straight up. that's not even an okay mistake to make. somebody needs to get slapped for that. especially since they work fucking NME a music magazine. disrespect
I can't tell for the life of me how old these two guys are......and I really want to know because it's even cooler if they're finding this stuff as people in their late twenties and making music that's really influenced from these bands.
fr. They never said "Hardcore Punk" just "Hardcore" Last I looked, there were quite a few subgenres with "hardcore" listed before the actual genre name.
These guys are right and you fans dont know shit..Hardcore and Punk is an attitude it isnt a genre. Anything can be Hardcore and only Hardcore musicians without closed minds get that.
@@guiltyhxc Were probably not thinking of the same thing but its okay. Its been more than a year since i commented this and i have no idea what the context is so im not gonna argue...
@@skullsouljah2836 imo the first black flag release was the first true hc record, but your right bad brain perfected the sound and layed the template for hardcore punk to come
@@usualdosage7287 bad brains were the best hc punk band, but black flag and germs were the first. Black Flag stole Germs riffs but they started the same time.
I wasn't a massive minor threat fan, but did they even have a 2nd album? I know they had a bunch of 7 inchs, that complete recording album is great all the way through imo though
if you count first two 7” as an album then out of step would be their first and first two 7” would be the second. they also re-published their demo tape as an album, so technically they made three.
Okay, so I get where Onyx could have been considered hardcore rap or hip hop, so that sort of works. Rage on the other hand wasn't hardcore in any genre. Can't get with that one.
@@SR-ru2tu Closing NYSE does not make you a hardcore band. They were a socially conscious protest band, but if we're talking hardcore as a genre they had nothing to do with that.
RATM has a really strong hardcore punk root if you don’t know. Zack played in a very underground famous hardcore band called “Inside Out” in the late 80s before he formed RATM
SWIZ!!! Everybody overlooks them, especially when compiling hardcore bands with 'black' vocalists. Irrelevant detail to me as I'm not an enthusiastic player in the live-action 'Identity Politics' board game, but to some folks it's of interest. Swiz never got the credit they deserved as a band and that much is true.
If you think hardcore is just a sound or its hardcore to bust out a gun and fire it in the air for absolutely no reason besides making yourself look cool, you don't know what hardcore is. From the verse sections of DK's Nazi Punks Fuck Off: "Punk ain't no religious cult Punk means thinking for yourself You ain't hardcore 'cause you spike your hair When a jock still lives inside your head If you've come to fight, get outta here You ain't no better than the bouncers We ain't trying to be police When you ape the cops it ain't anarchy Ten guys jump one, what a man You fight each other, the police state wins Stab your backs when you trash our halls Trash a bank if you've got real balls"
the guy in the pic is not HR, is israel joseph i, what a disrespect. NME, please stay with teenage english hipster bands, you have nothing to do with hardcore
I'm pretty sure that they acknowledged this in the video and gave reasons why they still went with'em. At least they didn't show a pic a Israel and say it was HR.
g.leroy Tully you sound like another dusty ass scene legend rattling about how some kids are appropriating your shit genre, it’s all shit and everyone younger will never get it right
''You can't claim a genre you weren't part of'' ... I think hardcore means doing whatever you want and in that way rage agaisnt the machine AND Onyx are pretty hardcore. It's much more comforting when you look at hardcore as a bigger scene.
FYI - that photo is not HR of the Bad Brains. It's actually Israel Joseph I. He took over vocals for the album 'Rise'.
Met these dudes in salt lake city. Fucking love these guys. Gave me a shirt too. I will always support and promote the hell out of these dudes
Uhh yeah, that wasn't HR in the pics. It was Israel Joseph. But great interview still.
lol great one NME or whoever edited this. that's embarrassing!
straight up. that's not even an okay mistake to make. somebody needs to get slapped for that. especially since they work fucking NME a music magazine. disrespect
Healthy ass rebellious music brings back my faith in humanity
YES
"Healthy"
@@djurraca927 yes healthy for everyone and everything
Onyx is so underrated! They real OGs! They have ppl Wildin at shows!
They would def fit the hard-core industrial genre really well
I can't tell for the life of me how old these two guys are......and I really want to know because it's even cooler if they're finding this stuff as people in their late twenties and making music that's really influenced from these bands.
