Once had a game of ginyu where the survivors got Shenron in less than two minutes. I hope no one judges me if i say I rage quit that game and had my priority set to 0 and no exp or zeni were gotten were given.
I think what they should do in Frieza games is remove the human civs so you only have Namekians. This'll reduce the number of civs and the power cubes that comes from them so the survivors don't power up quickly and rush you at lvl 1 or 2.
I mean I kind of agree with this but that would mean frieza gets much more change making it faster to get to lvl 4 because of frieza passive also what mehdie said also is a good ideal as well
Survivors are just not afraid of the raider right now and that’s a serious problem. You could destroy the time machine and everything and survivors will stay behind to still fight. Raiders are going to get a buff because of it.
All I see these days is either max level raiders who still act like they're trying to get exp or max level groups of survivors using all the same boring-ass skills. 'Meta' kills games
Dude you did well as freiza the problem is that felt like every survivors having like 2 stun with banshou fan + gigantic meteor to knock you of the STM while also having missile and immortal champion
@@InsightReasoninghead start key radar + radar power boost + radar extra periphery range will go absolutely crazy. Imagine a level 1 power key radar having a +50% range boost from those 2 passives 💀
You're a bad cell player you shouldn't have invested skills for evolution and try to stay as a larva for as long as possible while spamming that one line.
This is a side effect of the gacha system. Every banner survivors get a buff. Even if you don't pull the new passive or whatever, your Z5 teammate you get matched with might have it. All while the raider is the same as the day it was released
Bansho Fan needs a giga-huge nerf man, it being basically infinite pre-knockback meter rockets means if even just two people are running it during the STM phase you're literally just gonna get slapped back and forth between them while simultaneously getting hit by Shoe, Gum, Savior, etc. Stuns in general break the game's balancing in half because each person can just run 2/3 stuns and it's GGs at that point.
People sleep on stuns and disrupts. Partly I think cause EF+IT is so cheesy, ez to use good that people have zero idea how good some of theo ther skills really are.
Know what the worst part for the 1st game is? They had all 7 balls too, so they would've hunted you down for destroying STM. A player running away with that movement after collecting the final ball like that means they have all 7 already. So you got key rushed and ball rushed in less than 5 minutes. So they had a backup plan incase you destroyed it.
Those players are even more annoying I lost a match because they chased me down on low health and then they were jerks about it being like Lol! You ran away and still died! Those people is why the game dosent have more players Yeah it's a real fuckin achievement that ya ganged up on one guy with 4 to 7 players
@@gabrielchastain6091 Eh I just accept it, it's happened to me before as Cell with 3 players remaining back in season 1 and they've killed me at 0:01 of ETM phase with the level 4.
The first buff for Raiders is give them 4 active and 4 passive skills at all times. If a Raider would lose a skill like Vegeta loses Nappa if Nappa dies, then give him a separate active skill.
@@gamercentral2417 To be fair, the original Time Patroller's Duty wasn't really useful. 35% faster speed for one key placement wasn't enough to justify it. 700% being the change however was overkill and greatly enhances the survivor's ability to rush the game just to punish the Raider's attempt to camp the last key to stall out a game. Like, it should be 100% faster plant speed. That already would be stupid fast but not unplayable for either side fast. 700% is just insane and should been nerfed by now..
inmortal champion was a mistake, even tho 17's shield and Goku tp combo exists You gotta use 2 active skill slots to get away from the Raider (except if is Broly You are fighting) and this 2 skills have a very long cooldown
Specifically Guldo can also stop it with Paralysis. Granted, Guldo is very easy to jump and has a hard enough time fighting one survivor let alone 4 level ones that act as a hivemind.
Energy Field and Instant Transmission were also big mistakes too. All three (I'm including Immortal Champion) of these skills encourage players to play stupid and get rewarded or simply deny the raider a fair interaction when survivors get caught out but also escape for free anyway. Sure they take up slots for say stalling with stuns, or passives for fighitng but the fact that they just deny the raider a chance to gain EXP can hit jsut as strong as someone stun locking raiders in the STM phase.
