I've been carrying the EDC 27 for 2 weeks now. Having immediate access to strobe as a security deterrent was one of the main reasons I purchased. I keep it in lock 1 mode for this reason and have not experienced accidental turn-on, probably because I carry on the outside of the pocket. The biggest criticism is that in lock 1 mode you have to tap and hold a bit longer than I feel is ideal for the light to come on. It's not a deal-breaker for me. Then, to keep in lock 1 mode, you have to press and hold till the light turns off (a short wait). I think this is a minor annoyance to preserve emergency access to strobe/turbo and also assure that there's no accidental battery drain (as mentioned, the proximity sensor has solved the accidental burning issue). Agree a mechanical lock-out might be a better solution.
Thanks for the review I was gonna buy this light but I’ll wait till it’s fixed. I thought about 3D printing a cover for it. If anyone does please comment on this for me.
Mine kept coming on in my pocket even after I locked it. Then I discovered that when you charge it, this disables the electronic lockout. When I charge now, I ensure I put it back in lockout afterwards and no more accidents.
Thanks for the honest review! Great to know, I was looking at this light for future purchase. I use quite a few Nitecore products including their chargers and tend to trust their manufacture process. That being said I will hold off till they address this issue. I would hate to depend on this light and the battery is discharged without me knowing it.
@@outerlimitless I can see that being a bummer! Oh and BTW love that your TKELL design did so well. I am thinking about getting one when Tim makes another preorder.
Thank you for this review. I was about to order one but looking around for more information I found your posting. This flashlight has many desirable traits but that switch lockout is unacceptable. I'll keep looking.
I bought this light and love it! It has worked flawlessly for me. The design and concept behind it allows me comfort in EDC and convenience working in an investigations unit. Using the light as it was designed to be carried, (utilizing the sturdy metal pocket clip), not once has it come on accidentally and that’s without even using the level 1 locking setting. By carrying the flash light as it was designed to be carried, the portion of it that protrudes from the pocket doesn’t make contact with anything to turn on. I personally don’t want a mechanical lock because that is something else to catch lint, grime, and have to manipulate if my fine motor skills are out the door in a high stress situation. I’m considering buying another one because of its incredible functionality. A good percentage of my coworkers are considering this light and individuals I’ve met in classes. I do appreciate the review though.
I agree with others that even a simple bezel or "crown" that rises above the button with some relief cuts to still allow for good thumb access would be a simple fix to this issue. I'd love to see that over a mechanical lockout, so that when deployed with a hammer fist grip, the grip wouldn't need to be adjusted or broken to activate the light. Just my .02.
Great review thanks, I have one of these and I would like to know if there is a way to check the battery level. There seems to be no gauge to indicate battery charge. Jon
So odd you’re having issues Still. I have the updated model and haven’t experienced any issues so far. A mechanical lockout would be good though. Or just keep the flush tail cap for the turbo/strobe, and make the other modes via a slider on the side.
Thanks for the update! Other than testing the proximity sensor and button, are there any other physical differences that differentiate the old and new versions?
@@jimygerilius2377The light gets hot enough to burn a hole in fabric at higher light outputs. If the front of the light senses it’s near something at those levels, it brings the power down to safer levels.
sorry for my poor english. how can I find out from the packaging that it is a new version with the changed functions. or since when was it produced? because here in Slovakia I see this lamp in several stores for a long time and I think they are old versions. or how to find out at the seller, what to ask.
Test to see if there’s a proximity sensor. Select high mode or turbo and while the light is on, place the lens near an object (even just the palm of your hand) to see if the sensor automatically triggers a reduced light/lumens/heat output. If that happens, you have the updated/upgraded model/version.
i'm not a fan of the electronic lockout either. i stopped using my tm9k tac because the lockout function kept malfunctioning. i am not risking 9000 lumens setting my purse or pocket on fire. a mechanical lockout would be better.
I had the first version which melted my pockets and the front of the light. This was the replacement NITECORE sent me as a result of my finding the first version was too dangerous.
