[Epic Seven] Rank 1 Guild Wars - Talentless vs Paladia
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:01 1st atk prep
3:52 1at atk (chiam)
10:50 2nd atk prep
13:09 2nd atk (Fribbels)
14:45 3rd atk prep
17:0 3rd atk (Fribbels) - เกม
Am confused, what could he have done differently? The Ran literally proc R&L like 5 times
Get gud
And i thought i was unlucky...that was some bs
Kill senya first tbh
@@nathanaelsteven5309 Except the Senya wasn't the problem. He wasn't getting provoke locked or anything. It was the Ran proccing RnL and criting the Destina multiple times in a row.
He didn't know Rans arti when he decided lilias first right?
"To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is depend on the enemy RnL proc."
- Sun Ran, The Art of RnL
15:14 Fribbels, the legend optimizer himself !
there is no reason to apologize. love watching your videos
u a real one gabgon
Big shoutout to your second attack target, Fribbels really is the GOAT with that gear optimizer
Bigger shoutout to his third attack target, Fribbels really is the GOAT with that gw team builder
Glad to see you're feeling better Vik
thanks maxwell!
We love you, man! You're awesome ❤
thanks eryko! :)
that RnL gave me ptsd from violent runes in summoners war,,,, i dont wanna think of that again ever…
Imagine the future where you have to consider killing Ran first just so you don't get randomed out.
No need to apologize brother, that RNL proc was insane
That RnL proccing would immediately disintegrate my hairline, props to you
Okay, finally got some time off and I can enjoy this video! Hollllly! That Ran!! In hindsight, or if you knew it was R&L Ran and giga damage Lilias beforehand, would you have picked different units to attack that 2nd wave? Did your guild take the W?
I really enjoyed this vid!
we won luckily - for sure if I had info I would choose a new comp
Thanks for the vid!
ViknPals good name for a guild if you ever see another insane R&L proc to loss. I'll keep watching you either way bro.
RnL was crazy, ty for the vid!
thanks for always helping with the algorithm GDP!
I like you, thx! Now I'm attempting to make a GW def with Ran, Senya and Lilias xD
I had a similar situation, I took fire Ravi against Belian, Senya and Peyra, because it is known that Ravi can solo these losers. And then Peyra's RnL started to activate every turn, even several times in a row.... Poor Ravi, I shouted Stop, Stop! He's Already Dead, but no one heard my shouts except the neighbors. This defeat left me deeply traumatized.
Ravi against that team sounds bonkers does that really work lol
@@dondanana9573 Against Peyra without RnL it worked. Ravi+Ras+any healer. Let me clarify that we are talking about the fire Ravi, not the fake one
LMAOOOOO I am getting flashback of peira hwa meta - peira rnl s2 s3 s1 dual atk hwa u insta lost ggs
the guild vikchun & friends would kinda sound awesome tbh xd
love your videos! love the flex!
LOL thanks
Ain't no way that Ran. Omg that was brutal vik-san
3:57 such a fan service 😂 you really know your viewers. But btw, your comp to counter Nak is very a good idea.
thank you!
Such a good video flex into flex into flex!!
thanks l8 :)
Awesome fights. Love the content.
thanks nighthawk :3
I did infact enjoy thank you for your time
aye!!! we love the videos my dude! also, the damage calcs are sick af, is that a limitless thing? or can anyone find that?
anyone can use damage calculators
click this link: e7calc.xyz/ehp-calculator/ehp-calculator.html
then > damage calculator on top left
Oh shit, Shirtless Vik. Let's fucking go!
LMAO
Notification gang haha shirtless vik is back!
That RnL Ran on the 1st round was messed up man. Crazy luck
I really hope they don't kick you for that insane RNG. Sure, as you mentioned in the comments there might have been some minor adjustments but Ran getting x2 R&L 2 turns in a row and critting an Earth unit 2 times in a row is insane. Plus, vision is always 20/20 looking back. Sorry things were rough today. Keep up the awesome work Vikchun!