@@pretender1456I would say vegeta right above ginyu because ginyu may have more lives, but every form of his is squishy whereas vegeta has normal raider health. If u kill Guldo, Ginyu’s level 1 then ginyu loses half his health by default and can be jumped without a level 4 shenron active. But if u kill Saibamen Vegeta is totally unaffected and his level 4 basically 2 shots the level 4 shenron and can 1 shot him with the stomp. And most importantly if u get no civs as saibamen u die within 3 minutes and have a chance to comeback with Nappa. But if u get no civs as Guldo you can be stuck as him the entire game.
Frieza got me my Z5 finally even though my best is Vegeta I literally had to be so toxic I had to use zarbon and dodoria to find and camp the bodies of level 0s to make sure they couldnt be revived *the teammates did try by the way* just so they couldn't power up key rush me and then gang me down It was a living nightmare This game is supposed to be fun.but getting raider rank 5 was a literal unfun hell Not only do you gotta wait up to an hour to get it and play games that you arnt even getting your goal done with but then you always wind up running into a group of Mostly z5s that are friends that barrier IT around and key rush you Its impossible!
I still think Frieza's the overall best Raider, but that also to me shows how underpowered & limited ya are as a Raider compared to even a half competent lobby In my current opinion, from most to least competent Raider goes as follows; Frieza > Broly >/= Ginyu Force > Vegeta > Majin Buu > Cell I'm a PC player as well for reference, so this is even with mouse aim taken into account Ya have to do everything possible including camping to have a sliver of a chance regardless of which Raider ya pick
Had a cell game and survivors Key rushed me in less than 3 minutes and Trunks blessed their supplies. It was a premade with everyone running Immortal Champion and stuns. Not a fun game
all 5 keys set in 2:30 was what i had yesterday and then 6 people jumped me with lvl 2 transf and one with lvl 3 including me only having 1 civilian in b at snowy mountains xD well atleast no shenron.....
tbh you dont give up executions on Frieza, its incredibly hard to stop him unless its the Krillin one. You wouldve been level 3 way earlier. You should bully survs when they key rush THAT hard cause their D change will be low levels
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. He got a couple of downs that could've mitigated the STM interruption but instead he focuses too much on the STM percent early on. If he had executed more people he had a chance of getting some players out of the game. That match was tough but definitely trolled with that.
Yo! My bad, dude. That was me spinning at the end, and I just wanted to clarify it wasn't meant to be a troll spin. I just got excited and started spinning around(I do this often and probably should stop 😅), but from your POV, it definitely looks like I was doing it in your face, so my bad. Meant no disrespect. GGs, looking forward to playing with or vs. you in the future!
They need to add a mechanic similar to the one we already have, I imagine something like if it gets depleted the raider gets his Cc break reduced by a certain amount for each Cc incoming after the bar is depleted, at this point even a full CD sounds good lol but something to punish Cc abuse on the survivors, even Just gift a bit of evolve gauge would be great, buu and frieza could get this justified as a "rage" mechanic, I can see frieza being mad at survs and Just getting to evolve out of "you little shits" energy from being stunned non stop lol
I think the main issue lies in that non-Dchange things are knocking the balls off of raiders. It should be a vanish kick or a melee, not a flurry of stun skills.
I’ve somehow been doing just fine on both sides of this. Starting to think destroying areas might be trolling if you’re getting rushed similar to this. Secure the W, going for platinums is not the priority anymore. But that’s just my experience.
Do not worry I got ya. 1st do not play broly and if you are I recommend these 2 strats. Degenerate level 2 broly or level 3 broly the entire game. The level 2 strat involves staying level 2 the ENTIRE GAME. You do not finish any civis and survivors and you camp/down them. You only have to deal with only 1 level 4 and this strat demolished teams (make the evo passives +0 if you are using this strat). The level 3 strat involves you evolving to level 3 ASAP. You stay level 3 the entire game. You do not finish off anyone as level 3 but now I recommend charging up the evo passive. With this strat you are basically winning once you deal with the level 3 transphere. For jumping I recommend using the powerful super attack for as long as possible and flying straight up and falling down while escaping people with charge so you can 1v1 ST. Hope this helps you. DO NOT EVOLVE TO LEVEL 4 UNLESS ON THESE CONDITIONS. 1. Stm is 75 percent. 2. Survivors have a skill issue. This also applies to the level 2 strat for evolving to level 3.
