I powered a few LEDs with drops of water dripping on titanium coated glass and a bit of ptfe tape. You could just drip the water over it and it creates static charge enough to light multiple leds. It was inspired by an article where they did the same thing and powered 200leds with just drops of water.
Hmm, I may have used a paperclip at sometime, but I don't remember it. However that sounds like a good idea, so I will try to remember that for next time 🤣🤣👍👍 and flashing 25 LEDs is impressive 🌞🌞😎😎
I was sure it was you! How bizarre if not and if you then DO use a paperclip and it works. That would be some kind of time shifting paradox thing LOL. Hmm, I wonder how fast your new F1 Radio Shack car can go around in circles... it worked for Superman 🤣
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan Was going to try 'Thanks For Watching' with some kind of Slayer Exciter circuit and use on end screens of vids, but there were no way enough LED's in my stash. Luckily the end of the year was happening!
Nice work. I love little circuits like this. Put a peak detector and switch between the output and the LED anodes and the LEDs will stay lit once the capacitor has a sufficient charge. While the LEDs are off, it will continue to charge the cap. It may take some time to charge initially, but it does work. I used something similar on a ridiculous joke circuit I built years ago.
Great thought. I was going to let it simply light them with very little in the way of a cap, but the 470uF definitely helped for brightness, so left it like that. Hope you have a great New Year and thanks for posting! 😀
The volume of water is not really a factor in things like this. As long as electrons (and ions) can be transferred between the electrodes, it should work fine. If memory serves me well you could actually lay one electrode on top of the other with a piece of wet paper between them. Yes ... I am a science teacher - why do you ask? :)
Thanks Mr science teacher 😀 Yes, indeed, wet paper would work. It just surprised me how well it continued to run. Normally, surface area has played quite a large part in needed current and this didn't seem to care at all. One of those times when size reduction and further size reduction ends up being ridiculous to what was originally planned. All the best for 2025!
@@Slider2732_LEDs can run at tiny amounts of current, that's why an LED flashlight can still work even with slightly crusty/leaky batteries, as long as they still have some power left. As long as you have metals with a different electronegativity and some form of charge carrier, you can get some current. Touching them together (galvanic reaction) or even just holding them with your hands can get a tiny charge (some science museums have a display where you put your hands on metal plates or rods to move a microammeter).
Output is roughly 1.4V at about 2mA. Not a lot and will sag over time as the magnesium oxidizes. Also, this magnesium is about 10 years old, from a reel of it that is now a dark grey in colour. But, other projects have run for about 3 months at a time before the magnesium needs to be replaced.
I had made a flashlight with this joule thief circuit and it used to make a high pitched noise (a transformer wine) as I had used a toroid it was so fun listening to it
They can make an awful high pitched piercing noise, yep... until age silences them. I have loads of circuits around here and CRT TV's that mysteriously now run quietly. Anyone younger than 35 can probably hear our house from 2 miles away 🤣
Because I had no idea if it would work 😀 Thought it should, but didn't know, hence the idea for the video. As it also happened, it had been raining for several days and that prompted making it run from water.
Hello my good friend. You could have had a great thumbnail with "Power from Volcanoes, Hydrogen and Oxygen." H2O Rain + Sulpher from volcanoes to make diluted sulfuric acid. Otherwise known as acid rain. When back in New Lab one of my listed projects is to get a dead car battery and revive it purely with rain water. Charged with solar panel and see how long it runs for on a suitable load. Happy New Year to you and Julie.
Thanks Ray and I hope you have a wonderful New Year! Yes, I suppose acid rain is part way related for a car battery. In the 1970's you could have probably driven out to the Manchester mills and put the empty battery on the ground, waited 10 minutes for it to rain and driven the car back home using that battery! 🤔🥺🤐 Good luck with the project, I'll tune in for certain 😀
Very nice setup ❤ If you explore further you may find it can work with 1x1 mm electrodes or even smaller if you can make connections reliable. With few cells in series the leds will stay on all time as long as there is at least 1 molecule of water for each cell. The problem with copper-magnesium is when you put them in series they must not have direct contact as magnesium gets destroyed at contact points. Also, you can get a voltage even if you use acetone instead of water, or any dielectric liquid to preserve integrity of electrodes from oxidation. Using copper-aluminium 8 cells in series I can lit up up to 30-40 white leds in parallel with just a single capacitor 10v 100uF electrolitic and nothing else as you can see on my channel … after nearly 2 years the system works as it was from beginning and oxidation using deionised water is present in small amount only on the part where electrodes were exposed to air. But, I used clamp connectors between electrodes without direct contact between dissimilar electrodes. If you can make your own electrets using teflon tape results are impressive when water is replaced with electrets and very good insulation/encapsulation is used … non-toxic and tens or hundreds years of usage per every cell. I have found an expired patent for making electrets from teflon tape pretty easy which last 20-200 years if made under right conditions (dry atmosphere) and can be done in minutes once you have created required medium. This type of generators can be manufactured using another expired patent of Arie Melis deGeus. In meantime I have tested Lorrie Matchett single rod capacitive coupling and Don Smith iron rod methods which are pretty much same and they show excellent results … no need for grid power as per Lorrie method if you employ an inverter and battery as D Smith says in his patent. D Smith method seems to be more efficient and not very complicated using off the shelf components or even scrap materials. After analysing Lorrie M method looks obvious in D Smith method is shown a connections which may not be made to allow zero consumption on the load if you use soft iron rod as per patent. But, because you like LEDs setups i can suggest to think about optocouplers, their gain and try 1 yellow led panel being exposed to a same size white led panel in an enclosure and check the current output.😉 eventually a smaller white led panel with a fresnel lens focused on yellow led panel might work better where you may need less power for white led panel. FIAT LUX !