Nitecore has put the mechanical lockout switch on the EDC33. Better later then never. There is this fixation with strobe and turbo being available at all times. Maybe the 0.1% of the people here needs the capability, but the manufacturers give top priority to this feature, because it is required by the local market. Maybe they should create a programming feature which allows to disable the turbo&strobe being available out-of-sequence...
I agree these electronic button lockouts are total nonsense and should go away for good. This urgently needs a slider lockout like they did on the new EDC33 that I recently bought. That being said I prefer the two button UI on the EDC27, it gives quick access to momentary boost, strobe and low light apart from permanent switch on but all of that is in vain without having a good lockout, bummer.
I really don't get it. I have had this since it was released. I have never had this come on in my pocket. Are you completely putting this all the way into your pants pocket? That is the only way I could even fathom this happening. I don't lock this out and carry it in a shirt pocket, a jacket pocket and clipped in my left side pants pocket and I have zero problems. This reminds me of what went on with the original Olight Warrior Mini. I never had a problem with that one coming on in pocket either. I carried it until upgrades came out and upgraded for more lumen output. I had given at lest 3 away to friends and family and no one I know had a problem. Now I will agree wholeheartedly that on a flashlight with this form factor (no tail switch to tail switch to loosen to break connection) a physical mechanical switch to lock out the light would be better for people wanting to lock the light out.
I’ve had a nitecore mini flashlight and a 20k battery bank all fail on me on a single trip. Their stuff isn’t reliable and the more powerful they make it, the more dangerous it becomes. Their customer service was terrible too. Sent me a severely scratched up light under warranty as a replacement.
I have an Imalent DX80, a 32,000 lumen light, with an electronic lockout. This is not a pocket carry light and I still have issues and anxiety attacks about it spontaneously switching on if I look at it funny. Electronic lockouts are essentially compromises between safety & convenience. And for the product designer they are a compromise between safety & manufacturing cost. A well designed mechanical lockout will always win on safety.
A simple bezel or spring loaded flip away cover for the buttons would fix the entire issue haha. Instead of changing the button layout/design they just put in a proximity sensor 😂. Intriguing light but unfortunately not for me. A slim edc light with blinding performance with a protected thumb button bezel is all I want
I remember people complaining about the Olight Warrior Mini burning stuff. Yet I never ever had that happen to mine. But then, I'm not a Mugle.
Yep clearly you didn't watch my first video
I have been carrying this light for 6 months. I lock it out and it has never come on in my pocket. How is this happening to you?
I think it presses into my belt.
Clip it to your belt, then?
@@williamkious5349 I use it I’m my back pocket but it can be carried in your front pocket as well.
So let me understand...the light keeps coming on ...in your pocket. Did I get that right? Perhaps its time to move on to another light.
Button placement?
I've been carrying the EDC 27 for 2 weeks now. Having immediate access to strobe as a security deterrent was one of the main reasons I purchased. I keep it in lock 1 mode for this reason and have not experienced accidental turn-on, probably because I carry on the outside of the pocket. The biggest criticism is that in lock 1 mode you have to tap and hold a bit longer than I feel is ideal for the light to come on. It's not a deal-breaker for me. Then, to keep in lock 1 mode, you have to press and hold till the light turns off (a short wait). I think this is a minor annoyance to preserve emergency access to strobe/turbo and also assure that there's no accidental battery drain (as mentioned, the proximity sensor has solved the accidental burning issue). Agree a mechanical lock-out might be a better solution.
I have this light and you are 100% correct.
Thanks for the review I was gonna buy this light but I’ll wait till it’s fixed. I thought about 3D printing a cover for it. If anyone does please comment on this for me.
Mine kept coming on in my pocket even after I locked it. Then I discovered that when you charge it, this disables the electronic lockout. When I charge now, I ensure I put it back in lockout afterwards and no more accidents.
