Ahh thank you mate, yeah I guess you’re right! Probably should have called myself the ‘slowest’ driver, rather than the ‘worst’ one 🤣 Thanks for watching, appreciate it.
Thank you Simon. I used to choose this strategy quite a lot, and used it to good effect. This race, though, it was more a necessity than choice… wasn’t fast enough to keep up with them. But it also meant I wasn’t close enough to get taken out… sometimes it pays to be slow 🤣
This race is a great example of the phrase “It pays to be consistent” Being quicker means nothing if you can’t keep the car on track. Good race Chris 👍🏿
Consistency is key in any race, being ultra fast only helps in qualification unless it is a consistent fast. Good race craft and awareness helps to stay out of trouble.
Haha think of it as a badge of honour… you’re not a true sim racer until you’ve crashed in a CR vid 🤣 was that you in the BMW on lap 1? Getting bashed all over the place 🤣
maybe one of slowest on pace but looking at the finish board the highest SR.... i'd know where i'd rather be as proven by your driving, good job out there today
well done. you definitely do not deserve to suffer in rookie series. yet, just another proof how safety as a priority pays biggest dividends, especially when surrounded by rookies. once I ended up 3rd after starting from the pit, in a mid season race on spa with mostly rookies by collecting freebies and passing only on kammel straight for safety. also, I always wondered what those lap drivers are thinking, if they're thinking at all.
Yeah, it’s rough down there! I know I could just run a few races safely at the back and farm a good amount of SR, but when I only get to do 1-2 races a week, I want to try and make the most of them and at least try to get a good finish. Luckily, I had the best of both worlds here. My pace was way slower, which meant I wasn’t close enough to get taken out 🤣
All those poor result races you had a few months back came back to bless you. Great race mate. You do as you always do, and it paid off with a top 10. Congrats!
Well done, Chris! Awesome to see luck go your way for once. I was on the edge of my seat the whole race expecting you to get collected, which seems be what normally happens. Freebies are how I get most of my places when I race. But in my league, we don't have as much carnage as you see in typical LFM lobbies.
Races on LFM are definitely better if you just stay out of trouble. The amount of progress you can make from the back is insane. Silverstone was always one of my weakest tracks as well. Until this week, my best time was a 2:02.5. But somehow I've found a little bit of pace and come within a whisker of 1:59 and now usually run within the 2:00 mark almost every lap. By being consistent and not making mistakes, I got myself a 2nd and 3rd last night. Sudden and massive improvement on earlier in the week. I think some of it is getting a decent setup that fits your driving style. The Coach Dave setups I've been using aren't working for me but found one guy on TH-cam that provides some very nice setups that allow me to attack corners, especially Maggots and Beckets, much more in the Ferrari. The ones I've been trying are the ones by Fri3d0lf. I'm a bit of a coward so tend to use his Safe Quali setups for everything with maybe some minor tweaks. You're usually quicker than I am so give those a try if you haven't already. I'll tell you what, though. Never complain about the standard of driving on LFM. 🙂 Everyone's Lando Norris on LFM compared to what you find on Forza. It's almost impossible to get a decent race on there. 😤 I've tried. Don't think I'll be bothering with it again.
Oooh yes, that’s the guy I found on TH-cam too, and used a few of his setups. After my last few races where I’ve had some spins in the Ferrari, I decided to go back to my ‘play it safe’ option of the BMW here. I find it the easiest to drive, and keep in a straight line. But I’m slower in it. Knowing how much I struggle with Silverstone, I thought the safe option was the wise one! My 2.00.7 in qualifying was really pushing it. Think I matched it on one or two laps in the race, but with invalidated laps. As for this race, I have no problem with bad driving standards when it’s not me getting caught up in it 🤣
I did the same race today. I've had such an amazing race I can't get higher than a 2:01 at Silverstone. Everyone was really respectful. But it seems like in your split all the front runners only know how to do qualy lap times and don't know how to reach each other
You’re absolutely spot on. These guys are VERY fast on a hot lap, but aren’t so good when it comes to racing alongside other cars. Nearly all the crashes in this race were caused by drivers getting too close to the cars around them.
