I thought this was a stupid video at first, but then, through your determination of trying different commanders and tactics, you actually started discovering some things! Color me impressed!
It is actually possible to lose this mission with kanbei, you have to use your apc to lure an enemy infantry to the enemy hq, if you keep it in attack range of an enemy infantry it will follow, there it can repair up, if necessary you can kill the infantry going to your hq, one infantry will take enough damage from attacking, one can be put into the apc and one can be destroyed by healing the enemy infantry on the hq.
Huh, my plan would've been to try and lure Flak's forces back to his own HQ with an APC so they'd get some healing which would hopefully let them attack into your units
@@lunarnights straight up denying one of your infantries by offing it with an APC is quite brilliant tho, not sure if I would've remembered that units don't just pop back out
I've tested it, and luring him back to his own HQ can indeed work and let you lose on this mission. You can also carefully injure one of his infantry down to 1-2 HP, at which point it often goes into repair mode and voluntarily runs back to sit and heal endlessly as long as you don't let it ever reach full.
Also challenge AW 2 idea: "Low Tech Master". Limit on what unit can be produce nothing more advance than basic light tank. No making : fighter, battleships, no subs, no rockets, missles medium tanks, neo tanks. For bonus, this effect the use of pre-deployed
It is indeed possible to lose as Kanbei! One of the best ways to do so is to trick Flak into fighting on his own HQ so that he gets great defense and easy repairs. It also helps to suicide one of your own infantry by putting it in the APC and letting the APC die. I just made a video showing how to do this a couple of ways.
Should be doable. One infantry into the APC, he will attack the first infantry sitting on a road - make sure only one of his infantires can attack yours - then join the full HP infantry with the 8hp infantry, effectively deleting another 8 HP, now flak has a full HP and a 6-7 HP infantry against your single full hp infantry.
A pretty interesting half-suicide attempt, but pretty interesting nonetheless. It does amuse me that the AI would rather be a sitting duck than attempt anything if it doesn't see a win situation, and also, won't retreat to reinforce itself.
An interesting challenge! You inspired me to test a few ideas I had while watching this, and turns out it actually IS possible to lose this mission by rout as Sturm. And even as Kanbei! If you're interested, here's the video I made showing some ways to do that: th-cam.com/video/mJtMmt2b2D4/w-d-xo.html
Honestly, I don't remember the specifics since it's been a while. I recall initially planning to join as a strategy and then opting not to for some reason.
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20% boosted power and defense making him the strongest without deployment *sad kanbei noises*
Not relevant here but 1 moment cost through all tiles (outside of snow) is also busted
Plus in deployment sturm doesn’t need to pay extra, just throwing that out there
@@korhol2065Sturm doesn’t pay extra
You could have lost the first attempt by placing the last infantry into the 1hp apc
I thought this was a stupid video at first, but then, through your determination of trying different commanders and tactics, you actually started discovering some things! Color me impressed!
Thank you! I find sometimes it's the dumbest ideas that end up being the most interesting, lol
I never realised the river flows the wrong way
Will never unsee that now, lol
You can terchnically join your 10hp infantry with a damaged infantry to get rid of total infantry HP.
It is actually possible to lose this mission with kanbei, you have to use your apc to lure an enemy infantry to the enemy hq, if you keep it in attack range of an enemy infantry it will follow, there it can repair up, if necessary you can kill the infantry going to your hq, one infantry will take enough damage from attacking, one can be put into the apc and one can be destroyed by healing the enemy infantry on the hq.
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Huh, my plan would've been to try and lure Flak's forces back to his own HQ with an APC so they'd get some healing which would hopefully let them attack into your units
A good idea too.
@@lunarnights straight up denying one of your infantries by offing it with an APC is quite brilliant tho, not sure if I would've remembered that units don't just pop back out
I've tested it, and luring him back to his own HQ can indeed work and let you lose on this mission. You can also carefully injure one of his infantry down to 1-2 HP, at which point it often goes into repair mode and voluntarily runs back to sit and heal endlessly as long as you don't let it ever reach full.
