Hope Kim gets well soon! Honestly, props to the her and the rest of the High Rollers for doing what needs to be done so that they could all play in this episode together without having to delay it for a week or anything. The studio is amazing, but I'm much happier with online High Rollers than none at all. In fact, when I clicked onto this video and saw their array with each of them in their windows, I felt a weird bit of nostalgia from when they started playing online and had their Far-From-Home Arc where they first travelled through space with Thalia. It was a rubbish time for the world but watching High Rollers was such a highlight of each week for me.
Mark, re: 49:21: Your crit rules are fine; they're exactly what my group uses. What happened was you added and maxed too many dice. If the maul (iirc is what it was last session) does 2d6(bludgeoning)+1d8(fire), then, with a level 17 Brutal Critical, it should have been 12+8d6+8+4d8+str. Instead, you did 48+8d6+5d8+str, maxing the 2d6 four times for an extra 36 damage, and then rolling more crit dice on top. Aila's strong, but not quite that strong. So yeah, a week late, but that's what happened. I think it's fair to blame the heat madness. Also, I appreciate leaving in the last 7 minutes.
Actually it's less than that. Brutal Critical only adds ONE extra weapon damage dice. This is the reason Barbarians favour great axes over great swords. Because a great axe has a D12 so Brutal Critical adds an extra D12 (3D12 at max level), but a great sword has 2D6 so Brutal Critical only adds a D6 (3D6 at max level). Brutal Critical is also completely separate from normal critical dice. It doesn't get doubled again, which I think you noticed that part. Brutal Critical also does not affect enchantment dice. So it has no effect whatsoever on the fire damage. So the actual total if it was all done correctly would be 12+5D6+8+D8+modifiers. You'd lose 3D6 and 3D8 (I'm not sure where you got the 6th D8 from to make 8+5D8...) They've been doing it wrong all campaign. Which is fine, it's their game to use whatever rules they want. I don't want to sound like I'm complaining or anything. Just clarifying the actual rules.
I can confirm this, I'm originally from Houston and it gets super muggy there. I will be the first to admit that I am a complete wuss when it comes to the cold. I'm not built for it.
Hope kim feels well soon! I finally caught it a little over a month ago, and that was a week of awful followed by a week of feeling pathetic. I was amazed at how long and slow the recovery is, you can't rush it.
I was gonna "remind" people that you can roll a 20 on a concentration saving throw, but APPARENTLY it's not an official rule in 5e that rolling a 20 results in an automatic save. That was apparently the case in 3e, but not 5e, although I've often seen people assume it.
1:36:20 What a moment! So many emotions in such a few amount of seconds--hope, anticipation, dread, exuberant relief! The smug smile on Tom's face knowing he had the ace up his sleeve was also priceless 😆
Best wishes to Kim! Great episode. It's been a while since the entire party was actually in danger. With a couple of rolls going a different direction we would've had a completely different outcome.
I don’t know about other people but one of my favorite things about high rollers is listening to Katie count her dice. Idk why but it’s just nice to her count lol. I don’t even like asmr but I would listen to Katie just count up her damage dice forever lol
Best wishes to Kim and I hope she beats the COVID infection without any trouble ^_^ As for the session itself, that was an epic, tough combat, and honestly, I am personally I fan of telling the story vs. playing the game plus I am of the opinion that the DM has the full right to adjust enemies on the fly, if that at all happened ;) Good session and keep up the great work!
If my information is accurate it is actually the opposite for the angels of celestia. They are immortal on celestia but when apart from it they can be destroyed.
Nova goes anime speed slashes. Aila comes in and home runs. DPS vs Tank right there. Sentry with divine smite can match that so that's a scary triangle to be in
About crit rules: It might make sense for the rule to be "regular 5e rules but you do also maximize just the weapon dice." At later levels players get so many extra dice to roll that maxing all of them is... a lot. Doubling all the extra dice as per normal rules seems like plenty of "oomph" on a crit. It'd also save you from rolling it all manually in the app, because you can just roll the dice as programmed for the crit and maximize the first roll after the fact. At lower levels my proposed rule would still make crits about 50% more impactful than in base 5e, and this will trend downwards as you get more sources to add on top. I don't even wanna see a 17th level rogue get a crit on a sneak attack with the all-maxed-dice rule lol.
Lol that crit with the new hammer is brooooken. They counted the damage for so long that they forgot to max the 4d8 fire dmg. It should’ve been 143 damage !! hahaha
On the contrary; it should have done less damage. The hammer (although I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a maul) does 2d6(bludgeoning)+1d8(fire), so it should have been 12+8d6+8+4d8+str. Instead, they did 48+8d6+5d8+str, maxing the 2d6 four times for an extra 36 damage. They use the same rules my group uses and you only max the weapon damage dice once, so that 4d8 would not have been maxed.