You will find that quite a bit on LFM. People who can hot lap but can't string a consistent race together. I've actually made a friend by playing on LFM and he's one of these guys. At times he's pulled out laps way faster than me but unfortunately keeps making mistakes. I thought I'd pulled out a decent quali time in my second race last night but he pipped me to 3rd on the grid and I think he stayed there the entire race. I had my usual bad start but remained consistent while those in front of me were dropping it. He then dropped it on the penultimate lap while trying to chase down the guy in second, handing me my second podium in two races. It was a shame as he'd driven a tidy race up until that point. I was catching him but had already decided to let him keep third, considering how late it was in the race. At the end of the day, speed alone isn't enough. Keep it tidy and the results will come.
Yes, safety first is the way to the chequered, let all the aggressors have their route to the bin. The yellow flag merchant never gave the place back and got his just deserves a few laps later, I had to chuckle
Yeah absolutely. I knew before the race started that I was way off the pace. Then I saw how aggressive everyone was driving on that opening lap… straight away I knew it was safer to play it steady!
It's comforting to know I'm not the only one who struggles to get into the 1:50s at Silverstone. Even in my real-life oval racing, I've learned that in order to gain positions, just hang back, avoid the crazy guys, let them wreck each other out, and gain positions by default. Simple. 😅 What a well-run race. It encourages me for my Silverstone race in the Moza Challenge tomorrow.
Yeah I noticed not many people chose the M4. For a good reason! But it’s my go-to when I want a safe race. The last few in the Ferrari, I’ve had a few spins. So knew I’d be a bit more steady in the BMW.
Great drive man you really need to be consistent around Silverstone and that's what you done. What was with the McLaren flashing his lights before the straight.
Thankfully I didn’t notice the headlight flashing! Purely a distraction tactic, and it usually works on me… if I see it, I get annoyed and then make a mistake 🤣
The crashing out in front is helpful for places, but I don't like it when that means I have the fastest drivers on the track trying to make places back up behind me. Not uncommon for me to stack it when I get scared of braking too early because they're all over my rearview.
Yes, that’s exactly what got me in the last lap of this one. I was so worried about the guy in my rear view mirror, I was watching him to make sure he was a safe distance away and completely missed my marker. The fact he was a lap down, was even more frustrating!
Don't you hate when back-markers still try to win the race lol , earlier today a back-marker tried to defend instead of letting me through after I flashed him so I put pressure on him to force him off the track
Ahh yeah it’s really frustrating. I usually pull aside and let a lapped driver behind unlap themselves, rather than risk them taking me out. But a few times lately, doing that has cost me positions on track… it allows the drivers chasing me to close in and, sometimes, dive through the same gap. So I tried to stay in front of the guy, but that didn’t work either… I got too stressed!
Great race with a bit of luck and a bit of skill staying out of trouble. I must say your LFM race videos are not a good advertisement for the driving standards in LFM. Makes me really wary of giving it a go again.
By the letter of the law, yellow flag rules are in place until you reach the next flag point, and the greens are being waved. So you can’t pass, even after the incident, until yiu see green. But these rules aren’t enforced in sim racing, so in reality, if you lift or slow down approaching an accident, you will either get overtaken or hit from behind 🤣
@@chrisrogerssimracing Yeah, to me it's quite strange, because there would be less incidents if people actually didn't race under yellow flags in simracing.
You may not have been the fastest car out there, but lap time is worth nothing if you can't keep it on the black stuff and pointing the right direction. If you want to finish first, first you have to finish.
Exactly. Not enough people realise that in sim racing. Particularly in ACC… there are a lot of VERY fast hot-lappers, who then struggle as soon as other cars are nearby. So many of the crashes in this race were simply caused by drivers getting too close to each other.
Haha, this is one of the few times it was an advantage to be slower. If I’d have been a bit faster, I’d have been closer to these guys and probably would have been crashed out 🤣
Its one thing Hotlapping and another thing is race craft,they hardly ever practice alternative lines and braking points going side by side that's why there are so many incidents, no point doing a 59 in quali if you can't race side by side.
Yeah, exactly right. Pretty much every crash I featured on replays was caused by that exact issue… drivers not knowing how to drive closely with one another. Thankfully, I was so slow, I couldn’t keep up with them and didn’t get caught in any of it!
Ahh that’s good. It looked like he waited for you to rejoin first too, which I always like to see. Haha yeah I was panicking on the last lap! Glad the flag came out… one more lap and you’d have got past me!
