Huge Garten Of Banban Drama

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  • @PyrocynicalVEVO
    @PyrocynicalVEVO  ปีที่แล้ว +3715

    Just a small update, the art at the start and compilation of assets weren't meant to attack the game. More just give the devs constructive criticism so they can improve the game. Obviously doesn't go for review bombs / people refunding.

    • @bloxxer420
      @bloxxer420 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      hai!!!

    • @hommemerde
      @hommemerde ปีที่แล้ว +9

      dude, I need some ID on that hoodie you got

    • @hommemerde
      @hommemerde ปีที่แล้ว +3

      please, brother

    • @sticklyboi
      @sticklyboi ปีที่แล้ว

      チ឴ン឴ポ឴を឴マ឴ン឴コに入れたい

    • @guythatlovespotato
      @guythatlovespotato ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for another *HUGE DRAMA* vid, Pyro.

  • @wormzx0
    @wormzx0 ปีที่แล้ว +5414

    Garten of banban feels like a game based on the sketches you would find in a fnaf fan's math notebook.

    • @Not_a_bot-
      @Not_a_bot- ปีที่แล้ว +195

      As a fnaf fan I can confirm that statement.

    • @NishikiyamaPS2
      @NishikiyamaPS2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Funny considering i have a friend who is a fnaf fan,he literally all the time draws golden Freddy,or at least tries to.

    • @ts4858
      @ts4858 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      that game would actually have an ounce of passion so no

    • @Ze_eT
      @Ze_eT ปีที่แล้ว +96

      "Fan" implies there is passion behind it, something which from what I can tell is completely lacking in Banban (unless you count passion for money, which there probably is more than enough of). And honestly, you underestimate FNaF fans.

    • @nitrokii
      @nitrokii ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I just got flashbacks

  • @whoami784
    @whoami784 ปีที่แล้ว +9647

    You know you failed as a horror game when even Pyro doesn't get scared let alone unclip a part of his headphone. Pyro is like the tutorial for a horror game to successfully scare people while Moistcritikal is like the final boss. What's even the point of a horror game if the TV Furry man can't even get scared

    • @metformin3154
      @metformin3154 ปีที่แล้ว +363

      except as pyro said, games stop being scary if you unclip part of the headphone, whereas moistcritikal only ever plays with one earbud in.

    • @nicknick493
      @nicknick493 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      @@metformin3154 yeah but tbf earbuds can be pretty loud

    • @Owch-
      @Owch- ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@metformin3154 wait really? i thought charlie played them with headphones on, never noticed it ig

    • @warwolffritz8385
      @warwolffritz8385 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is so true

    • @DrifterHusk
      @DrifterHusk ปีที่แล้ว +44

      The finale boss of a horror game Is my father

  • @jakeplaysyt8000
    @jakeplaysyt8000 ปีที่แล้ว +1495

    The best possible path forward for the Garten of Banban team is to play on how bad it is. Really lean into to ironic humor aspect and turn that weakness into a strength. Scenes like Banban(Woman) being flattened into a PNG before being yoinked into the ceiling were hilarious and I’d absolutely play the third game if they had more of that.

    • @chucklebutt4470
      @chucklebutt4470 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      Totally, they've hit the jackpot by having so many eyes on their game, good or bad. They're in a great position to capitalize on it.

    • @malicioususer1837
      @malicioususer1837 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      Yeah, It's got a similar vibe to Baldi's basics. A game so janky and unusual, but unlike Banban the difference is it's self aware and deliberately plays into the irony. It's funny but at the same time the empty nature of the game and its lack of polish captures a unique vive and makes aspects of it unexpectedly disturbing.

    • @themustardman219
      @themustardman219 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@malicioususer1837 and baldi actually slightly does its job as a horror game

    • @giboi03
      @giboi03 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I honestly thought it was a self-aware game in the beginning, seeing how awful it was gameplay-wise UNTIL THE BIRD. Like many of the comments here are saying, I felt viscerally disturbed by Opila bird in the same way Baldi did. It was a shame that most people looked over its uniqueness as an enemy ai (and also the footsteps coming up the wall suggesting its relentlessness)

    • @strange17
      @strange17 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      A lot of people thought it was meant to be satire, they could've just pretended that was their intention

  • @theotv5522
    @theotv5522 ปีที่แล้ว +3970

    People need to separate the art from the artist. Sending death threats and doxxing devs just because you don't like their game is borderline targeted harassment no matter how much you sugarcoat it.I do hope the brothers learn from this and make better games. Remember, even Scott, the FNAF dev was criticized too, but he learned and then move on to make FNAF.

    • @twister107
      @twister107 ปีที่แล้ว +230

      Until someone dug their nose into his business and doxxed him because politics are a thing.

    • @MrPanGonzo
      @MrPanGonzo ปีที่แล้ว +424

      @@twister107 which was the biggest example of the insanity of people...

    • @offbrandbiscuit
      @offbrandbiscuit ปีที่แล้ว +179

      Scott didn't even learn from his criticism, he just took what people said and made it. People said the characters in his Christian games looked like creepy animatronic mascots and decided he'd just make one last game about that, and then it popped off

    • @grogcito
      @grogcito ปีที่แล้ว +390

      it's not borderline, it's criminal behavior. First world people really have nothing going on with their lives to gang up on a shitty game that much. Specially when there's a myriad of shitty games on steam

    • @haydenhayden
      @haydenhayden ปีที่แล้ว +181

      It’s not even separating art from artist, it’s just not being a completely terrible person.

  • @reginaphalange305
    @reginaphalange305 ปีที่แล้ว +6710

    So proud of Pyro for rearranging the words in “Huge Garten of Banban drama” to “The Garten of Banban drama is insane”
    Edit: you’ve got to be fucking kidding me

    • @soup985
      @soup985 ปีที่แล้ว +611

      "Garten Of Bannan Drama Is Huge" Is way better, I love kids

    • @monsterenergypickles7434
      @monsterenergypickles7434 ปีที่แล้ว +375

      ​@@soup985 YOU WHAT??

    • @Heretic_real
      @Heretic_real ปีที่แล้ว +45

      He gotta stop using huge man

    • @michealadebz
      @michealadebz ปีที่แล้ว +266

      @uwumeowmeow😘😘 I’m glad your respecting his 500+ genders

    • @Haispawner
      @Haispawner ปีที่แล้ว +301

      @uwumeowmeow😘😘 I dunno man isn't they/them already an established gender neutral?
      Gendered pronouns are stupid to begin with, Finnish did this so much better.

  • @KylarTyphlosion
    @KylarTyphlosion ปีที่แล้ว +1781

    Bruh pyro is top tier voice actor. How can we forget the oscar worthy "THE ALIENS ARE COMING"

    • @Krullest
      @Krullest ปีที่แล้ว +140

      and "WE'VE BEEN COMPRAMISED"

    • @honse6794
      @honse6794 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      Don't forget "OH COLONEL WE ARE SO FUCKED"

    • @YouShouldKeepYourselfSafe
      @YouShouldKeepYourselfSafe ปีที่แล้ว +25

      What about "Hello Captain!"

