What To Expect Retiring In Thailand
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2023
- What to expect when retiring in Thailand from a western country. Thoughts on climate, various sub-cultures and popular locations, dating, scams and scammers, money and cost of living. A retirees perspective. #marriage #thailand #dating #isan #korat #retire #travel #pattaya #scammer #kohsamui #khonkaen #women #thaigirl #bargirl @VagabondAwake
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Retire in Thailand guys it’s awesome. Nice video mate😊
I wouldn’t go on camera either. Why would I care to be in front of a TH-cam audience?
Disagree about Koh samui as well
I have been coming to Thailand for about 30 years and spend quite alot of time there so know what its like; can speak and read Thai, etc. If you are new to Thailand or Phillipines or anywhere else cheap and good for retirement then the best advise I could give is don't rush into anything, don't commit or over commit to anything and certainly don't spend alot of money on anything until you know where you are at and are sure you want to stay long term. At a minimum give it a couple of years before making any big investment (money, relationship, commitment, etc). If it does not work out, and you followed what I suggested, then its easy to move on and try something else. We have a house in a village near KK and its Issan and we built the house about 15 years ago.
That’s awesome. Thank you for sharing
Sir, you mentioned that you were in Isan and on a 'tight budget' may i ask you how much....Just trying to put a stake in the sand to get a feel as to what is a tight vs good budget. Keep up the honest and straightforward videos....quite refreshing. Cheers
So, IME, the Isan Region is mostly a lower cost area of Thailand. So, here, about $1,000US/ mo. Would be very tight but do/able, and $1,400 would be tight but fairly easy to live well on , and $1,800 would be comfortable. At about $2,700/ month you are wealthy here. All of this assumes a reasonable additional savings of $100,000 - $250,000 US for necessary big purchases like car, furniture, etc as per your requirements. This also assumes you’re helping in some small way a Thai woman for companionship.
Excellent spot on insights. Thanks for producing this video.
You're mostly right about many farangs here running away from something. Hence the farang genepool to pick some friends from is limited .
I live in Chiang mai,just bought a home we are currently moving into . The welcome by Thai neighbours is unbelievable .
Yesterday axrerired Thai guy came over ,very helpful with garden equipment,invited me to his home,gave me a tour of his house,every nook and cranny, very open in terms of personal info and was the same with a retired lady down the street . I came across a number of business people we're buying household items who spoke English ,very fair prices and also very open about personal infos,familyvetc.
Even about Thai politics. I think the Lanna culture up here, as you said also different, and the place is very organised ,good townplanning,roads and absolutely wonderful temples unique even in Thailand . I never experienced any scams here. This is my Shangri-La. Only one draw back is 3 months of the burning season with pollution. Even the expats are better types than down south .
It's a culrured and artistic city with museums. Even a Museum of Contemporary Art. Beat that! They established that among hundreds of years of Lanna culture .
About time women ,other than scammers.. yep,impossible to go back to Western women. Thai women still maintained their femininity while many Western women became ballbusters. Excuse the generalisation.
I met a good group and quality of westerners here in Hua Hin by joining the Rotary Club here. But I do agree most of them aren’t worth your time.
Yeah that has been my single biggest disappointment here.
@@BillonBassHi Bill,just found out about your virtuoso guitar talents.. There are some places in Chiang mai where jamming is available., If you fancy a trip to the mountains.
Great country Thailand been there 5times cheap place girls are great better than westerns girls from Scott new Zealand
Hi, just found your video, loved it subscribed right away. I'll watch the rest, all of them actually. I love good calm vibe that you have... very similar to my american husband. I'm thai by the way, we are thinking, planing,collecting info to retire in Thailand. I have been in the us over 20 years.. sadly to say I'm used to Thailand anymore. You mentioned Muk da han, I will check that out. Thank you for your videos.
Thanks Robb..really appreciate your insight..
Thanks. Useful and witty
I lived and worked in Bangkok for five years and I became very cynical about Thailand. Particularly Bangkok. Lots of corruption lots of poverty lots of pollution lots of superficiality. It just got to me. Living outside of Bangkok hopefully would be a different experience.
I hear you 100%. Can’t say I’d feel a ton Different. It’s hard to say. I see a different side of things here but I also see it through Fawn vs how that could be a totally different issue with someone else or on my own.