Yeah this is very true. I wish the sims could find a way to enforce it, as I do like to race by ‘real’ rules. RaceRoom has an option to add yellow flag rules, and we tried it for a while in community races. But it was flawed…would often force you to give a position back if you passed someone and they had a tyre just over the kerb, for example. So it didn’t really work.
Worst driver + Finished the race +didn't take anybody out = Not worst Driver . Simple Math .
Ahh thank you mate, yeah I guess you’re right! Probably should have called myself the ‘slowest’ driver, rather than the ‘worst’ one 🤣 Thanks for watching, appreciate it.
Never ceases to amaze me how much progress can be made by simply keeping out of trouble. Well driven Chris.
Thank you Simon. I used to choose this strategy quite a lot, and used it to good effect. This race, though, it was more a necessity than choice… wasn’t fast enough to keep up with them. But it also meant I wasn’t close enough to get taken out… sometimes it pays to be slow 🤣
This race is a great example of the phrase
“It pays to be consistent”
Being quicker means nothing if you can’t keep the car on track. Good race Chris 👍🏿
Absolutely! I knew my pace wasn’t good enough to compete, and I also knew I’d bag a few places from crashes. Just wasn’t expecting it to be this many!
Consistency is key in any race, being ultra fast only helps in qualification unless it is a consistent fast.
Good race craft and awareness helps to stay out of trouble.
Never thought I'd be featured in a Chris Video from multiple angles as I crash and take out multiple drivers in the most glamorous way possible 😂
Haha think of it as a badge of honour… you’re not a true sim racer until you’ve crashed in a CR vid 🤣 was that you in the BMW on lap 1? Getting bashed all over the place 🤣
maybe one of slowest on pace but looking at the finish board the highest SR.... i'd know where i'd rather be as proven by your driving, good job out there today
Ah yes, the time-honored tradition of gaining positions merely by staying out of trouble. :D
Nicely done, Chris.
Haha yes. Sometimes, being too slow is an advantage… I couldn’t get close enough to them, for them to take me out 🤣
well done. you definitely do not deserve to suffer in rookie series. yet, just another proof how safety as a priority pays biggest dividends, especially when surrounded by rookies. once I ended up 3rd after starting from the pit, in a mid season race on spa with mostly rookies by collecting freebies and passing only on kammel straight for safety. also, I always wondered what those lap drivers are thinking, if they're thinking at all.
Yeah, it’s rough down there! I know I could just run a few races safely at the back and farm a good amount of SR, but when I only get to do 1-2 races a week, I want to try and make the most of them and at least try to get a good finish. Luckily, I had the best of both worlds here. My pace was way slower, which meant I wasn’t close enough to get taken out 🤣
@@chrisrogerssimracing couple of more races like this one and I'm sure you'll be out of there. best of luck.
I dipped into rookie series and found the standard higher. Guess everyone was trying to be safe to get out of rookies
All those poor result races you had a few months back came back to bless you. Great race mate. You do as you always do, and it paid off with a top 10. Congrats!
Thank you! Yeah that bad run seems a long time ago now!
That was a solid and steady race. Just proves that being fast without control doesn't win races. Great race Chris.
Well done, Chris! Awesome to see luck go your way for once. I was on the edge of my seat the whole race expecting you to get collected, which seems be what normally happens. Freebies are how I get most of my places when I race. But in my league, we don't have as much carnage as you see in typical LFM lobbies.
Good job Chris. Clean driving and not making mistakes is ALWAYS the best strategy
Thank you mate, yeah if there’s one thing I do well, it’s hanging back and avoiding trouble 🤣
Nice run there Chris! Yup, got a keep it on the track to finish in the race…. Great finish! Thanks for sharing w us!!
Thank you Walt! Slow and steady got the result in this one!
Really do enjoy ACC for this reason you're always in with a chance by using your brains well done mate.
Great Job staying out of trouble Chris and nice P10!
Thanks Bill, sometimes it pays to be slow… I couldn’t get close enough for them to take me out 🤣
Races on LFM are definitely better if you just stay out of trouble. The amount of progress you can make from the back is insane. Silverstone was always one of my weakest tracks as well. Until this week, my best time was a 2:02.5. But somehow I've found a little bit of pace and come within a whisker of 1:59 and now usually run within the 2:00 mark almost every lap. By being consistent and not making mistakes, I got myself a 2nd and 3rd last night. Sudden and massive improvement on earlier in the week.