@@AlienEditsMemes A premade is a group of survivors all queu'd up together, likely all in communication, or a streamer (like Ironcane) with a bunch of viewers. What makes Premade's annoying is the fact they're all usually in a PSN or Xbox party or a Discord call, meaning they can all easily communicate and coordinate with each other to jump Raider's or Key Rush without the Raider having any real way to counter or deal with it.
Trust me do not play broly unless you know what you are doing. I recommend freiza and Ginyu. Take the flying straight up and falling down strat for all raiders.
Honestly it feels like season 2 again of the raiders being bullied by the survivor especially since literally I got rank a and now my lobby’s are filled with z rank sweats and pre mades
You have been both a blessing to me in survivor matches and a literal curse to me in my z5 rank goal for raider I don't know whether to scream at you or thank you lmao😂
If there's two things I learned from this video, are that: 1- Key rushing is still insane and survivors are super mega privileged. 2- Bansho fan is still so ridiculous man, like what the hell you barely got to play the game bro 💀
Me too exactly hahaha sometimes cant get passed lvl 1 because I get jumped by the team. When I hit lvl 2 its endgame. And the endless stuns and green barrier is annoying
I would say you were a bit salty, but you are a far better sport then I would be in this situation. Like that weird meele hit box at 6:38 cheated you out of a good vanish attack. Though the fire wall at 6:49 was pretty well played. All in All? Except for a slect circumstances? This group didn't outplay you, they just got lucky with the keys and you unlucky with civilian spawns. Doesn't take much skill to find and then plant all the keys in under 4 minutes. Still you kept a good attitude throughout out the game and that is a win. You will get these jerks next time.
@@gabrielchastain6091 maybe they could make so raiders can regress the time it takes to finish a key if they found one being placed? Could encourage hard camping though.
This is the problem with the game right now, there are too many stuns available on the survivors side all with low cooldowns and are allowed to be spammable. I suggest that survivors get nerfed and should only be allowed to bring a single stun no matter what.
Last time I was really into this game, I preferred playing Survivor over Raider because it just seemed more fun that way. Now, Raider just isn't fun anymore to me imo. There's some games that I can get as Raider that go well but unless I'm playing Broly, I don't get far with other raiders. I stopped playinh Cell completelh because of how easy it is to overwhelm him if he either can't get to level 3 at all or gets level 3 late. Last time I played Spopovich, survivors had a good amount of keys ajd all the dragon balls hy the time I was about to bring Buu out. I don't strive to be the best on this game whatsoever but I for sure notice how far survivors have come while Raiders don't have much against a coordinated team with good RNG on survivors' side.
To be honest, keys and key radars are RNG. Sometimes you can get all keys done in the first minutes, sometimes you'll have to go and search in the most hidden crate ever. Same with civilians, sometimes you find lots of them, sometimes you barely see one or two. What I never support is the idea if having more stuns, I don't like any of Mr. Satan's skills, he unironically is powerful. Special beam cannon is too fast, and Unconscious control can be annoying. On the other hand, raiders camping is annoyinf as well, and sometimes raiders will stomp survivors specially newbies and bad players, even body camping haopens, like literally sitting on the body until the timer bleeds out, and if the team can't punish the raider for doing that with keys then more trouble happens. What is the most annoying is that when you're raider the team you face use this meta skills with coordinated teamwork, but when you soli queue you get these people who make bad decisions and doom the entire team. Matchmaking is not working properly, I wish sweat raiders faced the sweat premades, and the baby raiders face the newbies.
The rush was absolutely insane, and someone is talking with their ass instead of their mouth if they think there really was any way to play the match better One major factor had to have been luck - be it key spawns or the provision of a Key Radar. While they were found within such a tight timeframe in your raider game to reduce the likelihood of a Key Hound (my personal title for someone who found a Key Radar and hard commits to key locating), the civilian spawns also can greatly effect the flow of the game. The only raider really unaffected by them is Broly as they serve more a "cherry on top" amount of energy, majority of regular raiders need their daily dose of vitamin civs to reach their higher levels. Get screwed out of them and you're put back so much it may as well be scuffed altogether. Even Broly as demonstrated isn't immune to the effects of being Key Rushed, despite being the only raider who can Spawn Rush with his dash Even the toxic method of Body Camping is going to lose strength as a tactic, since it depends on sticking close to a body enough to deter revivals - which can extremely limit your ability to see and/or catch people going around depending on how close you put yourself on that leash. Coordinated teams absolutely are snowballing ahead while Raiders are stagnating behind
I don’t think frieza is bad at all, just very rng dependent. Either you get the ball rolling early, and get off level one, or you suffer the rest of the match. If you’re using zarbon/dodoria well, it should make up for not being able to sense. If key rushing wasn’t so easy to pull off, I’d say frieza is one of the best raiders.
