DRY POUR Concrete is STRONGER than we ALL thought

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  • Testing dry pour concrete today, impact and compression testing. Crush testing dry pour concrete with a 28 day cure! DRY POUR CONCRETE VS QUICK CRETE BAG MIX.
    JUST PAY THE MONEY AND GET A CONCRETE TRUCK TO DELIVER THE CEMENT AT A 6 SLUMP AND POIR YOU CONCRETE DRIVEWAY OR PATIO. YOU CAN EVEN ADD STUFF LIKE FIRE PITS AND STAMP CONCRETE
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    #everythingaboutconcrete
    #mikedayconcrete

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  • @GRUBB-MUDD
    @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +19

    *My thought are just hire me to do your concrete instead of fry pour... especially if you are a BIG TH-cam CHANNEL! open to colabs.... tag your favorite creator*

    • @theSkavenger84
      @theSkavenger84 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everyone loves a good “fry” pour 😂 hate when that happens

    • @terencemerritt
      @terencemerritt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Cajun country livin page has started a craze. I hear people giving directions like most one time per inch every thirty minutes then soak every hour. Like how tf they even know lol 😂

    • @DellFreaks
      @DellFreaks ปีที่แล้ว

      @GRUBB-MUDD What is the general pricing per sq ft if you could calculate that? In your area or what you charge would be nice :) I got quoted at $20 sq/ft for a 800sqft slab. Would like to hear your thoughts or maybe even a series on you estimating prices of slabs or helping people with a second opinion on quotes !!

    • @sgtjonson
      @sgtjonson ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you start opening franchises in my area!

    • @ronhanish
      @ronhanish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My guess is mist one time, then lightly soak it completely saturated

  • @Stix513
    @Stix513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Okay, my opinion on this video. Dry mix is okay if you're doing fence post or something like that I pour a lot of footers. And sometimes we have to anchor to the concrete. On a dry mix, it never holds. As soon as you start drilling, it just turns to dust. Not really a fan of the dry mix.

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Michael Builds does a lot of dry pours, and has used anchors for sill plates with no problems. Good and bad wet pours. Good and bad dry pours.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I juat am seeing this stix, it def turned to dust! Mush respect. What do u gota do to get the monotization back?

    • @Stix513
      @Stix513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GRUBB-MUDD Because I haven't really been making videos. They're saying. I only have 3000 watch hours, need a 1000 more.

    • @Doomzdayxx
      @Doomzdayxx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FisherCatProductions Yes. Over watering wet mix can ruin it. Both done properly, wet mix still turns out superior in every single way. Dry still does have it's merits though, for sure.

    • @steveww07
      @steveww07 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FisherCatProductions his boyfriend loves them.

  • @carolinahillcountry
    @carolinahillcountry ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Appreciate y'all taking the time to test that out. Actually entertaining too GM.

  • @skillsrobles
    @skillsrobles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    how about adding rebar and do this test again

  • @rexmundi8154
    @rexmundi8154 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When I was a kid I "helped" pour a garage slab with my granddad. It was about 2" thick. We had all the gravel and sand in 2 piles, and bag cement in the truck bed. They made a pile of sand and gravel on a piece of plywood in the middle of the slab with a divot in the center. They filled that divot with water then added the cement to that a few bags at a time. They put in x number of shovels of sand and gravel. Then they mixed it all together with masons hoes that have holes in the center. It was 2 guys and me. We just folded everything over and over keeping the water from running off. It didn’t take that long and because everything was just a shovel full, it wasn’t that hard. After using a traditional drum mixer with bag concrete, I think their way might have been just as fast and less work. You weren’t lifting bags high up, pushing wheelbarrows around. Maybe it wasn’t as well mixed, but the slab is still there 50 years later. It has a few cracks, but we didn’t compact the ground very well or add a thick base of gravel.

  • @sgtjonson
    @sgtjonson ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Anybody else worry about Grubb and Dad's ankles? Not worth it if it breaks!

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought about it when I was watching later 😂

    • @GRUBB_MUDD_2
      @GRUBB_MUDD_2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol😂

  • @TattooNYou
    @TattooNYou ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video boss. Id say next pour you do, make a square with their mix and see what happens with the 10lb weight. After thought. Would some rebar make a difference for either? Another test maybe.

  • @bh9420
    @bh9420 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow interesting test, I have seen the folks doing dry pour concrete on youtube, and cringe every time, lol. Yeah, my bet is the bag mix doesn't contain a great deal of cement, and the manufactures, are dialing it back to save money. Adding an extra 1kg to 1.5kg to a 20kg bag should increase strength to around 30mpa, that would be a curious result!!

