol, king of Doriath and leader of the telmary, the biggest faction of the elves and the one that stayed on Middle Earth.
Nor Elrond nor Thranduil ever knew the trees. Thranduil watched their light but stayed at Middle Earth. Elrond was born after the demmise of the trees in a world with the sun and the moon so he never knew it.
I don’t agree with experience because one Thranduil is older by a at least a thousand years if not more and he has also lived through and possibly thought more wars and battles than Lord Elrond.
Thranduil my Lord 💚🌲🧝🏻♂️
Folks, Thranduil is a Sindarin Elf. Sure, he’s strong and mighty but he doesn’t hold a candle to Elrond in terms of Power (that defuse form
of magic in the legendarium). Elrond’s heritage is literally the 3 Houses of the Valinorean elves and the Maiar. He has a ring of power and his dad is friggin Earendil. Elrond fought in the War of Wrath, stood before the Valar and *chose* to be fully Elven. There is no scenario in which Thranduil wins in a fair fight.
Elrond litteraly was fighting 2v9 against nazguls
I believe it was 3 against the 9
@@hurin_thalion11 no Galadriela and Gandalf wasn't fighting
@@hurin_thalion11 and radagast just taked gandslf
@@kittyboy5685 have another drink, pal
@@kittyboy5685 I see what you're saying, but she did get up and take out all nine in one shot
Bro look at these characters so majestic
Feel like Thranduil was the most popular character to come out of the hobbit movies😅
Cuz hes HAWT and a tortured heart
I remember that Thranduil is older than Elrond.
For me this is a draw🤔
Ah yes, Thranduil king of Smirkwood😂😂
Funfact. In the dead marshes when frodo falls into the water after seeing a dead elf, that is thranduil’s father oropher, he was slain in the advance into mordor in the FA.
This is a reason why thranduil never wanted to sacrifice his people, when his father died so did most of his elven soldiers. It obviously had a impact on thranduil heavily.
Yeah Thranduil is actually quite a bit more experienced than Elrond
Yes and no. While he is older then Elrond he is not wiser. Nor is he as strong. For Elrond is Noldor, and as the blood of a Myar (a demi god) running through him. Elrond is a better swordsmen, commander, and has better equipment. Elrond also had just as much if not more experience because he was second in command to Gil-galad in the war of the Elves vs Sauron, and the last alliance. Elrond is more powerful then Thranduil in every way.
However this isn’t saying Thranduil is weak. He is very strong and powerful and would hand almost anyone their ass in a fight. But again he is not one of the Noldor, nor a holder of a ring of power. You may forget Galadriel, Elrond, and Formally Criadan held the three rings. Elrond got his from Gil-galad when he died, Ciradan gave Gandalf his ring in I think year 1,000 of the third age I’m not sure if I recall that correctly. Anyway Elrond even without a ring of power would win 9/10.
@@trevor3194 amigo una pregunta quien es más fuerte thranduil o capitán america
@@hazteamigodedios8438 Thranduil
Thranduil is waay older + he is a real elf, while Elrond is only half-elf + he have ruled elves more years + his kingdom is stronger.
The only way that Elrond is better than Thranduil is maybe status, since Elrond is Eldar and Thranduil is Sindar, and among elves Eldar are more like... High-statused and considered better? Even if they are only considered, in reality there is literally no difference.
Если ты не знал но Трандуил и его отец жили долгое время в относительном мире, а Элронд в это время в войне с Морготом а потом с Сауроном. По этому Элронд опытнее
@@Gold.1720 Трандуил вместе с Орофером основали и правили лесным королевством почти с самого начала 2 эпохи, а Элронд же начал править только в середине. Разница почти в 2000 лет, вполне весомая.
@@Edarnon_Brodie боевой опыт будет за Элрондом так как он учился не у а бы кого а у самих сыновей Феанора, а потом у Гил Гэлада.
@@Gold.1720 Во-первых, сыновья Феанора не "сами", а просто сброд. Во-вторых он у них не учился, в-третьих Трандуил в любом случае опытнее, ибо не только правил и жил на 1000 лет больше, но ещё реже сидел на месте, ибо Орофер и он сам достаточно воинственны, в отличии от Эльронда который выступал только в экстренных ситуациях.