I think some of it is getting a decent setup that fits your driving style. The Coach Dave setups I've been using aren't working for me but found one guy on TH-cam that provides some very nice setups that allow me to attack corners, especially Maggots and Beckets, much more in the Ferrari. The ones I've been trying are the ones by Fri3d0lf. I'm a bit of a coward so tend to use his Safe Quali setups for everything with maybe some minor tweaks. You're usually quicker than I am so give those a try if you haven't already.
I'll tell you what, though. Never complain about the standard of driving on LFM. 🙂 Everyone's Lando Norris on LFM compared to what you find on Forza. It's almost impossible to get a decent race on there. 😤 I've tried. Don't think I'll be bothering with it again.
Oooh yes, that’s the guy I found on TH-cam too, and used a few of his setups. After my last few races where I’ve had some spins in the Ferrari, I decided to go back to my ‘play it safe’ option of the BMW here. I find it the easiest to drive, and keep in a straight line. But I’m slower in it. Knowing how much I struggle with Silverstone, I thought the safe option was the wise one! My 2.00.7 in qualifying was really pushing it. Think I matched it on one or two laps in the race, but with invalidated laps. As for this race, I have no problem with bad driving standards when it’s not me getting caught up in it 🤣
I did the same race today. I've had such an amazing race I can't get higher than a 2:01 at Silverstone. Everyone was really respectful. But it seems like in your split all the front runners only know how to do qualy lap times and don't know how to reach each other
You’re absolutely spot on. These guys are VERY fast on a hot lap, but aren’t so good when it comes to racing alongside other cars. Nearly all the crashes in this race were caused by drivers getting too close to the cars around them.
You will find that quite a bit on LFM. People who can hot lap but can't string a consistent race together. I've actually made a friend by playing on LFM and he's one of these guys. At times he's pulled out laps way faster than me but unfortunately keeps making mistakes. I thought I'd pulled out a decent quali time in my second race last night but he pipped me to 3rd on the grid and I think he stayed there the entire race. I had my usual bad start but remained consistent while those in front of me were dropping it. He then dropped it on the penultimate lap while trying to chase down the guy in second, handing me my second podium in two races. It was a shame as he'd driven a tidy race up until that point. I was catching him but had already decided to let him keep third, considering how late it was in the race.
At the end of the day, speed alone isn't enough. Keep it tidy and the results will come.
Yes, safety first is the way to the chequered, let all the aggressors have their route to the bin. The yellow flag merchant never gave the place back and got his just deserves a few laps later, I had to chuckle
Ahhh yes, a swift and satisfying strike of justice 🤣 I enjoyed that one too! Good to hear from you JD, hope all is well.
Good stuff! That's my strategy. Keep my nose clean and pick off the weak ones while benefitting from others' mistakes.
Yeah absolutely. I knew before the race started that I was way off the pace. Then I saw how aggressive everyone was driving on that opening lap… straight away I knew it was safer to play it steady!
It's comforting to know I'm not the only one who struggles to get into the 1:50s at Silverstone. Even in my real-life oval racing, I've learned that in order to gain positions, just hang back, avoid the crazy guys, let them wreck each other out, and gain positions by default. Simple. 😅 What a well-run race. It encourages me for my Silverstone race in the Moza Challenge tomorrow.
Nice, glad it provided you with a morale boost. Hope the race went well!
Intelligent racing wins places and you've just proved it. 👏
Cheers Tony, yep, always satisfying to claim a finish like that, despite having such poor pace!
P10 is a good result with the M4 here, even with LFM's custom BoP. :)
Yeah I noticed not many people chose the M4. For a good reason! But it’s my go-to when I want a safe race. The last few in the Ferrari, I’ve had a few spins. So knew I’d be a bit more steady in the BMW.
Another superb race, consistency over speed! Great strategy.
Cheers mate, yeah it’s a necessary strategy when I was so much slower than everyone else 🤣
Keeping it on the black stuff always pays off Chris, great result 👍🏁
Cheers mate, yeah I knew I’d only crash out if I pushed beyond my limits to try and race these guys, so decided on the sensible strategy for this one!
Great drive man you really need to be consistent around Silverstone and that's what you done. What was with the McLaren flashing his lights before the straight.
