The Kids Aren't Alright | Hollyoaks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- Mandy finds out that Ella was the one who killed Jordan, while Darren and Nancy come to terms with Charlie facing a murder sentence.
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I think this is the most we heard them speak to each other lol
That's so true they never talk to each other. But Mandy is trying to build up her career.
😂😂 ikr
@@gretacorveta7179 the actress does her best acting when she’s a concerned mum so Idk why they make her the ditzy one lol
Ikr
I think with Darren's depression storyline and DJ's problems they have been ignoring this relationship for a long time. I am actually trying to remember before the New Years eve episode when the last time they had a scene together was.
I feel bad for Nancy stabbed by that drug dealer losing her baby,losing Kyle,possibly seeing Charlie go to prison.The Parents should be blaming Victor not fighting with each other.
Yes, and Darren is always so stupid. They both raised Charlie in the past.
Eh Victor didn't force them into the drug gang in the first place. These kids chose to get into drug dealing in the first place. All victor did was not let them leave but he didn't force them into the business
@@grantmcroberts4089 Juliet groomed Charlie
juliet and sid recruited them in the first place. however, sid was trying to get out long before that. juliet’s the real scumbag along with jordan and victor
Mandy is so annoying. She's talking about pinning it on Charlie when Charlie did that to help her daughter. Instead now Mandy is telling her not to take responsibility for what she did
Yes, it´s so selfish but she can´t face up to reality. She should go to the police with Ella and let the police listen to Ellas story.
Ann-Christine Nilsson she wouldn’t even get that big a punishment she’d be out in a rehabilitation centre no record
Shouldn't some pc plod take some finger prints from the knife? Also Charlie is taller than Ella and the wound might be at a different angle?
@@benmackarel295 I don´t know the consequences but you must face up to the consequences and the truth will come out sooner or later and the sooner the better. All these adults not acting as grown ups is often the biggest problem. Mandy and Darren are both very selfish and stupid. Nancy is also stupid but I do feel more for her and all her problems through the year.
@@KW-ro5ow Charlie put the knife back in the kitchen so his fingerprints are on it just as Ellas. The only decent thing is to tell the truth.
This is gonna lead to Darren and Mandy’s breakup when the truth comes out
I hope so
In a few years yeah because that's how long until bombshells get dropped in these kind of storylines
I just hope that Darren and Nancy get back together
@@donnamcknight958 Likewise!!!!
Elijah Mbila I hope so I miss #Dancy!!!! 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔
Ella: Your not going to tell the police what I did?
Also Ella: But that's not fair on Charlie!
Me: make up your mind girl!
This is the start of the Dancy reunion. Don't think they'll be happy to know Mandy has no problem throwing Charlie under the bus.
Eh Charlie threw himself under the bus he was the one that confessed to the police saying he did it. Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut and let the police do the job and then they would have evidence
And also why should she protect someone else child and not her own. Her daughter is her priority
@@grantmcroberts4089 because charlie is also TECHNICALLY darren’s. if she wants a life with darren, mandy should love and protect his child as her own.
Haha as if Nancy would or should ever take Darren back after what he has done to her. Also just cos Mandy lied about this doesn’t automatically mean a reunion for Darren and Nancy. It might break Darren and Mandy up but that doesn’t mean a dancy reunion will happen. And we don’t know how long she will keep this secret anyway. It might be a case she feels guilty in the next episode we see and tells Darren everything. Who knows!! Also dancy made an awful couple. Darren himself admitted to being miserable for months before they broke up. I don’t know why ppl would want them back together.
@@Dumdumblonde soaps - anything can happen. But they love to split couples, get back together and do it all over again a few years later. I think the new producer starts soon so there could be changes in store.
Ella should own up and tell the police what she did. It's not Charlie's fault at all. I still haven't forgiven Darren for cheating on Nancy.
No Charlie's fault maybe if he hadn't got into drug dealing and got Ella into it then he would not have been in the mess in the first place. Also he made the confession so it is his fault if he had kept his mouth shut and not touched the weapon he would not be in jail right now
@@grantmcroberts4089 Charlie is only a child and don´t understand the consequences. And now he only wanted to protect Ella as she stopped the dangerous situation by stabbing Jordan in the back. She is also a child and didn´t understand the consequences of her actions. This is very obvious.
What has darren cheating on nancy have to do with this story though? Yes Ella should own up, Charlie should tell the truth and so should Mandy. But when it comes down to it this is none of their fault. The fault lies with the people who manipulated kids into dealing drugs.
Why is Mandy letting charile take the blame that’s really not fair
Cause she is selfish
@@scarlett_1355 yh especially when kyle needed help she told darren to leave him to deal with his own problems
I acc hate mandy so much she's just so irritating
@@randomrandomperson6514 exactly!
I guess people would do anything for their children
I hope Charlie gets out, mandi is annoying me now
What did Mandy do?
@@elloguvna6820 mandy know that Charlie didn't do it so instead of reporting this to the police she is gonna keep it a secret making charlie stay in prison for a crime he did not commit
It’s not Mandy’s fault she’s protecting her child
@@zVoltaze she’s protecting her kid
@@elloguvna6820 how tho ?
not the BTS line😭😭..
I was looking to see if anybody commented about it😂😭
Me too. And I love BTS a lot espically Jungkook and Suga, they are well fit
@@donnamcknight958 I’m more of a #Directioner and a #Rusher fan but I actually do love BTS’s song Dynamite 🧨 (Get it with the emoji? 😉) and I still support everyone else who’s a fan of BTS. Also when I was watching the December 30th first look episode on this TH-cam channel @UK Flix and I head the song 🎵”This Town”🎵 I was crying with tears of joy 😂! I love and miss #OneDirection and #BTR though!!!!
Cause ah ah I’m in the stars tonight.
So watch me bring the fire.
And set the night alight.
periodt ella listens to the right music
“What is a trap house” 😂😂😂😂
It’s called a bag house actually
@@benmackarel295 What’s a bag house Ben???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
As Ella just explained its where they hold n bag up the drugs
I swear if they let Charlie go down for this when it was Ella
Eh Charlie made the confession of course he is going to get sent down
innit ill b proper annoyed
He confessed so if he doesn't tell the truth soon there is every chance.
