My daughter has a Renegade and it has been a very pleasant surprise to me. Great little car with a superior 4wd system to other small crossover utes. It is a real hoot to drive, too! (Flame on if you want, I've got 2 built Rubicons.)
I bought the Renegade sport 4x4 22,400 after watching your video where you tested a Subaru that the CVT transmission couldn't perform off road. I love it no regrets. Great in deep snow no more shovelling to get out of my driveway.
I live in ALASKA I put about 25000 miles per year I had a 2018 THAT I just put 46k of some absolutely insane hard ass miles on before I front flipped it. I walked away unscathed &I got amazing milage. I never had a single issue. I just went and got a 2020 altitude with some extra upgrades and in the dead of winter The Jeep RENEGADE is without a doubt one of the most capable vehicles you can own !!!!
I had the renegade for little over 3 years. I had the 1.4 turbo 6speed manual 4x4 and it was a great experience. Mpg it was ok, power it was just fine, but it is very spacious, it handles very well and it does pretty good on snow and it never broke on me. Overall it’s a nice little car, perfect for who lives in the city.
I agree I have a 2015 1.4L turbo. It is peppy for when I needed it. I had a few issues with cheap parts. Once that was corrected the car has run quite well.
Too much plastic, cheap interior, and at the highest trim level it should have just about everything without having to purchase them separately. Aka safety features that are already standard in just about the majority of trim levels in Toyota models.
My 2016 Dawn of Justice edition now has 80,000 kms on it. I've done one big road trip from Nova Scotia to Niagara Falls, Ottawa, and back. The car has never had an issue. No complaints from me. Now if they would bring the new Renegade 4xE to Canada I could trade mine in for the new PHEV Renegade.
Just because it carries the Jeep name, doesn't mean it maintain most of its value. It depreciates really fast. Looks cool, but not worth the price tag. Also, the gas mileage is poor with these. This 4-cylinder should be getting better gas mileage in this day and age
Owned a 2016 Renegade Sport 4x4 with the 1.4 Turbo 6-speed manual. I drove it for 17k trouble free miles and absolutely loved it. Looking back, I wish I would have kept it. Cheers!
I got an 18 Latitude 4WD cheap at the very end of May 19 here in MT (2.4/4WD). It was 30% off MSRP. There IS something that really stands out...particlarly in the Mountains. I'll get to that. I got the Latitude for mileage and to take the load off my Ram that is best off road or pulling the trailer. My Ram 1500 with aftermarket 4WD gets 13 MPG and my wife won't let me drive her Cherokee Trail Hawk Elite. It was a loaded Latitude 31K+ MSRP or relatively stripped Trail Hawk (30K MSRP) for 22K. I have been pleasantly surprised. I was going for mileage and 4WD and these were the best deal around. What surprised me is that this is really fun to drive. It sits higher than others including Subys. It is quick handling and is a great big dog car. They love it. I am getting 24 plus MPG mixed and hit almost 30 on the flat cruising at 80 mph (Montana). I do have to admit that the transmission's quirks are my only criticism. NOW, what makes it competitive? And Stands OUT? IT is the four wheel drive system. For the Mountains, it outshines ALL the other All Wheel Drive systems. And I am surprised FCA/Jeep doesn't tout this a bit more. In pure auto mode it is a front wheel drive and goes into AWD just like a Toyota RAV4 or any other of the AWD variants out there where if something slips, it automatically goes to AWD. In our six months of winter here, something is always slipping. So, it starts out with an equivalent AWD to the others... But, and this is where it is different, if you see changing road conditions like a mile of snow/ice (shade of mountain) then a mile of clean pavement (out of the shade), all you got to do is punch the button and it goes into an "auto" 4WD for more traction. IF, you got snow or slush, you put it in snow mode and you can feel it as it appears to cut out first gear totally and starts with lower torque second. It's kind of sluggish in this mode, but It doesn't spin on the ice on the slight uphill at my mailbox like it does in every other mode. It just sort of oozes onto the road. That is very nice. We just did a trip to Yellowstone and were in the park for three days snow shoeing and X Country skiing and looking and the auto 4WD and Snow mode were amazing. That was the first big test of that with extended use. It gets a major thumbs up for mountain driving in the snow and ice. It's better than the truck that pretty much is four wheel lock or nothing. AND I got 25 mpg on the three hour trip to and from, including the Thule XL sport and Rhino Rack for X Country skis/snowshoes that themselves were virtually unnoticable up there. Not done yet with the four wheel drive system. I travel on National Forest roads a lot. That is dirt for your city dwellers, and the quality of maintenance varies. On some of the roads you can do fifty mph. On others, well, 25 is pushing it. Washboard is always in play as a variable. Well, in going to various places I discovered Sand mode. What is Sand Mode? Well, Sand Mode addresses many of the "quirks" of the transmission. The Cherokee Trail Hawk has a sport mode that I default to when I occasionally get to drive it that addresses the quirks of that platform and makes it quite fun to drive. Well, I think the Sand Mode is the "Jeep" Renegade Easter Egg of the transmission and resembles the Sport mode in the Cherokee but even more so. What it does is raise the RPM's and puts the Renegade right in the powerband when you are driving on Forest Service Roads. You step on the gas it goes fast and none of that trying to figure out what it wants to do like the auto mode. Talk about fun, you can fly and it is easy to find that "place" where you just float above the washboard without losing traction like you do in the truck. It will do a nice controlled slide in and out of a turn. You still have control including improved downhill engine braking and all you gotta do is step on the gas and stay away from the brakes. Awesome. So, I haven't used the Mud setting yet and likely won't...or at least until I lift it an inch or two and put some BF Goodrich KO2's on it but that is another story yet to be told. IF, you live in the Mountains or travel dirt roads, this little thing and I'm not talking a Trail Hawk version either is a little beast. Like I said, I have been very pleasantly surprised and I got all the bells and whistles like an 8.4 inch with Nav, tow package, cold weather package including heated seats/wheel remote start (all needed when it is 41 below like last winter) etc. I am also fortunate I can compare it to a 2019 Cherokee Trail Hawk. That is helpful. Negatives: My only complaint that bugs me is manual downshifting and I don't have the LED headlight system. The Ram is instant on downshifting. The Renegade going down a hill or pass actually seems to speed up before the downshift "catches" and you can use engine braking. Not good, actually a pain. The general complaint about the transmission hunting and searching and figuring out what to do, I believe, is imho an intentional result of FCA trying to maximize MPG's because of CAFE standards. You put the transmission in one of the other modes and it is a different animal entirely. Sand mode is similar to Sport Mode in a Cherokee. Now, I wouldn't drive it 80 MPH in any of the specialized modes and it says don't go over 55 in 4WD anyway, but below that, go for it. Dirt Roads, just default to Sand mode. In the snow and Ice, go snow or even regular one push 4WD. Hey, you live in the city? Get something else with AWD for the few days of "weather" you have. For the mountains get a Jeep with an array of four wheel drive modes for all the stuff I promise you will run into and the fun you can have. You can't go wrong. They don't even sell two wheel drive pick up trucks or Jeeps where I live. Really. Oh, did I say the dogs love it... I go in the truck now and the dogs go to the Renegade and mope when I stuff them in the crew cab. Nuff said...
