On recognizing a person long after the event: In 2014 I was on a one night stopover in Hong Kong and wanted to see what was the umbrella movement about. About 8pm I walked out onto the roadway where the protesters were camping, no one else was on the road. In just a minute a person appeared next to me and asked me why I was there. I said that I had been tear gassed in Washington DC years ago and wanted to see what this movement was like. He bowed and backed off. I continued walking the entire length of the night encampment unmolested. Several years later, I recognized his photo in a magazine; the person I had interacted with for a few seconds was Jimmy Lai.
No shit! You just met with a genuine billionaire that night. That bloke has at least two listed companies at that time under his directorship. Jimmy LaI also became a devoted Catholic and is the dad of two of my schoolmates. You might have noticed that he walked casually in very unnoticeable cloths, and you might have mistaken him for another coolie because he is not a small size man. He is very kind and understanding to public but very demanding with his employees. Those worked for him for over 3 years would prove to be one of the best in the city. Jimmy has come to his next calling. It will be a different and difficult journey. there are millions of people walking with him.
Great little video about an amazing bloke! Thank you for this. Personally I think if Hitler had been looking at Tandey's face along the barrel of an SMLE whilst he was contemplating whether or not to pull the trigger I tend to think his face would be laser etched in Hitler's memory! Incidentally, you mentioned the fighting up the Menin Road in October '14... my cousin (twice removed) Pte. Reg Clark is still there. He was fighting alongside his best friend from the same village in the Cotswolds with whom he had joined up on the same day. Reg fell and was never found whilst Albert survived just a few more days only to end up in the CWGC at Hooge Crater. Reg is remembered on the Gloucesters panel of the Menin Gate now. We will remember them.
Thanks again Chris for another excellent telling. Henry Tandey was made of tough stuff to receive so many wounds and survive. I would have liked him in my section if we were going over the top. Just incredible story and thanks again. Cheers
I have usually found myself agreeing with your conclusions but this time I am not so sure... If a rifle had been aimed at point-blank range and then lowered then yes, the face of the man holding it would be burned into the memoury of the man who had been terrified that he was about to die and he would remember that face for the rest of his life! Pte Tandy's comrades confirmed that he had sometimes spared wounded or unarmed enemy soldiers - how would Hitler have known this? These two points are not confirmation that the event took place, if indeed it did, but they certainly indicate that it should not be dismissed out of hand. After all strange things do happen in combat. Thanks, for all of you good work in making military history popular and thank you for telling the story of Pte Tandy VC. All the best, Ken. (Veteran of the RMP)
Funnily enough my wife and I just said exactly the same thing. If you're looking into the eyes of a man pointing a rifle at your head whilst he is contemplating whether or not to pull the trigger I imagine his face will be laser cut into your memory!
Hi Chris, it sounds like a great story. In the confusion of war anything is possible. Regardless Private Henry Tanley was a remarkable Soldier, wounded too many times in a senseless conflict, that lost a generation of young men. 🇬🇧
Fascinating. An extraordinary tale. Whatever the specific truth or not of that incident, the man was obviously an extraordinary soldier and clearly exceptionally courageous under fire. RIP.
just a great way of saying although we fought against each other we were all good guys caught up in a war against brothers not an enemy what an amazing way to show respect to the other side you never wanted to fight but then again he was a great guy
according to wiki Tandey was the 2nd most decorated soldier of WW1, LCpl Wiliam Holtman, a stretcher bearer, won an incredible VC, DCM & Bar, MM & Bar - both men were obviously exceptional
Great show, as usual ! One of those rarely known episodes of history that you can't find anywhere else - I for one had never heard about it, but as for the Green Howards - their later efforts during the Caen campaign and the Normandy invasion are quite well known... What about the painting mentioed in this episode, thee one hanging in their regimental museum to this day ? Well, if one Mr Schicklgruber, also known as H.. something or other took a liking to it, it might just simply be that the painting, as such, is somewhat reminiscent of Mr Schicklgrubers own artistic efforts - or simply a good painting in the realistic style...Years later - post 1945 let us say - one or several persons unknown might have noticed the paining actually being at the Berghof, and invented the story as an explanation for it being there...
A British soldier probably did let Hitler go, but human memory is notoriously unreliable so he just picked someone that suited his needs. Also even if the story is true, does it really matter? Hitler began his road to being a crazed dictator AFTER the war. During the war, he was just a normal soldier trying to get through alive.
Hitler having a step father who was a guard on the german/austrian border, there is an exceptionally high chance that he was infused with the dinner table rants of a fraustrated guard constantly complaining about the futility of the seperation of the german peoples, smuggling and the 'invasion' by lesser mortals. Post WW1 germany, like everywhere else, was a petri dish for all sorts of miseries and solutions, but it would seem that adolph was already on a slippery slope.