Discharge" never again" t shirt hell yeah. Can't go wrong with that.
"HoW cAn yoU bE hArdCoRe aNd LeaVE oUt _____"
Because people like what they like
That's the way PUNK IS
Ian Mackey from Minor threat
Was very influential person in hardcore punk he was also in fugazi and produced album of Rites of Spring
Respect ✊🏽
I was at that Cro-Mags show. It was my 1st time seeing them too. Fucked Up, Pissed Jeans and Screaming Females were also good.
Seen them live a few months ago and they were dope asf it opened me up to a whole new sound
inb4 "those aren't hardcore punk records". No, this is hardcore music. And ho99o9 fucking rules.
fr. They never said "Hardcore Punk" just "Hardcore" Last I looked, there were quite a few subgenres with "hardcore" listed before the actual genre name.
I got to meet these guys at a avenged sevenfold concert and they’re so fucking chill.
That Onyx and Biohazard joints stills bangs to this day!
1979 Middleclass - Out of Vogue is a good starting point. Disorder, Discharge etc...
1978
Hardcore and hip hop came into being and evolved with each other. It's the same just a different sound
Respect though boys, nice to hear some fresh music for once.
It is really sad to see that NME , of all media , posting a photo of Israel ( singer for the Bad Brains 92 - 94 ) and saying that it is HR .
Love from Colombia! (Y)
Onyx is hardcore hip hop not hardcore punk but it's fine because the title says hardcore not hardcore punk. He
Minor Threat were great musicians. Brian Baker was like 13, they're not Bad Brains level and never were, but for sure a superb HC band.
for me minor threat is better. the real hardcore spirit. vegan and straight edge
I discovered Bad Brains. Thank you.
These guys are right and you fans dont know shit..Hardcore and Punk is an attitude it isnt a genre. Anything can be Hardcore and only Hardcore musicians without closed minds get that.
Hardcore is a genre actually, but its EDM.
Liam Morgan exactly. Someone could make fucking classical music into a hardcore style if they really wanted to😂
@@vilo-_-8072 Hardcore was born from punk, what the fuck are you talking about
@@guiltyhxc Were probably not thinking of the same thing but its okay. Its been more than a year since i commented this and i have no idea what the context is so im not gonna argue...
Hardcore is both an attitude but started out as a genre but ho99o9 is definitely hardcore music wise.
Where is Agnostic Front, Sick of it All, and 7 Seconds?
The Bad Brains picture is not of H.R. .
Didn't Jammaster J work with Onyx?
cool interview
Hardcore goes back waaay before Bad Brains!
They perfect it though.
Yeah germs invented it
@FGT RTD the germs invented hardcore. All the famous hardcore bands like Minor Threat and Black Flag stole germs style
@@skullsouljah2836 imo the first black flag release was the first true hc record, but your right bad brain perfected the sound and layed the template for hardcore punk to come
@@usualdosage7287 bad brains were the best hc punk band, but black flag and germs were the first. Black Flag stole Germs riffs but they started the same time.
I subscribed right away!!! Ahhhhh!!!!
The real 9909 like ya it's my last SSI number
Speakers of truth
Dont let the interview stop you from your txting.
who gives a fuck are you 80? and i can bet ofc you don t consider them real hardcore :(((((
Newsflash: Bad Brains weren't the first hardcore punk band. Black Flag were there way before, and prob others as well...
RAGE Live Shows + the Energy + Musicainship TALENT = Numero #1 ; Not # 5 // Lourissa in D.C.
Discharge ? ;) Exploited, G.B.H, Agnostic.........
good band.
I wasn't a massive minor threat fan, but did they even have a 2nd album? I know they had a bunch of 7 inchs, that complete recording album is great all the way through imo though
if you count first two 7” as an album then out of step would be their first and first two 7” would be the second. they also re-published their demo tape as an album, so technically they made three.
They didn't even have a first album lol
I wonder which Cro mags line up he seen
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I love all the picks, but how can you talk hardcore and leave out Black Flag?