Yes, Renegade has good combination of 4x4 and awd, true center locker and 2 speed transfer case, I even seen these lifted with slightly bigger wheels much better tires and they crawling small rocks next to Rubicons, so that ofcourse lowers ride quality on road then standard crossovers have, but that's is just how it works with suspension tuned for offroad. If it will not have excessive reliability problems, it might just be pretty good
I have a 2019 renegade and I love it. I always love driving in it. I’m a city driver and pretty much 100% on paved roads so this car is perfect for me. I’ve done a road trip in it and it was great. The camera guy and commentator must be super tall cuz they make the car look so tiny lmaoo. Also just wanna say that you guys bounce commentary off each other very smooth. The flow is nice. 👌🏻
Wait, what? Any car thats used every day for a mail route will break down. I can't tell if this is serious or not. Hope not, otherwise mom needs to do a little better job teaching her kids about basic facts of life... Drive car every day all day, its gonna "break down". lol. Duh.
I had a 17 renegade and I got rid of it after 6 months. The 9 speed is so sluggish and for such a small suv it’s horrible on gas! They have to put in a bigger gas tank cause 12 gal is just too small. I was filling up every 4-5 days! Plus for what I was paying for I didn’t have any key features other than push start and blue tooth🤦♂️🤷♂️.
And that was just regular driving around town. Hey mpg was decent, but if you just drive an average 10-20 miles around town then it just completely sucks
My wife has a 2012 Nissan Cube and me being a Jeep fan, I've always thought one of these would be perfect. She is almost 6 ft tall so the Cube is a perfect small car for head room and this looks like it would be perfect when it comes time for a replacement. Cheers!
These are great in the snow. To a Jeep purist it is not a real Jeep, but it's a great alternative to a Subaru for those who hate CVT transmissions with a passion.
Make it two door(for less weight and shorter wheelbase) torquey engine , get rid of the crappy auto 9 speed transmission , heavy duty hardware and a subframe , and that could be a decent competitor for the Suzuki Jimny , in off road capability
4low lock in 1st gear so in 9speed you do same manualy. Thats why 1st is so short. There was and is no Renegade with any low box. That sand, snow and mud not only works on abs, that do work on gears9 aswell.
I live in Florida and I am 65 years old, when ever you feel like it let have a race (Rain, Ice, Gravel or Tarmac). so when you loss you will learn never ever joke about age.
I owned a 2016 Renegade "Dawn of Justice" edition. I hated the 9 speed transmission and after two years, it was traded in for a 2018 Subaru Crosstrek. The Subaru may not be fast, but the all wheel drive is fantastic in the snow. Cheers!
I cannot understand why Jeep cannot get the nine speeder to work properly in this of apparently the Cherokee. Other brands have no such issue. I know because I run a 2015 Honda CRV twin-turbo diesel with it and it is brilliant. Big other users include Mini and Land Rover Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque and they all get praised for the transmission, although very early applications had a software update or two. What is it with Jeep that they can't get it to work as it should?
JOHNJOHN 9111 Don’t be silly. All the ZF nine speed automatics for transverse engines are made in the ZF Grey Court, South Carolina plant in the USA. They export worldwide.
I have both a 2018 crosstrek and 2018 renegade. The wife drives the renegade, but when I get my chance it feels like a sports car compared to the crosstrek...the Subaru is so dam boring and slow, I have the top end crosstrek and love eye sight and the AWD but it’s boring. Hands down the renegade is more fun and has character.
What difference does leasing it make to the running cost/depreciation? None. You pay the depreciation and interest in the monthly lease cost and you end up with zero value to part exchange.
Huw Williams, the only difference between a "balloon payment purchase" (Citibank used to call it Preferred Retail Plan or PRP) and a lease is that you can justify (and qualify for) a lease for the deductions you take at tax time as "a business expense". Otherwise in such a small crossover a lease makes no sense at all (with a relatively high depreciation rate...).
Yours was my favorite comment: Kind but direct. These guys will never grow their channel beyond this if they keep shilling like this. The panel fitment on this reminds me of a Volare from the early 70's.
I had a 2013 Dodge Dart, and it spent more time in the shop in 40K miles than all my other new cars combined with total mileage of about 800K miles. It got totaled at 40K miles, and I test drove the Renegade, but couldn't pull the trigger because it was new and I feared to get another car with tons of problems and got an Impreza. Just this year I gave the Impreza to my daughter and looked at the Renegade again, but got a Crosstrek (PHEV). Other than the CVT, the Crosstrek is a better vehicle in pretty much every category, at least for me, for less money.
I have 2 wranglers...a 2020 Wrangler JLU and a 2013 lifted JK, and I'm currently renting a 2019 Renegade Altitude, and It's actually a great little SUV. While it does not really meet my needs, I still think its a great little crossover and does not look like every other crossover out there. Its has adequate power and gets about 26-27 mpgs. Only thing I noticed is that the 9 speed transmission sometimes hunts for the appropriate gear, but its not really a major issue. I know a few people that have owned Renegades since 2016, and all of them have been happy with the vehicle so far.
The one EASTER EGG no one ever notices - look at the foot rest. It should have a Morse Code running from top down : ... -. --- .-- (snow); -- ..- -.. (mud); ... .- -. -.. (sand); and also, I think - rock. At least I've seen this on 2017 model
@@higg2156 You got me on this one! Now I see - its funny! triple-A morse code! Gotta remember this one! On another note - with renegade you get Jeep design and FIAT quality assembly and parts. So, pick your poison. But I have to say, it is assembled in Italy way better than JGC in US
I just bout a 2019 Renegade Altitude while my 98 Wrangler is down. It’s a fun daily driver. I work for Chrysler, I always call the Renegade the Wranglers quirky little brother.
I had an 18…loved the vehicle overall but the engine burned oil excessively. FCA put it on a program to monitor the problem but when the car ran out of warranty they failed to fix the issue so I sold it at a loss
My favorite is the old cj7's closest thing to jeeps military roots. It's like the H1 of jeeps. Body on frame no frills, big inline 6. Just a rugged lil truck. New jeeps are starting to look like h3's
Seem like a nice little around town and commuter. Having never driven one not sure how it would be on a long drive. Thanks for sharing Roman and Tommy.
My 2019 Cherokee beeps at everything and doesn't tell me what or where to look. Sometimes it picks things up that are nowhere near me and yet people can walk behind me while I'm in reverse and it remains silent.
