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How To Be A Good Player - D&December
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
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"Don't make the 'best' character, make an *interesting* character."
Possibly the best advice ever.
Especially when writing.
+Marcelo Cabral Lima Just because you CAN use the amazing stat rolls you got...doesn't mean you should.
I tend to do that for any RPG, what fun is a game if you're the best at everything?
+Marcelo Cabral Lima I actually fell into this trap when designing my first character. To make a long story short, I ended up with a level 1 Soulknife with weapon finesse, nightvision and essentially 20 dex. Even as an amateur, I shook my head and started over.
i have one player who constantly falls into this trap, trying to play the game constantly to win when we're not even playing for srs
"make interesting choices, not the best one"... like our mage who decided to try his hand at hunting. He clearly failed his wis check when he decided to shoot a fireball at a deer in the forest during a drought.
DarrylCross that is beautiful
Still beats our mage, who decided to use fire magic to liberate our stolen cargo after we had to run for our lives.
Unfortunately, our cargo consisted of something best described as the lovechild of firewater and napalm.
Two days later, most of the forests on the continent were burned to ashes and several towns had caught fire.
Some of those towns had storehouses with more cargo. Those places now have a lot of prime building space in the middle of town.
Or my level 1 goblin arcane archer, who downed a horde by launching his only spell, lightning, into the lake.
awesome
how about the wizard who tried to throw 23 knives, all at once, at an angry orc, but failing and striking an innocent kid in the process
"Don't. Be. That Guy."
*AD*
"... and everybody knows THAT GUY."
Tony Hakston so true, happened to me too
"Don't be *that* guy." Ad plays
CaptainPlayguy TH-cam was like "You called."
CaptainPlayguy same
CaptainPlayguy Projared: "don't be that guy" (TH-cam plays add) TH-cam: sorry jarred I can't help myself
"Don't be *that* guy" Ad Plays
After Ad: "be *that* guy
Cliffhanger...
I love that you straight up said, it's better to be interesting than powerful. Sure a powerful character is good in the fights, but the best and most important parts of D&D are outside of combat.
+CreepsMcPasta Creeps... every time i see you comment... You get cooler XD
+CreepsMcPasta You? HERE?
wut
+CreepsMcPasta You, sir, are a spectacular human being in a creepy Pikachu/Keaton mask.
That's why I try to fight well, but constantly bring the party in trouble whenever we're in towns; I like playing socially oblivious characters xD For example, one of my characters is a Tiefling Paladin raised outside of the cities and towns by fae, so she has no clue about how people loath her kind xD
+LaserLance125 GFS Where did OP even mention strength specifically? Also rolling a damage roll has nothing to do with being powerful. A non-powerful character can get angry and attack rocks too.
DM: "Your party enters the comment section of TH-cam. What do you do?"
Rogue: "I troll."
Paladin: "I social justice everyone."
Wizard: "I make ASCI gifs."
DM: "Does anyone thumbs up the video?"
Party: "..."
Rogue: "I thumbs down the video."
+Aizen Sama paladins are cool just not the ones who are assholes
Goddamn Paladin!
+Lock Jaw You win the Comments section! XP for everyone!
+Lock Jaw Barbarian: Hw do i tyep?
+Suika Ibuki Needs more CAPS LOCK.
For my first D&D character, This is what I did.
I made my Orc Barbarian, strong as hell.
He literally had 20 Strength when I started.
You know what his problem was?
He was the stupidest. He spoke in broken common and in the 3rd person. All the time.
"Grunther want pony! Grunther name pony....Pony! Grunther ride on Pony!"
This was how he talked. He interrupted council meetings suggesting stupid things, he crashed down doors instead of opening them, and he used NPCs as weapons.
He had an intelligence of SEVEN. I was trying to go for 6, but the DM wasn't having it. I could never tell if the DM was loving my character, or hating him.
He called the Druid "Tree man" and he called our Rogue "Thief lady". I caused for some of the most hilarious moments any of us ever had.
That. Is. AMAZING.
Sam Geuvenen I had some of the most fun I've ever had
That's called properly RPing your dumb ass Orc Barbarian. That character sounds great! xD
I made a Human Warrior, who was a complete psychopath. At first my party and the DM just thought I was just a silent warrior whom wielded a very worn, rusted great sword. After the first battle our party went through my character started taking the teeth, and tongues of the enemies he killed for the "collection."
The Elvin Ranger in the party, who was more like the leader started to ask why I was mutilating the corpses of the fallen?
to which my character replied not at her but just murmuring out loud ( more like having a conversation to himself); " Little memories upon my belt, ivory, and voice, it keeps the screams inside my skull dormant until the next wave of crimson.....it still won't replace her, will it?....SHUT UP!.....Remember....you did it, no amount of sacrifice will bring back the things you once had....GET OUT OF MY HEAD LITTLE MAN.....we have an agreement....you can bathe in all the gore you want but if that ruined blade touches the innocent again I will end us...."
I also RPed the shit out of this character using two voices, due to my chance of psychotic outbursts I was not aloud at any places with important NPCs due to incidents that previously happened , yet in battle I was used as a last resort tactic when shit hit the fan. The mage would often times sit on my shoulders casting spells as my character ran through monsters with his blade. The DM actually liked the unorthodox tactics my character would do and It was some of the most fun being a psychopath with multiple personality disorder and severe PTSD ever.
i got a goliath with intel 5 :3
"Don't. Be. That guy." *commercial break*
Dang it, TH-cam, you were that guy.
one of the best ad placements ever. period.
To be fair, when you start naming body parts that you're targeting it becomes a called shot and you get a minus to your roll
+Acleus Only if you want to be a rules lawyer, or use 3.5/PF rulesets.
+Acleus Depends on the DM. Personally I like to keep things simple and focus more on the narrative than the rules. But, eh, different tastes and all that.
+ProJared Point taken.
+Acleus I don't think that 5th has rulings for called shots :/
Yeah, my group was all kinda 3rd edition rules lawyers (including the DM)...We had a lot of arguments, especially after we ended up playing second edition.
^How to be a good player: Don't throw a knife at a little girl's face
I really hope there isn't a story behind that.
+Ringofan19 its from the last video
Drew L Ah, didn't see it.
Too late.
+Ringofan19 yeah long story short: shenanigans ensured after rescuing a princess from a bad gur, the party notice the girl is acting SUPER weird and try to figure out what to do with her...Jared's character, being neautral evil and thus prone to using the fastest solution for personal profit in not always the most of moral ways, bgets frustrated with this and throws a knife at said princess. fortuantely, said princess was actually a monster in disguise.
That last part reminded me of a game story a friend of mine gave. He said that he was in close ties with the DM, who had spent countless hours making a GIGANTIC city, along the same callibur of Minus Tirith. He put in countless NPCs with great character, numerous quests that were all open-ended, and a very big overarching story. He wanted it to be the best experience for when the player characters would walk up to the gates of the city.
