Met John Force at Nationals at Englishtown, NJ. The boys and I stood in line for about an hour and the it got rained out. We returned the next day, got in line Mr. Force noticed my son and called us up to the front, gave my son three signed pistons, my son told Mr. Force your going to win Mr. Force! Yes he did set another track record. Great guy.
Met him in London Ontario while he was out to dinner (waited till he finished) he was doing a demo run at the St Thomas Dragway very gracious and friendly. He's done more for drag racing than everybody except Big Daddy.
Im glad this surfaced. Being part of an nhra race team in the early 2000's I got to see JF and team up close. These guy's are a class act that all other team's look up to. It was an experience I'll never forget. Thank you!
Gayle Charpentier New Iberia ,Louisiana John Force the Best Fun Car driver ever. ever I have been watching him ever since he started racing ,there will never be another like him GOD BLESS.
I have built and raced cars for 50 yrs. I really enjoyed walking through Force Racing shop. That is quite a family, The Force family. Thanks for the memories !
One of the best days of my life was having a one on one with John at Zmax . I respect and admire this man more than any racer on the planet. So successful yet so humble.
I met John Force at Detroit Autorama some years ago. He was drunk as hell!! We had a pro mod car in our display and the owner wanted JF to sign his car so he came over and tripped and fell on the car. I could not believe what I had just saw! We helped him stand up. He signed the decklid and walked away! He is a wild dude! 😁😁😁😁😁
Incredible man with an incredible story. I recall many many years ago watching John Force win a race. He hasn't won races and I recall was losing what sponsors he had. He ran a national race and he said that without that win he probably wouldn't have been able to race. I think that day he was the happiest man on the planet.
John Force : The ever-ready energizer always in hi-gear on fire funny car driver 😎 ( a truck driver / funny car pilot turned into a dragracing legend ! ) Right up there with.... Big Daddy, The Snake, Cha Cha now we can add John Brute Force ✔ He might even be at the top of the list with all of his amazing accomplishments 😆 Year after year he had some of the worst luck then it all turned around after that 1st win in Canada ? & the rest my drag racing friends.... is history ! ✌😎 Now that is a racing shop ! ! ! WOW... race shop / clean room 😉 The best part they can do everything in house !
,,,,,,,,,his history , excited interviews , and energy , will never be repeated.....Here in 2022 , life in drag racing is , well , dull , compared to a Force win , and interview......
Teams must own their own shops and fabricate, parts machining, paint etc. They must do basically everything in house to save millions of dollars, it all adds up. Fast. That is how these teams like force,Schumacher and other are able to race year after year. Professional drag racing takes sponsors that can spend millions of dollars. Teams must also run a tight budget. Without that racing as a whole would be very small and different than what it currently is today. I like the fact John Force was a truck driver. Being a truck driver myself, i know John force knew the meaning of sacrifice and hard work long before he went full time drag racing.
I really enjoyed watching this video and learning the behind the scenes of John Force and drag racing I always had a love for it but it made me love it even more so after watching this video
Well done! I interviewed JF for a magazine article a few years ago, he's a trip! You should check out the SURF CITY GARAGE facility in Huntington Beach. Neat place!
When I think of drag racing without a doubt he's the man that pops into my mind the leader in the sport the innovation and technology he and his team have is unprecedented . John Force is the man just for that 3 or so seconds. lol Him and his race family are like royalty to the sport.
Wow This Man Did Good .There's Only ONE J/F .Loves his Sport and Girls Shame We Never Got To See This Man at Santa Pod Raceway in UK where i live .But Noing NHRA They Won't Let Him
he has drove alit different gm cars when i first started watching when i was a little kid was oldsmobile then he went to pontiac the ford then back to gm with chevrolet
There's more to this shop than I knew about! It is very impressive that JF started out as a truck driver and built the fortune on just drag racing. All the other big team owners have other businesses that keep them racing. That said, we see here Exhibit 'A' as to why NHRA can not always fill a 16-car field at a big national event. How do you compete with Force, Kalitta or Shumacher? In the 1970's, Orange County International Raceway would put on local events with 64 and even 100 funny cars racing...nothing but funny cars all night long! Now, with Covid limiting attendance and the number of events, there will likely be a lot of sponsor money pulling out of drag racing, not to mention the thousands of $60 seats no longer filled. NHRA needs to somehow pull back on the money it takes to race. This would most likely require limitations in the engine, clutch and body departments departments. I would rather see a 32-car field of 270 MPH cars than 15 330-MPH cars. Rather than having one pro car per 10 million population, it would be good to see a couple of FC and TF cars from your average town of 100,000 people. The number of drag strips and events would grow exponentially. This is not to take away from John Force and his team...I have the highest regard for them. But a lot of us enjoyed the 1970's and 1980's much better than we do today's racing.