Star breaker HAS to be a Gurren Lagan reference right? Was that mentioned before? A green one handed Lance that grows and has broken the ground many times? AND they are both wielded by robots that go to space sometimes?
Mark's crit rules are fine, its specifically how you guys are handling brutal critical that's causing problems. If you guys were using normal crit rules, on a crit with the howling tempest, Aila would deal 2d10 damage for the hammer and would roll 3d10 additional dice for brutal critical. Instead, Aila's rolling 4d10 maxed plus another 4d10 (plus her lightning). She should get 4d10 maxed plus 1d10 additional damage because the brutal critical damage wouldn't get doubled with normal crits, so it doesn't make since that it does with these homebrew crits. Hitting for a minimum of 50 something damage on a single hit is still really damn good for a crit. Similarly, the maul should deal 8d6 maxed (48) + 2d6 for its base damage on a crit, not 48 + 8d6.
Whoever is updating the playlist for the entire second campaign, it keeps getting removed from my saved library everytime the playlist is updated. I have no idea why. Its insane.
Where I live it's in the 30 for most of the summer, sometimes as high as 40, but that's not so common. AND IT SUCKS!! I am pregnant and not handling this heat well at all! Thank goodness for air conditioning!!
1. Because they knew the celestial was necrotically infused, so the only way that would be eficient was if they found a radiant-infused fiend; 2. Because they wouldn't take the celestial without consent, and they clearly wouldn't want to be imprisoned again
Me at the beginning of this episode: I can’t wait for them to get their hands on that celestial so quil can cast planar ally and ask Gratz to give them a demon for a “quest”. Boom captured the beings needed for their ship and they get to keep them free of charge. Me at the end:🤦♂️ so close
I feel like they stopped using those as they came into the higher levels, maybe it slows the game down too much or because some of the earlier game was kind of a death march.
I know Mark had a lot of dissatisfaction with injuries on crits so he removed them, it could be he doesn't feel like 17th level adventurers should be worrying about injuries from 0 hit points instead of the Champion of Death.
I kind of feel like Mark was nerfing the enemies towards the end of the battle to keep from tpk-ing the party. And, that's fine. If you've played the same game "weekly" for 2 and a half years, it only makes sense to see the end of the story. I love you all.
I'd like to think it was the death knight's "malicious compliance" with his lady's order, because he couldn't stop fighting due to her influence, but perhaps he could fight unoptimally so that they have a chance to put her to rest
hey guys brutal critical only adds 1d6 not 2 with a 2d6 weapon and the fire isn't affected by brutal critical at all. So it would have only added 3d6 and 1 d8 on the crit
@@Ghillie_Monster sort of, they rolled 8d6 and added 8d6 maxed on top of the typical weapon damage, which would be like rolling 16d6 for brutal critical if they weren't doing their max + roll crit rules. It's questionable (to me) whether or not you roll the full 2d6 for greatswords and mauls or just an extra 1d6 for every level of brutal critical, but they definitely gave Aila a few extra dice there even if you are supposed to add the full 2d6 four times. I'd need to rewatch to be certain, but I'm pretty sure they've always done it like that, it's just a little less noticeable on the typical warhammer.
@@Pancakeli idk why I though of the quote (clearly modified) from Dirty Harry here, "Did she roll 6 dice or 8? Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself..."
It took six minutes to take down all those mobs? wtf? how long is it going to take to bring down a titan? like 10 minutes when it should be like 30 to an hour? what's up with the time flow in this game world?
Imagine that in a country with houses only built to hold heat in, that have no air con in, nor ceiling fans. It was like being stuck in a hot car at all times, where even being in the shade is just as hot. Not looking forward to a repeat of that this year. We’ve had brief stints of 14C this February, our Winter. This does not bode well for what summer will bring.