    • @izzulazrizal702
      @izzulazrizal702 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      SPIT IT OUT CORPORAL

    • @exudeku
      @exudeku ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ITS GAME OVER MAN

  • @MillzyXVI
    @MillzyXVI ปีที่แล้ว +2860

    respect to pyro for covering such a mature topic in exactly 8 mins

    • @spicy1615
      @spicy1615 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Pyro doesn't like things mature

    • @soroushkowsarian3364
      @soroushkowsarian3364 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@spicy1615 ay yooo

    • @gmodify9568
      @gmodify9568 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      respect for having a green day profile pic

    • @cooliostarstache5474
      @cooliostarstache5474 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@spicy1615 💀

    • @GeezSus
      @GeezSus ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@spicy1615 don't lmao

  • @coolbunny
    @coolbunny ปีที่แล้ว +251

    I think the real problem is that the devs can't take criticism. No matter what you say, they're not gonna listen, or worse, treat you as a villain. There was no hope for improvement in the first place, which probably explains why people are completely dunking on them. What else can they do? It's not like they'll actually *learn* from it.
    Then again, the amount of hate was too much...

    • @xddude
      @xddude ปีที่แล้ว +16

      People aren't entitled to the devs accepting their criticisms. I think it takes a narcissistic type of person to think like that which Twitter does have a lot of.

    • @MeemahSN
      @MeemahSN ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@xddude People are not entitled to have their criticism heard, but if the devs want people to like their game, they need to make a game people will LIKE. That means listening to criticism and adapting accordingly.

    • @EighmyLupin
      @EighmyLupin ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I mean 99% of the "threats" they are running away from Twitter from are just pointing out the game sucks.

    • @cryppi1510
      @cryppi1510 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean, imagine for a second you release a drawing of a fan character you like. You get pinged twice every minute, someone trashing your drawing. You've gotten the point after the first three people told you your drawing is bad.
      Now imagine you have a thousand people telling you that your drawing is bad. You can be making breakfast, you're getting coffee, you check your email- it's the same thing. Someone shitting on your drawing.
      I'd delete my Twitter too.

    • @Pulstar232
      @Pulstar232 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@cryppi1510 I mean twitter is a cesspool in general, so it's not that big of a surprise. that aside, from what I usually see(so it's not exactly representative of anything), people who have 'bad drawings' do get criticism but if they accept the criticism others will tweet resources(websites, videos, etc) to help them get better. but if they respond badly they get dunked on. that's just personal anecdotes, though.

  • @WitheredDayZz
    @WitheredDayZz ปีที่แล้ว +411

    Trolling them is fine but straight up harassing them is too far

    • @unclebaba3463
      @unclebaba3463 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Depends on what we define as harassment

    • @xacmashe3852
      @xacmashe3852 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@unclebaba3463 I agree but I have no issues believing they were harassed. The issue is HOW much harassment? I highly doubt there was a lot.

    • @Sunny-hm7ui
      @Sunny-hm7ui ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@xacmashe3852 He said they were doxxed.

    • @theatomic_gen
      @theatomic_gen ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Sunny-hm7ui That's actually messed up. People are even calling them babies even though all they pointed out was that all the "constructive criticism" was just straight up bullying. I honestly feel terrible for them, and people are making fun of the fact that a fan made game made in a week is better even though the person behind the remake had artist, modelers, music/sound designers helping them, an already pre made story, and a pretty good idea of a map. People are comparing 2 people who have to actually plan things out(even though the game is bad) to somebody who had to use tutorials, and learn the simplest things.

    • @Sunny-hm7ui
      @Sunny-hm7ui ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@theatomic_genThere are millions of other bad indie games out there, but this one got unlucky and got popular so they are picking ONLY on this game and not the other horrible ones. I’ve went on Twitter and still believe Twitter people are dumb because in the posts that they said they were doxxed, the replies were all like: “Yeah, you’re just over exaggerating to make people feel sorry for you. Doesn’t change how we still think you’re making these games just for money! I am not going to help you with this problem because you need to learn how to make better games”. Even all the nice replies hoping that they can resolve the problem get TRASHED on by other people saying that they deserve it. People NEED to learn that The Euphoric Brothers need to survive too! They said that they’re working jobs AND in school. I believe them because they need more supporters than haters due to the amount of other games that suck. Sorry, I went on a little rampant there, I just got frustrated on how people are oblivious to other games that suck.

  • @AlexOlinkiewicz
    @AlexOlinkiewicz ปีที่แล้ว +954

    Speaking as a single Indie Developer, part of me can't blame the developers for trying to make a Mascot Horror game. From my experience I have developed a couple of games that while have gotten a few Let's Plays here and there, and even gotten so many people saying they really love my games and like to see expand on them more. Issue is despite how good my games that others claim, they barely get much attention I need to really put any focus on developing. And that is an issue that a lot of developers face, if your game does not fallow a current popular trend it is gonna not get much attention, so for many devs and even ones trying to start out they are gonna just try and fallow the trend and many won't really try to see if they can be creative with their concept cause trends do die out pretty fast, so if you don't release the game soon then it miss the opportunity to get grabbed.

    • @Spoopy_man
      @Spoopy_man ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I wish you success man.

    • @AlexOlinkiewicz
      @AlexOlinkiewicz ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@Spoopy_man thanks

    • @damienearl8302
      @damienearl8302 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think the only issue is that it has...pretty much nothing else-

    • @kolbayada4938
      @kolbayada4938 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      This doesn't really apply to them tho. The entire thing was made in order to generate as much traction as quickly as possible. It gives major "I did it for money" vibes. It doesn't help that the 2nd chapter is a mess from top to bottom. It's a poorly optimized game with a poor quality designs, passable at best VA that is filled with lazily designed puzzles and tries to waste as much time as possible in order to dodge possible refund and/or make an impression that the game is filled with content.

    • @AlexOlinkiewicz
      @AlexOlinkiewicz ปีที่แล้ว +72

      ​@@kolbayada4938 It kind of does really, like I do agree lots of this game really feels lazy and in many cases the game lacks any soul to it. But again what got them here still might be do to the issues most indie devs like myself face. Looking at the devs other games before BanBan they did seem to have actually tried to make some interesting games, but seems like they suffer the issue of not getting any attention on what they made, so they just threw up their hands and say F-it and just make a quick Mascot Horror game in hopes that somehow it gets caught in the trend. I don't agree with the direction they took and how they are doing it, but at the same time I can't blame them on why they ended up taking this path.

  • @bennycaustic5102
    @bennycaustic5102 ปีที่แล้ว +563

    Garten of BanBan looks like it was created in one of those 24 hour game creation competitions game devs do.

    • @nicholasbuffone175
      @nicholasbuffone175 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      You joke, but that sort of contest is what gave us Baldi's Basics (which, regardless of your opinion of it, is probably a more cohesive experience than Garten).

    • @willyiam2169
      @willyiam2169 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      You mean game jams?