@@lachlanchester8142To be fair the person that possibly rescued him during the first world war would have no idea of the dreadful events that were to unfold in the future
Crazed dictator elected with >90% of the popular vote. Amazing people can disagree about all manner of historical events except this one USSR was a brutal, genocidal group of maniacs before 1941 and after 1945 Germany was a country of brilliant, Christian men except for 1941-1945
A mention in despatches is not something to be dismissed as "apart from mentions in despatches". It is a significant award particularly for enlisted men whose acts of courage and dedication were often passed over. It means that the Commanding Officer of a unit considered a man's contribution to the action to be sufficient to be mentioned by name in the report (the despatch) that was sent to the War Office and thus published in the London Gazette.. It falls not far short of the MM as far as enlisted men were concerned, which at the time were considered by many men as a sop to avoid granting too many DCMs
@@TheHistoryChap and that is an important indicator of the importance of what your grandfather did. In some ways it is more signifcant than a MM as Mentioned in Despatches had to be approved by the War Office and published in the London Gazette as did a DCM. A MM didn't have to have that level of approval, one of tthe reasons that finding citations for a MM is so difficult.
You should make a video about 1842 retreat from Kabul! It is a very heroic story of a british army officer during the victorian army. Edit: Captain Souter was interesting during it too.
Mr Tandy lived in Loudon Avenue, Coventry when I was a child. I would see him in the street quite often, he was a quiet man and I would never have guessed he was a war hero.
Very enjoyable story. Statistically I’d think the odds were pretty long against the incident from ever occurring. It is possible that Hitler, as a runner, could have been spared by a British soldier at some point but there should be some evidence of Hitler telling the story prior to Chamberlain’s missions if it is to be believed. Rather I think it was created to bolster Hitler’s narrative of divine selection and perhaps to allude to a natural German/British relationship.
Cheers! Great history, thanks chap! BTW, I believe it happened. Even though it was a fleeting moment, if you have ever been in a catastrophic event like a car crash (or combat), your memory goes into hyper focus where things seem to be in slow motion in your mind. Think of a film like The Matrix, its based on our true experiences.
As for Tandy saving Hitler's life ...hum not one jot. However the tale of a true heroic figure.... absolutely yes. Once again Sir well done.May I have more please!
The story strains credulity. Henry Tandey certainly was an amazing soldier and genuine war hero, and that makes him legend enough in my book. All the embellishments of this story with Hitler seem to cheapen his legacy to me.
You should make a video on (the battle of laing's nek) during the 1st anglo-boer War/1st transvaal War. It's a very interesting battle, and i would love to see a video on it. Stay well!
How many of us have the ability to do whats needed at the right time and place,but still retain the nerve (is that the right expression) to do the right thing,i know I couldn't . Do you think if the same war was on now how many people would take the first step ,i don't think many would certainly not if it involved putting themselves in danger,but such is the way of the world today thank god for people like Tandy and all the other unsung true heroes in war we should be doing more to show the young people what BRAVERY really means . sorry for the rant
One might wonder if he only he received his gallantry awards because he wasn't with his parent unit???? Or maybe he just stood out more as he was new to the unit.
Why would that make any difference he made the decision to act and lo and behold he saved lives,and was heroic,this was 1918 not 1818 . He was an enlisted man not an officer who had bought his rank ,he is the epitome of the majority of VC holders he was quiet about his war experience he didn't think he was a hero but he did do very heroic deeds.
@@andyblyth923 not doubting the man's courage but I am guessing he was courageous in the rest of the war preceding this, and sometimes people don't get the awards they should have because they are not put forward for them, or they get blocked that was just all I was trying to put across.
One story I heard is a documentary was that during one of Chamberlain’s 3 meetings with Hitler and Deladier was that at some point Hitler and Chamberlain got to talking about the war and were having a great conversation and eventually discovered that they had been stationed in trenches at the same place at the same time and could have been at the exact same part of the trench. As Chamberlain were waiting for their car, Deladier looked at Chamberlain and said: “You were 50 yards across from him with a rifle AND YOU MISSED”. Again, don’t know if that’s verified but I usually only watch reputable documentaries or read well researched books!
It's a bit like the story of Michael Keogh, the Irish-born Munich policeman who saved Hitler's life in an anti-Nazi riot in the 'twenties. Any truth in it?
If Tandey really said he was sorry he let Hitler live, then there is no doubt he let German soldiers live. Whether it was Hitler himself, we'll never know with certainty. Consider that being under extreme stress (as Hitler was in WW1) either sharpens your focus or breaks your ability to function properly. If Hitler was of the former persuasion, it is possible that he noted every tiny detail of his savior that fateful day.