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Premix in bags is available in strengths of 5000 psi or more. That's more than adequate for a dry pour shed slab, sidewalk, etc.

  • @sgtjonson
    @sgtjonson ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Next time do a drop test over solid surface. Nobody is pouring concrete at 1-1/2" suspended in air between two pieces of wood. OR next time you have a bit extra on a job of average truck mix... put that in the mold and see how it compares. Probably won't be as brittle and crumbly, but I could see it cracking

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😂. U r right

  • @ericrhodesbusiness
    @ericrhodesbusiness ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Him holding the 10lbs weight
    Me: Please god don't break😂

  • @OlDirtyBandit
    @OlDirtyBandit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should drop a weight on them without them being elevated because they will be poured directly on the ground which should offer the concrete more impact resistance. Not trying to say that testing with them on the ground will prove anything different. Just a thought.

  • @kevin8360
    @kevin8360 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have one word for you... PERCOLATION.
    Ok, so here's the long version: A dry pour will never be as strong as a wet pour... period. The reasoning is called percolation. As the bag concrete travels from plant to warehouse, warehouse to store, store to home, it is exposed to lots of vibration. The vibration causes the smaller grains (cement) to settle into whatever air hole it can fit in, the sand to do the same, and this causes the materials to segregate... meaning the bag becomes less thoroughly mixed. The areas that have too much sand or too much rock are clearly weak points, as those areas have less cement to bind them. That's why the wetting and mixing process is so important. It remixes everything back to a consistent mix.
    If you don't care if the concrete cracks or has a much weaker than rated strength, then dry pour.
    If you do care, then wet pour.
    The math is simple too... If it's a very small amount needed, then grab some bags. If you need a yard, then get the truck on the way! The concrete truck is cheaper and a lot less labor intensive.
    1 yard of concrete = 45 x 80 pound bags. (A 10' x 10' x 3.5" pad is barely over 1 yard)
    1 yard of concrete delivered =

    • @ctlt-pg4tm
      @ctlt-pg4tm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except you forgot to factor in the ready mix minimum yardage charge

  • @stoshbeast1
    @stoshbeast1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Viewing from Kokomo, Indiana! I don't know shit about concrete but interesting video man!

  • @isabellavision
    @isabellavision ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good test, thanks for adding to the body of knowledge around dry pour. If would be nice to know what brand and "type" of concrete mix you used for this test, because others have found that even with wet mixing, there can be great variations in quality between brands.
    In addition, as some others have noted, it would be interesting to see how some rebar would affect the outcome. For any slab you'd use rebar with traditional wet mix, you should use it with dry pour, that doesn't change.
    I was surprised by how similarly the two methods performed, though. In short, no one is claiming that dry poured concrete is AS good or AS strong as wet mix, but maybe it's strong enough for many around-the-home and garden projects.
    Also, for people like me who don't have a mixer, wheelbarrow, or other tools and just need a 4 x 6 slab in my inaccessible backyard, it's become difficult to find a contractor (in my area of the Midwest, anyway) willing to even give an estimate, they don't want the job. If they do, it's expensive and will be delivered on their time schedule, whether it's a good time for me to have it done or not. I understand that-- with the investment in their equipment, big jobs are their (and your) livelihood.
    Again, thanks for keeping an open mind and doing a good test.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Menards brand. Yeah I should have put that in the description or something thanks for the comment and the view. Glad it helped a little

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think dry pour is ok. For like the small diy project around the house. Exactly like u said

    • @isabellavision
      @isabellavision ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GRUBB-MUDD
      At least one other video I’ve watched directly compared Menards “Mastercraft” concrete with Quikrete and found it to be inferior:
      th-cam.com/video/nFhSXqOyF5k/w-d-xo.html
      It’s just too cheap for me to expect much from it!

  • @EverGone03
    @EverGone03 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this test is NOT a compression test, but a tensile stress test. This test only proves that concrete isn't for tensile stress (which we already know for ages). thats why they have rebar inside to for the tensile stress. and the concrete handle compressive stress.

    • @bdubb515
      @bdubb515 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Clearly you don’t know what a tensile test is, this is an impact test not a tensile test, tensile strength is the amount of force it takes to tear something apart

    • @marknussbaum8394
      @marknussbaum8394 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're spot-on. His standing on the concrete was a tensile test, not compressive. Concrete addresses compression load, not tension. We don't use concrete to suspend bridges, we use steel cable. We need someone to dry pour a cylinder and test it in as close a manner as possible to concrete compressive test ASTM C39. Another test that would be interesting to run is ASTM C666 to check freeze-thaw durability. Dry pour is a logical outgrowth of ever-higher costs for concrete; the guy who wants a simple 10'x12' pad for a backyard building or patio will likely get an estimate today for about $1500-$2500 for a wet pour, or he can dry pour a 4" thick pad using about 70 bags of quikcrete at $5/bag, plus $30 of form boards plus striker boards, which is about $400 in materials plus delivery plus his own labor. And, the concrete truck doesn't rut up the yard. Concrete trucks are god-awful on yards. Concrete contractors are slowly pricing themselves out of the typical residential flat pour.

