wallhacks on druid is absolutely broken, and does not belong in the game. Sure like you said you can hear people, but that just gives you an IDEA of where they are and its not exact. Whereas the druid can literally see exactly where you are on the minimap and through walls. In any pvp game giving wallhacks is just too strong imo especially on a class that can run away and engage on its own terms like druid.
Yeah bro at the very least there should be some sort of messaging that tell you that you are being scanned by a Druid. I can’t think of a game with wallhacks that doesn’t alert you when being scanned
@UnitedSAReich I’m a tank class but a good Druid is still good. Very high mobility, if they run two trees they pretty much have infinite shield and when u get them low they’ll just turn and run
i bet u didnt play druid, it dies with 2 hit even if u ambush the player. specially tanky class like frost skeleton guy and fighter is nightmare for him, also some smart assassins killing u easly
So Rogue is actually wrong in this. Currently there is a second tier for dex and if you get over 100, Xbow does over 500 dmg a shot + poison + 400+ ms + petrify on shot. In pvp leaderboard, fighter is like the first 5 places, and then 200-300 kills under it was pyromancer/rogue ((competing)). Death Knight is better than fighter if the tank is full. STR gives a 20 essence death grip, the will gives a heal on soul consume, 14 per 1, so a 144 heal. Grab is used largely as a heal. The aura can do 46 dmg a second for 8 seconds. Or the toggle one can be up to 34. Essentially it has more survival than fighter. Currently the meta is Druid-Cyro. Cyromancer with Storm's fury and frost bite does over 1000 dmg every 4 seconds. Sword master won the tournament on pvp. it's the only class that has the ability to 1 shot even a tank. it has a 96 dr too when done right for 8 seconds when whirling blade has it's stam perk
@@MyBadWili Largely because it's only 25 gold per bolt, and it out performs potions, keep in mind. Solo rogue like this is only REALLY seen in Classic and Casual Castle. It does not perform as well in Sinner due to it not being as open. Castle has a lot of invisible mesh, like on the other crenellation of the tower in grave yard, ect. Rogues and so on can stand on it and free shoot while being mostly hidden. Along with the random ladders they can climb to wall run. Sinner doesn't have that.
@@ildirimnize9372 idk i've seen a cracked out rogue wipe a entire lobby in sinner but he had the right gear to do it reaching the breakpoints for stats and the right set. Rogue is somewhat of a kiting play style like you said and castle def is it's home turf but ive seen it been done in sinners and it's scary encountering a good rogue you are pretty much dead if they know what they are doing.
@@MyBadWili I've not seen that yet, but I also only do it in Trio, and we run Pyro/Fighter/Rogue, and we keep to halls. So that is probably why I've not hit it yet
Fighters can also heal themselves with the "rage ability", kinda. You get 30% life steal super strong with the stamina passive ( 200 shield on ability use )
Agree with your list for the most part. Only thing I would change is I put cryo in first on A tier or even possible S tier. If you build cryo right, you can win almost every fight with almost full hp or not even get touched at all.
@@tilter24 personally I think Frostbite curse with ice armor with atleast permafrost and frostbite passives. Combine that with a staff (personal preference I like the fire staff on cryo) and a dagger with thunderclaps. Spam frostbite curse, throw the daggers to get crits which do well over 100 damage a hit.
the problem is Priest is not to meant playing alone but I think you could make him better when you give him attack skills. Maybe like in WoW you can choose between a healing Priest and a DMG priest where the dmg Priest doing shadow dmg with attack skills and the healing priest is what he is now.
Cool video but you really need to search some Cryomancer and Swordmaster fights on youtube. Swordmaster: Deflection (36 Stamina): Whirling Blade grants -50% damage reduction. That's really broken and while active you really can't do much. Also next week the Druid will take a big hit the developer anounced. So for now S tier is Druid, Cryomancer and Swordmaster. DK is a solid A. Pyro the same. But you need to be careful not to waste that E. Rogue if you really know when to take fights. Evaporate and Venom are crazy good in the right hands. In B we have the Fighter. Whirlwind only catches the new players of guard. Even with the shield from Weapon Mastery that's really not enough. DK (Death Knight) it's just a better fighter in all aspects. That leaves us with Priest. C tier. And that's too bad. Has great synergy in 2-3 team comp but in solo really struggles. That's it from me. Al least in my opinion. Wish you the best!