Too bad he didn't take into account that they decided to turn around at the gates and go elsewhere.
That's where the DM would take fragments of that city and use them in places throughout the world and have the characters interact with those npcs in that manner.
I tried to get into D&D before, but I never even got a chance to try that play acting Jared yearns for. The older players made me a cleric, not because it was appropriate for a newbie (it isn't) but because nobody in their group ever wanted to be the cleric. I couldn't take the time to try to play act because others gave me death glares on my turn for "being slow" when I had to look up the spells in the book. (This is why only experienced players should ever be the cleric.)
I never even got to be a part of the fun since I was told to sit out every battle because "clerics are weak, so sit on the sidelines" but then after the battle was over, I was also told that "you didn't fight, so you get no loot." I tried to fight their stupid system, but in the end they just had me die and ripped up my character sheet so that I couldn't even keep it... never even got to reach the dungeon... If i had gotten to play act my cleric, I think it would have turned into a complete asshole from all the bullshit they put me through. :I
I kind of wish that I would have retaliated, but at the time I was trying to make it work. Obviously in retrospect it wasn't worth it.
I'm a old school experienced dm, from 2nd edition days. I'm not perfect but I keep players happy and wanting to come back. That said if I was your dm, if the other players were all you need to play a cleric we don't have one or want to play as one. I would of told them to play a cleric them selves or shut up. Every player should play the class that excites the the most. Balancing the adventure for not having a cleric is the dungeon masters job. Also if the party doesn't have a Cleric well that just means they are missing a useful tool. It's something extra to overcome. If every party is the same the game is just boring. It sounds like the people you played with forgot what it's all about. It's about telling a story not killing and leveling up. Its a great game when you have mature dm and players as well.
+Thomas Phillip *dabs from hearing such an insightful comment*
+Kyle Fields Wow, asterisks didn't even show up on my comment.
Kyle Fields
It's a common boldtext function, but I'd prefer if the asterisks remained visible too.
DM: There is a group of 10 goblins heading in your direction what do you do? Let them pass or attack?
Me: *takes the druid who turned into a honey badger off of my back shakes him furiously to piss him off and toss him into the middle of the goblin group like a grenade*
Long story short a couple of well place handaxes from me and a pissed of honey badger killed an entire group of 10 goblins without much effort....well from me....druid was covered in blood....
ShadowedSteel This deserves more likes.
OMFG YES!
Bravo sir, +1 ;)
ShadowedSteel
I am a bit late...
But GOD DAMN THATS HILARIOUS
ShadowedSteel I have a friend who had some party members captured by goblins. One of them was a cook and showed them how to make their food taste good, even making ice cream for them. And killed all of them. The goblins were lactose intollerent!!! They all got really sick allowing them to be killed like they were nothing!!! I wasn't there for this, but I laughed my ass off when I heard it though
D&D one of those games I want to play but I dont have friends that are into it.
+coolgabe555 try roll20.net
There are groups that allow new players to join and will also teach you the game if you're new to D&D in general. I recommend having a mic, at least, since that tends to be a common requirement
+Tech Priest The Icewind Dale games are pretty good, too. You have to build an entire party, which can be a great way of learning how some of the basics work.
+Chuck Connex why not make an online party, Im looking for people to play with, that would be 3 of us :3, we would need someone to teach us though
***** I could join with the party if you want although I dont know much about D&D
+coolgabe555 me neither... that's the downside, What I did was do an account on roll20.net and Im looking for a DM, if you want, add me there and let's look for games
"Then I would go play a video game...or pathfinder."
I fucking lost it at that point.
well, pathfinder isn't really only about minmaxing. although you certainly can do that.
Pathfinder is essentially D&D for Videogamers. It's got advanced customer characterization, an absurd amount of options, and more or less caters to that crowd.
Calm down dude. Your butthurt is showing. ;)
thats funny considering pathfinder was literally made to counter D&D 4th edition because it got too mmo-y
Yeah, thats right Ninja Mato. Pathfinder can be played more relax way, beside what's wrong with customisation? I find it quite nice, that you can fit mechanics to your character concept. Street fighter barbarian dwarf sends everyone his regards :P
Meta-gaming can result in some hilarious moments when the players underestimate the DM. To use the "Beholder in a cave" example, if I were DM in that game, there would ACTUALLY be a Beholder in the cave and it would probably rip the party to shreds.
I like to metagame and purposely touch suspicious magical items (my character has low wis and would totally do stupid stuff like that).
I think it’s a shame gameplay-wise to ignore such obvious traps when those can end up creating side quests (getting rid of curses etc).
Last time I did it, I was cursed to have the strong urge to make a suit of armor. Had to go back to the town and have my own blacksmithing montage and became friends with the dwarves there. Made a snazzy breastplate as a result.
None of it would’ve happened if we just walked past the hammer giving off a strange aura!
Ugh, we've recently let one of "those guys" into our 5e group... whenever we're in a situation where we have to be stealthy, the guy fucking thunderclaps just to be funny. There were several times where the party was nearly wiped out as a result. I fucking hate that guy.
We did. The party killed him off and the DM gave him a chance with a new character and said if he did that again, he'd be kicked out of the campaign.
SAVAGE! XD
Basically our response as well whenever anyone tries that nonsense.
Have the DM and players follow their acts to their conclusions, and let them feel the consequences. The big, pointy consequences.
Matt Lothe ew 5e
"Then I'd go play a video game... or Pathfinder."
That line still has me rolling XD
Agreed.
Was the rolling part a DnD joke?
I love the lead up to that. We *all* know what the punchline to that whole joke is, we're just waiting for him to say it
I played a WoodElf who was sick of living in the forest. He found work on a ship and was able to see the world from the ocean. But the people on the ship were a group of nomads who lived on ships.
He fell in love with one of the daughters on the ship and got her father's blessing to marry her. But as tradition, my character needed a ship of his own for them to live on. He joined up with the party so he could get money for a ship of his own. He eventually got one, but discovered that the girl's family was attacked by pirates. So he hired a crew, stormed the pirate's hideout and rescued the girl and her family.
oh, I should mention that the ship was the reason my character wanted a bunch of money. I took a cliche and made it different...it may not have been great, but it was different. We had a lot of fun with that quest line.
That is really cool. Did he have the sailor background?
MrFireCowboy no he didn't. I thought about it, but I thought it would be more fun to have him be a sailing newbie
Ben Walters That's really cool, I should think of a character that has a backstory that spurs its own adventure
Now that's a good backstory. Nice one. :)
I used to like to play "D&D" at lunch with my school friends. However, it wasn't really Dungeons and Dragons, but more like a botched version that was refilled with each of our imaginations. We didn't have die, we didn't have a rule book, and no one knew of any of the monsters existent in the D&D universe, so what we did was make up ridiculous monsters and ridiculous rooms, along with ridiculous characters. It was the funnest game ever, and each of us would look forward to school time just to be super wacky and make up this universe.