You are truly excellent on camera. Bravo!
Wow, thank you!
Been to Koh Samui many times. Can’t say it’s another Pattaya. Not sure where you heard that. It may have a red light area or two but it’s definitely not in your face there. I’d even consider living there. You hear a lot about the Full Moon parties but those don’t even really take place on Koh Samui, but on Koh Pha Ngan and not very frequent. I would say Phuket in Patong is a bit more like Pattaya. Though Pattaya is in a league all it’s own when it comes to the seedy side of Thailand. If you want to head up north then go really far up north and check out Nan! Beautiful area! Heading to Da Nang for a vacation in a few weeks! First time visiting there.
You’re right about Koh Samoi - I forgot to say certain areas are not and the rest is MUCH classier. The available services are the same tho-😉
Plz report on Da Nang. I’m super curious.
@@resetwithrobb Haha yes those services are pretty much available anywhere in Thailand. Even here in Hua Hin where we aren’t really known for that stuff there are a few areas where there are such bars and you see the same types hanging around them. It’s just not in your face here. Excited about going to Vietnam. A lot of history there for us Americans.
I was shopping for a place to settle down a few months ago and went all Koh Samui, definitely not like Pattaya at all, its more of a wealthy person island. The tiny area of the west side of Phuket is a mini Pattaya, including the insane traffic.
@@BrianTe-wt2xli found the same that it is definetly more expensive. That said if budget or a certain lifestyle is driving your choice than of course more restricted selection. Personally I would not choose to live in the south, and the north and east more my path of how I live.
@@smileoften-ft3hq I am not too restricted on budget, I just meant on Koh Samui you can see modern mansions all over. I think its a popular place for the very affluent.
Ah interesting, are you also in Isan then? What do you like about it?
Good to hear u r recovery I know what you r going through I had a mojor stroke 8years ago and I am still fighting it my plan was to retire in thiland I will keep fighting it
Thumbs up 👍 Robb
Good vid
Not sure everyone is hiding from something. I am Canadian (still living in the great North, but planning my retirement in SE Asia), and I flat out hate social media and won't have pictures of myself out there or appear on videos either.
I’m usually half-joking about guys being on the run, however, there’s some guys that I mean really seem to have some issues.
Im not leaving Australia soon because of problems, im just sick and disgusted with its modern culture of alcohol, piracy and deceit. I got kneecapped in a costly divorce to where i got so much fake sympathy from family and so called friends. But in 3 years ive knuckle down, taken huge risks with speculative trading on start up companies (in lithium lol) and ive not only restored my wealth but im set for huge growth next ten years. I plan to retire at 54 in Thailand by years end, based near Bangkok and the airport, learn Thai and travel periodically to all the places around the world ive dreamed of seeing. As much as parts of Thailand do have underbellies, its the culture and community that i am drawn to. Im keen on a Thai girlfriend all in good time, but will tread carefully. Lots of sick buffalo there lol. Your channel, Dan at Vagabond and others have been good to watch while preparing. Keep it up!
Thank you and congratulations on moving forward successfully
Just spit it out, man! You have some valid points to make, so stop trying to be so PC about it. But great honest content and presence overall. Kudos 👏
You had me cracking up... maybe you'll have an expat friend who's reasonably sober, coherent and won't make a scene at the restaurant. And trying to get one to do an on camera interview is next to impossible, I mean what did they do? 😅 Funny thing is, I get it. I worked internationally most of my career. Came across more than a few drunk and/or questionable expats scattered about the globe. Thanks for being frank and honest about expat life!
Thank you. Yeah, it’s like what Usanee said. I meet an actual normal expat and HE’S like gold that can walk…..555
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Stylistically, I'd prefer to "retire" in Jomtien than up North- because I'm not married, it's closer to beach, closer to Bangkok's main airport, and I'm not purchasing a home. Hua Hin would be 2nd. Re- the nonviolence, from what I sense fr. overcharging & general energy, the tourist area tuk tuk drivers and taxi guys (males, non-Grab/Bolt) seem as if they would throw hands @ the drop of a hat (or dispute of a fare w/ farang). But the country is exponentially safer than the U..S. Even in a relationship, I can't see myself living in Issan. But Bangkok is too large f/ me- I prefer a convenient middle. Now- the smooth brown complexion of Issan women- another story
Try places around Chiang-Rai or Muk Da Han or Ubon. I’ll probably end up jealous- 555.