Wonder what's going to happen when Nancy and Darren find out that Ella was the one who stabbed Jordan and that Mady knew it was her.
Hopefully gets. Nancy and Darren close f*CK Mandy 🤣
Well the answer would be obvious all hell would break loose
Jack Young Hopefully #Dancy and #Landy will get back together again (especially before Luke dies)!!!! 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
@@levirobb1013 How many Years does Luke have until he dies Levi???? 😧😧😧😧
@@levirobb1013 Okay thanks anyway Levi. ☺️☺️☺️☺️🤗🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️
I feel bad for Charlie
Same
@Ese Uduehi mhm
JK247 Likewise! 😔😔😔😔 I hope he’ll get out and Ella’ll tell Darren, George, Jack, Juliet, Leah, Leela, Nancy, Oscar, Peri, Sidney and Ste that she (Ella) killed Jordan not Charlie! 😟😟😟😟🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 What do you think???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@ChelseyLinden idk
@@ChelseyLinden lol
I think this is the storyline that will bring Darren back with Nancy. Mandy is going to lie and cover up Ella being the culprit and once Darren finds out Mandy knows it Ella and not Charlie and she continued to pin it on his boy it’s not going to end well for Mandy and especially once Nancy finds out too. Can’t wait for Darren and Nancy to find out now Mandy is involved with the cover up
Darren and Nancy were so cute together but he is horrible to Nancy and doesn’t deserve to get back with Nancy☹️
Well nancy would be an idiot to take him back after everything he did to her. Also if mandy and darren do break up (we don't know that they will) it doesn't mean darren and nancy will get back together or that they should. If your partner cheated on you not once but twice, dealt drugs, lied, gambled all the way through your relationship would you take him back just because he became single again? I sure as hell wouldn't. But if it's a case that she does take him back I will have absolutely no sympathy for her when he cheats on her again in the future. Cos he will. Thats how that relationship works, toxic AF.
@@Olivia55000 They were cute when they first got together then Darren just started messing up time and time again until I actually started to really dislike them together. I still dont think they should have got back together after Sienna. IMO Nancy deserves better.
@@Dumdumblonde I agree 100% that’s what I was saying! He’s not good for her and doesn’t deserve her at all🥺
@@Dumdumblonde omg when Nancy took him back after the sienna storyline I couldn’t cope! But Nancy clearly loves him and love blinds you sometimes, but she deserved Kyle, he actually faithfully loved her and Darren never has, he’s selfish and only wants what he can’t have and when he sees Nancy happy it makes him angry and wants to ruin it🤦🏼♀️
This is gonna end badly Ella will have to be charged Mandy and Darren will split and how on earth will Nancy and Charlie cope after this
Molly King What about Jack and Oscar though Molly? 🤨🤨🤨🤨 Jack’s adopted Great Nephew and Oscar’s Cousin’s afraid and alone in a birdcage for something he (Charlie) didn’t do. 😔😔😔😔
Chelsey Linden very true I can see Jack coming back to help Nancy but I can’t see him doing a whole lot I feel like he will find out about Mandy and Ella and he will try knock some sense into Darren to leave Mandy. Oscar I think won’t have much I think there will be a sad scene in which Oscar is trying to have a conversation with Nancy and it just gets very very emotional
@@MollyKingMusicTV How would it be emotional if Oscar’s trying to have a conversation with his Mother Nancy Molly???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
Chelsey Linden well I mean imagine explaining to your son that his brother/cousin is in prison and could be sent down I mean it will be simply explained to him but I mean it would be hard to explain to a child that situation
@@MollyKingMusicTV Good point there. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Mandy is such a snake what so he has to pay the price for Jordans Murder when it wasn't Charlie?
She isn't a snake she is protecting her daughter you clown her daughter is her priority Charlie isn't
Jack Shields My Husband always told me that he would take the blame for something bad I did. Like say that if I broke my promise to our Daddy/Lindsey’s Step-Daddy and couldn’t take the guilt anymore seeing him rotting alone in a birdcage then 🎵” I Would”🎵 (One Direction: I Would “. 😉) tell the police 👮🏼♀️ that I did it. But you’re right though either Ella or Mandy needs to turn her/herself in and tell them what really happened. 😔😔😔😔 What do you think Jack???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Mandy always been a snake. She’s a selfish,disgusting piece of work.
@@ChelseyLinden this ain't meant in a rude way but why do u say daddy? Its just bc where I'm from we say daddy when we are little and we say mummy but say mum and dad when we are older
@@grantmcroberts4089 nah if that was my child they would have to face the consequences
Let this break up Dandy 🥺🤞
We need dancy back
@@moremexedits9100 facts
YESS dancy is way better
@@YhBillie facts
@@amitysluzara2022 I hope so and if or when that happens I even hope the same for #Landy! 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔 (That before Luke’s death). 😟😟😟😟🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 What do you think???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Oh my.....what happens to ella now with victor??????she doesn't have juliet or charlie to protect her and mandy probably wont help so....dun dun DUN.....
Oop
Oop
@@not_leaina oi
@@Lola-ec8mx wassup😂
@@not_leaina I recognise you
BLT “IT’S BTS” 😂😂😂😂😂
Lisa O’Keefe Wanna play a game called “Finish The Song”???? 😃😃😃😃
What I don’t understand is, if Jordan was letting Sid and Juliet leave then why didn’t they just leave the building when Jordan found them? It’s not like he was trying to hurt them? So stupid
I think they were too scared to do anything and when you are scared your brain doesn´t work that well. They didn´t trust him and the situation were really difficult and as children they don´t have so much life experience to make the right choice.
I know it’s winding me up
@@ann-christinenilsson4046 oh yeah that makes sense
@@ann-christinenilsson4046 they didn't trust him. He let sid and juliet go because sid was his cousin and he was protecting sid. They thought he was going to hurt them because they fucked up their delivery
@@grantmcroberts4089 Exactly, they didn´t trust him at all so they acted in self-defense as I have written so many times now. The way Jordan behaved did things worse. If he had just gone out through the door and told them in a nice voice that he doesn´t want to hurt them anymore, I don´t think this situation would have arised but the situation spiraled out of control.
Is it weird that I feel really proud of Erin Palmer? This is like her first big storyline and she's doing amazingly!
