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I haul using straps as well. One thing to be cautious about is using open hooks on your straps. Any shift in your load, or slack in the strap can cause your strap to completely disconnect. Then your load shifts more and the others get loose and can disconnect. I have seen several cases of this. I always use straps with clip on type hooks that will not fall off. A strap may loosen but it will not completely fail.
WLL ( working load limit )of a3/8” G-70 chain is 6600 lbs. . Two inch racket webbing 3333 lbs. WLL. Good idea placing stands under rear of trailer when loading .
@RockhillfarmYT I was rather surprised that you thought chains were weaker than straps but I think most people are just letting it slide to be polite. Pound for pound, or possibly dollar for dollar you are probably correct. But outside that fine line, the most commonly used binder chains are much stronger than your most common cargo strap, especially in size as metal is just stronger than threads. But I'm guessing you knew that,and were referring to the dollar for dollar, or pound for pound side of the argument. It just wasn't clearly stated as such so there's confusion.
@RambunctiousHamster this is an older video so I don’t remember exactly what I said, but I really doubt that I said straps were stronger than chains. I use chains on certain equipment and straps on certain equipment. I have a video on using chains and binders. Straps can be strong enough for a small tractor.
I am considering getting a trailer for my Deere. Thank you for all the tips & tricks about size, loading & tying down the tractor. Much appreciated Brock. Enjoy your day Sir
Thanks for another great video. As you said, different locations may have different regulations. It's imperative that you check local and state regulations. Chances are you won't be stopped unless you are doing something obviously wrong, but if you are stopped they generally go over everything with a fine tooth comb. I don't haul my tractor very often, so I use chains. Takes longer, but they require less attention. Both do the job well. Your time putting these videos together is greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Brock.
Carpet reminents are good protection and cheap if you know a carpet installer that will give you his scraps. That's what I used when I hauled steel and glass on a flatbed.
Brock good morning 63 here sun's out we wish had a trailer but our problem it may get used 3 or 4 times year love your explanations always helps understanding God Bless All PaK
Yeah, I think the majority of people just keep their tractor at their property most of the time but hopefully this is helpful for guys like me who moved a lot. Thanks for watching
I’ve been strapping things for years and I like these straps but I’ll use them for my riding mower but when tying down a tractor this size I would definitely use chains. Remember newbies that if you’re hauling this kind of weight your gonna need a brake controller and trailer brakes.
I appreciate your videos. And the time it takes. I could be missing something here. It looks like you have your tractor pretty far forward which would cause you to have excess tounge weight. I would think you would want your trailer back a little. Obviously you need some tounge weight. After commenting I started working, youtube autoplayed another video of yours where you adressed tounge weight.
I have used straps, trying chains now. I use protector for tie down straps | neoprene pad | 4-pack | protective sleeves for ratchet straps or tie downs with cam buckle that I purchased off of Amazon to protect my straps after having the same issue you did with one getting sliced.
I’m trying to make it as simple as possible and I feel like I’ve got a pretty simple method down that works the only thing I want to add is something To protect the straps
I may be wrong. But I think I may have commented on using the jacks stands on one of the first one of your videos I watched! So you got the idea from me! Maybe Lol
Brock - I have been trailer shopping for my JD 1025R. The PJ T1 tilt trailer 16 ft caught my attention after chatting with the owner or another tilt trailer. Unloading mulch, topsoil, etc become so much easier. This is a single axle 7000# trailer designed for small equipment like a skid steer. They are uncommon since they cost more than the non-tilt. What do you think of them? For my application?
I can’t really give any kind of expert advice, but I do like the versatility of being able to pull your machine in the same trailer that you all your materials in. Dump trailers are fantastic. I’ve got a couple videos about Hauling a tractor in mine, which was dual 7000 pound axles. You just need to take measurements on length because you might be surprised how quickly you run out of room with one attachment
Straps are my choice as well. The die hard chain people will tell you different but the straps are designed for the job! Great explanation and video man
Ya the FB groups always get in a heated debate about this lol. I myself use both chains and straps its not that big of a deal to me and I know that my straps are way over rated lol.
Another important point is not that your truck can pull the weight, but can it STOP it?? Must have trailer brake control added to your truck if not already equipped with it. I need to add that to my truck when I buy a trailer for my tractor.
That’s a good point. The truck shown in the video did have a brake controller. I have since I upgraded to a Ram 2500 that also has the brake controller.
i'm going to be building a trailer in the next few weeks for hauling my tractor around ( yanmar ym330d) ... is there anything you would change to your set up ?