Nitro racing hasn't been good since they went to 1000 foot racing. Drag racing needs to be done on a quarter mile, 1320 feet. They should have slowed the cars down after Scott Kalitta's crash rather than shorten the tracks. Smaller engines, smaller blowers, less nitro or narrower slicks. Maybe even just fuel injection and no superchargers. 270 mph cars sounds good to me.
Where is John did John and the family decide to sit this season out because of the virus I can’t even watch a race because it’s not the same without John and the family involved Hope to see you and the family soon keep the shiny part up your foot to the floor keep on keeping on John
@@parentsbasement7734 Duh I don’t know why didn’t think of that makes sense to me I swear I must have virus of the brain I need to back off my medicine
@@robertwyatt2720 Not true at all with the reduced number of races he couldn’t meet the sponsor commitments and he chose to pull out rather than break his contracts which would have forced him to race on no sponsor money. Also his major sponsor Chevrolet decided to pull out of NHRA Drag Racing totally.
I've been mad racing and working on funny cars since the '70s! Met him a few times amongst many others! Future of the sport comes from the stands! The computers in the big corporations have killed it! One can sit in the stands and say wow that car was fast and it cost $3 million! Too sad I still match race getting too old to do it now but we used to make our money from tracks and selling T-shirts! But it's been dying since about 93 it won't be around much longer because big money has killed it! Just a thought!
It's a spectator sport!! Always has been! But when you create a scenario where spectator can no longer be involved I'm speaking of the fuel classes and the alcohol classes and the faster classes you've killed the sport!you can start by using your head and taking the computers out of the cars! LOL that'll piss a few folks off!!!
TV companies do this all the time, ticking boxes. In the 1980s in the UK, we craved TV airtime to promote drag racing. The BBCs science weekly, Tomorrow’s World, put on a feature where Dennis Priddle (our best approximation to John Force) produced a trick top methanol dragster for one of the program’s presenters to drive. Three guys and one gal in the team, guess who got to drive. It was entertaining but painful to watch as a lifelong fan of the sport. You can see the strain on Dennis and his team, only offset by the large envelope of cash the BBC probably gave them. All credit to Maggie Philbin for giving it her best but .... well you judge for yourselves... th-cam.com/video/Wk9VZPWSHrM/w-d-xo.html
@@MS-Patriot2 I would like to think the BBC will wake to woke, but I don't think they will. They have just about killed Dr Who with it, but no one seems to care.
I have always loved the sport though I've never felt inclined to participate in it professionally myself. Although I can certainly appreciate NHRA rules in regard to safety, I've found many rules of standardization too restrictive for my taste. Although the extreme hp is enticing, nobody can claim that what's going on with the clutches is efficient use of it. Hybrids and electrics are already here and have proven the advantage of their finely controlled torque, but who wants to hear nothing? My thoughts are that if the sport wants to survive the best way would be with a new hybrid class that uses a mil to make the juice to the motors. I think present speeds could be surpassed with less brute force and more finite control, but without giving up the engines we all love to hear. It would be like taking it to another level; and everybody is already using computers anyway right? I don't think it's really that big of a stretch but then they say you can always tell the pioneers by the number of arrows in their backs.
i remember those days when john ran on his own budget and had little to work with but he finally got some sponsors and the rest is history. like some have said, racing at all levels has gotten toooooooo far out of hand for some and it needs to be toned back so more can compete and not just a few that have the sponsors to pay for all the expensive stuff needed. F1 is a prime example and that is why i like indy racing because they all use the same chasis so all are on par and the engines and drivers decid who wins.
No shit, my grandfather is family with jhon force and my last name is also force, I shit myself when I found out he raced and I was related to him. I have been trying to get into contact with jhon for a while and nothing.