Great info, thanks Caesarus! I used to mostly avoid magnesium, due to it getting eaten quickly, but then found a deal for cheap and still have most of it. Every Mg thing on my channel uses it and it's got to be 10 years old by now lol. The atmosphere is getting through the bag though! We also have very high humidity here so that doesn't help (or with the teflon tape method). Nephilim Penny is a large pancake osc that ran 24/7 for 12 years until moving house, uses Mg and Cu, with the Mg being replaced every 3 months. Limiting such degradation is very interesting and the teflon tape method definitely appeals. Must also revisit Don Smith's methods, I last looked at that when John Bedini was still around. Hmm, a 'Devils Toybox' of mirrors may be interesting for LED light harvesting.
@ also, in long term run replacing magnesium with aluminium looks much more attractive in terms of cost and availability, even for less power density. Copper/magnesium 100%, copper/zinc 60%, copper/aluminium 35% in terms of output per cubic meter … the last one yield less maintenance cost in long run time but the volume of the build for decent power rise very high and heavy. … this is only in terms of diy at home with low skills and resources.
@@Caesarus2011 I'agree with your figures and thoughts. I also agree about the low skill and resources at home lol, though that is basically the channel! 😀
Nice project! You could use a clothes peg for the connection. Outlining the numbers improved things, might work better if you used tin foil for the outlining. Thank you for sharing!
Many Thanks (great posting name btw). Clothes pegs are a very decent idea, though my wife bought some recently and they keep falling apart. Mind you, they'd probably work better for magnesium than clothes! Outlining did work out well. In fact, as probably noticed, the section about batteries was re-shot later due to rain noise and the outlines were already done. We have a tin roof and I was practically shouting in the first take lol
Amazing. Seems to be endless how many led we can get blinking this way. I had 16 blue lined up a while ago. Is it endless? Also with a lower value of the blocking resistor I got them appearing almost permanently shining…I think like 10 to 20 cicles per sec….
Good point on the total amount possible. What I see is a reduction in brightness with extra LED's on same power level, but it's very gradual. 16 might look similar to 24, but when put side by side there would be a distinct brightness level difference. Add in air core coils and I really did have no idea lol. Did note also that around 6 seconds is the flashing time after 'power' is removed, compared to typically over 30 seconds with ferrite based coils.
@@MilkywayOutcast They do work fine, but ferrite definitely gives a boost. Can be seen if you make an air core to just a bit larger than a ferrite rod, then put it on the ferrite rod 😀 In fact, the next video is about using ferrite.... am shooting the thing on New Years Eve lol
Ferrite makes it a bit more efficient especially considering you can get close to three orders of magnitude more inductance with the same coil. Plus coupling is generally better.
Slider's wife, here, dropping by to wish everyone a happy, safe, peaceful, and successful New Year! Thank you all for your continued support! ❤❤
That's nothing. I once saw an entire city powered by nothing but a single drop of rain water and a nuclear power plant.
LMAO 🤣
Nice one Andy and all the best for 2025 😀
I powered a few LEDs with drops of water dripping on titanium coated glass and a bit of ptfe tape. You could just drip the water over it and it creates static charge enough to light multiple leds. It was inspired by an article where they did the same thing and powered 200leds with just drops of water.
Really interesting about the static and must be something like a triboelectric effect. Quite fascinating. Congrats on your success!