I get why Mark would Nerf Godrick to not TPK, but at what point do we disregard the rules and proper roleplaying altogether. Because if Godrick had the chance to kill all of them ,but didn't, then I don't get the point of combat if the antagonists are gonna let the protagonists live anyway.
i mean, didnt really nerf him. Godrick and the rest of the knights were manipulated against their will, and unlike War, Godrick had enough sense of self to recognize that those who beat the unbeaten warrior may actually stand a chance in repairing the damages they had caused. if anything, choosing not to strike down sentry and Quil was excellent roleplay/ story weaving.
if anything, the players should have been doing more damage, because i dont know that any of them were tracking Max's crusdaer's mantle, or his concentration on it
@@TheWearyAlkamyst most certainly not ever since the start of the show if things start looking bad Mark deliberately pulls his punches and “forgets” about players reusing already used abilities you can’t really blame him though this campaign has gone on so long it would be really lame if half the cast died before ever fighting Hadar if you wanna see what Mark plays like when he isn’t holding back watch Strahd
As much as it sucks Kim has The Thing TM, and that yall can't be in the studio...ill be honest, I've missed Trott being in charge of the tech.
Hope Kim gets well soon! Honestly, props to the her and the rest of the High Rollers for doing what needs to be done so that they could all play in this episode together without having to delay it for a week or anything.
The studio is amazing, but I'm much happier with online High Rollers than none at all.
In fact, when I clicked onto this video and saw their array with each of them in their windows, I felt a weird bit of nostalgia from when they started playing online and had their Far-From-Home Arc where they first travelled through space with Thalia. It was a rubbish time for the world but watching High Rollers was such a highlight of each week for me.
Mark, re: 49:21:
Your crit rules are fine; they're exactly what my group uses. What happened was you added and maxed too many dice. If the maul (iirc is what it was last session) does 2d6(bludgeoning)+1d8(fire), then, with a level 17 Brutal Critical, it should have been 12+8d6+8+4d8+str. Instead, you did 48+8d6+5d8+str, maxing the 2d6 four times for an extra 36 damage, and then rolling more crit dice on top. Aila's strong, but not quite that strong. So yeah, a week late, but that's what happened. I think it's fair to blame the heat madness.
Also, I appreciate leaving in the last 7 minutes.
Actually it's less than that.
Brutal Critical only adds ONE extra weapon damage dice. This is the reason Barbarians favour great axes over great swords. Because a great axe has a D12 so Brutal Critical adds an extra D12 (3D12 at max level), but a great sword has 2D6 so Brutal Critical only adds a D6 (3D6 at max level).
Brutal Critical is also completely separate from normal critical dice. It doesn't get doubled again, which I think you noticed that part.
Brutal Critical also does not affect enchantment dice. So it has no effect whatsoever on the fire damage.
So the actual total if it was all done correctly would be 12+5D6+8+D8+modifiers. You'd lose 3D6 and 3D8 (I'm not sure where you got the 6th D8 from to make 8+5D8...)
They've been doing it wrong all campaign. Which is fine, it's their game to use whatever rules they want. I don't want to sound like I'm complaining or anything. Just clarifying the actual rules.
Can't wait for you guys to be back in the studio and i hope Kim gets better soon.
Funny enough Greylano did actually make potions on the ship when she first got added, I think either that changed or they forgot
The nonchalant, “someone has Covid, can you guess who?” Made me laugh. But I seriously hope you get better soon Kim.
Also the the healthiest character has the most unwell player, irony man gotta love it.
So this is why random magic items wind up in random places.
Oddly enough, I love seeing them back online! Seems like the familiar setup to me at this point. I didn't even notice when the stream started lol
As a Texan I have 3 fans in my room on me at all times. I feel ya. Constant 40c around where I live so FUN!
As a fellow Texan I understand the pain
Southern Arizona, right there with ya
Oof!
Yeah, no. Dealing with that through the summer is bad enough.
I can confirm this, I'm originally from Houston and it gets super muggy there. I will be the first to admit that I am a complete wuss when it comes to the cold. I'm not built for it.
This battle is a master class on making high level D&D challenging. Kudos Mark.
The rest of the HR team, brilliant RP.
Hope kim feels well soon! I finally caught it a little over a month ago, and that was a week of awful followed by a week of feeling pathetic. I was amazed at how long and slow the recovery is, you can't rush it.
I was gonna "remind" people that you can roll a 20 on a concentration saving throw, but APPARENTLY it's not an official rule in 5e that rolling a 20 results in an automatic save. That was apparently the case in 3e, but not 5e, although I've often seen people assume it.
1:36:20 What a moment! So many emotions in such a few amount of seconds--hope, anticipation, dread, exuberant relief! The smug smile on Tom's face knowing he had the ace up his sleeve was also priceless 😆
I want Max to have that hammer. 😔
It's a mace, but me too
Wonder if he channel the fire like the orc horseman?
Feels perfect for him as he would resist/negate the automatic fire damage to the wielder.
1:44:55 Rubbin that chest
2:02:46 Gotta catch em all
2:26:21 We peer into Post-game talks again :)
Best wishes to Kim! Great episode. It's been a while since the entire party was actually in danger. With a couple of rolls going a different direction we would've had a completely different outcome.