She's doing brilliantly
everytime i see darrens and mandys house it reminds me off amy and ryan
GamingWithAlex Not to mention that’s where Ryan murdered his own Wife Amy tambien!!!! 😔😔😔😔
Oh god SAME :D
Jordan was killed with a butterknife by a 15 / 13 year old
P&G21 Actually Ella’s 13 Years old.
IM SO ANNOYED WITH THIS. FREE CHARLIE NOW
I wouldn't put Charlie in the same league as Justin
Peter Burke What do you mean Peter???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
If Mandy does this I hope this means the end of Darren and Mandy first u steal Nancy husband now let her son go to jail for ur kid
Inih how fucked is that
She didn't steal Nancy's husband & she didn't have an affair on her own either did she! As I recall Darren was there too. Did people actually watch this storyline properly or turn a blind eye to everything Darren did and just blame Mandy for everything. He was very much to blame for what happened too. I rewatched recently and he initiated every single time they were except towards the end where it was Mandy. But still he didn't walk away, did he? And I know this because I recently rewatched all these episodes. Also It takes two to tango as they say. He could have stayed and fought to get Nancy back when the affair was revealed but he didn't. I think he tried twice the day after and then gave up. Not the actions of a man so desperate to get her back. He then proceeded to move in with another woman. I actually think it was the day after he proposed to Nancy. Now if he wanted her back SOOOO badly wouldn't he keep trying rather than shacking up with someone else. I would say thats a man who doesn't mind being "stolen" as you put it. Mandy didn't force him into that. She didn't drag him kicking and screaming or beg him to be with her. Darren did that all by himself. If he wanted his wife back so badly he would have persisted even if he thought there was no hope at all but no he didn't. They were both to blame for the affair and for hurting Luke and Nancy. Also Mandy Ella and CHarlie are all to blame for this current mess too. Charlie confessed in the first place instead of telling the truth which would have been better for all of them, Ella should have told the truth as well and the same with Mandy. it's all their faults again not just hers!!
Wasn't the Hutch outfitted with CCTV in the past? Do they even mention it?
Poor Ella. The reason why she does bad stuff, because mandy ignoring her.
@@levirobb1013 🤣🤣 mandys a crap mum
@@levirobb1013 that's what I mean
@@levirobb1013 how? he was so annoying
@@cocopopsickIe Who’s “He” Chloe???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
I feel like Victor will eventually be killed off and the blame over Jordan’s death will revert to him to save Ella/Charlie from Juvie
Okay, I know a lot of naive parents, but Mandy asking Ella where they wanted her to put the drugs if they didn't want them in her bag...COME ON!! Seriously? 🤣
How did they not hear Jordan letting Sid and Juliette go and obviously know he wasn't going to hurt them? They were only under the table and table cloth.
Because sid was Jordan cousin. Alse Charlie and Ella fucked up a delivery so Jordan would not be in the mood with those 2
Poor Mandy having to find out that her Daughter and I really felt for sid in tonight’s episode and what they did for Jordan set the water works off for me
Hollyoaks casually name dropping BTS after that 1 episode where dynamite played . UK armys !
I’m sure they just did that for the younger audience lmao
Hello army
@@sweet__cherry just goes to show how much of a household name bts are becoming
i think charlie is gonna get out in the next few episodes but victor is going to continue on grooming them the way he was even if mandy and them know
maddie minnock I hope that Victor moron’ll get put in a birdcage for life once he comes back to the village. 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯 Also I wonder what that Victor moron’s gonna feel when he finds out that Juliet and Sidney are still alive but not Jordan. 🤨🤨🤨🤨 What do you think Maddie???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ella is younger than Charlie right? So she won't go down if she confesses
Legal age of imprisonment is 10 so yes she could be sentenced.....
@@danielhendry8376 in America or UK?
Why wouldn't she? She's 12 alot of people go jail for less at that age
@@alicecluett5874 in the UK so she can still go to jail
@@beryla4979 oh dear. Well still hope she confesses. not fair to see Charlie suffer but at the same time they should have listened to Jordan. :(
I just thought if Darren found out that Mandy never told anyone it was Ella, he might leave Mandy and possibly end up with Nancy? Idk but Darren will be very upset and so will Nancy
Tegan Pops If that happens. How do you think Charlie’ll feel???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Just cos they are both upset with Mandy doesn't automatically mean a reunion for them. I don't think Nancy will forgive Darren for everything just cos Mandy did this!
I thought they would blame it on victor to get rid of him. Juliet, Sid, Charlie and Ella could have pinned it on him somehow and he would be in prison
Eh wouldn't work because sid already did that and victor got out and was demanding Jordan to find out who it was that snitched.only reason that sid is still breathing is because Jordan didn't tell victor that sid went to the police
@@grantmcroberts4089 oh yeah they would all get killed when Victor got released. Forgot about that 😂🤦🏼♀️
Mandy saying trap house is just 👁👄👁
Paige Is just what Paige???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
I hope Charlie gets out however, everyone hating on Mandy, in all honesty if it was your child been forced to 'plug drugs' and they thought that was their only way out of the situation they was in because they was that terrified for what was going to happen in their lives next, would you want them to confess and be in jail going through even more childhood trauma or at home trying to make up for not been aware of what was going on in the first place 🤔
It´s difficult but you must take the consequences of your actions. It´s the only decent thing to do and also telling the truth as soon as possible. The more you lie to the police the worse it will get for everyone.
@@levirobb1013 I wouldn't exactly say ella was a cold hearted killer thats a bit extreme shes just a vulnerable child so is Charlie but your always going to put your own children first
@@levirobb1013 Are you serious??? Ella is a practically a child. You make it sound like shes a terrible person. She was protecting her friend. I don't want to see either of them go down for this. How can you say that about a little girl. They are all innocent in this. Victor and Jordan are to blame. Nobody in this situation including Mandy is to blame for what happened.
