Before I found you and AnimalDocRae I was spending $300 a month to feed my 2 cats and 1 pug!!!! Now I spend way less, and according to you they are eating better. Science Diet for my pug (along with kibble toppers like bone broth because he is so very picky), Fancy Feast and Purina Uinary Care kibble for my cats. It feels so good to be more informed as a pet parent, and not be taken advantage of by these "natural" "holistic" diets that were costing a fortune!! And wouldn't you know it, my pug was suffering from reflux issues and since switching him to Science Diet he has been doing way better!!
Fromm's bags are so beautiful. Sometimes I wonder if the science brands like Hill's use pretty bags, would more people would be enticed to purchase them?
Isn't that the kind of marketing that Glen and Dr. Rea don't like? In fact, Dr. Rea has a couple of videos, humorous, where she redesigns pet food bags to reflect their true ingredients. One example: she changes a picture wolves running through the forest to some dogs eating out of a dumpster. LOL
@@edschulhof6303 No, they don’t like marketing that insinuate untrue things. My point was that science brands have the luxury to be more artistic while still using honest marketing. I’ve seen Dr Rae’s videos; I don’t believe there would be much to change in a science brand’s bag.
@@George.J My comment was more for Glen than for you. I'm probably the only one who likes him, who is not a fan of Hill's. LOL Although I have said before, if Hill's Sensitive Stomach and Skin wet cat food (which is grain free) came in larger cans, I might add it to my rotation. I hope your cat is still doing well.
I'm finding your videos down to earth and refreshing....not like most out there where I find myself shaking my head. I've been contacting pet food companies to get the g/kcal info and some have been very forthcoming..just one question...what do you consider a high value for calcium and phosphorus in g/100kcal?
Thank you for your videos! I watch, along with other sources, to keep an open mind. I am confused by this video, where you go on about the virtues of the Fromm family operation. (I agree-refreshing to not sell out). I thought in a prior video, you criticized the Fromm ingredients ("Why are we putting cheese in our dog foods?") and these Fromm bags are labeled for all breeds and ages. You have said that's feeding puppy food. We rotate Fromm 4 Star chicken a la veg, duck, beef kibble varieties. We also feed cooked meat, salmon, farm eggs, homemade bone broth-no salt and Weruva wet foods. Our dog is 9 and thriving, but your prior comments have me seeking a more "Senior" formula.
The cheese comment must be from someone else. Yes, I like the company but you are correct about all diets being All Life Stage. That means excessive nutrient levels.youre feeding an awful lot of different things. I would try consolidating a bit. Publishing a review on Weruva cans tomorrow!
Danielle, I did a video on large breed puppy foods but not regular puppy. I would trust any of the main puppy food brands out there. The high levels of nutrients are high and easier to achieve than the restricted nutrients in adult foods, which are more critical.
Hi - Just watched you video and I see that Fromm now has puppy (kibble) food on their website. Any thoughts about these formulations? We have a new Lagotto Romagnolo puppy now 12 weeks old and 12 lbs. He is expected to be about 30-35 lbs full grown. I am thinking about kibble and considering Fromm. Any thoughts? Thanks.
The last 2 adopted dogs i had coincidentally were young and had both of them on fromm puppy formula (bright pink bag) and the other dog, fromm puppy large breed (bright blue bag) . Its specifically puppy. Both dogs grew big and strong, great coats etc for the first year or so of their life. Ive personally seen good results off this brand. Im speaking only kibble, they did also eat some various canned varieties fromm and other ones. Once on a adult diet theyre tummies are stronger and then do a rotational different brands, different types, can, kibble, raw frozen, home stuff, dehydrated, air dried etc...this rotational method i have had now 8 dogs eating this way and 4 still have, 4 have past but lived long enriched lives the longest at 18 yo. The oldest i have now is a large breed rottweiler/pit bull whose almost 16 yo in July thriving. Coats exceptional, poops healthy.
IAMS contains by-products. I would not put that in the same category. I also look at things like recalls. Of these 4, our vet nutritionist says a firm no to 3 of these 4. She recommends home cooked if you are able, or adding canned to a good quality kibble. (For a 20 minutes video, there’s not a lot of substance to the review.)
