BYU fan here. Ticks me off that Coach Prime is being hated on. He's flamboyant, but I've always felt that he's sincere. I really believe that he's truly a good dude.
ESPN clearly does not believe in the new Big12. BYU made a good argument for why it should have gotten the CFP nod over SMU. People forget that BYU was a few yards from the end zone as time expired in both their losses.
@@elche1976 but I have heard all weekend from trolls saying that our close wins (winning drives) were also basically losses. So the mob has to figure out what it wants is all we're saying.
Maybe BYU hase an argument over SMU MAYBE. But no one believes in the current Big 12 right now outside of Big 12 fans. BYU looked good most of the season, but some Big 12 teams started off slow. Outside of the over hype of CU, no one really jumped off the paper at anyone. BYU could have won their way in. Lke I said MAYBE BYU deserves a spot, but been Big 12 fans and channels were talking down on them for weeks trying to hype up CU.Is the Big 12 a 2-bid league? That will have to be proved on the field against more higher ranked teams and teams that usually have a shot at the CFP
Almost correct. BYU went for 4th down at the Kansas 16 with 0:46 left in the game but only picked up 8 of the 11 yards they needed for a 1st down. So Kansas had the ball as time expired. But yeah, BYU had gotten to the Kansas 8 yard line with that last pass of theirs. However, when time expired against ASU, BYU had the ball at midfield.
I think the real thing people forget is that Kansas was a lot better than their record. Based on ESPN Power Rankings: BYU lost to #21 (ASU by 5) and #36 (Kansas by 4) while Alabama lost to Tennessee (okay) but then also #28 (OU by 21) and #38 (Vanderbilt by 5)
@@aBrewster29 What was the bad loss? They were 10 yards away from being undefeated, had the same number of losses as SMU, and beat them head to head.
@@danjohnson8556pagan it was a loss to Kansas a 5-7 team that nearly squandered their victory over pagan Mormon BYzu and that is truth. The same porous argument that you and other homewreckers of the pagan faith and religion of Mormon bull corn about close losses resonates well with SMU barely losing at home to BYzu in similar circumstances and could have been undefeated themselves. SMU had a better record & strength of schedule was actually about the same. Now had SMU have two losses going into the ACC conference championship game and lost to Clemson and still got in over BYzu, then you have a legit argument or SMU wins ACC championship game and Miami or Alabama are chose over BYzu you have a case and a point. But not when you lose at home to a team that finished 5-7 and looked like the team that was 1-5 in the game against Baylor and not the team that went 4-1 headed into the final game against Baylor who was 7-4 and 1 of Baylor’s losses was to a team with a losing record, keep that in mind. Also many Big12 and ACC idiots clamor about SEC playing 8 conference games; what they fck? The Mountain Worst played just 7 conference games and will do so next season and the PAC-Mountain & MWC will be playing 7 conference games in two years from now and in the future unless more schools with football teams are added. Not one damn word about Bozo State and their navigable easy access to success to get a playoff spot. The AAC was vastly better and has been the best G5/6 conference followed by the SBC. So if anything BYU should have taken Boise State place and SMU replaced by Army, and wash my mouth out with soap because I am a Navy veteran and Houston Coog Alumnus for crying out loud.
I’m surprised to see BYU fans (if I take them at their word) stating that they were not snubbed by being left out of the conversation. They sound more like Utah fans trolling so as a simple Big XII fan, they were absolutely disrespected by the media that sold SMU and the AEZ. The enormous disrespect was not conference to conference, logo to logo, roster to roster, it was literally head to head…on the road to beat it all. The corruption is so deep, the human element and bias needs to be removed and numbers need to make the decisions.
@@dayolddoughnuts4031Retzlaff was hurt and Ic regrets playing him against KU. Still, it took a fluke punt, Retzlaff int in ez, blown opportunity at end of game, etc. Unless you're undefeated, let's hear about your losses? 😊
The most despicable thing that Cam Ward did was to play for the TD record and then not play the second half. I could almost excuse not playing at all, but it's the height of selfishness to go for the individual award and then abandon his team. What a lack of character.