    • @thebushbros6626
      @thebushbros6626 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub It definitely isn’t the case

    • @Cunny_Lord
      @Cunny_Lord ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub no they only made 2d games back then. While yes they are new to 3d games, they aren't immune to criticism as it's obvious this change of direction is to cash grab.

    • @Alzarath
      @Alzarath ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub If people are being awful, how about they back off and realize how awful they're being without needing excuses?

  • @thebyte0f879
    @thebyte0f879 ปีที่แล้ว +541

    i strongly believe that no one should be harrassed or doxxed on the internet, including the 2 brothers. Not only is it morally wrong, but it also does nothing to solve the problem. as pyro said, "there's a thousand mascot games every second, ban ban is just the only one unfortunate to get popular." There are hundreds of other mascot horror games, all equally worthy of the same criticisms, so why specifically harass 2 devs?
    ...BUT, at the same time i still believe that they deserved to be criticized for their character and behavior as devs. They have shown themselves to be extremely avoidant of criticism pointed at their game, and they literally had a merch store the second they could get the chance, with the merch quality being... questionable at best, and this to me seems ignorant at best, to greedy at worst. so no, i don't think the devs deserve to be harassed, including their families, but their behavior is questionable and deserves to be pointed out to them.

    • @dudeski6548
      @dudeski6548 ปีที่แล้ว

      the 2 devs are babies as well since they demand 5 dollars for a shitty half baked game in which half the assets are taken from a model store and then complain on twitter that people are refunding their game

    • @EighmyLupin
      @EighmyLupin ปีที่แล้ว +23

      They exaggerated the "threats" as an excuse to hide from criticism.
      This is a common tactic for people who create trash.
      (See the actors/directors of the newer SW movies and the idiots responsible for Ring of Power)

    • @justsomeonewithdifferentop7101
      @justsomeonewithdifferentop7101 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They weren't unfortunate for their game getting popular, yes I know, no one should be harrassed or sent death threats. But a majority of people who are critising, harassing them is all because of their attitude and behaviour. It was their doing for making the community mad. If it was another game, with developers more mature and willing to improve, I'm sure lesser death threats would be seen.

    • @markieuzumaki7056
      @markieuzumaki7056 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@EighmyLupin bro im convinced you just want someone to hate its not that serious get help

    • @B-Cat100
      @B-Cat100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But for the cherry on top they hate on it more because they made a bajillion merch when like it immediately became popular
      And the second one costs money that’s not even worth it

  • @23boo
    @23boo ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I used blender for a class in school- and I’m convinced that the brothers don’t know how blender works and how you’re able to smooth out models. You don’t need 100000 polygons for a single model just to make it smooth 😭

    • @scarlett2521
      @scarlett2521 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LITERALLY, SHADE SMOOTH exists for a REASON!!!

    • @Villager_U
      @Villager_U ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bet they only watch 2 episodes of Blender Guru's donut tutorial and call it a day

  • @CollidedUniverses
    @CollidedUniverses ปีที่แล้ว +22

    3:23 fun fact; that song is made by the Poppy Playtime devs! Another fun fact; the owner of Poppy Playtime said on Twitter that it would be okay to diddle a fictional dead child, because, despite the fact that they’re dead, they are still able to age and would be 18 by now. Final fun fact; the first sign that the creator wanted to diddle the child was subtle, but in 2017, long before the tweet in 2021-2022, meaning that, even if the tweet was correct, the creator was attracted to that child well before she was eighteen, making animations of them in sexual poses in videos targeted toward other kids. Did I mention that he wanted to screw a character from a Minecraft FNaF animation! Because he, indeed, wanted to screw a character from a Minecraft FNaF animation…that he created…as a music video for another creator.

  • @BeddoMakuramaru
    @BeddoMakuramaru ปีที่แล้ว +324

    The worst thing is, the 2nd part of the game did the exactly same plot as Poppy Playtime.
    Female version of the face of the game, plays with you in a way that's supposed to kill you and at the end you run from her and she get's killed by something you triggered.

    • @damienearl8302
      @damienearl8302 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I feel this, but...I'm not sure if Kissy Missy played too major of a role in PP chapter 2-

    • @theneverwatcher9860
      @theneverwatcher9860 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@damienearl8302 You're thinking of the wrong person, they meant Mommy Long Legs

    • @damienearl8302
      @damienearl8302 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@theneverwatcher9860 Oh, I know, I was just joking around

    • @Est.-.
      @Est.-. ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@damienearl8302 heh, you said pp

    • @sharkenjoyer
      @sharkenjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@theneverwatcher9860 I'm not sure if kissy missy counts as the "female version" of huggy wuggy

  • @FunfettiSundae
    @FunfettiSundae ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Hi person who drew the art here!! I never redrew the main menu art to attack anyone. I only redrew it cause my friend Spence (creator of the mod) wanted help with the art assets. I personally have no beef with the Garten of banban devs

    • @FunfettiSundae
      @FunfettiSundae ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Also, thanks for complementing my art. I appreciate it, I suppose :]

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@FunfettiSundae hi there

  • @tajee_y9936
    @tajee_y9936 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    I can’t believe that pyro hates garten of banban only because there weren’t any foxes or animals of that sort running towards him

    • @leeshapon
      @leeshapon ปีที่แล้ว +63

      not enough inflated furry farts for him 😢

    • @mirrorhymn
      @mirrorhymn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      not enough cubs

    • @funky3846
      @funky3846 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      ​@@mirrorhymn 🤨

    • @VOLATILEVOXELS
      @VOLATILEVOXELS ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@mirrorhymn why do you know that terminology?

    • @_Aidelweiss_
      @_Aidelweiss_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@VOLATILEVOXELS wtf does that term even mean bro ?

  • @d00gz_
    @d00gz_ ปีที่แล้ว +244

    Refunding short games is an issue that happens quite a bit. Iron Lung has the same problem which is also priced the same as Garten of BanBan 2 and is about the same runtime (though is actually a good game, unlike the former).
    Maybe having a different policy for especially short games would be beneficial. Maybe a one hour refund time instead of 2 for games that are shorter than 3 hours.

    • @malpheus4299
      @malpheus4299 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      The difference is that the chapter in banban is designed to be just barely over two hours if you don't know what you're doing.

    • @HeavyhandedDame
      @HeavyhandedDame ปีที่แล้ว +78

      This game literally tries to waste as much time as possible. I'll never understand how the main mechanic is a drone that presses giant buttons that you can reach yourself. They don't deserve the hate but the game is bad enough to warrant a refund.

    • @itsjustchelsea838
      @itsjustchelsea838 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@HeavyhandedDame People new after the first free game that Part 2 wouldn't get any better. Best thing people can do is literally just not buy it. Because buying it with the intent to play and refund it is shitty.

    • @xddude
      @xddude ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@malpheus4299 It's not fair to attack people over what is only speculation. Be reasonable.

