I honestly dont think these would be a common weapon. the chinese would have used halberds, poleaxes, flails, spears maces etc. the 2 handed sword they would have carried would be a changdao similar to a nodachi with more distal taper and a longer handle for counterweight. would be a sidearm like a Longsword and can probably be very effective in combat against lightly armored troops and was probably used as an anti-cavalry sword. awesome underated sword IMO. I think i read somewhere that they would have been used to defend pikemen in pike and shot style formations too. the same blade you have there would have been mounted on a much longer pole and used as a glaive.
That's only true if you talk about weapon. Dao in Chinese can apply anything that perform some sort of cut, particularly in tools. Eg. Water jet cutter, in Chinese can be called "water knife". Or laser cutter is called "laser knife". Even for edged tools, there are multi edged tools named knife too (eg. three edged carving knife). And the single (dao) vs double (Jian) edge naming for weapon only applies to Chinese sword/weapon. In specific usage, you use "jian" to refer to all swords. Eg. I collect western jian. Here the word "jian" just means swords which includes all type of Western swords, single or double edged.
@@GuitarsRockForever You're right about "dao" being a descriptor of any tool that "cuts, cleaves, slices, chops, and stabs" (stab is included in the definition I found), but "jian" in most definitions includes being "double-edged", as such, "dao" would still be the appropriate character to use for single bladed weapons. In fact, the most common name for calling the weapon showcased, would be "da dao", translated literally as "big knife", as the singular "dao" typically just translates to "knife". As for multi-edged "dao"s, it's due to "dao" being a more general term than "jian", as "jian" refers specifically to weaponry. Thus, for a tool that's not a weapon, the word would typically use "dao" along with descriptors such as "three-edged", or "three-angled". (I couldn't find what the "three-bladed knife" you mentioned was (in chinese), however the results for "three-angled knife" came to be more similar.)
@@stalcher1699 You speak Chinese? Sorry I don't know exact English translation, but I was referring to "三棱刮刀" which was an "common weapon" used by certain groups of people in the past (before my time). It is a tool, but makes a nasty weapon. It has three edges.
Chinese term is pudao. Rings were added to them in the 19th and early 20th century for wushu demo purposes (noise mostly) The original pieces you can see in various museums, most notably the royal Armouries in Leeds UK that has a number of them, they are not heavy, probably in the 3.5 to 4 lb range but balanced near the guard.
Apparently, the rings are also so if you stab/slash into something, it won't get stuck because it won't get too deep. The more... sword version (shorter), is also to basically say "Hey, i'm not going to stab you in the back, so the rings are so you can hear me" according to a wushu site.
Around 11:20, yes, your opinion is correct. The historical ones were WAY lighter. The back of the blade was no more than 2 or 3 mil and very flexible. Actually, the rings were thick and worked as extra mass to the blade. If the wielder is strong, all 9 rings are attached. If the wielder feels the blade is too heavy to maneuver, just remove some of the rings. The rings also work as a limit device to stop the blade from cutting into the flesh too far so that it will not get stuck in bone and flesh.
No way the real ones could be that heavy, in 1v1 any moderately competent adversary just keeps you in play till you're knackered, in battle you batter down the first guy and then his buddies kill you.
I used to study northern Chinese martial arts and I remember these things. The nine ring dow or as we often called them the horse cutting sword because apparently they were primarily used against cavalry by attacking the horse rather than the rider.
Yeah from everything I know that was mainly its purpose. As well as to break heavier formations. I always thought they were lighter. I wonder if that is actually a historic replica based on battle weapons.
@@dianapennepacker6854 Battle version would be much lighter around half of this replica's weight or even less. This is probably modeled after a training weapon. It has been recorded that Ming and Qing generals would use such weapons for strength training.
@@weifan9533 Yeah definitely. It would not surprise me if someone used this just for horses. A ceremonial weapon. Or as you said for a strength training weapon sounds a lot better with this, than the 100 pound ones. I've had people tell me that heroes would carry 100 pound Guandaos, and one even carried a 150 KILO GRAM trident. Just casually used in battle by heroic champions. That you know - also held off or slayed 100 enemy warriors or some other ridiculous BS as well. Basically Demi Gods of war. To be fair this was twenty years ago or longer where you had "historians" saying European swords weighed ten to twenty pounds, and regular people believed the katana was a magical armor cutting blade. A lot has changed in my life, but I remember being like give me a break. That did not happen. Stop believing in myths, hah. Yet for ceremonial and training purposes? Some made to show off or test feats of strength? Sure.
Yeah... I'm _reasonably_ certain that this Nine Ring Dao was intended for demonstrations and for training. The idea would be that if you can handle the heaviest iterations of this weapon while maintaining effective technique, the _properly_ weighted battlefield versions would be like featherweights in comparison.
@@magnemoe1 considering it was done for thousands of years across many different cultures, as is literally still used today in military training, I would say it's pretty optimal.
You’re absolutely right - it’s not technically a sword. We’ve updated our listing to reflect that it’s actually an interpretation of the Podao/Pudao. Thanks for keeping us on our toes and for this entertaining content as we had a good laugh.
You guys misspelled it. It's PoDao, not PuDao. You got the rings all wrong. Also you made it too heavy to be used as a real weapon. You should at least fix the rings so it would look good as a show piece. Just a friendly piece of input.
@@dougdu I don't think it's MEANT to be weighted like a real weapon. A lot of people here are saying that this overweight PuDao is meant for show and demonstration of strength, rather than as a practical weapon.
The key was to keep the heavy swords in fluid motion using your entire body even leading with your body into an attack. The idea is to weild it on foot as if you where riding a horse, no jirky swings no stops and starts, the weapon never stops moving. Slowing the sword down is where you get the most fatigued. Let the sword go where it wants to go, follow it don't bully it. While standing neutral with the weapon rest it against your body, also use you shoulders and mid section to put the weopon in motion and not just your arms. Think of this thing as a shotgun, once in motion it's too heavy to block or perry, doing ample damage to anything it hits.
@@BedBugss3x these are for a battle field not a duel , also cute little trick it can do you prop it at an anlge put your weight into the end of the handle and place yourself infront of a charging horse, it will kill you sure but the horse wont trample and kill 5 men.
That’s what I was thinking, now I’m no means a weapons or martial arts expert at all, but I feel like if it wants to keep moving let it and then just control where it goes
The weight of this Nine Ring Dao sword varies from 3 kg to 10 kg. Usually, it's aroud 7 kg. It really depends on the person who wields it. And the purpose of this weapon is for heavily armored infantry to cut off horse legs. The nine rings are used to keep the wounds open, so that the sword could be pulled out in case of air pressure.
"Es war einmal ein Bumerang/ War ein kleines Stück zu lang./ Bumerang flog ein Stück,/ kam nicht mehr zurück./ Publikum noch stunden lang/ wartete auf Bumerang./" ~Joachim Ringelnatz loose translatification (please keep in mind I can't really rhyme) "Once there was a boomerang/ was a tiny bit t'lang./ Boomerang flew a tack,/ never to come back./ Audience for hours lang/ waited for that boomerang."
Agreed some are just absolutely especially beautiful. Hopefully a bunch of blade production companies out there can go historically accurate in a lot of places. I hope we get to see more than just a traditional Europe and Japan that gets most of the focus from makers, sellers, purchasers and reviewers these days.
Not true, the zhanmadao has a longer blade that extends further down the handle and reassembles a two-handed sword. The weapon in this video is called a guandao or yanyuedao or pudao
@@loadingnewads It's definitely a horse cutting Dao 斬馬刀 it purposely is against the cavalry charges, working with the infantry using the battle Axe along with the section of the long lance at the front line, also have the archers behind the lines ! 😮😅
In ancient times, the rings on swords were relatively heavy. When the weapon was held upright, the rings would naturally fall, causing the center of gravity of the blade to shift downward, resulting in better control. While swinging the sword, these rings, due to centrifugal force, would raise the center of gravity, generating stronger chopping power. Additionally, when the sword struck an object, the rings would collide with the blade, creating a secondary impact and causing additional damage. Furthermore, when the sword cut into an enemy's body, the rings would help the blade withdraw more quickly without getting stuck. Because the rings were quite heavy, ancient warriors generally started practicing with a single ring. The maximum number of rings was nine, which provided the greatest enhancement but also posed the highest demands on the warrior, and served as a display of the warrior's confidence.
@@juanquntos7123 Weapons are supposed to be mastered. and that weapon is not for an ordinary infantry. you can easily spot that it is used by cavalry judging by the length of its handle.
@@dretchlord873 you must have never fought or done any military training in your life. Training years in boxing or shooting a longbow is difficult and worth it. This is just not pragmatic. More efficient to train a better weapon if you're actually going to war
Hey Shad and Co. this Dao (刀) appears to be a combination of several historical Chinese blades. 1. Podao(朴刀), the general medium sized glaives from the mid-late Qing dynasty came in a variety of shapes and sizes but generally were around 50:50 blade to hilt ratio and not much larger than man height. These often were a little more ‘plain’ in appearance, but frequently had the ring on the pommel. Similar size historical examples (maybe 180cm) might be 3kg in weight total. 2. Guandao (關刀) or sabre of General Guan Yu seen as far back as the Song dynasty, and also called the yǎnyuèdāo (偃月刀). While your example does not have the characteristic back-hook of the guandao, it does have a nice blade collar (tūnkǒu (吞口)) along with the heavier weight which was typically associated with the guandao. While there were relatively nimble fighting examples according to Cheng Zi Yi (程子頤) the weapon was the general's weapon, primarily suitable for use on horseback and unsuited for the foot soldier. It required great strength and a fast horse to use effectively. There is a sub-type which has lead to the over-built polearms that you see today… 3. Wǔkēdāo (武科刀) or "Military Exam Blade", created during the Qing. These were overly large versions of Guan Dao used for strength training and testing. In order to pass certain military entrance exams, candidates had to perform forms with a wukedao, which could way up to 72kg. As a result of some of these surviving examples, modern blade makers are under the misconceptions that ALL polearm dao are overly heavy. 4. Jiu huan dao (九环刀) or 9 ring dao. These usually are seen on late Qing (19th century) single handed swords. They are basically never on military swords, and instead on martial arts weapons, designed to be very gaudy and help attract and audience or followers when putting on demonstrations in city centers. Polearms that have pierced blades with either one or two rings are known as far back as at least the 10th century, but not to the degree shown in this modern reproduction.
Someone else said up to 40kg and you're saying 72kg??? Have you ever lifted something that heavy? It would be utterly impossible for any human being in history to swing a blade that weighed 72kg. That's literally an entire person. I don't doubt that these blades existed but no one was doing forms with them... That's like claiming 3 meter ceremonial bearing swords were used in combat just because surviving examples exist. And guess what, THOSE swords only weigh around 5-7kg which is still far too heavy for actual use just like the blade shown in the video.
