Do you Need Different Converters?

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  • @gabet3754
    @gabet3754 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You’re my favorite audio engineering vampire.

  • @RAZALAHORI
    @RAZALAHORI ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been watching gear related videos for a while now, and i noticed that some people have a hard time understanding that people like david are running a business. All this expensive gear helps them bring more customers in and it makes their job easier saying stuff like converters are useless or gear is useless is just dumb its like telling a concert guy that he doesn't need a mixer because he can mix it in wheelbarrow lol yes its possible but it'll take forever to finish 1 driveway and it'll look really bad

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🙏

    • @AdviceandAdventures
      @AdviceandAdventures ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No one is knocking the nice stuff that actually makes a huge difference. Equalizers, compressors and tube/transformer saturation devices.
      But when it comes to converters well... There is a point where the audio dust is being sniffed.
      Especially if you abuse the brick wall limiter settings... It's like buying the best circular power saw and then making inprecise cuts simply because you can.

    • @RAZALAHORI
      @RAZALAHORI ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @AR7271 i was just saying what i saw in the comments of lots of videos, but if someone is buying a 3k convert, then they are abusing it they shouldn't be buying it imo even if they have to think about the purchasing it few times it just means the business isnt there yet im saying it strictly in business point of view not whats good and whats bad i noticed high end engineers have very very expensive setups im sure some devices are just their dream toys that they always wanted which is also cool 😉

  • @iamcrisis187
    @iamcrisis187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Vox chain Sony c100>BAE 1073MPF>Manley ELOP+>Burl B2ADC
    2 Bus - D-Box+>Heritage SYMPH EQ>Heritage Successor>Burl B2ADC
    Love my Burl!

    • @officialjoeynelson
      @officialjoeynelson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My vocal chain circle audio 251 > bae 1073mp > bluey > golden age comp 2a > burl b2bomber adc
      SSL summing , spl vitalizer Burl b2 bomber adc
      Monitor system crane song avocet

  • @madmuso5
    @madmuso5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember my first "holy shit" moment with converters years ago.
    Nearly 2 decades ago my first audio card was an RME pci card that you plugged directly into. Once I had the cash I replaced it with the RME hammer fall 9652 and Apogee AD16x. It blew me away and I still have that same setup with ADI8 doing DA. Converters definitely make a difference and make life easier.

    • @davidcache
      @davidcache ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rme for the win. I use the hdspe aio for aes, adi2 pro FS, for mastering chain, and ucxii for my 500 rack. I've never had a single hiccup, and i fully trust what the music sounds like

    • @madmuso5
      @madmuso5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidcache RME are great. I borrowed an adi2 once (the then newer blue ones) and to my ears it sounded better than my older adi8 that I use. Only reason I kept the adi8 is cause I needed the extra analogue outs.

    • @MELOPSMUSIC
      @MELOPSMUSIC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madmuso5 really hear the adi2 better the Adi 8 ds mkiii ?

  • @alexeykononenko6648
    @alexeykononenko6648 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi David. Great video as always. It would be interesting to hear you talk about adding 'glue' to the mix. I know there's been some videos on compression, etc., but I know it is a combination of things, and it would be great to hear your summary, common mistakes you see, etc. Thanks either way.

  • @ITSYABOYDONTE
    @ITSYABOYDONTE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I understand what he was trying to ask because when I first learned about converters and decided also to purchase and RME ADI-2 FS I didnt fully understand AD/DA conversion and I thought that I had to do something special to make it convert through my ADI- 2 PRO. I didnt understand that as long as I have it connected correctly and as long as I'm printing in real time using studion one 6 that the conversion was happening with the ADI. Before that I didnt know if I had to connect a certain way or change a setting in the unit to make it use the ADI converters. I just needed to research more and understand conversion more and how the unit worked with my DAW and my setup since this was my first time owning any piece of hardware and I mostly mix and master. I initially didnt know If it was working or not because i didnt understand converters and conversion.

  • @aliensexist545
    @aliensexist545 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video!
    Could you do a video about the power situation? How do you plug in all that gear!
    Thanks

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      th-cam.com/video/jbYP8ew6V6U/w-d-xo.html

    • @aliensexist545
      @aliensexist545 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mixbustvThat is very cool! Missed that part
      Seems like not a lot of info on youtube about how everything is plugged in power wise
      Thanks!