I have a 2019 Jeep Trailhawk and love the car goes were I want it to and is very comfortable to drive the people that talk bad about them do not own one and have never driven it so they have no ides what they are talking about. It is as good as anything made here in the states all vehicles get bad and good reviews. If your interested in a car go drive it and don't look at the reviews by people that don't own the vehicle.
I’m really conflicted ... I own a 2018 Trailhawk. This thing is loaded ... heated seats & steering wheel, great stereo, sunroof, remote start, excellent gas mileage, runs really well. BUT ... mine is eating oil at a huge pace. None leaking and not smoking, but I put a quart of oil in every 3,000 miles. Also, the remote start is finicky - works fine some times, other times it will shut off when you enter the car. Still under warranty, so I’ll keep working on it. It they can’t figure it out, I’ll move on to something else.
I have a 2015 trailhawk. Great Jeep just not sure how long it will last lol. Nothing like this on the market. I wish they made EVs this size. Instead they make way too big vehicles. This renegade is the right sweet spot for most. I can go to Sams club and Walmart and feed store for big bags of bird seed in one trip. If you must have one of these I highly recommend the trailhawk model. Why the heck not? I see no point in other versions, go trailhawk instead. It’s more for two people than 5. 3 people for sure. I have 30,000 miles on it and so far nothing has happened. I’m still waiting for it to fall apart like most of you people keep saying!!! It’s trash etc etc.
Joel Martinez, there's actually a full EV in this size (doesn't got an AWD option though) in the Kia Soul EV, available in CARB-rules states. There are rumors in the next generation the Soul will get the AWD option...
At 4:08 he is stating that at 6'2 he has ample room but you can see that his knees are not directly behind the driver's seat but straddling the entire seat. I have seen this vehicle and I also wonder if he could have actually closed the back door without destroying his kneecap. Nice car, but I have the Liberty, that they recommended and i believe I have superior rear legroom for someone his size.
@@luchaDor Hi :) The issue is not a comparison between my liberty and this video. It is an issue that as a fan of this channel, that when a presenter states that there is leg room for someone 6'2 and we can clearly see that with the driver's seat in the far back position that it is not, that we the fans should be able to call that evaluation out in a respectful manner.
Just picked up a 2019 Renegade TH at the end of Oct...sticker was $31k, Dealer & FCA rebates had it down to $22,700 as it sat on the lot. I think that makes them a heck of a good deal, and I bought it. No one should be paying sticker on these! They're great for what they are, capable softroaders and daily commuters.
31,000!? Clearly fca is losing there mind if they think this is worth $31,000!? Umm there throw away cars.. Not bulit to last at all.. And thats coming from a mechanic.. I will drive my 04 overland as long as I can... Cuz foe the last 15 years it's been pretty realible.
Translation: "Here's our video so we can write our trip to Florida off" Good overall review video though with the amount of detail, especially the comment about how it feels with 7k miles on it. Most review are brand new cars that are still tight so it's good to seen an impression of how it ages. If it's noticeable at 7k, I'd hate to see what it's like at 50k.
Own both a 2018 crosstrek and 2018 renegade. The crosstrek is nice but boring, eye sight is my favorite feature. The renegade has more power, character and is interesting. The renegade with the 2.4L isn’t bad and would run circles around the Subaru. I also would say never pay sticker for the renegade, they drop in value alittle faster then the Subaru but Jeep is giving really good deals on the renegade.
This time theirs a few things I actually think I agree with Roman on. To much black,and bad placement on the push button. I think they should fix it to where you can use push button if you want,but if for some reason you want to use a key you can. Does the fob have to have a battery in it? Those are the 2 main things right now that I can think of where I agree with Roman. Does anybody know which has the most usable space between this and the Forester?
Just wait until you put a 5000 dollar trans it it!!!😡 total pile of crap never been so disappointed in a vehicle in my life. It’s not a jeep it’s a fiat!!! Never again
TFL...You guys should listen to yourselves... you’re trying to find nice things to say but you can’t. It’s a Fiat 500 rolling pile of junk. With an Italian boat anchor for an engine and a German junk ZF 9 speed that has been a headache from the word go. To say it scores highly and competes with a Honda HRV is hilarious on its face. Hey Roman--Jeep Renegade doesn’t hold its value because everyone knows it’s a Fiat 500 with a Jeep emblem glued to it. NOT because the build a lot of them. Fiat bought Chrysler so they could legally pimp out the Jeep nameplate and pass off their overpriced plastic low quality cars. Informed Americans are too smart for that game. Fiat will leave America next year and hide behind the Jeep brand till they ruin and milk that nameplate to death. Otherwise, I liked the video. Very funny stuff.
We had one for a while and it was great. No problems.. the little engine had a great power. It was comfortable on long trips and got good gas mileage. Not a single complaint No car holds its value from new except the wrangler.. don’t pretend like Americans are smart when they buy brand new cars all the time to take a huge hit in the balls as soon as you drive them off the lot. Smart people buy pre owned lol
I was thinking about the $1595 destination fee, which in itself is exorbitant. But it does come from Italy. By contrast, the Ram 1500, which is built 5 miles from my house, 2 miles from the nearest dealership, has a $1995 destination fee. Let that sink in.
Have one of the first Renegades in Canada. Minor electric issues, but overall alright. Thought I'd enjoy more of the 4WD but I think AWD is good enough for me. Wish they had a better fuel economy though. Definably getting around the same mileage a Cherokee has and worse than a Compass.
I don't know,....I just have a problem with vehicle built or influenced by Fiat. They ( Fiat ) have a reputation for cars that simply,..don't stand up at all. Give me a 1940's/ 1950's era CJ series any day,..now those,.were Jeeps!
Big price tag, depending on features but it costs the same than a VW Polo or Skoda Fabia or a Dacia Duster.... Totally surprised to find that out yesterday. Test drive asap. Looks like you chose the maximum Options and biggest engine, that might be different. The lower or lowest version is a really cool alternative to any compact car, like polo/golf class. Too much black ? I wish the roof was black too, actually sat in a limited version that hat this.
I wouldn't get the limited, buy my sister got a renegade trailhawk in that deep bluish green color. I like it. It's more capable than I expected and the interior is awesome for a compact crossover.
I looked at a 2020 Trailhawk that's the only version I would buy. The 1.3L turbo is fun to drive. They should of just kept the 1.4L and changed out the 9 speed transmission for something alot better.
We own a 2018 Renegade Altitude fwd with the 2.4 and we love ours....It isn't a family car but for a empty nester it is damn near perfect. I test drove the 19 model with the 1.3l granted it was peppy but the deal I got on the 2.4 I couldn't pass up MSRP on our Altitude was in the high $27g but with some wheeling and dealing we got it for under $18g. We choose the Altitude model because it had just about everything the Limited had to offer minus the leather interior. We are averaging 27mpg on the freeway and 22 in the city. Merry Christmas TFL
Notice they bypassed the engine quality or lack thereof. It eats oil, approximately, 1litre/per 1000km after 50,000km of grocery shopping. The trailhawk is garbage too. $38,000 to by new, $16,000 max trade in 3 years later.