I hope that 72kg is a typo. I think 7.2kg would be more appropriate, as it's still very heavy but manageable. Wielding something as heavy as a human for some military entrance exam seems rather unlikely...
@@thunderryu0494 It is not a typo. As OP stated, those heavy dao were not intended to be weapons but was a form of weight lifting or strength feat. In the link below you can see a guy swinging around a 50kg guandao to get an idea of what this entails. th-cam.com/video/e2IL4jmjE90/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gMQQh0bU1FmhGRvi
Yeah, that 72kg weight comment has to be misinformation. There’s no way someone is swinging a weapon around that weighed 150+ lbs….even for a test of strength in a military sense. That’s not happening, chief.
@@Lucef Their are humans who can throw a 170kg bar into the air when the perform a snatch in Olympic style lifting. Lifting up a 75kg bar and moving it around is entirely possible as a feat of strength. No, it does not behave like a weapon but that was not the point. It was mean to be a test of strength and was tested along with pulling a heavy bow or performing a deadlift with a heavy stone.
The Kwan Dao, or horse-cutter, is a heavy polearm. Usually, they are so heavy that one has to move with the momentum of the weapon, do not fight the weapon and its mass. Sifu Hill - Hung Gar
embrace the power of the battlefield blender But yeah, this model was mostly likely meant to train ALL dem muscles while doing all the training exercises but actual combat with it, so when you get something that weights 1/3rd of it you'll be fighting like you're holding a bamboo stick. Also, almost every xianxia has the main character wielding some metric tons heavy slab of meal that's vaguely sword shaped so the idea of a "heavy sword" is deeply rooted in the east :D
That's what I thought. If you wielded the weapon like it wants to be, rather than how you want to wield it, it will be plenty effective. Just don't swing it like a sword, swing with it like a berserker.
One fact about the weight - Apparently in medieval China, super heavy Guan Dao (like 40kg at heavy at least) were used during army officer exams, to test potential candidates' martial prowess - and considering the myth of weapons' origin, it being heavier than normal sword seems fitting.
Nobody is going to be able to show any form with a 40kg+ weapon. That's a fairly big guy trying to swing half their body weight about. Even with steroids trying to aggressively move and control a mass that size is going to start detaching body parts from the skeleton.
@@RanOutOfChannelNames The weapons with increase weights part then were mainly used as training/exercise or to "show off" the user's strength. When used on the battlefield, everything goes back to normal weights, similar to everywhere else on the planet.
@@RanOutOfChannelNames There are apparently plenty of those things hanging around in museums, so whatever the truth may be, they were being made for some reason. And considering how weird the confucian inspired competence system worked in China, I would not put it past them to require an officer to wave a giant cleaver around with grace to get a promotion... Still, there is also plenty of more user-friendly weighted examples of chinese two-handed swords/glaives, and those things are super scary as well. Personally though? I am more partial to a two handed jian style than Guandao/Dadao/etc, but that's just my aesthetic preference.
This is called the Zhan Ma Dao, which was equipped in ancient China for heavy infantry to fight against light cavalry. There is a similar type called Mo Dao used to counter cavalry
At 17:14 Weight and edge alignment.... Well if you get the edge alignment correct, it appears like you'll cut right through them! If you don't get the edge alignment correct then you will bludgeon them to death!! Either way they won't be a problem again!!
The historical ones were much lighter and easier to wield. The rings were weighted to help with the center of gravity, create intimidating noise, to ward off bad spirits, and they also kept other bladed weapons from sliding down the back side towards the wielder if you ever locked up with them. Plus it also had a decorative and ascetic purpose.
I don’t know about the keeping other bladed weapons from sliding down bit. The rings barely project far enough to act as a catch against other weapons, but also, they move around, so anything with enough force will just pass through the rings with ease. Maybe the noise thing could be viable, but I really only see that as a flashy demonstration than actually being a feature that was serviceable in combat. Also, weighted? To help with balance????? How? If the rings are weighted, but they’re applied on the weapon, specifically the blade, then if anything it would just make it more top heavy and clumsy than actually working to balance it out. If that were the case, then the "weighted" rings should be on the hilt to offset the weight of a heavier blade.
@@SerAvaros my guess with the rings is that, if the weapon was used in a certain way, they would / could add extra force to a cut as the rings add their momentum from moving from the handle side towards the point side of the blade, literally pushing the blade a bit more after it is stopped. I don't know how much extra force, if any that would add. As for stopping a sliding weapon on the back... doubtful the rings will stop a slide BUT they may cause a deflection. As in rather than the opponents blade sliding all the way down to the hilt and hand it would hit a ring and bounce / deflect away from the hilt or hand entirely.
These are the explanations ChatGPT will bounce back, but if you look for sources, none of them really have documentation. The idea of warding off evil spirits has some cultural grounding, but nobody actually ever wrote anything (that I know of) that says "this is what we use this for."
@@Lurkily_Esh "as far as we have found" should be added to that tho. China has had a lot of pretty bad civil wars and writings tend to get burned during those times. Ceremonial, cultural, morale reasons however are usually a safe bet. Especially in China which also enjoyed long stretches of relative peace in between all the civil wars where ceremony and fashion could and did become the main design principle behind things that would rarely if ever be used outside parades and ceremony. It's also the reason why more of those particular "weapons" would survive when the more practical war weapon would not.
It's the Guan Dao. Person it was named after, Guan Yu, was supposedly superhumanly strong. In legend, Guan Yu used a 49 kg version of this with ease and agility. His accomplishment was so amazing that he was eventually revered to diety status and worshipped as the God of War.
Damn, is Guan Yu was superhumanly strong, and his weapon weighs that much, how strong was Lu Bu to be able to was and just his weapon weight and suoerhuman strength.
Guan Dao is much longer and heavier, and it's not a real field weapon that was used. Guan Yu was documented to be a spear user while on horse back, like everyone else.
chinese person here. For us lot, the Guandao resenmbles more of a glaive than this thing is, and we normaly se it as an interpretantion of the Podao（which is also a kind of double-edged blade that can be made to look like a Guandao, but normally just looking like what shad depicts here.) hope that adds some knowledge.
This is a good change from katanas. Katanas are fun, but this is a nice change. Also this sword reminds me of the Elvish swords used in the fellowship of the ring and the two towers.
i think its usually ment for counter heavy cavalry, normally used by small group of strong soldiers in heavy armor, they are better at chopping horse leg most of the time.(while myth says they cut thru horse neck and rider at the same time, which is very unlikely to succeed) and u DO NOT hold the sword's weight on ur hand. user generally drag them on floor and swing them upward or spin horizontally with the end of handle. let target or ground to stop the momentum. thats how u apply weight into advantage rather than disavantage
also, dont worry about the edge gonna be blunt. u can basicly think it as blunt weapon. they ant ment to be paper cutter its similar to chinese bone chopper(kitchen knife) buy a bone chopper kitchen knife and test them out. they serve the same design the thicker blade provide better support to the edge to chop thru bones.
Yeah think so, it use to stop cavalry house charging in, the person will lay low as soon the house come toward the person , he will move side low and cut the horse legs ......and the rings prevent it going into the abdomen and get stuck if the blade accidentally cut into the abdomen
I used to practice with a large Kukri sword, which is probably similar in width to that blade, and I found that 'stopping' the momentum was the wrong move, rather use your momentum to carry you into your next blow; it requires that you keep the blade in constant motion but it is a lot easier than starting and stopping.
Exactly. This type of weapon was designed to basically mow down as many enemy soldiers on the field as fast and effortlessly as possible (which might sound counter-intuitive, given the weight of the weapon, but actually, once you got it going at full speed by rotating it all around your body, it takes surprisingly little efforts to keep the momentum going, since the weapon's centrifugal force is doing all the work. All you gotta do is keep a supple enough "grip" (actually, you're not even supposed to have a tight grip on it, otherwise it will impede on the celerity and mobility of the weapon) to let it keep its flow, and its weight will basically do the job by itself. Once the opposing army is minced meat, you stop the weapon by vertically planting its shaft in the ground (not super practical, but always better than plant the blade in the ground). Shad and co. are doing a great job at being curious enough to try out weapons other than European, but they always come at it with the same set of moves. To each weapon its culture and its martial arts. If you wanna try the weapon, you also have to learn how its original wielders were doing it. It's a full package (which is why his repeated attempts at nunchuks were really frustrating, coz he kept using and analyzing them from a western scientific perspective, without taking in account the cultural aspect, history, and the philosophy of the weapon, which was never a weapon of war, designed to mow down armored soldiers, but more like an everyday self defense weapons for farmers who have not much at their disposal, so joining 2 sticks with a rope was all they could afford to do, with sometimes some additional fine-tuning with blades or mini scythes at the end of it, for more lethality. The nunchuks were basically the first example of DIY weapons of the poor that became an actual discipline through okinawan karate practitioners or later, shaolin monks, who made it an official martial art weapon).
My main thought on the rings is that when performing the forms, they could have created a specific sound. So when the blade creates a clear ring on every strike and it remains silent otherwise, you're doing it correctly. An easier way to prep and grade soldier performances, or give decorative performances.
He's starting to relax a bit, too. I hate being on camera (which I have to do sometimes for my job), and I never feel completely comfortable doing it. I think he's starting to look more natural.
This is a glaive/glave with shortened shaft. Think of it as a Guandao with shorter shaft, or a Chinese messer with shorter heavier blade and longer shaft. One of the most famous variant of Chinese glaive weapon would be Guandao (used by Guan Yu according to the novel). Huang Zhong also used a glaive but with tip curled like an elephant's nose.
fun fact ring Dao mostly use for execution so it being heavy is correct it being functional because people like to interrupt puplic execution so this blade can be use for the executioners to defend themself with it not meant as a battlefeild weapon
Let’s get the terminology right: In Chinese martial arts Dao （刀） can be translated as Sabre or Knife, they are single edged. Depending on size and usage， 单刀 Dan Dao （Single Sabre）， 青龙偃月刀 Qing Long Yan Yue Dao （Azure Dragon Crescent Sabre， this is more a polearm), 屠龙刀 Tu Long Dao (Dragon Slaying Sabre). While 菜刀 Cai Dao （vegetable/cooking knife), 小刀 Xiao Dao （small knife/sabre）. The word Blade /edge is Ren (刃）, but this is not listed in the eighteen types of weapon disciplines. It mainly refers to weapons with cutting edges. As someone mentioned, 剑 Jian (Sword) is for double edged, non polearm weapons. And Katana is not considered as a sword in Chinese terminology, it is considered as a Sabre 刀 （Dao).