I ended up replacing this trailer with a gooseneck. This trailer has 3500 pound Axel’s for a total capacity of 7000 pounds. The trailer itself weighs 1800 so I can put 5200 pounds on it With the stump Grinder or Backhoe my tractor can weigh as much as 6000 pounds So, depending on what your tractor weighs, I might recommend higher rated Axels Otherwise I was happy with the design of the trailer
Go to your local fire department and see if they have any old fire hoses that you can get to run the straps inside of to prevent a sharp edge from cutting it.
I probably have a dozen videos relating to that topic. Tow capacity, Payload, tongue way, GVW are. It’s a complicated topic I use WeighSafe gauges to know how much my tongue weight is. The problem is you can’t address everything in one video. The BIG Problem with 3/4 Ton Diesel Trucks - Tow Capacity Vs Payload th-cam.com/video/yNhMLd6MJsw/w-d-xo.html
Straps are NEVER as strong as a chain. Pulled from any direction. As a general rule metal to metal or chain binding. I used to haul with straps. They develop wear points and break away if not replaced when using for equipment. A chain has never failed me. If one if thise 4 straps breaks loose you could have a problem or problems. Anything from a ticket or loss if life or property.
They definitely are as strong as chains. You’re conflating strength with durability. Something can be strong and also have a potential failure point. There are many straps that are stronger than chains. Even dramatically stronger. Also, with a strap, you can make sure it doesn’t cross any edges and inspect it for frays With a chain, if it’s damaged and has a weak point, there is a good chance you won’t know it. I think chains are better than straps for securing equipment, but I also think you misrepresented that with your statement
Whoa there, don't take it personally. We're talking about a load limit under 10k & while your correct that everything has a wearpoint. In addition while you WISELY state that chains are "probably the best way". Someone trying to load quickly using straps is more likely to make a "bad decision". The chain takes that away. In addition binding chains as well as straps should be visually inspected before EACH use. It's not common practice but the law. Especially enforced above 10k. I admire not just anyone who is willing to put themselves on public display the way you do. I do admire your hard work and dedication to your cause. Keep up the good honest hard work but loose the victim mentality. It's not about better or the right thing to do. Think about why your tractor work business left you the way it did. If you were using employee help I think you might have read my comments differently. Best regards and much respect. In addition I'm the one who liked your comment.
I definitely wouldn’t say I took it personally. As a matter, fact, I implicitly agreed with you That chains are better. I just had a minor disagreement with some of your opinions I think comments can often be read in two different voices and taken two different ways
@@RockhillfarmYT I agree. Again, were talking about loads below 10k. Most people will never haul and be responsible for weight in excess of 10k. I have owned, ran and operated light & heavy equipment. Since 17yrs old. Roughly 40 years. Some of my equipment was hauled with my semi. I roll under the philosophy taught to me that has never failed me. It takes weight to haul weight. I think we're just relaxed about our two different scenarios. I used to haul with a half ton when I started out but all my loads were under 10k. When you reach the world of 10k & up the rules change. Straps are no longer an option in most cases. I appreciate your video and take on the subject matter. As a former employer of a number of staff I just know from experience when you teach a guy to load up in 5 min with what works it can be costly. Lives are at stake out here on the road. Seeing the video and understanding what we both seemingly know worried me I guess. Thanks for the feedback and if it matters I watched a few other "how to haul your tractor videos" & I do think you covered it about as good as it gets for loads under 10k. Thanks & Best Regards.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. This is a really old video but that tractor has a listed weight of 2500 pounds without the loader. 3000 with the loader. I’ve had a ton of weight to it so it normally weighs between 4500 and 5000 pounds the way I have it set up
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Thanks for watching
I haul using straps as well. One thing to be cautious about is using open hooks on your straps. Any shift in your load, or slack in the strap can cause your strap to completely disconnect. Then your load shifts more and the others get loose and can disconnect. I have seen several cases of this. I always use straps with clip on type hooks that will not fall off. A strap may loosen but it will not completely fail.
WLL ( working load limit )of a3/8” G-70 chain is 6600 lbs. . Two inch racket webbing 3333 lbs. WLL. Good idea placing stands under rear of trailer when loading .
Good choice Brock! Straps are the way to go!
Good content.
💥 Oh oh, a controversial topic. Straps vs chains. I’ll be watching these comments. 😳
*Keep on tractoring!*
We are a couple hours in and I haven’t been called an idiot so I’d say off to a good start
@RockhillfarmYT
I was rather surprised that you thought chains were weaker than straps but I think most people are just letting it slide to be polite. Pound for pound, or possibly dollar for dollar you are probably correct. But outside that fine line, the most commonly used binder chains are much stronger than your most common cargo strap, especially in size as metal is just stronger than threads. But I'm guessing you knew that,and were referring to the dollar for dollar, or pound for pound side of the argument. It just wasn't clearly stated as such so there's confusion.