Noooooo they won't kick me I'm just trolling around but that is crazy rng I can't remember the last time I got r&led 5 times
@@vikchun Oh thank goodness! Yeah that was beyond insane. Makes me feel like I shouldn't complain about my RNG when stuff like this has happened... 🙀
was about to say hahahah@@vikchun
My guild is only around top 500, but the following comp has worked well for me against Ran Lillias Senya.
Mediator Kawerik, AoL on proof, and ML Belona on counter set with Sigurd Scythe.
Senya first
Ran second high eff stigma cuts your war horn
Lilias push EE full dps torrent
pretty much death =[
Do u get to vote to replace the leader from guild or does he get a easy pass because that won't be fair on other been kicked because they made mistake and the leader makes a huge mistake and he is not voted out because he as a veto
no we don't replace the leader that would be hilarious
Hello, vikchun. First time on your channel. Damn, you guys have it rough up there, but I guess that to be expected from top guild. I wanted to share my approach on chiam's second team and a little criticism on your comp. I have only 4-5 fights against that comp but all of them are successful. So, the team is Zio + Jack'o + ML Bellona:
1) Zio pushbacks Ran with S3 and Jack'o pushes forward (speed tune Jack-o to your Zio so she gets turn even if Ran 15% the pushback)
2) Jack-o kills Lilias with S3, pushes Bellona forward and gets extra turn
2.5) Use Jack'o S1 to attack already debuffed Ran - even on miss this definitely kills Ran because she also procs S2 extra with debuff on Ran. It has to be on Ran because if you ignore him, he might get RnL after his silence
3) Bellona uses S3 to kill Senya
Key moments: ML Bellona needs to have some speed and tuned to take turn after Jack'o S3 push so she can cut Senya AND on damage arti like portrait of saviors or draco plate to one-shot Senya. Jack'o needs to be on Merciless glutton to further increase her S3 push - this is extra help if Bellona is a bit slower. Zio needs to be on bloody rose - together with chains of chiron, he will have 3 chances of landing debuff (basically extra layer of debuff, in case Ran 15% 1-2 debuffs)
This is pretty straight forward team, aggressive, fast, doesn't require souls. Now, since I'm not top player, one could argue that it won't work in your cases but I think the idea is at least worth a try. Maybe you guys could test it in mock battle among yourselves to get the feeling, maybe polish the rough edges if you have them.
Now, about the criticism about your approach - you were giving up a bit too much on 2 things: spd and 3rd member. The speed difference between your comp and opponent's comp is too big. It's almost double. Even without this particular case, imo giving your opponent twice of your own pace is asking for to be overwhelmed. With defense rng factor, it just comes faster than you anticipate, almost every time. Then Christy. Although she was there to boost your defensive capabilities, you put her in position where she can't survive long enough. You were already on slower side and by making her easy target to be quickly eliminated, she became your liability instead of boost.
Appreciate the long write up - I agree with the criticism for sure. The comp wasn't that good at all.
In addition, your suggestion wouldn't get past a comp check because of the following reasons:
1) like you said, 15% resist debuffs + pushbacks - (unlikely but it's happened)
2) 2x holy sac (senya + Lilias) - we've seen this before and run this in our defenses
3) dodge artifact ran causing you to miss altogether (ideally to counter zio baiken arunka)
4) hilag lance Lilias > Zio S3 into ran but fast Lilias on hilag lance cuts infront of your Jacko (also a trap to counter zio cleaves)
Those are a few just to mention but I hear your comp - I would send this shit on my alt in T30 but when were only allowed to have 4 draws per war - we want to minimize our chances of losing as close to 0 as possible
@@vikchun ohhhhh, wow. yeah, I get it - those are pretty solid arguments. evasion Ran, double holy sac knights - things not seen in lower tiers since people go for optimal choices because of limited resources as in stats and artifacts. even the hilag anti-Zio knights kinda rare, cuz normal folks would rather put their fast gears on Rans, Peiras etc. to push for the 300 threshold. now that's why you guys are top - cooking all that weird shit lol.