    • @fuckingpippaman
      @fuckingpippaman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bdubb515 🤣🤣🤣 my god the nonsense read

    • @fuckingpippaman
      @fuckingpippaman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeeeep @@marknussbaum8394

    • @daveisnothere
      @daveisnothere 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marknussbaum8394 I agree, have you also noticed it is always the concrete contractors that do these tests? Though I think this guy actually watered it more than most do. One test I watched it was obvious they didnt use enough water. Concrete is a chemical reaction between the powder and water, the only real difference between wet and dry pour is the wet pour is mixed and dry pour is just soaked, given the same amount of water both should be identical. Perhaps someone needs to put the dry pour down in layers, wetting each one as they go and then compare them under realistic ways that the concrete would actually be stressed in real slabs, not dropping a weight on it when it is suspended between 2 boards.

  • @buffalokrisgoldprospecting
    @buffalokrisgoldprospecting ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This demo was awsome. I'm with you on this one. Bag mix is crap

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯%crap . I always put extra Portland cement in my mix when I use bag mix. Thanks for watching bro.

  • @DK_tk3
    @DK_tk3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Lol zero chance that’s 200lb more like 50lb

    • @adambergeron6991
      @adambergeron6991 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was thinking the same thing lol

    • @R900DZ
      @R900DZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely not 200 😂

    • @hmg8915
      @hmg8915 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely not 200lb.. maybe 100lb at most

    • @kenwillis8487
      @kenwillis8487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Y’all ever moved tractor weights? They are cast iron and do come in 200lb sizes just like that. I have two 200 lb and one 100lb plate on the front of my tractor!

    • @FlailWilhelm
      @FlailWilhelm 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      1” steel plate is 40# per sq ft. So 50# is about right

  • @timbob987
    @timbob987 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So the takeaway is not to use bag mix for bridge building!

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts 💯%

  • @jeffsim8664
    @jeffsim8664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive done math .. in my area if your pouring 2 yards it is actually cheaper getting premix delivered in a truck than buying by the bag and mixing or dry pouring.. even after paying for small load charge..
    And if your hand mixing in a wherl barrow doing a bag at a time you will never get it all poured before missing your finishing time frame..
    Thats where drypour vomes in. But compare the cost with a premix delivet. You might be suprized.

  • @BohdanCzmola
    @BohdanCzmola 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wet-pour concrete strength varies with the amount of pour water used, the wetter the pour, the weaker the mix. The 10-pound weight shouldn't have broken the concrete. He probably used an excessively wet mix.... There's nothing wrong with bagged concrete, it's the same as what comes in a redi-mix truck. Follow the bag instructions regarding water amount and you will get a very strong concrete.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its far from as good as ready mix. For 1 the agg ia pea gravel not 1 inch minus rock. 2 ready mix has fiber and alot more cement. So it ia stronger. I mixed it at q 5 slump

  • @flintrock8433
    @flintrock8433 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't do dry poor on anything other than the ground if you want a fair assessment. Also, dry poor is easy to do in tight places where you can't get a truck. A pumper will cost you $500 or more. The dry poor will be better on the ground than a board

  • @corey7348
    @corey7348 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not just a 100 more though, the difference here is $1,300 doing it yourself with bags on a 20x20. a truck wants $2400 for 8 yards here

  • @theartofconcrete
    @theartofconcrete ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey curious if TH-cam still will monetize your channel even reposting videos?

  • @theSkavenger84
    @theSkavenger84 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Concrete never stops curing. 😅 c’mon man, i know you know that one. Cheers from New Jersey Homie

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah it doesn't , your 👍. It's supposed like 98% after 28 days or some shit. Who knows . Cheers from indy

    • @theSkavenger84
      @theSkavenger84 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GRUBB-MUDD good stuff man. Keep up the good content 👍🏼

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theSkavenger84 thank you man

    • @concreter6832
      @concreter6832 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@GRUBB-MUDDthey say concrete never stops curing,why does it need replacing around 25 years in our weather,I am not sure.

  • @domlipski5226
    @domlipski5226 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm gonna air-fry mine and add oregano. Might even drizzle some olive oil on it.

    • @FreeAmerican-mm2my
      @FreeAmerican-mm2my 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also, only hold the hose in your left hand when spraying the dry pour concrete.