    • @getscookedcutely
      @getscookedcutely ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@xddude Yeh I like how everyone is assuming the brothers made chapter 2 longer just to pad out time... Liek wasn't everyone saying that part one was too short with no substance? Well they decided to fix that by adding more things for ch 2 and now everyone's saying that they're "padding runtime" like what do you ungrateful gamers want 💀

  • @pepecomputers5312
    @pepecomputers5312 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The reason assets sometimes have so many polygons is actually because they take the asset from the store and don't realize it's meant to be used for photorealistic renders. Then they often will run a filter to lower the quality if the asset is too heavy. That's what happened with the high polygon assets in Yandere Sim too.

  • @gurigura4457
    @gurigura4457 ปีที่แล้ว +692

    I think Steam is pretty lenient with it's refund policy, but devs should know this going in & making a game short enough to get easily refunded (and being bad enough that people are willing to do that) is on them.

    • @UriGerhard
      @UriGerhard ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I think there's a guy on youtube who speedran Sekiro and got a refund

    • @gurigura4457
      @gurigura4457 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      @@UriGerhard If you're good enough to beat it in 2 hours you deserve a refund

    • @minecraftzocker272
      @minecraftzocker272 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Nah, I dont agree. Theres good reasons NOT to stretch a game unnecessarily and sometimes theres just nothing good to add anymore. Steam policy should be less than X% of a completed (main) game and not just less than two hrs.

    • @tomglover98
      @tomglover98 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @Zar Nikolaus II. no man's sky on release had a 2 hour tutorial, it took 4 hours to complete because of crashing & framerate so I couldn't get a refund. I agree with this sentiment

    • @Glacialgaming
      @Glacialgaming ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@minecraftzocker272 nah steam shouldn’t allow the developer to choose the refund time lol for obvious reasons

  • @50dvium47
    @50dvium47 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    1:36 massive jumpscare warning

  • @bobby6220
    @bobby6220 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    thing is: those 2 brothers not only made one of the worst maskot horror ever made, but they also lounched the game with a button for a merch store, so they didn't made a bad game in good fate,
    they made a bad game with the intenton of exploiting kids with less effort as possible

    • @Crygear
      @Crygear ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Tbf that's like the barebones formula of mascot horror

    • @yoga5631
      @yoga5631 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I mean the first game is free and the second game is only 5$, of course they need other way to make revenue

    • @Memorie
      @Memorie ปีที่แล้ว +40

      How else are game devs supposed to make money? Charity?

    • @Villager_U
      @Villager_U ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Memorie the game budget is probably like $10 at max

    • @theghost00
      @theghost00 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      That Poppy game was even worse. “Lore” of the game hidden behind a NFT pay wall. Preying on kids with bloody NFTs. 🤦‍♀️

  • @numnuts241
    @numnuts241 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Here's something you should really know about that mod that adds that Kermit song.
    You see, the developers of Poppy Playtime, the game with that tall blue guy, have an animation studio. They specialize in Minecraft animations using characters from internet trends such as Among Us, Friday Night Funkin, pretty much every indie horror game, etc.
    The song is from one of their videos, Poppy Playtime vs Garten of Banban. It's a song sung by Jumbo Josh to Huggy Wuggy, the tall blue guy.
    That's right, the people who made the song about how bad indie horror has become is made by the same people behind one of the biggest indie horror games at the moment.
    The "Bruh" sound effect is also from that same video.
    I highly recommend looking into Mob Entertainment and ZAMination. It's a wild rabbit hole. It's almost Elsagate tier.

  • @TheMartyandy
    @TheMartyandy ปีที่แล้ว +254

    There is a weird irony in all these creators/streamers hating on the game. They are the reason these mascot horrors get as popular as they do; they are the reason this game got as popular as it did. While this game was obviously a cash grab, that is based on the trends set by indie horror creators/streamers who play and popularise anything they think will make _them_ money. Some of these people have even grown in popularity _because_ of their videos on Garten of Banban.
    It's mostly a bunch of people who upload anything and everything they can to cash in on it complaining that a developer is creating anything and everything they can to cash in on it. No ethical platform whatsoever.

    • @Fanrose2475
      @Fanrose2475 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Content

    • @ezraf.7759
      @ezraf.7759 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      integrity is just a thing of the past

    • @EighmyLupin
      @EighmyLupin ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Uh no you don't get to blame people for pointing out the game is garbage and 99% of the content is made to stretch out the time played over 2 hours.
      It's in no way their fault the devs are soulless money grabbers.
      If you really think the devs are innocent victims maybe you should check out their other games, like the one that makes fun of victims of school shootings

    • @TheMartyandy
      @TheMartyandy ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@EighmyLupin I didn't say the devs were "innocent victims". Stop arguing with straw and give it another go.
      _"99% of the content is made to stretch out the time played over 2 hours"_
      99% of the content is made to cash in on the hate train for the game. As I said at the end, it's mostly "soulless money grabbers" hating on other soulless money grabbers - the latter of which can only exist because the scene, and those who popularise content in the scene, allow them to... because it makes them money.

    • @CrystalRose1111
      @CrystalRose1111 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@EighmyLupin That’s not the point. TH-camrs are the only reason anyone knows about this game. They’re the ones pushing it into the spotlight because it gives them views. If it was that bad you don’t have to play it. Honestly, I think the recent poppy playtime controversy got people triggered at any mascot horror game that came out. Garten of BanBan was just the icing on the cake

  • @xYamakaze
    @xYamakaze ปีที่แล้ว +236

    I can't believe Pyro single-handedly destroyed a fledgling indie videogame studio

    • @10pmmemes88
      @10pmmemes88 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They deserve it. It's an absolutely horrible game

    • @sharkenjoyer
      @sharkenjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@10pmmemes88
      imagine trying to justify doxxing, constant harrassment, and being covered in stigma because "duhh they make bad game so me amgy"

    • @juggernautz6309
      @juggernautz6309 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes

    • @unclebaba3463
      @unclebaba3463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Evelyn phish they were people trying to exploit others for money by abusing a trend, they got burned. Now that there is a example of what can happen it will most likely become a little less likely that it will happen happen again, to sum it up, fuck around and find out.

    • @xacmashe3852
      @xacmashe3852 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharkenjoyer It's not just a bad video game it's lazily made in order to trick impressionable kids who are hyper into mascot horror into buying $60+ hoodies with a small picture of the character the dev imagined and designed in less than a minute. The games have no effort or passion put into them and if you think there is then you don't know what passion for your craft is.
      It's not "duhh they made bad game" it's "they jumped on a bandwagon and put so little effort into their game it's insulting. Not to mention the FREE episode 1 had a merch store of the least creative characters barring LITERAL STICK FIGURES on overpriced clothing. They do not AT ALL deserve to make money off of this product."
      Does it justify being doxxed or harassed? No. It absolutely justifies a stigma. If you put out a bad product it SHOULD be stigmatized as a bad product until it is improved that is how this is SUPPOSED to work. Unfortunately, even before all the harassment, the devs have already proven they are unable to take criticism, but since they got a dozen people being incredibly shitty, now you're willing to excuse all the bullshit Banban devs have done because they got insulted on the fucking internet. It's like a skit out of south park.