John BYU wasn't trying to prove any points. What you just saw at the Alamo bowl is a sneak peak into next season and years to come!!! BYU is going to be in the mix nationally every year???
@@ShaunskeeI mean, I'm a BYU fan, but come on man. Be realistic. Bball sure, but football? Football will be perennially a good team, with great teams every once in a while. There is no reason not to think BYU could be top 6 in the Big 12 every year.
BYU does have the kind of team that the powers of the playoffs could not allow to be in the playoffs. BYU should have beat KU in Provo though. That is probably what hurt BYU's chances.
Yeah, they lost 2 out of 3 at the end of the regular season…that sealed their fate. If BYU were to be selected it would mean Iowa State would have had to be sent.
@@Melodicroger BYU had to be 11-1. I don't like it, Big12 teams either have to win the conference Championship or only have 1 blemish. That's how it is.
@@Rick-wx4md that may be true for other Big 12 teams but BYU (who was once #6 in the country) and Colorado both could win out their in the CFB. Losing late really hurts teams esp when it’s 2 of 3 regular season.
I didn't think Colorado was very good at all before that game and the game revealed they were horrid. But BYU, they were ready to play! BYU and AZ State are top 20 teams in 2024.
I'm a PSU grad/fan and let me tell you BYU would have given us a game more so than SMU. BYU are tough kids very physical and should've been in the playoffs. I'm more of a Big 12 fan than Big 10 even though I'm a rabid Penn State guy. Love Kansas BB.
All BYU had to do was beat Kansas at home. They ran into one of those team’s having a tremendous year when they lost to Arizona State on the road, but if they had beaten Kansas, the one loss to Arizona State probably would not have mattered. Who knows, BYU might have beaten Arizona State in the Big 12 title game. And what about that narrow road win over Utah. That game could have gone either way. BYU had a good year, but they were on the cusp of a CFP berth, along with teams like Alabama, Miami, South Carolina and a few others who also could make a case for being in the CFP instead of Indiana or SMU.
BYU: "We were snubbed by the College Football Playoff" Colorado: "Okay, okay, UNCLE !!!" ... Alabama: "We were snubbed by the College Football Playoff" Michigan: "Shut up, Bama !!!"
3rd place SEC blown out. 4th place Big Ten blown out. 2nd place ACC team blown out. Maaaybe they should not have been the at large teams??? But here's what you do NOT do: Invite the 4th place SEC team, the 5th place Big Ten team, or 3rd place ACC team.
IF BYU made it and th esame happened to them, what would be the narrative? This is simple. Play the 4th place team in another conference during the season.
@SonicBoomC98 a) I think you're complicating something that isn't complicated. I'm NOT saying that the selection folks got it wrong. I'm saying that talking heads who advocate for Alabama or Miami or Illinois, don't make any sense since the teams from their conferences that finished ahead of them were overwhelmed. b) Non-conference schedules are made a couple of years in advance. c) Even if we could adjust non-conference schedules in the middle of the season, how would you know in October who was going to end up 4th in each conference at the end of the season?
Well one of these things is not like the others, Indiana, SMU, Boise, and Clemson were all fully healthy when blown out. Tennessee (a running team) lost their RB1 Dylan Sampson on the first drive of the game. Don't think healthy Tennessee gets blown out 42-17.
