50% AIRCRAFT MAIDEN FLIGHT - Unfortunate Ending
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
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Thanks Nick for sharing your MASSIVE 50% Aircraft Details with us. This PAU SU-26 is an outstanding aircraft and did I mention that it's HUGE!!!!! The ending of the maiden flight is unfortunate. Although it wasn't really a crash it was more like a not so gentle touch down.
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Beautiful Aircraft with an unfortunate end to the maiden flight. Nick will have it back in the air again! Thanks for watching!
The best take away on this is, it's an RC... nobody dies in a crash. Tough luck, guy, Fix the problem, I'd like to see this beautiful monster back in the air soonest!
Great point and well said Charles!
Ouch. Engine was NOT ready for a maiden
And she was definitely Tail Heavy.
Happens to all of us eventually..
I had a flame out on my twin engine beechcraft d18. Similar scenario. All repaired and flying again.
As I'm sure this one will be soon.
Good luck on the re maiden!
Yea didn't look that bad. Hopefully it get's up again soon.
Thanks guy's for sharring this clip with us Lovely aircraft. With 40 years of R/C FLYING its happens to all of us at some time. In this great hobby I lost my large tucano just like that after flying it for 12 years at the club field and maney years at shows. The engine just died and could not make it back to the landing strip.
Realy glad it was only miner damage hope to see it on TH-cam tube again. Beat regards .
Thanks MAL! Yea if your flying them they all have an expiration date! Sometimes it's 1 flight unfortunately.
Just came across this. I left the hobby some 30 years ago. I would never have added weight like that to balance the model out, lighter the plane the better. Always moved the RC gear (battery/servos/receiver) to help balance. The aircraft looked unstable as soon as it left the ground and no surprise it dropped like a stone.
Simply tail heavy.
@@thelightersideofrc Yes, needed more weight in the front. With the deadstick, still might have tore it up. Cool plane though.
Just by the start ups, balancing, and initial takeoff i would have been worried, looked like he had no business flying it yet
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After many years of RC disappointments myself, I have some advice that's appropriate here. When you build up this aircraft, you don't position the wing to the fuselage until you get close enough to load everything onto the air frame control surfaces, just tape them in place the engines, and then find that spot that the wing is to be all outside because of its airfoil and then you locate the fuselage on top the wing where it's balanced, you won't have any weight to add that forward and reverse balancing of the wing loose under the fuselage allows you to set the balance perfectly works like a charm and every time no matter the size of the aircraft all right good luck
Not sure what stage the owner is at with it but hopefully he gets it up again!
what in the hell are you talking about? and Please use puctuation and a likeness of coherent sentence structure.
Beautiful Sukhoi! Would love to see the re-maiden. Definitely looked tail-heavy, though. And needs a pilot figure!
Hopefully we will see it this coming flying season! Yea it was tail heavy.
You did well to land it as such. I think a combo of less throw and move cg forward fpr next flight until you can at least get a feel of whats going on. Also im sure it wont be easy but maybe a ramp you could put fuse on with engine running to check its not leaning out. I know they shouldnt but most of mine do to sone extent. Also reccomend air dam in cowl to force air onto cylinder and a large exit for warm air to escape.
All in all a shame for the damage but hope to see these minor issues resolved and the re maiden done.
Yea Nick did a great job. It was a tough one for sure. Not sure if any repairs or changes have happened since the incident.
Sounds like you needed to work on the motor conditioning a little bit better. But, he handled it really well !!
Yea. For sure. Surprisingly good outcome!
No it didn't it was clearly tail heavy.
Sounds like a 2 stroke engine. If so wasn’t it set too lean?
He definitely needs to address the issues before the next flight!
Before the rc plane hard to land due to dead stick, i guess the ballance of the aicraft need to be adjusted, wish the plane soon fly back in air mate
CG is oh so important! He had it set tail heavy.
I do agree
CG…..So important
Heck Yea! That and power!
Need to address the over heating issue
To much air goes away from the engine
Cylinders
Direct all air flow directly to the cylinders
Also it sounded lean over reheating very hard to get right just my opinion
Do not give up more homework it will be worth it Beautiful airplane take note to full-scale airplane and how they duct the air through the engine compartment
Great Suggestions Bert. I'll pass them onto Nick! Thanks
Engine leaned out .. still a bit tail heavy?
Yes I believe both.
Try using a Vanessa rig to check the CG. Helps a lot on bigger aircraft and the plum bob will show exactly where the CG is on the plane.
Sucks for the unscheduled landing but that’s part of the hobby.
Thanks 😊. Great suggestion!
nice field!
Thanks 😊. Lots of changes the past 2 seasons but getting better all the time!