  • @fgkolol
    @fgkolol ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Props to pyro for rearranging the words of the title and not repeating the same format for 97 times

    • @HeavyhandedDame
      @HeavyhandedDame ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The algorithm loves it though. That why everyone titles their drama videos this way.

  • @YAH2121
    @YAH2121 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Pyro shamelessly shilling his "Bruh" mod voice acting was really stunning and brave

    • @troin3925
      @troin3925 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was taken from a Zanimations video.

  • @smokebomb024
    @smokebomb024 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    0:33 “I have actually never seen a hate campaign stronger than for Garten of BanBan”
    *cough cough* (Velma show) *cough cough*

    • @S0apy_mizu
      @S0apy_mizu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cough cough ( poppy playtime nfts) cough cough

    • @potatortheomnipotentspud
      @potatortheomnipotentspud ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cough cough Hogwarts Legacy shit show cough cough

  • @MusicDecomposer
    @MusicDecomposer ปีที่แล้ว +41

    One thing I still like about mascot horror is the uncanny valley/liminal space feeling. It's something that the first FNaF game did very well, and then not so much in the later games.
    I think the GoB games do have uncanny character designs, something about that bug-eyed pink bird is kinda creepy. And the rainbow hallways in the 2nd game are good liminal spaces.
    That's just my opinion. There's still a lot of problems with the games so far, but they have potential. Maybe someone could remaster/remake them to fix their jankiness.

  • @daggz
    @daggz ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Hey pyro, I'm the dude who trademarked the name
    I'll be real it was a super spur of the moment decision and I do regret doing it a lot, I thought it would be a funny 2am bit to do but then once I did it the ramifications of my actions kinda started hitting in and I just went into "oh fuck" mode
    definitely a stunt I'll never do again, been a huge fan of your content for 8 years now so it was really jarring to see this, I agree with your take tho and I'll definitely not do something that stupid again for the lolz

    • @egtier4657
      @egtier4657 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hi daggz

    • @kuba_mar
      @kuba_mar ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Imo it wasnt even that bad, like these guys had a merch store and sequels planned from day oneand they havent even trademarked it?

    • @MultiFIREFURY
      @MultiFIREFURY ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@kuba_mar it costs to trademark things. Key word there is costs. These devs don’t have the money to do it. Hence the asset flipping.

    • @getscookedcutely
      @getscookedcutely ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I definitly cringed when I saw the tweet but it's cool you know it was kinda messed up

    • @EighmyLupin
      @EighmyLupin ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@Multi If you can't afford to trademark or even make your own assets then you aren't ready to out your game on steam.

  • @Dominion69420
    @Dominion69420 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    3:30 just to note: that song was made by zaminations (however you spell it) who are owned by the poppy playtime devs so when the poppy playtime devs are saying its gone far enough theres a problem

  • @Rhavir
    @Rhavir ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Pyro calling garten of banban a horror game should be a crime

    • @Allustar
      @Allustar ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That’s what it is. It’s a horror game. It’s a failed horror game though because it’s not scary.

    • @Rhavir
      @Rhavir ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Allustar That is so crazy it’s almost like that is the point of the joke

    • @moltenlord8733
      @moltenlord8733 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Allustar i think it’s a massive troll

    • @Crygear
      @Crygear ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rhavir a joke turns bland once you fuck it up or you fuck it up, your point is dull as the leg of a chair.

    • @Vividlyforgotten
      @Vividlyforgotten ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@moltenlord8733Ai generated character chasing you down is very scary wdym

  • @dona2985
    @dona2985 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    So proud of Pyro for being able to manifest the most garbage comment section ever.

    • @JustDT851
      @JustDT851 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      good demo man pfp.

  • @grubybysior8635
    @grubybysior8635 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is not the first time they "quit" because of public backlash. I call it rebranding. And they definetly didn't make the game by themselves. A lot of people help them make those asset flips, they do the actual work that Faris brothers can't copy. They make you sign a contract that says you won't get anything from them for your work and then they have the audacity to lie and say that their games are free.

  • @adamfenix213
    @adamfenix213 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Pyro not using "huge" and "drama" in a title challenge (impossible)

    • @kirb1430
      @kirb1430 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this channel is only for money, to pay for his expenses and his main channel

    • @exilemorin04
      @exilemorin04 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@kirb1430 still brain rot though , bro can’t last a video without making a video game comparison lol I miss his deep dive videos but gotta wait for that sponsor money. I’m not hating just saying it’s kinda weird he talks about topics and stuff and acts better than thou sometimes when he does this stuff

    • @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
      @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Drama generates attention
      Huge generates inflation fetish

  • @oracuda
    @oracuda ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i can recall a memory of my friend throwing gummy bears into my mouth and me flinching and blocking them with my hand, that is how much of a coward i am, and even then, i still cannot play garten of banban without laughing

  • @bunnerkins
    @bunnerkins ปีที่แล้ว +31

    No jokes, I like that Pyro is setting this example for his community.

  • @FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob
    @FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The fact that the drama lasts longer than both of their games combined is just insane

    • @Wetbread127
      @Wetbread127 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have more than 2 games though

    • @FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob
      @FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wetbread127 I'm talking about the Garten of Bam Bam games

    • @Wetbread127
      @Wetbread127 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob Oh ok

  • @TheDodger11
    @TheDodger11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Indie horror games made by a handful of people have no excuses these days, be it low effort or an asset flip. When you have masterpieces like SIGNALIS, it just shows what you can do if you actually care about your game.

    • @Thisisthegreatestatofalltime
      @Thisisthegreatestatofalltime ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Still doesn’t excuse the harassment. Additionally not every indie game needs to be that level of quality. Obviously devs should try but everyone needs to start somewhere.

    • @TheDodger11
      @TheDodger11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime Of course it doesn't, the harassments and threats to family is wholly and completely unnecassary. Internet echo chambers will always take things too far. Yes everyone starts somewhere, but people can look past a lot of things if they see the game has heart. Asset flips and trend hopping games are made with a quick buck in mind, whereas you can tell when something is a passion project.

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime No it really does

    • @snkybrki
      @snkybrki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@alfalldoot6715 How so?

  • @Cloud-rx8zl
    @Cloud-rx8zl ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I can't believe that Pyro was allowed to preach about his inflation fetish in front of kindergarten students, well done Pyro!

    • @wylderiot
      @wylderiot ปีที่แล้ว

      vile ass comment lmao

    • @xxsegaxx
      @xxsegaxx ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You know,I think these slander comments should be allowed but under Pyro's clickbait thumbnails because seriously,when will he stop doing this?

    • @snkybrki
      @snkybrki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@xxsegaxx Slander?

    • @mouse2621
      @mouse2621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snkybrki i dont get it

    • @snkybrki
      @snkybrki ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mouse2621 Neither do I. Don't see any slander in the above comment.

  • @zhdrums3872
    @zhdrums3872 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    0:22 seconds and Pyro does a breaking bad reference.
    Check back tomorrow to see if he beats his time next video!