These type of weapons may usually been used as ceremonial weapons, or for martial arts performance,those metal rings are perfect for making sounds while marching or performing. quite different from what i saw in museums, real ancient war weapon were both simple and slim,even those two-handed weapons are"smaller"than i expected.
I looked up the purpose of the nine rings. The first is to look good and deterrent, the second is for the center of gravity, because when you swing it forward, the nine rings will also move forward, increasing the kinetic energy of the swing; the third is to prevent it from cutting too deep, because if it cuts too deep into the human body, it is easy to get stuck in the bones and it is difficult to pull out, so these rings are used to limit the depth of the cut.
This reminds me of the character Wan Fun from Samurai Shodown that was wielding a similar sword, except with a smaller handle. And when he was hitting with it, he was basically throwing it towards the opponent then grabbing the hilt to not lose it. I can imagine this is how you should use a sword that heavy.
Loved the video, as always! 😊🎉 As a new practitioner of Traditional Chinese-Swordsmanship (not the kind that’s slow kata, but designed to be fast and involve sparring), this sword reminds me heavily of the ZhanMaDao (horse-chopper)-they were long-handled cleavers, oftentimes, which were used during a time when mounted warfare was common in China. ZhanMaDao were oriented around stopping cavalry and/or dismounting horsemen, but were not as optimized to face infantry, due to their weight and heft, if I recall correctly (not a dueling weapon, but optimized for stopping a dedicated-charge). I’m a new guy to the art, so definitely double-check me. Thanks for this awesome video, and Long Live The Shadlands! 🥳
My 7 foot tall Red Panda man in my friends D&D campaign uses one of these (mechanically a Glaive) and I love it. The character is heavily inspired by Guan Yu the Saint of War, but if he was a Red Panda pirate lmao.
If you don't wield it like a katana or a sword, maybe you'll feel much better. A very similar weapon named "Tang Dao" are being used in ancient military to stop the calvary (target horse leg) or to face the heavy armored infantry (?). You have only 1 chance to wield it, swing the blade, then leave the rest to the guy behind you whose usually carrying normal weaponry.
The nine-ring broadsword's rings are said to prevent the blade from cutting too deeply into a limb, such as getting stuck in bones and being difficult to remove. The rings on the back of the sword limit this effect. The nine-ring broadsword was generally used for martial arts demonstrations, or possibly as a training tool for soldiers to build strength during drills, rather than in actual combat. Ancient Chinese military tactics placed a significant emphasis on formation coordination. The main components were crossbowmen, with melee infantry using swords and shields, backed by spearsmen or halberdiers. Additionally, unlike in many other countries, ancient China often measured a general's martial prowess by their archery skills, such as how many pounds they could pull on a bow, rather than by their swordsmanship. Therefore, the technological advancement of melee weapons did not progress as rapidly as that of ranged weapons.
The guandao is my favorite weapon! What do you think about Guan Yu's guandao "Green Dragon Crescent Blade" which weighed 82 Chinese jin (estimated either at 18.26 kg (40.3 lb) or 48.38 kg (106.7 lb)
YES!! Guan Yu's Guandao and Zhang Liao's Yanyuedao !! two awesome crescent blades !!! I honestly don't know the differences of the 2. but it's what my older cousin taught me 20 yrs ago lol
Personally I think that it was just a legend told about him and the time period, not an actual weapon that he actually used - if it even actually existed. A 40 lb weapon is absurd, even people who are in peak physical condition and regularly lift weights and do body training would struggle immensely to swing that around as an actual weapon.
@@Hirome_Satou .......i'm 5'10" 175lbs and 40 yrs old. I twirl a 36lb 6' yoga bar and train shao lin staff with it. You are just out of shape, and i'm not even close to Arnold or Sly... get on the floor and do some push ups 🙏❤
Fun fact, they still used it during the Japanese invasion of China where a Chinese Nationalists armed with a medieval weapons because they were limited on firing arms.
I heard of stories by Chinese ppl (claimed to be true, but I don’t think we can find a reliable source, those stories are 80 year old) Someone used a more gross version of this thing to kill 5-6 Japanese soldiers before being shot. A group of soldiers equipped with this once entered melee combat with the Japanese soldiers and won against them with this kind of large blades and a high K/D ratio
My guess: It is made heavy on purpose. It is like a boxer holding dumbbells doing their shadow boxing for enhancing their endurance and strength. It is made heavy for the noble warrior family practice Tao-Lu(equals Kata in Japanese martial arts) in their garden, sometimes cutting something like wood or bamboo with it, and that is also good for practice, so the edge is still made sharp. I checked that the nine rings seems like for generating the sound effect when the users practice their Tao-Lu with this sword, this is sure.
i heard that the chinese use this weapon in WW2 (most likely without the rings though). if you want to use it, i think you need spinning movements, just follow the weight. If you want to stop it use the ground instead your muscle. Most likely need a lighter version still. the rings ... maybe if you want to hit someone with the dull side of the blade, the rings will hurt more lol
...........it's actually very practical: i've been training with a 36lb yoga bar for 1 year now. After another year i will be able to start training on the kuan / guan dao......... which is what you're holding but on a 6' pole with a spear tip on the bottom end............. 🙏❤
That's the thing. It works for training because the purpose is to push yourself. In combat or even using it as a tool, you don't want to get tired in the first 5 minutes. Even if you can keep going, the power loss will be too high to make it practical in any real situation.
@@bbotelhoHI Well these weapons are designed for anti-cav purposes, but it seems like this one was made for flair or executions, since it's heavier than the norm for them.
@@bbotelhoHI ...like The Black Death says below: the functionality is against cavalry. It's also "practical" against the majority of infantry. Remember irregardless of Asians or Europeans, the majority of any infantry consists of peasant conscripts. The only 300-esque fighters were the Spartans and "Tartars" = Mongolian horde under Genghis Khan... After cleaving off a few arms and legs, formations break and people run....
10:04 The rings are suppose to 'work' with the momentum. The theory is, when the blade is held vertically the rings will fall downwards torwards the hilt helping the user control the sword, and when swung the ring will then transfer to weight to the blade adding to momentum of the cut. Furthermore, the rings are also designed to act as guards for the blade so that it doesn't cut too deep and get stuck in the flesh when chopping an enemy (meaning its not meant for very 'finess' sword combat) it more of a you swing (only from top to down), you hit, then you kick/shove/punch your enemy away from you to dislodge sword then repeat, kind of weapon.
Also, the design of the blade is kinda off, the sword itself is suppose to be lighter weight (size is right though) whereas traditionally the rings would be much larger and heavier than what they are on this sword.
the weapon is used for horse riding charging. the rider will charge n hold the saber, it also heavy to swing, like a halberd to knock away objective or cut through helmet. if i rmb the ring is to help the rider to pick up the saber while riding if the weapon is dropped or to plug out the saber if stuck, imagine if stuck u can hold any ring, place ur feet n pull out the saber. This weapon is used during the Tang and Song dynasty, back then chain and metal plate armor are very popular so heavy weapons that can knock back, cause impact and smash through armor are widely used. a saber like this can also be used as a thin shield.
There's actually a tradition of training with overweight pole arms in a lot of Chinese martial Arts. It's a lot like those oversized Temple swords in Japan except people actually trained with them as a show of strength.
From weight and stamina usage - looks like a cool eccentric replacement for a dumbbells. You have here cardio+stretches and a light/medium physical exercise (depending on a speed and intensity)
Use your torso as fulcrum and slightly pull the rear arm , part of the shaft never leaves your body , forearm is for stabilization, legs to orient the whole pelvis and brings the torso to work the blade.
The heavy weight of the weapon is for the purpose of physical conditioning whereas the actual ones used for combat weighed less, also this weapon was used from horse back and was also used to target and slice another horses legs hence it's nickname of the Horse Chopper/Horse Cutter. (Source: I am a Kung fu instructor and I have trained with this weapon)
I think we need an asterisk on this weapon, saying "It's too heavy for a normal person, but a body builder could probably use it with ease." Like, if it were built like this, it could only be a weapon for specialized warriors.
I don’t know if it’s the case with this dao, but normally the rings are made of iron and used to increase the weight. As for why that’s the case…I dunno, I’m not super familiar with Chinese weapons.
From a pure strength perspective I can see how that could work. However from a practicality standpoint training with the weapon that behaves differently than it would in battle does not seem like a good idea to me. It lead to overswinging the lighter weapon, leading to loss of balance hyperextension of an arm and so on. Seems to me the turtle hermit method would be more reliable for just gaining pure strength. (Only partial sarcasm there)
The rings are a counter measure , it prevents enemy weapon from sliding towards its user too smoothly , being loosely connected to the blade, any contact over that section isn't going to be solid enough to affect handling, thus fluidity of motion can be maintained. Last but not least ,cutting edge would be damaged when swiping through the rings , while the latter are replaceable.
In East Asian term any single blade weapon mainly used for cutting regardless long or short is called Dao and any double edged sword is called Jian. Even Japanese sword written in Kanji is 太刀 which means large “dao”.
Love to see the racism towards anything Asian by you westerners When slashing with force, the rings will move forward with inertia, and the center of gravity of the sword will shift toward the direction of the cutter head, thus increasing the slashing and lethality If you just did general research instead of making uneducated opinions on foreign weapons you'd be able figure such things out. Plus props to you for complaining about using a weapon without using the proper forms associated with those weapons
Weapons which are heavy either design to break the target with a precise chop or to allowed the users to ride the momentum and won't stop until the battle is ended. So there will be specific dance for this type of weapons which designed to go on loop. Also the ancient armors were generally wood rather than metal, so the heavy blade won't stuck when chopped the enemies.
A weapon like this isn't meant to be used in such a manner, it's similar to heavy Chinese weapons used in the past, it's actually a weapon that's meant to be used after building up momentum and that momentum is meant to be redirected rather than stopped the martial movement and technique is often as much a part of how to properly utilize a weapon as the blade or handle.
This Dao (砍馬刀) is for cutting the horse leg. When the horseman is down on ground, use the tip to kill him. The rings are for making sound to scare the enemy at war (usually before battle)
Actually... it is called a Guan Dao. In Chinese Dao 刀 means knife, or single edge blade. A dao can be anything from a knife (xiao dao 小刀 small blade), to a single edge sword (miao dao 苗刀 cutlass/dusack/falchion), to this type of polearm. Guan 关 means to shut or close. The story goes this weapon was used for soldiers who blocked cavalry and was used to chop down horses. Historically this was called a crescent moon sword "yanyuedao" 偃月刀. As far as the rings, they were added to various weapons during the resurgence of martial arts competitions during the late 70's and 80's. Typically the pole was longer, about 4 or 5 feet or up to nipple. And the blade was shorter, about 45 to 50 centimeters. It still was a heavy weapon, no more than about 5kg.