  • @AkornzStash
    @AkornzStash 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When ever I use quickcrete bag mix for small stuff, I would always ADD a shovel full or two of portland cement to it when I was mixing it. Makes it a Lot stronger and not brittle. However, can't really do that for a dry pour.

    • @ifyoudisagreeyouarewrong
      @ifyoudisagreeyouarewrong 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      sure you can... mix them dry

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or just buy a 5000 psi bag mix. Wet or dry it will be stronger than a standard bag of Sakrete.

  • @hardworker645
    @hardworker645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello and God bless you and your family sir,,, blessings from Europe

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Same to you!

  • @ctlt-pg4tm
    @ctlt-pg4tm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dry is Good for small slabs because ready mix has a minimum load charge that is super expensive

  • @budsatawny
    @budsatawny ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done, true test of strength. Pre-mix is the ONLY way to go!

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly 💯

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sorry, but this test did not prove "Pre-mix is the ONLY way to go." Using that logic, you should have tested the wet slab against a 10,000 psi mix.. Would you conclude that "10,000 psi is the ONLY way to go"? Nope. Because you don't use a 10K mix if 3500 psi will do. If a dry pour has the needed strength, it's perfectly acceptable.

    • @budsatawny
      @budsatawny 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FisherCatProductions There's a reason why cement trucks don't bring the mix dry. If dry pour is that great why isn't it used in buildings, bridges, and roads??

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@budsatawny I answered your surley question in my previous response. You don't use dry pours in bridges and roads because a dry pour doesn't have "the needed strength. I never, as you suggested, quantified dry pour as being "that great". That's you putting words in my mouth. I clearly stated that dry pour is suited for projects that only need dry pour strength. Not exactly a tortuous concept to grasp.

    • @Doomzdayxx
      @Doomzdayxx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FisherCatProductions I think they mean pre-mix is the only way to bring the concrete to it's full potential. Properly mixing produces a superior end product, and that's not even debatable. But with that said, dry pour can be "good enough" in some applications.

  • @FXPips11
    @FXPips11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice,,, maybe try a run with rebar?

  • @ROMAN-oy5ju
    @ROMAN-oy5ju 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive done a few dry experiments doing shower pans. Dry is weaker for sure, can handle Less PSI. The more its packed the stronger it gets.

  • @C0braChicken2
    @C0braChicken2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can see on a thinner pour, it working better.. now try it again on a 3.5-6" slab

  • @deepwinter77
    @deepwinter77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also I would say a better test would be a crush test,
    Your never going to have concrete taking a tensile load without rebar.
    If you do a cube test it would give you better more consistent test

  • @deepwinter77
    @deepwinter77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd say dry is way less
    Consistent.
    If you don't get enough water on it.
    Also I would never use it on anything suspended or anything bearing weight.

  • @texasdrivewayparkinglotrep3303
    @texasdrivewayparkinglotrep3303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow really surprised at the results crazy!

  • @shrimpinpat
    @shrimpinpat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m doing just a little pad on the back side of my house. I was going to dry pour because it doesn’t need to be all that strong or last forever but might as well just mix it right

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do what u feel comfortable doing bro

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dry pour makes more and more sense as the project gets bigger. Most DIY people don't want to attempt a wet mix 20 x 20 patio. Four 10 x 10 dry pads are easy-peasy. A small pad can easily be wet mixed on a piece of plywood, so no big deal either way. A small dry mix is certainly fine, but the benefit of "being easier" decreases.

  • @darianwilliams3452
    @darianwilliams3452 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I believe these contractors are just worried that they can’t overcharge people anymore. Because people are doing these jobs on their own. For a fraction of the price. No mixing, so no equipment rental for that. No labor cost. Just materials. I would be against it too.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What up man, thanks for checking out the long form. Tbh it wasnt bad

  • @jmconcretecoloradosprings
    @jmconcretecoloradosprings ปีที่แล้ว

    It's nice to see a pro test this. I usually test stuff at home because no one will complain but me if I make a mess.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂

    • @Dapper_Dillinger504
      @Dapper_Dillinger504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@GRUBB-MUDDwhere you guys at in Indiana ? I see your guys with Purdue hats on, I live in Lafayette and I have 4+ years clean from heroin. I got clean after moving back home to Lafayette from new Orleans. Keep up the good work bro salud

