All you have to do to remove the plastic plugs is to get a flat screwdriver and depress the metal clip under the crimped connector and pull ! It's so easy to remove them and faster than what you are doing now , breaking your equipment !
Thanks for the info, I was not expecting the plastic to be so flexible, I figured it would be brittle and might just crack. lol Im actual gonna keep some to make a quick connect jumper cables for my 2 f350'S
Great video, I have the same type of granulator and I've tried many different ways to separate the copper and plastic the best thing I found was a wire mesh office type garbage can attach to a low speed rotating motor at about a 45-degree angle just let it rotate and Tumble and the copper comes through in plastic season the basket, I usually granulate wire 16 gauge on up to 24 and comucation cable
Interesting - I could use some more clarity on how you're separating the plastic from the copper. Do you know how much plastic is left over in the copper OR how much copper is lost in the plastic waste?
Shark, I was just Introducing the granulator to the channel playing with a leaf blower in this video. Here is a video I made showing how I use to separate the plastic and copper. Look through my videos for "home made water sluice" I think there are 3 total. This was a experimental I was doing just to prove the concept and see if I can build it out of scrap. I learned a lot and am going to be building a new one very soon. It's going to be awesome. On the recovery I never really checked because I was just trying to see if I could actually do it with water. But I talked to some big time choppers and they said they can loose up to 3% in the insulation. I have a idea to recover ALL the copper. As soon as I get the 3 phase hooked up for the mill and lathe I will be building something really incredible. At least that's what I see in my head. lol Thanks for watching th-cam.com/video/Xn9CT9Q803M/w-d-xo.html
Blades aren't ruined. They just need to be hard face welded then ground. I'm jealous! Been looking for a good deal on one of those! Keep doing what you do!!
nice! was waiting for this video! i think you should make a cover for the blades to keep stuff from flying out and for safety and maybe like a feeding system to a hole on the cover
Hi Mate, I am intending to scrap copper mainly from car harness(Car wiring looms). I was wondering if you have done these kinds of wires before and how much was the recovery ratio.
that's how some people.mine gold in Australia when there is not water around. they use a shacker table with air blowing through the table to blow the dirty away and only the gold is left.
I have cleaned 1,000's of the connectors for Battery Backup"s and Fork Lift Batteries, I found the easy have to clean the is to put in a vice and with a flat tip screwdriver push down the spring steel lock and the cable end will pull out, Scott Huffman, Reliable Recycling, Inc., Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Looks like a very useful way to get the Cu reocvered. I do think the air blowing plus some way of having the wire/plastic falling off a conveyor belt system could separate the plastic from the Cu after you machine does the initial chopping/separattion.. Very interesting.
I just had an idea: Years ago I made an "air classifier" that was basically just a 10hp insulation vacuum (a 5-8hp walk behind blower would work alternatively) and the discharge was connected to what's known as "lay flat" which is basically a clear plastic tubing on a roll that inflates into a 14" tube from the blower. You put a piece of filter on the end of the tube to create back pressure and then everything you suck into the intake is classified by density. The copper and other metals will accumulate in the first 5-10 foot of tube sorted by density, and the plastic granulate will be further along the tube. Just throwing it out there.
I think he could use a chaff separator Like the ones that they use on a farm to separate chaff from grain. They’re pretty adjustable and you might be able to get one cheap at a farm auction
@@caseyspringston7124 That's a great idea. I had my idea because while vacuuming out insulation we ran out of the giant cloth collector bags, so we used 100 feet of lay flat tubing instead, and I noticed it had separated all the nails, roof grit, and insulation by density. It was rather neat to see and I've always wondered about another purpose for that.
That sound cool. I will be using a water cyclone and a sluice. I was trying something similar with the leaf blower but made a mess. I saw a guy just put a fan behind the granulator and blow the plastic further than the copper witch is almost what you described minus the tube. I like that idea and might try it on video. Thanks for the suggestion.