Thankfully I didn’t notice the headlight flashing! Purely a distraction tactic, and it usually works on me… if I see it, I get annoyed and then make a mistake 🤣
Fantastic entertainment as always mate 👍
Thank you mate! Cheers for watching
dam what a race well done chris
Cheers Nick! Hopefully I’ll run into you on the grid again soon! It was good to see you in the Monza race the other week
The crashing out in front is helpful for places, but I don't like it when that means I have the fastest drivers on the track trying to make places back up behind me. Not uncommon for me to stack it when I get scared of braking too early because they're all over my rearview.
Yes, that’s exactly what got me in the last lap of this one. I was so worried about the guy in my rear view mirror, I was watching him to make sure he was a safe distance away and completely missed my marker. The fact he was a lap down, was even more frustrating!
Don't you hate when back-markers still try to win the race lol , earlier today a back-marker tried to defend instead of letting me through after I flashed him so I put pressure on him to force him off the track
Ahh yeah it’s really frustrating. I usually pull aside and let a lapped driver behind unlap themselves, rather than risk them taking me out. But a few times lately, doing that has cost me positions on track… it allows the drivers chasing me to close in and, sometimes, dive through the same gap. So I tried to stay in front of the guy, but that didn’t work either… I got too stressed!
Great race with a bit of luck and a bit of skill staying out of trouble. I must say your LFM race videos are not a good advertisement for the driving standards in LFM. Makes me really wary of giving it a go again.
4:45 I don't really understand the rules here with overtaking under yellow flag. Does it just end right after you pass the spun car?
By the letter of the law, yellow flag rules are in place until you reach the next flag point, and the greens are being waved. So you can’t pass, even after the incident, until yiu see green. But these rules aren’t enforced in sim racing, so in reality, if you lift or slow down approaching an accident, you will either get overtaken or hit from behind 🤣
@@chrisrogerssimracing Yeah, to me it's quite strange, because there would be less incidents if people actually didn't race under yellow flags in simracing.
You may not have been the fastest car out there, but lap time is worth nothing if you can't keep it on the black stuff and pointing the right direction. If you want to finish first, first you have to finish.
Exactly. Not enough people realise that in sim racing. Particularly in ACC… there are a lot of VERY fast hot-lappers, who then struggle as soon as other cars are nearby. So many of the crashes in this race were simply caused by drivers getting too close to each other.
@Chris you seem to gather all the bad luck 😅
Haha, this is one of the few times it was an advantage to be slower. If I’d have been a bit faster, I’d have been closer to these guys and probably would have been crashed out 🤣
@@chrisrogerssimracing I really need to applaud you for your efforts👏🏻
I too struggle with silverstone. I think it’s because it’s flat and mostly featureless, not many reference points.
Yes, exactly this! I just can’t get into any sort of rhythm around there. It’s the same on any sim… even in RaceRoom, I struggle with Silverstone.
@@chrisrogerssimracing yep same. Sim is irrelevant, my performance is still poor.
Its one thing Hotlapping and another thing is race craft,they hardly ever practice alternative lines and braking points going side by side that's why there are so many incidents, no point doing a 59 in quali if you can't race side by side.
Yeah, exactly right. Pretty much every crash I featured on replays was caused by that exact issue… drivers not knowing how to drive closely with one another. Thankfully, I was so slow, I couldn’t keep up with them and didn’t get caught in any of it!
Rimskiy apologized for sending me.
Almost had you at the end!
Ahh that’s good. It looked like he waited for you to rejoin first too, which I always like to see. Haha yeah I was panicking on the last lap! Glad the flag came out… one more lap and you’d have got past me!
Yep it's weekend 😂
Haha yep. Won’t be any early morning videos for the next 2 weekends though, as I’ll be away on holiday 😎
@@chrisrogerssimracinghave a great vacation 😂
His internet was bad because girlfriend was binge watching Chris Roger’s in high definition
Haha possible, but unlikely 🤣🤣
Discretion is the better part of valor, and LFM.
🤣 very true
It’s not cheeky to overtake under yellow if the game has no punishment for it. That’s just playing the game
Yeah this is very true. I wish the sims could find a way to enforce it, as I do like to race by ‘real’ rules. RaceRoom has an option to add yellow flag rules, and we tried it for a while in community races. But it was flawed…would often force you to give a position back if you passed someone and they had a tyre just over the kerb, for example. So it didn’t really work.
Does incidents are horrible😮