Many years ago we switched from the 3 wire bales to those large bales. The idea was to reduce the handling cost. An additional benefit was that they were harder to steal. One day we came back in the morning and found a small pickup truck next to a 12 foot high stack of the bales at the roadside waiting to be picked up. The person with the truck had parked it and then gotten up on the top of the stack and pushed one of the bales off into the truck bed. In our hay these bales were typically 2300 pounds. We found the truck with the bed about 6 inches off the ground and pretty well crushed. The police came and towed the truck away and went looking for the owner.
My Dad and Grandpa had a row binder when I was a kid in the early 1940's and would bring in a lot of bundled feed. They would make a large stack behind the ol barn next to a belt driven feed grinder. There was a large fan on the grinder that blew the ground feed to a cyclone on top of the barn. The air and dust went out the top, and the feed dropped in a bin in the barn. Grandpa would haul in loads of tumble weeds, sunflowers, garden residue and anything else he could get that would go thru the grinder. He put that mixture in the feed trough, and would dribble some molasses on it and the cows would eat it all. Grandpa would laugh and say he thought those cows would even eat a dead fish if it had some syrup on it. Mr Engles,, thank you for your time to make the great videos !!!
Now a little science behind it. I had a nutritionist at The Ohio State University tell me a number of years ago that the processors incorporated into a baler was the greatest invention in agriculture in a hundred years. The smaller the particle size in the stomach the more bacteria that can attach to it to help digest. Your process is great for small scale, that tub grinder is great for large scale but I'm in between and I need to get a new baler that has a processor built in!
Great stuff Dave. Where I come from in Norfolk, UK, the old boys would afford you the highest accolade a man (or a woman) could achieve. 'He's a worker'.
I lived in a rural area for over 30 years, and occassionally helped a neighbour bring in hay. Cutting hay with a chainsaw is a new one on me. Good logic behind it though, hay if your buying it, can get darned expensive. I've never seen a grinder as big as the one in the finalminutes of your video. Yet another niche business.
I always enjoy your trips to the ranch, thanks for bringing us along. You made no mention of how the watering is working so appears that is working well. Your recent bitter cold weather should have put it to a good test.
The grinder I think makes it more palatable and therefore easier and quicker to digest. One reason in the UK we chop silage especially for beef animals, cows are better on non chopped if they're not feeding calves or milking.
The guy that used to live behind me had a chipper similar to that. He would buy a bunch of bulk mulch and shovel it all into the chipper then turn the chipper and shovel the pile in again. He did that 3 or 4 times until it was really small chips then spread it out across his garden and tilled it in. It helped keep the soil loose and as it decomposed it put nutrients back into the soil. He had a huge garden for a city property and grew an amazing amount of vegetables in it. After he and his wife passed his son planted grass in the whole area to make it more sellable. The guy who lives there now has to mow that whole area really slow to keep from stalling out his mower because the ground is so rich and fertile and the grass grows really fast and thick.
Tribes in the Amazon basin did the same thing with the extremely nutrient poor soils there. Only difference is they used charcoal. Even a 1000 years later you can see where this was done, and the soil in those areas is still "better" than the areas where the process was not done.
You may be interested in knowing a tool that used to be used for this purpose -- the Weymouth pattern hay knife, sometimes known as a "Lightning" hay knife after the brand they were first sold under. Most you find these days are in rough shape but I re-grind them for folks fairly frequently. They resemble a saw but the teeth are large and like knife blades, and hollow-ground, with the tip double-edged like a spear. Goes through hay like butter if you keep it well-ground and sharpened. I used to use one all the time to cut round bales down to size.
I helped tend about 30 head of dairy cows for a couple of summers before I went in the service, SW Ohio back in the late ‘70’s. There was a bank barn, small bail hay in the top and a chute led down to the walkway behind the mangers on the bottom floor. We didn’t cut up the hay but they did get a good bit of grain too. There was another chute that led to a wheelbarrow on a track, dump the grain on the second floor from a wagon and get to shoveling. The funny part was we’d bed them down in the barn once a week and the straw went down the same chute as the hay, the cows would stand around and watch you spread it and each one always laid down in exactly the same place! If they figured you wasn’t working fast enough they would lean on you while you were trying to work. Once ya got to know them, they really had some personality. Enjoyable work and good memories. 👍
Genius thanks for solving our problems with our pigs not eating as much alfalfa hay as we give them. We raise grazing kuni kuni pigs for those who may think differently
That is pampering your beef, chewing their food before they eat it. Learned something new today Dave, never seen that done before. That would cut down on some of the waste. Looks great around there, stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
Back in the 70's there was a guy I knew that used a similar approach for another kind of leafy green substance...but in his case he used a blender to do the grinding. He said that his customers liked it because the stems would be ground enough to not poke holes through the "wrapping paper" and it added more weight for the sale for him.