The most implausible part of the myth might well be the idea that Hitler would hang (or even possess) the painting in the Berghof. The image and style seem counter to his very specific tastes in art, and chivalry wasn’t in his DNA. Of the many, many photos of the Obersalzburg house, is there even one that shows the painting of Tandy? If it were there, one would think other visitors who wrote afterwards would have remarked on it.
I don't think it happened (that Hitler was in the cross-hairs of Private Tandey). But I do think that Hitler unconsciously imagined the story once the painting was shown to him by his medical doctor. Dr. Mark Felton also has a segment on this story.
Really , the Army was the only way out for some people ,my Grandfather being one of them . He served in Egypt in the 30s and said it was a good decision on his part .
Ah, Chris old bean, ya scupped my hopeful chance of getting a John Wayne movie seen for the first time ever before it expires from Amazon Video availability tonight (luckily I do have the DVD anyway, so ain't no big deal), hahaha, with this update. But am glad ya did actually in the end, cos WOW, Henry Tandey, who's soldiering career of the Great War/World War I went from pretty uneventful and dull, with no big promotions or medals, to soaring up BIG time in September of 1918 with the particular acts of truly heroic medals worthy bravery you said of, and then Herr Hitler himself had the absolute NERVE to claim what he did using Tandey as the source, all of which I suspect and would preferably love to go with as being nothing but total lies, considering JUST what Hitler is to us all, one of history's most evilest, THE most evilest really, men ever... I'd certainly be up for that little 'What if...' moment Tandey remarked after the bombing of his home area of London during the Blitz, what if he HAD killed Hitler after all, and probably gone down as the man who could very well have prevented WWII itself from EVER happening, ya never know and we'll certainly never know anyway, haha. Seriously, just HOW do you constantly keep this continuous wowing and awe deliverance up every single week, Chris old bean, your channel really is hands down one of the BEST EVER for British military history regarding wars and conflicts and stories of particular single individuals from wherever whenever, if you hadn't posted last year's Dad's Army video about old Lance Corporal Jones...
The biggest question for me is why he remained a Private. He should have been promoted after being mentioned in dispatches, and certainly after receiving the DCM. Yet there he is leading groups of men as only a private, this is bizarre, by now he should have been a sergeant. That he was leading these small assault groups shows that he had leadership skills, so that is not a block to promotion. He should have been promoted after winning the VC, yet he left the Army still a Private ?
I have read that when he was promoted to Lance Corporal he asked to go back to private. Maybe he is one of those men who never seeks glory or promotions. They do exist.
@@TheHistoryChap Sounds right. There was a man in my regiment who served the full 22 as a Trooper, but could have easily made WO2 if he accepted promotion. Still a bit odd that Tandey accepted taking command of these small groups without taking the rank needed, it's no different to being paid the wage of a sales clerk while actually doing the job of manager.
It could have happened as Tandey had penchant for sparing enemy soldiers lives as for hitler remembering him after getting the painting is dubious although hitler could have been involved in such an incident.
It's probably true, if it isn't then most likely a case of mistaken identity. Hitler had an extraordinary war record in a sense, going through the war in an extremely dangerous role in the midst of what was already very heavy losses to the larger formations he was part of. He was noted for exceptional bravery, both during the war, and in the brawling and street fighting of the political climate after it. Like Mussolini he was not the type to lie (mussolini's memoirs are not flattering, though he is proud and boastful throughout confessions such as being a r*pist and once attacking some English ladies in Switzerland and stealing their picnic) but unlike him he was wise enough to omit certain things, it is only recently that historians have discovered that he was almost certainly on the communist side of the political chaos in Bavaria just after the war. I other words unlike several of those around him he was not the type to make stuff up, he was a true believer of his ideology, straightforward in his public persona and secretive in his personal life. We know a good bit about him due to the level of focus and interest by historians, many elements that might seem stilted have the complaints and powerplays within the party contextualing them with plenty of notes, diaries and paperwork surviving and showing that a considerable apparatuses of backbiting and power balances was set up around a man who liked to rant at his staff about politics inbetween falling asleep in his chair (and held in common with Stalin a love for American westerns). So we have a fairly good idea of his character, remarkable in some way, unremarkable in others, and notorious as a bit of a bore. It's a bit like when Putin mentioned going on special operations during his time in the KGB, and the media scrambled because that wasn't in his public record. Hitler probably had enough war stories to bore an archivist (certainly enough for people to give up noting all of them down), he certainly preferred the company of comrades from those times (often to the annoyance of Himmler). Knowing the media parts of the story actually happened and they just made up the bits they couldn't find out. They've still quite like that now, but at the time it is very common that rather than keep a story from print to confirm the matter they would just write something that couldn't get them in legal trouble ('he phoned but the kid of a relative answered ') rather than investigate properly or take an interest in anything boring or mundane.