The problem with the druid is that you don't do any damage. You can ambush low health players and finish them off or chip away at their health bar that will regenerate fast with potions. Other than that you can almost always run away in your pussycat form I guess. But you're going to have a hard time killing anything FAST.
I agree with this, I absolutely despise how weak both the druid and the rogue are. There should be no classes in a PVP extraction game that cannot stand up to another class in a 1v1. I get that fighter classes that focus more on melee will be stronger in a melee fight but they really need to add something for the weaker classes so that they can stand a better chance. They really need to go back to the drawing board and think about rebalancing a few of these classes. I haven't even tried out the priest yet because of how terrible I've heard it is.
@@7anctified wtf, druid is literally the strongest class rn. They can combo most classes from 100-0 real fast. Youre just not skilled enough to see it. Thunderflask>Tree>Lightning staffX2>Panther rush or dagger skill>dead
@@tomleet All that extra stuff just to kill another player in a 1v1 ay? That's a shame. It's extremely easy for me to get kills as a fighter or a death knight because of how OP THEY are, but as far as druids go, they can't stand up to a melee class in a 1v1 without all those extra steps. I rarely ever use those throwable potions as I have never needed to use them to get kills as fighter or death knight classes.
@@tomleet My point being, It takes much more to kill someone as a druid than it does for most of the other classes in the game. Edit: I should also mention that I'm killing druids left and right, how is this so if they are apparently the strongest class in the game? lol
@@7anctified My friend, trust me on this: If you see a good druid you will instantly change classes and never go back to fighter/dk. That combo he described will literally 100-0 a juiced fighter, you just havent seen it. Btw, Rogue can do ~800 dmg with 2 cb shots if build right, but Druid combo is even stronger when tree 2x hits for 300dmg each. Build crit chance and %dmg with druid and allways use 2 staff. Play classic and see how fun Fighter vs Druid is. Druid = highest burst dmg in the game(yes more than pyro easily)
Druid has great mobility. Avg dps, extremely low health, low armor. If you're putting them in S tier just because of wall hack and the leap ability...then this shows a bit of bias. In a 1v1, druid is out classed by fighter, death knight and sword master. The druid can beat pyro, priest and rogue. This in itself puts druid middle of the road. Once you add in team play, there's no reason to take a druid over a priest.
@@Aegis19731 druid if kitted correctly does not only insane dmg, but can never be touched by anything that it doesnt want to fight ever due to insane mobility. You can burst somebody down with a druid EASILY if you play it right lol. They dont lose a 1v1 to anything unless you are just trying to sit there and melee in cat form against classes that are melee fighters? Priest obviously in solos is Z tier but even in team fights they are very lackluster and at best a C tier option.
the wallhack is busted... shouldn't apply to rogues if anything... also, rogues need another passive for will that allows your stealth to teleport you behind a target
man... swordmaster kill everything right now... u just cant kill him with his 50% dmg reduction... u say turn into panther and run away... but if u got hit with a bottle that slow you? u are done... i play swordmaster and i can say that druid is annoying, but i never feel like i am afraid of it.... they just run around.. most of the fights ends like they run or get killed
Yeah swordmaster is a weird one, because that 50% reduction is pretty broken, but at the same time if people spend that time kiting and blocking, SM becomes pretty middle of the pack. Might need some tweaking on that perk and I think they would be average
@@samroscoe944 kiting and blocking after you have been half healthed by ranged attack that slows you with a fast melee fighter (if kitted right swordmaster can move almost as fast as a rogue) MEANWHILE this super fast melee fighter is in your face doing insane dmg and taking almost no dmg since you can get 50% dmg reduction from stam perk and also other reductions. So a good swordmaster can hit you with this in seconds meanwhile taking no dmg and doing insane dmg. Yep. Just kite and block. EZ.