Thanks for the honest review! Great to know, I was looking at this light for future purchase. I use quite a few Nitecore products including their chargers and tend to trust their manufacture process. That being said I will hold off till they address this issue. I would hate to depend on this light and the battery is discharged without me knowing it.
It's brutal. Three lock and unlock is so wonky too... It's a struggle.
@@outerlimitless I can see that being a bummer! Oh and BTW love that your TKELL design did so well. I am thinking about getting one when Tim makes another preorder.
@@Revenant483 thank you! I appreciate the support!
@@outerlimitless You are very welcome! =]
Rush to market?
I wish they'd drop the strobe and turbo and give us single stage, tactile switches. Hold down both buttons for lockout. One for power, one for modes.
Thank you for this review. I was about to order one but looking around for more information I found your posting. This flashlight has many desirable traits but that switch lockout is unacceptable. I'll keep looking.
I bought this light and love it! It has worked flawlessly for me. The design and concept behind it allows me comfort in EDC and convenience working in an investigations unit.
Using the light as it was designed to be carried, (utilizing the sturdy metal pocket clip), not once has it come on accidentally and that’s without even using the level 1 locking setting. By carrying the flash light as it was designed to be carried, the portion of it that protrudes from the pocket doesn’t make contact with anything to turn on.
I personally don’t want a mechanical lock because that is something else to catch lint, grime, and have to manipulate if my fine motor skills are out the door in a high stress situation.
I’m considering buying another one because of its incredible functionality. A good percentage of my coworkers are considering this light and individuals I’ve met in classes.
I do appreciate the review though.
Why would you buy two of the same EDC light? No offense but this comment looks like a paid Chinese add.
I agree with others that even a simple bezel or "crown" that rises above the button with some relief cuts to still allow for good thumb access would be a simple fix to this issue. I'd love to see that over a mechanical lockout, so that when deployed with a hammer fist grip, the grip wouldn't need to be adjusted or broken to activate the light. Just my .02.
Great review thanks, I have one of these and I would like to know if there is a way to check the battery level. There seems to be no gauge to indicate battery charge. Jon
Very helpful info, thank you.
So odd you’re having issues
Still. I have the updated model and haven’t experienced any issues so far. A mechanical lockout would be good though. Or just keep the flush tail cap for the turbo/strobe, and make the other modes via a slider on the side.
Why don’t they just make it a recessed button or add a protective rim around the button?
Thanks for the update! Other than testing the proximity sensor and button, are there any other physical differences that differentiate the old and new versions?
Nope
I would say the serial number ranges but I don't know where the first version cuts off and the newer version begins
i keep reading about a proxomity sensor...what is it for and how it works?
@@jimygerilius2377The light gets hot enough to burn a hole in fabric at higher light outputs. If the front of the light senses it’s near something at those levels, it brings the power down to safer levels.
It's such a shame because this thing had SO much potential! Ill just stick to my Streamlight Wedge until Nitecore truly nails this thing.
Does Nitecore offer a FREE replacement lense for the one that melted? I had the EXACT same issue as you did
I suggest reaching out and requesting a warranty replacement
Great information from real world use, thanks!!
sorry for my poor english. how can I find out from the packaging that it is a new version with the changed functions. or since when was it produced? because here in Slovakia I see this lamp in several stores for a long time and I think they are old versions. or how to find out at the seller, what to ask.
Test to see if there’s a proximity sensor.
Select high mode or turbo and while the light is on, place the lens near an object (even just the palm of your hand) to see if the sensor automatically triggers a reduced light/lumens/heat output. If that happens, you have the updated/upgraded model/version.
@@allemanderthx bro
How long did shipping take? I ordered mine on Sunday. Not sure when to expect them.
Just ordered one, and it looks bad ass. Or did I shoot myself in the foot?😮
Agreed
i'm not a fan of the electronic lockout either. i stopped using my tm9k tac because the lockout function kept malfunctioning. i am not risking 9000 lumens setting my purse or pocket on fire. a mechanical lockout would be better.