If your going to do a airplane that big, why not just get a full size. Myself I like planes in the 6 ft ( 2 meter for you Canadians) range easy to move around, fly pretty well, not to expensive and loads of fun. I do respect everyone else's likes and Nick certainly is a good sport. I trashed a relatively expensive pattern plane about 30 years ago and gave up RC and got a real plane. It scared me, back to RC and loving it.
Hello Phil. Yea that's a valid point and a common question. I think it's 2 totally different worlds. With what we pay for some of these turbine aircraft many people ask that question. Why not full size. Many do both but it's a different experience flying a model from the ground and a full size.
@@thelightersideofrc Yea your right, totally different, but the machine is the same. I like when a full scale pilot tries to fly a model. I think its easier for the model pilot to fly full scale, but a lot more dangerous.
Totally! I went for an aerobatic flight a few years ago and it was easy to fly.
Tail heavy planes fly only once... 🙂
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Tail heavy guys don't second guess bigger the plane harder to fall
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Tail heavy!!!!
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Looked like he was over controlling elevator.
Tail heavy.
Good call! Suspect CG!
Maybe shouldn’t have modeled the engin.? C of g too far back by the looks. Seemed very pitch sensitive.
Yes tail heavy unfortunately
MOTOR???? SOUNDED LIKE AN ENGINE TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope. Was a dingledorf actually
Guy seems a little clueless did a little more then bend the landing gear….that engine was not making enough rpm it also died one time prior to take off
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Hilarious!
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Mount motor further back machine a drive shaft an bearing carrier for prop
That's right up Nick's alley! Thanks for watching!
he handled it well, land soft and horizontal.
Totally!
Jonathan. Thanks for the Video Just a question would a Turbine engine be better then add metal Weight? Yes I know we have to life in our wallet. Sorry for this but how is the Video on the Fundraising! How the new House Doing? No I did not buy that Jet plane. I am into Sailplanes and I thinking of building a Sport Sailplane. God Bless Jonathan and Family. You are #1 in In Jet building
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Hello Gregory. He has another one of these aircraft that will be built soon. I think in the next one he will be going with a 400ish engine just primarialy for the added weight but also more power. New house video should be up tomorrow. still undecided on the fundraising idea. Not sure if it would be received well by viewers.🤔
@@thelightersideofrc Jonathan you run the Show. I guess if RC group as that much love it be no problem. How about a Vote First? Jonathan I just want to see you have a hand full in Flying her with the biggest engine! Hehehehehe. You still #1 building. Take Care my friend. Greg of Ohio
4 cycle engine....
Needs a bit of TLC, Tuning and love!
was the covid vax mandatory?JK....sad ending, hope he adds some more nose weight and gets her up again....beautiful plane.
She will fly again. The belly is a bit crunched and repair is in progress.
Gopro footage will be vomit inducing! 🤪
Haha. No kidding!
Ran out of talent..............hurts.
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What a shame, although clearly tail heavy. The twitchiness of the elevator was very clear to see, and the fact that it had almost no glide says it all. Needs more weight in the nose. As they say, you'll fly a nose heavy aircraft several times, but a tail heavy aircraft only flies once. Thankfully not a total loss so I'm looking forward to seeing it repaired and back in the air again.
Hopefully up again soon!
totally tail heavy.
I believe the saying goes ..... A nose heavy plane flies poorly a Tail heavy plane flies once
it's a damn 3d airplane not a jet. people purposely build them tail heavy. that guy has zero skills. first giveaway of ignorance is giving full throttle to cold engine.
Thats incorrect for 3D aircraft.
I have flown a 50% 3D airplane that balanced at the start of the ailerons and the only thing that told me thr CG was off was it didnt want to come out of a hover.
But i fly enough to be able to handle that on a 3D airframe.
Its not always true just remember that, thats an old saying from real military jet aurcraft. Not a new saying for RC's it only rings true in some airframes.
looks a bit tail heavy!
We were chatting about it. Nick doesn't use any expo so the initial up and downs were his fingers getting used to the feel.
@@thelightersideofrc how come he doesn’t use any Expo mate?
@@thelightersideofrc After watching it a few times he really didn't have the Airspeed to do much after the motor quit and he was still climbing. Each to his own with the expo though, I just find its a lot easier to finesse models with a bit of expo even on the first flights.
That engine did sound a little lean to me on the video maybe a little richer would make it a bit better looked to have plenty power till it stopped
He did well models that big dont genrally float very well looks a relatively easy repair shoule be back out n flying in no time
Nose heavy flies poorly. Tail heavy flies once.
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Am I the only one that thinks that that plane would sound/look better with a radial? Still...badass plane and sucks on the crash!
Oh HECK YEA!!!!! That would be outstanding!
Radials wont produce the power to weight that a 3D aircraft needs.
Too heavy for too little power.