@@Dumdumblonde The only one who’s to blame for all of this is that Victor moron Fiona not Charlie, not Ella, not Jordan, not Juliet and especially not Sidney!!!! 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@levirobb1013 Ok I agree about charlie he shouldn't be charged for a crime he didn't commit. But Ella is a young girl, its hardly a cold blooded murderer we are dealing with here. And it's not like she stabbed Jordan without reason, she was protecting charlie. she's only 12 or 13. OK that part about Mandy doesn't even make sense. You're blaming her for Ella killing someone and charlie taking the blame and both of them dealing drugs because she is with Darren who was selling drugs back in 2017, before she was even in the village?????. LOL that makes no sense at all. Do you mean because Darren was a drug dealer himself in the past and now Mandy is with him? And somehow that set a bad example for Ella and Charlie and thats why they started. Well then as Charlie's guardian and the ACTUAL former drug dealer it's Darren you should be blaming here not Mandy. Those are Darren's actions, not Mandy's. That's his crime not hers. He was the one dealing the drugs and actually had them under the same roof as Charlie. So that right there seems like a pretty cut and dry case of worst example for a child who himself turned to dealing drugs if that is what you were getting at. Also she wasn't even with Darren when this was going on, Nancy was. So going by that logic you could say she is also to blame for all this because she was actually with Darren at the time and took him back when she found out he not only dealt drugs but had them in the house too. And Ella didn't even know Darren back then or about the drug dealing given and I say this again MANDY WASN'T EVEN IN THE VILLAGE AT THE TIME IT WAS GOING ON. I doubt Mandy ever told her daughter that Darren dealt drugs, why would she?? So if she was oblivious to it how could Mandy being with Darren set a bad example for her. Also you could just blame the person responsible for selling drugs in the first place, Darren himself. I know people like to blame Mandy for pretty much everything that goes wrong for every other character that she interacts with but blaming Darrens actions on her when she wasn't even in Hollyoaks at the time is absolutely ridiculous. Plus she isn't even Charlie's parent or guardian Darren and Nancy are so anyone is to blame for setting a bad example especially in relation to drugs it's bloody Darren not Mandy. make it make sense for god sake!!! Also small thing but when did Mandy and Darren get married.
Just goes to prove how selfish mandy is .your took Nancy's husband with vim and pin the murder on Charlie know full well what your daughter has done .never really liked mandy she is too self absorbed and sly for my liking..only positive out of this could maybe in the long run bring Darren and Nancy back together. Mandy is callous it only took her a few minutes to decide without think of the consequences of her actions. Poor Charlie
Not to mention a crap mother. Had she not been busy cheating with a she may have stopped to pay attention to her daughters life.
@@theenglishkid8794 Wait what??? She wasn't cheating when Ella got involved in this. Her and Darren have been together for over 2 years now since, september 2018 well before the county lines storyline started. And it's not like she hasn't had other stuff on her mind in the last year. Like DJ possibly having the same thing Luke has, Darren's depression. She hasn't been paying much attention to Ella recently i'll give you that but she has been a good mum to her otherwise, and DJ and Ollie as well.
Really thought Charlie and Ella was going to use there heads and say Victor killed jord
Sarah Jayne Dunn really impressed as a concerned parent here. Had I not known better, I would have believed Ella really was her daughter, and had killed someone. Ella being Mandy`s daughter, I don`t blame Mandy one second for setting her first. The tragedy, though, is that if she instead of assuming the worst, had gotten Ella to come clean about every detail about what happened, it would be obvious that Ella acted to protect Charlie from being attacked, and possibly killed by Jordan, and therefore that her intention was to protect Charlie, not to kill Jordan. So if Mandy had phoned Darren, both kids could have been helped. Cause the police, since the findings on the scene would have fitted with how Charlie and Ella described what had happened, could not charge neither Charlie, nor Ella with deliberately having planned and intended to kill Jordan, all the time he was killed by one single stab in the back. That is a not deliberate death, but a tragic fluke one. And all the time both Charlie and Ella were convinced Jordan would kill them or harm them, they are justified both to protect themselves and each other against any credible threat. Jordan being both older and bigger, could have presented such a threat to them. As long as the findings on the scene matched what Charlie and Ella had explained about what happened, it is unlikely they would have been charged, one of the knifes being Jordan`s, and the other found nearby the scene. Something like that cannot have been a planned killing.
But even if Mandy protects the truth from coming out, getting Charlie acquitted should not present too big a challenge, since Jordan was killed by only one stab with the knife. The autopsy report, although showing in detail how deep and at what angle the knife had penetrated into Jordan`s body, and what damages it had caused there, would not tell neither who had held the knife, or under what circumstances, it all had happened.
Still the forensic examiner being an expert witness, usually very experienced (they don`t give cases with underage killers to newcomers) has a lot of knowledge and professional integrity a defense lawyer could exploit to his/her advantage. imagine the forensic examiner (FE) in the witness box, being questioned by the barrister for the defense (D):
D: "Even if your examinations of the body have determined what knife and what injuries that caused the victim`s death, it does not specify who inflicted them, is that not correct?
FE: "That is true."
D: "So your otherwise excellent autopsy report does not point in any particular direction in the search for whoever stabbed the victim, only which weapon, and which injuries that killed him. Therefore you don`t know how that stab came to happen. Is it possible the reason the victim was stabbed in the back, was that say the victim where holding the defendant in both hands, about to toss him away, and that the defendant, in panic, stabbed the victim in the back to not be thrown against the window, or on top of tables and chairs, to protect himself from injuries and pain?"
FE: "It is not my job to speculate..."
D: "But you are an expert forensic examiner, it must be possible to say if such a scenario is possible, or not!"
FE: "I suppose it would be possible."
D: "What if the defendant was on the floor, fearing the victim was about to stamp on his head or throat, and to avoid that made his way through the victims leggs, so he was behind him, there saw the knife, grabbed it and stabbed the victim in the back. Could that explain the stab wound that killed the victim?"
FE: "I suppose so."
Having toreadored with the forensic examiner, using a few other scenarios which clearly placed Charlie in potential danger, and which the forensic examiner reluctantly had to admit could have been how the stabbing of Jordan had happened as a red cape - creating doubt, narrowing the possibility for the jury to be fully convinced about Charlie`s guilt, cause so many of the scenarios pointed to Charlie as the one being attacked, and Jordan as the attacker, that the jurors view of Charlie would more be the scared and defenseless little boy being attacked by a twenty something drug dealer attempting to kill him, it would be time for the figurative stab in the neck:
D: As a forensic examiner, would you describe the scenarios we now have gone through to be of a nature that can be described as traumatic, for a young boy to be fighting for his life against someone older and stronger than him, intending to kill him?