New drinking game… every time this guy says “in my pocket”, you have a shot. If you’re standing at the end of the video, you win.
I feel like this light and the way it works will one day be standard issue for space marines
how do you know what version you have?
I had the first version which melted my pockets and the front of the light. This was the replacement NITECORE sent me as a result of my finding the first version was too dangerous.
I think i see what the problem is... it's your pocket.
Get rid of your pocket, and problem resolved. 🤣
Nitecore has put the mechanical lockout switch on the EDC33. Better later then never.
There is this fixation with strobe and turbo being available at all times. Maybe the 0.1% of the people here needs the capability, but the manufacturers give top priority to this feature, because it is required by the local market. Maybe they should create a programming feature which allows to disable the turbo&strobe being available out-of-sequence...
I agree these electronic button lockouts are total nonsense and should go away for good. This urgently needs a slider lockout like they did on the new EDC33 that I recently bought. That being said I prefer the two button UI on the EDC27, it gives quick access to momentary boost, strobe and low light apart from permanent switch on but all of that is in vain without having a good lockout, bummer.
I have the new model, but it still melted one of my 5.11 pants 😳
I really don't get it. I have had this since it was released. I have never had this come on in my pocket. Are you completely putting this all the way into your pants pocket? That is the only way I could even fathom this happening. I don't lock this out and carry it in a shirt pocket, a jacket pocket and clipped in my left side pants pocket and I have zero problems. This reminds me of what went on with the original Olight Warrior Mini. I never had a problem with that one coming on in pocket either. I carried it until upgrades came out and upgraded for more lumen output. I had given at lest 3 away to friends and family and no one I know had a problem. Now I will agree wholeheartedly that on a flashlight with this form factor (no tail switch to tail switch to loosen to break connection) a physical mechanical switch to lock out the light would be better for people wanting to lock the light out.
Do you wear a belt? I wear a gun belt daily... Very rigid... The electronic lockout literally pushes directly into it when I sit down
Thanks for this review. I almost bought this thing but there is no chance this would work for me.
i got their discontinued SRT9 The Lumintop EDC18 is better than the EDC27 because the 2800 lumen turbo mode can stay on a lot longer
Thanks. Still not getting one.
You're probably making the right choice
I’ve had a nitecore mini flashlight and a 20k battery bank all fail on me on a single trip. Their stuff isn’t reliable and the more powerful they make it, the more dangerous it becomes. Their customer service was terrible too. Sent me a severely scratched up light under warranty as a replacement.
you gonna be disappointed with the newly released edc25. nothing had change on the switches and lockout mode.
I have an Imalent DX80, a 32,000 lumen light, with an electronic lockout. This is not a pocket carry light and I still have issues and anxiety attacks about it spontaneously switching on if I look at it funny.
Electronic lockouts are essentially compromises between safety & convenience. And for the product designer they are a compromise between safety & manufacturing cost. A well designed mechanical lockout will always win on safety.
A simple bezel or spring loaded flip away cover for the buttons would fix the entire issue haha. Instead of changing the button layout/design they just put in a proximity sensor 😂. Intriguing light but unfortunately not for me. A slim edc light with blinding performance with a protected thumb button bezel is all I want
P20ix is worth carriying
Thanks for the review. I was literally just about to buy one of these but now I've ruled it out and am gonna look for an alternative.
I've heard of "hot pockets" but this is ridiculous
Even if they kept the same lockout options they could have made the button a little more recessed or use the mode button
The light looks great but is a pos, a complete fail. I can't get mine out of half lock out mode. A worthless light to say the least
It's a light I want to love but it just doesn't perform as intended in my opinion. Too bad because it has a ton of potential
I bought one. After it kept turning on in my pocket, even locked, I bit the bullet and bought a Stiletto Pro.
You definitely had it locked right? I know mine was locked and melted my pockets...
hey how about instead of blaming the manufacturer, you just learn how to use a lockout mode?
You missed the whole thing... This started in part 1...
And notice what is now on the EDC33? think there's a reason for that?