@@droskiwayad3767 yes I see your point, I suppose it's just because I main a Cryo and DK, so kiting and blocking are my main strengths. I can see how some classes would definitely be subject to punishment... I guess my point was, if you can find a way to avoid Trading during their E, then it becomes a pretty balanced fight. I think their E needs a slight NERF, but the rest of the class seems in about the right balance. I'm not a good player and often find myself stuck regearing my character, but it is rarely from SM deaths.
Whats the point in having 5 categories and only using 3-4? How can you honestly expect anyone to believe that fighter, DK, and Pyro are just as good as Swordmaster & cryo? And you didn't even mention that the swordmaster takes 50% less damage when he uses his E??? The real list is Druid S, SM & Cryo in A, and everyone else can be moved down 1 letter.
lol the fact that you state the words "Real list" and still dont have rogue in S tier along with druid and swordmaster automatically dismisses all arguments you have.
@@EranM I have loads of success on rogue solo, people run the wrong kit. You bring in shielding flasks and petrify at half health, then pop a shielding flask and a healing pot while opponent is petrified and you are unbeatable when they break out.
@@BowMonkey71 druid is getting hit with a nerf supposedly and based off of the feedback sounds like rogue is also but info is hard to find since game is still so newish.
I watched someone aggro the werewolf boss and couldn't help myself but to paralyze the guy with a crossbow. Boss went ham on him and was so satisfying to watch I never went back. Rogue for the win! :)
the fact that you have rogue in not only the S tier.....but fucking B tier????? Super sus rogue is easily the best class in game in any game mode at any time, also having swordmaster in anything but S tier is a joke. I'm thinking you main rogue and sword master and just dont want them to get nerfed lol. Only explanation. Also a custom tier for priest the "Z" tier needs to be made. Everything else I agree with.
@@yannikreiche6402 😂 daggers and crossbow lol same as pretty much every other rogue build. I'll admit it's better in the castle map then the other one but with that said, rogue with 90+ dex can just crossbow somebody for 400 or more DMG it's totally busted, meanwhile moving like the flash. There's just no counter to it unless you happen to get super lucky and box a rogue in which does happen but if they know what they are doing it doesn't happen often.
The only time rogue is "B tier" is if they sit there and try to win a melee fight against a melee class like fighter/swordmaster/DK but if they use their insane movement speed they never have to get close at all they just stone poison crossbow you, get range, reload, headshot you, rinse and repeat and it only takes like 3 shots at the most if you have decent aim and hit headshots
My duo partner/Friend only plays Priest refusing to play any other class and its terrible. I Usually extract and win solo games and I mostly lose in Duo's... Priest needs a Buff !
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wallhacks on druid is absolutely broken, and does not belong in the game. Sure like you said you can hear people, but that just gives you an IDEA of where they are and its not exact. Whereas the druid can literally see exactly where you are on the minimap and through walls. In any pvp game giving wallhacks is just too strong imo especially on a class that can run away and engage on its own terms like druid.
exactly. If anyone needs wallhacks its definitely not the fastest and the most get out of jail character.
Yeah bro at the very least there should be some sort of messaging that tell you that you are being scanned by a Druid. I can’t think of a game with wallhacks that doesn’t alert you when being scanned
@@carterfn5939i agree its broken but you play too much r6 bro
@UnitedSAReich I’m a tank class but a good Druid is still good. Very high mobility, if they run two trees they pretty much have infinite shield and when u get them low they’ll just turn and run
i bet u didnt play druid, it dies with 2 hit even if u ambush the player. specially tanky class like frost skeleton guy and fighter is nightmare for him, also some smart assassins killing u easly
So Rogue is actually wrong in this. Currently there is a second tier for dex and if you get over 100, Xbow does over 500 dmg a shot + poison + 400+ ms + petrify on shot. In pvp leaderboard, fighter is like the first 5 places, and then 200-300 kills under it was pyromancer/rogue ((competing)). Death Knight is better than fighter if the tank is full. STR gives a 20 essence death grip, the will gives a heal on soul consume, 14 per 1, so a 144 heal. Grab is used largely as a heal. The aura can do 46 dmg a second for 8 seconds. Or the toggle one can be up to 34.