Should the FE be evasive in his/her answer, that offers the defense barrister the opportunity to paint the various scenarios for the jurors again, confronting the forensic examiner with the challenge of coming up with an explanation for why the different scenarios cannot be described as traumatic. Either he/she will admit that they are, or the jurors will lose confidence in the FE as an independent expert, thinking instead he/she will do or say anything they think will help the police and the prosecution. Should the prosecuting barrister object, claiming the FE is not a psychologist, cannot read the mind of the defendant at the time or similar, jurors - who is very curious to hear the answer of the FE at this point (having already concluded the answer to be yes themselves) - would see that as an intervention from the prosecution because the facts goes against them, and weakens their case, and that is why they are so keen not to allow the FE to answer the question. By starting the question with "As a forensic examiner," that creates the impression that the question is one the FE should be able to answer, and since all the jurors likely quickly will conclude the answer to be yes, it would be traumatic, any hesitation or attempt to row the FE would try, would be seen as an attempt at dodging the question - undermining the overall confidence in both the FE as an independent expert and the prosecution`s case. At the same time what the jurors will see in their heads while thinking of the incident, is terrified little Charlie being attacked and tried killed by Jordan, until he is lucky enough to get hold of a knife from one of the tables to stab Jordan with, and save his own life.
So when the follow up question:
D: In your time as a forensic examiner, have you ever heard of cases where a person is so traumatized by the incident, that he or she is incapable of remembering anything from it at all?
That question traps the FE completely. Cause if he/she tries to say they never have heard of any such cases, they know the defense will confront them with real life examples - if they are unlucky, cases they themselves have been working on. But if the FE answers honestly and says yes, that will substantiate a possible claim by the defense that Charlie acted to protect his own life, but because the incident was so traumatic was incapable of remembering it all afterwards, so not remembering anything about how, but knowing he killed Jordan, he gave the police a story he thought was what happened, but as they confronted him with more and more evidence his version of events was not supported by the evidence, came to accept their version of events instead.
Even if the police, using evidence from the crime scene to ripp Charlie`s explanation to protect Ella apart, had gotten him to confess to have killed Jordan with intent, such a confession would have been raised doubt about, had the FE reluctantly have had to admit there was cases so traumatic they could be blocked from memory completely. Offering the defense the chance to claim that Charlie had not been taken in lies by the police, but simply didn`t remember anything of the incident at all because he had been so scared of losing his life, and therefore constructed an explanation to why Jordan was dead that he found most likely - and therefore voluntarily confessed to having killed Jordan, cause he honestly believed, at that time, that he had. But when the police found holes and untruths in his explanation compared to the crime scene and the autopsy report, he just accepted their claims, cause he had no recollection of what happened himself. Until he was charged with murder. Something he knew could not be what happened, cause he had not planned to kill neither Jordan, nor anyone else that night, so much he remembered. He hadn`t lost his memory completely, only for the time he and Jordan fought. And here the fact the knife that killed Jordan was from the restaurant and had not been brought there, and the only knife that had been brought was Jordan`s own knife - suggesting that if anyone came with the intent to kill that night, it was Jordan, not Charlie. All in all all of this should have established more than enough reasonable doubt to get a teenager acquitted of the killing of a 20 something drug dealer.
But off course, had Mandy told Darren what Ella had told her, Charlie and Ella could both have told the truth. A truth that would have matched the findings of the crime scene and the autopsy report, and neither would have been charged since both of them feared for their own and the other`s life, after Jordan found them hiding under the table.
Omg mandy is really pissing me off maybe if she wasn't 2 busy trying 2 be a home recker and en try and make a relationship work wiv some one who clearly still has feelings for Nancy then Ella wouldn't of got in 2 this mess it's her fault not Charlies he's the one being charged for a murder Ella did
“Trap house”😂😂
Aye out of context but, didn’t know Ella was a BTS fan :)
Me neither
@@skelly6309 indeed she is 😌
I thought Leah was going to be in the drugs storyline
Yeah Leah seems mean and up for it like Juliet once thought
Yea same she's barely on the show anymore
@@YhBillie Same with Bobby, Daniel, Hilton, Lucas, Sebastian, Sophie and Stephanie!!!! 🤨🤨🤨🤨
She’s just given birth to her baby so I guess it’s because she’s on maternity leave for now
@@watermelonqueen1755 Who???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
Was this episode aired tonight ?
Children needs to learn submissions
Good video great acting merry Christmas and a happy new year
They've turned Charlie into the next bobby Beale
Ella killed him tho
Charlie didn't do it though, it was Ella.
Omg mand is a bi,,,,,ch, can't wait till Nancy find out 2 years from now in soap world 😍
Come on Ella don’t let Charlie suffer in that birdcage! You need to do the right thing turn yourself in face up to the consequences! What do you People think???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
One interesting thing with this case, though, is the blood palm print on Darren`s shirt. That quite clearly is left by a hand pressed against Darren`s shoulder. But it is a clear imprint, not something you would see had someone (Darren) wiped blood off their hand to clean it, cause those types of prints are more stretched and oddly shaped. So just by looking at the blood print, it looks more to be from someone pressing their hand against Darren to push him away. Could that have been Jordan, trying to protect himself from being killed by Darren, after Darren had realized that if Jordan talked, Charlie would be in big trouble - if alive? And the reason the hand was bloody was that before he needed to attempt to defend himself with it, Jordan had pressed it against his wound to stop the bleeding? But the massive blood loss having made him so fatigued, he didn`t stand a chance to stop Darren killing him?
One thing is for sure, that bloodstained shirt of Darren`s must have some key role in this, otherwise it wouldn`t have been included. Cause normally Darren would not have bloodied his hand by checking the neck or hand pulse of a dead stab victim who had been stabbed once in the back. So is the blood an indication Darren could have blood on his hands in a more figurative way?
Darren was out of order in the beginning lets all be honest if he didn't cheat then none of this would happen
@Bodhi no this all started when Charlie thought no one cared about him and Nancy had so many priorities if Darren had been there he would have noticed him sneaking off
That’s not fair people split up cheat all the time, doesn’t mean your kids become drug dealers. Nancy is just as much to blame as Darren for ignoring Charlie.