Wow, it really looks like it’s just raining copper inside this granulator 😂 I was thinking about getting one as well, sadly they are either extremely expensive or very far away from where I live, or both 😅 What would you say as far as the production rate goes, is it possible to get a similar amount per hour with a good wire stripper, or is a granulator always superior?
I wire stripper is better and cheaper. I have the granulator for small wire and plan on having a pre shredder and a sluice going all at once.
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@@ProjectShopFl Sounds great, what would you say about also including a hammermill into that setup, so that you wouldn’t have to take apart smaller electronics and could still recover all the copper from them? I also really appreciate that you take the time to answer all the comments 👍
Shooting a idea here. Why not have that set up after you strip the wires to gain more room in the barrels? Not having to cut in small chunks if already done for stripping.
You would loose money. The bare bright wire is worth more than the chops, you would be spending money to downgrade the copper. You only want to chop small wire to tedious to strip usually running a pre shredder in advance. Strip the bigger stuff.
Hello from Sweden again. That first run you did there is what I would call "Rather Hazardous to your Health" to put it in an academic way🤣 Anyway,, that looks like a good setup. Wire takes up less space and the bucket is heavier.
You might get a variable speed fan and blow it as it's falling from the screen. Then water sluice it with little if any plastic remaining. It's odd how it cycles the debris inside with the blades offset. Any idea about that? Maybe the screen is bowing from a build up.... Awesome machine.
Thanks, I was actually trying with a leaf blower. lol The wire stays inside and gets chopped many times and thrown up until its small enough to fit the holes. I made a smaller plate and hand drilled the holes because the cadge that came with it had to big of holes. I fixed it with a pice of scrap for free when I was told the screens are $600. lol I wish I made more videos of the original set up, but don't worry the next one is gonna blow it away. Thanks for watching and all your comments
Almost like my granulator i only have a shaker table on it that seperates copper and plastic and next week we are going to fix my pre shredder so hopefully i can start processing big volumes
@@ProjectShopFl its a second hand machine i bought it for 4500 euro and maybe another 1500 in labor and parts but when its finished ill send some pictures and video to youre facebook page
I made a granulator for small wire from a wood jointer. I have yet to find a good way to separate the wire from the insulation. I've tried screening it but I still get insulation mixed with the copper. I've searched youtube and still have not found a good way to separate the insulation from the copper. I would like to do it dry. No one really explains how to do it wet or dry.
I like that idea, Im gonna have a pre shredder I wonder if I can make an amp gauge shut it off or slow it down. Definitely gonna explore that. thanks for the awesome suggestion.
Talk with smaller industrial electrical contractors. They get jobs doing all the lights in a parking lot or wiring a Walmart or things like that and will always have scraps and remnants on their yard. Usually they wait until it gets too in the way and they call someone's brothers uncle who does what our man here does.
@@Storyholder23 thanks man I really appreciate that advice. I've been looking and looking. But yeah I think I'll make some phone calls and see what I come up with. Thanks again.
A good source for contacts is the Kelly Blue Book for contractors. You'd be better to call in area codes in big cities. Good luck and thanks for watching.
All you have to do to remove the plastic plugs is to get a flat screwdriver and depress the metal clip under the crimped connector and pull ! It's so easy to remove them and faster than what you are doing now , breaking your equipment !
Yep, vice and a decent sized flathead and your in. Lol
Thanks for the info, I was not expecting the plastic to be so flexible, I figured it would be brittle and might just crack. lol Im actual gonna keep some to make a quick connect jumper cables for my 2 f350'S
@@adamluke1289 Thanks
@@cjab111 Thanks
Used Andersons easily get 10 dollars a piece with the lugs.
Great video, I have the same type of granulator and I've tried many different ways to separate the copper and plastic the best thing I found was a wire mesh office type garbage can attach to a low speed rotating motor at about a 45-degree angle just let it rotate and Tumble and the copper comes through in plastic season the basket, I usually granulate wire 16 gauge on up to 24 and comucation cable
This is how I do it.
th-cam.com/video/Xn9CT9Q803M/w-d-xo.html
Interesting - I could use some more clarity on how you're separating the plastic from the copper. Do you know how much plastic is left over in the copper OR how much copper is lost in the plastic waste?
