Deep in the south here, in the bama blackbelt..planting dates are different down here, principles are the same, your program is doing just fine here...using simple cereal rye for plots, layerd in 3 stages...absolute bulletproof entries and exits, alls well
Jeff can you do a detailed video on setting up tree stands along corridors between bedding and food? How far in should you go? How close to bedding to set up? Does wind matter in the morning when waiting for them to come back?
Hi Kenny...that's a 1 to 2 hour personal interview discussing soil nutrients, neighboring food sources, size of plots, size of deer herd, amout of time to plant, resources of time and money, current and future planting equipment to work with. I wish I could narrow it down that easily!
A shout out to John Comp of Northwoods Whitetails! I placed my 1st order with him earlier this winter. I left a voicemail with the company on Friday to ask about my order as I hadn't received it yet. John personally called me back Friday afternoon the same day letting me know there was an issue with my earlier order and said the delivery was on it's way. I received my order the next day, Saturday. John put the order in the mail, next day delivery. Great customer service!
Oh man...I wish I had an opportunity to watch deer stuff. My favorite is the old Drury Brothers shows...but that's it. I don't watch much else because I leetn outelybfrom the field 😊 I just go from comments from clients, viewers and readers...some of this stuff that is out there is unfortunate, from what I hear!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 ya sounds like you clients have been then I watch a few different shows and the things your saying basically comes straight off of grant woods lol they just beat a piece of pipe in the ground poured water in it idk but either way it's funny seems like short time after they make a vid you beat em down lol 😆 I like to see the difference from people's thoughts
Thanks for all the info! I have a farm in Southern Iowa, I planted switchgrass last spring, but did not apply any chemicals, just mowed it. This winter I frost seeded more switch, I applied symazine, but uncertain if I should use gly if it will hurt last years switch? If so, what is the latest to spray glyphosate?
Hi John! You can never speay Gly on 2nd year switch...it will kill it, because it emerges with Spring greenup. Frost seeded switchgrass doesn't germinate until around 8 weeks after spring greenup.
Keep in mind by the time I get too the final stage I would have sprayed mid may too kill weeds then 1st week in June buckwheat going into enhance organic matter six weeks seed into standing buckwheat then rollover and spray which brings me to my original question how do I keep from weeds growing on one side of plot while giving brassica a three week start before I now put my cereal grains in
Just watched 10 does Cruz through my winter rye..it looks nice 👍 Got simazine sprayed couple weeks ago, had to buy 2 1/2gal. Split with cousin still we have lots leftover for next year. Hope it has at least 1-2year shelf life. Thankyou guys so much!
I have about 1600 acres of public land 2 blocks from our land… I have yet to explore. It’s a bit intimidating to me. Wonderful info, LIKE ALWAYS! Thank you Fellas. Happy Sunday. Thank you Jesus!
I have a property in south central Montana and the places I'm looking to food plot are on the edge of swamp/marsh. But the native grass is a tall steamy grass like switch. Would you recommend cutting the center out and planting or find a new place
Picking the right tree for a stand is one of the most important decisions. Jeff, you're absolutely right 20 feet can make the difference in shooting a mature buck or not. And once a hot tree is found it can deliver for decades.
This will be my first year planting the No-till method. At what point does the thatch build up, to where you are unable to broadcast the seed on to it?
If you are talking 3 sprayings and then broadcasting...you want to spray before the weeds are 12 to 15" High in thr spring, and then spraying 2 more times about 6 weeks apart after that.
It would depend on the seed type. The grains like WHS / rye/ wheat ect can make it through almost 2 inches of thatch. Small seeds like brassica and clover will struggle if it’s 1 inch or more. The buckwheat crush is a great method as the buckwheat deteriorates quickly and gives the tiny seeds a chance.
They definitely have to be close in size! Also, there are very few if any soil builder mixes thst shouldn't be planted with a grain drill...or at least open soil and well disced or tilled. Just straight, simple buckwheat and red clover is very easy one that terminates will and is tried and true. Straight buckwheat if it doesn't get eaten down to the dirt and then add Med red clover if it does. Always keep in mind it takes around 100 years to create an inch of top soil. The buckwheat and rye combos are incredible. Clover for the summer if not creating a doe factory, tillage radish...rye for Dall combined with clover that will come in the Spring. Just good, decades proven farming practices.
Thanks Jeff,still waiting for the snow in the Detroit lakes area to finish melting to finish up the spring scouting. Do people truly understand the benefits of tillage radish,especially in clay type soils?
