This is the Dad I wish I had growing up, to teach me about mechanical things and meticulous attention to detail; not to mention, a love of motorcycles (which I found on my own when starting college).
@@shojivic That’s Great! My son and I have always enjoyed working on all kinds of projects together. He’s now 39 and doing the same thing with his kids… I’m so proud!
Lol, Brad, I absolutely ENVY your lift. I don't have the room in this garage, but the next house (pretty soon), will have some kinda huge garage once again (last house had a 3-car plus room for workbenches and cabinets - I miss that). After checking the driveshaft and lubing the splines, then performing the rear brake service and bleed, my knees, back, bad ankle, and about every other joint in my old body are just KILLING me. Next service, I'll have it on a lift. So, now it's time to max out the Naproxen dosage, and finish the job with the front brakes. Thanks a bunch for these videos: Bravo-Zulu!
Actually, I have 2 lifts. The one that sits in my garage is a hydraulic version that came from some warehouse that moved 55gal drums from one level to another, probably 5500 pound capacity...too heavy a structure to move from place to place. My second one is a 1200 pound capacity Handy Lift with a central air bag for the lift action. I keep it in my mobile 16ft maintenance trailer that I use to go to rallies where I do lots and lots of work on WetHead and ShiftHead bikes. Everything from changing tires and TPMS to full 12k service and even complete Cam and Follower replacements. I love my lifts!
Mr. Boxflyer - Thanks for taking the time to go so in depth into brake service. We've been doing it wrong - and not often enough! Thanks for resetting the bar!
Thanks for your continued support of our favourite bikes, I really appreciate the effort and care you put into each of your great videos, if you’re ever in the UK I owe you more than a few drinks 🍻
I just did the service, front and rear. The hardest part for me was getting all the front pistons to move freely during the extension prior to cleaning. Invariably, one or two would move while the others didn't. I really could have used a third hand during that part of the process. Also, I recommend that anyone doing this make up a checklist with the steps and check them off as they work. That may prevent doing stupid things like forgetting to shim the pads before bleeding (don't ask me how I know).
Seen a lot of vids on how best to look after brakes, but this is next level. The shoelace trick is so much better thank a toothbrush and brake cleaner. This is so comprehensive and explains things so well. The lapping compound analogy is really motivation to do this more often. Soon as it brightens up I'm following this method
On the shoelace method of cleaning the piston sealing face - I've been pondering on how to do that if one doesn't have a third and fourth set of hands available to hold the caliper while the first and second set of hands operates the shoelace.
@@ArcanePath360 I am thinking about this where extra hands #3 and #4 are not available: remove the brake pads per Boxflyer, then, before removing the caliper from the fork, use the brake lever to pump out the caliper pistons to contact the rotor, use the shoelace to floss the outside of the pistons, remove the caliper, lubricate the outer surfaces of the pistons, then while taking care of the master cylinder brake fluid so that it does not overflow, force the pistons all the way in, proceed per Boxflyer from there on. All comments/criticisms/suggestions appreciated. I'm just interested in getting this done right, but I don't have the extra set of hands.
Thank you so much for this video, Boxflyer. If one doesn't have properly maintained brakes, then they don't have a bike that is safe to ride. I got everything you show accomplished on my brake service for my 2000 R1150GS and 2018 R1200GS recently, but it was nowhere as logically and efficiently done as you show in this video (and thus it took me much longer to get done). One question: Is it alright to use medium strength threadlocker on the caliper attaching bolts? I recently had one back off on my 2000 R1150GS and it really frightened me seeing that so I removed all of my caliper attaching bolts on both bikes and applied Locktite 243 on all of my caliper mounting bolts before torquing them back down to the factory torque specs. I look forward to your upcoming rear brake service video and hope you will address the matter of people reporting difficulty achieving a proper rear brake bleed/firm rear brake pedal.
Medium thread locker is probably OK for the application you are talking about...but certainly not RED. The idea that a torque setting is just a calculated stretch/elastic action by a fastener would lead me to look into why your caliper bolts backed out in the first place...something else was in play here I suspect.
I notice you list orange threadlocker (high strength, removable w/ hand tools) in your comprehensive list above, but didn't see where it was used in the video.
This is outstanding, and a really nice supplement to what you already covered in the 12K service videos. And I'm happy to omit the GS-911 step, as I never quite knew what that was doing for me. On a lighter note, the shoelace trick reminded me of a recent dentist visit, where I was nagged about flossing. And the intro and closing audio is cool. DC-10 or MD-11?
Glad you liked it! I was hoping to raise awareness of doing a more in depth service of an often skimmed over step when maintaining our bikes. FedEx MD-11 Capt for 23yrs…
Hope this helps anyone who is going to be working on their brakes. The emphasis of this video is to point out the importance of replacing the brake fluid that is remaining in the caliper if you simply bleed out the bleeder screw without pushing the pistons into their bores. Cleaning and lubricating the pistons is critical as a first step in the process.
This is the Dad I wish I had growing up, to teach me about mechanical things and meticulous attention to detail; not to mention, a love of motorcycles (which I found on my own when starting college).
@@shojivic That’s Great! My son and I have always enjoyed working on all kinds of projects together. He’s now 39 and doing the same thing with his kids… I’m so proud!
Welcome back Boxflyer!!, I so look forward to your outstanding video tutorials. You are responsible for saving us thousands of dollars.... Thank you.