Shark, I was just Introducing the granulator to the channel playing with a leaf blower in this video. Here is a video I made showing how I use to separate the plastic and copper. Look through my videos for "home made water sluice" I think there are 3 total. This was a experimental I was doing just to prove the concept and see if I can build it out of scrap. I learned a lot and am going to be building a new one very soon. It's going to be awesome. On the recovery I never really checked because I was just trying to see if I could actually do it with water. But I talked to some big time choppers and they said they can loose up to 3% in the insulation. I have a idea to recover ALL the copper. As soon as I get the 3 phase hooked up for the mill and lathe I will be building something really incredible. At least that's what I see in my head. lol Thanks for watching
th-cam.com/video/Xn9CT9Q803M/w-d-xo.html
@@ProjectShopFl Awesome, thanks for the detailed response and link
Blades aren't ruined. They just need to be hard face welded then ground. I'm jealous! Been looking for a good deal on one of those! Keep doing what you do!!
Thanks for the info! 👊
Best video I seen yet to really give a good look as how to do it. Thanks
Glad it helped
nice! was waiting for this video! i think you should make a cover for the blades to keep stuff from flying out and for safety and maybe like a feeding system to a hole on the cover
Did you not see it has a cover? It works great. lol Thanks for watching.
Hi Mate,
I am intending to scrap copper mainly from car harness(Car wiring looms). I was wondering if you have done these kinds of wires before and how much was the recovery ratio.
I usually just set them as is with all the tape, coatings, and plugs for #2 insulated copper wire.
that's how some people.mine gold in Australia when there is not water around. they use a shacker table with air blowing through the table to blow the dirty away and only the gold is left.
I've seen them doing that, looks like a mess. lol
I have cleaned 1,000's of the connectors for Battery Backup"s and Fork Lift Batteries, I found the easy have to clean the is to put in a vice and with a flat tip screwdriver push down the spring steel lock and the cable end will pull out, Scott Huffman, Reliable Recycling, Inc., Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Thanks for the info!
Looks like a very useful way to get the Cu reocvered. I do think the air blowing plus some way of having the wire/plastic falling off a conveyor belt system could separate the plastic from the Cu after you machine does the initial chopping/separattion.. Very interesting.
This was how I did It before, I will be upgrading what I had.
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Good mashine par iska copper or pilastik sab mix gir raha hai isko alag keyse kare
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I just had an idea: Years ago I made an "air classifier" that was basically just a 10hp insulation vacuum (a 5-8hp walk behind blower would work alternatively) and the discharge was connected to what's known as "lay flat" which is basically a clear plastic tubing on a roll that inflates into a 14" tube from the blower. You put a piece of filter on the end of the tube to create back pressure and then everything you suck into the intake is classified by density. The copper and other metals will accumulate in the first 5-10 foot of tube sorted by density, and the plastic granulate will be further along the tube. Just throwing it out there.
I think he could use a chaff separator Like the ones that they use on a farm to separate chaff from grain. They’re pretty adjustable and you might be able to get one cheap at a farm auction
@@caseyspringston7124 That's a great idea. I had my idea because while vacuuming out insulation we ran out of the giant cloth collector bags, so we used 100 feet of lay flat tubing instead, and I noticed it had separated all the nails, roof grit, and insulation by density. It was rather neat to see and I've always wondered about another purpose for that.
That sound cool. I will be using a water cyclone and a sluice. I was trying something similar with the leaf blower but made a mess. I saw a guy just put a fan behind the granulator and blow the plastic further than the copper witch is almost what you described minus the tube. I like that idea and might try it on video. Thanks for the suggestion.
Thanks for the suggestion I will look in to that.
Sounds cool, thanks for sharing.
Wow, it really looks like it’s just raining copper inside this granulator 😂 I was thinking about getting one as well, sadly they are either extremely expensive or very far away from where I live, or both 😅 What would you say as far as the production rate goes, is it possible to get a similar amount per hour with a good wire stripper, or is a granulator always superior?