Eh it isn't Darren fault stop blaming him. No one forced these kids to join these drug dealing groups. Also it would be Nancy fault she is his legal guardian and also Charlie did it because he wanted a stupid game console and thinks drug dealing is a better job than a actual part time job
Or it could be to do with the fact that he has actually dealt drugs in the past. Remember heroin back in 2017. Not the best example for charlie.
@@Dumdumblonde Not to mention he had a gambling problemo “Problem” Fiona!!!!
R.I.P Ella Richardson you'll be missed!!
Poor ella
The only think I love about this clip is the BTS reference jks lol but still good reference
Me too. I love this line and a love BTS
Gigi
Cause ah ah I’m in the stars tonight.
So watch me bring the fire and set the night alight.
@@ChelseyLinden shoes on get up in the morn cup of milk let's rock and roll
@@millysheard9287 King Kong kick the drum.
Rolling on like a rolling stone.
@@ChelseyLinden sing song when I'm walking home jump up to the top lebron
No charlie can't go down for this
Did Ella actually kill Jordan ??
Yes, did you not watch the video? Before she says “I killed Jordan” it shows her stabbing him and him falling to the ground.
@@xalexis.editsx I hope he’s still alive though Ben!!!! 😟😟😟😟🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
@@ChelseyLinden Ben Mitchell is a character from eastenders i doubt that’s his real name
@@ChelseyLinden He’s literally dead, they confirmed it.
@@xalexis.editsx Hollyoaks has brought People back from the dead from being stabbed only once before in the village. Who’s to say they won’t do it again Benjamin???? 😉😉😉😉
Charlie and Ella *BOTH* need to be in prison not just him!
How about neither have prison since both were groomed by drug dealers
But still it's a crime
@@MK8Warrior Ella shouldn't let here take the blame
No just juliet. They were both groomed into it by her and jordan. Ella was FORCED into it.
To me it seems more as self-defense as they were very scared and didn´t trust Jordan. If they could tell the whole truth and how they ended up with Jordan at the Hutch, it should be seen as self-defense. Ella didn´t plan to kill Jordan but she just went for a knife by instinct when she felt so scared. I don´t think her intention was to kill Jordan and if you get stabbed in the back you don´t die that quickly as Jordan did. It doesn´t make sense unless the knife cuts of a lifesupporting artery, lungs or similar and there were very little or no blood.
ELLA IS AN ARMY???!!!💜
has this episode aired because it’s not showing for me ? Will it air tomorrow?
To all you that are moaning that mandy is telling Ella to tell no one of course she is going to do that she is protecting her daughter which is her number one priority. Also you are all moaning that they are letting Charlie take the blame it is his fault he chose to tell the police it was him. If he did not touch the murder weapon and put it back were Ella got it from then his prints would not be on it and it would have been Ella's, also if he had not told the police it was him then the police would have checked the murder weapon and they would have found Ella prints and that would get Ella put away or put down as a main suspect. So yes it is Charlie fault for not keeping his gob shut. Also maybe she should not have been joined a drug operation then.
And then mandy had the nerve to have someone who is innocent in jail while her daughter remains free cuz that make sense and lies more and even worse this scheming minx wants to marry Darren...
Ella!?! Noooooooooooooooo
The BTS reference lmao anyway so
Ella’s gonna speak to Charlie about it but Charlie might take the blame for it cause he cares about her Damn it! I was waiting for his and Ste’s daughter’s relationship to happen next season guess now we’ll never know they would’ve been a really good couple maybe she’ll visit him at the police station who knows
Maria Silva She’s Ste’s Step-Daughter, her name’s Leah Barnes and we just saw Darren and Nancy video chatting with their Nephew Charlie so. I think if the police want to allow visitors I think Charlie and Leah’ll video chat. ☺️☺️☺️☺️ What do you think Maria? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 And I agree I think #Larlie would make a good Teenager couple!!!! 😂😂😂😂
@@ChelseyLinden yeah I can definitely see Larlie getting married in the future
@@ChelseyLinden I’ve been watching Hollyoaks for almost a decade but I’m very bad at remembering names on the spot my memory’s pretty shit but thanks for correcting me hehe 😂
@@MariaSilva-jc9jq Usually People don’t like it when I correct People but thank you for accepting it. Also if it’s okay with you about me asking you. Where are you from and what do you mean by “For almost a decade” btw???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@ChelseyLinden I’ve been watching hollyoaks since I was very young when I was little it was always on the tv and I’ve always loved drama who doesn’t 😂 and I’m from London Wbu?
Darren has to leave her now zx
ah Nicoll Uh Darren and Nancy are already divorced. 🤨🤨🤨🤨
@@ChelseyLinden yes hun I mean he has to leave mandy now surley xxxxx
@@sjnicoll535 Oh my bad.
It’s a butter knife
when it comes to the trial storyline they will probably stick ella nancy darren and brooke in the witness box and whoever defends charlie will use a tactic to get charlie off and get ella to confess and break down.
they will probably attack nancy over her painkillers and darren over his involvement with drugs and mention brooke's mum and the fact she was the one who killed becca.
i wonder if they will bring back justin for the trial storyline after all he is charlie's real dad and isnt anyones idea of a saint
Peter Burke What happened to Charlie’s Biological Father btw Peter???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
The plot thickens again - after a not very convincing death scene for Jordan, which was almost as bad as the idea of Bobby Fowler at age 11 killing his 20 year old sister with one blow with a music box, and being convicted of murder. How could and 11 year old have planned to kill a 20 year old woman, much taller than him, with just one blow with a music box? If he had intended to kill her, he would have hit her repeatedly, or used a weapon more appropriate for the job, like a hockey stick. However, had he entered the living room with a hockey stick, his sister probably would have been alerted to what was coming. So consequently Lucy`s death would had to have been a tragic accident - Bobby couldn`t have planned it. He got upset, hit her with the music box in anger, but because she had multiple bumps to her head that night, that last one was enough to kill her. That is not murder, but a tragic accident as a result of a chain of unfortunate incidents no individual could be blamed for, cause they happened independently of each other, and without the various inflictors being aware of the others, and the serious threat their collective doings posed to Lucy`s life.
Oaks almost fell into the same trap, but saved themselves by having Ella given running speed before stabbing Jordan in the back, otherwise that steak knife would not have penetrated deeply enough to cause Jordan his life. But with the running speed, it could - even if it doubtful it would have killed him instantly. Most likely he would just be in pain to begin with, until he had bled so much he bled to death, or his blood had been infected, and he would die from sepsis if not treated in time.