I rather think I agree with you that it probably didn't happen, however, that doesn't mean that Hitler didn't convince himself that it had. Especially since Tandey was not an aristocrat or officer. If Hitler must admit to having been shown mercy on the battlefield, I am sure he found it very convenient to believe and tell others that the soldier who spared him was himself touched by "Providence". And perhaps, if enough people put the story about, and if Tandey really was in the habit of sparring the life of the odd German soldier, he may have come to believe, or accepted, that one of those German soldiers he chose not to kill really did turn out to have been Hitler... He, which is to say Tandey, probably wouldn't have had access to any information which would have cast doubt on Hitler's story.
There is always some truth in it. It might have not been Tandey but some other soldier who let Hitler go. and Hitler just put a face to the memory when he saw the painting. That how the brain works sometimes.
Winston Churchill was quoted as saying "the unforgivable sin of Hitlers Germany was to develop an economic system by which the international bankers were deprived of their profits" Id recommend everyone consider that statement as far as the WWII narrative and all other wars until today
ended usury basically slavery free the people from the capitalist system exploiting them how surprised he must of been how British Politian's were bought by the bankers to start yet another war including churchshill another bought man
I enjoyed your story, I have herd it before, but there is no evidence to support or repudiate it, I find that while possible that it is untrue, never the less, its a good story and one for the listener to make up their own mind. Well I will sit on the fence with many doughs to the truth if it.
I think Hitler did tell Chamberlain that story but the story was false. Hitler was not an ordinary runner, one assigned to someone right at the front like a company commander but a regimental runner, taking messages to battalion headquarters, to division headquarters or perhaps to a neighboring regimental headquarters. Not likely to have a close encounter with enemy infantry. Mainly endangered by artillery which did cause minor wounds to Hitler from time to time.
as old green Howard my self once a Howard always a Howard XlX this story has always got me thinking I know that the regiment had two of the pictures why was one meant for some one else but never never given to them
Regardless both were exceptional soldiers in ww1 only fitting they should have a story happened or not it would be far from the only made up story and theres no malice to this 1 seems more a way of showing respect
The truth may be like the unknown warrior some now long dead ordinary soldier simply let the begging Hitler live and it may or may not have been Tandy VC but these things do happen and it’s just conjecture as to if or who and when but imagine if those killed there may have been a worse German who could have been a less flawed individual who would have done far more evil so we may have been lucky to have ended up with the funny looking oddball Hitler and his lack of military strategy and belief in destiny.alls well that ends well.
It is untrue. No working class British family on low wages would possess a telephone in the late 1930s. This was almost unheard of. If this part of the story is untrue, then any credibility is lost and the whole story is a fabrication. The comment made by Tandy years later was simply a joking aside made to a reporter. It was not a statement of fact.
On recognizing a person long after the event: In 2014 I was on a one night stopover in Hong Kong and wanted to see what was the umbrella movement about. About 8pm I walked out onto the roadway where the protesters were camping, no one else was on the road. In just a minute a person appeared next to me and asked me why I was there. I said that I had been tear gassed in Washington DC years ago and wanted to see what this movement was like. He bowed and backed off. I continued walking the entire length of the night encampment unmolested. Several years later, I recognized his photo in a magazine; the person I had interacted with for a few seconds was Jimmy Lai.
Yet again another gem 5*
No shit! You just met with a genuine billionaire that night. That bloke has at least two listed companies at that time under his directorship. Jimmy LaI also became a devoted Catholic and is the dad of two of my schoolmates. You might have noticed that he walked casually in very unnoticeable cloths, and you might have mistaken him for another coolie because he is not a small size man. He is very kind and understanding to public but very demanding with his employees. Those worked for him for over 3 years would prove to be one of the best in the city. Jimmy has come to his next calling. It will be a different and difficult journey. there are millions of people walking with him.
@@andyblyth923A brave man and a gentleman.
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What an interesting story and what a soldier Henry Tandy was.
Great little video about an amazing bloke! Thank you for this. Personally I think if Hitler had been looking at Tandey's face along the barrel of an SMLE whilst he was contemplating whether or not to pull the trigger I tend to think his face would be laser etched in Hitler's memory! Incidentally, you mentioned the fighting up the Menin Road in October '14... my cousin (twice removed) Pte. Reg Clark is still there. He was fighting alongside his best friend from the same village in the Cotswolds with whom he had joined up on the same day. Reg fell and was never found whilst Albert survived just a few more days only to end up in the CWGC at Hooge Crater. Reg is remembered on the Gloucesters panel of the Menin Gate now.
We will remember them.
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Great comment..
Thanks again Chris for another excellent telling. Henry Tandey was made of tough stuff to receive so many wounds and survive. I would have liked him in my section if we were going over the top. Just incredible story and thanks again. Cheers
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Well said!