This is not Mo Dao (陌刀) from Tang Dynasty Mo Dao was describe as 刀棒 or Blade Staff due to its size, which was around on average 10 Tang Dynasty Chi in length, which is slightly more than modern 10 feet, and Mo Dao weighs an average 50 Tang Dynasty small Jin, or around modern 24 - 25 pounds. And Mo Dao was describe to be half staff/half blade, with "DOUBLE EDGE", not single edge like this, since Mo Dao can be used like shorter "Pike Wall" as well in order to stop charging cataphracts. Some Mo Dao were even longer and heavier than normal average Mo Dao. The only similarity between these and Mo Dao are, both are classified as Zhan Ma Dao type weapons which were used against Horse Archers and Heavy Cataphracts. The closest to Mo Dao i think was the early Northern Song Dynasty Pi Zhen Dao (劈阵刀) or Formation Destroyer Blade which went out of used a while later and was replaced by much smaller 7 Song Dynasty Chi Zhan Ma Dao which was an equivalent of roughly 7'4" to 7'6" inches modern feet. I suspect Pi Zhen Dao might be the same thing as Mo Dao or maybe very closely resemblance each other. Since the Song War Minister describe Pi Zhen Dao as unusable by normal soldier in case of emergency and required a great deal of training, but Zhan Ma Dao can be used easily in term of emergency with very minimal training only, hence Pi Zhen Dao / Mo Dao went extinct from history.
Take a look at most Guandao forms - the amount of "spinning" in the interlude is there for good reason - momentum building before, and divesting remaining inertia after the follow-through.
A weapon like this isn't meant to be used in such a manner, it's similar to heavy Chinese weapons used in the past, it's actually a weapon that's meant to be used after building up momentum and that momentum is meant to be redirected rather than stopped the martial movement and technique is often as much a part of how to properly utilize a weapon as the blade or handle. The rings serve as a counterweight to increase inertia as well as to trap thinner faster swords like the Jian and sometimes we're used to snap it with a sudden turn.
This large single-edged sword was used by the Song Dynasty in ancient China after it lost the horse-breeding land in the northern territory. It was a helpless move to use heavy-armored infantry to fight against the cavalry of the northern nomadic peoples. Later, warriors with particularly strong strength would also use it.
The rings of the Nine-Ring Sword are designed to enhance its chopping effect. When the sword is held upright, the metal rings hang downwards, causing the center of gravity to shift towards the handle, making the sword easier to control. During chopping, the metal rings are flung forward by inertia, shifting the center of gravity towards the blade tip, thereby increasing the chopping force.
the most realistic and similiar weapon used in history is at BC 622, battle of Talas, a battle between Arabian and Tang dynasty. it called "MO DAO", a good anti-cavalry weapon. since to against horse, it is longer and two edge, just like Roman Gladius sword added to a long stick
Also for heavy weapons we don't really "stop" the weapon per say. We use the weapon weight/momentum and redirect the force to continually slash the enemy. The only stop is for the thrust.
This Dao is only used by land units with purpose to chop off horse leg with one swing. There is a much longer version for much wider range, like one swing from left to right or 360 degree and there is a combat technique to flow with the weights of the Dao, the mass force with the swing can stun your opponent then the next stroke might cut you in half. (The rings are for locking opponent's spear)
The rings supposedly help add to the inertia when you swing. Since it make a lot of noise, by using it, you are showing everyone that you are righteous. "you never stab anyone in the back" (it's neither silence nor stabbing weapon)
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in battle the rings prevent the enemy blade from sliding down the back of the blade into your hand. also they allow the user to more quickly remove a stuck blade. I suspect they provide indication of proper technique when training but most of the heavy Chinese weapons will let you know your technique was bad with sore shoulders.
The purpose of the rings are to add weight to your swings. ie, when you slash downwards, the rings flip, adding more weight to the tip, thus adding more power. They're also removable to lessen the weight.
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You should try a more historically accurate one. The rings should be bigger and 2-3 times as heavy, and the blade half the weight or less. This is what allows significant weight/center of gravity distribution because the rings are a bigger ratio of the total weight and have much larger play of movement. good video!
I did hung gar and choi li fut for a number of years and trained with a similar style of 9 ring broadsword, although the grip was only about 1/3 of the length on mine, but it still accomodated 2 hands. The shorter grip makes more sense to me as a weapon, because the longer grip seems to get in the way and a lot of the forms I learned mostly only require one hand. There are a couple of things I noticed while training with it. The rings shift the centre of mass of the blade (when the sword is thrusted properly with power coming from the hips and shoulder) adding force to the tip and leading cutting edge. This is probably an intentional design. The rings also make a very different sound when the sword is used with proper power and speed. The sharp clack they make is handy as an audible training tool. Also, I have occasionally heard it referred to it in kung-fu circles as "The Horse Cleaver™" and have heard that was an anti-cavalry side-arm weapon, in which case it's weight and momentum would make sense. I have no idea about the veracity of this, however. What I am sure of though is that the blade (at least on the weapons I trained with) is a thicc beast.
sharp plus heavy weight. Whoever try to block a downswing will feel quite a shock from their arm sockets. This weapon is usually for mounted troops (longer handle). Those who try to wield this on foot requires even more strength and dangerous when wielded correctly.
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I honestly dont think these would be a common weapon. the chinese would have used halberds, poleaxes, flails, spears maces etc. the 2 handed sword they would have carried would be a changdao similar to a nodachi with more distal taper and a longer handle for counterweight. would be a sidearm like a Longsword and can probably be very effective in combat against lightly armored troops and was probably used as an anti-cavalry sword. awesome underated sword IMO. I think i read somewhere that they would have been used to defend pikemen in pike and shot style formations too. the same blade you have there would have been mounted on a much longer pole and used as a glaive.
you need to be looking at LK chen for historically accurate Chinese weapons
Maybe an execution weapon...hence the weight and blade thickness. Chopping through necks.
I can just imagine you coming up to the cashier in Australian Walmart with dozens of pool noodles.
"Busy shooting schedule this week?"
😂pp@@efafe4972
“Do you want a Sword, a Spear or a Halberd?”
“Yes”.
The Chinese nagamaki is weird
Please make me Knife... but not a knife. 😂😂😂
You forgot axe
@@InfernosReaper ive thought same its literally chinese nagamaki
No it’s defo a Glaive. A Halberd is a long axe with a spear tip
Technically, Shad, “dao” means knife, though in Chinese anything single edged is a “dao” while anything double edged is a “jian”.
That's only true if you talk about weapon. Dao in Chinese can apply anything that perform some sort of cut, particularly in tools. Eg. Water jet cutter, in Chinese can be called "water knife". Or laser cutter is called "laser knife".
Even for edged tools, there are multi edged tools named knife too (eg. three edged carving knife).
And the single (dao) vs double (Jian) edge naming for weapon only applies to Chinese sword/weapon. In specific usage, you use "jian" to refer to all swords. Eg. I collect western jian. Here the word "jian" just means swords which includes all type of Western swords, single or double edged.
@@GuitarsRockForever You're right about "dao" being a descriptor of any tool that "cuts, cleaves, slices, chops, and stabs" (stab is included in the definition I found), but "jian" in most definitions includes being "double-edged", as such, "dao" would still be the appropriate character to use for single bladed weapons. In fact, the most common name for calling the weapon showcased, would be "da dao", translated literally as "big knife", as the singular "dao" typically just translates to "knife".
As for multi-edged "dao"s, it's due to "dao" being a more general term than "jian", as "jian" refers specifically to weaponry. Thus, for a tool that's not a weapon, the word would typically use "dao" along with descriptors such as "three-edged", or "three-angled". (I couldn't find what the "three-bladed knife" you mentioned was (in chinese), however the results for "three-angled knife" came to be more similar.)
"Blade" is probably a better term, or "edge"
@@stalcher1699
You speak Chinese? Sorry I don't know exact English translation, but I was referring to "三棱刮刀" which was an "common weapon" used by certain groups of people in the past (before my time). It is a tool, but makes a nasty weapon. It has three edges.
The name of my son will be Dao Jian
Chinese term is pudao. Rings were added to them in the 19th and early 20th century for wushu demo purposes (noise mostly) The original pieces you can see in various museums, most notably the royal Armouries in Leeds UK that has a number of them, they are not heavy, probably in the 3.5 to 4 lb range but balanced near the guard.
朴刀不应该更细一点吗？
@@七光酱 yep
@@七光酱 correct
Apparently, the rings are also so if you stab/slash into something, it won't get stuck because it won't get too deep.
The more... sword version (shorter), is also to basically say "Hey, i'm not going to stab you in the back, so the rings are so you can hear me" according to a wushu site.
@@blackthrone6976 that is 20th century creation and not historical though.
Around 11:20, yes, your opinion is correct. The historical ones were WAY lighter. The back of the blade was no more than 2 or 3 mil and very flexible. Actually, the rings were thick and worked as extra mass to the blade. If the wielder is strong, all 9 rings are attached. If the wielder feels the blade is too heavy to maneuver, just remove some of the rings. The rings also work as a limit device to stop the blade from cutting into the flesh too far so that it will not get stuck in bone and flesh.
No way the real ones could be that heavy, in 1v1 any moderately competent adversary just keeps you in play till you're knackered, in battle you batter down the first guy and then his buddies kill you.
@LuisNunes-ps4sl it was meant for horses not people, lot more meat too so you dont want that biah ass blade stuck in a horses neck
@@LuisNunes-ps4sl Most weapons weren't made for 1v1, unless they were for hunting.
I used to study northern Chinese martial arts and I remember these things. The nine ring dow or as we often called them the horse cutting sword because apparently they were primarily used against cavalry by attacking the horse rather than the rider.
Yeah from everything I know that was mainly its purpose. As well as to break heavier formations.
I always thought they were lighter. I wonder if that is actually a historic replica based on battle weapons.
@@dianapennepacker6854 Battle version would be much lighter around half of this replica's weight or even less. This is probably modeled after a training weapon. It has been recorded that Ming and Qing generals would use such weapons for strength training.
@@weifan9533 Yeah definitely. It would not surprise me if someone used this just for horses. A ceremonial weapon. Or as you said for a strength training weapon sounds a lot better with this, than the 100 pound ones.
I've had people tell me that heroes would carry 100 pound Guandaos, and one even carried a 150 KILO GRAM trident.
Just casually used in battle by heroic champions. That you know - also held off or slayed 100 enemy warriors or some other ridiculous BS as well.
Basically Demi Gods of war.
To be fair this was twenty years ago or longer where you had "historians" saying European swords weighed ten to twenty pounds, and regular people believed the katana was a magical armor cutting blade.
A lot has changed in my life, but I remember being like give me a break. That did not happen. Stop believing in myths, hah.
Yet for ceremonial and training purposes? Some made to show off or test feats of strength? Sure.