Brought back memories of Dad's hay knife for this 6 year old in 1948. Cutting the straw and hay stacks in south central Pennsylvania. Probably blacksmith made. Thanks for taking us.
Animals are very intelligent and your cows ain't no different. I grow up in a farm until I migrate to the UK were I live now I know to well how cows are picky.
Well when you think about it, those stems are now pre-chewed.... That has gotta make life a little easier for the cows. Actually I think this video shows exactly why chaff cutters were invented. Taking a less palatable feed stock and making it more palatable for the animals.
*- Dave, this is a physical chemistry experiment.* *- Digesting low chlorophyll stalks uses a lot of energy to get little in return.* *- Atomizing the stalk length reduces digestion energy consumption, and increases return.* *- Being Persnickety, I would have to say that the energy cost of your time and charging the saw battery may still yield an increase of $ sale per pound of beef sold ... but the whole chore is a waste of time.* *- On the other hand...being Contrary to letting paid for hay go to waste provides great fun {and satisfaction} in getting that hay used, and interesting copy for TH-cam all at the same time.*
What a brilliant idea, using a chainsaw and regrinding the more stem y hay...probably the most nutritious part. I hope you are using the term red-neck to mean a self reliant, ingenious, non-wasteful man/human...as I'm a female and under that definition I fit in mostly. First time watching, but not the last, thanks for sharing.
I always figured that the reason cows left the stemmy stuff is because, after they eat the leafy stuff, it starts to lose its smell. Maybe grinding it up refreshes the odor?
I can remember one farm supply catalog many years ago selling a bar and chain for a saw specially for cutting hay baled. Was a 4ft bar with a special chain. Needed a 60cc or bigger saw This was many years ago
Around here is mostly dairy cows which get fed a lot of corn silage that is piled up in concrete bunkers with plastic over the the pile. They use a big dangerous looking attachment that goes on a bobcat to chew off sections of the compressed pile and then use a front loader to pick it up and dump into a feeder. I drive by one farm that is usually chewing on the pile when I am on my way to work. That attachment always makes me think it would be great in a zombie apocalypse!
Did that with big round bales,the big squares I would cut in half and flip into the stall to store.If you run the saw cutting with the top of the bar it will pull less hay into the bar.
I'm guessing that you don't use 'vegetable oil' or strawberry flavoured ice cream oil on the chainsaw's chain other than maybe for a special treat. (9:23)
Watching you go through the process of grinding the hay and cutting bales with the chain saw one observation came to mind, content spoiled cows, but, farming is 24/7 job that takes what it takes to keep everything going. I like it young man, I enjoyed the video.
@@bluecollar58 I feel like 90 more often than not, but I also use that expression when I run into someone I know but can’t remember their name, or young lady if the case requires it. I am closer to 90 than 60 though! You have a good day youngster😉😁
@@bluecollar58 I can assure you, anything I post in comment sections of any YT video has never meant or intended to be disrespectful sir. I was never raised that way. It has been my observation that the intent of any comment on/ in text, e-mails, and comments are subject to misinterpretation. Engels Coach Shop has great content and I also enjoy reading the subscribers comments as well, his channel has got some great subscribers. Thank you for your input, I pray you have a good evening and I wish you the best. Terry
*- Dave, I always loved the word Persnickety.* *- It is the gentlrified version of the Northern N.H. temperment.* *- Level two version is the normal Cussed, Ornery, and Crotchety.* *- Level three is what made the Hells Angles leave land in a hurry that they paid $100's K cash for.*
my wife and I have the same chipper and it is a little Beast, I used to own a portable feed mille and i used to grind a lot of hay along with corn and oats and mixed in good old Black strap Molases and the cows loved it.