I’m new to your channel and I understand your nutritional approach. Would you choose Fromm’s All Life Stages or Taste of the Wild which has maintenance for adult dogs? Or Fromm’s Gold for adults? I am currently getting ready to switch my 2 year old large breed to one of these brands from being on All Life Stages Health Extension. Thank you Glenn.
Well, as I say in the video, the Classic line has the healthiest vs Gold and will save you money. I have videos on Life Extension and Taste of the Wild and I believe the Fromm Classic is better.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I understand but all life stages is not good according to your video. Better to go with a maintenance brand that has best nutrients possible? And of course budget is playing a factor here.
I am feeding my 10-month old Boston Terrier Blue Buffalo Life Protection puppy food. Is there a similarly priced or lower priced kibble you’d recommend instead? My senior chihuahua is currently getting Nature’s Recipe because it had a lower protein count than the senior foods I saw at the store, and she is refusing the Purina Pro Plan Kidney function food. It may shorten her life, but I had to choose between death by kidney failure or death by starvation, and I refused to starve my pet another day. Is there a kibble that isn’t kidney function food, that might be a better option? The Natures Recipe has a crude analysis protein level of 24%.
Dale, any of the name brand puppy foods are fine. I’m more concerned about your pup in kidney failure. If she won’t eat the NF there are a few varieties of Hills kidney diets and Royal Canin kidney diets. They all come with a money back guarantee. I really want her on one of those. If not, I am willing to bet the Science Diet Senior foods would be lower in protein and phosphorus and sodium to reduce the workload on her compromised kidneys.
Glenn. Love your videos. But do you know Fromm is one food highest on the list for DCM. Even their gold has had cases and that’s grain inclusive. Last I heard their “head chef” was a chemical engineer. Not a food I would feed. Diet associated dialated cardiomyopathy in dogs is a science based group on the forefront of the research. If you like canine nutrition and dog food discussion as a group, you’ll love the DCM group. Tons of stories of dogs with DCM diet related verified by cardiologists fed Fromm
Stephanie, I’ve been asked to do a video on DCM but I feel I’m just not qualified. I do believe the FDA over reacted but though no one can find a causal link, there seems to be some link. Just too many questions to answer. I would not feed Fromm simply because it’s All Life Stage.
The Tufts “study” on DCM is interesting reading if you look at the entire paper, not the so called conclusions. Much of the data was self-reported, not based on a controlled study, and only about 70 dogs. Some of the dogs had heart conditions other than DCM. Some dogs were fed multiple foods. My vet doesn’t put a lot of trust in that sensationalist paper.
Dr Judy Morgan did a talk on this. That whole DCM thing isn’t all that legit. Ex- Orojen was a company supposedly linked to that, then when they were going to tank MARS bought them out and kept a grain free line and is pushing it. 🤔
When the first information came out about diet associated dilated cardiomyopathy, when we didn't have any information, I recommended to my friend to transition off Fromm just to be safe. She hadn't mentioned any concerns at the time but he transformed after the transition. She had thought that he had slowed down because he was no longer a puppy and he was much more active on ProPlan (and his body condition improved too.)