@@Etrema_YBT yeah, the cooks are endless and is really rewarding when you get a green shield from all the testing we do vs each other
Bro, was that second fight against THE Fribbels?
Yes :) Fribbels is awesome. They seem to have an impersonator though so I can never really tell which ones the real one anymore
Wouldn't Beni/Abi/Rimuru (With enough bulk on Beni to not procc Abi passive from Ran s3) work well enough?
Or would the comp be deemed to risky?
He did try out Beni Abigail comps in the pre season but they were all pretty shaky
too risky if you're scouting
I've had my fair share of Ran BS RnL procs, and been focusing him ever since. I felt so frustrated on your behalf on that absurdity
That ran woke up and chose violence
That Ran took it personally
Hey Vikcuhn I hope you read this, I have a question regarding your first attack with Atywin. I also tried to use him yesterday to get rid of the Bind debuff right away and enrage me and that worked great only to find out I was skill reset on him so I cant press his s3 and Rage buff lasts 1 turn so after I s1 I lose my rage and then this shit monk was cycling so fast by the time my passive was up again to get enraged she resetted me once more. and again and again. What the fuck, did you get lucky not getting reset? What if you also got permanently stuck in a scenario where you can never press s3 on Atywin?
Yeah, he did resist. In this comp it wouldn't have mattered cause Charlotte was doing a lot of DMG anyway, she is the key to the comp since she always crts and doesn't get affected by increase cool downs
of course I read this! I read every single comment posted man.
part of my answer from previous comment:
- charlotte has rlly high dmg
- atywin can def break on 2nd rotation
- roana s3 still available
- infinite cr glitch from charlotte getting countered
even if somehow your atywin gets lapped (which I doubt because at that point that might just be gear gapped), your charlotte is still going to do enough dmg + you have roana s3 for insurance still
Yasss we love a bara daddy
for the first fight, what if atywin gets reset and roana gets sealed? not sure if you can get enough tempo with just charlotte dishing out damage without def break there
doesn't matter I think
- charlotte has rlly high dmg
- atywin can def break on 2nd rotation
- roana s3 still available
- infinite cr glitch from charlotte getting countered
Hmm idk... realistically I would expect roana to get reset as well, so in absolute worst case, Landy can still pop off an s3 before roana gets a second turn
Not saying I have any better ideas to deal with nahkwol though if I try to think in absolute worst case, everything loses
@@AcelShock I don't disagree - some bad rng + gear gap can probably ruin you but that would apply to any team - the team I used seems to be ok until further notice :p
He is back and stronger than ever
nice content with the Ran RnLs
Aside from Ran’s first two turns…it was R&L. Holy guacamole. The tilt and rage would be so strong with me.
How important do you think nahkwol will be for gw? I dont regret getting green lilias, but the new girl looks insane
Get her mate, she shuts down alot of units or at times entire teams
I had to pity lilias so im all out of everything, id rather avoid spending cash on her but if shes truly a must pull or whatever ill see about grinding then topping off the rest of pity
I'm going to make a video on Nakwhol and post for tomorrow. It'll go over builds/compositions/how to approach/etc
@@RanPizzalilas broke me I spent $29 ($24) after google play coupon and this unit is insane lol. Felt good clapping candy
@RanPizza I wouldn't spend money for her. She's not a limited unit so you could get her off the covenant summons if lucky.
Clicked for my husbando Ran 😏thumbnail, stayed for the real beefcake😍
Ran Never Loses
My man is putting in the work and he's proud of it. If you grind the iron you know.
:salute:
is it that bad to be in talentless? just because of a bad rng proc?
reposting from another comment
With all jokes aside, Talentless is a really good community to be in - I make a lot of jokes about being "kicked" or "replaced" but that shit never happens around here. We've gotten a bad rep over the years (not really sure how since it was before my time) but I can say the 29 other guys I play with are some of the most knowledgeable/awesome people.
ah I see
Ran went wild
Oof that was rough RnL luck.