Nin-Zilla I am jealous.
Woah! My friends did that too.
I did that except my brother bought me a set of dice. I still remember that story it was actually pretty cool
"He's not a thief, he's a treasure hunter."
Aaaaand immediately my mind goes to Locke from FFVI XD
I play a druid who can't talk, and she has her raven talk for her. So far he's gotten into a bit of a rivalry with my group's sorcerer.
kaelang12 Bahamut knows how she did it.
i have a human monk who cant talk because he lost his jaw when orcs raided his village, and he too has a bird to talk for him... but its not magical, its simply a grey parrot that works with command, like scratching the downside of his beak means ´´Introduce us´´ scratching it harder means ´´introduce us all´´ touching the tip of the beak is ´´say:Who are you?´´ petting his beak from above means ´´Remind me/ Help us with this´´ sincemy monk has an INT of 8.
I play a Paladin mainly and whenever we encounter something that is possibly evil I always ask "Are they in favor of the church?" If the dm says no, I just say "Those sons of bitches are gonna die in the name of God!"
honestly... that's the funniest way to play a paladin, whatever that is.
Qualquer gamer
Paladins are basically holy fighters.
ninjacat509 I know, it was a joke. go watch spoony's ultima reviews
THAT is the Paladin, that does good by doing bad to bad people :D and i love it :D
LectornAnigame I refer to those types of paladins as "lawful stupid." I have nothing against paladins, or righteous characters in general, but killing just because there's no reason not to would result with the character having a major talk with the deity they follow. Especially if it's a paladin. I can only see characters aligned to "evil" getting off scott-free.
I recently played my first game where I played as a Human pirate. He was like a charismatic ladies man who was constantly getting hit by women. He also got frequently drunk. But he was an amazing pickpocket .
But only when drunk, right?
Tony Hakston I guess i worded that really weirdly
Enclave Commander NO.3-117 it was more of a joke borne of wishful thinking
Also, can meta-gaming be the player knowing things that the characters don't? For example: if one of your party members steps to the side for a whispered discussion with an NPC. That person and the DM would be talking out loud, and yes, as a player you would hear it. However, because the discussion was whispered (unless you have some sort of skill or action that allows you to eavesdrop), your character would not know that information. Right? :D
+LightBlade32 Correct!
+LightBlade32 use notes or send players in different rooms along with a DS until your done.
+GLW gameplayer
Or just have mature players.
Fen Y Yeah. I don't see the need for separating the players. The DM could always punish for meta gaming. Unless the players are new. Warnings work to. Just say, "but does your CHARACTER know that?"
+Fen Y In a perfect world, yes. Pick "mature" players-- but from my experience, you can't always choose who you play with.
The more I watch these the more I wish you had your own D&D focused channel
+xophis2 I give this a thumbs up.
+xophis2 Agreed, Spoony does not upload enough for me to get my silly D&D stories/Actual advice. Please Jared let this become its own thing.
+Wexter0083 If you want more D&D channels, I'd recommend Afistfulofdice, Dawnforgedcast and itstabletoptime. The first two are more stories / help for being a player or running a game, while the last one posts their campaigns.
Hey PJ, have you ever played "One Up D&D"? I used to play with my friends and basically every action a person has, has to be even more over the top and ridiculous than what was before.
"I swing my +10 astral blade of the storms at the emperor dragon Tilgrasil, shooting energy waves at the many hearts in the dragons chest!" ~Fighter
"Well I cast Divine Judgement on the dragon, converting him to our party as a pet!" ~Wizard
*Wizard gains level 2334 Emperor Dragon, Tilgrasil!*
Etc. It's pretty damn entertaining, but it gets out of control really, REALLY quickly lol
In one of my games, we have a druid who has lived alone, the if not the majority of his life, his entire life, alone in the woods. He doesnt have a name, the party named him Gail. He also can not read or write, and has no idea how to interact in society. He is one of my favorite characters in any of the games I run because of how well he roleplays this. It doesnt matter what he does as a druid, or in combat, or anything, because the way he lets me play off of him, and how he plays off of me, with this massive flaw, just makes every game entertaining.
They were in a tavern, working off the debt for staying there for the week since they had no money. He turned into an animal for some reason, and a drunk girl approached, demanding he turn into a platypus, he didn't know what one was, she get annoyed, and attacked. Ended up tackling and knocking over our dwarven barbarian. Soooooooooooo much better then him having min maxed stats.
My character was raised by wolves before being found by a random other druid who lived in a tree house, and thus has a charisma of 8. Also, she occasionally eats food off the floor, and steals things off of dead bodies. And refuses to hurt wolves. Her main Beast Form is a wolf, obviously.
I'm never going to play D&D in my life but I keep watching these videos and taking notes for some reason!
+DreamcastGuy Projared is subliminally conditioning you.
Ah, you say that now, friend. You'll find an oppertunity to play at some point and the D&D fever is gonna get you.
+Ringofan19 I honestly believe you now. :)
+DreamcastGuy Projared mentioned Roll20 in some other video, you should give it a try.
If your friends are up for it, it's really fun :)
"He's more of a Treasure Hunter, not a Thief"
Gee, doesn't THAT sound familiar
+MLDKF I bet he's on a quest to find the four elemental treasures too. :P
+RPGtourguide Never heard that one before.
Call Diath a thief and he'll rip ya lungs out
+MLDKF There's nothing wrong with taking inspiration from other sources as long as the finish product has its own unique spin. In fact, some things work better when created off of other ideas as many of their aspects can be implied. For instance, Fireball is always expected be a simple, high damage, elemental spell. It makes no sense to come up with another simple, high damage elemental spell when there already is one. Now, coming up with a spell called Pyrespike, which is casting a fireball with a volleyball serve, would be more interesting, even if it's still a Fireball.
+Crossplay I know, I'm just trying to poke fun at the fact that Jared's rogue takes inspiration from Locke.
I had a friend, who had never played d&d... so we invited him to a session... he was "That guy" and tried to steal a stained glass ceiling... he got a 20 so the dm allowed it, but then he redeemed himself by doing the dumbest thing ever, for laughs... "DM:there is a wardrobe, coated in a reddish slime, in the corner... the room is otherwise empty| Player: I lick the wardrobe| DM:you begin to choke... the red slime is poison| Cleric: I use my last spell to cure him| DM: your allies quick thinking pays off, and you begin to recover| player: I lick it again..." [characters tombstone: he died, but his stupid sacrifice will remain in our memories, and the gold from the sale of his loot and belongings in his friends respective coffers... tombstone text provided by the ranger Eldarrith(ME, at the time, 3.5E)] it was funny, because he acted out his character death scene...
glorious
heres a question.......... where did he put that stainglass ceiling......