But even if Hollyoaks managed to somewhat save the credibility of the SL with Ella`s running speed, Jordan`s behavior was odd. After having allowed Sid and Juliet to flee, why did he not realize what he needed to do was calm down the two kids under the table, so he would win them on his side by protecting their secret from Victor, so they in turn would keep his about having allowed Sid and Juliet to flee? It didn`t really make sense to me why he would shout at them, and scare them, when he ought to know they had overheard what he told Sid, and therefore preventing them from bringing that information forward to Victor, should have been Jordan`s priority.
Had he instead told them to calm down, he was not going to hurt them, he just needed them - for the safety of Sid and Juliet - to not tell Victor what they had heard from under the table. Then he would off course ask Ella why she wasn`t on her way with the drugs. And after having heard her, told both her and Charlie they should tell Victor that Sid and Juliet had robbed them of the drugs and the money. Providing credibility to what Jordan would tell Victor, that Sid and Juliet had ambushed him and ran, when he was going to transport them to be liquidated. But instead of telling this to Victor`s face, Jordan by know, would have left the village with the drugs and money Charlie and Ella supposedly had been robbed off, phoned him from far from the village, told Victor he didn`t have to worry, cause he (Jordan) was going to get the drugs and the money back, and get rid of Sid and Juliet once and for all, cause he had a pretty good idea where Sid and Juiet would be. After that he hung up, destroyed his phone so he couldn`t be traced, before Victor had the chance of asking him where Sid and Juliet were.
A few days later Jordan is back in the village, together with a 3rd cousin of his, phones Victor, tells him his trip was successful in every way - where should they meet. The 3rd cousin comes with Jordan to the meeting with Victor, asks who the third cousin is first, annoyed Jordan has brought an outsider to the meet up. Jordan tells him he is his 3rd cousin, and one with access to a boat they used to get rid of the remains after Sid and Juliet. "They are fish food in the ocean now," the 3rd cousin says, and shows Victor a photo on his phone. It is the body and faces of a dead Sid and Juliet. Their bodies, lying on the deck of a cabin cruiser, and anchored down with chains and scrap metal, to sink deeper. Their faces are bloody with cuts and bruises. "First they wouldn`t say where the drugs and money were," the 3rd cousin explains with a sadistic grin and points to the beaten up faces. Flashback to a scene where Sid and Juliet are being applied make up that looks like bloody cuts and bruises on their faces, and the "3rd cousin," with a police identity card dangling on his jumper looking on and saying, don`t bother applying make up elsewhere than the faces, the bodies and the surroundings we can do with photoshop. Flashback is over, the "dead" and "beaten" faces of Sid and Juliet is seen on the phone display, and Jordan`s voice heard as hesitant voice over: "I told my 3rd cousin he would be well paid for his services...". "Off course he shall," Victor replies, and hands him the cash from the bag they have brought the drugs and the money in.
In a van nearby, a young officer looking at a screen informs his superiors both in the van and on the line: "We should get his fingerprints from the money." Another man inside the van - not a police officer - says: "My client has given you Victor as he promised. You should have every opportunity to follow the money and the drugs further up the food chain to the very top. I expect the terms for his cooperation, full immunity for himself, his cousin Sid, and then Juliet, Charlie and Ella will be honored, and also that arrests - for my client`s safety - will be made sometime in the future so his involvement in this never will be known." The leading investigator looks at the lawyer: "Don`t worry. Our focus is on the king pins - both in this country and abroad. Those below Victor in the hierarchy we will not be bothering with." As the lawyer is leaving, the lead investigator says: "Remember! Walk in a straight line from the door, so Victor don`t realize there is people inside this van." The lawyer nods. The lead investigator feels like giving him some praise, and says with admiration in his voice: "It was very wise of you to persuade your client to come to us. He could have been in a lot of trouble if he hadn`t." "I didn`t persuade him - he came to me with the idea, and asked if I could get him an immunity deal with the National Organized Crime Squad if he told everything he knew."
Okay, that way we would not have gotten the Darren and Nancy against Mandy development (possibly beaking up Darren and Mandy in favor of yet another Dancy era), instead Jordan would both have been alive, and more or less redeemed because he saved not only himself, but Sid, Juliet, Charlie and Ella as well. In addition to stopping Victor and the whole drug gang.
Personally I would have preferred to have Jordan alive - even if I will admit the idea of having Darren and Nancy on the opposite side to Mandy in a criminal case - possible trial - involving their kids, is a good one
If you're on about Bobby in EastEnders he's a beale not a fowler
@@eg8707 Yes, off course he is. I haven`t watched the show since he was convicted of having killed his sister, so I forgot. Thank you for correcting me.:-)
@@eg8707 I probably mixed the name up, because of the former ManU player, Robbie Fowler.
see this is why i dont like mandy she's so selfish even when she had the affair she never wants to do the right thing, she just wants other people to take the blame and not get outed.
Oh my god the scripting of this is terrible. It’s so cringe.
Charlie did not deserve to go to jail, and take the blame for Ella she's the one who killed Jordan not him, but hopefully she confess to it sometime soon to the police within the future in the series here, excuse me are u kidding me with that ending here, now Charlie's taking Charges for the murder of Jordan wow I'm speechless here.
Eric Marin How long does Charlie have for this Eric???? 😟😟😟😟
@@ChelseyLinden I don't know because, I'm not caught up with the episode's yet.
@@ericmarin2036 Aww tarter sauce! 😠😠😠😠 Oh well thanks anyway. ☺️☺️☺️☺️🤗🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️
I havrnt gotten any new episode
I think it was tonight’s E4 episode
I fill bad for charle
What feel bad for a boy who chosed to deal drugs and put himself in this position
Mary margaret Brien Actually it’s Charlie and what about Darren? What about Ella? What about James, “McQueen ❤️” What about Juliet? What about Nancy? What about Oliver? What about Oscar? Darren and Nancy’s Nephew/Oscar’s Cousin Charlie and James “McQueen ❤️” and Romeo’s Half-Sister/Half-Aunt Juliet are both in birdcages Ella’s gonna start dealing drugs for that Victor moron and Sidney’s gonna do the same!!!!