@@Edarnon_Brodie Насчёт сыновей Феанора Маглор и Маэдрос не сброд, а все остальные сыновья сброд. Не забывай что именно Маэдрос спланировал атаку на Ангбанд(Битва бесчисленных слёз) которую нельзя назвать не удачной так как Морготу пришлось задействовать все свои силы. А Орофер достаточно плохой стратег так как он не дожидаясь сигнала Гил Гэлада бросил отправился в атаку на силы Саурона и погиб.
Thranduil is best
Most beautiful elf: Thranduil - 1
Most beautiful elven hair: Thranduil - 1
Most sassy elf: Thranduil - 1
Thickest eyebrow in middle earth: Thranduil - 1
Thranduil wins 😂😂😂
Yeah no Elrond got the eyebrow of doom
Again just randomly given points.
Bro experience has to go to Thranduil. I know that Elronds father defeated Ancalagont he Black but Thranduil fought against the first kind of dragons.
But the first dragons were not as powerful as ancalagonalso thranduil is only sindar
Ancalagon is the peak of any and all dragons, but it wasn't Elrond who defeated him so we cannot give him that win. But yes you are correct, in terms of experience, Thranduil probably has more.
@@argon2423 As i said, it was Elronds father Eärendil. 😅
@@fursonia9502 I know, I was just reinforcing what you said as so it can't be attributed to Elrond in this Elrond vs Thranduil.
Трандуил не сражался).... Фильмы это не канон..
love the FELLOWSHIP......Aragon, Legolas and Gimli....literally the Trio
A friend of mine had an fanfic idea about Thranduil's title of being the 'Elvenking'.
He said that it was Lord Elrond of Rivendell that crowned/coronated Thranduil after the death of Gil-Gallad the last Highking of the Elves.
And was witnessed by Lord Cirdan and Durin IV of Khazad-dum.
Isildur wasn't there since he left with the Ring of Power. Lord Elrond knew that Thranduil and Isildur were good friends. That is why he decided to convince the other Lords of giving Thranduil the title of 'Elvenking'.
Leading to the 'Angmar Conspiracy'
involving Thranduil's wife (possibly an Avari Elf) and the Witch King's burial that requires a 'Powerful Spell/Curse'.
Good edit thranduil literally fought dragons and survivied 💀
The two daddies >>>>
Both. Both are good.
Maedhros and Maglor would be proud.
These type of videos make my brain feel smooth
Do you know the track playing
bruh lord elrond is amazing
he like badass in the chillest way
Thranduil 🥰
I love them both ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thranduil ⚡
in the book, Lord Elrond is a beast
Elrond takes it mid difficulty. Elrond has Maiar blood and has a ring of power.
Maiar kanı yok elrond da
@@talhaozkaya671false
Me who unironically crushed on Elrond when i was a teenager:
FOR ME IS THRANDUIL EVEN IF I LIKE ELROND TOO I WILL ALWAYS PREFER THRANDUIL
We don't know many things about Thranduil and I am sure even Tolkien didn't make full story about Thranduil. Remember the elves without rings of power who are much stronger than 3 elven ring bearers. I can name several God-like-powerful elves Feanor, Fingolfin Glorfindel, Thingol, Luthien and so on. I mean elves especially high elves and the ones in throne already bear the elven magic and powers so does Thranduil. It was also mentioned in the book about Thranduil's magic cells. He was not fully explained about his powers. If we take into consideration that he is high Sindarin elf, king, can cast spell on doors and hide his scar, can sense invisible creatures then he definitely has powerful magic and feats. He is just not given enough credits to know more about him. I think he must have his own movie and directors need to create more than the book explained as there's no much info about Thranduil. But I see him as one of the most powerful elves in Middle Earth.
"They are less wise and more dangerous"
Thranduil💪😎
Thranduil ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍😍😍😍
I like wood elfs the most
Elrond was much more emotionally mature, which helped him a lot.
Idk about that Elrond just didn’t have to face half as much trauma and tragedy as thraundiul nobody can really blame thraunduil for his actions after everything he’s been through he was really just looking out for his people
No. Elrond was the #2 guy on two separate war campaigns. He’s arguably the strongest being in Middle earth in the third age, a toss up between him and Galadriel.
On top of that. He has NEVER had a territory that he has settled down in ever be over run with evil.
On top of that, he is way older
Thranduil would smack Elrond around. He fought in the War of Wrath against Balrogs, Dragons and Shades who he killed and was one of the few Survivors of the Sinking of Beleriand. Elrond is good but not THAT good
Nope Qwenia didn’t fight that war . The dragon that burn his face did it in the 3rd age. After fall of Beleriand .