As I was watching this I kept thinking that Dave's pets would grin from ear to ear if he would drizzle a little molasses in with it. I remember when I was a kid I would stick my head down in the feed box to smell the molasses. But, it smelled a bit better than it tasted.
Never thought of using chain saw to cut hay.That’s why I really enjoy your videos. Dave I truly wish and would love to see your small farm and meet you and Diana Just a small town Hoosier where it has been cold. Thanks so much for videos
I've enjoyed all of your play place videos. I especially liked the pole barn vids and water tank construction. Very relaxing. I like work, I could watch you work all day. Old joke penalty on that one! One of the things I like most is how you improvise to use your materials at hand and your technical abilities to transform your mental plans into a successful project that meets your expectations. That's fun!
Dave just a side note I like the way you use the whole bale but when using small motors everybody should throttle them down to idle before shutting them off. Shutting an engine off at full throttle will cause the fuel to wash down the cylinder there for creating a lot of ware because the gas is coming in to the cylinder at full RPM and the gas washes the oil off the cylinder causing a dry piston to move up and down with no lubrication.
The suggestion from our neighbour's father was to use the chainsaw, but put the blade on backwards (you don't need sharp teeth to cut the bale?) and to run the chain dry (more wear, but no oil on the feed?)
15:30 mark, this is the same cyclone type grinder used in the orchard industry for grinding old fruit/nut trees into usable compost, or fuel for steam turbines.
Dave I watch Acres of Clay dairy a small family farm. They bought and repaired a tractor driven bale grinder a couple years ago, Now grind all their hay to mix in the TMR mixer. When does one of them go to freezer camp?
That was a fun video Dave, thank you. I love feeding big squares but sometimes we get the big rounds. I have trouble with the grass hay rounds exploding when I set them on the flat and try to flake them off. I've seen where guys set them on the round and slowly cut them in half one flake at a time with an old fashioned hay saw. I'm going to have to give that a try.
I used to cut up round bales with a chainsaw to feed in the barn. That was before the electric chainsaws they have now. The saw I used had the muffler on the side, where most saws have the exhaust in the front. Those won't take long to set a bale on fire. I've had dry logs smolder when cutting with a front exhaust saw. Just a word of caution. Love your videos!
As I was watching your video showing how you prepare hay for cattle feed, I was wondering if it would help to have a wheel barrow next to the large bales you are cutting up with the chainsaw. You could load a larger quantity of the cut hay material and easily transport it over to your feeding station. Just a suggestion of course. Thanks Dave for another visit to your outdoor play area!
It didn't look like they removed any of the rope or netting whatever holds bales together. All that plastics being fed to those cows. I'm talking about when they ground them up.
Wish I could afford one of those grinders. Thought about doing some corn stalk or whatever you call it. And I am trying to work out the chicken feed thing. Prices here doubled.
Looks like me making mulch out of leaves, tall grass, and small sticks. I had no clue that a need for hay grinding existed. How about using some tasty molasses as bar oil?
I suggest a mud flap on the discharge. A lot of stuff is blowing away when you process it. What was the crop for the first bale shown? Very gnarly stems. To date I have scrapped 14 Makita battery powered tools due to price and or availability of batteries.
And people sed I spoild my animal's 😂 that's alright. I like it I hope you use corn oil or olive oil for your bar oil ! It's the simple things in life that makes it better.😂
Thats a great use of the flail chopper. I hadn't considered that before for stemmy hay. Would it be worth your time to hang a small rubber flap on the discharge chute to minimize the distance the chopped product is thrown? Just an idea.
Many years ago we switched from the 3 wire bales to those large bales. The idea was to reduce the handling cost. An additional benefit was that they were harder to steal. One day we came back in the morning and found a small pickup truck next to a 12 foot high stack of the bales at the roadside waiting to be picked up. The person with the truck had parked it and then gotten up on the top of the stack and pushed one of the bales off into the truck bed. In our hay these bales were typically 2300 pounds. We found the truck with the bed about 6 inches off the ground and pretty well crushed. The police came and towed the truck away and went looking for the owner.
Nice story!
That's funny 😂
I have no idea what a bale of hay cost , but it can’t be as much as a pick up. Lol.
Wow!
