Why THIS is the audiophile amplifier EVERYONE has been waiting for... in 2024! 🤔 (for home audio)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- GanFet based audio amplifiers have become largely popular due to its performance in home audio. Some, like myself love tube pre-amplifiers but some don't want tubes, introducing the Java Carbon integrated amplifier with an unique LDR technology!
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Gear mentioned in this video:
AGD Audion: agdproduction.com/product/aud...
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Orchard audio Starkrimson: orchardaudio.com/iyagi?nocache=1
video: • Building Your Own (Eas...
ANK Mentor Tube Pre-amp: ankaudiokits.com/product/pre-...
video: coming soon
Speakers mentioned in this video:
Acoustic Zen Crescendo mk2: acousticzen.com/crescendo
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Totem Bison Twin Towers: totemacoustic.com/product/bis...
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Joseph Crowe No. 1680: josephcrowe.com/products/spea...
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BDI Cabinet I use: bit.ly/2OJRwQQ
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0:00 What Makes JAVA Carbon Amp Special? LDR?!
7:10 Other Options
8:03 DAC inside the JAVA Carbon
9:05 Phono Pre-amp inside the Java Carbon
10:15 Bluetooth inside the Java Carbon
10:35 Java Carbon Sound Review
16:38 A little complaint
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*Thanks for stopping by! One of the sexiest amps I have touched. I'm biased, I love carbon fiber*
Edit: if you don’t find this stuff cool and price point is not for you, then move on and find a vid within your price point, I make vids on product at various price points. If all your comment is doing is complaining about price without proper context, your comments will be deleted.
JAVA Hi-Fi Products: www.javahifi.com/product-listing
Find Local Dealers: www.javahifi.com/where-to-buy
USA inquiries: www.robyattaudio.com/
Canada inquiries (English & French): lestudioduson.com/contact-1
Gear mentioned in this video:
AGD Audion: agdproduction.com/product/audion/
video: th-cam.com/video/26bLvCAklHk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YNMiKZbuSNMZUVHX
Orchard audio Starkrimson: orchardaudio.com/iyagi?nocache=1
video: th-cam.com/video/mf9w6ihQ-1U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=B8g3cVmwzRmnJUeN
ANK Mentor Tube Pre-amp: ankaudiokits.com/product/pre-amp-l5-mentor/
video: coming soon
Speakers mentioned in this video:
Acoustic Zen Crescendo mk2: acousticzen.com/crescendo
video: th-cam.com/video/B4RYvKynbFc/w-d-xo.html
Totem Bison Twin Towers: totemacoustic.com/product/bison-twin-tower/
video: th-cam.com/video/LaB_5A-8YAQ/w-d-xo.html
Joseph Crowe No. 1680: josephcrowe.com/products/speaker-system-no-1681
video: Coming soon
0:00 What Makes JAVA Carbon Amp Special? LDR?!
7:10 Other Options
8:03 DAC inside the JAVA Carbon
9:05 Phono Pre-amp inside the Java Carbon
10:15 Bluetooth inside the Java Carbon
10:35 Java Carbon Sound Review
16:38 A little complaint
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Speaker stands: amzn.to/3ssRhI3
Better speaker stands: solidsteel.it/my-product/ss-7-vintage-hi-fi-speaker-stands/
acoustic panels I use: ua-acoustics.com/
acoustic curtain: amzn.to/31d1zAM
BDI Cabinet I use: bit.ly/2OJRwQQ
amzn.to/3chBuFZ
other BDI Cabinets: bit.ly/3ctxXV1
amzn.to/30bsUCH
my fav hifi tweaks: (Isoacoustics devices) amzn.to/3j5FGvM
The knobs with the lights, looks like our washing machine!
Wow the carbon fiber case is beautiful. Note to manufacturer: the design on top should be dispensed with, it is a distraction from the beautiful surface.
6:15 Agree. For the asking price, I’d expect more and lean towards Orchard Audio for GaN implementation. I appreciate the engineering efforts here and realize compensation is appropriate, but the price is prohibitively expensive for some of us.
If you are DIY guy you can add to Orchard Audio similar volume attenuator, made by Tortuga Audio from Florida USA. Same LDR concept with microcontroler. Price is VERY affordable!
Absolutely and OA is like I said a valid choice :) but price point goes a lot closer to the integrated (look at price comparison towards the end of the vid) when you add a tube pre to match the performance level
@@Jayiyagi I have been running the OG Orchard Audio monoblocks with the Schiit Freya+ w/ NOS 6SN7 tubes and its a beautiful combo. It gets even better with a Benchmark LA4 preamp so 100 with you on the requirement of a high performance preamplifier to go with the Orchard Audio and Leo agrees too. BTW I recently got myself the Java HIFI single shot integrated amp and want to A/B the performance for myself. Keep doing the great work!!