  • @bean6803
    @bean6803 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with refunding a game after playing if you played it under two hours and did not enjoy it, no matter how much of it you completed. I agree it’s a little scummy for creators to exploit the game for content and then refund (though it’s worth noting two of the creators they called out either rebought the game or bought more than one copy), but a bad game is a bad game.

  • @Kaybeeguy
    @Kaybeeguy ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think if there is one thing Garten of Banban has taught me about game development, it's not to be lazy to the point where you are not even hiding the fact you are being lazy

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah all the devs should rot in Hell

  • @Neftosklad
    @Neftosklad ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Congrats to pyro for summarizing 2-3 sentences to a 9 minute video

  • @Revvnar
    @Revvnar ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If there was no drama to cover then maybe Pyro would finally make Petscop 2 video

  • @JokerChany
    @JokerChany ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:23 "the aliens are coming we've been compromised. Spit it out corporal! oh colonel we are so fucked."

  • @Idontplaytf2
    @Idontplaytf2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:03 This is the one time Pyro isn't going to talk about the hidden replies.

  • @chillteensie
    @chillteensie ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:35 that sound is from a minecraft animation by the creators of poppy playtime
    the line "im jumbo jush brah" is from that

  • @ChrimsonFoxdon
    @ChrimsonFoxdon ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I feel really bad for the brothers honestly. Not everything you make is going to be a masterpiece, but that doesn’t mean the creators deserve to be harassed over it. I worry that this would also discourage people from making their own games

    • @mcclure3510
      @mcclure3510 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Agreed. The game is schlocky and full of flaws, and the devs are following a terrible game structure at best/blatantly hungry for cash at worst, sure... but the way people have been acting, it's like people think they're personally destroying the entire horror genre. It's been way over the top since day 1 and escalating to death threats and bullying them off the platform comes as no surprise. People are whack. No clue why this jank in particular made everyone blow a fuse, but anyone participating should be ashamed

    • @Sonicphobia0601
      @Sonicphobia0601 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are also talking about the same people who made a school shooter simulator... And they also call refunding the game "a personal attack." They're not good people.

    • @dominicdo9374
      @dominicdo9374 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They call refunding games “scummy” while what’s scummy is that you produce a half-baked potato piece of shit game and expect people to play it for a long time or like to where they don’t refund it. A lot of people gave hate. Also this is labeled as “HORROR”. What kind of horror is this. It’s the kind children’s channels will be milking because this thing is worse than child horror.
      However another thing is scummy is doxxing and leaking someone until they must leave the internet. That shit is fucked up.

    • @Cattermucksplatter
      @Cattermucksplatter ปีที่แล้ว

      They also made a scummy merch store

    • @LunarStarlightsArt
      @LunarStarlightsArt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You people really need to do your research on this. People aren't harrassing them JUST BECAUSE of GoB. There's so much more to it than just that. I'm not saying that what the brothers are receiving is ok (besides criticism) I'm just tired of people thinking that they are only receiving those things because of GoB

  • @PolitanKrip
    @PolitanKrip ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Combining Pyrocinical, Pyro, Drama and Huge is not the best combination of words

  • @Deagle2751
    @Deagle2751 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    4:18
    Pyro you're literally blind they removed the brand.

  • @conorfromouterspace
    @conorfromouterspace ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2:55 bro just discovered fucking caricature 😭

  • @MTB396
    @MTB396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This situation feels like another Yandere Simulator drama.
    Except the devs gets blamed for rushing out games, instead of keeping it in development with barely any progress.

  • @bapqapz
    @bapqapz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My ideas to save garten of banban:
    1. Fix some textures, lighting, and other stuff. Make stuff not look so smooth. Like the mascots, make them fuzzy like other animatronics. Don't make them look like they were made out of plastic.
    2. Expanding on the horror aspect, mini games and the general game is not enough for a scary game. Add some darkness, make players feel uneasy thinking there could be anything around the corner.
    3., add a schmunguss 🐢
    4. Add some ambience, such as wind whistling through air vents, whispering, maybe even screaming of someone who answered wrong.

    • @mawarumarisa6161
      @mawarumarisa6161 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally someone gave the right advice for the garten of banban

  • @Beethan000
    @Beethan000 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I wonder what has caused pyro to have such a fixation on the word “huge”

  • @gomango99
    @gomango99 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The white woman jumpscare actually got me lol

  • @MegaOverclocked
    @MegaOverclocked ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm pretty mixed on Garten of Banban, but "it's not scary" is something that plagues the entire mascot horror genre. Maybe I just grew out of being a huge pissbaby and finally grew some balls of steel but I don't think the goal of any mascot horror is to be explicitly scary. They know their target audience is kids and tend to keep things very tame. Where they do tend to excel at is in their atmosphere and I feel Garten is no exception; it has a liminal feel and it's low budget helps facilitate that.

    • @fakeorchestra4260
      @fakeorchestra4260 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mascot horror was really never scary.

    • @aubueruser7228
      @aubueruser7228 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fakeorchestra4260 FNAF 4:

    • @felizen
      @felizen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fakeorchestra4260
      FNAF 4

  • @Bunny_Bill
    @Bunny_Bill ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought Garbage of Banana was a weird game to be considered horror, but I had no idea people were being harassed for it

  • @pocketnaut
    @pocketnaut ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yooo foxy pfp reference, makes me feel old. I remember when you just talked over cod gameplay and made videos about leafy

  • @FatDogie
    @FatDogie ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can't believe Pyro playing Garten of BabBan killed the entire game studio.

  • @jstar3382
    @jstar3382 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    6:22 Pyro, you don't have any reason to feel bad about refunding it. You didn't make money off the game, you made money off of your commentary and presentation of it. You probably put more effort into it than they did lmao

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, I'd argue that giving them money will only encourage them to make more and more cashgrab sequels. Thus scamming even more dumb kids.

  • @RandomStuffGaming
    @RandomStuffGaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:51 ME CAMEO 🤤🤤

  • @griffruss
    @griffruss ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I feel bad for the devs they're just tryna make a cool horror game and everyone's shitting all over it

  • @corrupterror404thatonekidt3
    @corrupterror404thatonekidt3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another thing that has a lot of people annoyed is one of the previous games they made called Introvert: A Teenager Simulator. People are angry because of how insensitive it is. Long story short, you are a new kid at Happyville high school, (and you are mute just for the laughs) and you meet a kid who pretty much says: “ If I don’t make 5 friends by the end of the week, I will shoot up the school”. By the way, there is no way to find him 5 friends. There is only one ending.
    Edit: I’m pretty sure that’s why they are being sent death threats. I don’t agree with the death threats, i’m just saying that’s probably why some of them are there.

  • @error_tryagain_4049
    @error_tryagain_4049 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My take on the Garten of Banban stuff is that it's kinda stupid for people to hate on it so much (apparently to the point of harassing the devs).
    Like, sure it follows common mascot horror tropes, but the problem is that there's no incentive to create unique horror games in the first place. If people show themselves willing to play horror games containing the exact same tropes over and over again, regardless of how glitched or buggy it might be (so for example, FnaF Security Breach or Hello Neighbor), and then proceed to not showcase truly unique or interesting horror experiences, then there's no longer a reason to create a horror game that's actually different for once, because it's almost guaranteed to be a failure. On the other hand, creating a horror game with common, overused tropes seems like a great idea, because people are willing to buy and play it.
    Disclaimer: I haven't really played any of these games (mostly because I don't have the means to play them), so I can't really speak on their quality. It's mostly based on what I've seen other people talking about or commenting on.