Essentially it has more survival than fighter. Currently the meta is Druid-Cyro. Cyromancer with Storm's fury and frost bite does over 1000 dmg every 4 seconds.
Sword master won the tournament on pvp. it's the only class that has the ability to 1 shot even a tank. it has a 96 dr too when done right for 8 seconds when whirling blade has it's stam perk
Now this is a person who knows what it's talking about. Really nice reading your comment! 👍
Rogue is actually super broken once you have the gear imo the strongest solo rn.
@@MyBadWili Largely because it's only 25 gold per bolt, and it out performs potions, keep in mind. Solo rogue like this is only REALLY seen in Classic and Casual Castle. It does not perform as well in Sinner due to it not being as open. Castle has a lot of invisible mesh, like on the other crenellation of the tower in grave yard, ect. Rogues and so on can stand on it and free shoot while being mostly hidden. Along with the random ladders they can climb to wall run. Sinner doesn't have that.
@@ildirimnize9372 idk i've seen a cracked out rogue wipe a entire lobby in sinner but he had the right gear to do it reaching the breakpoints for stats and the right set. Rogue is somewhat of a kiting play style like you said and castle def is it's home turf but ive seen it been done in sinners and it's scary encountering a good rogue you are pretty much dead if they know what they are doing.
@@MyBadWili I've not seen that yet, but I also only do it in Trio, and we run Pyro/Fighter/Rogue, and we keep to halls. So that is probably why I've not hit it yet
Fighters can also heal themselves with the "rage ability", kinda. You get 30% life steal super strong with the stamina passive ( 200 shield on ability use )
Agree with your list for the most part. Only thing I would change is I put cryo in first on A tier or even possible S tier. If you build cryo right, you can win almost every fight with almost full hp or not even get touched at all.
Yeah I was surprised he didn't give a nod to the frost shield
What’s the best solo cryo build and weapons?
@@tilter24 personally I think Frostbite curse with ice armor with atleast permafrost and frostbite passives. Combine that with a staff (personal preference I like the fire staff on cryo) and a dagger with thunderclaps. Spam frostbite curse, throw the daggers to get crits which do well over 100 damage a hit.
And obviously mix in some thunderclaps and using the staff. Just make sure you also are using the ice armor on yourself
Solid videos/content ... and pretty sure you've smoked me at least a few times in-game. Keep up the great content, man.... it's great!
the problem is Priest is not to meant playing alone but I think you could make him better when you give him attack skills. Maybe like in WoW you can choose between a healing Priest and a DMG priest where the dmg Priest doing shadow dmg with attack skills and the healing priest is what he is now.
I always enjoy watching the videos man. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!
Rogue is #1 on solo leaderboard right now. Just saying 😅
It’s cause of crazy crit builds lmao I can output 1000dmg rn with mine with ease
@@whopperwhopperjuniordoublewait for real??? What kind of stats should I build besides crit chance
@@tilter24 you want strength and dex make sure to get 93+dex with atleast the first perk on strength but if possible try and get the other one
@@tilter24 and btw to get max crit run 4 swords at atleast blue rarity it makes your crit chance 97+ percent when with other gear
@UnitedSAReich high crit and dex= ridiculous dmg
Cool video but you really need to search some Cryomancer and Swordmaster fights on youtube.
Swordmaster: Deflection (36 Stamina): Whirling Blade grants -50% damage reduction. That's really broken and while active you really can't do much.
Also next week the Druid will take a big hit the developer anounced.
So for now S tier is Druid, Cryomancer and Swordmaster.
DK is a solid A.
Pyro the same. But you need to be careful not to waste that E.