It's their personal picks
dougthealligator cause BF is everyone’s first answer hahaha there’s so many good bands from that era
dougthealligator ironic you say that because their drummer was in Black Flag
Dylan Morton yeah but the shitty black flag
Obvious bad brains first.
God... Onyx second?? this really surprised me
Good picks!
That wasn’t HR in the pic
Whoever edited this didn’t listen to them
Minor Threat never made an album. They made like three 7"s and a 12" EP...
The real 9909 compur all-seeing ses what up
never seen those two before What the deal here ?
Why don’t they introduce themselves by their band name?
His name is Sonsee not Sunny.
Kinda disagree. Minor Threat dudes were good musicians, especially at that speed.
Go watch "American Hardcore" and see where Ian and Brian basically agree that Bad Brains were way better musicians.
Okay, so I get where Onyx could have been considered hardcore rap or hip hop, so that sort of works. Rage on the other hand wasn't hardcore in any genre. Can't get with that one.
A band that closed the NYSE for a day and caused countless riots not hardcore lol
@@SR-ru2tu Closing NYSE does not make you a hardcore band. They were a socially conscious protest band, but if we're talking hardcore as a genre they had nothing to do with that.
@@EarlofBaltimore I think once onyx was mentioned any hopes of this being a strictly hardcore genre list was out the window my dude.
RATM has a really strong hardcore punk root if you don’t know. Zack played in a very underground famous hardcore band called “Inside Out” in the late 80s before he formed RATM
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whaaat! no mention of body count!?
Yeah man! That first body count album was excellent! Pity the critics didn't think so! Fucking excellent!
In fact all of the body count albums are worth buying! Fuck the critics! What do they know...anyway?!
New york is the mecca of HARDCORE ....especially in the hip hop culture ....💥👊
That's where HARDCORE rap was born & and always dwells 💯✔🔥🔥
nice discharge shirt.
Cro mags
Word
That’s not H.R. but Joseph Israel... do your research better, journalists
Nice discharge shirt
Hi my last SSI number is 9909
bro the first two seven inches is defently better than out of step...
SWIZ!!! Everybody overlooks them, especially when compiling hardcore bands with 'black' vocalists. Irrelevant detail to me as I'm not an enthusiastic player in the live-action 'Identity Politics' board game, but to some folks it's of interest. Swiz never got the credit they deserved as a band and that much is true.
If you think hardcore is just a sound or its hardcore to bust out a gun and fire it in the air for absolutely no reason besides making yourself look cool, you don't know what hardcore is.
From the verse sections of DK's Nazi Punks Fuck Off:
"Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore 'cause you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head
If you've come to fight, get outta here
You ain't no better than the bouncers
We ain't trying to be police
When you ape the cops it ain't anarchy
Ten guys jump one, what a man
You fight each other, the police state wins
Stab your backs when you trash our halls
Trash a bank if you've got real balls"
Dennis Rodman’s long lost son
the guy in the pic is not HR, is israel joseph i, what a disrespect. NME, please stay with teenage english hipster bands, you have nothing to do with hardcore
Bad brands lol
rage against the machine and onyx aren't hardcore.
cool
Remo Ballmann Inside Out was oubviously a hardcore band but RATM is definitly not ;)
I'm pretty sure that they acknowledged this in the video and gave reasons why they still went with'em. At least they didn't show a pic a Israel and say it was HR.
Onyx are hardcore, they're just hardcore hip hop rather than hardcore punk.
Yes rage is a hardcore band. It's a message and attitude, along with the sound.
sorry but HC is NOT Onyx (who I love but, HC?!?! c'mon) and RATM ! Get it right millenials. You can't claim a genre you were'nt part of.
g.leroy Tully you sound like another dusty ass scene legend rattling about how some kids are appropriating your shit genre, it’s all shit and everyone younger will never get it right
Elitist xD gtfo dude
Ahahaha! Neither can your poser ass!
''You can't claim a genre you weren't part of'' ... I think hardcore means doing whatever you want and in that way rage agaisnt the machine AND Onyx are pretty hardcore. It's much more comforting when you look at hardcore as a bigger scene.
@@vvessel_ hardcore punk is just aggressive music with speed and a message. So onyx and rage are both hardcore groups
good band.