@@resetwithrobb Hmmm. I'll look. I'm here for a month. Back in September
Thanks for this informative, down to earth, video. I'm chatting with a Thai women, living in Roi Et, and just wondered what to expect. This has taken away some worries I had. Not sure, at the moment, if she comes to me or if I move over there. We'll see. Do you have anything information about the cost of health insurance ? Heard that can be expensive.
So far cheap but doesn’t cover a lot. Me and many of my friends get a minimal policy and self insure. $1,000-1,300US for a year?
@@resetwithrobb Preferred companies for that ? In the Netherlands it is not that expensive so I am curious. Will do some more research 👍
Thx. Google and (cringing) I say you can also ask various expat fb groups. Some groups are nice and some aren’t.
@@resetwithrobb Thnx, am searching 👍
Interesting vlog, Robb!
I’m married to a Thai lady and live in the country so I’m the only Farang within miles and I love it!
yeah. Isn’t that weird, though. I mean I have no idea why I feel that way but I do…..
Spot on Robb! Great show! Been going to Thailand for 12 yrs. Alway's start out in Korat then venture out from there. I usually go twice a yr
Just got back home to Michigan. Your right our roads suck. As alway's stay cool,kind and generous!
Welcome, brother MIchigander!
12 years! Why do you choose to start in Korat? I am exploring my long term options, haven't been up to Isan yet but always curious about experienced opinions.
Initially interested in Korat as I was (correctly) told its mostly a Thai business city, fewer expats and more “real” Thai culture. That’s proven true. I also like the lower cost and really like the lower cost and quieter suburbs
@@resetwithrobb You might need to dumb that down a little for me lol
I am not familiar with the term "Thai business city" and why that's a benefit really.
I am guessing "real" Thai culture means no tourists areas?
Ah, I do understand lower cost and quiet, I home base in Bangkok and its pretty much bonkers all the time.
What say you other Michigander?
Michigander- someone from MIchigan.
Korat is a city for the purpose of thIs doing business with other Thais. Tourism never figured into the calculus. So there fewer expats even in the city, and very few once you get outside the city limits.
What about riding the area maybe as a couple...u do know many married guys here on ur site.. couples outing
What is the name of the book you wrote. See if it was on Amazon. I wanted to order it.
It’s in the link in all my new videos. Title is How to retire and date in Thailand.
G'day Robbo, how are ya mate?
Hi.Check out Ban Grood.Just a beautiful place to be.
what kind of visa do u have
Hir Robb the parallels here are similar I just learned this lady I know here in NAmerica had scammed 2 men for a house a car a new furnace etc hhhha yet was trying to get guys on the side quietly while she strung those suckers along !!!
Wow
@@resetwithrobb yessir and one of the doors she was knockn on was mine hhhhhhha
This year I am going to retire in Khon Kaen 😃
The guys there love it. Big medical school there too.
I am looking at Nakhon also
it’s a nice place. I like it. And for travelers it’s a reasonable hub to many places.
Does anyone sport fish in lakes or rivers there?
I can tell you fishing in general is extremely popular here. Extremely.
How about Buriram for retirement
I know rather little about Brewery room, I know it’s a big motorsports town, because they have a huge stadium for that there, and soccer is a really big deal there. I believe it’s a little more expensive, and has a much higher percentage of the foreign retirees, which my personal bias is, that I just don’t care for that.
Yessir Robb it's a rare breed that can function in front of 📸 like yourself. I'm hiding from nothing here in 🇨🇦 😄😄
Rural but close to a town would be the best !!!
Thank you for the nice comment. Yes, I can understand people not wanting to be on camera, many people do not want to do that. But I’m telling you, man, that, as soon as anyone open the camera, a lot of these guys scatter like rats off a sinking ship. It seems like an awfully extreme reaction.
Samui another Pattaya? You've got to be kidding!
up here that’s the prevalent attitude. of course they’re not really similar at all. just some of the available services.
Why camera shy is considered having some issues? Nonsense.
Maybe it just hit me wrong/ I thought it seemedodd that no body is willing to be on camera? I just didn’t that would be so hard.