Thranduil never took place in such battle as Last Alliance fight. He was boosted by Peter Jackson movie but in the books they were isolated group of savages who rarely leaves Mirkwood .
@@olegtym7119 Mirkwood Elves are Sindar not Quenya. Sindar fought in the War and Thranduil lived and served in Doriath according to the books. He definitely fought in the War of Wrath
dude thranduil cool asf holly shit
I feel Elrond is more of a commander that would try to save everyone while thrandruil is the psychopath that would disregard everyone but his own men
More like the psychopath full stop.
The only difference is that even though thrandruil is older he didnt experience the light of the eldar like elrond so he is less educated also if armies were involved elrond would crush him even harder because even though elrondight have less soldiers they are more skilled bieng that they werent hidden away from conflict mich lile the elves of mirkwood
Weren't the elves of mirkwood involved din most of the major battles against Sauron on top of battling with the orcs of Dol Guldur?
It’s raining here today so, LOTR telethon. Absolutely ❤
thranduil is older and has more experience actually but you also didn’t specify what kind of experience so…
Elrond soled all 9 of the Nazgûl at once, potency, attack, and attack speed go to him
The first king of Númenor was Lord Elrond's twin brother and Aragon many times great grandfather
Elrond is half elf and Noldor, Thranduil is a full Elf aristocrat from Silvan elves.
Elrond is a full elf - he literally chooses to be elf AND he has a Noldorin and Maiar heritage. He is basically the last great lord of the Elves on middle earth. Thranduil cannot win.
Elrond is pretty OP tbh now that I think about ìt
Elrond came from an impressive lineage & at same Thranduil learn a lot from Thingol, Elrond’s great great grandfather in Doriath & Celeborn, Thingol’s grand nephew. Each molded in their own skills before ruling a realm of their own.
I always liked elrond better
how dose Elrond have more knowledge than him ?
When your folks lived at the dawn of creation, soaking up magic god rays from the magic trees, and your dad is the fantasy equivalent of the silver surfer, and some of your relatives are literal angels and demigods…then yeah you have more Power over the forces of creation than some old forest elf.
Elrond has a ring of power and he is a high elf of Noldor. Thranduil is a mid level elf of sindar. This is not a competition at all lol Elrond is leagues above Thranduil even thought they both faught together in the last Alliance against Sauron. Thranduil did destroy fire serpents of Morgoth hence the scars on his face to show the damage he inflicted against Morgoth and his fire serpents.
Red Skull vs Ronan The Accuser
Unfair comparison. Elrond is superior by far.
Thranduil 🎉❤
Love it 🙂👍
From a movie fan point i get it but from a book one ...
Red skull vs Ronan the accuser
Elrond vs woodland realm
Elrond is as elf royalty as it comes!!! He'd beat crap outta any living elf in his age I'm pretty sure he's like great grandson to a myier or how ever gandalf's race is properly spelt
Bruh, Elrond is a half-elf and literally born yesterday compared to Thranduil
@@Edarnon_Brodie again part "Angel" Thrandruil just doesn't have that lineage
@@Edarnon_Brodie
Elrond is a descendant of Fingolfin through his father
And also a descendant of Melian through his mother
I hope these names aren't new to you otherwise you should leave this conversation now 😂😂
@@danyelpeter1376 right am I crazy or is this guy missing who Elronds family actually are? He's as elf royalty as they come, with angel bloody in him, this guy seems to think age is power, he's not a vampire. There's a reason he wasn't on the white council, other than his attitude, he doesn't even have one of the rings for christ sake boosting abilities... Also he called Elrond half elf... Yeah he had to choose but it takes no strength or power away from the elf.
@@AndrewofCaliban His father was an half elf but his mother was half elf and part Human and Maia this guy does not know what he's talking about 😂😂
"Mr. Anderson..."
-Elrond
As far as sheer beauty, Thranduil!
Sorry, No just no
Thranduil is much stronger than Elrond and he has more experience in battle .
с чего вы это взяли?
Une personne qui connaît pas l'histoire complète du monde de Tolkien et qui se permet de comparer deux personnages qui ont clairement pas la même histoire. Tu peux comparer Legos et Thranduil parce qu'il faut parti du même peuple elfique (en plus des pères et fils bien entendu) mais pas Thranduil et Elrond. Thranduil est plus vieux et c'est le Roi de son peuple, Elrond est très puissant mais c'est un seigneur. De plus Elrond est un semi-elfe à qui les dieux ont donné l'immortalité elfique parce qu'il a pris le parti de vivre en elfe et non en humain comme un autre elfe l'avait fait (je n'ai plus le nom de cet autre elfe).