@@bluecollar58 Ahh. . . . . That depends on weather it was before or after it got pancaked :-)
My Dad and Grandpa had a row binder when I was a kid in the early 1940's and would bring in a lot of bundled feed. They would make a large stack behind the ol barn next to a belt driven feed grinder. There was a large fan on the grinder that blew the ground feed to a cyclone on top of the barn. The air and dust went out the top, and the feed dropped in a bin in the barn. Grandpa would haul in loads of tumble weeds, sunflowers, garden residue and anything else he could get that would go thru the grinder. He put that mixture in the feed trough, and would dribble some molasses on it and the cows would eat it all. Grandpa would laugh and say he thought those cows would even eat a dead fish if it had some syrup on it. Mr Engles,, thank you for your time to make the great videos !!!
Those cows really have you trained pretty well.
Now a little science behind it. I had a nutritionist at The Ohio State University tell me a number of years ago that the processors incorporated into a baler was the greatest invention in agriculture in a hundred years. The smaller the particle size in the stomach the more bacteria that can attach to it to help digest.
Your process is great for small scale, that tub grinder is great for large scale but I'm in between and I need to get a new baler that has a processor built in!
Great stuff Dave. Where I come from in Norfolk, UK, the old boys would afford you the highest accolade a man (or a woman) could achieve.
'He's a worker'.
They call you a “ Hand “ here.
Glad someone is able to keep the notion of a small family farm alive.
I lived in a rural area for over 30 years, and occassionally helped a neighbour bring in hay. Cutting hay with a chainsaw is a new one on me. Good logic behind it though, hay if your buying it, can get darned expensive. I've never seen a grinder as big as the one in the finalminutes of your video. Yet another niche business.
I always enjoy your trips to the ranch, thanks for bringing us along. You made no mention of how the watering is working so appears that is working well. Your recent bitter cold weather should have put it to a good test.
The grinder I think makes it more palatable and therefore easier and quicker to digest. One reason in the UK we chop silage especially for beef animals, cows are better on non chopped if they're not feeding calves or milking.
The guy that used to live behind me had a chipper similar to that. He would buy a bunch of bulk mulch and shovel it all into the chipper then turn the chipper and shovel the pile in again. He did that 3 or 4 times until it was really small chips then spread it out across his garden and tilled it in. It helped keep the soil loose and as it decomposed it put nutrients back into the soil. He had a huge garden for a city property and grew an amazing amount of vegetables in it. After he and his wife passed his son planted grass in the whole area to make it more sellable. The guy who lives there now has to mow that whole area really slow to keep from stalling out his mower because the ground is so rich and fertile and the grass grows really fast and thick.
Tribes in the Amazon basin did the same thing with the extremely nutrient poor soils there. Only difference is they used charcoal.
Even a 1000 years later you can see where this was done, and the soil in those areas is still "better" than the areas where the process was not done.
Did you ever mention to your new neighbor why his yard grows so well?
@@johnwright6706 I've told him about the garden but not all the extras that were added to the soil
Reminds me of the cows my grandfather kept…we named them. Sir Loin of Beef, T Bone, Ribeye. Back in the good ol’ days.
Your battery powered chainsaw is today’s equivalent of the traditional hay knife I used as a kid to cut the unbaled mowed and stacked hay of my youth.
You may be interested in knowing a tool that used to be used for this purpose -- the Weymouth pattern hay knife, sometimes known as a "Lightning" hay knife after the brand they were first sold under. Most you find these days are in rough shape but I re-grind them for folks fairly frequently. They resemble a saw but the teeth are large and like knife blades, and hollow-ground, with the tip double-edged like a spear. Goes through hay like butter if you keep it well-ground and sharpened. I used to use one all the time to cut round bales down to size.
I helped tend about 30 head of dairy cows for a couple of summers before I went in the service, SW Ohio back in the late ‘70’s. There was a bank barn, small bail hay in the top and a chute led down to the walkway behind the mangers on the bottom floor. We didn’t cut up the hay but they did get a good bit of grain too. There was another chute that led to a wheelbarrow on a track, dump the grain on the second floor from a wagon and get to shoveling. The funny part was we’d bed them down in the barn once a week and the straw went down the same chute as the hay, the cows would stand around and watch you spread it and each one always laid down in exactly the same place! If they figured you wasn’t working fast enough they would lean on you while you were trying to work. Once ya got to know them, they really had some personality. Enjoyable work and good memories. 👍
No problems Dave, just post the opportunity and we'll be there. Mike.