Ella should of thought of the effect it would have on Sid and every one else
Shame it wasn’t Mandy instead of jordan
I always think they should recast Justin and he comes back for Charlie
Karmarules If Charlie’s Biological Father Justin comes back to the village permanently? (And be in the opening titles tambien.) then I hope they won’t change the actor! 😟😟😟😟🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 I mean it’s bad enough they recasted Oliver! 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯 Isn’t it???? 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@ChelseyLinden the actor who played Ollie was fired for racism and Chris fountain was fired for rapping about rape, homophobia so I’m glad Ollie was recast and id stand by lime pictures and hollyoaks if they recasted Justin
@@recklesslntent Even if Justin does come back to the village I still hope they won’t recast him. 🤨🤨🤨🤨 (That whole “recasting” stuff has gone on far enough!) 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@ChelseyLinden yes but if he’s not recast it sends a message that they condone what Chris fountain did and tbh you’re showing you condone his behaviour. Interesting
@@recklesslntent Thank you???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
What sucks is that evil Victor is getting away with everything. I hate it when soaps do that.
Ari Papachristou That Victor moron’s not the only one who’s been getting away with everything but so has Silas and Warren!!!! 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯
6:01 soo sad 😢😮
BLT Concert, oml haha
I hate that bloody mandy
Who is Ella's dad?
Someone called mark
Sami Malik
@@charlalar14 Oh please there’s no way Mandy and Sami ever slept together!!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Uh oh
@Phoebe Olivia Why’d you delete this comment “1 Week late.” Phoebe???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
I’m so confused why Jordan was chasing them if he was telling them to go makes no sense
To get the knife back.
@@rdorion9202 but why would he need to all he had to do is step back n tell them get out
@@rdorion9202 Really???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
Mandy and Nancy deserve each other! Darren should run for the hills
Mandy has always been a selfish cow. First she steals Darren and now she's ensuring Charlie takes the fall for her own daughters mistake. Great parenting and role model.
Eh she is protecting her daughter good parent you would be if you threw your child under the bus for someone else's. Also no one told Charlie to put the weapon back and tell the police it was him
@@grantmcroberts4089 Yeah but her overall behaviour is still selfish. She doesn't think of the consequences. Nancy lost Kyle and now might lose Charlie. Going into the new year with both gone it's so cruel.
I love when people say Mandy stole Darren away from Nancy. It really gives me a good giggle every time I read it. Awww poor Darren stolen away from his wife and dragged into bed by bad bad Mandy. Like he had no choice in the matter. It really is such BS. He was as much to blame for everything that happened between them as she was. I recently rewatched these scenes and except for towards the end he initiated nearly every single time him and mandy were together (feb 2018 - june 2018). He didn't even feel guilty unlike Mandy who we saw flickers of guilt from every now and then, Darren not until 2 weeks before his 9 month affair was revealed to everyone. That was when Nancy nearly caught him in the bedroom at Mandys flat. If he loved and respected Nancy so much he would never have cheated on her in the first place. not just with mandy btw, remember Sienna Blake. People seem to forget Mandy wasn't Darren's first affair either. The first nearly resulted in a couple of his family members dying and causing Nancy actual brain damage but lets forget about that shall we. And then he slept with her again after everything. Unreal what this guy gets away with tbh. But the fans seem to have a blame everything on Mandy and forget Darren was involved at all mentality. Also If he wanted Nancy back when the affair was revealed he would have fought tooth and nail to get her back even when she said there was no hope. But did he. No he went and shacked up with another woman. Not the actions of a man who has been "stolen" away from his wife now are they. He wasn't forced into that. He had a choice. In fact he had a choice to walk away all the way through the affair but he didn't. Mandy may be a selfish cow and definitely was during the affair but darren was a selfish prick too. Sarah Jayne Dunn even said by the end they were both as bad as each other in what they had done.. Also Charlie has a mouth he can open it and say what really happened just like Mandy and Ella can. Its not like Mandy is ensuring he take the fall as you put it. he confessed himself after all she's not in there with a gun to his head or anything telling him to keep his mouth shut. He could tell the truth but he is choosing not to. Also about the parenting. What do you expect her to do? Ella is her child, so she will do everything to protect her. Also Mandy has already lost one child, Grace, you really think she is not going through her head right now given the situation Ella is in. She may not be the perfect parent especially in relation to Ella sometimes but I'm pretty sure she is not a bad mother in comparison to others on the show.
What happened to Mandy’s baby that you hardly see anymore
ItSophieD88 You mean Luke’s and Mandy’s Son Lj? 🤨🤨🤨🤨 And according to others on here they say that no real Baby’s or Kids are allowed to be on screen because of the virus! 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯 Ridiculous isn’t it???? 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@ChelseyLinden His name is DJ not LJ
@@Dumdumblonde He’s Luke’s Son not Darren’s though Fiona.
@@ChelseyLinden I'm well aware of who's biological son he is. I have been watching this show for a long long time. So what are you saying? that they should change that baby's name to LJ at the age of nearly 2 years just because the man he has known as his dad for the past 2 years isn't his biological dad????? Do you realize how awful that is. Just because he is not his blood doesn't mean Darren isn't his dad. Darren has been there with Mandy every step of the way in regards to DJ. He was with her when they had to make the decision about the operation before the birth. He was there when they found out the baby had spina bifida. He was there when the baby was born. He raised that little boy since birth. He cared for him and loved him and stood by her through everything. THAT is what makes a dad. Biology doesn't even come into it.
@@Dumdumblonde Darren has one Son Oscar!!!!
Are these episodes comubg out for u
Olivia Hatchett What do you mean Olivia???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
this is so sad :(
My auntie she 17 she has so much attitude
no one actually asked kid
IWillB3INURCØMM3NT S3CTION I think it’s his first day in TH-cam
Who’s Jordan again??
Mandy is so selfish! And self righteous. Cannot stand her.
Mandy is doing the best for her daughter
Zahoor Hussain Ella need to turn herself in and tell them what really happened!!!!
Sad but as a mother you cant live and see someones kid going to prison just bz u protect what is yours ..period
I just want a ps5
@Lewis Perry I'm just waiting for anyone to have stock 😭
I have no sympathy for drug dealers, regardless of their circumstance. Stop normalizing this Hollyoaks.