Just like every top dog kibble brand, Fromm also changed. I personally wouldn't feed it anymore. Ever since they started selling to big box stores it changed. My breeder ran numerous blood work test after feeding fromm and it wasn't great. Why are you reviewing against sub par brands? If you ever find research that doesn't advance or change over the years, I'd start questioning things
can you please review my 2 dogs kibble im feeding? im from europe. i tryed it alone, but i messed something up 😬 in calculation of nutrients. i really wanna know do i feed my dogs healthy diet. tnx in advance. btw i love your channel. i always waited for channel like this, glad i found it. 🤗
@@ZaryaTheLaika honestly, ingrediants looks almost same, if not same in EU rc. i feed czech dog food called brit premium by nature (grain inclusive). they been to sistematic exam reacently they are healthy. i have lhasa apso spayed female 8.5 years old and rabbit dacshund male, intact few days shy of his 5th birthday. i can provide links of that food np, if Glenn has time to do review. :)
I was told my cats should be on urinary cat food. Can you please compare Proplan urinary, science diet and one more that is more economical. I want the best I can afford but with 2 cats and a dog cost can add up. Is science diet the best for price Thanks
I use to give my silk terrier Fromm up to the time he was 5.. know he 8YO I cook all his meals.. I just don’t like the stuff behind dog food.. the companies never tell the truth about dogs food just like us human food all been lied too
Well, for the most part, I have to agree with you. Many raw feeders like my videos because I expose alot of the corruption. but there are some good foods and home cooking is simply difficult to provide all the right nutrients.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy i remember back in the 80s and 90s my grandparents use to get us to feed they dogs table scraps.. them dogs lived for forever and they was outside on a chain..they never ever owned a bag of dog food..
Turkey chicken mix vegetable and scrambled eggs is a good meal for your dog.. I even grind up eggshell to dust and add into meal one of best Meal you can give your dog.. I make enough to last a week.. I only feed him one time a day
I called Health Extension and they could not give me actual nutrient levels. But they did tell me all their Adult diets are All Life Stage which means the nutrient levels are high enough for growing puppies so they would be excessive for an adult dog. It is amazing to see the obvious care, concern and cost that goes into these companies these days and then they ignore optimal nutrients after all that! Sorry but I can’t recommend an All Life Stage food but would have been interested in seeing the actual numbers.
You joke about feathers in pet food. The FDA considers meal used in pet food to be a rendered product. The North American Renderers Association guide, "Essential Rendering" actually includes feathers. It says, "Hydrolyzed poultry feather meal (FeM) is pressure-cooked, clean undecomposed feathers from slaughtered poultry, free of additives and/or accelerators." " Modern feather meals greatly exceed the minimum level of AAFCO required digestibility." Who wants seconds?!
@@ZaryaTheLaika The kibble and grain folks don't. And yet, there it is! LOL I'm only on page 22 of "Essential Rendering." There are 300 more pages of good stuff to find.
@@ZaryaTheLaika You would not be popular with the Vegans! LOL I enjoy posting pictures of my cats eating raw ground beef on vegan group pages. They don't understand taurine and arginine.
Here’s the description of Gold Adult from their website. Fromm Family Adult Gold Food for Dogs is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for growth and maintenance, including growth of large size dogs (70 lb. or more as an adult).
Patrick, did a video on Sundays. Not impressed. Watched a few videos on the owner of Carna4. Nice lady, very commuted, but knows nothing about nutrition. But in reality both those foods and Fromm included, are All life Stage foods, so they are in fact puppy foods. There is no nutritional reason to feed to your adult dog or worse, your older dog.
Remember: this guy has NO veterinarian experience and never cites any substantial research. His message is always the same, with no nuance, or evidence-based data.
Before I found you and AnimalDocRae I was spending $300 a month to feed my 2 cats and 1 pug!!!! Now I spend way less, and according to you they are eating better. Science Diet for my pug (along with kibble toppers like bone broth because he is so very picky), Fancy Feast and Purina Uinary Care kibble for my cats. It feels so good to be more informed as a pet parent, and not be taken advantage of by these "natural" "holistic" diets that were costing a fortune!! And wouldn't you know it, my pug was suffering from reflux issues and since switching him to Science Diet he has been doing way better!!
Your so brainwashed like the rest of the pro purina and science diet people
Fromm's bags are so beautiful. Sometimes I wonder if the science brands like Hill's use pretty bags, would more people would be enticed to purchase them?
Isn't that the kind of marketing that Glen and Dr. Rea don't like? In fact, Dr. Rea has a couple of videos, humorous, where she redesigns pet food bags to reflect their true ingredients. One example: she changes a picture wolves running through the forest to some dogs eating out of a dumpster. LOL
@@edschulhof6303 No, they don’t like marketing that insinuate untrue things. My point was that science brands have the luxury to be more artistic while still using honest marketing. I’ve seen Dr Rae’s videos; I don’t believe there would be much to change in a science brand’s bag.