  • @AaezZzze
    @AaezZzze 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do you think of the Lynx Hilo 2 ?
    Trying to find the best transparent DA possible for mixing / mastering.

  • @AaezZzze
    @AaezZzze 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which da converter would you recommend for monitoring mastering full digital ?
    Is topping enough or do I need to go higher ?

  • @st33Npuist
    @st33Npuist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thinking about RME ADI-2.. ITB only.

  • @JohnnysaidWhat
    @JohnnysaidWhat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been struggling to get a good sound recording acoustic guitar. Tried different mics but still didn’t sound right. I have a great dedicated mic pre and a great mic. EC2 OC818. Interface was the weak link. Bought a used 8 channel lynx aurora. Unbelievable the difference it made. Finally have my end game chain.

  • @korbykor1546
    @korbykor1546 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes. Yes you do.

  • @LucasMichalski
    @LucasMichalski ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi David, what is your honest opinion on RME adi-2 pro as a main DAC for both monitoring and capturing and analogue gear on the loopback? Thanks

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great converter, Howie just got one

  • @EzraExan
    @EzraExan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If I am using an Apollo X6 Gen 2, would I require a converter if I intend to master with Analog Gear? Would the Apollo X6 Gen 2 suffice for my needs?

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah no, that's not a mastering AD

  • @JimboJones99
    @JimboJones99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you think of the Ferrofish Pulse 16 converters? Nice clean transparent converters do you think? … especially if you’ve already got a pair of Neve 542’s on your mixbus that already has color from the transformers. Other than having a Burl B2 ADC that is adding more color

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Burl DA converters for monitoring 🤔

  • @bighousemusic628
    @bighousemusic628 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very big R.I.P to the late dave hill one of my mentour from jamaica here with the crane song HEDD saving to grab one just for his memories just like my neve 1073 pre that i wount be giving selling or lending no time soon

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Massive loss

    • @StereotacticMusic
      @StereotacticMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've had the Egret and the Hedd because of him and who he is, without listening first I bought them but that was 10 years ago and i was inexperienced so I sold the 2 units , now I wouldn't

  • @kinheartbreak
    @kinheartbreak 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @2:50 This is what I've been stuck on. Im currently going line out of my Apollo x6 into analog chain and then capturing with an AD+. I was considering getting the Convert 2 to go along with the AD+ but how would I be able to both Feed the chain and monitor if it is only a 2 channel DA? Would I need 2 convert 2's ?

    • @kinheartbreak
      @kinheartbreak 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      love the channel btw been a fan for a min 🤟

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most of us have two converters, one for monitoring, one to feed the chain. The "critical" one is the monitoring, that's what I use the Dangerous for. The DA stage is less expensive and less difficult to make compared to the AD. With today's even average quality you have great DAs to feed your chain, especially considering you're not gonna push the DA anywhere NEAR its limits

  • @fvcvbvcbccbc2803
    @fvcvbvcbccbc2803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey David, is it possible to have a video deeply diving in attack and release of a limiter? Tutors and youtubes talk like limiter has only one control, but I really want to have an idea about how we should use a limiter properly just like how seriously people treating compressors these days.

  • @holasoypablo1
    @holasoypablo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello do you think that the Uad Apollo x8 have pro quality converters or mid range? for example
    to process the audio with external gear in 3 or 4 loopbacks, thanks a lot!

  • @bighousemusic628
    @bighousemusic628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bro please can i have that zulu behind you my mix need some butter soooo badly🤣

  • @dalydose221
    @dalydose221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is good advice

  • @RenzoG9-Topic
    @RenzoG9-Topic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David I’m curious how you like tracking vocal through your AD+? I’m thinking of getting one for tracking but also to print mixes with hardware. Any advice or thoughts?

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's amazing. One of the reasons I picked it is how easy was to switch the input and track with it

  • @adrianjeffrey2897
    @adrianjeffrey2897 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Without watching the video... Hell yes period you may not need that exact brand but converters matter every time I upgraded by converters my mixes work better and better and the artist that I were recording or working with were happier and happier. I will be getting the time adi-2 sounds amazing to my ears

    • @AdviceandAdventures
      @AdviceandAdventures ปีที่แล้ว

      Did upgrading converters get your music played on the air though?