  • @matheusaugustodasilvasanto3171
    @matheusaugustodasilvasanto3171 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Crazy that Pyro has taken over as the lead director for the development of Garten of Banban Part 3. Best of luck to him, as game development is very hard.

  • @asagothe_fander
    @asagothe_fander ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People are literally accusing her of being a puppy playtime rip off when there is barely any similarities other than heading to an abandoned place and even then Garten of BanBan has a more logical reasoning for you to come then Poppy play time because it’s pretty obvious the note you get in the bigger of these two is a trap meanwhile in BanBan you’re a parent looking for your lost child. Not to mention at first I thought it was basically commenting on how horror games were nowadays which is pretty creative and it’s just amazing even if it is a shit post game.
    Also, if people are really thinking that garten of banban is a puppy playtime clone, then puppy playtime is a clone of five nights at Freddy’s and every single mascot horror game is a copy of one another copying the very first mascot horror game. Their logic makes no sense.

    • @mawarumarisa6161
      @mawarumarisa6161 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, And I'm sure the people who attacked eupharic brother are also mostly puppy playtime fanboys🙄

  • @55minecraft
    @55minecraft ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok the funny thing about that mod that changes the steps and title music? the audio comes from an enchanted mobs video, the people who make poppy
    they had literally made the animation almost like a self aware jab at themselves and other games in the genre

  • @Zyaire286
    @Zyaire286 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I personally didn’t think the Garten of Banban chapter 1 + 2 games were that bad. Not like bad-BAD games that you could find in phone apps or shady websites but bad-yet hilarious games like CDI games. Regardless of what people expectations in video games, they should never result to violence or harassment in any possible way.
    I’m not going to be the person to say that this game have some good traits or whatever, but I rather just share sympathy to a game that tries to be a good game in the end, under the developers intended way.

    • @NicoNicoNessieSub
      @NicoNicoNessieSub ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They feel like projects made by beginner game devs, and i kind of believe they're just teenagers or young kids trying their hand at game development. I could be wrong but part of me wants to believe they aren't being scummy or cheap but instead are just beginners to game dev

    • @bonziboyspy
      @bonziboyspy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub idk how up to date their site is but the older brother says hes a first year college student meaning hes only about 18 and other is younger no idea how younger but the idea of teenagers trying their hand doesn't seem too far off

    • @idontknowwhatmypfpis1918
      @idontknowwhatmypfpis1918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub they've made multiple games in the past, and this ain't even their first 3D game. This is 100% a cash grab and not some new game devs making a shitty game. Is the harassment warranted? No. But that doesn't mean this isn't a bad cash-grabby game

  • @ttmso
    @ttmso ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:11 there's two difference, they removed the paranoic and made it darker

  • @CrazedFloridaMan
    @CrazedFloridaMan ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Pyros dad has finally quit being in jail, truly inspirational

    • @Ronicalter
      @Ronicalter ปีที่แล้ว

      shut up

    • @anthhud
      @anthhud ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True

    • @gugtons7357
      @gugtons7357 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      How do you guys come up with pyro quips 10 secs after a video is published

    • @ExtraQuestionableContent
      @ExtraQuestionableContent ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@gugtons7357 They don't come up with it

    • @AmongusBalls65
      @AmongusBalls65 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

  • @hush6149
    @hush6149 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like Garten of Banban is a game that gets freakier the further you go (like Bendy I guess), which is very evident when you meet Zolphius for the first time and in the third game Tamataki & Chamataki.
    Maybe they’ve been trying or unintentionally lowering our defences with monsters that aren’t very scary early on kinda like FNaF 3 and 4, but I think they’re working their way to a Happy Game kind of horror that I really hope we get to see.
    Regardless of whether or not they’re trying to edge towards unspeakable horrors the games are technically children’s horror games and children do like them, they’re not as scary as Poppy Playtime so it’s nice and beginner friendly… probably won’t stay that way tho… Tamataki & Chamataki even unsettled me a bit.

  • @Ravenkillshot
    @Ravenkillshot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    with so much shit the developers are getting this could either go two ways.
    1. They just leave, never make a game ever again.
    2. Make a comeback and do a top tier indie horror game.

  • @shamtrue
    @shamtrue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't get how people think harassment to the point of fearing for safety is good for anyone in a situation like this, like refund what you want, call them out on what you want, etc., but making them fear for their safety, is just fucked

  • @piranhalettuce
    @piranhalettuce ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite part of Garten of Banban 2 is when Banban said "It's Banbanin' time" and Banban'd all over the place.

  • @Satisfiedpepe
    @Satisfiedpepe ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Can't believe Pyro was able to fit all those bananas inside himself

    • @pandim8035
      @pandim8035 ปีที่แล้ว

      What the actual fuck

    • @sporkyone
      @sporkyone ปีที่แล้ว +4

      garden of bananas

    • @Iloverodents
      @Iloverodents ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ayo?

    • @Astro_Error
      @Astro_Error ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok this too far guys

    • @Ze_eT
      @Ze_eT ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Astro_Error A comment above talks about him preaching his fetish to kindergarten children. You don't know what too far is in this comment section.

  • @HexZ_
    @HexZ_ ปีที่แล้ว +59

    As someone who has a friend who makes games in his spare time, it sucks seeing people being so hard on small devs, especially if it really is just these 2 guys making the game. It takes a lot of time and dedication to make a FUN game longer than 2 hours (the refund timer) if you're working with a small team. A great example is a game a lot of Pyro viewers know about, Cry of Fear. A small team of devs making a ~6 hour game, took them 4 years. Now obviously game development has gotten easier in the 11 years from Cry of Fear, but assuming they made Garten of banban 2 in 4 months, it's sad seeing people attacking how "cheap and lazy everything is"
    Now obviously taking your time in game development is mostly always better. The final product can look better, have more fleshed out ideas, be fun... Taking your time is how art and creativity starts. The devs should obviously take more of their time to make the game fun, and enjoyable, and not make it a slog to play. But game development is incredibly hard. You need so many things to go right so that the game doesn't suck.
    Now asset flipping is a very hot topic debate. One of my favorite games of all time is Phasmophobia. A game that was literally cobbled together with bought assets and player models. It charged $20 for release, and while that game is super enjoyable and has fun gameplay, I do feel people are being a bit harsh on ban ban's development just for having assets from the unity store.
    Now the merch is absolutely 100% free target, please by all means make videos on how scummy that is, but don't attack developers who use purchased assets. They can't design every single coffeemaker, notepad, key, pen, and projector, it's just not feasible for a team of 2 to make a shelf asset for 5 hours when it'll be in the game for like 2 seconds.