@@sirstupid5857 yea right after this comment I played frieza and actually used dodoriya and zarbon across the map and wiped the whole lobby😭 (his only actual problem is his level 4 cause it kinda feels weaker than the level 3)
Sorry. This is just like DBD. I also think they should add a passive to start with a key radar.😊 Rush the killer/raider. Can't handle it then... Skill issues. I can 😊
Meta skills are all fine. 😁 I go against them too but still come up on top like 90 percent of the time. If you ask me Raiders need to be a little nerfed. 🙂 No duh it's about rushing. It's the literal objective. Why people get mad about it? Cause they think the game is about hem and it's not. 😂
I don't think they'd give matches a timer of 15 mins and nerf the spawn rates of key radars if they meant for all keys to be found in about a minute. Also highly disagree with Raiders needing to nerfed. Maybe specific aspects of some raiders. But an over all general nerf for raiders would be kinda wild where I think rn Survivors are very dominant.
Once had a game of ginyu where the survivors got Shenron in less than two minutes. I hope no one judges me if i say I rage quit that game and had my priority set to 0 and no exp or zeni were gotten were given.
I think what they should do in Frieza games is remove the human civs so you only have Namekians. This'll reduce the number of civs and the power cubes that comes from them so the survivors don't power up quickly and rush you at lvl 1 or 2.
Or simply make the namekian who have a dragon ball give, let's say only 1 cube. It would be gamechanging imo
I mean I kind of agree with this but that would mean frieza gets much more change making it faster to get to lvl 4 because of frieza passive also what mehdie said also is a good ideal as well
3 and a half minutes with a 20+ Time Machine, Shenron, no deaths, all civilians gathered before raider level 3… these players aren’t human.
Survivors are just not afraid of the raider right now and that’s a serious problem. You could destroy the time machine and everything and survivors will stay behind to still fight. Raiders are going to get a buff because of it.
Maybe a health buff to some sole raiders and maybe an implementation of a stun bar
All I see these days is either max level raiders who still act like they're trying to get exp or max level groups of survivors using all the same boring-ass skills. 'Meta' kills games
I think having a group of survivors with the same skills set up is worst then the raiders. Especially now with rank.
i want to increase the levels of all my raiders is all
@@Legion617 This is why I hardly play anymore
Sounds like skill issues. 🙃
Sounds like skill issues. 🙃
Dude you did well as freiza the problem is that felt like every survivors having like 2 stun with banshou fan + gigantic meteor to knock you of the STM while also having missile and immortal champion
Also key rush going crazy, and we still do not have headstart radar lmao
@@MarakoJuanBro the moment they add head start key radar the game is over 💀
@@InsightReasoninghead start key radar + radar power boost + radar extra periphery range will go absolutely crazy. Imagine a level 1 power key radar having a +50% range boost from those 2 passives 💀
Raiders feel like the survivors rn, cause they have to run for their life sometimes because of how strong survivors are.
Literally my game with brolly as a z5. Bro I have to run for dear life at lvl 3.
This is why I like cell, I built him to only need 2 civs for level 2 and use his ki sense ability and it works really well at just level 43.
You're a bad cell player you shouldn't have invested skills for evolution and try to stay as a larva for as long as possible while spamming that one line.
@@Ahappysandwich I don't have it yet unfortunately, need a little more tp.
@@Ahappysandwichwhy stay in larva?
@@HYUZAKso he can revert to an egg
@@HYUZAKhe's trolling, strive for getting out of larva around 14:30. Then with lvl 2 prioritize looking for civs while they're still on the map.
None of us had a key radar that was all RNJesus lol
When the stars align 😂
Nah that's wild lmaooo. Game had it out for me that day fr.
Ggs 🫡
There should be A, B, C, D, E, F, G. 2 more extra keys and expand the map a bit to stop key rushing lol
When the stm came out broly shouldve gotten so mad he goes to lvl 4 instantly.