@@tomdean9381 Everyone knew that Miami's defense wasn't championship level. Maybe Bama just had a bad game. The SEC didn't have their best season but generally I wouldn't be surprised for 3 teams to be good
Your comments about Paul Finebaum and his beloved SEC might be tempered with thoughts such as too many fans (NOT of the SOUTHEAST) love their regional or home team or their Alma Mater and want THEIR team to have a fair shake in the national polls & playoffs & especially in the media (that is supposed to be objective). IF their team wins in their conference, especially in the P-4 conferences (glad to see Boise State in the mix this year) they deserve recognition. My point here is that many of us get fatigued by national media people (not to get political but take a look at who won the presidential election in part because of people’s fatigue of obvious media bias…). We are capable of thinking and observing performance without being told what we are supposed to see… Americans love both fairness and meritocracy in sports, and they like to hear good things about THEIR team especially when their team deserves it! GO BYU COUGS! GO BIG12!
BT, Must we drag politics into conversations about sports? The good thing about this college football season is that it has been a terrific distraction from hate politics this year. I am not a fan of trump and was not particularly a fan of biden. I am hopeful for better times in 2025, but I have my doubts. As long as football is there, I can cope. Paul Finebaum grew up in the south and he works for the SEC network. Would you not expect him to propagate for SEC teams? Just like John Kurtz does here for the Big 12. Kurtz has a Big 12 bias. BYU had a good season. Had they not lost to Kansas, they likely would have made it to the CFP. Or they would have at least had a shot at a rematch against Arizona State or a game against Iowa State in the Big 12 championship. A tougher strength of schedule would have made a case for BYU to get to the CFP, but their SOS ranked #40. Alabama’s SOS ranked #23. Georgia’s SOS ranked #1.
Big 12 needs to stop doing pre-season finish predictions. Those influence pre-season AP poll predictions which have a huge influence on which teams get the benefit of the doubt all season which influences CFP selection. BYU started from a disadvantage bc the Big 12 media told the world before the season that BYU was going to be bad. Same thing happened to ASU, but they took matters into their own hands and got the autobid. With the portal causing massive roster turnover each year, it makes no strategic sense to guess at which rosters will gel and which won’t. It just adds another hurdle for BIG12 and ACC schools to overcome to get playoff spots.
Recruiting rankings are apparently factored into Strength of Schedule, so these "Star Games" DO help the big 2 when star ratings drop just because it was a transfer or recruit lost to another school. SOS is part of overall team rankings. Yes, it matters.
BYU will be right there at the top of THE BIG12. Stacked Roster☆☆☆ Best LBs in the league. Best WRs in the league. LJ Martin is a great RB. DBs snatch & strip balls. #GoCougs #BYUFOOTBALL
Coach prime is a hall of fame level trash talker…but he also knows when to talk trash and when not to. He’s as classy as they come when it’s time to be classy. And talks trash with the best of them when it’s time to talk trash.
It’s really no different from the Alabama/Ole Miss conversation. That loss to Kansas was the dream killer. I know it was a close game, but it shouldn’t have been. It was sloppy and lethargic for nearly all four quarters.
How? By beating a team who OC is a fraud? By beating a team with no OL to speak of? By beating a team with a secondary unwilling to tackle? By beating team that is more interested in self-promoting than the actual game? Nothing was proven in this game.
I'm not sure they were the biggest snub considering that they beat a clearly overrated CU team. That team is nowhere near as good as they were hyped up to be. BYU started the season off great and maybe deserve a spot, but there are 2 or 3 teams we could say that about.
It’s really pretty simple. They couldn’t even get to the Big12 championship. 3rd place B12 beating 4th place B12 (who both lost to Kansas by the way) is NOT a statement
As a BYU fan, I don't agree that BYU was snubbed. The Cougars loss to Kansas kept the Cougars out. Wins matter... and BYU scraped by against Utah and Oklahoma State, but losing to Kansas - that's unacceptable for a CFP team (as is a loss by Notre Dame to Northern Illinois.)
ASU, how does it feel to be used like a pawn. By a guy whose 'university', women nor men, has never won a championship in any NCAA sport. In the entire history of the NCAA. 😂😂😂
BYU lost two games, almost four. If they took care of business during the regular season, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. BYU was the better team in the Alamo Bowl, they were not the better team when they lost to Kansas and ASU. BYU shoulda lost to Utah, but refs bailed them out. The right teams were selected to the CFP. They all took care of business.