Hmm, I may have used a paperclip at sometime, but I don't remember it. However that sounds like a good idea, so I will try to remember that for next time 🤣🤣👍👍 and flashing 25 LEDs is impressive 🌞🌞😎😎
I thought the arrangement of the LEDs was going to flash SLIDER 💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡
And of course, HAPPY NEW YEAR 🎆🎆🎇🎇 when it happens 🤣🤣
I was sure it was you! How bizarre if not and if you then DO use a paperclip and it works. That would be some kind of time shifting paradox thing LOL. Hmm, I wonder how fast your new F1 Radio Shack car can go around in circles... it worked for Superman 🤣
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan Was going to try 'Thanks For Watching' with some kind of Slayer Exciter circuit and use on end screens of vids, but there were no way enough LED's in my stash. Luckily the end of the year was happening!
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan A very Happy New Year to you too squire - can't wait for your silver play plaque arrival vid!
Nice work. I love little circuits like this.
Put a peak detector and switch between the output and the LED anodes and the LEDs will stay lit once the capacitor has a sufficient charge. While the LEDs are off, it will continue to charge the cap. It may take some time to charge initially, but it does work. I used something similar on a ridiculous joke circuit I built years ago.
Great thought. I was going to let it simply light them with very little in the way of a cap, but the 470uF definitely helped for brightness, so left it like that.
Hope you have a great New Year and thanks for posting! 😀
The volume of water is not really a factor in things like this. As long as electrons (and ions) can be transferred between the electrodes, it should work fine. If memory serves me well you could actually lay one electrode on top of the other with a piece of wet paper between them. Yes ... I am a science teacher - why do you ask? :)
Thanks Mr science teacher 😀
Yes, indeed, wet paper would work. It just surprised me how well it continued to run. Normally, surface area has played quite a large part in needed current and this didn't seem to care at all. One of those times when size reduction and further size reduction ends up being ridiculous to what was originally planned.
All the best for 2025!
@@Slider2732_LEDs can run at tiny amounts of current, that's why an LED flashlight can still work even with slightly crusty/leaky batteries, as long as they still have some power left. As long as you have metals with a different electronegativity and some form of charge carrier, you can get some current. Touching them together (galvanic reaction) or even just holding them with your hands can get a tiny charge (some science museums have a display where you put your hands on metal plates or rods to move a microammeter).
Now I wonder, how much energy does it produce at what amperage?
Output is roughly 1.4V at about 2mA. Not a lot and will sag over time as the magnesium oxidizes. Also, this magnesium is about 10 years old, from a reel of it that is now a dark grey in colour. But, other projects have run for about 3 months at a time before the magnesium needs to be replaced.
Great video, happy New Year.
Thank you Johan. All the very best for 2025 😀
Great job! Thank you for posting.
Happy New Year 🎉🎉
Thank You for watching and posting. Do have a Happy New Year too! 😀
I had made a flashlight with this joule thief circuit and it used to make a high pitched noise (a transformer wine) as I had used a toroid it was so fun listening to it
They can make an awful high pitched piercing noise, yep... until age silences them. I have loads of circuits around here and CRT TV's that mysteriously now run quietly. Anyone younger than 35 can probably hear our house from 2 miles away 🤣
@@Slider2732_ lol 😂 you're right at certain age we stop hearing high frequency sounds
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Waoo ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉 happy new year
Thanks Desi 😀
The very best to you and family for the New Year too!
@@Slider2732_ th-cam.com/users/shortspv74t_wpaIQ?si=J5jtPwyk-PK8K7YY
Look free energy thing but i liked🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
why did you decide to use a coil without a ferrite ring?
Because I had no idea if it would work 😀
Thought it should, but didn't know, hence the idea for the video. As it also happened, it had been raining for several days and that prompted making it run from water.
Hello my good friend. You could have had a great thumbnail with "Power from Volcanoes, Hydrogen and Oxygen." H2O Rain + Sulpher from volcanoes to make diluted sulfuric acid. Otherwise known as acid rain. When back in New Lab one of my listed projects is to get a dead car battery and revive it purely with rain water. Charged with solar panel and see how long it runs for on a suitable load. Happy New Year to you and Julie.
Thanks Ray and I hope you have a wonderful New Year!
Yes, I suppose acid rain is part way related for a car battery. In the 1970's you could have probably driven out to the Manchester mills and put the empty battery on the ground, waited 10 minutes for it to rain and driven the car back home using that battery! 🤔🥺🤐
Good luck with the project, I'll tune in for certain 😀
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Very nice setup ❤
If you explore further you may find it can work with 1x1 mm electrodes or even smaller if you can make connections reliable. With few cells in series the leds will stay on all time as long as there is at least 1 molecule of water for each cell. The problem with copper-magnesium is when you put them in series they must not have direct contact as magnesium gets destroyed at contact points. Also, you can get a voltage even if you use acetone instead of water, or any dielectric liquid to preserve integrity of electrodes from oxidation.