Merry Christmas to everyone at TFL, even though Roman and Tommy won't see any true Christmas trees in Florida, but there are plenty back in Denver, CO. Thanks for this buddy review, I would have to agree with the lease it vs. buy it mostly because of the reputation that Fiat Chrysler has for unreliability. As I have stated many times on all your channels, I WANT a Colorado ZR2, but I don't have the money or credit score for it right now and if God forbid my car went down I would almost be forced to look at the subcompact segment of crossovers since I want more ground clearance, and the Renegade in the Trailhawk trim is on my list, along with the Crosstrek and a couple others. Most likely would have to go preowned and look at the bigger brother in the thankfully facelifted bigger brother in the 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk. Which I have seen on Cargurus with less than 30k miles for $24,000 which speaks to the depreciation that many vehicles outside of the Toyota Tacoma and Jeep Wrangler face after driving off the lot. Thanks again for this nice buddy review even though the hula girl didn't make the trip down to where there is actual palm trees. haha
Fiat Panda is a world on its own, especially the original model. Timeless. If someone ever drove a 4x4 Fiat Panda (the original version) knows what I mean...such fun and seriously reliable 4x4. This Renegade is build on the same base of the Fiat 500X with a different exterior, which is nice imo. There are not Jeeps, Fiat and Alfa Romeo like they used to...with all these buying brands, merging brands and so on very few brands stay true to themselves and unique. What a pity...and now the FCA group dealing with Pegeout.... globalization is a cancer.
I don't recommend anyone to buy this car. Had a family friend buy a top spec Renegade. After a year, some personal stuff came up, and she decided to sell it. It lost thousands in depreciation and she couldn't even sell it at C$25000 (it starts at C$28445 without destination, dealer fees, or taxes). There are much better buys, such as a base RAV4 or CX-5. If you want to stay in the same size segment, I've heard a lot of good things from owners of the Hyundai Kona.
Dennis Xu...I agree with the Kona over the Renegade but ! Hyundai would be another big $$$$ loser at trade /sale time. I found that out with my 2019 Santa Fe, SEL. I really like it overall but a $7000. loss on book value trade in one year is hard to take. The 2016 Subaru Outback Prem. model I traded in is now worth more than my 2019 S-F. Basically they cost the same when new.
@@toddrobertson1398 Take note folks, we've got a new Einstein here. Yes, every car loses value off the dealer lot. That's obviously not the point we're talking about right now
I mean that family friend clearly didnt do he/she research ofcourse this thing doesnt holds its value I could have told you that. All cars new you will lose money. Some more than others.
You shouldn't call it "brand new" if its refreshed. Brand new implies completely new design, not more or less identical with different bumpers and powertrain. Shame!
I just got a 2023 Jeep Renegade Latitude, now the entry level.. But with Upland Edition.. Sticker price $31, 095.. I got it for $30k.. So, Got a bit lower than the sticker.
My daughter has a Renegade and it has been a very pleasant surprise to me. Great little car with a superior 4wd system to other small crossover utes. It is a real hoot to drive, too! (Flame on if you want, I've got 2 built Rubicons.)
Thanks for the thoughtful comment!
Also if you want a better driving or more sporty, I have driven fiat and Jeep. Personally I like the fiat more. It’s my cup of tea. But good car
Good to know ,my wife has the patriot she loves, and i was thinking of one for her . Like the 2.4 very much been a good engine for me .
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It’s just a Fiat 500X, far from anything special or nice in any way.
I bought the Renegade sport 4x4 22,400 after watching your video where you tested a Subaru that the CVT transmission couldn't perform off road. I love it no regrets. Great in deep snow no more shovelling to get out of my driveway.
I live in ALASKA I put about 25000 miles per year I had a 2018 THAT I just put 46k of some absolutely insane hard ass miles on before I front flipped it. I walked away unscathed &I got amazing milage. I never had a single issue. I just went and got a 2020 altitude with some extra upgrades and in the dead of winter The Jeep RENEGADE is without a doubt one of the most capable vehicles you can own !!!!
I had the renegade for little over 3 years. I had the 1.4 turbo 6speed manual 4x4 and it was a great experience. Mpg it was ok, power it was just fine, but it is very spacious, it handles very well and it does pretty good on snow and it never broke on me. Overall it’s a nice little car, perfect for who lives in the city.
3 years and never broke? Must be a world record
Tidwell 😉 little tank
I agree I have a 2015 1.4L turbo. It is peppy for when I needed it. I had a few issues with cheap parts. Once that was corrected the car has run quite well.
Still have it? 2024?
My wife wanted a small quirky SUV so we got new loaded 18’ Renegade. After owning it for over a year its still a great little vehicle.
Too much plastic, cheap interior, and at the highest trim level it should have just about everything without having to purchase them separately. Aka safety features that are already standard in just about the majority of trim levels in Toyota models.
Christian Tamme you are funny Toyota is know to be outdated technology wise smh
My 2016 Dawn of Justice edition now has 80,000 kms on it. I've done one big road trip from Nova Scotia to Niagara Falls, Ottawa, and back. The car has never had an issue. No complaints from me. Now if they would bring the new Renegade 4xE to Canada I could trade mine in for the new PHEV Renegade.
Just because it carries the Jeep name, doesn't mean it maintain most of its value. It depreciates really fast. Looks cool, but not worth the price tag. Also, the gas mileage is poor with these. This 4-cylinder should be getting better gas mileage in this day and age
Owned a 2016 Renegade Sport 4x4 with the 1.4 Turbo 6-speed manual. I drove it for 17k trouble free miles and absolutely loved it. Looking back, I wish I would have kept it. Cheers!
I own a Cherokee Trailhawk V6 for 15 month now. Not a single issue to this day. Love the Jeep brand
Just purchased a preowned renegade. Love it. Friend liked it so much he purchased a 2019 renegade. Great little jeep!!!
I got an 18 Latitude 4WD cheap at the very end of May 19 here in MT (2.4/4WD). It was 30% off MSRP. There IS something that really stands out...particlarly in the Mountains. I'll get to that.
I got the Latitude for mileage and to take the load off my Ram that is best off road or pulling the trailer. My Ram 1500 with aftermarket 4WD gets 13 MPG and my wife won't let me drive her Cherokee Trail Hawk Elite. It was a loaded Latitude 31K+ MSRP or relatively stripped Trail Hawk (30K MSRP) for 22K. I have been pleasantly surprised. I was going for mileage and 4WD and these were the best deal around. What surprised me is that this is really fun to drive. It sits higher than others including Subys. It is quick handling and is a great big dog car. They love it. I am getting 24 plus MPG mixed and hit almost 30 on the flat cruising at 80 mph (Montana). I do have to admit that the transmission's quirks are my only criticism.