    • @BukanIbuMu
      @BukanIbuMu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdviceandAdventures doesn't matter

    • @ezrashanti
      @ezrashanti ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adi2 is a great value and sounds awesome :)

  • @jimjones1505
    @jimjones1505 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you run several converters on the same pc

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With a pretty complicated setup

    • @patkelly8309
      @patkelly8309 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mixbustv 😄

  • @cytocache1238
    @cytocache1238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you use the adat out of your AD+ or straight USB

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AD+ passes the digital signal to the 8pre ES via ADAT, my connection to the computer is TB

    • @cytocache1238
      @cytocache1238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mixbustv is there any concern about the way ADAT sounds vs Spidf?

  • @SoundKilterStudio
    @SoundKilterStudio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey man! I don't really have a question, but was hoping for advice. My outboard gear has outgrown the available Analog I/O on my interface. I do have available ADAT In and Out on it though. And I am eventually going to upgrade my interface but I will still need more I/O regardless of the interface I choose because I do not want to sacrifice any mic pre's for additional I/O if that makes sense. So I was wondering what you would recommend for mid to high end converters? Specifically something with at least x8 line ins and outs and ADAT ins and outs. Im looking at the Ferrofish Pulse but wanted an opinion from someone who has the experience on different setups and has very similar taste as I do (i.e. you). Thanks man!

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh the timing :D since I JUST officially ran out of channel myself and I'm now 8ch short I had to make the call and get another 16A and that's what you should get, that easy. Motu 16A, this is my third so consider yourself lucky lol

    • @SoundKilterStudio
      @SoundKilterStudio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅 Well I'll be damned. Yeah I couldn't have hit you up at a better time! Thanks man. That was simple. But am I the lucky one here? 😅 I would love to need 3 of them with your gear! But I say that with full understanding you have earned all of it. Thanks again bro.

  • @grahamtaylor6883
    @grahamtaylor6883 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've only used audio interfaces for my conversion and I'm just about to buy an RME Fireface UFX2. But I'm thinking, would I be better buying dedicated converters and some pre amps instead? But how do dedicated converters get in to the computer? Do you have to buy extra PCi cards?

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Interfaces are converters. Of course buying dedicated converters and pres are generally speaking better than all in ones but today there are very high quality interfaces. Connections depends on the models

    • @HollerAtcherBoi
      @HollerAtcherBoi ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not the UFX + ?

    • @grahamtaylor6883
      @grahamtaylor6883 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HollerAtcherBoi The only difference is that the + has MADI connectivity, which I have no use for and is more expensive.

    • @bighousemusic628
      @bighousemusic628 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      High end audio interfaces are converters but the standalone converters plus preamp and summing mixers are the hybrid way to go if you are going into the commercial way but all in one audio interfaces for personal and home use is a good choice

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Snowdenbleep audio for tv and movies is the last thing they care about, and the one with less budget. Oh and mind you, I'm in Hollywood. They don't care, they don't care, the audience does. I promise you no converter null after 50 cycles, I'm willing to bet money on it any day. If you ever tried, you'd know not even the 1st pass null with the digital file. Not even TWO 1st passes can null, it's physics.

  • @vontreherumaiBH
    @vontreherumaiBH 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use my dangerous AD+ with my Lynx Hilo via AES , and maannnnn the Dangerous sounds smoother then the Lynx Hilo AD side of things ! It’s crazy 😭😭😭 but the Lynx DA side ,maannn I don’t think no other DA touching the clarity of the Lynx Hilo ‼️‼️

  • @MELOPSMUSIC
    @MELOPSMUSIC ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone can tell me if my Aurora 8 (first generation) should be upgraded ? For mixing. Thx

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aurora are good converters if you don't mind the fact thatn you can cook eggs on it after 4 minutes they're on

  • @aleksamrkela831
    @aleksamrkela831 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking of converters, what's the best bang-for-buck that isn't an interface?

    • @toslinked
      @toslinked ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you still have pci and a pc, RME raydat or even the older 9652 will give you best latency on the market plus great software and a lot of ins and outs via adat. I have a raydat with two ferrofish pulse 16 converters and couldn’t be happier (without spending a few thousand extra).