This is a side effect of the gacha system. Every banner survivors get a buff. Even if you don't pull the new passive or whatever, your Z5 teammate you get matched with might have it. All while the raider is the same as the day it was released
Bansho Fan needs a giga-huge nerf man, it being basically infinite pre-knockback meter rockets means if even just two people are running it during the STM phase you're literally just gonna get slapped back and forth between them while simultaneously getting hit by Shoe, Gum, Savior, etc. Stuns in general break the game's balancing in half because each person can just run 2/3 stuns and it's GGs at that point.
People sleep on stuns and disrupts. Partly I think cause EF+IT is so cheesy, ez to use good that people have zero idea how good some of theo ther skills really are.
Know what the worst part for the 1st game is? They had all 7 balls too, so they would've hunted you down for destroying STM. A player running away with that movement after collecting the final ball like that means they have all 7 already.
So you got key rushed and ball rushed in less than 5 minutes. So they had a backup plan incase you destroyed it.
Those players are even more annoying I lost a match because they chased me down on low health and then they were jerks about it being like
Lol! You ran away and still died!
Those people is why the game dosent have more players
Yeah it's a real fuckin achievement that ya ganged up on one guy with 4 to 7 players
@@gabrielchastain6091 Eh I just accept it, it's happened to me before as Cell with 3 players remaining back in season 1 and they've killed me at 0:01 of ETM phase with the level 4.
@@gabrielchastain6091what’s your gamertag
5:41 You didnt finish off 2 people. You would've been in a really good spot as level 3 early on and you still had the dragonball
The first buff for Raiders is give them 4 active and 4 passive skills at all times.
If a Raider would lose a skill like Vegeta loses Nappa if Nappa dies, then give him a separate active skill.
Now imagine a world where we still had the old key setting speed. 💀
How do you get that? Is that something that's gone, except for players that got it when it was a thing?
@Kabirdrki you can run time patroller's duty for the last key. After season 1, they made placing keys take longer overall
Oh yeah, I actually do remember that during season 1. Key guarding wasn’t a viable strat back then so I never used it
@@gamercentral2417 To be fair, the original Time Patroller's Duty wasn't really useful. 35% faster speed for one key placement wasn't enough to justify it. 700% being the change however was overkill and greatly enhances the survivor's ability to rush the game just to punish the Raider's attempt to camp the last key to stall out a game.
Like, it should be 100% faster plant speed. That already would be stupid fast but not unplayable for either side fast. 700% is just insane and should been nerfed by now..
inmortal champion was a mistake, even tho 17's shield and Goku tp combo exists You gotta use 2 active skill slots to get away from the Raider (except if is Broly You are fighting) and this 2 skills have a very long cooldown
Specifically Guldo can also stop it with Paralysis. Granted, Guldo is very easy to jump and has a hard enough time fighting one survivor let alone 4 level ones that act as a hivemind.
Energy Field and Instant Transmission were also big mistakes too. All three (I'm including Immortal Champion) of these skills encourage players to play stupid and get rewarded or simply deny the raider a fair interaction when survivors get caught out but also escape for free anyway.
Sure they take up slots for say stalling with stuns, or passives for fighitng but the fact that they just deny the raider a chance to gain EXP can hit jsut as strong as someone stun locking raiders in the STM phase.
Want some my 3 stuns?
Bro I would be punching the air if I got juggled like a toy by bansho fan
Yo IronCane I've been watching you for a while bro it's great to see how far you have come
Appreciate you man 🫡
@@ironcane Same to you 🫡
Honestly with the New Meta idk if Frieza is even Number 1 raider anymore
Who would you say is the best raider to choose this season? To me, it feels like only Cell and Vegeta stand a chance.
@@pretender1456personally I’d say ginyu.
@@pretender1456I would say vegeta right above ginyu because ginyu may have more lives, but every form of his is squishy whereas vegeta has normal raider health. If u kill Guldo, Ginyu’s level 1 then ginyu loses half his health by default and can be jumped without a level 4 shenron active. But if u kill Saibamen Vegeta is totally unaffected and his level 4 basically 2 shots the level 4 shenron and can 1 shot him with the stomp. And most importantly if u get no civs as saibamen u die within 3 minutes and have a chance to comeback with Nappa. But if u get no civs as Guldo you can be stuck as him the entire game.