NOW, what makes it competitive? And Stands OUT? IT is the four wheel drive system. For the Mountains, it outshines ALL the other All Wheel Drive systems. And I am surprised FCA/Jeep doesn't tout this a bit more. In pure auto mode it is a front wheel drive and goes into AWD just like a Toyota RAV4 or any other of the AWD variants out there where if something slips, it automatically goes to AWD. In our six months of winter here, something is always slipping. So, it starts out with an equivalent AWD to the others...
But, and this is where it is different, if you see changing road conditions like a mile of snow/ice (shade of mountain) then a mile of clean pavement (out of the shade), all you got to do is punch the button and it goes into an "auto" 4WD for more traction.
IF, you got snow or slush, you put it in snow mode and you can feel it as it appears to cut out first gear totally and starts with lower torque second. It's kind of sluggish in this mode, but It doesn't spin on the ice on the slight uphill at my mailbox like it does in every other mode. It just sort of oozes onto the road. That is very nice. We just did a trip to Yellowstone and were in the park for three days snow shoeing and X Country skiing and looking and the auto 4WD and Snow mode were amazing. That was the first big test of that with extended use. It gets a major thumbs up for mountain driving in the snow and ice. It's better than the truck that pretty much is four wheel lock or nothing. AND I got 25 mpg on the three hour trip to and from, including the Thule XL sport and Rhino Rack for X Country skis/snowshoes that themselves were virtually unnoticable up there.
Not done yet with the four wheel drive system. I travel on National Forest roads a lot. That is dirt for your city dwellers, and the quality of maintenance varies. On some of the roads you can do fifty mph. On others, well, 25 is pushing it. Washboard is always in play as a variable. Well, in going to various places I discovered Sand mode. What is Sand Mode? Well, Sand Mode addresses many of the "quirks" of the transmission. The Cherokee Trail Hawk has a sport mode that I default to when I occasionally get to drive it that addresses the quirks of that platform and makes it quite fun to drive. Well, I think the Sand Mode is the "Jeep" Renegade Easter Egg of the transmission and resembles the Sport mode in the Cherokee but even more so.
What it does is raise the RPM's and puts the Renegade right in the powerband when you are driving on Forest Service Roads. You step on the gas it goes fast and none of that trying to figure out what it wants to do like the auto mode. Talk about fun, you can fly and it is easy to find that "place" where you just float above the washboard without losing traction like you do in the truck. It will do a nice controlled slide in and out of a turn. You still have control including improved downhill engine braking and all you gotta do is step on the gas and stay away from the brakes. Awesome.
So, I haven't used the Mud setting yet and likely won't...or at least until I lift it an inch or two and put some BF Goodrich KO2's on it but that is another story yet to be told. IF, you live in the Mountains or travel dirt roads, this little thing and I'm not talking a Trail Hawk version either is a little beast. Like I said, I have been very pleasantly surprised and I got all the bells and whistles like an 8.4 inch with Nav, tow package, cold weather package including heated seats/wheel remote start (all needed when it is 41 below like last winter) etc. I am also fortunate I can compare it to a 2019 Cherokee Trail Hawk. That is helpful.
Negatives: My only complaint that bugs me is manual downshifting and I don't have the LED headlight system. The Ram is instant on downshifting. The Renegade going down a hill or pass actually seems to speed up before the downshift "catches" and you can use engine braking. Not good, actually a pain. The general complaint about the transmission hunting and searching and figuring out what to do, I believe, is imho an intentional result of FCA trying to maximize MPG's because of CAFE standards. You put the transmission in one of the other modes and it is a different animal entirely. Sand mode is similar to Sport Mode in a Cherokee. Now, I wouldn't drive it 80 MPH in any of the specialized modes and it says don't go over 55 in 4WD anyway, but below that, go for it. Dirt Roads, just default to Sand mode. In the snow and Ice, go snow or even regular one push 4WD.
Hey, you live in the city? Get something else with AWD for the few days of "weather" you have. For the mountains get a Jeep with an array of four wheel drive modes for all the stuff I promise you will run into and the fun you can have. You can't go wrong. They don't even sell two wheel drive pick up trucks or Jeeps where I live. Really. Oh, did I say the dogs love it... I go in the truck now and the dogs go to the Renegade and mope when I stuff them in the crew cab. Nuff said...
Yes, Renegade has good combination of 4x4 and awd, true center locker and 2 speed transfer case, I even seen these lifted with slightly bigger wheels much better tires and they crawling small rocks next to Rubicons, so that ofcourse lowers ride quality on road then standard crossovers have, but that's is just how it works with suspension tuned for offroad. If it will not have excessive reliability problems, it might just be pretty good
...waiting on the kids to wake up for Christmas, watching TFL! Merry Christmas to you guys!
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I have a 2019 renegade and I love it. I always love driving in it. I’m a city driver and pretty much 100% on paved roads so this car is perfect for me. I’ve done a road trip in it and it was great. The camera guy and commentator must be super tall cuz they make the car look so tiny lmaoo.
Also just wanna say that you guys bounce commentary off each other very smooth. The flow is nice. 👌🏻
I love the Renegade so much, especially the Trailhawk. It's everything I could need or want in a car, and I could actually afford to buy one.
I love my Renegade, but I wouldn’t pay anywhere near 27k and certainly not above that price point.
My mom had one for her mail route it keep breaking down on her she said she will never get a
Jeep unless it’s a Wrangler
Tell her not to bother with the Wrangler. It's made by Fiat too.
Had mine since 2016 no problems it all if you take care of it.
Miguel Ircontar Wrangler is available with right hand drive.
Wait, what? Any car thats used every day for a mail route will break down. I can't tell if this is serious or not. Hope not, otherwise mom needs to do a little better job teaching her kids about basic facts of life... Drive car every day all day, its gonna "break down". lol. Duh.
Tate Dillow unless it’s a Toyota j
Btw, you can get into the settings on the Uconnect and disable the beep with the blind spot monitoring.
Interestingly, they are everywhere in Italy.
I had a 17 renegade and I got rid of it after 6 months. The 9 speed is so sluggish and for such a small suv it’s horrible on gas! They have to put in a bigger gas tank cause 12 gal is just too small. I was filling up every 4-5 days! Plus for what I was paying for I didn’t have any key features other than push start and blue tooth🤦♂️🤷♂️.
Nick Nadeau hummm I think everything you complained about has been addressed...