🎵For one day soon, the dawn will come🎵
I don’t know about other people but one of my favorite things about high rollers is listening to Katie count her dice. Idk why but it’s just nice to her count lol. I don’t even like asmr but I would listen to Katie just count up her damage dice forever lol
Hindsight is 20:20, but it seems like Mark was begging them to capture the celestial for the drive?
Maybe
I've just ordered my baseball T. I cant wait for it to arrive.
LMAO! i cant stay for the show right now but i needed to see what Mark was gonna do for the intro! Im a big fan too!!
Hope Kim feels better soon. covid is a sonovabishhh. this episode was also tense as hell! can't wait for the next weeks
So, when is Kim doing a Dead Space-esque miniseries using Waystar? That would be so much up her alley.
Best wishes to Kim and I hope she beats the COVID infection without any trouble ^_^ As for the session itself, that was an epic, tough combat, and honestly, I am personally I fan of telling the story vs. playing the game plus I am of the opinion that the DM has the full right to adjust enemies on the fly, if that at all happened ;) Good session and keep up the great work!
Marks Ara Ara is my favorite thing ever
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@@hades_head_empty bro. This is from two years ago. How am I supposed to remember?
1:27:03 What a great use of a cantrip!
If my information is accurate it is actually the opposite for the angels of celestia. They are immortal on celestia but when apart from it they can be destroyed.
Nova goes anime speed slashes. Aila comes in and home runs.
DPS vs Tank right there. Sentry with divine smite can match that so that's a scary triangle to be in
That was a TENSE fight
About crit rules: It might make sense for the rule to be "regular 5e rules but you do also maximize just the weapon dice."
At later levels players get so many extra dice to roll that maxing all of them is... a lot. Doubling all the extra dice as per normal rules seems like plenty of "oomph" on a crit. It'd also save you from rolling it all manually in the app, because you can just roll the dice as programmed for the crit and maximize the first roll after the fact.
At lower levels my proposed rule would still make crits about 50% more impactful than in base 5e, and this will trend downwards as you get more sources to add on top.
I don't even wanna see a 17th level rogue get a crit on a sneak attack with the all-maxed-dice rule lol.
Sentry: And that is my last 3rd level smite.
A real shame how right she was.
Lesss gooo the dono section is back this week! 🙌
Lol that crit with the new hammer is brooooken. They counted the damage for so long that they forgot to max the 4d8 fire dmg. It should’ve been 143 damage !! hahaha
On the contrary; it should have done less damage. The hammer (although I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a maul) does 2d6(bludgeoning)+1d8(fire), so it should have been 12+8d6+8+4d8+str. Instead, they did 48+8d6+5d8+str, maxing the 2d6 four times for an extra 36 damage. They use the same rules my group uses and you only max the weapon damage dice once, so that 4d8 would not have been maxed.
Heck yes!
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Star breaker HAS to be a Gurren Lagan reference right? Was that mentioned before? A green one handed Lance that grows and has broken the ground many times? AND they are both wielded by robots that go to space sometimes?
It absolutely is. The City of Glass was originally called Kamina city.
@@onyxfeathers oh my god you’re right
Mark's crit rules are fine, its specifically how you guys are handling brutal critical that's causing problems. If you guys were using normal crit rules, on a crit with the howling tempest, Aila would deal 2d10 damage for the hammer and would roll 3d10 additional dice for brutal critical. Instead, Aila's rolling 4d10 maxed plus another 4d10 (plus her lightning). She should get 4d10 maxed plus 1d10 additional damage because the brutal critical damage wouldn't get doubled with normal crits, so it doesn't make since that it does with these homebrew crits. Hitting for a minimum of 50 something damage on a single hit is still really damn good for a crit.
Similarly, the maul should deal 8d6 maxed (48) + 2d6 for its base damage on a crit, not 48 + 8d6.
1:42:21 did anyone else get the United States of Smash theme in their head at this moment? 😁
Great as usual!
Whoever is updating the playlist for the entire second campaign, it keeps getting removed from my saved library everytime the playlist is updated. I have no idea why. Its insane.
This fight definitely was on hard mode!
To Kim: in the campaign that I do with my friends, we just say gfb.
Oklahoman here, 32c (98 ish f) is not fun, especially when it's humid.
Where I live it's in the 30 for most of the summer, sometimes as high as 40, but that's not so common. AND IT SUCKS!! I am pregnant and not handling this heat well at all! Thank goodness for air conditioning!!
are they still using injury table?