In my opinion now that there's money involved and it's legal now. We are going to see money come out of the woodwork to be a top 1-60 team? There's too much talent coming out of highschool to shrink it any smaller!
I'm a BYU fan, and I agree that the BYU loss to Kansas blew the Cougars chance to get in. However, I don't agree that BYU would have lost a first round game. I think it's been proven this season that any good team can compete with, or beat any team in the country.
BYU didn't get snubbed. Based on that logic, then Illinois got snubbed. Nebraska boat raced Colorado. Illinois beat Nebraska. BYU lost to Kansas. Illinois beat Kansas. Illinois' only losses were to #1 Oregon, #4 PSU, and a 7-win Minnesota team. If Minnesota is a bad loss for Illinois, then Kansas is a terrible loss for BYU. Like I said, people care about record when it matters. Then you care about quality wins when it matters. Then you care about quality losses when it matters. The best outcome was to keep BYU, Colorado, Miami, and Illinois out of the playoffs.
BYU is the only great team in the Big 12 after expansion. I knew after Colorado almost got beat by N.Dakota & Nebraska spanked them by halftime Colorado was going get crushed .😂 Undisciplined ! No way any team that has the Top NFL pick & Heisman get EMBARRASSED like that in a bowl game.😂 A true freshman QB (Nebraska) & freshman QB (k state) beat Sanders .🙄
Enjoyed the show. You have content, the mannerisms, and voice. Soothing. You don’t stress me out like some people do when they rant.
Keep grinding!
BYU fan here. Ticks me off that Coach Prime is being hated on. He's flamboyant, but I've always felt that he's sincere. I really believe that he's truly a good dude.
He's not being hated on
It’s a natural response to something that draws attention or that is unconventional.
Always hated over the top people like him but he is very disciplined as a coach and does get loyalty out of his kids which is pretty awesome
I used to not be a Sanders fan but Sitake has given me a change of heart with his positive remarks about him and also Sanders remarks about Sitake
Prime is a clown and literally does nothing.. at all.
Love your show! It is not an exaggeration to say that this probably the best college football podcast around.
Too bad BYU didn't get matched against Alabama or Miami, to play a game outside of the big 12 in a bowl
ESPN clearly does not believe in the new Big12. BYU made a good argument for why it should have gotten the CFP nod over SMU. People forget that BYU was a few yards from the end zone as time expired in both their losses.
Unfortunately wins are decided by points, not yards. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
@@elche1976 but I have heard all weekend from trolls saying that our close wins (winning drives) were also basically losses. So the mob has to figure out what it wants is all we're saying.
Maybe BYU hase an argument over SMU MAYBE. But no one believes in the current Big 12 right now outside of Big 12 fans. BYU looked good most of the season, but some Big 12 teams started off slow. Outside of the over hype of CU, no one really jumped off the paper at anyone. BYU could have won their way in. Lke I said MAYBE BYU deserves a spot, but been Big 12 fans and channels were talking down on them for weeks trying to hype up CU.Is the Big 12 a 2-bid league? That will have to be proved on the field against more higher ranked teams and teams that usually have a shot at the CFP
Almost correct. BYU went for 4th down at the Kansas 16 with 0:46 left in the game but only picked up 8 of the 11 yards they needed for a 1st down. So Kansas had the ball as time expired. But yeah, BYU had gotten to the Kansas 8 yard line with that last pass of theirs.
However, when time expired against ASU, BYU had the ball at midfield.
I think the real thing people forget is that Kansas was a lot better than their record.
Based on ESPN Power Rankings:
BYU lost to #21 (ASU by 5) and #36 (Kansas by 4) while Alabama lost to Tennessee (okay) but then also #28 (OU by 21) and #38 (Vanderbilt by 5)
If SMU can get in then I don’t see why BYU shouldn’t have had an argument to take their spot.