RCPhotosVideos no. Still the same sluggish nine speed and it went from a 12 gal. Tank to a 12.2 gallon tank...🤦♂️ no noticeable difference
Nick Nadeau what mpg did your renegade get?
jmar28a I’d usually get in the low 21 or under
And that was just regular driving around town. Hey mpg was decent, but if you just drive an average 10-20 miles around town then it just completely sucks
ive had my 2020 renegade latitude since new,no problems only 19007 miles,this old man really enjoys it.
No better way to make your Christmas vacation a tax write off!!
That's the power of being in business for yourself!
My wife has a 2012 Nissan Cube and me being a Jeep fan, I've always thought one of these would be perfect. She is almost 6 ft tall so the Cube is a perfect small car for head room and this looks like it would be perfect when it comes time for a replacement. Cheers!
my thoughts, a friend said i should buy a Nissan Cube and i said thats discontinued for years... and found the Renegade
These are great in the snow. To a Jeep purist it is not a real Jeep, but it's a great alternative to a Subaru for those who hate CVT transmissions with a passion.
Make it two door(for less weight and shorter wheelbase) torquey engine , get rid of the crappy auto 9 speed transmission , heavy duty hardware and a subframe , and that could be a decent competitor for the Suzuki Jimny , in off road capability
You missed 2, the Sasquatch in the back window and around the push button it says “to new adventures!” The Renegade is great, I’ve had 2!
4low lock in 1st gear so in 9speed you do same manualy. Thats why 1st is so short. There was and is no Renegade with any low box. That sand, snow and mud not only works on abs, that do work on gears9 aswell.
Fiat garbage. I had one of these as a rental, and I can say hands down it was the worse vehicle I have ever driven.
I live in Florida and I am 65 years old, when ever you feel like it let have a race (Rain, Ice, Gravel or Tarmac). so when you loss you will learn never ever joke about age.
I owned a 2016 Renegade "Dawn of Justice" edition. I hated the 9 speed transmission and after two years, it was traded in for a 2018 Subaru Crosstrek. The Subaru may not be fast, but the all wheel drive is fantastic in the snow. Cheers!
I cannot understand why Jeep cannot get the nine speeder to work properly in this of apparently the Cherokee. Other brands have no such issue. I know because I run a 2015 Honda CRV twin-turbo diesel with it and it is brilliant. Big other users include Mini and Land Rover Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque and they all get praised for the transmission, although very early applications had a software update or two.
What is it with Jeep that they can't get it to work as it should?
@@hedydd2 jeep 9 speed is Chinese made.. lol...
JOHNJOHN 9111
Don’t be silly. All the ZF nine speed automatics for transverse engines are made in the ZF Grey Court, South Carolina plant in the USA. They export worldwide.
The transmission tuning is much better in the '19 Renegade. Our '17 KL is ok, but the '19 is better and smoother. (Still not perfect though.)
I have both a 2018 crosstrek and 2018 renegade. The wife drives the renegade, but when I get my chance it feels like a sports car compared to the crosstrek...the Subaru is so dam boring and slow, I have the top end crosstrek and love eye sight and the AWD but it’s boring. Hands down the renegade is more fun and has character.
What difference does leasing it make to the running cost/depreciation? None. You pay the depreciation and interest in the monthly lease cost and you end up with zero value to part exchange.
Huw Williams, the only difference between a "balloon payment purchase" (Citibank used to call it Preferred Retail Plan or PRP) and a lease is that you can justify (and qualify for) a lease for the deductions you take at tax time as "a business expense".
Otherwise in such a small crossover a lease makes no sense at all (with a relatively high depreciation rate...).
Merry Christmas TFLnow
I think you’re being kind to keep your relationship with Jeep.
That's what most " reviewers" on youtube are these days...advertisers for companies.
Yours was my favorite comment: Kind but direct. These guys will never grow their channel beyond this if they keep shilling like this. The panel fitment on this reminds me of a Volare from the early 70's.
They are getting paid by jeep to review it... that's called a Sponsored vedio..
Dave Loderhose *you’re
Great video! I just got home from a 10 day vacation on Marco. Love it there! Hope you enjoyed your trip as well.
I had a 2013 Dodge Dart, and it spent more time in the shop in 40K miles than all my other new cars combined with total mileage of about 800K miles.
It got totaled at 40K miles, and I test drove the Renegade, but couldn't pull the trigger because it was new and I feared to get another car with tons of problems and got an Impreza. Just this year I gave the Impreza to my daughter and looked at the Renegade again, but got a Crosstrek (PHEV). Other than the CVT, the Crosstrek is a better vehicle in pretty much every category, at least for me, for less money.
So it's a Bit It. ....used? Actually a pretty good little car. I just wish they made a version with about 3 more inches between rows.
Merry Christmas TFL🎄
I have 2 wranglers...a 2020 Wrangler JLU and a 2013 lifted JK, and I'm currently renting a 2019 Renegade Altitude, and It's actually a great little SUV. While it does not really meet my needs, I still think its a great little crossover and does not look like every other crossover out there. Its has adequate power and gets about 26-27 mpgs. Only thing I noticed is that the 9 speed transmission sometimes hunts for the appropriate gear, but its not really a major issue. I know a few people that have owned Renegades since 2016, and all of them have been happy with the vehicle so far.
You forgot the Sasquatch easter egg on the rear window (embedded in the defroster cables.) I own one of these, and love it.
The one EASTER EGG no one ever notices - look at the foot rest. It should have a Morse Code running from top down : ... -. --- .-- (snow); -- ..- -.. (mud); ... .- -. -.. (sand); and also, I think - rock. At least I've seen this on 2017 model
theodorekell under the hood there is also a Morse code for the number to triple AAA.
@@higg2156 It actually says rocks, rivers, snow, sand on the foot rest. But where under the hood?
theodorekell I’m sorry my friend I was kidding, just poking fun at jeeps “legendary” quality. 🤪
@@higg2156 really good one, lol!
@@higg2156 You got me on this one! Now I see - its funny! triple-A morse code! Gotta remember this one! On another note - with renegade you get Jeep design and FIAT quality assembly and parts. So, pick your poison. But I have to say, it is assembled in Italy way better than JGC in US
Jeep renegade, a car that will never be missed.
The actual Jeep CJ Renegade is pretty awesome though, and very missed.
I just bout a 2019 Renegade Altitude while my 98 Wrangler is down. It’s a fun daily driver. I work for Chrysler, I always call the Renegade the Wranglers quirky little brother.
I had an 18…loved the vehicle overall but the engine burned oil excessively. FCA put it on a program to monitor the problem but when the car ran out of warranty they failed to fix the issue so I sold it at a loss
You forgot the key area Easter egg. "To New Adventures."