Hi Greg...I bet there is a lot up there still!! I believe farmers do...the onese actually doing this farming stuff for living 😊 But food plotters tend to overcomplicate the @!&? out of stuff!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 former farm kid here,tillage radish is a good field opener with a new property purchase or opening new ground. Terminate an broadcasted in the late summer helps the farmer get an easier start in the spring for sure
@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 thank you,I actually have mixed those while living on the western end of the UP it worked well. The famers her in northern MN use it on a large scale an then follow up in the spring with a nitrogen hungry crop
Jeff, Quick question. I have been using your no-till process for a few years. It is very successful. What do you do in areas where you didn't get a good grow or cover and the soil becomes like hard pan. I really want to limit tilling, but would you put a till n it so the buckwheat could get in the soil?
Jeff, you said the spraying of 24d and gly for frost seed switch grass is not just based on soil temp. How do you determine when to spray ? When is safe?
Hi Denny! Kevan was just someone I got to be acquainted either in thr industry. He then watched all of my web classes and studied my last 200+ client designs while he was in thr MLB...especially when the players couldn't do much during Covid. Saw his passion and experience hunting public land...working on private lands...and saw he would be a great fit. Joe was in the top 1% of all clients for his passion for executing the plan, understanding the concepts and working very hard. He is an exceptional fit. Both are un-schooled in deer habitat management...which has greatly helped their learning curve for doing it the right way 👍
Hey Jeff, great video. We have Kevan coming out in a couple weeks and we are anxious for fall planting suggestions. I have looked at soil builder information since our soils here in northwest Pennsylvania are heavy clays. You are spot on with the gimmick thing. As soon as i mentioned heavy clays, I received no information or responses. Thanks for being and straight shooter!
That's great to jear about Levan...you will appreciate him a lot! And those gimmick things...us food plotters obviously try to over complicate this stuff!! Getting back to the basics is key...
When I lived in northern Alabama, we had hard red clay, and our garden wouldn't produce good sweetcorn or carrots. After we started bagging and using lawn clippings to smoke out the weeds, and tilled it into the soil the following spring, then we had supple soil, 7 foot sweetcorn, and excellent carrots, at least until they hit the hard red clay and just stopped. It was the best thing we could have done for that clay soil was add organic matter to soften it. This probably wouldn't be practical for a good sized food plot, but something along these lines would help for sure.
One thing we determine between a buckwheat soil building process or our actual soil builder blend is : Organic matter % in the soil. Are deer going to eat the plot to the ground? What is the fall crop plot going to be? You can pm/ text or call us if you have test results and that may point to the exact situation that will work on your ground.
Question I’m splitting the plot in half whs blend / sweet feast brassica/ crimson clover this will be the fall plot going fwd that said how do I keep the weeds at bay on the cereal grains of plot while I’m letting the brassica getting a three week start ?
Hey Jeff! This is my second year of some frost seeded switch. Gonna spray today ! There is alot of weed thatch! Would it be beneficial to burn it first? Then spray?
Hi Steve! Spraying with Simazine you don't have to mow or burn. Then later even weeds arrive you can mow down to about 5". The mowing when weeds are 10-12" high and spraying Simazine will go a long ways...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thanks so much for the reply!! You and your team have really changed the way myself and daughter hunt ! And are starting to see results!
Thanks Jeff! Lord willing I will be putting my waterhole in today after church! Whitetail Habitat Solutions, church, then put a waterhole in!! Doesn't get any better! Lol, thanks Jeff!
Hey Jeff great video I'm going to purchase a 5 ft redneck and was thinking screaming around the frame with 5 or 6 foot tall and 4 to 6 inch round ash cuttings. Your thinking please and thanks.
Jeff, do you drill the buckwheat in or just broadcast it? I read it should be planted a half inch deep, so if I don't have a drill, do I disk, then broadcast, then cultipack ?
Hey Jeff, love the videos! quick question, do you have any boards under the redneck or just sitting diectly on ground? I am worried about mice gnawing, thanks again!
First and foremost, you've always provided amazing content that I cant thank you enough for. Now to the part that made my skin crawl a bit as some of the nitpicking between habitat specialist is getting too common and kind of annoying: The weird cringey "attack" at growing deer for their breakdowns of soil health is below you. It felt like you even forced yourself to mention it as you went back to talking about tilling a komp blend under at the end of the year to "build soil" when you've mentioned being no-till for 20 years. You and Growing deer have almost exact planting methods. No till is building soil because you're not destroying it to put "green manure" under ("You build soil from the top"). That's tired old boom farmer logic thats scientifically proven wrong at this point, and thats all growing deer was trying to show us. Farmers have destroyed 100's of thousands of acres accross the US with tilling and it cant even be argued when you see the amount of soil that has depleted in the last 80 years. We need to band together to convince them they can get just as good of a crop, with less ferts by going a better direction.. a direction you've been going for 20 years. Again, I love your content and I will continue to watch and I'm likely going to have Joe out to my property in reed city here in the near future. Remember that some of us need as much soil building as we can get, because we live in shitty soil areas with no ag for the deer to run off to at night. We have to do a bit more for deer to come at least partially close to reaching the genetic potential they have. You moved away from us and it seems like from time to time you forget a little bit. Come back to us!