Also Paladia is my sister guild! Hello from Mizfits!
Hello! Make sure they know I love their defenses and all the time spent behind closed doors thinking of solutions :D
that R&L was nasty
Наши любимые проценты никого не щадят.
Many essays were written about RnL, but never was a tragedy done so perfectly. I shall dub this the infamous "Great RnL tragedy" by vikchun
Also I hate nahkwol but id love to see what the cooks come up with for her on def. Cant wait to see 1 mf put her on symbol and bind water units
LOL you could also use Andre's Crossbow now - never thought I'd say that
@@vikchun I actually forgot about that artifact even tho i actively use it on briseria LMAO
Came here for the guild war. Stayed for the muscles.
Thanks Izzy :)
huge fan from Barcelona. Arkadia 3 leadear, we already faced last season (ended bad for us) hahahaha cheer up!!
Thank you ragemode! Hope ak3 is doing good!
BRO THE FLEXIN CRACKS ME UP EVERYTIME
D:
Damn, that ran was PISSED
Mashle 0:42 5:04 13:22 17:41 and nip + Mashle 3:58 . Hey guildmate, look at this 19:27
LMAO pain back at it with timestamps
Thank you!
VIIIIKCHUUUN
9:17 this is the reason why i quit Summoners War
the extra proc from runes were so high that no matter what team you had, it could solo you
wish i could live to the day when SG finally balance this arti like at least when it procs it shouldn't lower the cooldown of any skills
Bruh, rnl doesnt reduce cd wtf u smoking? What the arti does is gives another turn.
@@johnsummer5825that's what i meant. if you get extra turn from arti proc, it shouldn't let you do another s2/s3
@@Sinnersslayer what u want is extra attack not extra turn which dust devil do but it only procs on basic skill
dont be hard on yourself. we grow from failure brother.
that is very true I learned a lot this gw
I remember a Baiken doing that to me
OHH SO THATS REALLY YOU GOT INTO OF SERVER?! I THOUGH OF SOMEONE ELSE :( I WANT TO BE ON THIS VID TOO :(
momchun cameo batchest
Anybody would know the stat on the crazy Ran ?
nope but it's cracked
A tywin counter the new op charac ?
seems pretty good in the video don't you think so?
thats only bcs ur a tywin resist the debuff no ? i think light domi with the new buff is better @@vikchun
nice content bro.
thanks seven!
Love that you cater your Asian fans. hahahaha. Happy flexing and E7!
I love all my fans :D thanks MMD
daddy Vik
the thing did you stay in TL1?^^
of course :3
I can't wait to compete against you... a little boring though, tbh with you. Other than that... pretty good 👍
SwoleVic
Beautiful int
pause awit
If Vik & Friends ever becomes a thing I'll be the first to join 💪😤🤳
(Why tf isn't there a left arm flex emoji...)
because we only zerk off with the right arm :stare:
@@vikchun Speaking of zerking, it just wasn't possible today cause both hands were being used to reroll secret shop for Nahkwol right after Midlias drained me dry 😔
Truly is the no zerk meta when non limiteds are must pulls
Glad to see you've recovered. Love the muscles 😂❤
WE BACK
Effectiveness is real on damage gear 😂😂😂
someone help? Why did he farm wyvern 1 foor that 27 helm?
Technically, Midnight lilias wants to have as large as a health pool discrepancy between her (no hp) and her opponents (about 16k hp difference) as possible to 1 shot more units.
Helmet gives flat hp as main stat.
It's cope.
@blights2520 damn, thats cool. Ty!
thank you for explaining on my behalf
@@blights_ok, so this strat can be used for hwayoung right?