Glad you've got some Joseph Crowe speakers. I've been watching his designs for a while now. The horns he crafts certainly look beautiful. I'm keen to know what you think.
Jay,
Of course you don’t want a linear volume control, you want a logarithmic one. ALWAYS. But that’s what he _meant_ to say. Because log pots _sound_ linear to our ears. Traditionally, LDRs are noisy, but maybe theirs is very special. Cheers!
Class D + LDR + GaN FET amplifier modules = the best combination for Class D amplifiers. This is THE FUTURE of HiFi!
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Woahhh wait a second. You've got the Joseph crowe audio's horn speakers behind you? That would be super crazy review. ❤
Ps - i wrote this before you mentioned them in the video 😊 Joseph is truly one of most talented guys in the industry. 🙌
I've been waiting for this all of my life
Best comment of the day !
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Why?
@@Michael-zg8qw Probably because it's so cheap.
I would like to see some Advance Paris and Tone Winner amps.
Your reviews are the best.
i guess i am Not everyone as i am not looking to drop that kind of bread for an amp with a dac inside of it. maybe i have less than champagne tastes at this point. for 12k i could buy a macintosh and resell it for about the same price in ten yrs. and at least have something to look at. just kidding but thats a lot of money for a black box
Carbon fiber though ….
Thanks Jay, great to see you reviewing some expensive gear...very interesting. Love to see more.
Excellent thorough review Jay! Looks like an interesting integrated amp. I hadn’t heard of Java before.
I almost had a stroke when I paid $1000 for my Emotiva XPA 2 GEN 3. 😂😂
Not the integrated amplifier I have been waiting for but for those looking for GaN this would be worth considering from what you are saying
With the constant evolution of D/GaN I just will standby and observe for a while
At some point I expect the value proposition will get something on my radar
Right now now I like the technology from Technics for digital amplification
I am bemused by the solid state attempts to “sound like tubes”
Thank you for the review.
Saw the comments regarding pricing and interest. While I agree that viewers may be looking for the 10k “all in” system or better……I really enjoy your investigation and reviews on equipment I may never investigate or hear, except at Axpona. 😊 Nice work
A great review, Jay! Also a great attempt to cover the difference in their claims i. technologies. I would be curious to A/B this with Chord Ultima Integrated amp as they are at the same price.
GaNfet Class D versus Class AB.
I do enjoy GaNfet amps from Peachtree.
I think there could be a price tier lists for GanFet amps.
The speakers in the background remind me of a Hawaiian wooden carved tiki idol.
Quite happy with my McIntosh MA252, got a tube preamp with Mcintosh Class A/B power for a lot less than this is offering. I also expect I'll have less trouble with servicing and spare parts in another 15 years!
Interesting tech and I liked the tour, but nobody is waiting for an integrated at this price range, and why would you limit yourself to an onboard DAC?
It's clearly priced to not sell much and I think they will achieve this.
The carbon fibre is 'tacky', like having gold plated taps, its an irrelevant expense, but when you are making the numbers up anyway, why not eh?
Small tech point, but a volume control needs to work logarithmically as that's how our ears work, not linearly. :)
It's not nice to see people taking class D designs, which were always about delivering good power cheaply, and turning them into overly expensive designs. I've watched this BS for over 40 years and it will never change!
Thanks for looking at it, very hard to share your enthusiasm though :)
That's a really great looking chassis.
Tortuga Audio from USA Florida, makes such LDR as DIY board to install in your project...
Looks pretty Jay, and I like, BTW, your methodical explanation taking place in that video. Keep going with the great work. On the other hand, I would like to ask you about the wooden horn speakers visible in the background. Could you please let me know what they are?
They look like Joseph Crowe horns to me. I’m guessing so I could be wrong. He’s a Canadian speaker builder.
Wow they really went all out very impressive especially using an opto isolator, tech that has been around for over 50 years.
Nuprime AMG Serie is the american asian answer ❤🎉
Interesting product. Great review.
I like your terms “attack and decay” but you may prefer bloom and decay, seems a bit more accurate in describing sound behavior. Nice work young man! You keep working hard and good things will be coming your way.