Genius thanks for solving our problems with our pigs not eating as much alfalfa hay as we give them. We raise grazing kuni kuni pigs for those who may think differently
That is pampering your beef, chewing their food before they eat it. Learned something new today Dave, never seen that done before. That would cut down on some of the waste. Looks great around there, stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
Back in the 70's there was a guy I knew that used a similar approach for another kind of leafy green substance...but in his case he used a blender to do the grinding.
He said that his customers liked it because the stems would be ground enough to not poke holes through the "wrapping paper" and it added more weight for the sale for him.
Brought back memories of Dad's hay knife for this 6 year old in 1948. Cutting the straw and hay stacks in south central Pennsylvania. Probably blacksmith made. Thanks for taking us.
Beautiful condition and they love the food.
I found it enjoyable to watch what most people would consider WORK but Dave considers it PLAYTIME! His happiness is my happiness.
Sehr gutes Wetter bei euch. Toller Film. Die Landschaft ist sehr schön. Deine Rinder haben es gut bei dir. Grüße aus Deutschland. 🇩🇪😊
Animals are very intelligent and your cows ain't no different.
I grow up in a farm until I migrate to the UK were I live now I know to well how cows are picky.
Any way to keep the cows happy always works. Thank you for sharing Dave.
Well when you think about it, those stems are now pre-chewed....
That has gotta make life a little easier for the cows.
Actually I think this video shows exactly why chaff cutters were invented. Taking a less palatable feed stock and making it more palatable for the animals.
That was my thoughts,keeping them happy
Dave,
Try putting some olive oil in the bar oiler... the cows will enjoy their salads even more!
All the best. Stay warm!
Thanks a lot, just the thought of standing in front of that chute got me sneezing.
Nice job. The cows always have full bellies.
*- Dave, this is a physical chemistry experiment.*
*- Digesting low chlorophyll stalks uses a lot of energy to get little in return.*
*- Atomizing the stalk length reduces digestion energy consumption, and increases return.*
*- Being Persnickety, I would have to say that the energy cost of your time and charging the saw battery may still yield an increase of $ sale per pound of beef sold ... but the whole chore is a waste of time.*
*- On the other hand...being Contrary to letting paid for hay go to waste provides great fun {and satisfaction} in getting that hay used, and interesting copy for TH-cam all at the same time.*
This is a lovely varied thing, these videos from the wheelwrights. A lot of contentment oozing out of all the films.
When I am getting saw dust for smoking fish I use vegetable oil in the bar tastes better 👍
As bar oil
Wow, that big hay grinder was pretty cool! Thats how you get the job done fast.
Once again thanks for the video.
If the boss upstairs sends me back as a cow... Well I guess I'd want to be one of yours . 🇺🇲
Very interesting about hay feeding. And that hay bail grinder was awesome.
What a brilliant idea, using a chainsaw and regrinding the more stem y hay...probably the most nutritious part. I hope you are using the term red-neck to mean a self reliant, ingenious, non-wasteful man/human...as I'm a female and under that definition I fit in mostly. First time watching, but not the last, thanks for sharing.
Dave, that looks like the perfect place for a small snowblower.
I always figured that the reason cows left the stemmy stuff is because, after they eat the leafy stuff, it starts to lose its smell. Maybe grinding it up refreshes the odor?
I can remember one farm supply catalog many years ago selling a bar and chain for a saw specially for cutting hay baled. Was a 4ft bar with a special chain.
Needed a 60cc or bigger saw
This was many years ago
Around here is mostly dairy cows which get fed a lot of corn silage that is piled up in concrete bunkers with plastic over the the pile. They use a big dangerous looking attachment that goes on a bobcat to chew off sections of the compressed pile and then use a front loader to pick it up and dump into a feeder. I drive by one farm that is usually chewing on the pile when I am on my way to work. That attachment always makes me think it would be great in a zombie apocalypse!
Did that with big round bales,the big squares I would cut in half and flip into the stall to store.If you run the saw cutting with the top of the bar it will pull less hay into the bar.
I'm guessing that you don't use 'vegetable oil' or strawberry flavoured ice cream oil on the chainsaw's chain other than maybe for a special treat. (9:23)
Watching you go through the process of grinding the hay and cutting bales with the chain saw one observation came to mind, content spoiled cows, but, farming is 24/7 job that takes what it takes to keep everything going. I like it young man, I enjoyed the video.