Epic Seven and nips in the morning, what more can you ask for? ☺
Brasilll. 🎉
Wait...👀
Pain peko...
update: He got kicked from his guild. rip
wouldn't senya have been the threat? the lilias did so much damage because of the gab on senya. in hindsight the ran proccing infinite RnL was bogus.
think if I played that fight back, the smart play is to not use this comp.
but if I got thrown in with the comp and no other choices - probably dc s3 into ran to avoid being r&l over and over and over and pray my destina can tank out lilias
@vikchun I like the beni, rimuru, abigail you used some weeks ago. I also like the sez bomb.
I think the comp you chose wasn't the wrong comp , but RnL definitely had more than a 20% chance.. it's the Ai defense buff, I swear.
I asked about senya because there have been a few other fights (other videos) where you'd leave her alone, and frankly, I'm terrified of that unit, so given the opportunity she'd be my first pick.
i definitely want in on vikNfriends if you get tossed lol
LMAO they won't toss me but maybe when i retire I'll make it happen
0:47 Nip slip if anyone is interested😂
This ran infinite RNL 😂😂😂
RAN NEVER LOSES
Ran had to flex his own. He had enough of your stuff 😅
Vick how much you weigh bud
198 lbs as of this morning
Ran +70 RNL xD
Don't be so hard on yourself on that one loss. There's not much you can do about 5 RnL procs. You could have done a couple of things different like you commented elsewhere but hindsight is a bitch, we love you still!
thanks corey, I appreciate that man
RIP HoF
I always vote to keep Vik in talentless because I know if he gets kicked then my time will come shortly after
LMAOOOOOO
looks like a good guild that would kick you for rnl rng xD #feelgoodguild xD
Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Thought i won't see no ridiculous violent procs from sw, but that Ran proved me wrong. No apologies needed for that since that rnl is just pure bs.
damn people just casually have A.Lot at 287. i have only 2 fast unit, Ran at 300 and cilias at 285 XD
Omg RnL crazy, and you said kill Ran dont change anything 2 seconds later proc 10 R&L
I spoke too soon
Chouuuuuu will mix ran
You know... As a former Summoners War player, seeing E7 players cringe and rage at one, ONE, artifact that grants extra turns is kind of hilarious xD
Yea, i just run Elena/Aria/Karina into those ran defenses senya defenses lol. I've never seen an RNL proc that fucking much that's stupid.
Interesting comp but you'll die to senya first > high eff ran > Lilias s3 EE
@@vikchun i have yet to run into a ran that debuffs my elena so that hasn't been a problem, the s3 ee doesn't matter either cuz of invul from elena unless the lilias is just outright slower than all my units which i haven't seen yet and I run doctors bag so any stray debuffs get cut off. I let lilias waste her s3 since Karina and aria are gonna usually be slower than her. After that Karina does s3 with or without def buff to spread the dmg and aria just kills them all from counters/fairy tale procs.
Alternatively, I use rimuru instead of Karina to steal immunity from ran, i have him speed tuned to cut ahead of my Elena on s2. He does s3 on senya to halve her hp or more. Elena puts up invul and then same thing for aria, just let counters + fairy static dmg kill. It's what I've had success with to say the least, but im not Fighting top 30 guilds constantly so i get what you're saying lol.
My Elena is a speed/Er build, i think the worst that can happen is a lilias being faster than her naturally and on cr push EE.
@@vikchun I've also seen my guild mates use stuff like Aol + Handguy(ml kawerik) + LCBellona. I think how it works is aol takes the s3 from ran, cr pushes, does s2 to cleanse and skill null in case of rnl and pray u don't get rnl'd twice in a fucking row. She does s3 and just turns them all off barring 15%. Kawerik puts up his usual stuff and LCB I assume kills lilias first cuz she's really the biggest problem there imo after ran's debuffs are removed.
At this point gw are more like if rng let you win or not.
some rng involved but totally avoidable with better comp
The best team to deal with ran lilias and senya is krau destina and aria it always works for me even if ran rnls
I don't think your team survives
The problem is that Talentless fights the top guilds with high end gear.
You get hit with a 300 eff Ran, 7k atk Senya plus 350 cd Lilias and you are dead
@@Belkak021 yeh that thing is killing my entire team