Rogue if you really know when to take fights.
Evaporate and Venom are crazy good in the right hands.
In B we have the Fighter. Whirlwind only catches the new players of guard. Even with the shield from Weapon Mastery that's really not enough. DK (Death Knight) it's just a better fighter in all aspects.
That leaves us with Priest. C tier. And that's too bad. Has great synergy in 2-3 team comp but in solo really struggles.
That's it from me. Al least in my opinion. Wish you the best!
The problem with the druid is that you don't do any damage. You can ambush low health players and finish them off or chip away at their health bar that will regenerate fast with potions. Other than that you can almost always run away in your pussycat form I guess. But you're going to have a hard time killing anything FAST.
I agree with this, I absolutely despise how weak both the druid and the rogue are. There should be no classes in a PVP extraction game that cannot stand up to another class in a 1v1. I get that fighter classes that focus more on melee will be stronger in a melee fight but they really need to add something for the weaker classes so that they can stand a better chance. They really need to go back to the drawing board and think about rebalancing a few of these classes. I haven't even tried out the priest yet because of how terrible I've heard it is.
@@7anctified wtf, druid is literally the strongest class rn. They can combo most classes from 100-0 real fast. Youre just not skilled enough to see it.
Thunderflask>Tree>Lightning staffX2>Panther rush or dagger skill>dead
@@tomleet All that extra stuff just to kill another player in a 1v1 ay? That's a shame. It's extremely easy for me to get kills as a fighter or a death knight because of how OP THEY are, but as far as druids go, they can't stand up to a melee class in a 1v1 without all those extra steps. I rarely ever use those throwable potions as I have never needed to use them to get kills as fighter or death knight classes.
@@tomleet My point being, It takes much more to kill someone as a druid than it does for most of the other classes in the game. Edit: I should also mention that I'm killing druids left and right, how is this so if they are apparently the strongest class in the game? lol
@@7anctified My friend, trust me on this: If you see a good druid you will instantly change classes and never go back to fighter/dk. That combo he described will literally 100-0 a juiced fighter, you just havent seen it. Btw, Rogue can do ~800 dmg with 2 cb shots if build right, but Druid combo is even stronger when tree 2x hits for 300dmg each. Build crit chance and %dmg with druid and allways use 2 staff. Play classic and see how fun Fighter vs Druid is. Druid = highest burst dmg in the game(yes more than pyro easily)
Duel wield sword fighter with the new Q ability is really good
The pyromancer can heal himself with the E
*heal and he can only do it when you got the passive
Druid has great mobility. Avg dps, extremely low health, low armor. If you're putting them in S tier just because of wall hack and the leap ability...then this shows a bit of bias. In a 1v1, druid is out classed by fighter, death knight and sword master. The druid can beat pyro, priest and rogue. This in itself puts druid middle of the road. Once you add in team play, there's no reason to take a druid over a priest.
No the class is the most broken shit in the game
Stop trying to argue the class you play isn't busted as hell
@@Killerblutak Stop trying to argue that it is. See how that works? How about use facts and not your feelings.
@@Aegis19731 druid if kitted correctly does not only insane dmg, but can never be touched by anything that it doesnt want to fight ever due to insane mobility. You can burst somebody down with a druid EASILY if you play it right lol. They dont lose a 1v1 to anything unless you are just trying to sit there and melee in cat form against classes that are melee fighters? Priest obviously in solos is Z tier but even in team fights they are very lackluster and at best a C tier option.
@@Aegis19731 No
the wallhack is busted... shouldn't apply to rogues if anything... also, rogues need another passive for will that allows your stealth to teleport you behind a target
man... swordmaster kill everything right now... u just cant kill him with his 50% dmg reduction... u say turn into panther and run away... but if u got hit with a bottle that slow you? u are done... i play swordmaster and i can say that druid is annoying, but i never feel like i am afraid of it.... they just run around.. most of the fights ends like they run or get killed
Yea, they do barely any damage and are squishy as fuck. If you're a coward it's a great class to play though.