I got a 2016 latitude 19k miles for under 15 grand. It’s a neat car to drive
Good looking little Jeep
My favorite is the old cj7's closest thing to jeeps military roots. It's like the H1 of jeeps. Body on frame no frills, big inline 6. Just a rugged lil truck. New jeeps are starting to look like h3's
I love my 2017 Renegade Trailhawk I just bought with 11k miles for $19800
The Levi & Winter Show me too
The Levi & Winter Show so far loving it. Except the flimsy middle cup holders -_-
Seem like a nice little around town and commuter. Having never driven one not sure how it would be on a long drive. Thanks for sharing Roman and Tommy.
You forgot the Sasquatch on the back window by the windshield wiper
I think Suzuki did a better job of designing a Jeep than Jeep did.
So true.
Now if only they would sell the jimny in America :(
So garbage comment. Kia did better Audi than Audi... Bull 💩
It was probably designed by Fiat!
I would buy a new Jimny all day long.
My 2019 Cherokee beeps at everything and doesn't tell me what or where to look. Sometimes it picks things up that are nowhere near me and yet people can walk behind me while I'm in reverse and it remains silent.
Am i the only one that don't care about the plastic in the interior? It seems the only thing that matters in a car according to the reviewers
Forget the Easter eggs does it fall apart in 5 years
I have a 2019 Jeep Trailhawk and love the car goes were I want it to and is very comfortable to drive the people that talk bad about them do not own one and have never driven it so they have no ides what they are talking about. It is as good as anything made here in the states all vehicles get bad and good reviews. If your interested in a car go drive it and don't look at the reviews by people that don't own the vehicle.
I’m really conflicted ... I own a 2018 Trailhawk. This thing is loaded ... heated seats & steering wheel, great stereo, sunroof, remote start, excellent gas mileage, runs really well. BUT ... mine is eating oil at a huge pace. None leaking and not smoking, but I put a quart of oil in every 3,000 miles. Also, the remote start is finicky - works fine some times, other times it will shut off when you enter the car. Still under warranty, so I’ll keep working on it. It they can’t figure it out, I’ll move on to something else.
I have a 2015 trailhawk. Great Jeep just not sure how long it will last lol. Nothing like this on the market. I wish they made EVs this size. Instead they make way too big vehicles. This renegade is the right sweet spot for most. I can go to Sams club and Walmart and feed store for big bags of bird seed in one trip. If you must have one of these I highly recommend the trailhawk model. Why the heck not? I see no point in other versions, go trailhawk instead. It’s more for two people than 5. 3 people for sure. I have 30,000 miles on it and so far nothing has happened. I’m still waiting for it to fall apart like most of you people keep saying!!! It’s trash etc etc.
Joel Martinez, there's actually a full EV in this size (doesn't got an AWD option though) in the Kia Soul EV, available in CARB-rules states.
There are rumors in the next generation the Soul will get the AWD option...
For the Easter Eggs, I believe there is a bigfoot on the rear window.
At 4:08 he is stating that at 6'2 he has ample room but you can see that his knees are not directly behind the driver's seat but straddling the entire seat. I have seen this vehicle and I also wonder if he could have actually closed the back door without destroying his kneecap. Nice car, but I have the Liberty, that they recommended and i believe I have superior rear legroom for someone his size.
Yeah, of course you do, the Liberty is a bigger vehicle.
@@luchaDor Hi :) The issue is not a comparison between my liberty and this video. It is an issue that as a fan of this channel, that when a presenter states that there is leg room for someone 6'2 and we can clearly see that with the driver's seat in the far back position that it is not, that we the fans should be able to call that evaluation out in a respectful manner.
Just picked up a 2019 Renegade TH at the end of Oct...sticker was $31k, Dealer & FCA rebates had it down to $22,700 as it sat on the lot. I think that makes them a heck of a good deal, and I bought it. No one should be paying sticker on these! They're great for what they are, capable softroaders and daily commuters.
31,000!? Clearly fca is losing there mind if they think this is worth $31,000!? Umm there throw away cars.. Not bulit to last at all.. And thats coming from a mechanic.. I will drive my 04 overland as long as I can... Cuz foe the last 15 years it's been pretty realible.
@@bowtech1020 Did you even read the rest? I'd still be driving my Commander but she's rotting away.
Great reviews as always! Guys, could you consider one day to review Renegade 4xe
You missed the big foot climbing a hill hidden on the rear glass
Translation: "Here's our video so we can write our trip to Florida off"
Good overall review video though with the amount of detail, especially the comment about how it feels with 7k miles on it. Most review are brand new cars that are still tight so it's good to seen an impression of how it ages. If it's noticeable at 7k, I'd hate to see what it's like at 50k.
I got a few minutes in and then realized you were just killing time so your trip would be deductible.
Merry Christmas TFL⭐⭐⭐⭐🏁🏁🏁🏁
Thanks for the review I think I’ll buy the Trail hawk
I’ve never seen a privacy cover? Is it new for 2020 or can I get it installed on a 2018
My Jeep dealer service manager advised me to stay away from this and Cherokee until they fix / replace the nine speed.
No problems with my 948te. Also compass has the same and I believe the wk2 has the same
Own both a 2018 crosstrek and 2018 renegade. The crosstrek is nice but boring, eye sight is my favorite feature. The renegade has more power, character and is interesting. The renegade with the 2.4L isn’t bad and would run circles around the Subaru. I also would say never pay sticker for the renegade, they drop in value alittle faster then the Subaru but Jeep is giving really good deals on the renegade.
This time theirs a few things I actually think I agree with Roman on. To much black,and bad placement on the push button. I think they should fix it to where you can use push button if you want,but if for some reason you want to use a key you can. Does the fob have to have a battery in it? Those are the 2 main things right now that I can think of where I agree with Roman. Does anybody know which has the most usable space between this and the Forester?
Did anyone point out Yeti on the back glass?
Just wait until you put a 5000 dollar trans it it!!!😡 total pile of crap never been so disappointed in a vehicle in my life. It’s not a jeep it’s a fiat!!! Never again
whats ur take on the 2019 grand Cherokee summit or the dodge Durango rt iam looking at both right now as a new car
Have a family? Durango...much more interior room.
Why don't they bring the jeep renegade diesel with the stick shift 4X4 in the us
TFL...You guys should listen to yourselves... you’re trying to find nice things to say but you can’t. It’s a Fiat 500 rolling pile of junk. With an Italian boat anchor for an engine and a German junk ZF 9 speed that has been a headache from the word go. To say it scores highly and competes with a Honda HRV is hilarious on its face. Hey Roman--Jeep Renegade doesn’t hold its value because everyone knows it’s a Fiat 500 with a Jeep emblem glued to it. NOT because the build a lot of them. Fiat bought Chrysler so they could legally pimp out the Jeep nameplate and pass off their overpriced plastic low quality cars. Informed Americans are too smart for that game. Fiat will leave America next year and hide behind the Jeep brand till they ruin and milk that nameplate to death. Otherwise, I liked the video. Very funny stuff.