I have usually found myself agreeing with your conclusions but this time I am not so sure... If a rifle had been aimed at point-blank range and then lowered then yes, the face of the man holding it would be burned into the memoury of the man who had been terrified that he was about to die and he would remember that face for the rest of his life! Pte Tandy's comrades confirmed that he had sometimes spared wounded or unarmed enemy soldiers - how would Hitler have known this? These two points are not confirmation that the event took place, if indeed it did, but they certainly indicate that it should not be dismissed out of hand. After all strange things do happen in combat.
Thanks, for all of you good work in making military history popular and thank you for telling the story of Pte Tandy VC.
All the best,
Ken.
(Veteran of the RMP)
Am I missing something here ?
RMP - opinion rejected ❌
@@lachlanchester8142 I was not stating an opinion I was merely questioning one.
Funnily enough my wife and I just said exactly the same thing. If you're looking into the eyes of a man pointing a rifle at your head whilst he is contemplating whether or not to pull the trigger I imagine his face will be laser cut into your memory!
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Ah Magoo, you've done it again! Great story, well told. Thank you.
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Hi Chris, it sounds like a great story. In the confusion of war anything is possible. Regardless Private Henry Tanley was a remarkable Soldier, wounded too many times in a senseless conflict, that lost a generation of young men. 🇬🇧
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Fascinating. An extraordinary tale. Whatever the specific truth or not of that incident, the man was obviously an extraordinary soldier and clearly exceptionally courageous under fire. RIP.
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just a great way of saying although we fought against each other we were all good guys caught up in a war against brothers not an enemy what an amazing way to show respect to the other side you never wanted to fight but then again he was a great guy
Just goes to show 'no good deed goes unpunished'
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Richmond is a beautiful little town is very scenic area. The old church housing the Howards Museum is well worth a visit.
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Fascinating story Chris! Many thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed .
A great hero indeed, wordy of rememberance, thanks for sharing.
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according to wiki Tandey was the 2nd most decorated soldier of WW1, LCpl Wiliam Holtman, a stretcher bearer, won an incredible VC, DCM & Bar, MM & Bar - both men were obviously exceptional
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Saving someone's life doesn't make you responsible to how they lead that life
Completely agree,
Wow, thank you, a very intriguing story.
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The amazing part of this story isn’t the Hitler bit , it’s how brave a normal man can become in war .
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Many many thanks Chris
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Great show, as usual ! One of those rarely known episodes of history that you can't find anywhere else - I for one had never heard about it, but as for the Green Howards - their later efforts during the Caen campaign and the Normandy invasion are quite well known... What about the painting mentioed in this episode, thee one hanging in their regimental museum to this day ? Well, if one Mr Schicklgruber, also known as H.. something or other took a liking to it, it might just simply be that the painting, as such, is somewhat reminiscent of Mr Schicklgrubers own artistic efforts - or simply a good painting in the realistic style...Years later - post 1945 let us say - one or several persons unknown might have noticed the paining actually being at the Berghof, and invented the story as an explanation for it being there...
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Amazing! But I agree with you, probably it never happened but Herr Hinkel would be happy to make this acquaintance!
There is another myth story like this that I will tell in the future.
Very impressive! 🎖️
This wasa wonderful tale. Many thanks, Chris.
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What a fantastic story!, thankyou M8.
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A British soldier probably did let Hitler go, but human memory is notoriously unreliable so he just picked someone that suited his needs. Also even if the story is true, does it really matter? Hitler began his road to being a crazed dictator AFTER the war. During the war, he was just a normal soldier trying to get through alive.
Hitler having a step father who was a guard on the german/austrian border, there is an exceptionally high chance that he was infused with the dinner table rants of a fraustrated guard constantly complaining about the futility of the seperation of the german peoples, smuggling and the 'invasion' by lesser mortals. Post WW1 germany, like everywhere else, was a petri dish for all sorts of miseries and solutions, but it would seem that adolph was already on a slippery slope.
I think the point is just that Hitler could’ve been killed, so the later stuff wouldn’t have happened
@@lachlanchester8142To be fair the person that possibly rescued him during the first world war would have no idea of the dreadful events that were to unfold in the future
Crazed dictator elected with >90% of the popular vote.
Amazing people can disagree about all manner of historical events except this one
USSR was a brutal, genocidal group of maniacs before 1941 and after 1945
Germany was a country of brilliant, Christian men except for 1941-1945
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A mention in despatches is not something to be dismissed as "apart from mentions in despatches".
It is a significant award particularly for enlisted men whose acts of courage and dedication were often passed over. It means that the Commanding Officer of a unit considered a man's contribution to the action to be sufficient to be mentioned by name in the report (the despatch) that was sent to the War Office and thus published in the London Gazette..