Frieza got me my Z5 finally even though my best is Vegeta
I literally had to be so toxic
I had to use zarbon and dodoria to find and camp the bodies of level 0s to make sure they couldnt be revived *the teammates did try by the way* just so they couldn't power up key rush me and then gang me down
It was a living nightmare
This game is supposed to be fun.but getting raider rank 5 was a literal unfun hell
Not only do you gotta wait up to an hour to get it and play games that you arnt even getting your goal done with but then you always wind up running into a group of Mostly z5s that are friends that barrier IT around and key rush you
Its impossible!
I still think Frieza's the overall best Raider, but that also to me shows how underpowered & limited ya are as a Raider compared to even a half competent lobby
In my current opinion, from most to least competent Raider goes as follows; Frieza > Broly >/= Ginyu Force > Vegeta > Majin Buu > Cell
I'm a PC player as well for reference, so this is even with mouse aim taken into account
Ya have to do everything possible including camping to have a sliver of a chance regardless of which Raider ya pick
Had a cell game and survivors Key rushed me in less than 3 minutes and Trunks blessed their supplies. It was a premade with everyone running Immortal Champion and stuns. Not a fun game
the same thing happened to me as vegeta, but to be fair you got unlucky with survivors I just didn't break stm enough so they stall me out and lost.
all 5 keys set in 2:30 was what i had yesterday and then 6 people jumped me with lvl 2 transf and one with lvl 3 including me only having 1 civilian in b at snowy mountains xD well atleast no shenron.....
tbh you dont give up executions on Frieza, its incredibly hard to stop him unless its the Krillin one. You wouldve been level 3 way earlier. You should bully survs when they key rush THAT hard cause their D change will be low levels
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. He got a couple of downs that could've mitigated the STM interruption but instead he focuses too much on the STM percent early on.
If he had executed more people he had a chance of getting some players out of the game.
That match was tough but definitely trolled with that.
Even though you didnt play the best, its insane how fast they key rush
Yo! My bad, dude. That was me spinning at the end, and I just wanted to clarify it wasn't meant to be a troll spin. I just got excited and started spinning around(I do this often and probably should stop 😅), but from your POV, it definitely looks like I was doing it in your face, so my bad. Meant no disrespect.
GGs, looking forward to playing with or vs. you in the future!
They're really needs to be a solution to stop key rushing.
You played well in your raider match! Nothing to do against key rush and a whole team alive
It's easy to watch and comment
They need to add a mechanic similar to the one we already have, I imagine something like if it gets depleted the raider gets his Cc break reduced by a certain amount for each Cc incoming after the bar is depleted, at this point even a full CD sounds good lol but something to punish Cc abuse on the survivors, even Just gift a bit of evolve gauge would be great, buu and frieza could get this justified as a "rage" mechanic, I can see frieza being mad at survs and Just getting to evolve out of "you little shits" energy from being stunned non stop lol
Mfw bansho fan and super spirit bomb doesn't cc the raider - 😮
I think the main issue lies in that non-Dchange things are knocking the balls off of raiders. It should be a vanish kick or a melee, not a flurry of stun skills.
Do you still get the shirt for z5 if you rank down
I’ve somehow been doing just fine on both sides of this. Starting to think destroying areas might be trolling if you’re getting rushed similar to this. Secure the W, going for platinums is not the priority anymore. But that’s just my experience.
The whole team collectively outplayed you. Unfortunate thing is it had nothing to do with you being bad.
I need advise I was playing as broly and immediately got jumped by SSG Goku and the rest as level ones and lost less then 5 minutes into the game💀
Sounds like you were against a Premade, really nothing you can do about that
@@megasoniczx6960 what is a pre-made and what makes that worse then a normal lobby
Do not worry I got ya. 1st do not play broly and if you are I recommend these 2 strats. Degenerate level 2 broly or level 3 broly the entire game. The level 2 strat involves staying level 2 the ENTIRE GAME. You do not finish any civis and survivors and you camp/down them. You only have to deal with only 1 level 4 and this strat demolished teams (make the evo passives +0 if you are using this strat). The level 3 strat involves you evolving to level 3 ASAP. You stay level 3 the entire game. You do not finish off anyone as level 3 but now I recommend charging up the evo passive. With this strat you are basically winning once you deal with the level 3 transphere. For jumping I recommend using the powerful super attack for as long as possible and flying straight up and falling down while escaping people with charge so you can 1v1 ST. Hope this helps you. DO NOT EVOLVE TO LEVEL 4 UNLESS ON THESE CONDITIONS. 1. Stm is 75 percent. 2. Survivors have a skill issue. This also applies to the level 2 strat for evolving to level 3.