Yeah swordmaster is a weird one, because that 50% reduction is pretty broken, but at the same time if people spend that time kiting and blocking, SM becomes pretty middle of the pack. Might need some tweaking on that perk and I think they would be average
@@samroscoe944 kiting and blocking after you have been half healthed by ranged attack that slows you with a fast melee fighter (if kitted right swordmaster can move almost as fast as a rogue) MEANWHILE this super fast melee fighter is in your face doing insane dmg and taking almost no dmg since you can get 50% dmg reduction from stam perk and also other reductions. So a good swordmaster can hit you with this in seconds meanwhile taking no dmg and doing insane dmg. Yep. Just kite and block. EZ.
@@droskiwayad3767 yes I see your point, I suppose it's just because I main a Cryo and DK, so kiting and blocking are my main strengths. I can see how some classes would definitely be subject to punishment... I guess my point was, if you can find a way to avoid Trading during their E, then it becomes a pretty balanced fight. I think their E needs a slight NERF, but the rest of the class seems in about the right balance. I'm not a good player and often find myself stuck regearing my character, but it is rarely from SM deaths.
panther removes debuffs... you simply panther out of the bottle that slows you, n00b.
With all the reasonings you gave, the priest should be D, Rogue C, Pyro and Fighter B.
I'll tell you in trios a good priest can make your team unkillable.
Rogues can't really 1v1 without a suprise backstab sure, but they are ungodly PvE farmers
I would Pyromancer in B
Tree-ant.
Whats the point in having 5 categories and only using 3-4? How can you honestly expect anyone to believe that fighter, DK, and Pyro are just as good as Swordmaster & cryo? And you didn't even mention that the swordmaster takes 50% less damage when he uses his E???
The real list is Druid S, SM & Cryo in A, and everyone else can be moved down 1 letter.
lol the fact that you state the words "Real list" and still dont have rogue in S tier along with druid and swordmaster automatically dismisses all arguments you have.
Rogue shines in solos not groups, honestly rogue is S tier in solo or at least A
rogue is F tier. complete failure. Ranger without ranger skills
@@EranM trollin super hard your class getting hit with the nerf bat soon 😂
@@droskiwayad3767which class?
@@EranM I have loads of success on rogue solo, people run the wrong kit. You bring in shielding flasks and petrify at half health, then pop a shielding flask and a healing pot while opponent is petrified and you are unbeatable when they break out.
@@BowMonkey71 druid is getting hit with a nerf supposedly and based off of the feedback sounds like rogue is also but info is hard to find since game is still so newish.
Druid is for no hand players
I watched someone aggro the werewolf boss and couldn't help myself but to paralyze the guy with a crossbow. Boss went ham on him and was so satisfying to watch I never went back. Rogue for the win! :)
the fact that you have rogue in not only the S tier.....but fucking B tier????? Super sus rogue is easily the best class in game in any game mode at any time, also having swordmaster in anything but S tier is a joke. I'm thinking you main rogue and sword master and just dont want them to get nerfed lol. Only explanation. Also a custom tier for priest the "Z" tier needs to be made. Everything else I agree with.
whats the super sus rogue build?
@@yannikreiche6402 😂 daggers and crossbow lol same as pretty much every other rogue build. I'll admit it's better in the castle map then the other one but with that said, rogue with 90+ dex can just crossbow somebody for 400 or more DMG it's totally busted, meanwhile moving like the flash. There's just no counter to it unless you happen to get super lucky and box a rogue in which does happen but if they know what they are doing it doesn't happen often.
The only time rogue is "B tier" is if they sit there and try to win a melee fight against a melee class like fighter/swordmaster/DK but if they use their insane movement speed they never have to get close at all they just stone poison crossbow you, get range, reload, headshot you, rinse and repeat and it only takes like 3 shots at the most if you have decent aim and hit headshots
My duo partner/Friend only plays Priest refusing to play any other class and its terrible. I Usually extract and win solo games and I mostly lose in Duo's... Priest needs a Buff !
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