I assume not. They haven't done injuries for any of the downs in the last few episodes.
2:02:48 'Gotta catch 'em all' eh? Funny you should say that, because I'm starting a Pokémon campaign with my friends next week
Kim is baaaack!
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Why not bind the celestial for the ship?
1. Because they knew the celestial was necrotically infused, so the only way that would be eficient was if they found a radiant-infused fiend;
2. Because they wouldn't take the celestial without consent, and they clearly wouldn't want to be imprisoned again
Me at the beginning of this episode: I can’t wait for them to get their hands on that celestial so quil can cast planar ally and ask Gratz to give them a demon for a “quest”. Boom captured the beings needed for their ship and they get to keep them free of charge.
Me at the end:🤦♂️ so close
all i have to say about most of this episode. O.O!!!! lol Amazing
1:41:57 Great use of a cantrip part 2!
cool
Are they not using the injury rule’s anymore? A bunch of them went down but no con saves were made.
I feel like they stopped using those as they came into the higher levels, maybe it slows the game down too much or because some of the earlier game was kind of a death march.
I know Mark had a lot of dissatisfaction with injuries on crits so he removed them, it could be he doesn't feel like 17th level adventurers should be worrying about injuries from 0 hit points instead of the Champion of Death.
@@mme.veronica735 That’s fair.
I kind of feel like Mark was nerfing the enemies towards the end of the battle to keep from tpk-ing the party. And, that's fine. If you've played the same game "weekly" for 2 and a half years, it only makes sense to see the end of the story. I love you all.
I'd like to think it was the death knight's "malicious compliance" with his lady's order, because he couldn't stop fighting due to her influence, but perhaps he could fight unoptimally so that they have a chance to put her to rest
@@slendertataGames exactly, I totally bought any “Nerfs” because of that in-game explanation.
Why do none of you have spare the dying????
Come to Central Florida or Southern Florida you get used to the heat real quick
1:04:34
hey guys brutal critical only adds 1d6 not 2 with a 2d6 weapon and the fire isn't affected by brutal critical at all. So it would have only added 3d6 and 1 d8 on the crit
Brutal Critical levels up as the character hits certain milestones. They were right here.
@@Ghillie_Monster sort of, they rolled 8d6 and added 8d6 maxed on top of the typical weapon damage, which would be like rolling 16d6 for brutal critical if they weren't doing their max + roll crit rules. It's questionable (to me) whether or not you roll the full 2d6 for greatswords and mauls or just an extra 1d6 for every level of brutal critical, but they definitely gave Aila a few extra dice there even if you are supposed to add the full 2d6 four times.
I'd need to rewatch to be certain, but I'm pretty sure they've always done it like that, it's just a little less noticeable on the typical warhammer.
@@Pancakeli idk why I though of the quote (clearly modified) from Dirty Harry here, "Did she roll 6 dice or 8? Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself..."
It took six minutes to take down all those mobs? wtf? how long is it going to take to bring down a titan? like 10 minutes when it should be like 30 to an hour? what's up with the time flow in this game world?
well DnD Rounds are 6 seconds each that's just base rules
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32 degrees? That’s the average summer day in Australia. Also known as a pretty good day.
Imagine that in a country with houses only built to hold heat in, that have no air con in, nor ceiling fans. It was like being stuck in a hot car at all times, where even being in the shade is just as hot. Not looking forward to a repeat of that this year. We’ve had brief stints of 14C this February, our Winter. This does not bode well for what summer will bring.
Awwww the shirt isn't available in my size ;~; Y DO HEF B FAT?!
I get why Mark would Nerf Godrick to not TPK, but at what point do we disregard the rules and proper roleplaying altogether. Because if Godrick had the chance to kill all of them ,but didn't, then I don't get the point of combat if the antagonists are gonna let the protagonists live anyway.
i mean, didnt really nerf him. Godrick and the rest of the knights were manipulated against their will, and unlike War, Godrick had enough sense of self to recognize that those who beat the unbeaten warrior may actually stand a chance in repairing the damages they had caused. if anything, choosing not to strike down sentry and Quil was excellent roleplay/ story weaving.
if anything, the players should have been doing more damage, because i dont know that any of them were tracking Max's crusdaer's mantle, or his concentration on it
@@TheWearyAlkamyst most certainly not ever since the start of the show if things start looking bad Mark deliberately pulls his punches and “forgets” about players reusing already used abilities you can’t really blame him though this campaign has gone on so long it would be really lame if half the cast died before ever fighting Hadar if you wanna see what Mark plays like when he isn’t holding back watch Strahd