Because bad losses matter.
@@aBrewster29 What was the bad loss? They were 10 yards away from being undefeated, had the same number of losses as SMU, and beat them head to head.
@@aBrewster29 they also had better wins than SMU and the head to head
@@danjohnson8556pagan it was a loss to Kansas a 5-7 team that nearly squandered their victory over pagan Mormon BYzu and that is truth. The same porous argument that you and other homewreckers of the pagan faith and religion of Mormon bull corn about close losses resonates well with SMU barely losing at home to BYzu in similar circumstances and could have been undefeated themselves. SMU had a better record & strength of schedule was actually about the same. Now had SMU have two losses going into the ACC conference championship game and lost to Clemson and still got in over BYzu, then you have a legit argument or SMU wins ACC championship game and Miami or Alabama are chose over BYzu you have a case and a point. But not when you lose at home to a team that finished 5-7 and looked like the team that was 1-5 in the game against Baylor and not the team that went 4-1 headed into the final game against Baylor who was 7-4 and 1 of Baylor’s losses was to a team with a losing record, keep that in mind. Also many Big12 and ACC idiots clamor about SEC playing 8 conference games; what they fck? The Mountain Worst played just 7 conference games and will do so next season and the PAC-Mountain & MWC will be playing 7 conference games in two years from now and in the future unless more schools with football teams are added. Not one damn word about Bozo State and their navigable easy access to success to get a playoff spot. The AAC was vastly better and has been the best G5/6 conference followed by the SBC. So if anything BYU should have taken Boise State place and SMU replaced by Army, and wash my mouth out with soap because I am a Navy veteran and Houston Coog Alumnus for crying out loud.
@@aBrewster29 Notre Dame's NIU loss didn't seem to matter....... Neither did Tennessee's Arkansas loss......
I’m always looking forward to your takes John! Thanks!
Heck of an effort by the Cougs, Wildcats and Cyclones.
Not so much by Tech and West Va.
BYU was very impressive. They should be the preseason favorite to win the Big 12 next year.
Against a Colorado defense that gave up 37 points to Kansas, 31 points to Baylor, 28 points to Nebraska, and 26 points to North Dakota State.
You can make a very strong case for ASU, ISU, KSU or Baylor as well. Perhaps CU or Tech even
I’m surprised to see BYU fans (if I take them at their word) stating that they were not snubbed by being left out of the conversation. They sound more like Utah fans trolling so as a simple Big XII fan, they were absolutely disrespected by the media that sold SMU and the AEZ. The enormous disrespect was not conference to conference, logo to logo, roster to roster, it was literally head to head…on the road to beat it all. The corruption is so deep, the human element and bias needs to be removed and numbers need to make the decisions.
BYU shit the bed.....no sympathy
@@dayolddoughnuts4031Retzlaff was hurt and Ic regrets playing him against KU. Still, it took a fluke punt, Retzlaff int in ez, blown opportunity at end of game, etc.
Unless you're undefeated, let's hear about your losses? 😊
The most despicable thing that Cam Ward did was to play for the TD record and then not play the second half. I could almost excuse not playing at all, but it's the height of selfishness to go for the individual award and then abandon his team. What a lack of character.
It's enough blame to go around the HEAD COACH has the final say so
I would not want that dude as a NFL teammate.
John BYU wasn't trying to prove any points. What you just saw at the Alamo bowl is a sneak peak into next season and years to come!!! BYU is going to be in the mix nationally every year???
😂
@elche1976 Laugh it up! BYU 's recruiting in football along with basketball!!! laugh laugh laugh it up you'll see....
@@ShaunskeeI mean, I'm a BYU fan, but come on man. Be realistic. Bball sure, but football? Football will be perennially a good team, with great teams every once in a while. There is no reason not to think BYU could be top 6 in the Big 12 every year.