Young Man ? You have to be in your Nineties to get away with that.
@@bluecollar58😅
@@bluecollar58 I feel like 90 more often than not, but I also use that expression when I run into someone I know but can’t remember their name, or young lady if the case requires it. I am closer to 90 than 60 though! You have a good day youngster😉😁
@@terryrogers1025 , it’s disrespectful at any age and you should stop.
@@bluecollar58 I can assure you, anything I post in comment sections of any YT video has never meant or intended to be disrespectful sir. I was never raised that way. It has been my observation that the intent of any comment on/ in text, e-mails, and comments are subject to misinterpretation. Engels Coach Shop has great content and I also enjoy reading the subscribers comments as well, his channel has got some great subscribers. Thank you for your input, I pray you have a good evening and I wish you the best. Terry
Alot of people don't know taking care of cows is an everyday thing.
For milking and high population confinement animals yes, , on range / pasture with adequate food, water, and shelter "everyday ' is not necessary
*- Dave, I always loved the word Persnickety.*
*- It is the gentlrified version of the Northern N.H. temperment.*
*- Level two version is the normal Cussed, Ornery, and Crotchety.*
*- Level three is what made the Hells Angles leave land in a hurry that they paid $100's K cash for.*
my wife and I have the same chipper and it is a little Beast, I used to own a portable feed mille and i used to grind a lot of hay along with corn and oats and mixed in good old Black strap Molases and the cows loved it.
I have one too. It’s really loud! I’m always happy to shut it off.
As I was watching this I kept thinking that Dave's pets would grin from ear to ear if he would drizzle a little molasses in with it. I remember when I was a kid I would stick my head down in the feed box to smell the molasses. But, it smelled a bit better than it tasted.
Any updates on the apartment project? Huge job I know, just curious.
Beautiful place you've got there, Dave, absolutely stunning. God bless.
Missed seeing your ‘play’ area
Never thought of using chain saw to cut hay.That’s why I really enjoy your videos. Dave I truly wish and would love to see your small farm and meet you and Diana
Just a small town Hoosier where it has been cold. Thanks so much for videos
I've enjoyed all of your play place videos. I especially liked the pole barn vids and water tank construction. Very relaxing. I like work, I could watch you work all day. Old joke penalty on that one! One of the things I like most is how you improvise to use your materials at hand and your technical abilities to transform your mental plans into a successful project that meets your expectations. That's fun!
Like the cows, it keeps him interested an interesting.
Dave just a side note I like the way you use the whole bale but when using small motors everybody should throttle them down to idle before shutting them off. Shutting an engine off at full throttle will cause the fuel to wash down the cylinder there for creating a lot of ware because the gas is coming in to the cylinder at full RPM and the gas washes the oil off the cylinder causing a dry piston to move up and down with no lubrication.
If ya have an old coarse broom screw the head to a post, Cattle really enjoy the scratching post.
Dave serves hors d'oeuvres to his herd at the gourmet deli feed lot!
I like the angled head bars, keeps them from pulling back hard and busting you gear or their head.
Looks like a washbasket might make it easier to feed that hay once you cut it up. Folks used to use a chainsaw for cutting up big round bales as well.
Good Idea that !😊
Wondering if mulching the stems is bringing internal moisture to the surface and more palatable
I use my chainsaw to cutoff any moldy spots on our70 pound small bales, as the horses will urinate on the hay. George ib Helena, Mt.
The suggestion from our neighbour's father was to use the chainsaw, but put the blade on backwards (you don't need sharp teeth to cut the bale?) and to run the chain dry (more wear, but no oil on the feed?)
Do you have to cut (with the chainsaw) the hay everyday? Or can you cut several days worth at a time? 💖🌞🌵😷
Your Dogs are looking good
Diversion from your usual routine in the shop is a good thing.
I've lived in the country around cattle all my life, and I had no idea hay grinding was a thing. Never seen it before.
Great way to keep your cows happy and save yourself some money. I will admit I have never seen hay grinding before, that was some serious machinery.
You have happy gourmet cows! I bet they would enjoy being invited in to watch a movie. Great Video!
15:30 mark, this is the same cyclone type grinder used in the orchard industry for grinding old fruit/nut trees into usable compost, or fuel for steam turbines.