Chekhov's gun anybody?
My marathon of rewatching, liking, and commenting on every Jared video continues. Video 57
Baldur's Gate music =)
Why is this not the top comment?
"Don't be that guy." And suddenly an ad with a screaming kid running with a toilet paper
I once had my wizard use a scroll of lightening bolt to have a tree fall and pin an enemy.
Genius :D
"The tree falls the wrong way and crushes two orphans and their three-legged dog"
can I be a Steve and go right
***** I eat the dragon.
the dragon finds a secret passage.
A-Bomb Mori What do I roll for that?
BigsZone roll 1d20 to dodge the trap door opening
A-Bomb Mori rolls d6 I cast flay and ascend at full speed
one thing i like to do when character creation is use character creation tools from either literature or even other systems.
for example: When I create a D&D character i take a look at G.U.R.P.S. character book to help develop their personality. GURPS(Generic Universal RolePlaying System) is a whole separate game like D&D but in character creation you can take what are known as Flaws. these Flaws give you extra points to spend in character creation but you have to take a mental/physical problem. These give characters depth like having kleptomania, loss of body parts, specific rank/honor importance, always required to follow the gentleman's code.
and your DM might allow you to adapt those to give you extra points, but I usually don't care, i just like the in depth details of flaws to give your character that GURPS uses.
Fifth edition of D&d actually added personality traits as a part of character creation, including your background before you became your class, your ideals, and your flaws.
+AdellRedwinters I particularly like that addition, myself.
I was playing D&D with my brother and we were solving a mystery of sort and there was a man with LOTS of info for then and down the road but when he rolled he rolled a one so we made up he said "HEY BARTENDER get this guy some apple juice!" And he left...
Probably the greatest on the cuff, creative moment between me and a friend in a D&D game; I was playing a Tiefling Assassin Rogue with a couple levels into Infernal Warlock, my friend was an Arcane Trickster. We were partners in crime in game, so we often worked together. One day we as a full party went to go and find a stash of magic items that were stolen by a corrupt family, we get all set up with disguises and magic to keep our identities hidden. Upon sneaking in to get to the carriage that had all the items, one person botches their stealth check. We all immediately get on guard since the sound of footfalls are approaching from a floor above. We expect guards, we get devilkin with huge wings and magic spears. We all panic and hop into the carriage and go darting out the barn. My friend gets an idea, to make an illusion over the entrance, but he thinks it won't work. I tell him, "I've got prestidigitation, I can slam any open door." His eyes light up and we team up together, he makes the illusion that the door is open and we're riding off, the devilkin take flight to come after us at full speed, and I slam the door shut asap. The DM chuckles and describes three loud "Thunk"s as the door buckles and the devilkin all knock themselves senseless against the technically invisible door. We made off like literal bandits and it was awesome. Best moment I've ever participated in.
I love my dwarf demolitionist who is stupid and weak, but knows bombs, is very lucky, and can convince you you cut your own arm off lmao
Oh and he was a kleptomaniac
I made a halfling paladín...it went as well as you'd expect, but MAN was it a blast! xD
AngelicalSebastian its always those gimped characters that are the most fun.
Felix Iris
I know right?. I´m trying to figure out how to make a mute character but still make it work somehow.
AngelicalSebastian sign language or chisel words in stone all the time probably. Or just like make him gesture to everything, sounds super interesting. Would love to play. I don't have a group anymore though :/
Felix Iris
Yeah, I´m lucky enough to know a bunch of guys who are really into D&D. Actually surprised people from my country even know about it.
"I'd just go play a video game. ...Or Pathfinder."
Shots fired.
I once played a gnome bard who developed hydrophobia after an incident with a water trap in the sewers.
+Drake Russell i always wanted to play as a Black Gnome Berserker.
I love playing characters with great strengths and equally terrible flaws!
My rogue was such a blast to play. He had such low charisma and wisdom that (despite being a criminal) could not keep a secret to save his life. The main thing that saved him was the dex to get out of trouble and his party members who literally cover his mouth in social situations before he shares too much info to the village guard. The bard would then try to talk the guard into thinking that we had no secrets to hide.
Sometimes the bars would also join in the rogue to stir up trouble and give the paladin a headache lol.
This was all with PC permission though! Try not to intentionally stir up trouble if your other players want things to go smoothly. Don’t do anything that would piss off a friend. (Only steal from friends if it’s all in good fun, they’re down with it and it’s possibly fun RP).
I played a drow bard named Callimar. He had an 18 in charisma, but a 6 in strength. Needless to say, he got the crap beaten out of him when the situation turned sour
The last Pathfinder game I played, I was an Orc barbarian with a strength of 24, meaning when he raged he got a 28 with a magic greatsword.
I literally ended fights in one turn with that character, including once destroying a building and crushing the enemies inside.
I asked the DM and other players if they wanted me to nerf him, or change characters, but they all loved that character the way he was.
That was kinda a dilemma cause I hate playing OP characters, and it didn't seem fair on the others, but they liked it.
+PaladinGear15 That game ended because the DM was doing everything wrong, mind you... like making every character roll every 30 feet we travelled in a civilian inhabited town for an enemy encounter (like Bugbears, wild boars, a hoard of goblins, or a giant snake...)
+PaladinGear15 Can someone kinda explain to a noob like me what Jared meant with his comment on Pathfinder? How it is more about making the optimal build? I only started Pathfinder half a year ago and never played anything else really, so I don't know the difference. I'd say our characters so far were nowhere near perfect stat-wise and we got through everything very well. So does he criticize the character creation, or high difficulty that can make interesting builds very underpowered, or more focus on combat? I'd really like to know.
TheThoerlChannel honestly it depends on the players and their attitudes from my experience, it seems like kind of a pig-headed thing to say on Jared's part.
not liking an edition isn't an excuse to insult anyone who does enjoy it after all.
***** To be fair, he doesn't do that really. More of a little jab at it. I don't see a problem with that, I'd just like to know what exactly he means by it.
TheThoerlChannel yeah, you're right.
guess I shouldnt've assumed the worst, really.
Spoony's attitude to certain players made me awkwardly sensitive to it I guess.
I've always wanted to make a guy that's a super good healer, but he's also an alcoholic, smoking, drug addict.
+zempmasterz He should also tell the rest of the party that they should never do drugs as well and is a constant hypocrite.
+zempmasterz like Ben, from Aquatallion (doubt you get that reference)
Chili Hoyer
Pretty much yeah, or be like "i don't mess with magical relics, those things will kill ya." While he is smokeing.
zempmasterz Yeah that sounds pretty good.
+zempmasterz You're making Dr. House?
hint: put your sword in your bow
skry sage So instead of arrows YOU TROW SWORDS.