Deep in the south here, in the bama blackbelt..planting dates are different down here, principles are the same, your program is doing just fine here...using simple cereal rye for plots, layerd in 3 stages...absolute bulletproof entries and exits, alls well
Jeff can you do a detailed video on setting up tree stands along corridors between bedding and food? How far in should you go? How close to bedding to set up? Does wind matter in the morning when waiting for them to come back?
Awesome video
What should be planted in cranberry country with a sandy soil? (Edge of Necedah Wildlife refuge)
Hi Kenny...that's a 1 to 2 hour personal interview discussing soil nutrients, neighboring food sources, size of plots, size of deer herd, amout of time to plant, resources of time and money, current and future planting equipment to work with. I wish I could narrow it down that easily!
Great video Jeff, what you think about a clover and chicory blend in northern lower Michigan
@Number 1 Fan thanks for the input
Great video Jeff, was able to squeeze in all my simazine spraying between snows and am on track for another big year!
Nice Alex...that's exciting!! Me too 😊 Was crazy with those random snows...
A shout out to John Comp of Northwoods Whitetails! I placed my 1st order with him earlier this winter. I left a voicemail with the company on Friday to ask about my order as I hadn't received it yet. John personally called me back Friday afternoon the same day letting me know there was an issue with my earlier order and said the delivery was on it's way. I received my order the next day, Saturday. John put the order in the mail, next day delivery. Great customer service!
Thanks Jason….
We try our best. Good luck this year!!
I had great customer service as well! I can’t wait to throw some seeds!!! 🌱🌱🌱🌱🌵🌱🌱🌱🌱
If you are planting clover or alfalfa, you can find a local farmer to mow it for you, sell them the hay.
I live in Georgia Im always curious what your thoughts would be because its pretty thick down here and bedding seems to be in a lot of places.
Jeff you watch growing deer sounds like a direct jab lol
Oh man...I wish I had an opportunity to watch deer stuff. My favorite is the old Drury Brothers shows...but that's it. I don't watch much else because I leetn outelybfrom the field 😊 I just go from comments from clients, viewers and readers...some of this stuff that is out there is unfortunate, from what I hear!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 ya sounds like you clients have been then I watch a few different shows and the things your saying basically comes straight off of grant woods lol they just beat a piece of pipe in the ground poured water in it idk but either way it's funny seems like short time after they make a vid you beat em down lol 😆 I like to see the difference from people's thoughts
Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for all the info! I have a farm in Southern Iowa, I planted switchgrass last spring, but did not apply any chemicals, just mowed it. This winter I frost seeded more switch, I applied symazine, but uncertain if I should use gly if it will hurt last years switch? If so, what is the latest to spray glyphosate?
Hi John! You can never speay Gly on 2nd year switch...it will kill it, because it emerges with Spring greenup. Frost seeded switchgrass doesn't germinate until around 8 weeks after spring greenup.
That hard bone clip of Venti was awesome 👍🏼👍🏼
He was a very cool one for sure!
Great video Jeff!! Cant wait to get out and plant some switch! Got my trees picked out for stands and water holes!
Sounds great Brian!! What a beautiful day yesterday and today, btw. Hope youbare enjoying the down time!
Thanks for Sunday morning video !
Did plot start work well last year ? Ty 🏹
Hi David...happy Sunday! Yes...I've really enjoyed it the last 2 season a LOT!
Great ! Thanks 🌾🦌
Great video!! I was wondering how many pounds of buckwheat per acre should I be planting ?
Hi Jimmy...thank you! Between 40 and 50#s per acre
Great video Jeff, starting on mine soon, still waiting on the weather.
We have a break now...so nice out Mitchell! Hope you get one soon too.
Keep in mind by the time I get too the final stage I would have sprayed mid may too kill weeds then 1st week in June buckwheat going into enhance organic matter six weeks seed into standing buckwheat then rollover and spray which brings me to my original question how do I keep from weeds growing on one side of plot while giving brassica a three week start before I now put my cereal grains in
Hi Jeff, when do you like to apply lime?