If this is an anti-horse weapon, maybe that explains the rings? They aren't for making noise to distract/unsettle riders, but rather the animals?
That was what I thought too. It was used on horseback. The speed of the horse and angle of the blade would be the cutting force
Yeah... I'm _reasonably_ certain that this Nine Ring Dao was intended for demonstrations and for training. The idea would be that if you can handle the heaviest iterations of this weapon while maintaining effective technique, the _properly_ weighted battlefield versions would be like featherweights in comparison.
yes that is the method of weapon training in asia
@@HiragamaIkunai Romans did the same, not sure if optimal as you train for an much heavier weapon than you use.
Even in unarmed martial arts we sometimes train holding small dumbells in our hands. You feel like the Flash when you drop them
@@magnemoe1 I'd say it was extremely effective
@@magnemoe1 considering it was done for thousands of years across many different cultures, as is literally still used today in military training, I would say it's pretty optimal.
It’s supposed to be an anti Calvary weapon and yes the historical ones were lighter than the one shown here
The anti-cavalry weapon is a ZhanMaDao. More similar in shape to a nagamaki.
So you too are dyslexic when it comes to cavalry and Calvary. Or was that autocorrect?
I think you're throwing too much shade on a cavalry typo. If yuo can still raed tihs setnence then shuold it mettar?
@@bungeetoons😂🤣😆 Classic
@@OurAwesomeUniverse I do that too! 😊😂
You’re absolutely right - it’s not technically a sword. We’ve updated our listing to reflect that it’s actually an interpretation of the Podao/Pudao. Thanks for keeping us on our toes and for this entertaining content as we had a good laugh.
Thanks heaps guys, it was a very fun weapon to review!
Really cool beast of a weapon you made here!
You guys misspelled it. It's PoDao, not PuDao. You got the rings all wrong. Also you made it too heavy to be used as a real weapon. You should at least fix the rings so it would look good as a show piece. Just a friendly piece of input.
@@dougdu I don't think it's MEANT to be weighted like a real weapon. A lot of people here are saying that this overweight PuDao is meant for show and demonstration of strength, rather than as a practical weapon.
yes pudao
The key was to keep the heavy swords in fluid motion using your entire body even leading with your body into an attack. The idea is to weild it on foot as if you where riding a horse, no jirky swings no stops and starts, the weapon never stops moving. Slowing the sword down is where you get the most fatigued. Let the sword go where it wants to go, follow it don't bully it. While standing neutral with the weapon rest it against your body, also use you shoulders and mid section to put the weopon in motion and not just your arms.
Think of this thing as a shotgun, once in motion it's too heavy to block or perry, doing ample damage to anything it hits.
嗯.... 很接近
Thats a BIG IF you can hit someone..
dont reach too much! Lol
@@BedBugss3x these are for a battle field not a duel , also cute little trick it can do you prop it at an anlge put your weight into the end of the handle and place yourself infront of a charging horse, it will kill you sure but the horse wont trample and kill 5 men.
@@BedBugss3x i think if ten man standing in a row attack at the same time. the chance of it hit incoming enemy is almost 100%
That’s what I was thinking, now I’m no means a weapons or martial arts expert at all, but I feel like if it wants to keep moving let it and then just control where it goes
The weight of this Nine Ring Dao sword varies from 3 kg to 10 kg. Usually, it's aroud 7 kg. It really depends on the person who wields it. And the purpose of this weapon is for heavily armored infantry to cut off horse legs. The nine rings are used to keep the wounds open, so that the sword could be pulled out in case of air pressure.
😢😢 RIP to the horses,camels and donkeys
I heard a story about a man who went insane.
He bought a new boomerang and kept trying to throw the old one away.
Ha!
I threw a boomerang once as a kid and it never came back.
I've been living in fear ever since.
Friend made an boomerang then we was teen, it flew almost straight and very far into an forest, he newer found it.
Must have been insane to throw one away.
"Es war einmal ein Bumerang/
War ein kleines Stück zu lang./
Bumerang flog ein Stück,/
kam nicht mehr zurück./
Publikum noch stunden lang/
wartete auf Bumerang./"
~Joachim Ringelnatz
loose translatification (please keep in mind I can't really rhyme)
"Once there was a boomerang/
was a tiny bit t'lang./
Boomerang flew a tack,/
never to come back./
Audience for hours lang/
waited for that boomerang."
We need more chinese weapons on the channel.
Agreed some are just absolutely especially beautiful.
Hopefully a bunch of blade production companies out there can go historically accurate in a lot of places. I hope we get to see more than just a traditional Europe and Japan that gets most of the focus from makers, sellers, purchasers and reviewers these days.
Agreed
And we should receive another one soon, given the other Dāo shown.
oh tang dao please
Do cultivation sword. 😂 That looks awesome.
The weapon weight is fine, Tyranth just hasn’t put enough skill points into strength.
And yet he did the best
wasn't Guan Yu's Polearm supposed to be over one hundred pounds?
That’s a risk in being a dex build.
Just become a Oni so you can one hand this.
Easy.
@@davidcantrell2568 Unless you're a young strong genius like Bruce Lee was I guess haha
In Chinese, this type of sword is known as "斬馬刀," which directly translates to "the sword for cutting horses."
Not true, the zhanmadao has a longer blade that extends further down the handle and reassembles a two-handed sword. The weapon in this video is called a guandao or yanyuedao or pudao
Guandao has a longer handle
not really based on my knowledge, the “Horse cutting swords” have a longer blade that extends its range when cutting the horses’ legs.
@@loadingnewads It's definitely a horse cutting Dao 斬馬刀 it purposely is against the cavalry charges, working with the infantry using the battle Axe along with the section of the long lance at the front line, also have the archers behind the lines ! 😮😅
@@ktiger1766 but as a horse cutting dao it seems to be shorter than average and still weighs too much.
In ancient times, the rings on swords were relatively heavy. When the weapon was held upright, the rings would naturally fall, causing the center of gravity of the blade to shift downward, resulting in better control. While swinging the sword, these rings, due to centrifugal force, would raise the center of gravity, generating stronger chopping power. Additionally, when the sword struck an object, the rings would collide with the blade, creating a secondary impact and causing additional damage. Furthermore, when the sword cut into an enemy's body, the rings would help the blade withdraw more quickly without getting stuck. Because the rings were quite heavy, ancient warriors generally started practicing with a single ring. The maximum number of rings was nine, which provided the greatest enhancement but also posed the highest demands on the warrior, and served as a display of the warrior's confidence.
That sounds like complete BS. Surely nobody would buy into this lol
@@juanquntos7123 Weapons are supposed to be mastered. and that weapon is not for an ordinary infantry. you can easily spot that it is used by cavalry judging by the length of its handle.
@@juanquntos7123 Difficult is not BS. That's just a niche taste and a skill issue.
@@dretchlord873 you must have never fought or done any military training in your life. Training years in boxing or shooting a longbow is difficult and worth it. This is just not pragmatic. More efficient to train a better weapon if you're actually going to war
@@juanquntos7123why don’t you reply to previous comments that actually give an explanation?
Hey Shad and Co. this Dao (刀) appears to be a combination of several historical Chinese blades.
1. Podao(朴刀), the general medium sized glaives from the mid-late Qing dynasty came in a variety of shapes and sizes but generally were around 50:50 blade to hilt ratio and not much larger than man height. These often were a little more ‘plain’ in appearance, but frequently had the ring on the pommel. Similar size historical examples (maybe 180cm) might be 3kg in weight total.
2. Guandao (關刀) or sabre of General Guan Yu seen as far back as the Song dynasty, and also called the yǎnyuèdāo (偃月刀). While your example does not have the characteristic back-hook of the guandao, it does have a nice blade collar (tūnkǒu (吞口)) along with the heavier weight which was typically associated with the guandao. While there were relatively nimble fighting examples according to Cheng Zi Yi (程子頤) the weapon was the general's weapon, primarily suitable for use on horseback and unsuited for the foot soldier. It required great strength and a fast horse to use effectively. There is a sub-type which has lead to the over-built polearms that you see today…
3. Wǔkēdāo (武科刀) or "Military Exam Blade", created during the Qing. These were overly large versions of Guan Dao used for strength training and testing. In order to pass certain military entrance exams, candidates had to perform forms with a wukedao, which could way up to 72kg. As a result of some of these surviving examples, modern blade makers are under the misconceptions that ALL polearm dao are overly heavy.
4. Jiu huan dao (九环刀) or 9 ring dao. These usually are seen on late Qing (19th century) single handed swords. They are basically never on military swords, and instead on martial arts weapons, designed to be very gaudy and help attract and audience or followers when putting on demonstrations in city centers. Polearms that have pierced blades with either one or two rings are known as far back as at least the 10th century, but not to the degree shown in this modern reproduction.
Someone else said up to 40kg and you're saying 72kg??? Have you ever lifted something that heavy? It would be utterly impossible for any human being in history to swing a blade that weighed 72kg. That's literally an entire person. I don't doubt that these blades existed but no one was doing forms with them... That's like claiming 3 meter ceremonial bearing swords were used in combat just because surviving examples exist. And guess what, THOSE swords only weigh around 5-7kg which is still far too heavy for actual use just like the blade shown in the video.
I hope that 72kg is a typo. I think 7.2kg would be more appropriate, as it's still very heavy but manageable. Wielding something as heavy as a human for some military entrance exam seems rather unlikely...
@@thunderryu0494 It is not a typo. As OP stated, those heavy dao were not intended to be weapons but was a form of weight lifting or strength feat. In the link below you can see a guy swinging around a 50kg guandao to get an idea of what this entails.
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Yeah, that 72kg weight comment has to be misinformation. There’s no way someone is swinging a weapon around that weighed 150+ lbs….even for a test of strength in a military sense. That’s not happening, chief.
@@Lucef Their are humans who can throw a 170kg bar into the air when the perform a snatch in Olympic style lifting. Lifting up a 75kg bar and moving it around is entirely possible as a feat of strength. No, it does not behave like a weapon but that was not the point. It was mean to be a test of strength and was tested along with pulling a heavy bow or performing a deadlift with a heavy stone.
The Kwan Dao, or horse-cutter, is a heavy polearm. Usually, they are so heavy that one has to move with the momentum of the weapon, do not fight the weapon and its mass.
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A proper Kwan Dao would have a much longer shaft, though.
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But yeah, this model was mostly likely meant to train ALL dem muscles while doing all the training exercises but actual combat with it, so when you get something that weights 1/3rd of it you'll be fighting like you're holding a bamboo stick.
Also, almost every xianxia has the main character wielding some metric tons heavy slab of meal that's vaguely sword shaped so the idea of a "heavy sword" is deeply rooted in the east :D
longer blade, shorter shaft is Madao or horse cutter. shorter blade, longer shaft is Kwandao.