I think you saw an uninspired Colorado team. Could it be that Coach Prime will be the new coach of the Dallas Cowboys next season???
@@elche1976 What? Prove us wrong? If you know you know?
BYU does have the kind of team that the powers of the playoffs could not allow to be in the playoffs. BYU should have beat KU in Provo though. That is probably what hurt BYU's chances.
Yeah, they lost 2 out of 3 at the end of the regular season…that sealed their fate.
If BYU were to be selected it would mean Iowa State would have had to be sent.
@@Melodicroger BYU had to be 11-1. I don't like it, Big12 teams either have to win the conference Championship or only have 1 blemish. That's how it is.
@@Rick-wx4md that may be true for other Big 12 teams but BYU (who was once #6 in the country) and Colorado both could win out their in the CFB. Losing late really hurts teams esp when it’s 2 of 3 regular season.
Skataboo is the only RB in college football to have 1500 rushing yards and 500 receiving yards since Christian McCaffrey in 2017
Beast
I didn't think Colorado was very good at all before that game and the game revealed they were horrid. But BYU, they were ready to play! BYU and AZ State are top 20 teams in 2024.
Colorado had some dominating wins. They tied for the league title. The problem for Colorado is that BYU had one of the best defenses in the country.
I'm a PSU grad/fan and let me tell you BYU would have given us a game more so than SMU. BYU are tough kids very physical and should've been in the playoffs. I'm more of a Big 12 fan than Big 10 even though I'm a rabid Penn State guy. Love Kansas BB.
Maybe Penn State should opt out of the B1G and join the Big 12, then y’all could play BYU every year?
All BYU had to do was beat Kansas at home.
They ran into one of those team’s having a tremendous year when they lost to Arizona State on the road, but if they had beaten Kansas, the one loss to Arizona State probably would not have mattered. Who knows, BYU might have beaten Arizona State in the Big 12 title game.
And what about that narrow road win over Utah. That game could have gone either way.
BYU had a good year, but they were on the cusp of a CFP berth, along with teams like Alabama, Miami, South Carolina and a few others who also could make a case for being in the CFP instead of Indiana or SMU.
BYU: "We were snubbed by the College Football Playoff"
Colorado: "Okay, okay, UNCLE !!!"
...
Alabama: "We were snubbed by the College Football Playoff"
Michigan: "Shut up, Bama !!!"
3rd place SEC blown out.
4th place Big Ten blown out.
2nd place ACC team blown out.
Maaaybe they should not have been the at large teams??? But here's what you do NOT do: Invite the 4th place SEC team, the 5th place Big Ten team, or 3rd place ACC team.
IF BYU made it and th esame happened to them, what would be the narrative? This is simple. Play the 4th place team in another conference during the season.
@SonicBoomC98
a) I think you're complicating something that isn't complicated. I'm NOT saying that the selection folks got it wrong. I'm saying that talking heads who advocate for Alabama or Miami or Illinois, don't make any sense since the teams from their conferences that finished ahead of them were overwhelmed.
b) Non-conference schedules are made a couple of years in advance.
c) Even if we could adjust non-conference schedules in the middle of the season, how would you know in October who was going to end up 4th in each conference at the end of the season?
Well one of these things is not like the others, Indiana, SMU, Boise, and Clemson were all fully healthy when blown out.
Tennessee (a running team) lost their RB1 Dylan Sampson on the first drive of the game. Don't think healthy Tennessee gets blown out 42-17.
@@tomdean9381 Everyone knew that Miami's defense wasn't championship level. Maybe Bama just had a bad game. The SEC didn't have their best season but generally I wouldn't be surprised for 3 teams to be good
@ Agree to disagree.
But fact remains,
SEC #3 lost.
SEC #4 lost.
SEC #5 lost.
Hard to argue that SMU should have been replaced by an SEC team.