I made it to 15:43 before I hit the mute button. It's a one-sided conversation between a legendary R&D man and someone who looks and sounds like a failed volleyball player. It wouldn't have even occurred to me to annoy anyone inside this legendary shop unless I could produce at least five or six intelligent questions for maybe the janitor.
What part or "shop tour" did you not understand? It's not an interview. It's a shop tour, you know, "here's where we make engines", here's where we make stickers", "here's some of John's old suits".
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Wow, one of the GREATEST DRIVERS EVER! John P.
There’ll never be a better steward of drag racing than John. Wound tighter than an 8 day clock, but a really good man. A great family.
It took him 10 years to become a success so that should build a lot of humility in a person. He's serious about racing but enjoys life.
The NHRA would be much less than it is without John Force and his family. They really put a lot into it.
True
Hi John uncle gene would still be proud of you.
These shops are nothing short of amazing. The Force family has come a long way.
THANK YOU FOR THE SHOP TOUR I ENJOYED IT. AMAZING STUFF !
Met John Force at Nationals at Englishtown, NJ. The boys and I stood in line for about an hour and the it got rained out. We returned the next day, got in line Mr. Force noticed my son and called us up to the front, gave my son three signed pistons, my son told
Mr. Force your going to win Mr. Force! Yes he did set another track record. Great guy.
Met him in London Ontario while he was out to dinner (waited till he finished) he was doing a demo run at the St Thomas Dragway very gracious and friendly. He's done more for drag racing than everybody except Big Daddy.
@@bloodhound51 Right on! Wish I could say that I ran into him ANYWHERE! He is a great guy. I love Big Daddy Don too!
Awesome story! Great memory to have!
Nice ....I was a kid once back wen in Jersey race way park 1975 or 74 something like that .....
Im glad this surfaced. Being part of an nhra race team in the early 2000's I got to see JF and team up close.
These guy's are a class act that all other team's look up to. It was an experience I'll never forget. Thank you!
Just remarkable ! Outstanding tour & job done by all ! Special people with so much talent ! Memories ! Thank you ! Bob
Gayle Charpentier New Iberia ,Louisiana John Force the Best Fun Car driver ever. ever I have been watching him ever since he started racing ,there will never be another like him GOD BLESS.
I have built and raced cars for 50 yrs. I really enjoyed walking through Force Racing shop. That is quite a family, The Force family. Thanks for the memories !
One of the best days of my life was having a one on one with John at Zmax . I respect and admire this man more than any racer on the planet. So successful yet so humble.
_It was such a pleasure to watch this._
Beautiful video. Thanks for the memories John.
I met John Force at Detroit Autorama some years ago. He was drunk as hell!! We had a pro mod car in our display and the owner wanted JF to sign his car so he came over and tripped and fell on the car. I could not believe what I had just saw! We helped him stand up. He signed the decklid and walked away! He is a wild dude! 😁😁😁😁😁
Incredible man with an incredible story.
I recall many many years ago watching John Force win a race. He hasn't won races and I recall was losing what sponsors he had. He ran a national race and he said that without that win he probably wouldn't have been able to race. I think that day he was the happiest man on the planet.
AWESOME, THANKS STEVE FOR THE TOUR, FRIDAY AT THE PEAK CLINIC. ☝️🏅🥇🏁🏁🏁🏁
John Force :
The ever-ready energizer always in hi-gear on fire funny car driver 😎
( a truck driver / funny car pilot turned into a dragracing legend ! )
Right up there with.... Big Daddy, The Snake, Cha Cha now we can add John Brute Force ✔
He might even be at the top of the list with all of his amazing accomplishments 😆
Year after year he had some of the worst luck then it all turned around after that 1st win in Canada ?
& the rest my drag racing friends.... is history ! ✌😎
Now that is a racing shop ! ! !
WOW... race shop / clean room 😉
The best part they can do everything in house !
,,,,,,,,,his history , excited interviews , and energy , will never be repeated.....Here in 2022 , life in drag racing is , well , dull , compared to a Force win , and interview......
Yeah it was definitely an awesome experience working in that facility when I did, some really great people and memories
Not much has changed with him since High School......Except this work shop,...... Mr. Hoover would be proud John.
Very good interview and tour.