Sir. I think you found the true meaning of "Destruction"
you are a barbarian
you sleep at an inn with your party
you awaken to a large group of bandits raiding the small town
what do you do?
you rip the door off of the inn and throw it at the bandits
proceed to bandits
pick one bandit up
start swinging him around, hitting other bandits
never use you axe even once
good advice
Robert Cop I have a friend who used to play a Barbarian named Gregor. any time we reached a door in a dungeon, instead of opening it the normal way, Gregor would kick the door in, normally knocking it off the hinges and killing any enemies unfortunate enough to be in the trajectory of the door
Just thought I'd come around for a refresher :)
Still a great vid :)
Jared, did Tydra ever do "that guy" stuff?
Like, when he decided he wanted to catch the ballista shot and obliterate the dwarven army with it, did you think he was being "that guy"?
+Mash Ketchum Nope. That was him doing something interesting instead of something that's best.
I only wondered because it seemed like he had completely ruined all the thought you put into how the group would make it to the evil dwarven clan leader and defeat him.
I know this is an old comment, but you have to think of the ballista bat story from a player's perspective, "You're in the middle of two warring armies ready to charge, one shoots a giant arrow at the army directly behind you and you are in the way, but you have enough time to dodge." As a player of a few years my first thought would be to try and stop or redirect it somehow, but most of my characters have some form of hero complex or crazy honor so they/I would be most worried about the people behind the party and the assholes using siege weapons against lines of soldiers. You don't really think at any given moment, "Wow, I bet the DM put hours of work into how we're going to escape this", you think, "Holy crap, what do I do now?" Unless there are explicit instructions on how to get around an issue, (which I personally think only a new or limited DM would do) you think pretty freeform and in the moment, which is the challenge in DMing, trying to predict that kind of thought.
Sean H catching a ballista is the one thing you just don't expect to happen
And that's the beauty of DnD, you can't expect anything at all... You just gotta dive in and hope whatever you do works out and having fun with it all.
I recently made a character, named Alain
He is a Rogue Duelist
He carries a rapier and a slashing sword (renamed long sword)
His right arm was injured and he could barely use it.
He is grizzled, peppered beard and hair.
He is the face of the party, the highest Charisma.
His backstory is that he used to use both weapons at once, he was a caravan guard before he settled down in his home town and married his wife and had children.
One day the town was attacked, his brother ended up dead, his children missing and his wife in a coma (which ended up killing her).
After he is done mourning he sets off on his horse to find his children, which he promised to do to his wife before she died.
I think I did pretty good, what do you guys think?
ImTheMarioGuy
Thank you!
it makes a very good game premise if you ask me
Nelsonionto Maciota
Thank you, but as I have been told by my D&d playing friends.
It seems too "I am the main character" to fit in with a group of main characters...
That sound really similar to Dunban from Xenoblade Chronicles. Not a bad thing by any stretch.
Patrick Bever-Chritton
Oh my god he does.
He needs to pick up a katana and rose petals (closest thing to cherry blossom leaves) at the next town.
And I'm gonna have to memorize Dundun's speech that he rails off when doing his special attack.
Thank you so much for this.
Just after he said dont be that guy i got an ad about a guy that lost his legs
oof
I have a player in my current game who tried to convince me that the lungs of a creature were a container so he could cast Create or Destroy Water and drown them
...Wat.
And you refused?! He could've done it if he rolled well!
So basically a pneumonia spell
Your videos and stories made me want to play a lot..
+TheMattychu bro do it!!! its RPG in its purest form!
+Jesse Renick might as well!
its fun im jonesing to play as we speak
+TheMattychu how do i play if i have no friends :c
+GritscanTV Not trying to hand wave you but Jared gave suggestions for this in a previous video in this series, I can't remember them all so you might want to take a look at the "getting started" video
In addition to being, "That guy," nobody likes the player who doesn't take the game seriously at all. These are generally people that are basically there to fuck with everyone, make dick / sex jokes whenever possible, (Especially when in combat) and / or make unrealistic one-move choices such as, "I kill everyone!"
+kaedan henderson I remember one of those guys, haha. We had like 10 people there (in 2 groups), and he was the only new guy. His great idea was becoming immediately horny for the initial bar wench, and continuing to obsess over her at every possible moment (even though we never returned to that place). I think one of the DMs eventually killed him off per his request, since he was bored. That's usually how such players end up anyways.
+kaedan henderson Honestly... There's not that much difference between the two.
If a character sucks, IMO, it's the duty of the players and DM to say so, especially if it gets ridiculous.
Do the characters, in-universe, want to kill the sucky character? Yes? Change the character, fuckface, before the characters murder you in your sleep. And honestly, fuck anybody who says "DUUUUUR YOU SHOULD LET PEOPLE EXPRESS THEMSELVES". Nobody I've run across who deserved to have their character killed had an original idea.
For example: the quirky mage/thief Minnie, the eunuch cleric crusader Mephie, the wiseguy gangsta Tommy, and... Iomier, the handsome serial killing assassin. First off... One of these things is not like the other. Sure, Minnie was a cunt towards evil people, Mephie crippled quite a few evil people, which, IMO, is worse, and Tommy was a gangster who tortured and killed people for not paying their extortion money on time. We were all ruthless motherfuckers who regularly indulged in drugs and drink who set aside our differences to protect our interests, which is why we shrugged at a Lawful Evil Assassin. We assumed the guy couldn't be that bad if he killed according to a code and hadn't been arrested yet, and so long as he kept his loyalty to us. Sadly, his code didn't prohibit assaulting bar wenches for fucking up an order, starting pointless fights with city guards that fucked with all of our business (his included), murdering officials we were wooing just to rob them of their purses, and other infuriatingly stupid things. Secondly, the guy was obviously Riddick from the Chronicles of Riddick. Dark glasses, glowing see-in-the-dark eyes, broody asshole, bald... Come on.
We talked about this in meta. We asked him to tone it the fuck down, please. He said, "OK, you guys are right." He didn't stop. He just stopped doing it in front of us. We didn't find out about this until later.
Then, the personal attacks began. He let Minnie know about his prejudices towards women (a smart thing to do towards an insanely powerful female mage with a penchant for violence) which were stupid even by the standards of D&D, he insulted Mephie's god because his god was better, and, most egregiously of all, he got a loan... From Tommy. A gangster WHO LOAN SHARKS FOR A LIVING. AND HE NEVER PAID IT BACK VOLUNTARILY.
The camel's back was broken by a three-layer stick: we found out about his continuing dickery to the locals, which he did behind our backs, fucking up the politics of the area in the name of his guild, which he did behind our backs so we couldn't profit from it either way, and we found out he killed... For pleasure. Not for business.