Using copper-aluminium 8 cells in series I can lit up up to 30-40 white leds in parallel with just a single capacitor 10v 100uF electrolitic and nothing else as you can see on my channel … after nearly 2 years the system works as it was from beginning and oxidation using deionised water is present in small amount only on the part where electrodes were exposed to air. But, I used clamp connectors between electrodes without direct contact between dissimilar electrodes.
If you can make your own electrets using teflon tape results are impressive when water is replaced with electrets and very good insulation/encapsulation is used … non-toxic and tens or hundreds years of usage per every cell.
I have found an expired patent for making electrets from teflon tape pretty easy which last 20-200 years if made under right conditions (dry atmosphere) and can be done in minutes once you have created required medium. This type of generators can be manufactured using another expired patent of Arie Melis deGeus.
In meantime I have tested Lorrie Matchett single rod capacitive coupling and Don Smith iron rod methods which are pretty much same and they show excellent results … no need for grid power as per Lorrie method if you employ an inverter and battery as D Smith says in his patent. D Smith method seems to be more efficient and not very complicated using off the shelf components or even scrap materials. After analysing Lorrie M method looks obvious in D Smith method is shown a connections which may not be made to allow zero consumption on the load if you use soft iron rod as per patent.
But, because you like LEDs setups i can suggest to think about optocouplers, their gain and try 1 yellow led panel being exposed to a same size white led panel in an enclosure and check the current output.😉 eventually a smaller white led panel with a fresnel lens focused on yellow led panel might work better where you may need less power for white led panel. FIAT LUX !
Great info, thanks Caesarus!
I used to mostly avoid magnesium, due to it getting eaten quickly, but then found a deal for cheap and still have most of it. Every Mg thing on my channel uses it and it's got to be 10 years old by now lol. The atmosphere is getting through the bag though! We also have very high humidity here so that doesn't help (or with the teflon tape method).
Nephilim Penny is a large pancake osc that ran 24/7 for 12 years until moving house, uses Mg and Cu, with the Mg being replaced every 3 months. Limiting such degradation is very interesting and the teflon tape method definitely appeals. Must also revisit Don Smith's methods, I last looked at that when John Bedini was still around.
Hmm, a 'Devils Toybox' of mirrors may be interesting for LED light harvesting.
@ also, in long term run replacing magnesium with aluminium looks much more attractive in terms of cost and availability, even for less power density. Copper/magnesium 100%, copper/zinc 60%, copper/aluminium 35% in terms of output per cubic meter … the last one yield less maintenance cost in long run time but the volume of the build for decent power rise very high and heavy. … this is only in terms of diy at home with low skills and resources.
@@Caesarus2011 I'agree with your figures and thoughts. I also agree about the low skill and resources at home lol, though that is basically the channel! 😀
Slider's wife, here. Interesting information! Thank you for generously sharing your findings! ❤️❤️
Very nice build, and quite amazing driving 25 led's, that's a keeper for sure. All the best for new year 👍.
All the best to you too, John 😁Thanks also for your kind support in the comments section.
Well done, Slider! ❤❤
Thank You!
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Happy New Year to you too 👍
Nice project! You could use a clothes peg for the connection. Outlining the numbers improved things, might work better if you used tin foil for the outlining. Thank you for sharing!
Many Thanks (great posting name btw). Clothes pegs are a very decent idea, though my wife bought some recently and they keep falling apart. Mind you, they'd probably work better for magnesium than clothes! Outlining did work out well. In fact, as probably noticed, the section about batteries was re-shot later due to rain noise and the outlines were already done. We have a tin roof and I was practically shouting in the first take lol
cool
Thanks and Happy New Year 😀
Amazing. Seems to be endless how many led we can get blinking this way. I had 16 blue lined up a while ago. Is it endless? Also with a lower value of the blocking resistor I got them appearing almost permanently shining…I think like 10 to 20 cicles per sec….
Good point on the total amount possible. What I see is a reduction in brightness with extra LED's on same power level, but it's very gradual. 16 might look similar to 24, but when put side by side there would be a distinct brightness level difference. Add in air core coils and I really did have no idea lol. Did note also that around 6 seconds is the flashing time after 'power' is removed, compared to typically over 30 seconds with ferrite based coils.
@@Slider2732_ interesting. So the air oils are not as power full.
@@MilkywayOutcast They do work fine, but ferrite definitely gives a boost. Can be seen if you make an air core to just a bit larger than a ferrite rod, then put it on the ferrite rod 😀
In fact, the next video is about using ferrite.... am shooting the thing on New Years Eve lol
@Slider2732_ coool. Looking forward to see it.
Ferrite makes it a bit more efficient especially considering you can get close to three orders of magnitude more inductance with the same coil. Plus coupling is generally better.