    • @aleksamrkela831
      @aleksamrkela831 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toslinked No, I want to expand an interface with 16 ins & outs, but I've seen that one Pulse16 can work for that as well. Though, at over 1000 euros, it's a bit on the pricy side.

    • @toslinked
      @toslinked ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aleksamrkela831 oh ok! well before the ferrofish I had a few of the behringer 1820s and they are perfectly fine for recording. the weak side is the DA, but still unbeatable for the money.

    • @aleksamrkela831
      @aleksamrkela831 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toslinked Do you think the Behringer would work fine for mixing with analog gear?

    • @toslinked
      @toslinked ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aleksamrkela831 that’s what I used them for. outboard compressors, fx. it’s nothing fancy but just set and forget, it’s certainly good enough unless you have extremely expensive outboard. a 180€ converter next to a stamchild wouldn’t make much sense but probably still be workable.

  • @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY
    @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY ปีที่แล้ว

    Q: "Do you need different converters?"
    A: "Nope, not no. All we need are the android Ash A.I. from Aliens and Acustica Audio's Ash."

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad you can't capture a mix with a plugin. Now what?

    • @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY
      @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mixbustv elaborate "capture". You act like I disrespected your ownership of the Dangerous AD+. You even proudly wanted to do a review of ASH only based on popular demand...which didn't come to fruition.

    • @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY
      @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mixbustv When it comes to "capturing a mix", do you mean this: "One of the joys of analog is that the sound palette is so versatile. Each unit will give you a different sonic character, and the ability to push these boxes to their extremes allows an engineer to create sounds out of the box that the digital realm isn’t able to provide yet.
      That’s why us analog heads like having such a plethora of different machines at hand. " MixOnline quote.

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    @nungu60a วันที่ผ่านมา

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    3. Their mind is to use a man as a resource
    4. The one they prefer is one on their drama level.
    Just pick your battle, guys. Marriage is for women not men.

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  วันที่ผ่านมา

      You pick the wrong women lol although I'm not sure wtf this has to do with a video on converters

  • @alshk6763
    @alshk6763 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Porcupine Man !!

  • @TigroGumi
    @TigroGumi ปีที่แล้ว

    I do find it a bit odd with the converters adding a colour signal after I found out it was just the same thing as the components in analogue equipment.. it seems odd... just keep the conversion separate and save the faff... make their colour add a separate unit surely?
    I just adds another complication like the one in this video.
    But unfortunately this exists and I might want to do the same because of it🤣

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, I don't want color on my converters, and I would focus on other things to get color if needed

    • @TigroGumi
      @TigroGumi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mixbustv (It* just..) It really doesn't make sense, especially if you expect to hear the same thing monitoring your analogue chain as when it's been converted.
      Plus that colour they are adding is in most units already... it's a bit like using a pen knife in a professional kitchen 😂

  • @AdviceandAdventures
    @AdviceandAdventures ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you all just have too much money to spend.

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or maybe we do this for a living? And invest in the tools to make things better, the same tools other people not making money doing this say don't matter.

    • @AdviceandAdventures
      @AdviceandAdventures ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mixbustv one sh1t post deserves another.
      But hey it's your money. If you want to spend it on diminishing returns, then have at it!

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      lol I saw your other comments, here's a piece of advice: don't comment on things you don't know or don't understand. It screams "I'm jealous" very loud. That includes "does it make your music play on air" Who said that even? You obvioulsy don't undertand profesionally mixing and mastering, or the industry, and have the home producer mindset, as you said, have at it and don't worry about what other people do, especially people who does this for a living. And here's another breaking news: promotion will get your music played on air, but if you think 3K for a converter is a lot, or pay a mix engineer is a lot, trust me you are not even CLOSE to have enough money for promotion so not even a miracle will do that for your music lol

  • @toslinked
    @toslinked ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first

  • @dna598
    @dna598 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I think it's all getting a little silly now, with all this "converters are a mixing tool" stuff. If you want color, wire up some transformers in a tin?

    • @mixbustv
      @mixbustv  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Converters ARE a mixing tool. That's why we have different ones. Especially for mastering, having different AD's is a very normal thing