We were all disgusted, both at the pretentiousness and the total betrayal. We let Tommy take care of it, because we had an alignment to keep, while Tommy didn't. He tricked Archor or whatever his dumb name was into thinking he just wanted to talk about the loan, which Archor was paying in very small installments. Instead, he walked into an interrogation in a dark, dirty basement where nobody could hear him scream.The idiot, thinking he could get off by confessing to everything and giving Tommy his money, only made Tommy/Frank, his player, my friend, and a very tall, angry Italian, more angry.
Tommy, after more or less crippling the guy (he burned the guy's eyelashes off...), put him out of his misery by slitting his throat so deep he cut the guy's spinal chord, chopped the body up into pieces, and then fed him to the local poor in a suspiciously-tasting stew. Mmm. Evil assassin.
My favorite part was the epilogue:
Minnie: "Hey, Uncle Tommy, where's Archor? You said he was going with you on a job?"
Tommy: "Oh, yeah, that guy... Yeah, you won't be seeing him no more."
Mephie: "I hope his roads take him towards the light."
Actually, no, my favorite part was the player's excuse: "I was just role-playing."
Well, guess what. So were we.
There's also something to be said about being invested into the world of the game rather than the playing of the game at home. Think inside the head of your character, not your own. Do things that'd make sense for your character instead of what come to your head. Breaking out of the game with stuff like pop cultural referances, 4th wall breaking and meta-jokes, that's all fine and good when you take a break or occasionally real-talk OOC, but don't do that as your character, unless you are playing a very stupid, jokey campaign but even then, do it through you as a character and not you as a person. It takes the team out of it and breaks the immersion of the game.
That was a habit I had to scratch off, as I currently run through my first campaign with people. I'm born with a will to entertain. I throw around jokes alot, because I love seeing people around me having a good time and being happy. However, I would overstep those boundaries alot of the times and while team members laughed, it ultimately ended up weakening our investment in the game and have since a rather extreme case of this tried to cut down on it drastically and when I do joke, I try to keep it in the game and not start "memeing it" as one of my members would say.
The most creative thing I've done is climb inside a giant frog, cast thunderwave, and blow it up.
"Anyone who plays any elder scrolls game steals everything"
Actually i just kill everyone...I'm the OTHER that guy
I created a character for a campaign I'm going to host. He's a powerful character, yet is not the noble hero. He's a Han Solo type yet with more attachment.
He's the captain of a crew of space pirates and he watches after his crew as if it was a mother looking out for her children, but if anyone else has problems, he will ignore them.
I also made him mysterious but I made him light hearted. He's not like the "I have a really tragic backstory that I'll never talk about. Grrrr."
He's more like. "Your life was shit. I appeared and made it not shit. You whole heartily agreed and didn't ask any questions. You also don't know what I look like."
Which the last part is important since he's a wanted man and if anyone sees his face, he won't have an Identity to return to when all hell breaks loose.
He's like the anti-hero x superhero, with a motherly side.
I find that interesting.
+U1timate1nferno Hey man, it sounds like you are GMing. Here's a tip for ya: People will most likely not get to know that character, players have a tendency to just treat NPCs as ... well, NPCs. So be prepared to have your players ignore your awesome Han Solo and instead decide to thoroughly interrogate some random farmer they saw, eventually deciding to make him the next king or something. Also, if this NPC is to be a companion to the players' party, ensure that he doesn't end up an a DMPC, because that is rarely fun for anybody.
+Archerion I know. For the first bit he's going to be a companion then as the characters get stronger he's going to move on to other things when everyone can handle themselves, since it's a different story with new mechanics.
Besides they also can't ditch him since he's their only way of travel.
+U1timate1nferno I like when I hear about characters without tragic backstories I don't dislike Tragic backstories but I think they are way too over done. Most of my characters still have a mom and dad and home village and all that. unless something happens to them after the game starts they will have a home to got back too.
+U1timate1nferno
Be extremely careful about GMNPCs they "cannot ditch" that, on top of it, helps them 'when they can't handle themselves'. A lot of roleplayers get very, very, very annoyed at these. I'd honestly make him an option instead. A good one, certainly- but if you give options, you're making it better for everyone involved. If your players think they'd be stupid not to take his offer, they'll want him. If they feel they must, well...
+LaserLance125 GFS Not like a god powerful. He just has high stats. The statistics of a character all comes down to chance. I just got lucky when creating his and got high rolls.
What if you be a Meta Knight, rather than a meta player?"The DM wouldn't put a beholder in the cave at level 3" Well jokes on you there's 2 beholders now.
I love it when you make a video on D&D, thanks for D&D december! I'm currently playing as a 4 year old Aarakocra Shaman "witch doctor" (homebrew class and no my character isn't a child, Aarakocra are fully grown up by the age of 3 already), the class is a bit too powerful but we prepared with great care and every player who picked homebrew had a talk with our DM to balance it out and modify it when necessary. Like always there were so many great moments and even "running gags" started to develop like the group trying to convince our Dragonborn reaper (homebrew aswell, it's all from dandwiki) to read a book on propper behaviour since he always seems provicative towards strangers in cities... which might be because he's extremely paranoid since a misterious league of assassins had a hit on his head and he survived... and they can't tolerate him surviving their hit (it's part of his background and my character doesn't know anything detailed about the assassins). I live in Switzerland and because everyone here knows swissgerman but has also learned ordinary-german at school we actually talk normally in swiss german when we talk to eachother out of character but when it's in-character we talk in ordinary-german which really helps us to roleplay (which we love, i even have a personal journal with my characters notes, written fron his perspective. While playing i like to note down some stuff in-character). Anyway i just wanted to tell you how much i love D&D and your videos, you're awesome
This is perhaps one of the BEST informative videos for D&D players, new AND old. So many number crunchers and people who wan't to just own everything without faults and/or seek loopholes with spells/abilities. I know of a friend of a friend who plays like that and it's pitiful how much satisfaction he gets from trying to out do DM's and campaigns to basically solo them. *cringes in rage*. The experience, adventure, the ups & downs is what makes these so much more than just playing a numbers game.
This what I look forward to every week and just love these tales
I will often defend the Lone Wolf character archetype. Don't get me wrong, he's annoying to play around and he's definitely one of the versions of That Guy, but at least it's a _character._ D&D is all about escapism, finding a way to tap into an archetype you can't get away with in the real world, and for some people the brooding, angst-ridden loner is what they need. Getting on their case is kind of like getting on a player's case because they chose to be the bloodthirsty barbarian or wizard who wants to hurl fireballs at the first hint of a fight: those traits are annoying too, and aren't really in the spirit of cooperative play, but they are more accepted just because they're within the spirit of the game... but to some people who have to live in this world of constant interaction, they yearn just to be a little emo and that's their idea of fantasy. If it weren't, the stereotypical version of the Lone Wolf wouldn't be the main protagonist of, like, 90% of all anime ever. Personally, I don't understand why you'd want to do that, play that particular character in such a social game, but hey, I can accept I won't understand every person's main goals in life or in game.