Also challenge AW 2 idea: "Low Tech Master". Limit on what unit can be produce nothing more advance than basic light tank. No making : fighter, battleships, no subs, no rockets, missles medium tanks, neo tanks. For bonus, this effect the use of pre-deployed
I did not think about loading the APC, but another helpful trick is to join infantry. Not game changing, but make 1 or 2 7HP infantries disapear.
Amusingly, my initial plan was to focus on joining units, but they kept getting sniped! xD
I guess you might have think about it at least after seeing the AI doing it, but you didn't mention it. Also, I wanted to comment. Good video.
* fake ending starts *
Me: "well, he can put one of the infantry in the APC and try aga..."
* video resumes *
Me: * shocked pikachu face *
Nice job, something i wish you had tested was moving unit on to flak's HQ. Might help delay his units heading for you hq.
I didn't think I could get there at the time, but it's an idea. Maybe he would have even healed his units up while there.
@@lunarnights I would not put it past AI to give up a easy win to save it HQ.
Now the question, is posible lose with Kanbei? (+30/+30) the strongest pasive defense in game?
It is indeed possible to lose as Kanbei! One of the best ways to do so is to trick Flak into fighting on his own HQ so that he gets great defense and easy repairs. It also helps to suicide one of your own infantry by putting it in the APC and letting the APC die. I just made a video showing how to do this a couple of ways.
Should be doable. One infantry into the APC, he will attack the first infantry sitting on a road - make sure only one of his infantires can attack yours - then join the full HP infantry with the 8hp infantry, effectively deleting another 8 HP, now flak has a full HP and a 6-7 HP infantry against your single full hp infantry.
Yes the ai can join cap but it's rare and will only do it on an hq. For some reason, the ai really likes joining units in aw2.
It was such a shock to see, lol
For this particular mission, Kanbei would actually be even more difficult.
I mean, of course Flak wouldn't want to beat his boss' troops in a battle. Make it close, but lose at the pivotal moment.
Don't want to get fired after all!
A pretty interesting half-suicide attempt, but pretty interesting nonetheless. It does amuse me that the AI would rather be a sitting duck than attempt anything if it doesn't see a win situation, and also, won't retreat to reinforce itself.
The wildest part is there were times I think it could have won if it would have just attacked anyways.
An interesting challenge! You inspired me to test a few ideas I had while watching this, and turns out it actually IS possible to lose this mission by rout as Sturm. And even as Kanbei! If you're interested, here's the video I made showing some ways to do that: th-cam.com/video/mJtMmt2b2D4/w-d-xo.html
We go from beating dark souls trilogy without getting hit to trying to lose the first mission of the aw2 campaign as the most broken cos
You could have left one in the apc or kept joining the full hp one with the damaged one
Hey bro an idea for future videos, beat Aw2 campaign but with giving the enemy 3 or 5 turns ahead without you doing anything ????
I like this idea.
Did you consider it 'cheating' to join your units together even when 1 of them is at full HP?
Or did you forget about that option?
Honestly, I don't remember the specifics since it's been a while. I recall initially planning to join as a strategy and then opting not to for some reason.
Good job. This was funny
Thanks!
If you really wanted to make easy, you'd put your last infantry inside the APC
I was wondering when you were gonna utilize that APC.
Better late than never!
Why didnt load an indintry unit in the apc?
What happens if you park the APC on your HQ ?
With the boosted defense and daily heal it's impossible for Flak to destroy.
can you delete units in the tutorial
Nope.
neat video
Thanks!
i wander how u got so little subs because u got some very good videos
Hopefully the number will grow!
Why didnt you load the apc with an infantry?
It didn't occur to me initially, but that's what I ended up doing toward the end.
@@lunarnights yeah then i watched it till the end sorry!
It's not called Advanced Wars.
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Thanks! (now if only I had a devil emote to add here)
lol! I love this