The only thing it proves is that ESPN, etc really wanted Colorado to be A LOT better than they really were.
It did?
I am w/Brett Yormark on UConn and was a year ago because I think it's a better futures option than BC or Rutgers.
Your comments about Paul Finebaum and his beloved SEC might be tempered with thoughts such as too many fans (NOT of the SOUTHEAST) love their regional or home team or their Alma Mater and want THEIR team to have a fair shake in the national polls & playoffs & especially in the media (that is supposed to be objective). IF their team wins in their conference, especially in the P-4 conferences (glad to see Boise State in the mix this year) they deserve recognition. My point here is that many of us get fatigued by national media people (not to get political but take a look at who won the presidential election in part because of people’s fatigue of obvious media bias…). We are capable of thinking and observing performance without being told what we are supposed to see… Americans love both fairness and meritocracy in sports, and they like to hear good things about THEIR team especially when their team deserves it! GO BYU COUGS! GO BIG12!
BT, Must we drag politics into conversations about sports? The good thing about this college football season is that it has been a terrific distraction from hate politics this year. I am not a fan of trump and was not particularly a fan of biden. I am hopeful for better times in 2025, but I have my doubts. As long as football is there, I can cope.
Paul Finebaum grew up in the south and he works for the SEC network. Would you not expect him to propagate for SEC teams?
Just like John Kurtz does here for the Big 12. Kurtz has a Big 12 bias.
BYU had a good season. Had they not lost to Kansas, they likely would have made it to the CFP. Or they would have at least had a shot at a rematch against Arizona State or a game against Iowa State in the Big 12 championship. A tougher strength of schedule would have made a case for BYU to get to the CFP, but their SOS ranked #40. Alabama’s SOS ranked #23. Georgia’s SOS ranked #1.
yup. byu shoulda been in. There's no question about that.
How do you explain the kid dropping a star from moving from the BIG10 and SEC (Michigan and Texas) to the BIG12 (BYU)?
Have to watch out for the PAC7 showing interesting UConn too as FB only. They are one of the few options to get them to 8
Big 12 needs to stop doing pre-season finish predictions. Those influence pre-season AP poll predictions which have a huge influence on which teams get the benefit of the doubt all season which influences CFP selection. BYU started from a disadvantage bc the Big 12 media told the world before the season that BYU was going to be bad. Same thing happened to ASU, but they took matters into their own hands and got the autobid.
With the portal causing massive roster turnover each year, it makes no strategic sense to guess at which rosters will gel and which won’t. It just adds another hurdle for BIG12 and ACC schools to overcome to get playoff spots.
I’d ask Lane Kiffin what his take would be if he was the head coach of BYU this year.
I some how down that Lane Kiffin would be interested in coaching at BYU.
BYU played hurt--esp Retzlaff, last 3 games, and Holy War has a hangover effect. Should be last game of season.
Recruiting rankings are apparently factored into Strength of Schedule, so these "Star Games" DO help the big 2 when star ratings drop just because it was a transfer or recruit lost to another school.
SOS is part of overall team rankings. Yes, it matters.
BYU will be right there at the top of THE BIG12. Stacked Roster☆☆☆
Best LBs in the league.
Best WRs in the league.
LJ Martin is a great RB.
DBs snatch & strip balls.
#GoCougs #BYUFOOTBALL
Coach prime is a hall of fame level trash talker…but he also knows when to talk trash and when not to. He’s as classy as they come when it’s time to be classy. And talks trash with the best of them when it’s time to talk trash.
It’s really no different from the Alabama/Ole Miss conversation. That loss to Kansas was the dream killer. I know it was a close game, but it shouldn’t have been. It was sloppy and lethargic for nearly all four quarters.
How? By beating a team who OC is a fraud? By beating a team with no OL to speak of? By beating a team with a secondary unwilling to tackle? By beating team that is more interested in self-promoting than the actual game? Nothing was proven in this game.