If youre smart enough (and own a machine shop) you can make that two stroke sound a lot, lot better
engine out was only one issue, obviously it was tail heavy as well, lucky ending.
Yea, correct. It will fly again!
Tail heavy and lean engine, sucks. Need more nose weight
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Damn thing had the glide slope of the Space Shuttle!
HAHA. Nice! Well put 😂
It was massively tail-heavy. Airplanes like this can tolerate a reasonable aft CG, but there's a limit. Classic "buy and fly" RC flier, doesn't know the first thing about what he is doing.
imagine starting your car in the morning and giving it full throttle to warm up.
all in all... low overall skills
Isn't that how your supposed to do it!😂
@@thelightersideofrc bro tip: if u hate sitting in a cold car in a morning waiting for engine to warm up.. Just hold it on a rev limiter for a few minutes and u will be warm in no time. 😝
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@@edwinator46 as a master tech.
That adage comes from the racing world.
It is specifically from forged pistons and cranks.
The process of forging metal of any kind inherently traps energy (atleast thats how i can explain it easier but is not 100% correct)
That process makes the metal much stronger. However when forged metal especially pistons get warm they expand a hell of alot more than cast aluminum which is what your car has in it. With cast aluminum we set clearances very tight hence the reason for 0w-30 oil and such on modern cars.
0 being the wight of the oil at operating temperature and 30wt at freezing.
But with forged pistons especially when it comes to two strokes if you start them and dont let them idle. The pistons will quite literally slap the cylinder walls when you increase the rpm. Catastrophic failure or cold seizing is a very common issue on race motorcycles and race cars with forged internals.
oh hell it is only paper money
A 39x12 seems like a lot of prop for that 280cc. My 342cc turns a 36x15 @5100 on the ground and 6050 in the air. What RPM does that 280 turn? Maybe it over heated?
Better questions for Nick. When we see the next flight will try to discuss
MORE NOSE WEIGHT
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so I agree with tail heavy, and with that pitching going on you could have caused the pick up in the tank to become airborne just long enough to starve the engine
Once again, good luck just don't connect the wing to the fuselage until you know where it's perfectly balanced on the fattest part of the airfoil
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The engine might have stopped, but the centre of gravity was well off, there was very little stability shown in the climb-out.
For sure!
That does not look like 50% to me but it fly's like a Sukhoi, when the engine quits and a brick has a better glide ratio, literally they do.
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I swear I’m not hating. Any type of flying is cool with me. But the amount of money into those bigger planes you could’ve gotten a real pilots license.
Totally agree! it's a different sort of rush and excitement though.
Tail heavy. That is lethal for a plane. move COG forward maybe 4 inches and go from there.
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Many years ago i did the 72" goldberg suhkoi. Can confirm, they dont glide for shit.
Haha. 😂😂 good confirmation
If you are selling the engine at some point I might be interested.
Nice plane BTW
Thanks for watching!
What a shame! Get the engine running and recheck that balance and or elevator throws.
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Giant round cowl needs some baffling to force the air over the cylinder heads especially the rear set of heads. You’d be surprised how fast a 2 stoke with no airflow heats up under full power.
Yea good call!
I think you need to turn the rates down and add some expo lol looks a little sensitive
Yea his plane was also tail heavy.
Doesn't sound anything like a Harley lol!
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I like to maiden a motor with out it being tuned......
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C’est pas le type qui présente des émissions sur la pêche ?
LOL. Nope.
Tail heavy. Engine not properly tuned. !!!
Yea. Unfortunate but it will fly again!
Made me feel sick for the guy watching this :(
Yea. Should fly again!
Half sized bird? Dude, almost there, Jump up to a full size and get your private pilots licence. Almost there..😉
No kidding hey!
Tail heavy, what a shame. Hopefully she flies again!
Hopefully soon!
That plane was way too nose heavy. Dummies.
Yes, tail heavy for sure!
tail heavy no doubt.
Yea.
Tail heavy and engine sounded to lean.
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I’d like to see a video of the inside of this plane and how it’s built! I’m considering building this kit! Also waiting on the video of the second flight!
When the second flight happens we will do some interior footage. I may be building Nicks second kit for him so there would be videos
Its looks WAY WAY TAIL HEAVY
Yea she was still tail heavy
not a motor died,,, an Engine quit
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Tail heavy for sure.
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Tail heavy
correct!
She a big girl, shame she become a flying brick, but hey, only landing gear, that’s less damage you would normally get with a small plane 👍🏻
Yea, hopefully up again soon and with a more consistent running engine.😎
It sounded good until
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That's probably why the guy in texas sold it
HAHA. Maybe!
@@thelightersideofrc BTW, what part of alberta are you from... i'm in Calgary...