Il a tout une partie de l'histoire qui n'est pas pris en compte dans ce classement c'est bien dommage.
Hey man love the video! Keep up the content, but one question that no one seems to answer no matter how hard I ask.
What is that music playing during the short?
After dark-audio edit👍Thank you for this comment
@@lotrenjoyer4672 no problem. Thank you for answering my question.
Beautiful-thranduil
thranduil is actually older then elrond oddly enough… i caught that on experience but awOOOOO this is good anyways
Elrond > thranduil and it's even not close
Elrond en las películas se ve muy humilde como para sentarse y conversar con él y también conocer rivendel y salir a cabalgar.
Pero thranduil, thranduil es otra experiencia muy diferente es como para postrarse a sus
Pies y servirle toda una vida sin refutar ni una sola vez ni una sola de sus órdenes, solo cumplir su voluntad al pie de la letra, es que lo veo provoca servirle como una de sus más fuertes guerreros
both are good
Amazing edit! ❤️
Thanks!
What's the sound track remix?
@@warlordqueekheadtaker7960iirc I think it’s an after dark remix by ice cold ben
Also thanks for bringing me back to this goated edit
@@TheShadowlessit’s kinda mid cause it was too short and the quality was bad
thranduil is the best ✨🙁
You forgot to mention that Elrond has Vilya, the most powerful ring of power.
Second in power to the one ring.
first of the elven rings, yes
@@hurin_thalion11Stop make me hrny!!! 😅
@@KoenigElessar nice screen name..
I knew a guy whose actual name was Aragorn.
@@hurin_thalion11 I hope he wasnt bullied in school 😅
BIQ and strength goes to Elond.
Don't underestimate Elrond
I believe Thranduil is around 4000 years old, and Legolas is about 2500?
No. Thranduil was born before the fall of Doriath he is atleast 6000+ if not older
Elrond has a ring of power. He also fought the nazguls and won. Elrond would win this
Sorry but Elrond is more powerful and has a far more prestigious status amongst the elves. He comes from the high elves. I love Thranduil but he’s not on the same level as Galadriel and Elrond
I like them both..
Why does everyone hate thranduil, he's like underrated
HATE THRANDUIL? BOI U LIVIN UNDER A ROCK OR SOMETHING? LITERALLY EVERYONE IS SIMPING FOR THRANDUIL AND THERE ISNT ONE WHO DOESNT LIKE HIM
Because Canon-Thranduil in the books, albeit wise and not malignant, was mainly driven by fear and greed. The plot about the jewelry of his wife is made up for the movies and people give him credit only because of Lee Pace.
@@Reckoning2943 in the books,thranduil fought countless battles during the first age and traveled with his father oropher,fought in the battle of the dagorlad,fought in the battle of the five armies,and pushed an invasion of his kingdom back and even eradicated dol guldur with some help with celeborn and galadriel
@@_RatL0vinghuman_ and yet he was an elf who was shaken so badly that he preferred to hide in his realm
@@Reckoning2943 he was so afraid of losing his son and his people like he did his wife and father, can you blame him
Well, assuming that my favorite is Elrond, it is still undeniable that Thranduil is great. But Elerondo is still the best. Thranduil may be older and have more physical wounds but he doesn't have the trauma of being abandoned by all his parents, losing his twin and having his bloodline fall into darkness, as Elrond does. Also, my El is a great scholar, linguist, diplomat and tactician. He has learned to serve and to lead, to hurt and to heal. He is the best healer and an outstanding warrior. He had a Feanorian education and therefore was introduced to all disciplines. He would have swept away even without his blood Maiar and his ability to ally with, practically, everyone given his kinship. I admit though that Thranduil isn't doing badly either. Born in the First Era, he survived it all and kept the trust his people had placed in him. Unlike him, his father didn't let himself be influenced by the past so much as to lose the ability to see what was best for his kingdom than him (he wasn't in bad shape like Oropher, let's say). I always remain #Team Elrond!❤️😎👑🎉🔥
Thranduil teleri halkindan Elrond noldor soyundan, aralarinda çok fark var, yaş olarak Thranduil çok büyük
Older doesn't have to mean wiser or more experiensed.
Swap strength and experience since Thranduil is older
Only thrunduil
Thranduil wins in endurance and durability: that freaking bad-ass diva survived dragon fire 🤩😍
Thranduil wins in my opinion