Teams must own their own shops and fabricate, parts machining, paint etc. They must do basically everything in house to save millions of dollars, it all adds up. Fast. That is how these teams like force,Schumacher and other are able to race year after year. Professional drag racing takes sponsors that can spend millions of dollars. Teams must also run a tight budget. Without that racing as a whole would be very small and different than what it currently is today. I like the fact John Force was a truck driver. Being a truck driver myself, i know John force knew the meaning of sacrifice and hard work long before he went full time drag racing.
Anyone else see the gray haired guy in the thumbnail & think sob john force has aged fast!
When the video started I thought "man, John looks weird......" LOL
I thought same. What a clueless info chick doing the interview. A few ladies, I like that. WTH?
I think John Force is probobly older than the guy who did the tour who looks a bit like Kenny Rodgers before plastic surguery ..
Yep, exactly why I punched play. LOL!
YEP!
Really good shop tour. Now we know why this year wasn't run, huge money to keep things going.
Nice shop good guy .who would think your kids would drive the cars to ... amazing .
,,,,As a fan of JFR for decades ,, I watch this with awed respect and admiration ,,, eyes welled up with tears of respect and awe.........
I really enjoyed watching this video and learning the behind the scenes of John Force and drag racing I always had a love for it but it made me love it even more so after watching this video
No better quality assurance than in-house fab and manufacturing 👍
Those funny cars of the passed though 💖
Amazing place thanks girl for sharing later
Nice 👍. Great history in the race business
John Force Racing, the best in the world!!
Is it me or does Steve Woodall look like an older John Force 00:35 ?
John force is the man my hero love to see him race jim
This is why The Force race team is the Best they make it happen!!
Well done! I interviewed JF for a magazine article a few years ago, he's a trip! You should check out the SURF CITY GARAGE facility in Huntington Beach. Neat place!
When I think of drag racing without a doubt he's the man that pops into my mind the leader in the sport the innovation and technology he and his team have is unprecedented . John Force is the man just for that 3 or so seconds. lol Him and his race family are like royalty to the sport.
wow ! Hats off to John !
wanted to see the blower dyno and what powers it since it takes 2000hp to run the super charger.
John Force racing is the best frm St Petersburg Florida
John Force for President!!!!!!
Crazy they even make their own washers,,,had no idea...
Great to see the genius Jimmy Prock talk about his work!
Unreal shed....well earnt!
The only thing missing is a 1/4 mile test track out behind the shop.
1000’
@@KylesDaddy100 ?
@@iwillbnnedafterispeakwhy6498 they run 1000’ feet, not a 1/4 mile.
Team JFR👍🏻👍🏻💚♥️🖤💙💪🏻Brute Force!!
It's amazing how these teams can tear down an engine in minutes. I put my truck in the shop to redo my seat and by it took 2 weeks.
Wow This Man Did Good .There's Only ONE J/F .Loves his Sport and Girls Shame We Never Got To See This Man at Santa Pod Raceway in UK where i live .But Noing NHRA They Won't Let Him
Do they make anything for other race teams?
Oh wow, you have a tubing bender! This is the biggest water jet I ever saw! Geeezzzzz.....Get her outta there.
I grew up watching John Force driving a Ford and loved it but never would ever think he would go to a Chevy
he has drove alit different gm cars when i first started watching when i was a little kid was oldsmobile then he went to pontiac the ford then back to gm with chevrolet
At this level of racing the only difference between a Ford and a Chevy is the stickers and who is making out the cheques.
@@turboturtle9083 some body make more downforce from different manufacturers
Really impressive !
Does JFR make parts for other racer ?
There's more to this shop than I knew about! It is very impressive that JF started out as a truck driver and built the fortune on just drag racing. All the other big team owners have other businesses that keep them racing. That said, we see here Exhibit 'A' as to why NHRA can not always fill a 16-car field at a big national event. How do you compete with Force, Kalitta or Shumacher? In the 1970's, Orange County International Raceway would put on local events with 64 and even 100 funny cars racing...nothing but funny cars all night long! Now, with Covid limiting attendance and the number of events, there will likely be a lot of sponsor money pulling out of drag racing, not to mention the thousands of $60 seats no longer filled. NHRA needs to somehow pull back on the money it takes to race. This would most likely require limitations in the engine, clutch and body departments departments. I would rather see a 32-car field of 270 MPH cars than 15 330-MPH cars. Rather than having one pro car per 10 million population, it would be good to see a couple of FC and TF cars from your average town of 100,000 people. The number of drag strips and events would grow exponentially. This is not to take away from John Force and his team...I have the highest regard for them. But a lot of us enjoyed the 1970's and 1980's much better than we do today's racing.