Interesting. I've got my transformer coupled tube preamp i love and my tube dac and now considering class d for the first time, but i honestly found this piece more interesting to pair with a tube dac. I still worry about time and repair. Both class D and LDR, how long will they last and who will be able to service it in that time something goes wrong, especially long after these products are no longer supported?
Yes LDRs can be easily and inexpensively acquired to fix. Relatively simple circuit to diagnose as is with tubes
My two cents, turn off the comment section Jay!
Love your channel, been watching you for a minute 💯
Java has really cool looking pieces!
LOL, bro at 13k or 16k we are not waiting for this AMP! You can buy a used McIntosh MA9000 for under 8k. Also you can buy NAD integrated for less than half the price that performs excellent and has Dirac. Or if you want a good Ganfet amp just get the HiFi rose integrated amplifier, again which is half the cost.
Who wants to buy boomer Mac gear? Not I.
I dunno why they feel the need to lie about using OEM modules when they're doing exactly that. Those are GAN1002 modules from Elegant Audio Solutions from Texas, and the same module is used in Voyager GaN class D amp from Living Sounds Audio. I don't find these OEM modules in a fancier case type of amps are fascinating. I rather see truly exclusive class D amps from the likes of Atmasphere and co.
They never lied. They said the amp module was specifically made to their specification for their company to match with the LDR pre-amplifier. You can email Elegant Audio to see if its the exact same module or changed for their specific application with LDR
It’s nice to breathe in the rare air of the stratospherically priced gear.
After all…. It’s available.
Interesting. I'm always interested in new GAN stuff. The price doesn't bother me, but the remote is terrible, and yes, while the input memory can be fixed in a firmware update, you gotta review it based on what is, not what will be (which is what you did, so thank you). I hadn't heard of the company before, but now they're on my radar, even if this specific integrated isn't for me.
I completely agree on the remote… I think Chord Electronics learned the hard way.
how would you compare to the much lest costly gato"s you reviewed?
Different speakers at different times. Reviewed the gato way back and maybe because of that but I found the carbon integrated much to my preference and personally thought the technicalities were on a different level
How does this possibly have the same inner workings as the separate preamp and amp when the designer just said that it has a “passive” preamp. I have a traditional integrated tube amp (meaning it has a passive pre)They can be great if you don’t need too much flexibility. But then, flexibility seems to be part of the hi lights that the unit is selling. It’s little wonder that the phono stage is moving magnet. Getting enough kick for moving coil without the help of a preamp -ie 72dB -could be quite difficult. I run 53 dB out of my phono preamp along with a 4.0mV output Grado master. BTW, the latest $1k Grado Master sounded so good that it replaced my multi thousand dollar moving coil on my main table! I could use the 1.0mv version, but John Grado advised me that this was pushing it.
You should check out orchard audio. They have a ganfet dual mono linear psu amplifier touting 500w 8ohm 1kw in 4ohm for 6k usd.
You didn't watch the video.
Jay did a review of my 500W stereo amplifier earlier you can find it in his feed.
It is a very good review from user point of view
Besides all that what a great design.
I heard the non-carbon one at the montreal audio show last year, and I can't get it out of my head. Smoothest amp I have heard. I wonder ho it would do with metal tho, since it's so smooth.
Cranked up some rock and metal last night. Awesome
@@Jayiyagi ❤
Did you assembled the mentor yourself?
Jay, Is that the Allnic h7000 that you have ?
Yeap
Another GanFet amp to review could be the Peachtree Gan1.
Should be GaN 400. GaN 1 only has one input. I still think GaN 1 is one of the simplest solution for a streaming setup and they sound great for their price. I am using one with Eversolo DMP A6 ME. I do love the combo. ❤
I was not waiting for this Java amp, never heard of it before. Instead, I will simply get one of the NuPrime amp for a lot cheaper, perhaps ST-10, ST-10M or Evolution Two mono!
12k?
USD $12,999.00. That's a big number for this thing.
13K minus 1$
I think many of us would buy the top end of the brand we currently love not a brand we're not familiar with. If i had 13k I'd get Yamaha separates or Marantz Amp 10 etc.
Without giving all THREE a listen and comparing objectively ? I don't have ANY idea of the outcome that YOU would decide but the mind is like a parachute: works best when open :-)
LDR was already used and build by the diy audiocommunity , two decades ago !
Yeap!
Just get galion tsa75 and don't look else where ......
Very good amp!
The Isoacoutics feet are overkill :) i use them for my psb t8 platinum (110 lbs each) floorstanding speakers. But for such amps the Isoacoutics Gaia feet are too much.