...now, if they're the Lone Wolf who never, ever contributes, then that's totally That Guy and if you're playing one you need to shape up and realize that everyone hates you; but if you're still doing your job in the group, even if it is begrudgingly, then that's fine by me.
I agree with you
Plot twist, the Lone Wolf guy is secretly just super shy and acts like that because he wants no one to bother him
Thanks for the advice :) Just started playing with a bunch of friends and none of us have ever done this before. It's cool to see how passionate you are about the game. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Starting a campaign this Saturday (never met the guy who is going to DM, but from our talks he seems to have a lot of great ideas) It feels weird being the most experienced person at the table, but it's good to reinforce good playing habits, so I'm back here
Something tells me that any theatre or drama kid would love thia game...
"Don't be, THAT Guy" *Get's an ad and dies laughing*
Before I ever played, before stranger things, I watched these D&December videos and they entranced me. Now that I have a regular game, I find myself watching these again. I wish you'd do more D&December, but I'm glad this is still here.
I know others have said it before, but I just wanna say thank you, Jared. Your videos got me really interested in D&D and might actually help bring my old group of friends back together. I can't thank you enough.
Diath: He's not that kind of thief.
I asked for D&D starter kit for Christmas because of you Jared. Thanks :)
Good luck to you, man! You can't imagine how much fun and adventure awaits you!
+Isaiah Haddock its so fun man i hope u have fun!
I hope you love and enjoy your time in the land of D&D :D
thanks to all.
I got it for Chanukah... Playing with friends tomorrow!
I love that Jared addressed one of my favorite DnD tricks: making a flawed character. I love rolling my character out and then asking the DM to down some of my stats so I can give them interesting flaws and weaknesses. I played an evil druid recently and I cut my Dex Con and Strength hard on some good rolls so I could give him some stat line justification for his motivations while still building him the way I wanted to play. It's a nice twist to think about when you want to do a thing and want your character to reflect it.
Good advice, and that music! It takes me back! All the D&D RPG's on PC. Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights. So many memories.
And now, I'm going to play them all. Screw homework and class!
This sounds so right up my alley. But finding a group of strangers, getting invited and communicating with them is harder than fighting an actual dragon :(
Check out roll20.net/ you should be able to find a group through there.
An important thing to remember is: the dm is not your enemy! He is there to form the world but should not be your enemy.
Do not try things other people failed at without reason (someone checks for traps and find nothing bcs he only rolled mediocre and you decide (without reason) to check too)
Stealing from other players is ok IF you have a reason. Maybe someone else looted a crown and wants to keep it but you (bcs of your own story) are searching for a crown but cannot get it form the other player, then you can try to take it away.
+muligan I salute you sir
I sent this video to all my players. These are exactly the things I've been dying to draw out of them. Can't wait to see your how to be a good DM video.
"What does your character want" I was thinking about this question a lot when i made my first character earlier this year, and it all kept coming back to gold, but it was because of the story I wrote for her. She came from a family who took her in and who worked for their wealth, but never did anything with the money. They lived humbly, in an average house on the outskirts of a major city, her father was a fairly successful merchant who died when she was 17, leaving the money to her brother who died under mysterious circumastances. When the money was left to Valkaer, the bank took it, claiming that because she wasn't officially a family member, that the money wasn't hers.
That's why she wants money, she's on a rampage to get back whats hers, and that's one of her flaws, too. She immediately distrusts any form of bureaucracy, so much so that our second session ended with her getting thrown in jail for the night for nearly assaulting the mayor after he blamed her for starting a fight with a local gang.
LOL the add ends it cuts back to "BE THAT GUY!"
That Baldur's Gate 1 music in the background. Aww yeaaaa.
Jumpayh Bi-Ohmes
You are the first in over two years to recognize it. Well done!
+Ashvoreth BG1 music, then Neverwinter Nights 1 tavern music.
I loved this series man, you gotta do more like it!
I just started my first campaign last week, and took a lot of your advice. The experienced players were surprised at how well I did for a newcomer, saying I was more involved and knowledgeable about the game than the usual noobs. Looking forward to our next meet
How can being a lone wolf be interesting in any way? I'm trying to work out how secluding yourself like that can be enjoyable for anyone.
+DiscoClam I once gave it a try in a campaign the party wasn't really interested in. It ended up turning my character into a antagonist to the party. It was fun and everyone had a good time. I didn't have much time in sessions, but I was good with waiting and I'm not one to check my phone. It can be interesting, but if anyone tried to do that in a engaging campaign it would take huge hurdles for the DM and that player to end up making that work.
+DiscoClam Some of the people who enjoy reading books or watching movies about such a "lone wolf" hero think it would be fun to re-live such a character themselves. Being a solo guy who can overcome anything just like in fantasy. They of course fail to take into account that D&D isn't designed for that type of play, and they quickly ruin the fun for everyone :/
xXIxidor92Xx I will say that I have played with one player if anyone is interested with the lone style. I would say this would be the best way to attempt to try this style. It really doesn't have much place in standard games.
+DiscoClam It requires a bit of inta-party management. It can work as long as the lone wolf in question will still work as a team.
He can complain about it though, i.e. "Well, I didn't need your help/I could've done that myself". Abrasive is fun. Abrasive gives character. Just don't overdo it and refuse to work with anyone.
Besides, a true lone wolf would've never agreed to go with the party anyway. "I work alone" "So why did you come with us?"
Even Snipers work in pairs and they're the worst I've seen for this (mostly by people who don't realise that Snipers still work in teams >.>)
+DiscoClam One time I played this kind of character, but not the stereotypical kind that is actually dark and brooding and wanting to go it alone, but just acting the part. Kind of like a goth kid growing out of that awkward phase. I forget what class he was, but he was a super buff elf with long black hair, eye shadow, and a huge cowl that turned him into this huge broody mess. In instances where the party was in between adventures and chilling at the tavern in town, there'd he'd be, sitting in the corner by himself. But then he'd hear something that would peak his interest, maybe someone bad-mouthing him, or they were talking about where they'd head next and he'd be curious. Whatever the case, at first he'd stay silent, but he'd keep edging over in his chair when no-one was looking and then when he was at the table with them, he'd wait for an opportunity to speak. "I TOTALLY THINK WE SHOULD GO TO THIS PLACE NEXT GUYS" Or whatever thought he had on his mind. He'd just say it in this awkwardly loud, kind of squeaky voice, everyone would look at him like he'd killed their first born and he'd shrink away again.