@@George.J My comment was more for Glen than for you. I'm probably the only one who likes him, who is not a fan of Hill's. LOL Although I have said before, if Hill's Sensitive Stomach and Skin wet cat food (which is grain free) came in larger cans, I might add it to my rotation. I hope your cat is still doing well.
Fromm Classic and Fromm Gold both have a Puppy formula.
I'm finding your videos down to earth and refreshing....not like most out there where I find myself shaking my head. I've been contacting pet food companies to get the g/kcal info and some have been very forthcoming..just one question...what do you consider a high value for calcium and phosphorus in g/100kcal?
I really need to take some time and take the percentages and convert to a g/ 100 kcals, or at least get close. Thanks for the kind words.
Thank you for your videos! I watch, along with other sources, to keep an open mind. I am confused by this video, where you go on about the virtues of the Fromm family operation. (I agree-refreshing to not sell out). I thought in a prior video, you criticized the Fromm ingredients ("Why are we putting cheese in our dog foods?") and these Fromm bags are labeled for all breeds and ages. You have said that's feeding puppy food. We rotate Fromm 4 Star chicken a la veg, duck, beef kibble varieties. We also feed cooked meat, salmon, farm eggs, homemade bone broth-no salt and Weruva wet foods. Our dog is 9 and thriving, but your prior comments have me seeking a more "Senior" formula.
The cheese comment must be from someone else. Yes, I like the company but you are correct about all diets being All Life Stage. That means excessive nutrient levels.youre feeding an awful lot of different things. I would try consolidating a bit. Publishing a review on Weruva cans tomorrow!
Hi Glenn! Would you consider reviewing puppy food (purina, hills, royal canin)?
Danielle, I did a video on large breed puppy foods but not regular puppy. I would trust any of the main puppy food brands out there. The high levels of nutrients are high and easier to achieve than the restricted nutrients in adult foods, which are more critical.
Hi - Just watched you video and I see that Fromm now has puppy (kibble) food on their website. Any thoughts about these formulations? We have a new Lagotto Romagnolo puppy now 12 weeks old and 12 lbs. He is expected to be about 30-35 lbs full grown. I am thinking about kibble and considering Fromm. Any thoughts? Thanks.
What you think about Farmina company, N&D line, it's seems fair
Please, What would be a good kibble type food for senior 12 yrs pitti with cancer. Thank you
The last 2 adopted dogs i had coincidentally were young and had both of them on fromm puppy formula (bright pink bag) and the other dog, fromm puppy large breed (bright blue bag) . Its specifically puppy. Both dogs grew big and strong, great coats etc for the first year or so of their life. Ive personally seen good results off this brand. Im speaking only kibble, they did also eat some various canned varieties fromm and other ones. Once on a adult diet theyre tummies are stronger and then do a rotational different brands, different types, can, kibble, raw frozen, home stuff, dehydrated, air dried etc...this rotational method i have had now 8 dogs eating this way and 4 still have, 4 have past but lived long enriched lives the longest at 18 yo. The oldest i have now is a large breed rottweiler/pit bull whose almost 16 yo in July thriving. Coats exceptional, poops healthy.
IAMS contains by-products. I would not put that in the same category. I also look at things like recalls. Of these 4, our vet nutritionist says a firm no to 3 of these 4. She recommends home cooked if you are able, or adding canned to a good quality kibble. (For a 20 minutes video, there’s not a lot of substance to the review.)
I’m new to your channel and I understand your nutritional approach. Would you choose Fromm’s All Life Stages or Taste of the Wild which has maintenance for adult dogs? Or Fromm’s Gold for adults? I am currently getting ready to switch my 2 year old large breed to one of these brands from being on All Life Stages Health Extension. Thank you Glenn.
Well, as I say in the video, the Classic line has the healthiest vs Gold and will save you money. I have videos on Life Extension and Taste of the Wild and I believe the Fromm Classic is better.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I understand but all life stages is not good according to your video. Better to go with a maintenance brand that has best nutrients possible? And of course budget is playing a factor here.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuyI’m figuring this out. Thank you Glenn.