I'm not sure they were the biggest snub considering that they beat a clearly overrated CU team. That team is nowhere near as good as they were hyped up to be. BYU started the season off great and maybe deserve a spot, but there are 2 or 3 teams we could say that about.
It’s really pretty simple. They couldn’t even get to the Big12 championship. 3rd place B12 beating 4th place B12 (who both lost to Kansas by the way) is NOT a statement
Why did they match two Big-12 teams together? Was it a cancelation game? Just wondering...
Fulfilling unexpired PAC-12 contracts
As a BYU fan, I don't agree that BYU was snubbed. The Cougars loss to Kansas kept the Cougars out. Wins matter... and BYU scraped by against Utah and Oklahoma State, but losing to Kansas - that's unacceptable for a CFP team (as is a loss by Notre Dame to Northern Illinois.)
WVU also poached a BIG10 OL coach too
Get real, this is college football, not a political campaign, where some of the candidates Want people to like them.
ASU, how does it feel to be used like a pawn. By a guy whose 'university', women nor men, has never won a championship in any NCAA sport. In the entire history of the NCAA. 😂😂😂
Go Cougs!!!!!!!!!
By beating up on another XII team...?😂
BYU lost two games, almost four. If they took care of business during the regular season, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. BYU was the better team in the Alamo Bowl, they were not the better team when they lost to Kansas and ASU. BYU shoulda lost to Utah, but refs bailed them out. The right teams were selected to the CFP. They all took care of business.
In my opinion now that there's money involved and it's legal now. We are going to see money come out of the woodwork to be a top 1-60 team? There's too much talent coming out of highschool to shrink it any smaller!
What were the ratings for the Alamo Bowl? Colorado was a media starlet…but BYU was more exciting
Go Clemson.
I like byu over Boise
Quite frankly, I think the playoffs should be limited to the top six teams with AP#1&2 getting the bye.
Hey John, Look 👀 you want fans to post comments but you don’t even take the time to like or comment or reply back, is a suggestion!!!
Please learn to pronounce the name of the Bowl you are discussing!
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You're delusional.
Byu has no business even being considered for the playoffs. Miami, Ole Miss, bama and s. Car are all far superior and should get in ahead of byu
Man we all knew that was going to happen hell byu boys are grown men and Colorado boys was just that 22 years old going up against 30 year old hell
They would've lost in the first round too smh 🤦 they had their chances and lost.
I'm a BYU fan, and I agree that the BYU loss to Kansas blew the Cougars chance to get in. However, I don't agree that BYU would have lost a first round game. I think it's been proven this season that any good team can compete with, or beat any team in the country.
BYU didn't get snubbed. Based on that logic, then Illinois got snubbed. Nebraska boat raced Colorado. Illinois beat Nebraska. BYU lost to Kansas. Illinois beat Kansas. Illinois' only losses were to #1 Oregon, #4 PSU, and a 7-win Minnesota team. If Minnesota is a bad loss for Illinois, then Kansas is a terrible loss for BYU. Like I said, people care about record when it matters. Then you care about quality wins when it matters. Then you care about quality losses when it matters. The best outcome was to keep BYU, Colorado, Miami, and Illinois out of the playoffs.
No it didn't they would've got smoke checked by all the winners
Nonsense. BYU proved to be much better than expected, and most of the teams in the SEC and Big 10 were worse.
😆 go home you're drunk, the Mormons would be cellar dwellers in the SEC or Big10
BYU is the only great team in the Big 12 after expansion. I knew after Colorado almost got beat by N.Dakota & Nebraska spanked them by halftime Colorado was going get crushed .😂 Undisciplined ! No way any team that has the Top NFL pick & Heisman get EMBARRASSED like that in a bowl game.😂 A true freshman QB (Nebraska) & freshman QB (k state) beat Sanders .🙄
Avery Johnson is actually a true sophomore