@@AlienEditsMemes A premade is a group of survivors all queu'd up together, likely all in communication, or a streamer (like Ironcane) with a bunch of viewers.
What makes Premade's annoying is the fact they're all usually in a PSN or Xbox party or a Discord call, meaning they can all easily communicate and coordinate with each other to jump Raider's or Key Rush without the Raider having any real way to counter or deal with it.
Trust me do not play broly unless you know what you are doing. I recommend freiza and Ginyu. Take the flying straight up and falling down strat for all raiders.
Honestly it feels like season 2 again of the raiders being bullied by the survivor especially since literally I got rank a and now my lobby’s are filled with z rank sweats and pre mades
Could you do a tutorial for combat and vanishing. I feel it’ll help me win much more raider games
GGs had fun going up against you
Yall put it that work lmao
You have been both a blessing to me in survivor matches and a literal curse to me in my z5 rank goal for raider
I don't know whether to scream at you or thank you lmao😂
Ggs bro! Y'all absolutely cooked lol
@@gabrielchastain6091bro I’ve been stuck at Z1 raider bcuz of Premades it happens
Jesus the keyrush
This type of shit happens on PC even unintentionally dam near
ALL
the time
If there's two things I learned from this video, are that:
1- Key rushing is still insane and survivors are super mega privileged.
2- Bansho fan is still so ridiculous man, like what the hell you barely got to play the game bro 💀
This looks like the exact same games I’ve been having as buu.
Me too exactly hahaha sometimes cant get passed lvl 1 because I get jumped by the team. When I hit lvl 2 its endgame. And the endless stuns and green barrier is annoying
Sorry I'm new, what does killing Broly do?
I know for Ginyu it makes him weaker I think late.
If you kill broly, buu, cell, frieza you win right away. Nappa, and the Ginyu force dont die. It just goes to the next raider
I would say you were a bit salty, but you are a far better sport then I would be in this situation.
Like that weird meele hit box at 6:38 cheated you out of a good vanish attack.
Though the fire wall at 6:49 was pretty well played.
All in All? Except for a slect circumstances? This group didn't outplay you, they just got lucky with the keys and you unlucky with civilian spawns.
Doesn't take much skill to find and then plant all the keys in under 4 minutes.
Still you kept a good attitude throughout out the game and that is a win. You will get these jerks next time.
Ya I have been having tough matches as Raider and its been hard to keep my calm. And I almost never rage.
Tryna be better about the salt lol appreciate the feedback!!
2023 ironcane wouldn't take that game lightly
Do you think increasing the amount of time needed to plant the key is a good solution?
Maybe but time patrollers duty needs a nerf
Its almost impossible to save a game when they key rush you
@@gabrielchastain6091 maybe they could make so raiders can regress the time it takes to finish a key if they found one being placed? Could encourage hard camping though.
What’s your favorite part of dbtb, mines waiting up to half an hour just to get insta killed by a already level 2 Broly
This is the problem with the game right now, there are too many stuns available on the survivors side all with low cooldowns and are allowed to be spammable. I suggest that survivors get nerfed and should only be allowed to bring a single stun no matter what.
Last time I was really into this game, I preferred playing Survivor over Raider because it just seemed more fun that way. Now, Raider just isn't fun anymore to me imo. There's some games that I can get as Raider that go well but unless I'm playing Broly, I don't get far with other raiders. I stopped playinh Cell completelh because of how easy it is to overwhelm him if he either can't get to level 3 at all or gets level 3 late. Last time I played Spopovich, survivors had a good amount of keys ajd all the dragon balls hy the time I was about to bring Buu out.
I don't strive to be the best on this game whatsoever but I for sure notice how far survivors have come while Raiders don't have much against a coordinated team with good RNG on survivors' side.