    • @professorg8383
      @professorg8383 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Pros" almost always get dry pour wrong because their minds are locked into doing wet pour. Right in the beginning the guy talks about wetting and says "drenched it real good" and thinks he probably did it better than most. Well there is mistake one!! it's because his mind is worked into wet pour.
      To do dry pour right, the key is watering and you need to do it slowly on a schedule and you don't drench it!! That works somewhat OK for a fence post but is not good for a slab. The way dry pour works is from the very gradual even migration from the top down. If the surface gets wet with a little water beginning to stand on it you are using too much water!
      Correctly done, dry pour ends up using the very minimum recommended water, slowly absorbed to he optimum amount of water, sort of like using a vey stiff mix of wet pour. Most pros know that a very stiff mix makes the strongest concrete. But it is much harder to work and finish. The cement, sand and stone are different densities. Too much water and it tries to settle by weight.
      The color of dry pour looks different, That is because the mix remains uniform.
      Pros keep trying to "fix" dry pour as they go because it doesn't behave like they are used to. They do this subconsciously because of what is ingrained in their minds about wet concrete. In fact, rookies with very little concrete often do better dry pours because they just follow the directions precisely.
      The first best thing you can do for dry pour, is to forget everything you know about wet concrete. In psychology this is referred to as a paradigm shift. It is not easy to retrain our brains,

  • @eharris6347
    @eharris6347 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about when they lay bags of concrete down and wet them
    How’s that hold up

  • @tanthony298
    @tanthony298 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bag mix is sht nowadays especially quikcrete

  • @KragonPebble
    @KragonPebble 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The dry pour may have cured all the way through, but it pulled the rocks, though, when it broke. If the cement paste bonded with the aggregate inside, it would have actually snapped some of the rocks in half. In this case you can see it left some rocks in and pulled the rocks from the other piece out. See the voids where the rocks were at 4:15 ?

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate the detailed review

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya' which is why it is used for light duty slabs. Everyone understands won't be as strong as wet mix, but you don't always need wet mix strength. Frankly, I was surprised how well it compared. The only measured test I've seen placed it about 2/3 its rated wet-strength--which also surprised.me.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FisherCatProductions i think if u do it right, and soak it alot. I dont think it will be any less stronger than wet mix from a bag

    • @fuckingpippaman
      @fuckingpippaman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but it didn't make any difference.

  • @chadatkins9053
    @chadatkins9053 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice upload brother

  • @Salty_Kraken
    @Salty_Kraken 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All that shit talking on dry pour and it didn't matter 😂😂😂

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I go live alot btw

  • @mastertech5036
    @mastertech5036 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video! I'm doing research for a dry pour myself... yeah, lazy as you said. On other videos, they smoothed out the concrete & edged it real nice before & after the first wet down. The strength is definitely there! Also, you didn't use any rebar/mesh. I think that would have made more of a difference. I'm still tittering between dry pour & buying a mixer... Only thing that's holding me back is I don't have room for a mixer after the job is done!

    • @concreter6832
      @concreter6832 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hire 1.

    • @markdoumert
      @markdoumert ปีที่แล้ว

      Get a mixer, the difference isnt just compressive and tensile strength as shown in the video. The dry slab chipped and flaked, and when the pieces were dropped it was releasing aggregate and the cement was crumbling away, which are signs of an improper mix, ie either not enough cement, unhydrated cement, or diluted cement which would be from a poor mix (not a factor here, its all the same prebagged product), or improper water content, either too high or too low. Too high water content is a common issue in house slabs, too much water is added into the truck or during finishing to make it easier to work with. If you take a grinder to a slab like that it starts doing the exact same thing, crumbling and throwing rocks. In either case its a sign that the water content was improper and caused a significant drop in yield strength and surface density. In this circumstance its because 1) there isn’t enough water to properly hydrate the mix, there may be enough water volume but mechanical agitation is needed to evenly hydrate the cement. And 2) nothing can be done on a dry pour to densify the surface. On a regular pour you will screed, bull float, edge, mag, and trowel the surface. Each of those steps being done as the concrete is getting harder and harder, which compacts fine aggregate and cement on the surface and making a dense layer. If you want a nice looking surface that will last a long time and hold up to abrasion you need to do all those finishing steps.

  • @amz33894
    @amz33894 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys need to say if it's rapid set or structural grade. All concrete has a big difference between compression and tension strength with or without Rio bar.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its regualr sac crete

  • @jjnatteri1245
    @jjnatteri1245 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't know if we learned something here but at least it was hilarious

  • @R50_J0
    @R50_J0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So no one understands what “full cure time” is?
    Concrete develops its strength slowly after the initial set.
    Wait at least a month before do those kinds of tests. Preferably 3 to 6 months.

  • @BloodSweatTearsConcrete
    @BloodSweatTearsConcrete ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be cool to see if the redimix plant could do a break test ?