It falls not far short of the MM as far as enlisted men were concerned, which at the time were considered by many men as a sop to avoid granting too many DCMs
Thanks for your feedback. My Grandfather was mentioned in despatches in WW2.
@@TheHistoryChap and that is an important indicator of the importance of what your grandfather did.
In some ways it is more signifcant than a MM as Mentioned in Despatches had to be approved by the War Office and published in the London Gazette as did a DCM.
A MM didn't have to have that level of approval, one of tthe reasons that finding citations for a MM is so difficult.
Really enjoyed that one.
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You should make a video about 1842 retreat from Kabul! It is a very heroic story of a british army officer during the victorian army. Edit: Captain Souter was interesting during it too.
Yes, I made one about Gandamak a couple of years ago, but it is worth a re-visit. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@TheHistoryChap Was the officer “Harry Flashman” ?
Great video.
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Mr Tandy lived in Loudon Avenue, Coventry when I was a child. I would see him in the street quite often, he was a quiet man and I would never have guessed he was a war hero.
Thanks so much for sharing.
Very enjoyable story. Statistically I’d think the odds were pretty long against the incident from ever occurring. It is possible that Hitler, as a runner, could have been spared by a British soldier at some point but there should be some evidence of Hitler telling the story prior to Chamberlain’s missions if it is to be believed. Rather I think it was created to bolster Hitler’s narrative of divine selection and perhaps to allude to a natural German/British relationship.
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Cheers! Great history, thanks chap! BTW, I believe it happened. Even though it was a fleeting moment, if you have ever been in a catastrophic event like a car crash (or combat), your memory goes into hyper focus where things seem to be in slow motion in your mind. Think of a film like The Matrix, its based on our true experiences.
many thanks.
As for Tandy saving Hitler's life ...hum not one jot. However the tale of a true heroic figure.... absolutely yes. Once again Sir well done.May I have more please!
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@@TheHistoryChap but may I have more please!
Great video about an ordinary bloke who stepped up.
The story strains credulity. Henry Tandey certainly was an amazing soldier and genuine war hero, and that makes him legend enough in my book. All the embellishments of this story with Hitler seem to cheapen his legacy to me.
The man who apparently saved Hitlers life also just happened to be the second most decorated British private of WW1😂
Maybe that is why Hitler claimed that he had been saved by him, rather than any old Joe.
A noble deed sometimes saves a monster candidate👍👍👍
Assuming that Hitler didn't fabricate the story of course.
@@TheHistoryChap Of course👍
You should make a video on (the battle of laing's nek) during the 1st anglo-boer War/1st transvaal War. It's a very interesting battle, and i would love to see a video on it. Stay well!
It's on my list. So many stories to tell, I think I'm going to be The History Chap for many years to come.
Very interested too as I own a Boer War medal to a veterinarian who served in the battle mentioned above.
How many of us have the ability to do whats needed at the right time and place,but still retain the nerve (is that the right expression) to do the right thing,i know I couldn't .
Do you think if the same war was on now how many people would take the first step ,i don't think many would certainly not if it involved putting themselves in danger,but such is the way of the world today thank god for people like Tandy and all the other unsung true heroes in war we should be doing more to show the young people what BRAVERY really means .
sorry for the rant
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Brilliant so interesting really hope it is true😊
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Amazing ✌️
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One might wonder if he only he received his gallantry awards because he wasn't with his parent unit???? Or maybe he just stood out more as he was new to the unit.
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Why would that make any difference he made the decision to act and lo and behold he saved lives,and was heroic,this was 1918 not 1818 .
He was an enlisted man not an officer who had bought his rank ,he is the epitome of the majority of VC holders he was quiet about his war experience he didn't think he was a hero but he did do very heroic deeds.
@@andyblyth923 not doubting the man's courage but I am guessing he was courageous in the rest of the war preceding this, and sometimes people don't get the awards they should have because they are not put forward for them, or they get blocked that was just all I was trying to put across.
One story I heard is a documentary was that during one of Chamberlain’s 3 meetings with Hitler and Deladier was that at some point Hitler and Chamberlain got to talking about the war and were having a great conversation and eventually discovered that they had been stationed in trenches at the same place at the same time and could have been at the exact same part of the trench. As Chamberlain were waiting for their car, Deladier looked at Chamberlain and said: “You were 50 yards across from him with a rifle AND YOU MISSED”. Again, don’t know if that’s verified but I usually only watch reputable documentaries or read well researched books!
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It's a bit like the story of Michael Keogh, the Irish-born Munich policeman who saved Hitler's life in an anti-Nazi riot in the 'twenties. Any truth in it?
I like to think the story is true.
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I think that it is possible that Hitler was "spared" from being shot by a British Soldier..... But was it Henry Tandy V.C.?
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If Tandey really said he was sorry he let Hitler live, then there is no doubt he let German soldiers live.