Dave I watch Acres of Clay dairy a small family farm. They bought and repaired a tractor driven
bale grinder a couple years ago, Now grind all their hay to mix in the TMR mixer.
When does one of them go to freezer camp?
Add a burlap bag chute over that output to knock down the dust...
That was a fun video Dave, thank you. I love feeding big squares but sometimes we get the big rounds. I have trouble with the grass hay rounds exploding when I set them on the flat and try to flake them off. I've seen where guys set them on the round and slowly cut them in half one flake at a time with an old fashioned hay saw. I'm going to have to give that a try.
Well Dave , if I were you I'd be out there in that great scenery for a fair dollop of time . . Great trick with the chainsaw . 👍🇬🇧
I used to cut up round bales with a chainsaw to feed in the barn. That was before the electric chainsaws they have now. The saw I used had the muffler on the side, where most saws have the exhaust in the front. Those won't take long to set a bale on fire. I've had dry logs smolder when cutting with a front exhaust saw. Just a word of caution. Love your videos!
Good video Dave. you're kinda fun to hang out with
As I was watching your video showing how you prepare hay for cattle feed, I was wondering if it would help to have a wheel barrow next to the large bales you are cutting up with the chainsaw. You could load a larger quantity of the cut hay material and easily transport it over to your feeding station. Just a suggestion of course. Thanks Dave for another visit to your outdoor play area!
Nice work.Do you think that the long stalks are pricking their noses and making them picky ?
Very good idea never seen hay cut with a chain saw before
Love it Dave! I have small areas with 30 to 70 head each. As you know cattle will spread it out and sleep on it, or worse.
It didn't look like they removed any of the rope or netting whatever holds bales together. All that plastics being fed to those cows. I'm talking about when they ground them up.
Great way to do it. I do have a question though. What about the chain oil? Do you run it dry or isn't it a problem?
Vegetable oil. The cows think they're getting French fries.
I'll... uh... I'll see myself out.
You still have to run chain oil. Some guys just use regular chain oil and some use mineral oil. My horses don’t seem to care which.
I was thinking the same thing, and wondered if Dave was using vegetable oil, for the bar.
Very interesting Dave. Thanks for sharing this video with us. Stay safe.
We used to pick up the grass clippings from the folks in town and feed it to our cows. It was just a little treat for them. Like candy.
very nice thanks for sharing
Wish I could afford one of those grinders. Thought about doing some corn stalk or whatever you call it. And I am trying to work out the chicken feed thing. Prices here doubled.
I would like to see inner workings of this grinder on the outside it looks like your garden variety leaf/wood chipper,thanks for another video🤗😎🤗😎
Yes, it is.
Looks like me making mulch out of leaves, tall grass, and small sticks. I had no clue that a need for hay grinding existed. How about using some tasty molasses as bar oil?
What about the bar oil? do you replace it with olive oil? :) :) :)
wow! big scale indeed!
What chain oil do the cows like. Olive oil is a good high quality lube
Thanks
What do you use for bar oil on your chain saw when it's used for cutting the hay bails?
Possibly biodegradable?
Same as always.
Thanks Dave
Mom used an electric carving knife a little smaller than that on the Thanksgiving turkey.
I suggest a mud flap on the discharge. A lot of stuff is blowing away when you process it. What was the crop for the first bale shown? Very gnarly stems. To date I have scrapped 14 Makita battery powered tools due to price and or availability of batteries.
And people sed I spoild my animal's 😂 that's alright. I like it I hope you use corn oil or olive oil for your bar oil ! It's the simple things in life that makes it better.😂
Could you do that with a bread knife? Or a sharpened shovel? An Adze? A blade cut would make less dust from the leaves, thus even less waste.
Neat idea, but don't you worry about getting bar oil in their food?
Great to share in, you make ingenious plans ‼️‼️👊🔥
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Thats a great use of the flail chopper. I hadn't considered that before for stemmy hay. Would it be worth your time to hang a small rubber flap on the discharge chute to minimize the distance the chopped product is thrown? Just an idea.
just a thought -- iwould have brought the critters a couple of pieces of bread. i think they would be happy.
I imagine you’d have to grind a lot of hay to pay that tub grinder off.
oh it's a sad song "Down To Seeds and Stems Again Too"