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that would be cool. I did a driveway for a girl who worked at a break test place and our driveway test did really well. And that mix even had flyash in it

  • @Steakholder01
    @Steakholder01 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless you're building a bridge deck or a suspended building slab, you're test method does not represent the "in place" concrete. If you place any concrete on undisturbed earth or substrate that does not yield, it will not crack like your test showed. Possibly with a loaded semi truck or a tank, but not common vehicles or pedestrian traffic.

    • @jameswarner7435
      @jameswarner7435 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ground can seem pretty hard, but in most areas it still makes for a surprisingly unsupportive substrate. Some faster than others, but nearly all soils strength goes down as the amount of water in it increases. Around where I live, fields that you can drive a pickup on without leaving any ruts when they're dry, become a whole different beast when its wet. A hungry sticky clay beast thats trying to swallow my pickup now that its wet. It goes from solid ground to bottomless muck and the only difference is a few inches of rain falling in the week before. The long and cold winters here cause massive frost heaving everywhere that isn't either extremely well drained or underneath a heated and insulated structure. And not much can withstand that, the frost is like an unstoppable force that raises the surface of the ground a foot above where it usually is, and it never settles back down perfectly in the spring. Dry pour is only really suited to areas where the climate is desert or near desert because of the problems mentioned above. And the only exception I can think of to that is places where you'd be laying it directly on exposed bedrock.

  • @blown503
    @blown503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if you put down 6 mil plastic first the bottom will eventually get the moisture you need

    • @daveisnothere
      @daveisnothere 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ..or water the ground then water it in layers, as in put down an inch of mix, water it, then another inch and water that, etc. All these tests seem to be where the 'dry pour' wasnt watered enough.

  • @HuntsT
    @HuntsT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One handing 200lbs. Riiight.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Easily

  • @jhippl
    @jhippl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in some areas you cant get a truck out to save your life, I am on a list got 5 yards in 3 mths and it will be 4k just for that.

  • @theSkavenger84
    @theSkavenger84 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Annnd we’re off 😂 this is how they pour concrete on the “west coast”

  • @michele21auntiem
    @michele21auntiem ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good demo!

  • @marclski8052
    @marclski8052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not the same test you allowed the first piece to flex every time you stepped on it, not the same test!

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It still showed if u do dry pour right it is pretty strong

  • @franksykes4969
    @franksykes4969 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice effort, you just proved that concrete has very poor tinsel strenght, thats why reinforcing was invented. The real test would be compressive testing.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate u watching!

  • @VenturaIT
    @VenturaIT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    once it sets up you want to keep it wet curing for 1 month, it will be much stronger if you cure it correctly

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats facts and that is kinda how i did it. I watered that lil piece for 3 weeks. Anywatching this guy is 100% correcr

  • @sameasnone
    @sameasnone 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Definitely wasn’t $100 more for me. It was over $1,000, well over that, I got two quotes

  • @chadatkins9053
    @chadatkins9053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait to come and do another pour with u guys

    • @chadatkins9053
      @chadatkins9053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got a scooter finally I jus need to get a battery and fix the fuel line. It feels like I'm never going to have the money to get it running. I'm super stressed. I can't even get my my boss to loan me a little bit of money

    • @terencemerritt
      @terencemerritt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chadatkins9053you seem like a really hard worker and could sure use a break and catch some good luck. Hopefully things get better for you brother

  • @kevkev5935
    @kevkev5935 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally found the secret to build back better.

  • @MrRoyBatty1
    @MrRoyBatty1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was given a price of 3200.00 for a 20x20 or I could dry pour for 680.00. What would you do?

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you want to save money, the answer is a no-brainer. If you are going to drive on it, it's also a no brainer.

  • @darylsmith9318
    @darylsmith9318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like my concrete like I like my women. Big and heavy.

  • @johnphillips3512
    @johnphillips3512 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder rebar inside the dry poor will do

  • @HossConstructionDXB
    @HossConstructionDXB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Grubb. The dry pour will save a lot of time i think. But what about the money? Since they are great in quality and strength, Which method is cost effective?

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly... Like I said some people are scared to even attempt to pour regular concrete. Even mixing. They are scared. Anyways thanks for watching

  • @hammerridecycling7630
    @hammerridecycling7630 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    is this good for 20x20 sqf of patio?

  • @Sludge73
    @Sludge73 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So many things here.... suitcase tractor weight isn't 200lbs.
    Bag mix not meant for anything under 2 inches thick.
    Concrete has support under it not running a span.
    All the dry pours are just lazy. Its not that much more effort to mix with water and pour these TH-cam dry pour projects the size that most are.