That's what I thought. If you wielded the weapon like it wants to be, rather than how you want to wield it, it will be plenty effective. Just don't swing it like a sword, swing with it like a berserker.
那是不一樣的東西... 且"Kwan Dao" 與影片展示的刀都是幻想武器 可見日本人觀看改編歷史小說 "三國演義"製作的電玩 "真三國無雙"之中的武器深得人心
One fact about the weight - Apparently in medieval China, super heavy Guan Dao (like 40kg at heavy at least) were used during army officer exams, to test potential candidates' martial prowess - and considering the myth of weapons' origin, it being heavier than normal sword seems fitting.
That sounds like over romanticized nonsense, more than historical fact. There's a lot of that with Chinese history of those periods.
Nobody is going to be able to show any form with a 40kg+ weapon. That's a fairly big guy trying to swing half their body weight about. Even with steroids trying to aggressively move and control a mass that size is going to start detaching body parts from the skeleton.
@@RanOutOfChannelNames The weapons with increase weights part then were mainly used as training/exercise or to "show off" the user's strength. When used on the battlefield, everything goes back to normal weights, similar to everywhere else on the planet.
@@RanOutOfChannelNames There are apparently plenty of those things hanging around in museums, so whatever the truth may be, they were being made for some reason.
And considering how weird the confucian inspired competence system worked in China, I would not put it past them to require an officer to wave a giant cleaver around with grace to get a promotion...
Still, there is also plenty of more user-friendly weighted examples of chinese two-handed swords/glaives, and those things are super scary as well.
Personally though? I am more partial to a two handed jian style than Guandao/Dadao/etc, but that's just my aesthetic preference.
I actually just thought it was for executions really.
This is called the Zhan Ma Dao, which was equipped in ancient China for heavy infantry to fight against light cavalry. There is a similar type called Mo Dao used to counter cavalry
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Weight and edge alignment....
Well if you get the edge alignment correct, it appears like you'll cut right through them! If you don't get the edge alignment correct then you will bludgeon them to death!!
Either way they won't be a problem again!!
The historical ones were much lighter and easier to wield. The rings were weighted to help with the center of gravity, create intimidating noise, to ward off bad spirits, and they also kept other bladed weapons from sliding down the back side towards the wielder if you ever locked up with them. Plus it also had a decorative and ascetic purpose.
I don’t know about the keeping other bladed weapons from sliding down bit. The rings barely project far enough to act as a catch against other weapons, but also, they move around, so anything with enough force will just pass through the rings with ease. Maybe the noise thing could be viable, but I really only see that as a flashy demonstration than actually being a feature that was serviceable in combat. Also, weighted? To help with balance????? How? If the rings are weighted, but they’re applied on the weapon, specifically the blade, then if anything it would just make it more top heavy and clumsy than actually working to balance it out. If that were the case, then the "weighted" rings should be on the hilt to offset the weight of a heavier blade.
@@SerAvaros my guess with the rings is that, if the weapon was used in a certain way, they would / could add extra force to a cut as the rings add their momentum from moving from the handle side towards the point side of the blade, literally pushing the blade a bit more after it is stopped. I don't know how much extra force, if any that would add.
As for stopping a sliding weapon on the back... doubtful the rings will stop a slide BUT they may cause a deflection. As in rather than the opponents blade sliding all the way down to the hilt and hand it would hit a ring and bounce / deflect away from the hilt or hand entirely.
These are the explanations ChatGPT will bounce back, but if you look for sources, none of them really have documentation. The idea of warding off evil spirits has some cultural grounding, but nobody actually ever wrote anything (that I know of) that says "this is what we use this for."
@@Lurkily_Esh "as far as we have found" should be added to that tho. China has had a lot of pretty bad civil wars and writings tend to get burned during those times.
Ceremonial, cultural, morale reasons however are usually a safe bet.
Especially in China which also enjoyed long stretches of relative peace in between all the civil wars where ceremony and fashion could and did become the main design principle behind things that would rarely if ever be used outside parades and ceremony. It's also the reason why more of those particular "weapons" would survive when the more practical war weapon would not.
It's the Guan Dao. Person it was named after, Guan Yu, was supposedly superhumanly strong. In legend, Guan Yu used a 49 kg version of this with ease and agility. His accomplishment was so amazing that he was eventually revered to diety status and worshipped as the God of War.
Damn, is Guan Yu was superhumanly strong, and his weapon weighs that much, how strong was Lu Bu to be able to was and just his weapon weight and suoerhuman strength.
Guan Dao is much longer and heavier, and it's not a real field weapon that was used. Guan Yu was documented to be a spear user while on horse back, like everyone else.
Blade-of-choice for the White Scars
Big fan of Guan Yu aka General Kwan and his Kwan do.
chinese person here. For us lot, the Guandao resenmbles more of a glaive than this thing is, and we normaly se it as an interpretantion of the Podao（which is also a kind of double-edged blade that can be made to look like a Guandao, but normally just looking like what shad depicts here.) hope that adds some knowledge.
This is a good change from katanas. Katanas are fun, but this is a nice change. Also this sword reminds me of the Elvish swords used in the fellowship of the ring and the two towers.
i think its usually ment for counter heavy cavalry, normally used by small group of strong soldiers in heavy armor, they are better at chopping horse leg most of the time.(while myth says they
cut thru horse neck and rider at the same time, which is very unlikely to succeed)
and u DO NOT hold the sword's weight on ur hand. user generally drag them on floor and swing them upward or spin horizontally with the end of handle. let target or ground to stop the momentum. thats how u apply weight into advantage rather than disavantage
also, dont worry about the edge gonna be blunt. u can basicly think it as blunt weapon. they ant ment to be paper cutter
its similar to chinese bone chopper(kitchen knife) buy a bone chopper kitchen knife and test them out. they serve the same design
the thicker blade provide better support to the edge to chop thru bones.
A hundred points for knowing the difference between 'damascus' steel and pattern-welded steel 👏
I think it is an anti-cavalry polearm. The rings are to keep it from going through the target, and you can put ribbon streamers on them.
Poor horsey.
So the rings stop you from getting your weapon stuck too deep in the horse body. Morbid to think of, but it makes sense at first thought.
Yeah think so, it use to stop cavalry house charging in, the person will lay low as soon the house come toward the person , he will move side low and cut the horse legs ......and the rings prevent it going into the abdomen and get stuck if the blade accidentally cut into the abdomen
这个成本很高不会大规模装备而且对体力要求很高，步兵反骑兵的制式装备应该是矛、拒马、弩、铁蒺藜这些
@@evanmuir4587 這個是屬於陌刀的升級版，是專門來砍騎兵用的
要用這樣的武器，你需要的是武人，而非當代人
這樣的武器在古代一直都是配置在前線用，你衝進城的瞬間能讓人馬分離
Don't change the title! That is a very Insanwe sword!
agreed
He already did told him to put it back
I used to practice with a large Kukri sword, which is probably similar in width to that blade, and I found that 'stopping' the momentum was the wrong move, rather use your momentum to carry you into your next blow; it requires that you keep the blade in constant motion but it is a lot easier than starting and stopping.
Exactly.
This type of weapon was designed to basically mow down as many enemy soldiers on the field as fast and effortlessly as possible (which might sound counter-intuitive, given the weight of the weapon, but actually, once you got it going at full speed by rotating it all around your body, it takes surprisingly little efforts to keep the momentum going, since the weapon's centrifugal force is doing all the work. All you gotta do is keep a supple enough "grip" (actually, you're not even supposed to have a tight grip on it, otherwise it will impede on the celerity and mobility of the weapon) to let it keep its flow, and its weight will basically do the job by itself.
Once the opposing army is minced meat, you stop the weapon by vertically planting its shaft in the ground (not super practical, but always better than plant the blade in the ground).
Shad and co. are doing a great job at being curious enough to try out weapons other than European, but they always come at it with the same set of moves. To each weapon its culture and its martial arts. If you wanna try the weapon, you also have to learn how its original wielders were doing it. It's a full package (which is why his repeated attempts at nunchuks were really frustrating, coz he kept using and analyzing them from a western scientific perspective, without taking in account the cultural aspect, history, and the philosophy of the weapon, which was never a weapon of war, designed to mow down armored soldiers, but more like an everyday self defense weapons for farmers who have not much at their disposal, so joining 2 sticks with a rope was all they could afford to do, with sometimes some additional fine-tuning with blades or mini scythes at the end of it, for more lethality. The nunchuks were basically the first example of DIY weapons of the poor that became an actual discipline through okinawan karate practitioners or later, shaolin monks, who made it an official martial art weapon).
@@jjstarrprod Maybe the vcr you want looks like this? xD th-cam.com/video/6Pz3WCQ5JBo/w-d-xo.html
My main thought on the rings is that when performing the forms, they could have created a specific sound. So when the blade creates a clear ring on every strike and it remains silent otherwise, you're doing it correctly. An easier way to prep and grade soldier performances, or give decorative performances.
the actual purpose for the rings is after you slash across the body cavity,the rings would catch intestins as the blade exits.pulling out your guts.
I think my favorite part of Ant's appearances is he's just so happy to be involved
He's starting to relax a bit, too. I hate being on camera (which I have to do sometimes for my job), and I never feel completely comfortable doing it. I think he's starting to look more natural.
This is a glaive/glave with shortened shaft. Think of it as a Guandao with shorter shaft, or a Chinese messer with shorter heavier blade and longer shaft.
One of the most famous variant of Chinese glaive weapon would be Guandao (used by Guan Yu according to the novel). Huang Zhong also used a glaive but with tip curled like an elephant's nose.
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@@SeanHiruki Fellow fan of the Mask Painter! I hope you like the latest development of the Ravages of time Graphic novel.
fun fact ring Dao mostly use for execution so it being heavy is correct it being functional because people like to interrupt puplic execution so this blade can be use for the executioners to defend themself with it not meant as a battlefeild weapon
Let’s get the terminology right:
In Chinese martial arts Dao （刀） can be translated as Sabre or Knife, they are single edged.
Depending on size and usage， 单刀 Dan Dao （Single Sabre）， 青龙偃月刀 Qing Long Yan Yue Dao （Azure Dragon Crescent Sabre， this is more a polearm), 屠龙刀 Tu Long Dao (Dragon Slaying Sabre).
While 菜刀 Cai Dao （vegetable/cooking knife), 小刀 Xiao Dao （small knife/sabre）.
The word Blade /edge is Ren (刃）, but this is not listed in the eighteen types of weapon disciplines. It mainly refers to weapons with cutting edges.
As someone mentioned, 剑 Jian (Sword) is for double edged, non polearm weapons.
And Katana is not considered as a sword in Chinese terminology, it is considered as a Sabre 刀 （Dao).
Dao is translated into blade, not Knife. Knife in English emphasizes it's SMALL.