Jeff has used the saying, the best time to lime is any time! And it's very true!
Although he does use plotstart as a lime alternative.
The time to lime is any time...or in other words, ASAP
Just watched 10 does Cruz through my winter rye..it looks nice 👍
Got simazine sprayed couple weeks ago, had to buy 2 1/2gal. Split with cousin still we have lots leftover for next year. Hope it has at least 1-2year shelf life. Thankyou guys so much!
I have about 1600 acres of public land 2 blocks from our land… I have yet to explore. It’s a bit intimidating to me. Wonderful info, LIKE ALWAYS! Thank you Fellas. Happy Sunday. Thank you Jesus!
I have a property in south central Montana and the places I'm looking to food plot are on the edge of swamp/marsh. But the native grass is a tall steamy grass like switch. Would you recommend cutting the center out and planting or find a new place
Hey Jeff love the videos. What is another herbicide similar to simazine?
Picking the right tree for a stand is one of the most important decisions. Jeff, you're absolutely right 20 feet can make the difference in shooting a mature buck or not. And once a hot tree is found it can deliver for decades.
This will be my first year planting the No-till method. At what point does the thatch build up, to where you are unable to broadcast the seed on to it?
If you are talking 3 sprayings and then broadcasting...you want to spray before the weeds are 12 to 15" High in thr spring, and then spraying 2 more times about 6 weeks apart after that.
It would depend on the seed type.
The grains like WHS / rye/ wheat ect can make it through almost 2 inches of thatch.
Small seeds like brassica and clover will struggle if it’s 1 inch or more.
The buckwheat crush is a great method as the buckwheat deteriorates quickly and gives the tiny seeds a chance.
Hey Jeff , Vince here question about soil builder mixes. What’s your thoughts about trying to spread different size seeds through your earthway?
They definitely have to be close in size!
Also, there are very few if any soil builder mixes thst shouldn't be planted with a grain drill...or at least open soil and well disced or tilled.
Just straight, simple buckwheat and red clover is very easy one that terminates will and is tried and true. Straight buckwheat if it doesn't get eaten down to the dirt and then add Med red clover if it does.
Always keep in mind it takes around 100 years to create an inch of top soil. The buckwheat and rye combos are incredible. Clover for the summer if not creating a doe factory, tillage radish...rye for Dall combined with clover that will come in the Spring. Just good, decades proven farming practices.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks for the response Jeff
Jeff, sounds like you are throwing some shade to Dr Grant Woods and Green Cover Seed.
Thanks Jeff,still waiting for the snow in the Detroit lakes area to finish melting to finish up the spring scouting.
Do people truly understand the benefits of tillage radish,especially in clay type soils?
Hi Greg...I bet there is a lot up there still!!
I believe farmers do...the onese actually doing this farming stuff for living 😊 But food plotters tend to overcomplicate the @!&? out of stuff!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 another 8" Wednesday an Thursday,have gotten a lot of firewood cut just to get tops on the ground for deer feed
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 former farm kid here,tillage radish is a good field opener with a new property purchase or opening new ground. Terminate an broadcasted in the late summer helps the farmer get an easier start in the spring for sure
Greg
You could add cereal rye to that as well. Rye is my favorite planting due to the soil building qualities the following spring-summer.
@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 thank you,I actually have mixed those while living on the western end of the UP it worked well. The famers her in northern MN use it on a large scale an then follow up in the spring with a nitrogen hungry crop
Jeff, Quick question. I have been using your no-till process for a few years. It is very successful. What do you do in areas where you didn't get a good grow or cover and the soil becomes like hard pan. I really want to limit tilling, but would you put a till n it so the buckwheat could get in the soil?
Jeff, you said the spraying of 24d and gly for frost seed switch grass is not just based on soil temp. How do you determine when to spray ? When is safe?
Hey Jeff do you plant any part of your greens blend at the same time you plant the brassica
Hey Jeff, great video as always!!! Would you mind doing another how to video on travel corridors? Keep the great info coming!!
Did Kevan have u out to his property like Joe did is that how thy got on the whs team.
Hi Denny! Kevan was just someone I got to be acquainted either in thr industry. He then watched all of my web classes and studied my last 200+ client designs while he was in thr MLB...especially when the players couldn't do much during Covid. Saw his passion and experience hunting public land...working on private lands...and saw he would be a great fit.
Joe was in the top 1% of all clients for his passion for executing the plan, understanding the concepts and working very hard. He is an exceptional fit.