I like to refer to this kind of approach as "Preventative Maintenance" rather than just "Routine Maintenance"
Lol, Brad, I absolutely ENVY your lift. I don't have the room in this garage, but the next house (pretty soon), will have some kinda huge garage once again (last house had a 3-car plus room for workbenches and cabinets - I miss that). After checking the driveshaft and lubing the splines, then performing the rear brake service and bleed, my knees, back, bad ankle, and about every other joint in my old body are just KILLING me. Next service, I'll have it on a lift. So, now it's time to max out the Naproxen dosage, and finish the job with the front brakes. Thanks a bunch for these videos: Bravo-Zulu!
I have not had a BZ since I was in the US Navy! Thanks
Actually, I have 2 lifts. The one that sits in my garage is a hydraulic version that came from some warehouse that moved 55gal drums from one level to another, probably 5500 pound capacity...too heavy a structure to move from place to place. My second one is a 1200 pound capacity Handy Lift with a central air bag for the lift action. I keep it in my mobile 16ft maintenance trailer that I use to go to rallies where I do lots and lots of work on WetHead and ShiftHead bikes. Everything from changing tires and TPMS to full 12k service and even complete Cam and Follower replacements. I love my lifts!
Thanks Brad. A fabulously well explained procedure. And the timimg is perfect! I'll be replacing my brake fluid soon. Cheers from British Columbia.
I’m glad to help out.
Mr. Boxflyer - Thanks for taking the time to go so in depth into brake service. We've been doing it wrong - and not often enough! Thanks for resetting the bar!
It's an easily overlooked procedure, that once you think about it and see this approach, it makes the brakes work better for longer.
Great and very thorough explanation!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another top notch video from Boxflyer. Thank you for giving the BMW bike community another tool to help us maintain our road machines.
Thanks again!
Thanks for your continued support of our favourite bikes, I really appreciate the effort and care you put into each of your great videos, if you’re ever in the UK I owe you more than a few drinks 🍻
Thanks for the offer, but I don’t drink…
@@Boxflyer11 funny enough neither do I now, I quit last year and have never felt better. 👍👍
Outstanding video…!!
Very detailed…..
Thank you for sharing this….
Glad you liked it!
Great detailed video. Thanks for the great work and download sheets. Mike
Very welcome!
I just did the service, front and rear. The hardest part for me was getting all the front pistons to move freely during the extension prior to cleaning. Invariably, one or two would move while the others didn't. I really could have used a third hand during that part of the process. Also, I recommend that anyone doing this make up a checklist with the steps and check them off as they work. That may prevent doing stupid things like forgetting to shim the pads before bleeding (don't ask me how I know).
It will be a much easier job the next time you do the service...thanks for the report and tips.
Seen a lot of vids on how best to look after brakes, but this is next level. The shoelace trick is so much better thank a toothbrush and brake cleaner. This is so comprehensive and explains things so well. The lapping compound analogy is really motivation to do this more often. Soon as it brightens up I'm following this method
Yes, this method done more often, can not only extend the life of the components, but ensure better, safer braking.
@@Boxflyer11 Thanks for all your expertise and great to see you uploading again
On the shoelace method of cleaning the piston sealing face - I've been pondering on how to do that if one doesn't have a third and fourth set of hands available to hold the caliper while the first and second set of hands operates the shoelace.
@@louisgara8754 Good point. Might be time to get innovative with speed clamps
@@ArcanePath360 I am thinking about this where extra hands #3 and #4 are not available: remove the brake pads per Boxflyer, then, before removing the caliper from the fork, use the brake lever to pump out the caliper pistons to contact the rotor, use the shoelace to floss the outside of the pistons, remove the caliper, lubricate the outer surfaces of the pistons, then while taking care of the master cylinder brake fluid so that it does not overflow, force the pistons all the way in, proceed per Boxflyer from there on. All comments/criticisms/suggestions appreciated. I'm just interested in getting this done right, but I don't have the extra set of hands.
Thank you so much for this video, Boxflyer. If one doesn't have properly maintained brakes, then they don't have a bike that is safe to ride. I got everything you show accomplished on my brake service for my 2000 R1150GS and 2018 R1200GS recently, but it was nowhere as logically and efficiently done as you show in this video (and thus it took me much longer to get done). One question: Is it alright to use medium strength threadlocker on the caliper attaching bolts? I recently had one back off on my 2000 R1150GS and it really frightened me seeing that so I removed all of my caliper attaching bolts on both bikes and applied Locktite 243 on all of my caliper mounting bolts before torquing them back down to the factory torque specs. I look forward to your upcoming rear brake service video and hope you will address the matter of people reporting difficulty achieving a proper rear brake bleed/firm rear brake pedal.
Medium thread locker is probably OK for the application you are talking about...but certainly not RED. The idea that a torque setting is just a calculated stretch/elastic action by a fastener would lead me to look into why your caliper bolts backed out in the first place...something else was in play here I suspect.
I notice you list orange threadlocker (high strength, removable w/ hand tools) in your comprehensive list above, but didn't see where it was used in the video.
I use it anywhere that blue threadlocker would be used. I just missed putting a text box explanation of that.
This is outstanding, and a really nice supplement to what you already covered in the 12K service videos. And I'm happy to omit the GS-911 step, as I never quite knew what that was doing for me.
On a lighter note, the shoelace trick reminded me of a recent dentist visit, where I was nagged about flossing. And the intro and closing audio is cool. DC-10 or MD-11?
Glad you liked it! I was hoping to raise awareness of doing a more in depth service of an often skimmed over step when maintaining our bikes.
FedEx MD-11 Capt for 23yrs…
What a great and through video - Thanks Boxflyer!
Hope this helps anyone who is going to be working on their brakes.
The emphasis of this video is to point out the importance of replacing the brake fluid that is remaining in the caliper if you simply bleed out the bleeder screw without pushing the pistons into their bores. Cleaning and lubricating the pistons is critical as a first step in the process.
Great video, as always. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!
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You're all thumbs!