@@dougdu Ren 刃 is blade， Dao (刀） in Chinese can means knife: Fruit Knife is called 水果刀 :D
@@lukeyip7397 这里在讲的是中文翻译成英文。在英文中‘knife'是小刀，匕首类的武器，不适宜形容大的刀或者剑。'blade'是可大可小。‘刃’在英文中可以翻译成 'blade' ，但是更正确的是'edge'.
I would translate Ren as "cutting edge" and Dao as "single-edged blade."
@@dougdu 对，我同意您的说法。只是想把简化地纠正一下。如果要写的话，可能可以写成一篇论文。 🤭😂
These type of weapons may usually been used as ceremonial weapons, or for martial arts performance,those metal rings are perfect for making sounds while marching or performing. quite different from what i saw in museums, real ancient war weapon were both simple and slim,even those two-handed weapons are"smaller"than i expected.
Nice to see a Chinese polearm. Great stuff.
Edit: Would love a comparison with a Nagamaki or Naginata.
It's like a short hafted, long bladed glaive
Watching you swing that thing is like watching a video game character use a heavy sword.
Wish you invited a practitioner to demonstrate the best way to weild such weapon. Great episode as always ⚔️
I looked up the purpose of the nine rings. The first is to look good and deterrent, the second is for the center of gravity, because when you swing it forward, the nine rings will also move forward, increasing the kinetic energy of the swing; the third is to prevent it from cutting too deep, because if it cuts too deep into the human body, it is easy to get stuck in the bones and it is difficult to pull out, so these rings are used to limit the depth of the cut.
This reminds me of the character Wan Fun from Samurai Shodown that was wielding a similar sword, except with a smaller handle. And when he was hitting with it, he was basically throwing it towards the opponent then grabbing the hilt to not lose it. I can imagine this is how you should use a sword that heavy.
Loved the video, as always! 😊🎉 As a new practitioner of Traditional Chinese-Swordsmanship (not the kind that’s slow kata, but designed to be fast and involve sparring), this sword reminds me heavily of the ZhanMaDao (horse-chopper)-they were long-handled cleavers, oftentimes, which were used during a time when mounted warfare was common in China. ZhanMaDao were oriented around stopping cavalry and/or dismounting horsemen, but were not as optimized to face infantry, due to their weight and heft, if I recall correctly (not a dueling weapon, but optimized for stopping a dedicated-charge). I’m a new guy to the art, so definitely double-check me. Thanks for this awesome video, and Long Live The Shadlands! 🥳
A single devastating use, that actually is a good possibility
My 7 foot tall Red Panda man in my friends D&D campaign uses one of these (mechanically a Glaive) and I love it. The character is heavily inspired by Guan Yu the Saint of War, but if he was a Red Panda pirate lmao.
If you don't wield it like a katana or a sword, maybe you'll feel much better. A very similar weapon named "Tang Dao" are being used in ancient military to stop the calvary (target horse leg) or to face the heavy armored infantry (?). You have only 1 chance to wield it, swing the blade, then leave the rest to the guy behind you whose usually carrying normal weaponry.
The nine-ring broadsword's rings are said to prevent the blade from cutting too deeply into a limb, such as getting stuck in bones and being difficult to remove. The rings on the back of the sword limit this effect. The nine-ring broadsword was generally used for martial arts demonstrations, or possibly as a training tool for soldiers to build strength during drills, rather than in actual combat.
Ancient Chinese military tactics placed a significant emphasis on formation coordination. The main components were crossbowmen, with melee infantry using swords and shields, backed by spearsmen or halberdiers. Additionally, unlike in many other countries, ancient China often measured a general's martial prowess by their archery skills, such as how many pounds they could pull on a bow, rather than by their swordsmanship. Therefore, the technological advancement of melee weapons did not progress as rapidly as that of ranged weapons.
IIRC, the Dao (It may have been specifically the Guandao) was deliberately forged to be heavy to be a means of training a soldier's strength.
The guandao is my favorite weapon!
What do you think about Guan Yu's guandao "Green Dragon Crescent Blade" which weighed 82 Chinese jin (estimated either at 18.26 kg (40.3 lb) or 48.38 kg (106.7 lb)
YES!! Guan Yu's Guandao and Zhang Liao's Yanyuedao !! two awesome crescent blades !!! I honestly don't know the differences of the 2. but it's what my older cousin taught me 20 yrs ago lol
Personally I think that it was just a legend told about him and the time period, not an actual weapon that he actually used - if it even actually existed. A 40 lb weapon is absurd, even people who are in peak physical condition and regularly lift weights and do body training would struggle immensely to swing that around as an actual weapon.
......i'm training with a 36lb 6' yoga bar. I'll be training with a Guan Yu guandao in about 1 year or so....................... 🙏❤
@@Hirome_Satou .......i'm 5'10" 175lbs and 40 yrs old. I twirl a 36lb 6' yoga bar and train shao lin staff with it. You are just out of shape, and i'm not even close to Arnold or Sly... get on the floor and do some push ups 🙏❤
@@theadmiral4625 Good for you? Also, putting up a praying symbol and a heart doesn't mitigate the fact that you're trying to insult me.
Let's go Shad, Tyranth, and Antbro!
Fun fact, they still used it during the Japanese invasion of China where a Chinese Nationalists armed with a medieval weapons because they were limited on firing arms.
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It looks like a close quarters combat weapon with such a long handle
I heard of stories by Chinese ppl (claimed to be true, but I don’t think we can find a reliable source, those stories are 80 year old)
Someone used a more gross version of this thing to kill 5-6 Japanese soldiers before being shot.
A group of soldiers equipped with this once entered melee combat with the Japanese soldiers and won against them with this kind of large blades and a high K/D ratio
Look for big sabre teams ww2, it a shorter and lighter version of the weapon shown.There is no 9 rings
My guess: It is made heavy on purpose. It is like a boxer holding dumbbells doing their shadow boxing for enhancing their endurance and strength. It is made heavy for the noble warrior family practice Tao-Lu(equals Kata in Japanese martial arts) in their garden, sometimes cutting something like wood or bamboo with it, and that is also good for practice, so the edge is still made sharp.
I checked that the nine rings seems like for generating the sound effect when the users practice their Tao-Lu with this sword, this is sure.
Put the typo back it’s encouraged comments. Remember everything happens for a reason . A new video with a ton of comments is helpful for the algorithm
so the first weapon our new guy uses on camera is a dao? we are off to a good start
no, he was introduced and used another weapon on the other vid.
but I'd call Ant -- Ron
@@YandreYak well that was an introduction video so i dont think it could be counted as a "weapon tryout" video
Impressive for Shad to do that chopping with his chronic fatigue, well done mate
環首大刀，這邊的好像太厚實了一些，一般的只有刀根較厚
這刀是用在馬上，長度比一般刀劍更長，但也可以用在步戰上
目的很明確，就是敵人有穿盔甲的情況也可以一刀斃命，同時比長槍靈活、不容易被捉住，可以雙手使用也可以單手操作
影片中揮舞的方式錯了，單用腕力去揮舞會很累，要利用慣性 、前手要不停改變位置
i heard that the chinese use this weapon in WW2 (most likely without the rings though).
if you want to use it, i think you need spinning movements, just follow the weight. If you want to stop it use the ground instead your muscle. Most likely need a lighter version still.
the rings ... maybe if you want to hit someone with the dull side of the blade, the rings will hurt more lol
...........it's actually very practical: i've been training with a 36lb yoga bar for 1 year now. After another year i will be able to start training on the kuan / guan dao......... which is what you're holding but on a 6' pole with a spear tip on the bottom end............. 🙏❤
Congrats on the training and good luck with the future progress. My question is this: In terms of functionality, how is this “practical”?
That's the thing. It works for training because the purpose is to push yourself.
In combat or even using it as a tool, you don't want to get tired in the first 5 minutes. Even if you can keep going, the power loss will be too high to make it practical in any real situation.
@@bbotelhoHI Well these weapons are designed for anti-cav purposes, but it seems like this one was made for flair or executions, since it's heavier than the norm for them.
@@bbotelhoHI ...like The Black Death says below: the functionality is against cavalry. It's also "practical" against the majority of infantry. Remember irregardless of Asians or Europeans, the majority of any infantry consists of peasant conscripts. The only 300-esque fighters were the Spartans and "Tartars" = Mongolian horde under Genghis Khan... After cleaving off a few arms and legs, formations break and people run....
@@theadmiral4625 appreciate the replies. Thanks for the clarification
The movement of this chunky dao makes it look like the weapon of a norse berzerker
10:04 The rings are suppose to 'work' with the momentum. The theory is, when the blade is held vertically the rings will fall downwards torwards the hilt helping the user control the sword, and when swung the ring will then transfer to weight to the blade adding to momentum of the cut. Furthermore, the rings are also designed to act as guards for the blade so that it doesn't cut too deep and get stuck in the flesh when chopping an enemy (meaning its not meant for very 'finess' sword combat) it more of a you swing (only from top to down), you hit, then you kick/shove/punch your enemy away from you to dislodge sword then repeat, kind of weapon.
Also, the design of the blade is kinda off, the sword itself is suppose to be lighter weight (size is right though) whereas traditionally the rings would be much larger and heavier than what they are on this sword.
the weapon is used for horse riding charging. the rider will charge n hold the saber, it also heavy to swing, like a halberd to knock away objective or cut through helmet. if i rmb the ring is to help the rider to pick up the saber while riding if the weapon is dropped or to plug out the saber if stuck, imagine if stuck u can hold any ring, place ur feet n pull out the saber. This weapon is used during the Tang and Song dynasty, back then chain and metal plate armor are very popular so heavy weapons that can knock back, cause impact and smash through armor are widely used. a saber like this can also be used as a thin shield.
You're right, this sword is isanewe lol
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I'm glad i got a screenshot of my notification before the title got changed.
There's actually a tradition of training with overweight pole arms in a lot of Chinese martial Arts. It's a lot like those oversized Temple swords in Japan except people actually trained with them as a show of strength.
From weight and stamina usage - looks like a cool eccentric replacement for a dumbbells. You have here cardio+stretches and a light/medium physical exercise (depending on a speed and intensity)
Use your torso as fulcrum and slightly pull the rear arm , part of the shaft never leaves your body , forearm is for stabilization, legs to orient the whole pelvis and brings the torso to work the blade.
thats such beautiful ringed dao,i love it
The heavy weight of the weapon is for the purpose of physical conditioning whereas the actual ones used for combat weighed less, also this weapon was used from horse back and was also used to target and slice another horses legs hence it's nickname of the Horse Chopper/Horse Cutter. (Source: I am a Kung fu instructor and I have trained with this weapon)
Tyranth attacking that pool noodle reminded me of an Elden Ring character spamming light attacks with a colossal type weapon XD 15:38
I think we need an asterisk on this weapon, saying "It's too heavy for a normal person, but a body builder could probably use it with ease." Like, if it were built like this, it could only be a weapon for specialized warriors.