Robb, I'm noticing. Thailand is losing it's culture, traditions and authenticity. Because a lot of foreigners are bringing the toxicity, disrespect, disruptive, chaotic, vanity and entitlement behavior to that country. It makes me angry a little bit to see at one point in time. This was such a renowned country. So saving face doesn't even matter any longer. Because the love of money has trumped all the integrity and dignity, the thai people use to have....😢
Definitely heading that way. I think Thailand has done a better job of keeping it’s culture than many places, but even I can see it’s lessening over time. Another value of living out here; more of that is still alive and well.
also Robb, my potential wife lives in Nakhon Ratchasima, Sikhio district.
Your potential wife lives what I would call outside of the core south area, as you probably are very aware of. I find Rob reports much more on the dramatic side of life and the fast progress areas such as where he is. If you want a more older thai culture style it is there. My potential wife lives outside Phang Khon in a village and the culture although very saturated with sugar and coca coca, lol, is the rural life of old Thai and Laos. So depends what you plan to do.
Thx. Yeah- I am very keen to get up there. Super curious to see it. Thought I think that’s too far from my regular hospitals ATM.
@@resetwithrobb 10 years left imo
I have been living off and on in Thailand for 56 years and the most amazing thing I have seen was the stupidest things I have seen my fellow foreigner do with it came to Thai woman. To put it into a nutshell they would do for a Thai woman what they would have never dreamed of doing the same thing for a woman from their own country. Most common things is marry a Thai girl and paying a crazy dowry and in many cases the Thai bride came with 3 or 4 kids from her previous Thai husbands or boyfriends.
Then the second thing I often see it the family moving into the home of the foreigner and he is supporting them, now how often in America or Europe have you seen a man take in and support a wife and her family. Even a mother-in-law moving in is frowned on. Buying the brides family cars, motorcycles, loaning money to the brides family knowing it will never be paid back and one of my favorites taking the family out on the insistence of the bride to your birthday dinner at at expensive restaurant and having to pay the bill and not even a birthday card, but when it is the brides relative's birthday you are expected to pay for the dinner and provide a expensive gift (or money that is preferred)
In other words if you marry a Thai woman expect the brides family to be included for the life of the marriage.
My advise is if you come to Thailand make sure you have plenty of money. don't expect that you are going to live like a king on your Social Security. Yes you can survive but you can survive in your home country. But also keep in mind that with the American economy on the verge of collapse your pension or Social Security may also collapse, better buy a one way open airline ticket back to your home country just in case being in Thailand without money is not a good thing..
So you have money, you saved and have a lot of cash, great, I did too. First I did not even get a Thai girlfriend, I rented a nice house and I hired a maid. Made sure that the maid was ugly and married already just incase I got drunk and did something stupid (I didn't). The maid kept my house cleaned, washed my clothes, and did a lot of my shopping for me since she got a better price for things.
For companionship I did the bar scene picked up women here and there once I learned where they were at and learned what to pay. And believe me these girls cost me far less than a Thai wife would.
If you survive being single for a couple of years and then get married to a Thai girl, after a year or so add up your expenses are after a year and then what were your expenses were before you got married you might be in for shock.
My strongest advise is to pay attention to how Thai men treat their wives you might learn a thing or two.
ceremony but did not get a marriage license. You can do that too.
Now if you really are getting tired of the bar scene and want to settle down with a nice Thai girl that is educated you might look into teaching English. For some reason the best marriages that I have seen in Thailand have been the man teaching English and his wife as a student. Usually these girls are well educated and want to improve their skills for a better job.
Man, That is ALL really good advice. I have started to watch my payments and make sure i’m not “cooking my own goose”. Thank you for sharing.
@resetwithrobb After 24 years and hundreds of women between, Saigon, Bangkok, Singapore and Jakarta I did marry a Thai girl 23 years younger than myself, I was working as the site manager on the construction of a papermill 27 years ago . You probably use the p
aper from it. "Double A". l was asked by the local hospital to teach English to the staff there twice a week for an hour. My wife was one of the staff having just graduated from medical school. Now 25 years later, she is a division manager at our local hospital, making over $40K U.S. a year. She is the main breadwinner now. Just joking. I retire at 67 very well off, but money is the very last of our worries.