@@Vendeevictores right! Iams is a great budget option.
I feed my cat Fromm treats, along with Greenies, Blue, and Emerald Pet
Too bad phone cameras weren't around for that river run...
I have some pictures from s 110 instamatic camera! lol!
Thoughts on Fromm game bird dog food?
I am feeding my 10-month old Boston Terrier Blue Buffalo Life Protection puppy food. Is there a similarly priced or lower priced kibble you’d recommend instead?
My senior chihuahua is currently getting Nature’s Recipe because it had a lower protein count than the senior foods I saw at the store, and she is refusing the Purina Pro Plan Kidney function food. It may shorten her life, but I had to choose between death by kidney failure or death by starvation, and I refused to starve my pet another day. Is there a kibble that isn’t kidney function food, that might be a better option? The Natures Recipe has a crude analysis protein level of 24%.
Glenn and Animal Doc Rea both feed their dogs Hill's. I'm sure when he answers you, he will have specific recommendations.
Dale, any of the name brand puppy foods are fine. I’m more concerned about your pup in kidney failure. If she won’t eat the NF there are a few varieties of Hills kidney diets and Royal Canin kidney diets. They all come with a money back guarantee. I really want her on one of those. If not, I am willing to bet the Science Diet Senior foods would be lower in protein and phosphorus and sodium to reduce the workload on her compromised kidneys.
Can you do a review on Solid Gold dry and canned cat food
Glenn. Love your videos. But do you know Fromm is one food highest on the list for DCM. Even their gold has had cases and that’s grain inclusive. Last I heard their “head chef” was a chemical engineer. Not a food I would feed. Diet associated dialated cardiomyopathy in dogs is a science based group on the forefront of the research. If you like canine nutrition and dog food discussion as a group, you’ll love the DCM group. Tons of stories of dogs with DCM diet related verified by cardiologists fed Fromm
Stephanie, I’ve been asked to do a video on DCM but I feel I’m just not qualified. I do believe the FDA over reacted but though no one can find a causal link, there seems to be some link. Just too many questions to answer. I would not feed Fromm simply because it’s All Life Stage.
The Tufts “study” on DCM is interesting reading if you look at the entire paper, not the so called conclusions. Much of the data was self-reported, not based on a controlled study, and only about 70 dogs. Some of the dogs had heart conditions other than DCM. Some dogs were fed multiple foods. My vet doesn’t put a lot of trust in that sensationalist paper.
Dr Judy Morgan did a talk on this. That whole DCM thing isn’t all that legit. Ex- Orojen was a company supposedly linked to that, then when they were going to tank MARS bought them out and kept a grain free line and is pushing it. 🤔
When the first information came out about diet associated dilated cardiomyopathy, when we didn't have any information, I recommended to my friend to transition off Fromm just to be safe. She hadn't mentioned any concerns at the time but he transformed after the transition. She had thought that he had slowed down because he was no longer a puppy and he was much more active on ProPlan (and his body condition improved too.)
Just like every top dog kibble brand, Fromm also changed. I personally wouldn't feed it anymore. Ever since they started selling to big box stores it changed. My breeder ran numerous blood work test after feeding fromm and it wasn't great. Why are you reviewing against sub par brands?
If you ever find research that doesn't advance or change over the years, I'd start questioning things
What big box stores sell Fromm? Petsmart and Petco and Chewy do not sell it.
@@giraffezebra2698 Pets Supplies Plus sells it
can you please review my 2 dogs kibble im feeding? im from europe. i tryed it alone, but i messed something up 😬 in calculation of nutrients. i really wanna know do i feed my dogs healthy diet. tnx in advance. btw i love your channel. i always waited for channel like this, glad i found it. 🤗
@@ZaryaTheLaika honestly, ingrediants looks almost same, if not same in EU rc. i feed czech dog food called brit premium by nature (grain inclusive). they been to sistematic exam reacently they are healthy. i have lhasa apso spayed female 8.5 years old and rabbit dacshund male, intact few days shy of his 5th birthday. i can provide links of that food np, if Glenn has time to do review. :)
I acknowledge Iams is better than i think. But family owned means a shit ton
LOL! ypu mean thats a good thing?