After a few of these encounters, things actually got interesting. I never told anyone out of character why he acted this way or anything and whenever anyone did ask me, I always told them. "If he interests you, why don't you ask him yourself?" This lead to a heartfelt conversation with the rest of the group sort of confronting him in character asking him why he was so freaking weird. This is where he broke down and explained about how this was how everyone in his tribe acted. Back home he was SO popular and cool and shit and he didn't understand why no-one ever payed attention to him outside of that setting. "THIS IS ALL I KNOW" In that squeaky, too-loud voice. Crocodile tears, mascara running down his face, basically the ugliest crying you could imagine. They group hugged him and welcomed him to the team properly.
From there, he began to change. Started to gradually talk in a more even and controlled voice, sat with the group from the start, eventually even threw away his cowl, because he didn't need it anymore.
A tired cliche of a character can be amazing if you put a unique spin on it. At the end of the day, a true lone wolf has no reason to work with the party, so you need a logical reason to make it work, or a crapton of OOC talk.
9:20 Funnily enough, I'm about to play my first Tabletop RPG (D&D 5e with the Planeshift: Innistrad expansion) and made a Trickster Cleric with the Urchin background and his main goal is: I want money, though at least I have a rather funny reason. He was a street urchin almost ready to kill himself to get some peace before finding Avacyn's (The once archangel of order, now bat shit insane killing machine) teachings and misinterpreting her rule of order as gold because he's noticed that those without gold lack order. So now he proclaims himself a Cleric of Avacyn, and rambles on about his love of/need of/general worship of 'Order' while using 'Order' to gold 90% of the time.
I really hope DNDcember comes back this year. This was great Jared. As a fellow avid DND fan I love these videos and they bring back great memories.
I love how all these D&December videos are based around D&D but still have a lot of good advice and ideas for other games.
You want interesting? Be a fighter multiclass into Barbarian. Roleplay the first time you rage. Attack whoever's closest, even if it's a party member.
That's fun, right? Right?
^that guy
I think that while that is an interesting choice, you would have to tell that to the people you're playing with, because it can be seen as annoying and unhelpful.
I really haven't played much D&D, but every time I have played there's been that one "lone wolf" player off in the corner brooding. I always wonder why they do it.
Probably why I liked the D&D on Node so much is the enthusiasm into it.
I just started playing DND with my friend whose been playing for a while, and I find it super fun. My first (and only) character, Rixiron the Paladin Half-Elf, was a Hermit, and only wants to really help people as much as possible throughout his life, because someone he loved broke his heart (which is *also* why he is a Hermit) so he decided to keep for himself in solitude until now. He wants to be as friendly as possible (his Charisma is his highest) but he doesn't just trust anyone. He's also kind of strong when it comes to combat (2nd highest is Strength). Anyways, this video is pretty helpful for new players like myself. Thanks!
My DnD character has 20 charisma but is impotent.
Cant wait for the new d&december
I somehow missed this one last year, but man, what a good video.
I like the the fact that your rogue never stole. Doing the unexpected is always a lot of fun. I had a catfolk wizard who had really high dex because he loved to steal things. Well, cheese. He stole cheese, specifically. Cause fancy cheese = prestige to him. He was a lot of fun to play.
I was once DMing a game with a character who was one of those "steal everything" characters. There was one point where the party was dealing with a witch, and so he decided to sneak off and not deal with the boss fight and instead just loot the witch's hut. He wanted to take every single potion off her shelves, so for a while I struggled for a bit thinking "how am I gonna implement this and make it matter." And so I eventually came up with turning all the potions he stole into an item he can use. It was a big ol bag of potions, and at any time, if he wanted to, he could pull out a potion from the bag and throw it at an enemy. He would roll a d20 and I had a list on me of the 20 possible effects it could have on the enemy. It could range anywhere from poisoning the enemy, to setting the enemy on fire, to even healing or powering up the enemy (which meant he could even try gambling with trying to get good potion effects on his own team mates). I admit it definitely encouraged his greedy behavior, but I'm pretty happy with how it ended up making the game much more interesting.
I remember one character I made, he was a Berserker named Guy Guy.
Guy Guy is from a family of conquerors and the family states that you must own something before you are a actual member of the family.
Guy Guy was great. My rolls were weird as shit and I had stupid high strength and with that strength I had a stupid high grapple. Granted I had an axe but who gives a shit about an axe when I can grapple foes to death. So anyways in my skills I put tons in disguise to where it would work. I know its weird, he was a throw away character because it was supposed to be a short just short play kinda game.
Anyways I started off in a tavern getting a job to slay a few goblins and to meet my fellow companion of a female elf bard. Who with her high charisma got us more gold for the job. So Me and my elf friend go to the cave where they are goblins only to find out that the cave is actually home to Orcs. Now I decided to play how Guy Guy was more street smart then book smart so he said "Orcs like taking women right? So let me disguise myself as an orc to bypass the guards infront of the cave."
Well lets just say it worked seeing as I roll like a 16 and my disguise skill was like 10. So I just became on orc, grabbed my elf companion over my shoulder and walked on in. I go down to the orc leader and then challenge him to a wrestling match for leadership, well with my grapple so high I snap his neck like that. Sadly the whole to win leadership thing did not work out so well and about 30 orcs came after us. So instead of trying to take on all of them I just grabbed the dead leader and the elf and ran out. We made it and collapsed the cave just in time. We later came back to the village and got about 300 gold each due to the tavern owner lying to us. God that was fun, too bad we have not had the time to continue that.
Reading comments like this makes me want to start playing D&D but I need a mic as I have no friends who play D&D
+HiiPER MaaDMaan Convince them; it's definitely more fun with friends
I tried but they are farmers and CoD fans they don't hate D&D they just won't play it
actually at 16:02 i disagree. I think being a character who steals a lot of stuff or a lone wolf can be fun, if done correctly. Like if you want to be a lone wolf i think thats fine, but do what your character would do and not just what you think is cool.
It's been a few rounds bout the block, since I've seen this vid back in the day, and now, I've been a dm for a few years, and that "don't make the best character" tip is overstated. You can absolutely make the best character AND make em interesting. Stats and mechanics aren't the main thing about a character; CHARACTER is important too.
in a videogame you're trying to mechanicaly get stronger, to get bigger numbers and stranger items, and its fun!...
but DnD its about having fun with interseting situations, having fun failing, having fun discovering something you didnt know the DM was preparing for you, having fun creating and beeing creative
Good advice.
With the best moments always being fails. That isn't true always. one time we were in cages and my character stuck a knife into the lock and it unlocked. he didnt do anything else but that
How to be a good player: Don't be a metagaming murder hobo jerk, and don't be an uninvested potato
As a DM, I encourage my players to take notes, specifically about what happened from their subjective perspective as a player and as their character. What you percieved or experienced might have been different from what other characters saw and experienced, and there are usually good roleplaying opportunities there.
Also as a DM it lets me know what plots and NPCS the players are interested in.
I was blessed with a DM when I began playing that would always describe what the enemies did. I was also one of those players that loved to describe the things I did. It does make the game a lot more enjoyable.