Both are un-schooled in deer habitat management...which has greatly helped their learning curve for doing it the right way 👍
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 hopefully one day God willing. I'll be able to meet you and do something similar
Make it happen Denny 👍🏼
Hey Jeff, great video. We have Kevan coming out in a couple weeks and we are anxious for fall planting suggestions. I have looked at soil builder information since our soils here in northwest Pennsylvania are heavy clays. You are spot on with the gimmick thing. As soon as i mentioned heavy clays, I received no information or responses. Thanks for being and straight shooter!
That's great to jear about Levan...you will appreciate him a lot!
And those gimmick things...us food plotters obviously try to over complicate this stuff!! Getting back to the basics is key...
When I lived in northern Alabama, we had hard red clay, and our garden wouldn't produce good sweetcorn or carrots. After we started bagging and using lawn clippings to smoke out the weeds, and tilled it into the soil the following spring, then we had supple soil, 7 foot sweetcorn, and excellent carrots, at least until they hit the hard red clay and just stopped. It was the best thing we could have done for that clay soil was add organic matter to soften it. This probably wouldn't be practical for a good sized food plot, but something along these lines would help for sure.
One thing we determine between a buckwheat soil building process or our actual soil builder blend is :
Organic matter % in the soil.
Are deer going to eat the plot to the ground?
What is the fall crop plot going to be?
You can pm/ text or call us if you have test results and that may point to the exact situation that will work on your ground.
Question I’m splitting the plot in half whs blend / sweet feast brassica/ crimson clover this will be the fall plot going fwd that said how do I keep the weeds at bay on the cereal grains of plot while I’m letting the brassica getting a three week start ?
Possibly a very careful (pay attention to wind drift) second spraying.
Hey Jeff! This is my second year of some frost seeded switch. Gonna spray today ! There is alot of weed thatch! Would it be beneficial to burn it first? Then spray?
Hi Steve! Spraying with Simazine you don't have to mow or burn. Then later even weeds arrive you can mow down to about 5". The mowing when weeds are 10-12" high and spraying Simazine will go a long ways...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thanks so much for the reply!! You and your team have really changed the way myself and daughter hunt ! And are starting to see results!
Thanks Jeff! Lord willing I will be putting my waterhole in today after church! Whitetail Habitat Solutions, church, then put a waterhole in!! Doesn't get any better! Lol, thanks Jeff!
@Number 1 Fan You Too Brother!
Hey Jeff great video I'm going to purchase a 5 ft redneck and was thinking screaming around the frame with 5 or 6 foot tall and 4 to 6 inch round ash cuttings. Your thinking please and thanks.
Jeff, do you drill the buckwheat in or just broadcast it? I read it should be planted a half inch deep, so if I don't have a drill, do I disk, then broadcast, then cultipack ?
So you can't use 2 4 D or roundup on two year old switch ? During spring green up?
NO!
Haha like #2 I'm getting closer to being the first. Hope you guys have a great day and another great video. Thanks
Hey Jeff, love the videos! quick question, do you have any boards under the redneck or just sitting diectly on ground? I am worried about mice gnawing, thanks again!
Thanks a lot James!! I either have 6×6 treated posts or they are on 5 or 10' steel platforms.
Woo hoo !
😊👍
First and foremost, you've always provided amazing content that I cant thank you enough for.
Now to the part that made my skin crawl a bit as some of the nitpicking between habitat specialist is getting too common and kind of annoying:
The weird cringey "attack" at growing deer for their breakdowns of soil health is below you. It felt like you even forced yourself to mention it as you went back to talking about tilling a komp blend under at the end of the year to "build soil" when you've mentioned being no-till for 20 years. You and Growing deer have almost exact planting methods. No till is building soil because you're not destroying it to put "green manure" under ("You build soil from the top"). That's tired old boom farmer logic thats scientifically proven wrong at this point, and thats all growing deer was trying to show us. Farmers have destroyed 100's of thousands of acres accross the US with tilling and it cant even be argued when you see the amount of soil that has depleted in the last 80 years. We need to band together to convince them they can get just as good of a crop, with less ferts by going a better direction.. a direction you've been going for 20 years.
Again, I love your content and I will continue to watch and I'm likely going to have Joe out to my property in reed city here in the near future. Remember that some of us need as much soil building as we can get, because we live in shitty soil areas with no ag for the deer to run off to at night. We have to do a bit more for deer to come at least partially close to reaching the genetic potential they have. You moved away from us and it seems like from time to time you forget a little bit. Come back to us!
Sad how you think you are better/smarter then someone with a PhD. Stop the mud slinging.