We had one for a while and it was great. No problems.. the little engine had a great power. It was comfortable on long trips and got good gas mileage. Not a single complaint No car holds its value from new except the wrangler.. don’t pretend like Americans are smart when they buy brand new cars all the time to take a huge hit in the balls as soon as you drive them off the lot. Smart people buy pre owned lol
I was thinking about the $1595 destination fee, which in itself is exorbitant.
But it does come from Italy.
By contrast, the Ram 1500, which is built 5 miles from my house, 2 miles from the nearest dealership, has a $1995 destination fee.
Let that sink in.
If I got stuck with that as a rental car I’d be upset 😂
Merry Christmas everyone ✌🏻
I would prefer that to the very noisy and jerky Toyota Rav-4 I just had. It was a terrible car!
I wouldn’t want that either 😂
I would rather walk
It’s a freaking FIAT!
one more reason to buy
Have one of the first Renegades in Canada. Minor electric issues, but overall alright. Thought I'd enjoy more of the 4WD but I think AWD is good enough for me. Wish they had a better fuel economy though. Definably getting around the same mileage a Cherokee has and worse than a Compass.
It's a Fiat 500x redesigned for Jeep
Merry Christmas TFL! 🌲😊👍👍
I don't know,....I just have a problem with vehicle built or influenced by Fiat. They ( Fiat ) have a reputation for cars that simply,..don't stand up at all.
Give me a 1940's/ 1950's era CJ series any day,..now those,.were Jeeps!
Which is false
Big price tag, depending on features but it costs the same than a VW Polo or Skoda Fabia or a Dacia Duster.... Totally surprised to find that out yesterday. Test drive asap.
Looks like you chose the maximum Options and biggest engine, that might be different. The lower or lowest version is a really cool alternative to any compact car, like polo/golf class.
Too much black ? I wish the roof was black too, actually sat in a limited version that hat this.
The car is ok to me but your review is perfect. I wonder if the 500 x feels any different? Keep up the great reviews!
I wouldn't get the limited, buy my sister got a renegade trailhawk in that deep bluish green color. I like it. It's more capable than I expected and the interior is awesome for a compact crossover.
I looked at a 2020 Trailhawk that's the only version I would buy. The 1.3L turbo is fun to drive. They should of just kept the 1.4L and changed out the 9 speed transmission for something alot better.
I think the cameras was just used to Colorado cold cloudy days and it got really confused with a gulf coast Florida sunny day.
Enjoy your sunny Christmas and time with your mom
One of these where I live in Florida is about $20,950 for the limited
We own a 2018 Renegade Altitude fwd with the 2.4 and we love ours....It isn't a family car but for a empty nester it is damn near perfect. I test drove the 19 model with the 1.3l granted it was peppy but the deal I got on the 2.4 I couldn't pass up MSRP on our Altitude was in the high $27g but with some wheeling and dealing we got it for under $18g. We choose the Altitude model because it had just about everything the Limited had to offer minus the leather interior. We are averaging 27mpg on the freeway and 22 in the city. Merry Christmas TFL
Notice they bypassed the engine quality or lack thereof. It eats oil, approximately, 1litre/per 1000km after 50,000km of grocery shopping. The trailhawk is garbage too. $38,000 to by new, $16,000 max trade in 3 years later.
Merry Christmas to everyone at TFL, even though Roman and Tommy won't see any true Christmas trees in Florida, but there are plenty back in Denver, CO. Thanks for this buddy review, I would have to agree with the lease it vs. buy it mostly because of the reputation that Fiat Chrysler has for unreliability. As I have stated many times on all your channels, I WANT a Colorado ZR2, but I don't have the money or credit score for it right now and if God forbid my car went down I would almost be forced to look at the subcompact segment of crossovers since I want more ground clearance, and the Renegade in the Trailhawk trim is on my list, along with the Crosstrek and a couple others. Most likely would have to go preowned and look at the bigger brother in the thankfully facelifted bigger brother in the 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk. Which I have seen on Cargurus with less than 30k miles for $24,000 which speaks to the depreciation that many vehicles outside of the Toyota Tacoma and Jeep Wrangler face after driving off the lot. Thanks again for this nice buddy review even though the hula girl didn't make the trip down to where there is actual palm trees. haha
You see tons of these in Chicago and the suburbs. Merry Christmas.
I do believe that the renegade is nothing more than a rebadged fiat panda
You'd be wrong.
Fiat Panda is a world on its own, especially the original model. Timeless. If someone ever drove a 4x4 Fiat Panda (the original version) knows what I mean...such fun and seriously reliable 4x4. This Renegade is build on the same base of the Fiat 500X with a different exterior, which is nice imo. There are not Jeeps, Fiat and Alfa Romeo like they used to...with all these buying brands, merging brands and so on very few brands stay true to themselves and unique. What a pity...and now the FCA group dealing with Pegeout.... globalization is a cancer.
You must listen to Scotty because he said the exact same thing. Entirely different platforms.
I don't recommend anyone to buy this car. Had a family friend buy a top spec Renegade. After a year, some personal stuff came up, and she decided to sell it. It lost thousands in depreciation and she couldn't even sell it at C$25000 (it starts at C$28445 without destination, dealer fees, or taxes). There are much better buys, such as a base RAV4 or CX-5. If you want to stay in the same size segment, I've heard a lot of good things from owners of the Hyundai Kona.
Every one loses money on a new car.. THATS WHY YOU DON’T BUY NEW!! LOL
Dennis Xu...I agree with the Kona over the Renegade but ! Hyundai would be another big $$$$ loser at trade /sale time. I found that out with my 2019 Santa Fe, SEL. I really like it overall but a $7000. loss on book value trade in one year is hard to take. The 2016 Subaru Outback Prem. model I traded in is now worth more than my 2019 S-F. Basically they cost the same when new.
@@toddrobertson1398
Take note folks, we've got a new Einstein here. Yes, every car loses value off the dealer lot. That's obviously not the point we're talking about right now
I mean that family friend clearly didnt do he/she research ofcourse this thing doesnt holds its value I could have told you that. All cars new you will lose money. Some more than others.
Some brands lose a lot more than others the first year, found that out.
You shouldn't call it "brand new" if its refreshed. Brand new implies completely new design, not more or less identical with different bumpers and powertrain. Shame!
Just checked one of my local dealers they are advertising new 2018 ! Compass and renagade
Oh, the Fiat Panda
Edward Willey III, that's ONE SIZE LARGER than the Panda (Renegade / 500X are Punto-based while Panda is 500-based)....
Exactly, the panda is a small citycar/crossover while this is a supermini/crossover thing
I just got a 2023 Jeep Renegade Latitude, now the entry level.. But with Upland Edition.. Sticker price $31, 095.. I got it for $30k.. So, Got a bit lower than the sticker.
Did you get the Sasquatch Easter egg in the back window?
We own one not worth 30k
I believe they are over priced by 5k even with the rebate