These are pretty heavy for a ganfet
Can you expand on why they are too much?
i use some large rubber erasers under my ATC desktop speakers. cost $5. does the job.
@@xstensl8823 Rubber is far too reactive for good audio isolation, though the tuning matters a lot. Try sorbothane and especially sorbothane sandwiching a high-mass disc.
Everything inside is designed to work with everything else inside. What a ground breaking concept, lol.
It’s too $ for me but cool knowing how they get their kicks.
Take the circuitry, place it in an aluminium case and let a China-based manufacturer built it. About $3000.
Wow… are you Chinese? you would promote Chinese people to steal others’ designs and manufactured in China, so you can buy cheaper??? Gee… I can see that you never achieved anything by yourself but steal other’s works for your claims… cheap is what you are for real.
It looks good, but is that a Joseph Crowe design behind you?
I guess I should have watched the whole video 😅.
Yep
@@Jayiyagi he's my idol 😂
Good friend of mine. I’ll try not to be biased haha
@@Jayiyagi That cool! I follow him on Facebook and I watch his channel. He's on another level. You can tell he really loves what he does and he's very smart. I try to learn from him.
I believe if you had made this channel about a more popular subject rather than audio gear you would have millions of subscribers. Your videography, photography, set design and lighting skills are top notch. Humor me, but consider doing comedy sketches, or some other entertainment type subject that would attract more viewers. I know audio is your passion but think about abandoning it to make a lot more money. studying what sells most on youtube, you have the skills and personality. maybe even do pranks or try to pick up girls, but your wife might not like that
Interesting review. However, the volume control is not ideally supposed to increase gain in a linear fashion but rather in a logarithmic way.
Run two channels? Below $10k and above $10k?
It's completely pointless the light has to be converted to electrons anyway and they are driving solenoids so why don't you just have the electrons driving the solenoid directly anyway and forget about the light aspect. You want to look harmonic distortion in the high frequency band above 1k it doesn't usually get worse in the low frequency band actually it gets better
Dear Diary,
I kind of miss the old days during covid getting into hifi and being content with my SMSL dac/power amp combo and ELAC speakers.
That cheap class D sound turned me off for a long time and did not really care for them until i heard GANfet based amps and that totally changed my mind.
Thanks Jay for ruining my life and wallet. ❤
way you not reviw the amplifer singl shut. i bay tihs prodact. and waht compnay of pre you no its god for tihs.
tank you
Nope, nice but ridiculous.
send it or anything really to erin at erin’s audio corner or amir at audio science review for measurements. it does matter!! subjectivity is just not enough for consumerism bc we’re taking all the risk upfront.
I agree! Manufacture should consider sending it to either for measurements.
Peachtree for 1/3 $.
GaN is pronounced GONE?
i will keep my Rega Elex 4 $1800 and blissful and pass on the bragging rights
13k for an unknown company, unproven technology and unknown if there are going to be around to support any warranty / repairs in few years. Not for me
Back to Cheap Audio man I go 😂
Too bad they chose one of the worst names to name a product, espressoally in these trendy torturous times.
😂
Carbon fiber case is tacky. It reminds me of an amp that belongs in the trunk of a riced out 1995 Honda civic with full body kit and type R emblems at some car show.
FOH - Carbon fiber ALL the things.
LOL but IMHO it DOES have an effect on reducing vibrations and the effects of the having all the sensitive electronics inside surrounded by a metal box which for SOME amps, acts like an antenna and a source of noise. C F is expensive so I don't think that it was just a pure "look" thing that Java was after . . . . Cheers
Seeing the amp, I initially thought this to be one the many cheap class D amps from China, Fosi Audio and stuff...
Wow, really?? Fosi??? 😅
Are you kidding me? 12k USD amp and this kind of ultra cheap plasticky remote without real buttons? I saw and heard Java Audio amp twice at varius audio-shows but I never saw the remote...
Ye the remote is meh
It's ugly and expensive and by the way, you'll still need a dac.
It has a dac built inside
@Jayiyagi yes, but really, who uses a built in dac?
@@rockfidelity8229People that buy an integrated to use the built in DAC.
That’s ugly.
You aren't using the best Orchard amp.
Yes I am aware
LOL
Only wondering how much did you get paid to say this😂
Zero
My first house , which was pretty nice, cost less than three of these. 😂
Same with me. Today if you wanted to buy a house in my neighborhood, at ten thousand an amp it would cost you hundred to hundred and twenty amps. Times have changed.
My house when I was 2, Dad bought in 1964 for $16K. It was a simple ranch house in New England. 👍
You boomers have all the luck.