10:08 salt. Its like in smash bros taunting is fun
To be honest, keys and key radars are RNG. Sometimes you can get all keys done in the first minutes, sometimes you'll have to go and search in the most hidden crate ever. Same with civilians, sometimes you find lots of them, sometimes you barely see one or two.
What I never support is the idea if having more stuns, I don't like any of Mr. Satan's skills, he unironically is powerful. Special beam cannon is too fast, and Unconscious control can be annoying.
On the other hand, raiders camping is annoyinf as well, and sometimes raiders will stomp survivors specially newbies and bad players, even body camping haopens, like literally sitting on the body until the timer bleeds out, and if the team can't punish the raider for doing that with keys then more trouble happens.
What is the most annoying is that when you're raider the team you face use this meta skills with coordinated teamwork, but when you soli queue you get these people who make bad decisions and doom the entire team. Matchmaking is not working properly, I wish sweat raiders faced the sweat premades, and the baby raiders face the newbies.
Gotta go fast!
The rush was absolutely insane, and someone is talking with their ass instead of their mouth if they think there really was any way to play the match better
One major factor had to have been luck - be it key spawns or the provision of a Key Radar. While they were found within such a tight timeframe in your raider game to reduce the likelihood of a Key Hound (my personal title for someone who found a Key Radar and hard commits to key locating), the civilian spawns also can greatly effect the flow of the game. The only raider really unaffected by them is Broly as they serve more a "cherry on top" amount of energy, majority of regular raiders need their daily dose of vitamin civs to reach their higher levels. Get screwed out of them and you're put back so much it may as well be scuffed altogether.
Even Broly as demonstrated isn't immune to the effects of being Key Rushed, despite being the only raider who can Spawn Rush with his dash
Even the toxic method of Body Camping is going to lose strength as a tactic, since it depends on sticking close to a body enough to deter revivals - which can extremely limit your ability to see and/or catch people going around depending on how close you put yourself on that leash.
Coordinated teams absolutely are snowballing ahead while Raiders are stagnating behind
Bro was complaining abt “oh if I downed players I would’ve won” while downing like 4 people and not even finishing them
They could've been rezed afterwards anyways so I'm not sure what the point of that would've been when the STM was my priority.
Frieza player try not to spam challenge (impossible)
Nice thumbnail!
Homemade this one! Appreciate you!! 🫡
Tbh you should’ve just destroyed the Time Machine instead of going after the dragon ball every time you lost it btw we got so lucky with the keys😂
I figured that if you got it it would've been ggs regardless since the whole team was up to stall me out
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Frieza is definitely the worst raider he’s too slow and he can’t even sense survivors😭
I don’t think frieza is bad at all, just very rng dependent. Either you get the ball rolling early, and get off level one, or you suffer the rest of the match. If you’re using zarbon/dodoria well, it should make up for not being able to sense. If key rushing wasn’t so easy to pull off, I’d say frieza is one of the best raiders.
@@sirstupid5857 yea right after this comment I played frieza and actually used dodoriya and zarbon across the map and wiped the whole lobby😭 (his only actual problem is his level 4 cause it kinda feels weaker than the level 3)
lol. His super in his level 4, (not the ball) is vicious. I do agree that his ki blasts are kinda meh though.
Average Raider game tbh
Sonic the Hedgehog Speed!
Classic breakers for life... This is why breakers is a let down even if its a little delay and it's still a let down >:(
Epic
Yah I don't like frieze he's to slow to level up
If u get key rushed tht hard always body camp 1-2 ppl. Sadly its the only way to rly prevent a steamroll
If you camped bodies could've had a chance
Sorry. This is just like DBD. I also think they should add a passive to start with a key radar.😊 Rush the killer/raider. Can't handle it then... Skill issues. I can 😊
Uhhhhh yeah man lol
Meta skills are all fine. 😁 I go against them too but still come up on top like 90 percent of the time. If you ask me Raiders need to be a little nerfed. 🙂 No duh it's about rushing. It's the literal objective. Why people get mad about it? Cause they think the game is about hem and it's not. 😂
I don't think they'd give matches a timer of 15 mins and nerf the spawn rates of key radars if they meant for all keys to be found in about a minute.
Also highly disagree with Raiders needing to nerfed. Maybe specific aspects of some raiders. But an over all general nerf for raiders would be kinda wild where I think rn Survivors are very dominant.