I wire stripper is better and cheaper. I have the granulator for small wire and plan on having a pre shredder and a sluice going all at once.
@@ProjectShopFl Sounds great, what would you say about also including a hammermill into that setup, so that you wouldn’t have to take apart smaller electronics and could still recover all the copper from them? I also really appreciate that you take the time to answer all the comments 👍
Shooting a idea here. Why not have that set up after you strip the wires to gain more room in the barrels? Not having to cut in small chunks if already done for stripping.
You would loose money. The bare bright wire is worth more than the chops, you would be spending money to downgrade the copper. You only want to chop small wire to tedious to strip usually running a pre shredder in advance. Strip the bigger stuff.
wise decision to wear that but basically thats nonsalable ?
What do you mean I sell bucks of chops
@@ProjectShopFl whats that go for like #2 ?
Hello from Sweden again.
That first run you did there is what I would call "Rather Hazardous to your Health" to put it in an academic way🤣
Anyway,, that looks like a good setup. Wire takes up less space and the bucket is heavier.
When I'm finished It will be automatic from beginning to end. Thanks for watching.
Iam here nice work my friend!
Thanks
Doesn't just pop out with a screwdriver like all anderson style plugs?
Yes.lol
And why the granular machine? Seems like a LOUD waste of time.
It is loud, but with the right set up it will be extremely useful.
Hey Chris is back! Long time since yall been together on here, can't wait to see what cool stuff you guys do together!
Thanks, me too. lol
I wonder if it was frozen would the plastic be more brittle
Thats a good idea, might even help with burnt wire. lol
That's awesome man!!
Thanks
Powerful and crazy dangerous machines, copper flying absolutely everywhere, this is what we subscribe to your chanel for!! 😃
Haha, Thanks
You might get a variable speed fan and blow it as it's falling from the screen. Then water sluice it with little if any plastic remaining. It's odd how it cycles the debris inside with the blades offset. Any idea about that? Maybe the screen is bowing from a build up.... Awesome machine.
Thanks, I was actually trying with a leaf blower. lol The wire stays inside and gets chopped many times and thrown up until its small enough to fit the holes. I made a smaller plate and hand drilled the holes because the cadge that came with it had to big of holes. I fixed it with a pice of scrap for free when I was told the screens are $600. lol I wish I made more videos of the original set up, but don't worry the next one is gonna blow it away. Thanks for watching and all your comments
love that chipping machine
Me too. haha
I've been waiting for this video!
More coming.
What mesh you use? At the riddle
I think it's 1/8 inch
Safety my ass! Have not laughed like that in at least week.
Haha, Thanks for watching.
This seems like a big hassle compared to the wire stripper
Depends on the setup and what you are processing.
woow crazy mashine but works realy good ;)
great video
Thanks 👍
@@ProjectShopFl ;)
looks like a good way to lose an eye personally I really like the frankensluice
Haha, I was just playing, I will be making a upgraded Frankensluice.
Very interesting video
Thanks
Almost like my granulator i only have a shaker table on it that seperates copper and plastic and next week we are going to fix my pre shredder so hopefully i can start processing big volumes
I'd like to see a video on that. Especially the pre shredder/Cost?
@@ProjectShopFl its a second hand machine i bought it for 4500 euro and maybe another 1500 in labor and parts but when its finished ill send some pictures and video to youre facebook page
There is an easier way to remove the Anderson plugs. Put a flat tip screw driver in the front and push the spring plate down and pull the cable out.
Thanks that works great. lol
I made a granulator for small wire from a wood jointer. I have yet to find a good way to separate the wire from the insulation. I've tried screening it but I still get insulation mixed with the copper. I've searched youtube and still have not found a good way to separate the insulation from the copper. I would like to do it dry. No one really explains how to do it wet or dry.
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Thank you for your reply. I don't have room for a set up like that right now.
Wouldnt be better to cut/crush using the hammer under the press ?