Whether it was Hitler himself, we'll never know with certainty.
Consider that being under extreme stress (as Hitler was in WW1) either sharpens your focus or breaks your ability to function properly.
If Hitler was of the former persuasion, it is possible that he noted every tiny detail of his savior that fateful day.
I've read a couple more comments reportedly made by Tandey that indicated he believed the story. On a UK govt military history site.
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The most implausible part of the myth might well be the idea that Hitler would hang (or even possess) the painting in the Berghof. The image and style seem counter to his very specific tastes in art, and chivalry wasn’t in his DNA. Of the many, many photos of the Obersalzburg house, is there even one that shows the painting of Tandy? If it were there, one would think other visitors who wrote afterwards would have remarked on it.
I don't think it happened (that Hitler was in the cross-hairs of Private Tandey). But I do think that Hitler unconsciously imagined the story once the painting was shown to him by his medical doctor. Dr. Mark Felton also has a segment on this story.
Really , the Army was the only way out for some people ,my Grandfather being one of them . He served in Egypt in the 30s and said it was a good decision on his part .
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Ah, Chris old bean, ya scupped my hopeful chance of getting a John Wayne movie seen for the first time ever before it expires from Amazon Video availability tonight (luckily I do have the DVD anyway, so ain't no big deal), hahaha, with this update. But am glad ya did actually in the end, cos WOW, Henry Tandey, who's soldiering career of the Great War/World War I went from pretty uneventful and dull, with no big promotions or medals, to soaring up BIG time in September of 1918 with the particular acts of truly heroic medals worthy bravery you said of, and then Herr Hitler himself had the absolute NERVE to claim what he did using Tandey as the source, all of which I suspect and would preferably love to go with as being nothing but total lies, considering JUST what Hitler is to us all, one of history's most evilest, THE most evilest really, men ever... I'd certainly be up for that little 'What if...' moment Tandey remarked after the bombing of his home area of London during the Blitz, what if he HAD killed Hitler after all, and probably gone down as the man who could very well have prevented WWII itself from EVER happening, ya never know and we'll certainly never know anyway, haha.
Seriously, just HOW do you constantly keep this continuous wowing and awe deliverance up every single week, Chris old bean, your channel really is hands down one of the BEST EVER for British military history regarding wars and conflicts and stories of particular single individuals from wherever whenever, if you hadn't posted last year's Dad's Army video about old Lance Corporal Jones...
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Yeah sounds like a british newspaper story.
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8:36 If you look at 22 Cope Street on Google Maps, it’s now Coventry University. An ugly 1960s building. No sign of a memorial to Henry Tandey VC
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Sad that he’s not remembered there
The biggest question for me is why he remained a Private. He should have been promoted after being mentioned in dispatches, and certainly after receiving the DCM. Yet there he is leading groups of men as only a private, this is bizarre, by now he should have been a sergeant. That he was leading these small assault groups shows that he had leadership skills, so that is not a block to promotion. He should have been promoted after winning the VC, yet he left the Army still a Private ?
I have read that when he was promoted to Lance Corporal he asked to go back to private. Maybe he is one of those men who never seeks glory or promotions. They do exist.
@@TheHistoryChap Sounds right. There was a man in my regiment who served the full 22 as a Trooper, but could have easily made WO2 if he accepted promotion. Still a bit odd that Tandey accepted taking command of these small groups without taking the rank needed, it's no different to being paid the wage of a sales clerk while actually doing the job of manager.
It could have happened as Tandey had penchant for sparing enemy soldiers lives as for hitler remembering him after getting the painting is dubious although hitler could have been involved in such an incident.
Ah, this guy. The "super soldier" story.
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I grew up in Leamington spa. Went back there recently and it looked like a foreign country
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It's probably true, if it isn't then most likely a case of mistaken identity. Hitler had an extraordinary war record in a sense, going through the war in an extremely dangerous role in the midst of what was already very heavy losses to the larger formations he was part of. He was noted for exceptional bravery, both during the war, and in the brawling and street fighting of the political climate after it. Like Mussolini he was not the type to lie (mussolini's memoirs are not flattering, though he is proud and boastful throughout confessions such as being a r*pist and once attacking some English ladies in Switzerland and stealing their picnic) but unlike him he was wise enough to omit certain things, it is only recently that historians have discovered that he was almost certainly on the communist side of the political chaos in Bavaria just after the war.
I other words unlike several of those around him he was not the type to make stuff up, he was a true believer of his ideology, straightforward in his public persona and secretive in his personal life. We know a good bit about him due to the level of focus and interest by historians, many elements that might seem stilted have the complaints and powerplays within the party contextualing them with plenty of notes, diaries and paperwork surviving and showing that a considerable apparatuses of backbiting and power balances was set up around a man who liked to rant at his staff about politics inbetween falling asleep in his chair (and held in common with Stalin a love for American westerns). So we have a fairly good idea of his character, remarkable in some way, unremarkable in others, and notorious as a bit of a bore.