Just south of Calgary
Cool stuff... local boy... LOL@@thelightersideofrc
what a shame that happened lovely model but even the best pilots in the hobby crash at least it will fly again
Yea....it happens. It will hopefully fly again soon!
Dick Sizer is the developer of the 280 black flame engine. He originally had the engine made for a P51 racer he designed.
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I’ve learned to always be descending when the engine power goes out. Don’t pitch up trying to make the runway. Pilot did all he could, dead stick + tail heavy 😬 yikes 😱
Yea! Decent outcome under the circumstances
Those aerobatic/3D airframes just don’t have any type of glide, he was put in a tough situation, I know the feeling!
Yea, under the circumstances he handled it like a champ!
not true at all, those big ones even, sometimes seem to practically float.
@@OnceShy_TwiceBitten Im sure, but that airplane “floated” like a rock. Lmao.
Actually no. All airplanes have glide ratio. He was most likely tail heavy
Thats total bull.
They have a fantastic glide!
Just have to put it in low rates pr youll stall it.
I mean watch it again. He had too much throw on the elevator and bled all of his airspeed when he tried to pull up or accidentally pulled up instead of pointing the nose down and just flaring at the last moment to be able to get the landing right.
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It's a shame, but it's an acrobat and the drive needs to be addressed. Aside from the misaligned centre of gravity, the engine power is lacking. A two-stroke engine is used and the exhausts make the power. There is a reserve. I wish you success.
Thanks for watching! Hopefully up again soon with a better running engine!
Looked completely unstable if you ask me, unless he controls without finesse or doesnt understand the trim. No such thing as a rock, just get that nose down. But it will fly again so all good.
Hopefully soon!
Hi Jonathan,
I really feel for Nick. I was thinking the worst, once it went out of sight during the landing. Glad it wasn't as serious as it seemed. Hope to see it again once it's repaired. You and Katie stay safe.
Thanks Don. Yea he did a great job under the circumstances! Hopefully back flying again soon!
I like that guys attitude I seen men throw a fit over a $100 foamy.
Yea totally!!!! That's a great point that not many will notice. At the end of the day it's just a Toy Plane. Thanks for watching!
When the engine die is very difficult i hope it will fly again nice plane
Hopefully up again soon!
Nick 💪🏻, great sport , hopefully you will be flying your PAU SU-26 soon and we get to see it on this channel
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Surprised how steep the glide slope was on that thing. Very unfortunate but looks like she’ll live to fly again! 👍🏻😎
Yea, Hopefully soon!
My 90" mxs R had the Same end two days ago. Ill fix It of course. Its only the landing gear.
Oh NO! Nick has to do a but of Fiberglass repair on the bottom but will fly again.
Damn, glad it wasn't a total loss. Hope you get a good CG after repairs. Good luck with it!
Not sure what stage the owner is at with it.
no engine run up, or flight control test...could have saved your self a bunch of heartache
All of that happened
What a shame 😭 Ps: which camera have you used for this video?
Yea....it will fly again. Hopefully soon. I'm currently using a Canon G7X Mark 3 for most of my recordings.
For full sized birds, a pre fright is always done. A pre flight might have been necessary. The bird was acting funny on climb out.. Sounded like it was not making full power...
Needed some engine tuning and more nose weight
@@thelightersideofrc I have a few Rc birds, lol, don't we all? And for fun I purchased a Mini-aero scout fur fun. I did the same "dolphining" as your bird, and I thought, thats not going to end well, mine crashed a couple of times, but its foam, lil glue and im back in bisness, thats a high dollar bird. Nose weight? Ill get some putty and try it for my little scout. Thanks!🙂
Ouch!!!!! So glad that wasn't so much worse!
Yea it worked out just fine for him I think. Hopefully up again soon.
No it's scratched and you know it will never be the same.
Haha. Will fly even better now!
Sorry to see this, hope Nick fixes it and has it back up in the air soon.
Thanks Dino! Shouldn't take much!
Perfect example of learn to walk before you run !
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Bugger, it did sound right when he started it. Beautiful aero.
Yea i'm not familiar at all with gassers and tuning but that's a common reply from many.
I dont know anything about these plane engines. but it just didn't sound right to me, right from the first startup. It sounded flat, not crisp.
Yea! Good ear!
@@thelightersideofrc Im a Two stroke motorcycle guy. but like RC planes. although I don't have one.
Then you could for sure hear it! Careful with the planes. If you get one, so Dang addictive!🤣
whats the status on the A 10 build?
Resuming very soon.
Great mitigation!!
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Good job saving the airframe.
Nick did very well! Hopefully up again soon!
Very happy it wasn't a total loss.
Yea totally! We were all very happy when we walked up to it in the field!
Glide as good as a rock!
😂 pretty much!
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