Cut/crush what?
Is there anything still in the works with this, or are you going a different route?
Yes I will be working on it soon.
I think a band saw would be better/quicker on those red Anderson plugs..
Thanks for the suggestion
I wonder if an amp gauge could control a belt driven feeder conveyor to slow down if the load is high. Everyone else wonder how lazy I may be 🤣
I like that idea, Im gonna have a pre shredder I wonder if I can make an amp gauge shut it off or slow it down. Definitely gonna explore that. thanks for the awesome suggestion.
I would like to know where you guys buy all this wire from. I'm in maryland and I don't know of any auctions or anything like that.
Talk with smaller industrial electrical contractors. They get jobs doing all the lights in a parking lot or wiring a Walmart or things like that and will always have scraps and remnants on their yard. Usually they wait until it gets too in the way and they call someone's brothers uncle who does what our man here does.
@@Storyholder23 thanks man I really appreciate that advice. I've been looking and looking. But yeah I think I'll make some phone calls and see what I come up with. Thanks again.
A good source for contacts is the Kelly Blue Book for contractors. You'd be better to call in area codes in big cities. Good luck and thanks for watching.
Thanks, Good info.
Where would a guy source the blades I want to build something on the farm
You can buy them. These are $6-700 apiece and there are 7 of them. lol If you are making one your self look for wood chipper blades might be cheeper.
@@ProjectShopFl great idea thanks
insert a flat screwdriver from the back in the alderson connector(red) and the cable will come out.
Thanks that worked great.
I would use a cyclonic separator for plastic and copper.
I'm building a hydro cyclone for it.
I see lots of that wire gets thrown outside you need to build something so it does not get tossed out or maybe slow your knives down ...
I actually need to make it faster and it has all the guards.
Heat to loosen. Not good, I think. Smells and cost. Better would be an modified ax and a V shaped wide. Right thur it
Thanks for the suggestion
Those just clip in you use a flathead screw driver and pry on the tab and it comes off
Thanks for the info
Ilee mm stio?
Englis please
@@ProjectShopFl How many mm is a sieve in a cable mill?
Awesome could do with one of these
I got some cool upgrades coming for it. Thanks for watching.
Solo tienes q botar los seguros q llevan dentro y no estar aplastando el plastico😂😂
English?
A cutting wheel would have that off in seconds why are you using a press 🤔
I thought it would be brittle, definitely not. lol
love iT
Thanks
you do know there is just a clip you can release with a screwdriver and the wires come out lol
I do now. lol
I hope you read the comments left after each video ! Don't use your" jaws
Oops ! Of life " to try and break the battery plug end , you will just be wasting time that way.
Thanks
Det tager kun 3sikunter at pille dem ud rigtig 🙈
Thanks for the suggestion
Wire stripper is best
Depends on what you are stripping.
Seems like all your profit is going to the electric bills.pull the clip out.
I don't pay for electric. lol
Invest in an electric cable/wire stripper machine
You should watch my other videos, I have one of the best strippers you can get. lol
It's like a hammer mill and a shredder at once. 👍
Kinda. I will be getting a hammer, mill.
Lol I think you might be better off to strip it instead
Depends on the wire.
@@ProjectShopFl love your channel, keep the good videos coming!
nice job man grt belgium
Thanks
New Jersey
Thanks
Come on mate just pulling those plugs apart with manual tools is easy enough
I eventually did, but I figured It would be brittle and crack. That was supper plastic! lol
YUCCH WHAT A MESS. THIS IS NOT PUTTING YOUR BEST FOOT FORWARD.
Thanks for the feedback
Soak in water cu sinks plastic floats
Thanks for the suggestion you should watch my videos on the water sluice I built.
I stand corrected...I wonder if you put a little dawn dishwasher liquid in it would it help make it float better
First viewer
Thanks! lol
next time do yourself a favor, put those red plastic connectors in the freezer for a while then they will crack right apart
Thanks for the suggestion
you could say you had a blast
Haha, yes, Thanks for watching.