I was told my cats should be on urinary cat food. Can you please compare Proplan urinary, science diet and one more that is more economical. I want the best I can afford but with 2 cats and a dog cost can add up. Is science diet the best for price
Thanks
Warren, are you needing a urinary diet because your cat was diagnosed with urinary crystals or just as a preventative?
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy preventive. One male is now 8. Female 6. She had it once years ago. It all good now.
Preventive
I use to give my silk terrier Fromm up to the time he was 5.. know he 8YO I cook all his meals.. I just don’t like the stuff behind dog food.. the companies never tell the truth about dogs food just like us human food all been lied too
Well, for the most part, I have to agree with you. Many raw feeders like my videos because I expose alot of the corruption. but there are some good foods and home cooking is simply difficult to provide all the right nutrients.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy i remember back in the 80s and 90s my grandparents use to get us to feed they dogs table scraps.. them dogs lived for forever and they was outside on a chain..they never ever owned a bag of dog food..
Turkey chicken mix vegetable and scrambled eggs is a good meal for your dog.. I even grind up eggshell to dust and add into meal one of best Meal you can give your dog.. I make enough to last a week.. I only feed him one time a day
Can you please review Health Extension dog food?
I called Health Extension and they could not give me actual nutrient levels. But they did tell me all their Adult diets are All Life Stage which means the nutrient levels are high enough for growing puppies so they would be excessive for an adult dog. It is amazing to see the obvious care, concern and cost that goes into these companies these days and then they ignore optimal nutrients after all that! Sorry but I can’t recommend an All Life Stage food but would have been interested in seeing the actual numbers.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Thanks for responding.
My pup eats fromm gold (puppy) they don’t have a food for all life stages 😂
All their adult diets are For All Life Stages, which is disappointing.
One size does not fit all.
You joke about feathers in pet food. The FDA considers meal used in pet food to be a rendered product. The North American Renderers Association guide, "Essential Rendering" actually includes feathers. It says, "Hydrolyzed poultry feather meal (FeM) is pressure-cooked, clean undecomposed feathers from slaughtered poultry, free of additives and/or accelerators." " Modern feather meals greatly exceed the minimum level of AAFCO required digestibility." Who wants seconds?!
@@ZaryaTheLaika The kibble and grain folks don't. And yet, there it is! LOL I'm only on page 22 of "Essential Rendering." There are 300 more pages of good stuff to find.
@@edschulhof6303 I used RC Anallergenic which is made of hydrolyzed feather protein. I loved it! At the end of the day an amino acid is an amino acid…
@@ZaryaTheLaika You would not be popular with the Vegans! LOL I enjoy posting pictures of my cats eating raw ground beef on vegan group pages. They don't understand taurine and arginine.
@@ZaryaTheLaika I don't care what people eat. But when someone says cats or dogs can be vegan, that is wrong.
@@edschulhof6303 I knew you were meaner than me!
He's a shill for big pet food companies. Very sad and dangerous
I just found this page ...can you explain?
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Teri, thumbs down to Fromm or me??? lol! Or both?
I just started feeding my dog Fromm Gold because I think the bag did NOT say “all life stages”. Pretty sure the adult said adult.
Here’s the description of Gold Adult from their website.
Fromm Family Adult Gold Food for Dogs is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for growth and maintenance, including growth of large size dogs (70 lb. or more as an adult).
Thanks for clarifying. Got it!
We switched to CARNA4…and are also buying SUNDAY’s….look at the ingredients and COOING PROCESS…FROMM COOKS.
Patrick, did a video on Sundays. Not impressed. Watched a few videos on the owner of Carna4. Nice lady, very commuted, but knows nothing about nutrition. But in reality both those foods and Fromm included, are All life Stage foods, so they are in fact puppy foods. There is no nutritional reason to feed to your adult dog or worse, your older dog.
Remember: this guy has NO veterinarian experience and never cites any substantial research. His message is always the same, with no nuance, or evidence-based data.