Nitro racing hasn't been good since they went to 1000 foot racing. Drag racing needs to be done on a quarter mile, 1320 feet. They should have slowed the cars down after Scott Kalitta's crash rather than shorten the tracks. Smaller engines, smaller blowers, less nitro or narrower slicks. Maybe even just fuel injection and no superchargers. 270 mph cars sounds good to me.
I could not agree more!
@@nitrousninja882 All they have to do is limit the fuel pump.
I completely agree with you. The current Pro Mod racing is quickly overtaking NHRA nitro classes, as far as excitement and relatability to the fans.
Where is John did John and the family decide to sit this season out because of the virus I can’t even watch a race because it’s not the same without John and the family involved Hope to see you and the family soon keep the shiny part up your foot to the floor keep on keeping on John
He's a germa-phobe, most likely not wanting to add the exspensive daily testing of hundreds of crew and personnel, is my thinking
@@parentsbasement7734 Duh I don’t know why didn’t think of that makes sense to me I swear I must have virus of the brain I need to back off my medicine
@@robertwyatt2720 Not true at all with the reduced number of races he couldn’t meet the sponsor commitments and he chose to pull out rather than break his contracts which would have forced him to race on no sponsor money. Also his major sponsor Chevrolet decided to pull out of NHRA Drag Racing totally.
Super professional outfit.
John Force looks like a Kenny Rodgers stunt double!
John Force is inspiring to everyone great video ,hopefully he can come to Ontario Canada again and bring Brittany and Robert and have match races.
Looks like all that Chevrolet bailout money went to John Force.
Better to have people think you're stupid than type something idiotic and prove it.
thank you ,, John you make or made
drag racing!
I'll always remember You've got to Take Your HEART to The Line . Hope I got that Right. Jimmy🇺🇸🏁
You got it exactly right
Don't ever count on the old man down he will leave you looking
Nitro in the morning smells better than Bacon
I was there when he saw Elvis
Upside down and sideways still in the lines
That's my dad , go Steve woodall. Love you
@Bud Weiser Well My name is Randy this is on my wife's account but yeah that's my dad
Wow...John has WHITE HAIR!! I havent been to the strip since '92
I Literally live 2 blocks from this location. Funny that I never hear them fire the cars up for a spin around the block.
This shop is INSANE..!!!
Say goodbye to that shop for sure. Ultimately sponsors killed the sport. TRUTH HURTS
I've been mad racing and working on funny cars since the '70s! Met him a few times amongst many others! Future of the sport comes from the stands! The computers in the big corporations have killed it! One can sit in the stands and say wow that car was fast and it cost $3 million! Too sad I still match race getting too old to do it now but we used to make our money from tracks and selling T-shirts! But it's been dying since about 93 it won't be around much longer because big money has killed it! Just a thought!
It's a spectator sport!! Always has been! But when you create a scenario where spectator can no longer be involved I'm speaking of the fuel classes and the alcohol classes and the faster classes you've killed the sport!you can start by using your head and taking the computers out of the cars! LOL that'll piss a few folks off!!!
Why are we saying goodbye? Nobody is going away, neither shop is for sale?
I drive by this building every day, I've never known it was this big. It looks quite small from the road.
Awesome
Here’s to the Force family? 👍🇺🇸
Cool shop and John Force is a legand but turn the music off during the video geez
When did JFR hire Nick Nolte?
There's only one KING of the sport, John Force
Agreed
Time to sign stevie jackson
I'm surprised chevy let force keep all the good old fords in his museum.
What happened to Austin Prock. They were running a T/F car last year with him driving.
I think this vid was shot a LONG time ago.
@@TheGoatMumbler had to be if Courtney was still racing. Been gone two years!
I thought this was a Dr. Gene Scott show by the thumbnail picture
AT FIRST I THOUGHT THAT WAS JOHN FORCE!
Me too. 😂 Because I thought the trend was to "go white". Just look at another of my hero's, Jimmy Page.👍
I thought that was Kenny (You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille)Rogers.