  • @riverdog8796
    @riverdog8796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry, know your in the business, but theres not alot of difference in the inside body of the 2 slabs. Almost identical. Foot traffic slab? No difference. Vehicle driveway? Wet mix

  • @mr.gabriel382
    @mr.gabriel382 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That weight dropped is like a brick hammer. Of course, it's going to shatter.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ran out of weights

    • @mr.gabriel382
      @mr.gabriel382 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GRUBB-MUDD I have done dry pour. You missed a step. Misting the ground before you dump. This way, you absorb from both directions.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr.gabriel382 I def did that, but like I said an inch and a half thick is best

  • @joebobjenkins7837
    @joebobjenkins7837 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My issue isnt scared or lazy, im trying to build a shed in the woods where I dont have any water.

  • @jasonbaxter5502
    @jasonbaxter5502 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya all the fence guys are doing it. So every time it rains I have to go back and fixe bent fence

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh?

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We set 4x4s and chain link fence posts in dry concrete for 25 years. Flawlessly straight with no braces needed. Never had any of hundreds of them fail. The only way to pull them out was with a front-end loader, and they came in a solid chunk.

  • @Jc23812
    @Jc23812 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you drop the weight on the dry poor but not on the other one??

  • @maxarellano8113
    @maxarellano8113 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you patch its called dry packing 😊

  • @christopherort2889
    @christopherort2889 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lmao
    I've been a Mason for over 50 years.
    Dry pour concrete is crapola

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣🤣

  • @woozy607
    @woozy607 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bag mix Concrete isn’t meant to be strong at 2 inches thick

  • @desertcityentertainment
    @desertcityentertainment 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dry pour is just as labor intensive as wet concrete, it is not "the lazy's man way." There may be some advantages to one or the other.

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dry pour is can be 3x easier than wet pour, depending on job size and skill levels being compared. However that does not make it a lazy way. If it produces a product adequate for your needs, go for it.

    • @desertcityentertainment
      @desertcityentertainment 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The only major difference is mixing the concrete. In the video he said, "You might as well spend and extra $100 more and get a ready mix truck." Why wouldn't we call that the lazy mans way? I personally don't think any way is lazy, and once you do it with a reasonable slab, you won't either. @@FisherCatProductions

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@desertcityentertainment Exactly. Just because something is easier, cheaper, or faster doesn't automatically make it a "short cut" or "lazy". A dry pour is the only option for many people who want to do their own slab. If you don't think a dry pour is considerably easier than a wet pour, I question if you've done either.

    • @desertcityentertainment
      @desertcityentertainment 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FisherCatProductions I don't mind the questioning me, you should question someone you know nothing about if you care that much. All I was saying is that it isn't a lazy job, you appear to agree, therefore I have nothing to go back and forth with you about?

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@desertcityentertainment Having poured concrete all my life--redimix and hand mixed--I just want to assure people that dry pouring is IMMENSELY easier, especially on a medium size project. Especially at my age (72). Especially if there are only 1 or 2 of you. Especially if you are reluctant to dive into a wet pour with no experience. (But only for light duty slabs) Ciao!

  • @nochops1781
    @nochops1781 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Click bait nonsense. That is not the way to test concrete strength. Try a real compression test and it will show that properly mixed concrete will be about five times as strong as dry mix.

  • @Hiddencomment007
    @Hiddencomment007 ปีที่แล้ว

    ws that cortinas voice at the end? dudes a sharpshooting beast

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it was
      He also used to have a concrete channel and was really successful. I didn't even know about his other bigger channel. Until I posted that short. Have u seen it. It's is funny as f

    • @Hiddencomment007
      @Hiddencomment007 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah he was into barndaminiums, think he still is, but made a machine shop to make muzzle devives for shooting. dudes a genius and super innovative. his shooting channel is just eric cortina@@GRUBB-MUDD im out in northeastern ohio man and id love to pour with you one day just for the fun of the pour. or if u come out this way you can pour with us called northeastern concrete. im also a recovering a junk addict of 15 yrs, God gave me numerous chances to get clean cuz i needed them. i relate to you and it just goes to show how resilient and stubborn we addicts are. aint nothing stopping us but ourselves. god bless you brother and i hope nothing but the best for you, your pops and the company homie. hope we can pour someday in the future

  • @TzNuts
    @TzNuts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If that concrete breaks while you are on it one legged it would of snapped your tibia

  • @kurtistaylor6226
    @kurtistaylor6226 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Concrete is useless at thickness, it not designed to flex you drop a hard weigh it gonna crack off a truck or not doesn't matter

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No doubt, i was just surprised iy held uo that long and cured that decent

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for wstchibg. Check out my other concrete vlogs, if u havnt yet

  • @gayesherman4959
    @gayesherman4959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would say concrete in a bag should only be used for underground work such as fence posts or like if you are going to set a strip drain just to level it

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FACTS

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5000 psi concrete in a bag is as strong as 5000 psi from a batch plant.