It's a bit like when Putin mentioned going on special operations during his time in the KGB, and the media scrambled because that wasn't in his public record. Hitler probably had enough war stories to bore an archivist (certainly enough for people to give up noting all of them down), he certainly preferred the company of comrades from those times (often to the annoyance of Himmler). Knowing the media parts of the story actually happened and they just made up the bits they couldn't find out. They've still quite like that now, but at the time it is very common that rather than keep a story from print to confirm the matter they would just write something that couldn't get them in legal trouble ('he phoned but the kid of a relative answered ') rather than investigate properly or take an interest in anything boring or mundane.
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I rather think I agree with you that it probably didn't happen, however, that doesn't mean that Hitler didn't convince himself that it had. Especially since Tandey was not an aristocrat or officer. If Hitler must admit to having been shown mercy on the battlefield, I am sure he found it very convenient to believe and tell others that the soldier who spared him was himself touched by "Providence". And perhaps, if enough people put the story about, and if Tandey really was in the habit of sparring the life of the odd German soldier, he may have come to believe, or accepted, that one of those German soldiers he chose not to kill really did turn out to have been Hitler... He, which is to say Tandey, probably wouldn't have had access to any information which would have cast doubt on Hitler's story.
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My only question is how did Hitler know tandy's name in the first place? Was his name just linked to the description of the painting?
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Who is in this photo and why are their expressions so different,or is it just me?
There is always some truth in it. It might have not been Tandey but some other soldier who let Hitler go. and Hitler just put a face to the memory when he saw the painting. That how the brain works sometimes.
Interesting thought. As I said in the video, it probably suited Hitler to say that a hero had saved him rather than some average Joe.
Winston Churchill was quoted as saying "the unforgivable sin of Hitlers Germany was to develop an economic system by which the international bankers were deprived of their profits"
Id recommend everyone consider that statement as far as the WWII narrative and all other wars until today
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exactly
ended usury basically slavery free the people from the capitalist system exploiting them how surprised he must of been how British Politian's were bought by the bankers to start yet another war including churchshill another bought man
I enjoyed your story, I have herd it before, but there is no evidence to support or repudiate it, I find that while possible that it is untrue, never the less, its a good story and one for the listener to make up their own mind. Well I will sit on the fence with many doughs to the truth if it.
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Would a soldier have gotten in trouble for not shooting or capturing a wounded enemy soldier?
Maybe for not capturing since you can get information off them, especially a runner, but I’m sure they would ignore a little war crime here and there
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I think Hitler did tell Chamberlain that story but the story was false. Hitler was not an ordinary runner, one assigned to someone right at the front like a company commander but a regimental runner, taking messages to battalion headquarters, to division headquarters or perhaps to a neighboring regimental headquarters. Not likely to have a close encounter with enemy infantry. Mainly endangered by artillery which did cause minor wounds to Hitler from time to time.
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as old green Howard my self once a Howard always a Howard XlX this story has always got me thinking I know that the regiment had two of the pictures why was one meant for some one else but never never given to them
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@@TheHistoryChap get you thinking don't it just
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I bet he would be disgusted at the state of the country today
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Hitler stole his iron cross story from his favorite western writer
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It is well known that Hitler changed events, if benefitting his ego. I can highly recommend Joakim Fest's "Hitler".
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Served his country in two wars…!
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Regardless both were exceptional soldiers in ww1 only fitting they should have a story happened or not it would be far from the only made up story and theres no malice to this 1 seems more a way of showing respect
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The truth may be like the unknown warrior some now long dead ordinary soldier simply let the begging Hitler live and it may or may not have been Tandy VC but these things do happen and it’s just conjecture as to if or who and when but imagine if those killed there may have been a worse German who could have been a less flawed individual who would have done far more evil so we may have been lucky to have ended up with the funny looking oddball Hitler and his lack of military strategy and belief in destiny.alls well that ends well.
I agree with the point that if Hitler had been killed in WW1 then some other person would have taken his place.
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Not true
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It is untrue. No working class British family on low wages would possess a telephone in the late 1930s. This was almost unheard of. If this part of the story is untrue, then any credibility is lost and the whole story is a fabrication. The comment made by Tandy years later was simply a joking aside made to a reporter. It was not a statement of fact.
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So basically there is no evidence for any of this, so even title is misleading?
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@@TheHistoryChap I am guessing that Hitler told the story in German or did he speak in English to the then British PM
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It seems strange that someone who was singled out by the military for his bravery remained a private. Does anyone know why he was never promoted?
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Did not happen.
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