Is courtney coming back. What about Austin Prock
at first I thought holy shit John force looks old
Me too....I was like, DAMN HE LOOKS OLD!
It's not the years kids, it's the miles...
He had to dumb it down so she understood what R&D was.
From the looks of this video I would assume Force racing will be racing in 2021 ?????
I the Force family still in the OC?
I like to meet John force and his family
JOHN FORCE RACING... CLASS 🔥🔥🏁
Fuck john force, he's an asshole and an arrogant bastard. He did me wrong years ago and he's not forgiven, jerk!
could not have sent a more clueless person to cover this SICKK shop
Ready to hitt the gasssss lmfao
Should have sent you, then you could help your sister out a bit.
TV companies do this all the time, ticking boxes. In the 1980s in the UK, we craved TV airtime to promote drag racing. The BBCs science weekly, Tomorrow’s World, put on a feature where Dennis Priddle (our best approximation to John Force) produced a trick top methanol dragster for one of the program’s presenters to drive. Three guys and one gal in the team, guess who got to drive. It was entertaining but painful to watch as a lifelong fan of the sport. You can see the strain on Dennis and his team, only offset by the large envelope of cash the BBC probably gave them. All credit to Maggie Philbin for giving it her best but .... well you judge for yourselves... th-cam.com/video/Wk9VZPWSHrM/w-d-xo.html
@@MS-Patriot2 I would like to think the BBC will wake to woke, but I don't think they will. They have just about killed Dr Who with it, but no one seems to care.
NFL analyst same
I have always loved the sport though I've never felt inclined to participate in it professionally myself. Although I can certainly appreciate NHRA rules in regard to safety, I've found many rules of standardization too restrictive for my taste. Although the extreme hp is enticing, nobody can claim that what's going on with the clutches is efficient use of it. Hybrids and electrics are already here and have proven the advantage of their finely controlled torque, but who wants to hear nothing? My thoughts are that if the sport wants to survive the best way would be with a new hybrid class that uses a mil to make the juice to the motors. I think present speeds could be surpassed with less brute force and more finite control, but without giving up the engines we all love to hear. It would be like taking it to another level; and everybody is already using computers anyway right? I don't think it's really that big of a stretch but then they say you can always tell the pioneers by the number of arrows in their backs.
Yeah, nothing like that rumble that sends goosebumps up my arms. You remove that sound and that equals BORING.
"Biggest waterjet" video of milling... D'oh
Who is she?
Retired?
I’ve talked to John Force on the phone, but never in person
i remember those days when john ran on his own budget and had little to work with but he finally got some sponsors and the rest is history. like some have said, racing at all levels has gotten toooooooo far out of hand for some and it needs to be toned back so more can compete and not just a few that have the sponsors to pay for all the expensive stuff needed. F1 is a prime example and that is why i like indy racing because they all use the same chasis so all are on par and the engines and drivers decid who wins.
"EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: MIKE DENNIS" ? Would that be the same "MIKE DENNIS" of the "Dennis the menace" fame ?
Why did FORD Mo. Co. leave him? John Force was DRAG Racing when he was with FORD?
Ford pulled out of the sport entirely as far as factory support
Pulled out to support NASCRAP
Because NASCAR is failing
No shit, my grandfather is family with jhon force and my last name is also force, I shit myself when I found out he raced and I was related to him. I have been trying to get into contact with jhon for a while and nothing.
And right now these teams, except Force, are racing for 15,000 to win!!!
I think you should pay whatever she asks for
I made it to 15:43 before I hit the mute button. It's a one-sided conversation between a legendary R&D man and someone who looks and sounds like a failed volleyball player. It wouldn't have even occurred to me to annoy anyone inside this legendary shop unless I could produce at least five or six intelligent questions for maybe the janitor.
What part or "shop tour" did you not understand? It's not an interview. It's a shop tour, you know, "here's where we make engines", here's where we make stickers", "here's some of John's old suits".
What an incredible opportunity for someone to see this operation. Cant believe she asked pretty much ZERO questions. hmmm
It's a shop tour, not an interview. Its that old farts job to walk around and explain it.
Doesn’t Chevrolet still owe the American people some money for that bailout a few years ago?
How do you even try to compete against a guy named "FORCE"???
It's informative! Well thought out! Attention getter!😘