I don’t know if it’s the case with this dao, but normally the rings are made of iron and used to increase the weight. As for why that’s the case…I dunno, I’m not super familiar with Chinese weapons.
Plus the more you train with it, the more you will be used to the weight of it.
From a pure strength perspective I can see how that could work. However from a practicality standpoint training with the weapon that behaves differently than it would in battle does not seem like a good idea to me.
It lead to overswinging the lighter weapon, leading to loss of balance hyperextension of an arm and so on.
Seems to me the turtle hermit method would be more reliable for just gaining pure strength. (Only partial sarcasm there)
The rings are a counter measure , it prevents enemy weapon from sliding towards its user too smoothly , being loosely connected to the blade, any contact over that section isn't going to be solid enough to affect handling, thus fluidity of motion can be maintained. Last but not least ,cutting edge would be damaged when swiping through the rings , while the latter are replaceable.
In East Asian term any single blade weapon mainly used for cutting regardless long or short is called Dao and any double edged sword is called Jian. Even Japanese sword written in Kanji is 太刀 which means large “dao”.
The word you're looking for, Shad, is "glaive."
I’d say it’s more of a polesword than a glaive
@@quakxy_dukx The "polesword" is called swordtaff. Shad even has a video about that :) *goes rewatch*
@@walkir2662 polesword is also a legitimate term
You're using it wrong. 14+ years experience in Chinese martial arts. There's a technique/s to offset the weight and cutting problems
Love to see the racism towards anything Asian by you westerners
When slashing with force, the rings will move forward with inertia, and the center of gravity of the sword will shift toward the direction of the cutter head, thus increasing the slashing and lethality
If you just did general research instead of making uneducated opinions on foreign weapons you'd be able figure such things out.
Plus props to you for complaining about using a weapon without using the proper forms associated with those weapons
The ring helps to separate the flesh when cut deep, easily to draw back from the cut.
Weapons which are heavy either design to break the target with a precise chop or to allowed the users to ride the momentum and won't stop until the battle is ended. So there will be specific dance for this type of weapons which designed to go on loop. Also the ancient armors were generally wood rather than metal, so the heavy blade won't stuck when chopped the enemies.
A weapon like this isn't meant to be used in such a manner, it's similar to heavy Chinese weapons used in the past, it's actually a weapon that's meant to be used after building up momentum and that momentum is meant to be redirected rather than stopped the martial movement and technique is often as much a part of how to properly utilize a weapon as the blade or handle.
This Dao (砍馬刀) is for cutting the horse leg. When the horseman is down on ground, use the tip to kill him. The rings are for making sound to scare the enemy at war (usually before battle)
Actually... it is called a Guan Dao. In Chinese Dao 刀 means knife, or single edge blade. A dao can be anything from a knife (xiao dao 小刀 small blade), to a single edge sword (miao dao 苗刀 cutlass/dusack/falchion), to this type of polearm. Guan 关 means to shut or close. The story goes this weapon was used for soldiers who blocked cavalry and was used to chop down horses.
Historically this was called a crescent moon sword "yanyuedao" 偃月刀.
As far as the rings, they were added to various weapons during the resurgence of martial arts competitions during the late 70's and 80's.
Typically the pole was longer, about 4 or 5 feet or up to nipple. And the blade was shorter, about 45 to 50 centimeters. It still was a heavy weapon, no more than about 5kg.
This is 陌刀 from Tang dynasty, elite infantry use this type of blade against cavalry since regular blades are to short.
This is not Mo Dao (陌刀) from Tang Dynasty
Mo Dao was describe as 刀棒 or Blade Staff due to its size, which was around on average 10 Tang Dynasty Chi in length, which is slightly more than modern 10 feet, and Mo Dao weighs an average 50 Tang Dynasty small Jin, or around modern 24 - 25 pounds. And Mo Dao was describe to be half staff/half blade, with "DOUBLE EDGE", not single edge like this, since Mo Dao can be used like shorter "Pike Wall" as well in order to stop charging cataphracts. Some Mo Dao were even longer and heavier than normal average Mo Dao.
The only similarity between these and Mo Dao are, both are classified as Zhan Ma Dao type weapons which were used against Horse Archers and Heavy Cataphracts. The closest to Mo Dao i think was the early Northern Song Dynasty Pi Zhen Dao (劈阵刀) or Formation Destroyer Blade which went out of used a while later and was replaced by much smaller 7 Song Dynasty Chi Zhan Ma Dao which was an equivalent of roughly 7'4" to 7'6" inches modern feet.
I suspect Pi Zhen Dao might be the same thing as Mo Dao or maybe very closely resemblance each other. Since the Song War Minister describe Pi Zhen Dao as unusable by normal soldier in case of emergency and required a great deal of training, but Zhan Ma Dao can be used easily in term of emergency with very minimal training only, hence Pi Zhen Dao / Mo Dao went extinct from history.
Take a look at most Guandao forms - the amount of "spinning" in the interlude is there for good reason - momentum building before, and divesting remaining inertia after the follow-through.
A weapon like this isn't meant to be used in such a manner, it's similar to heavy Chinese weapons used in the past, it's actually a weapon that's meant to be used after building up momentum and that momentum is meant to be redirected rather than stopped the martial movement and technique is often as much a part of how to properly utilize a weapon as the blade or handle. The rings serve as a counterweight to increase inertia as well as to trap thinner faster swords like the Jian and sometimes we're used to snap it with a sudden turn.
This large single-edged sword was used by the Song Dynasty in ancient China after it lost the horse-breeding land in the northern territory. It was a helpless move to use heavy-armored infantry to fight against the cavalry of the northern nomadic peoples. Later, warriors with particularly strong strength would also use it.
It looks like a Bowie knife on a stick.
Less a stick and more a pole considering the size.
The rings of the Nine-Ring Sword are designed to enhance its chopping effect. When the sword is held upright, the metal rings hang downwards, causing the center of gravity to shift towards the handle, making the sword easier to control. During chopping, the metal rings are flung forward by inertia, shifting the center of gravity towards the blade tip, thereby increasing the chopping force.
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the most realistic and similiar weapon used in history is at BC 622, battle of Talas, a battle between Arabian and Tang dynasty. it called "MO DAO", a good anti-cavalry weapon. since to against horse, it is longer and two edge, just like Roman Gladius sword added to a long stick
Tang dynasty did not exist until 618 AD. That is 1240 years after 622 BC.
@@PMC1911 a thousand year typo 😆
其实就算是中国人也不一定分得清这些刀，不过可以肯定的是评论区提的这些刀和视频里的还是不一样的。
九环刀（nine rings dao）、斩马刀（horse chopper）：都属于“大刀”，刀柄比较短；
朴刀（pu dao）、关刀（guan\kwan dao）：都属于长柄刀，刀柄要比刀身长得多。
很多中国刀都会在刀背上打环，据说有几种功能：1、让刀挥动时能产生巨大噪音威吓敌人；2、方便把刀从敌人尸体里拔出来；3、实力、军功的象征。
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Also for heavy weapons we don't really "stop" the weapon per say.
We use the weapon weight/momentum and redirect the force to continually slash the enemy.
The only stop is for the thrust.
This Dao is only used by land units with purpose to chop off horse leg with one swing. There is a much longer version for much wider range, like one swing from left to right or 360 degree and there is a combat technique to flow with the weights of the Dao, the mass force with the swing can stun your opponent then the next stroke might cut you in half. (The rings are for locking opponent's spear)
Right, it's not for the average Joe. Martial artists train for years to wield this thing. Btw the one the show here is an inaccurate copy.
The rings supposedly help add to the inertia when you swing.
Since it make a lot of noise, by using it, you are showing everyone that you are righteous. "you never stab anyone in the back" (it's neither silence nor stabbing weapon)
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in battle the rings prevent the enemy blade from sliding down the back of the blade into your hand. also they allow the user to more quickly remove a stuck blade. I suspect they provide indication of proper technique when training but most of the heavy Chinese weapons will let you know your technique was bad with sore shoulders.
The purpose of the rings are to add weight to your swings. ie, when you slash downwards, the rings flip, adding more weight to the tip, thus adding more power. They're also removable to lessen the weight.
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what about Chinese Nine Ring Dao？“在收藏兵器之前，小时候听评书，那个九环大刀印象颇深，评书里面说哗楞哗楞的非常有效果，相当于出场就带着BGM，后来港台影视剧进来后，发现主角基本不怎么用这个兵器，反而是虾兵蟹将喜欢用，这个神奇的兵器就慢慢从心里退了光...
后来开始收藏兵器了，才明白这个九环大刀仅仅存在评书和小说中，这两年自媒体、公众号各种瞎逼吹刀背的环什么能借助惯性增加劈砍能力，还能防止刀砍入过深，啥啥啥的...
这都是屁话，那几个环能增加啥惯性，总共几个环没有几十克重量，不起任何作用。
九环大刀这类东西实物有没有？九个环的我没见过，一个环的见过，都是民国大砍刀的造型，这类刀大概率都是当年打把势卖艺时候用，在刀头上加个环，挥舞起来哗楞哗楞带个音效，旁边观众看着也热闹...
兵器中越是华丽的增加这类屁用没有附件，功效约差，古往今来，战场的兵器都是简素干练，能打的兵器都质朴...”
You should try a more historically accurate one. The rings should be bigger and 2-3 times as heavy, and the blade half the weight or less. This is what allows significant weight/center of gravity distribution because the rings are a bigger ratio of the total weight and have much larger play of movement.
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I did hung gar and choi li fut for a number of years and trained with a similar style of 9 ring broadsword, although the grip was only about 1/3 of the length on mine, but it still accomodated 2 hands. The shorter grip makes more sense to me as a weapon, because the longer grip seems to get in the way and a lot of the forms I learned mostly only require one hand. There are a couple of things I noticed while training with it. The rings shift the centre of mass of the blade (when the sword is thrusted properly with power coming from the hips and shoulder) adding force to the tip and leading cutting edge. This is probably an intentional design. The rings also make a very different sound when the sword is used with proper power and speed. The sharp clack they make is handy as an audible training tool. Also, I have occasionally heard it referred to it in kung-fu circles as "The Horse Cleaver™" and have heard that was an anti-cavalry side-arm weapon, in which case it's weight and momentum would make sense. I have no idea about the veracity of this, however. What I am sure of though is that the blade (at least on the weapons I trained with) is a thicc beast.
sharp plus heavy weight. Whoever try to block a downswing will feel quite a shock from their arm sockets. This weapon is usually for mounted troops (longer handle). Those who try to wield this on foot requires even more strength and dangerous when wielded correctly.