    • @lachlanitis2311
      @lachlanitis2311 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FisherCatProductions if its mixed correctly yes. A dry pour is not going to go to strength champ, just so you know.

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lachlanitis2311 LOL my response went to the wrong post. Sorry lad.

  • @jimsmith9931
    @jimsmith9931 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need project farm to do the testing…….

  • @maxarellano8113
    @maxarellano8113 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im so curious though

  • @Agustin-jo8mv
    @Agustin-jo8mv ปีที่แล้ว

    7:47 😂😂

  • @jamesthompson6851
    @jamesthompson6851 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone else questioning how he's calculating some of those numbers?

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If r r dumb enough to dry pour in the 1st place. This video is for u

  • @lachlanitis2311
    @lachlanitis2311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being a concreter myself i know the dry pour concrete is rediculous. But a better test is a gradual compressive test instead. This test not very consistent or in a controlled environment.

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂 its all we had

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's ridiculous why? Because you say so? If you've never done a dry pour , how would you have a clue. Considering there are dozens of videos of successful projects with follow-ups, I tend to take their evidence over your uninformed opinion.

    • @lachlanitis2311
      @lachlanitis2311 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FisherCatProductions my uninformed opinion is 20 years of experience champ. How much experience do you have as a concreter or engineer?

    • @lachlanitis2311
      @lachlanitis2311 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FisherCatProductions if you want a shit product with a shit looking finish go right ahead and do dry pour. I just happen to know the science behind concrete and il stick to my wet pours.

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lachlanitis2311 You (obviously) have ZERO experience in doing dry pours. Therefore your opinion concerning them is uninformed. Nothing personal. Just a fact. BTW, working for the state Fish Commission over 25 years, I supervised poured, and finished miles of slabs and walls for fish raceways. Poured boat ramps, piers, and bulkheads above and below water. Designed and performed repairs to dams and raceways using custom forms and high pressure concrete. Worked with hand mixed, batch trucks, pumpers, and crane drops. None of which qualifies me to comment on dry pours. Doing some successful dry pours does qualify me to at least have an informed opinion...champ.

  • @nicabla9435
    @nicabla9435 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dry mix is just good for post

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't even do that for post, but people wanted the video so I made it

    • @nicabla9435
      @nicabla9435 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TheUnlikelyGardener that's right. Like fence post or sumthin

    • @GRUBB-MUDD
      @GRUBB-MUDD  ปีที่แล้ว

      @TheUnlikelyGardener I put a hose in the hole and a steak and mix it the best I can

  • @LennyTim
    @LennyTim ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice.

  • @GrumpyAndCricket
    @GrumpyAndCricket ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep!

  • @OscarGarcia-ke6fy
    @OscarGarcia-ke6fy ปีที่แล้ว

    Science 😂

  • @davidsavage2158
    @davidsavage2158 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One you did NOT do the tests the same, two you had your mind made up going in.

  • @rhythemandpoetry
    @rhythemandpoetry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hes a methematician nothing he said was right... dude weighs like 140 lbs

  • @thecitizen61
    @thecitizen61 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You hilljacks just said bag mix is crap then you say spend more money on BAG MIX LOL WTF

  • @fuckingpippaman
    @fuckingpippaman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so no difference? 🤣

  • @chadatkins9053
    @chadatkins9053 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bro could you send me a couple of Grubb Mudd shirts and a couple stickers if u have em😊

  • @charlyubaldo8916
    @charlyubaldo8916 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely bag mix is shit

  • @rhythemandpoetry
    @rhythemandpoetry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its not good dont do it.

  • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
    @PNW_Sportbike_Life 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    hilarious how little understanding you guys have for the strengths and weaknesses of concrete.

  • @tjaekeys
    @tjaekeys 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the most inaccurate test I’ve ever seen

  • @Jim-kz4zo
    @Jim-kz4zo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U seem gay? Nothing wrong with that .

    • @chadatkins9053
      @chadatkins9053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's some messed up disrespectful stuff to say

    • @buffalokrisgoldprospecting
      @buffalokrisgoldprospecting ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This guy must be a dry pour guy

    • @chadatkins9053
      @chadatkins9053 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buffalokrisgoldprospecting who u talking about

    • @chadatkins9053
      @chadatkins9053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your talking about me we pour everyday and it's definitely not dry

    • @chadatkins9053
      @chadatkins9053 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually a 4 to 5 slump most of the time

  • @davidfincher4571
    @davidfincher4571 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lmao yeah right good try buddy