    • @getscookedcutely
      @getscookedcutely ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'm not a dev but isn't the asset store in existence for devs to like use them for their games?? I don't understand the stigma behind asset flipping. Sure it comes off a bit lazy, but not everyone is an expert in blender...

    • @fledbeast5783
      @fledbeast5783 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@getscookedcutely i think the issue most people have is that the assets don’t even make sense within the game. In Phasmophobia it all looks fitting, but in here it just seems like a bunch of random objects. Why is there a boat in the play area? Or a ski lift?

    • @unclebaba3463
      @unclebaba3463 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@getscookedcutely because the assets don't look like they belong in this game

    • @unclebaba3463
      @unclebaba3463 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, i think there getting what they deserve, trying to exploit people especially children for profit is wrong, especially if the product is bad

    • @HexZ_
      @HexZ_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@unclebaba3463 ehhhh… 5 dollars…? Like sure, 5 dollars is 5 dollars, it’s still an exchange of money, but like I said before, they still are developing the game, they still are making the game, no matter what you’re opinion OF that game is, they are providing a service at a low cost. It’s a low quality game for a low cost.
      I wouldn’t call it a money laundering scheme, especially considering the literal millions that mobile games rake in just from kids watching their dumbass ads and micro transactions. Even game companies like roblox, a company that doesn’t output games and is literally just a game platform that makes good profits off of robux sales and promotions. I’d say that’s more the bigger issues we should be tackling, not 2 guys just trying to make a game. Sure the merch thing is scummy, but I’m sure they like money, just like any person alive.

  • @goom4689
    @goom4689 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the thumbnail is not clickbait, it is practically guaranteed to be a publicity stunt.

  • @StickFrog
    @StickFrog ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro even forgot what Poppy Playtime is 💀

  • @peachy8238
    @peachy8238 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tbh I think it’s dumb that everyone is criticizing them so much to the point of harassment and basically telling them to quit game making entirely. Not every game made is going to be a winner especially if it’s your first one and people really need to chill when it comes to getting so critical about this type of stuff because it’s just toxic as hell and discourages people to quit what they love. Nobody is good at something when they first try it and nobody seems to understand that now a days. Game development alone is a lot of work and can be very hard and time consuming and anyone who thinks it’s ok to act like that probably doesn’t even understand the time and dedication it takes to even fully develop a game let alone make a sequel to one.

  • @orange_ist
    @orange_ist ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i dont care if its a poppy playtime copy or has to many polygons or has a lot of backlash, its goofy and fun to watch

  • @pianosnake7028
    @pianosnake7028 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Out of all the models to show off, of course Pyro uses “fat Mario model” as an example

  • @PikadaveStudios
    @PikadaveStudios ปีที่แล้ว

    3:28 this is from one of enchantedmob's animations, where huggy got depressed due to the oversaturated market, and jumbo josh sings the song to cheer huggy up
    the "brah" sound effect is another enchantedmob thing regarding jumbo josh, in their animation he constantly says it

  • @4.real_
    @4.real_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Garten of Banban would not have been such a meme without Uhyeah's bird up.

  • @happymoomoocow
    @happymoomoocow ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pyro finally evolved, now it’s “Drama is Huge” instead of “Huge Drama” what amazing titles will his vocabulary come up with next?

    • @realbh4rgav
      @realbh4rgav ปีที่แล้ว

      "The pyrocynical drama is huge" ( Huge furry drama)

  • @epicduck1256
    @epicduck1256 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pyro is such a youtuber tbh

  • @bugonboris6681
    @bugonboris6681 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm no fan of Garten of Banban but it's really stupid and immature to harass and make threats to the creators!

    • @mirrorhymn
      @mirrorhymn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah that was an asshole move

  • @toothpats3
    @toothpats3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horror games need jumpscares to be a horror game yeah? So what if in stinger flynns room it could be pitch dark and the lights of the drone can be used to be a flashlight. So we go in the room and stinger flynn isn’t there. Then at the thing for the keycard we interact it because this time it will turn on all the lights making it brighter. But then we turn to look we see stingers big eye as the jumpscare. He’s a bit smaller, enough for his height to make sense and to fit the room because his original height is bigger than jumbo josh and his head almost touches the ceiling. Unless he can change his height nezuko style, because when we play as him he is smaller than banban. But anyways that’s my idea on a jumpscare :)

  • @nexcipher6229
    @nexcipher6229 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem with Garten of Banban is that it's a shameless cashgrab. It should be Garten of Banban chapter two, not just two. It's barely a game. It's pathetic. They had merch and shit before the game was even out, and as soon as you enter the first game you get a link to their store. It's shameless, truly.
    And there's nothing of substance in it. Poppy Playtime at least has some semblance of a story, something to show and tell kinda. Not very good, but it's something. GoB is just shallow and empty. We should NOT support these devs, to make a message - stop treating gamers as imbeciles, we will NOT accept nor support products of this quality.

  • @catcadev
    @catcadev ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I still can't believe anyone thinks it's scary. I do think the bird staring at you was creepy... As a concept taken out of the "game",put into a scary monster and into a real game.

  • @fellow9939
    @fellow9939 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "you've had five years to find that out" says the person who got mad when keemstar called them a furry, which turned out to be true.

  • @eggistentialcrisis8166
    @eggistentialcrisis8166 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i wanna say from seeing the hate campaigns, the creators made a really really shitty school shooting game that really just made fun of victims and survivors

  • @iWhacko
    @iWhacko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'i dont even remember the name" that is called doing some research....

  • @esecutivechasekatchup1052
    @esecutivechasekatchup1052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it sad that when you say "the one with the tall blue guy," there's like 2 of those.

  • @Sleepless.Ssoul.
    @Sleepless.Ssoul. ปีที่แล้ว +4

    man its so sad that the devs are getting so much hate. yeah the game is far from great (or even good) but they dont deserve to be doxxed or sent death threats. poor dudes.

  • @Tezos1644
    @Tezos1644 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I cannot believe they are gonna release the Garten Of BanBan movie tomorrow. Its insane.

    • @dankultimate3929
      @dankultimate3929 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can't wait for the TV show

    • @Tezos1644
      @Tezos1644 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dankultimate3929 ive heard that vince gilligan will be the director

    • @bonziboyspy
      @bonziboyspy ปีที่แล้ว

      it's true i play the drone we can't wait for you all to see this!!!

    • @theant4184
      @theant4184 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bonziboyspy oh so you're the drone? Seen you on the set, I'm the elevator!

  • @o.v.m._part_1
    @o.v.m._part_1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Garten of Bannan moment

  • @florbo3488
    @florbo3488 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the most apt way i could describe it is that Garten of BanBan is the morbius of video games

  • @s.i.m.poster6823
    @s.i.m.poster6823 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:34 I remember this from a FNAF channel I follow, the song is actually from an animation by the Channel MOB Animations or whatever it's called, which is owned by MOB games of course, the creators of poppy. The video was oddly self aware and was positive to Gartenof Ban Ban, saying that it could be good if they just actually tried .it also brings in Freddy, bendy, and that one weird Roblox character to sing along with Poppy