@RambunctiousHamster this is an older video so I don’t remember exactly what I said, but I really doubt that I said straps were stronger than chains.
I use chains on certain equipment and straps on certain equipment. I have a video on using chains and binders.
Straps can be strong enough for a small tractor.
I am considering getting a trailer for my Deere. Thank you for all the tips & tricks about size, loading & tying down the tractor. Much appreciated Brock. Enjoy your day Sir
Thank you for watching
Thanks for another great video. As you said, different locations may have different regulations. It's imperative that you check local and state regulations. Chances are you won't be stopped unless you are doing something obviously wrong, but if you are stopped they generally go over everything with a fine tooth comb. I don't haul my tractor very often, so I use chains. Takes longer, but they require less attention. Both do the job well. Your time putting these videos together is greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Brock.
Thanks for watching and for commenting
Carpet reminents are good protection and cheap if you know a carpet installer that will give you his scraps. That's what I used when I hauled steel and glass on a flatbed.
Not sure why I didn’t think of that. we buy carpet by the roll for our main business and have tons of leftover strips
Brock good morning 63 here sun's out we wish had a trailer but our problem it may get used 3 or 4 times year love your explanations always helps understanding
God Bless All
PaK
Yeah, I think the majority of people just keep their tractor at their property most of the time but hopefully this is helpful for guys like me who moved a lot.
Thanks for watching
I’ve been strapping things for years and I like these straps but I’ll use them for my riding mower but when tying down a tractor this size I would definitely use chains.
Remember newbies that if you’re hauling this kind of weight your gonna need a brake controller and trailer brakes.
Chains for primary locations are my choice. Straps as backup.
great information dude. it is greatly appreciated.
Great video Brock. I am thinking about buying a trailer to transport my 2038R and straps are the way to go. Thanks for making this video.
Yeah, I’ve got a pretty smooth routine down with the straps
I appreciate your videos. And the time it takes. I could be missing something here. It looks like you have your tractor pretty far forward which would cause you to have excess tounge weight. I would think you would want your trailer back a little. Obviously you need some tounge weight. After commenting I started working, youtube autoplayed another video of yours where you adressed tounge weight.
I have used straps, trying chains now. I use protector for tie down straps | neoprene pad | 4-pack | protective sleeves for ratchet straps or tie downs with cam buckle that I purchased off of Amazon to protect my straps after having the same issue you did with one getting sliced.
I’m trying to make it as simple as possible and I feel like I’ve got a pretty simple method down that works
the only thing I want to add is something To protect the straps
I would sure like to make some ramps for my trailer like you have and how do you stow them? A TH-cam?
You don't have to secure the JD. Just select the first gear, take the break and drive slowly 😂👍👍
Yeah, that John Deere doesn’t go anywhere it doesn’t want to.
I really just try the trailer to it so I don’t lose the trailer
I just purchased a 16 foot GN dump trailer…… plan to do a review on my channel as well……. Thanks for the strap explanation…… I will be using them too.
I’ve been running loads in the dump trailer all day today.
Such an amazing tool for getting work done.
Thanks for watching
@@RockhillfarmYT You are correct . . .
I may be wrong. But I think I may have commented on using the jacks stands on one of the first one of your videos I watched! So you got the idea from me! Maybe Lol
Most of my good ideas come from viewers
Brock - I have been trailer shopping for my JD 1025R. The PJ T1 tilt trailer 16 ft caught my attention after chatting with the owner or another tilt trailer. Unloading mulch, topsoil, etc become so much easier. This is a single axle 7000# trailer designed for small equipment like a skid steer. They are uncommon since they cost more than the non-tilt. What do you think of them? For my application?
I can’t really give any kind of expert advice, but I do like the versatility of being able to pull your machine in the same trailer that you all your materials in.
Dump trailers are fantastic.
I’ve got a couple videos about Hauling a tractor in mine, which was dual 7000 pound axles.
You just need to take measurements on length because you might be surprised how quickly you run out of room with one attachment
Straps are my choice as well. The die hard chain people will tell you different but the straps are designed for the job! Great explanation and video man
Yeah, as long as you don’t tighten them up against a sharp edge they have all the strength you need
I use a chain in the back and straps on the front. I made a similar video about this.
I will check that out
@@RockhillfarmYT Thanks Brock.
Ya the FB groups always get in a heated debate about this lol. I myself use both chains and straps its not that big of a deal to me and I know that my straps are way over rated lol.
I like simple, and this works for me.
Thanks for watching
Another important point is not that your truck can pull the weight, but can it STOP it?? Must have trailer brake control added to your truck if not already equipped with it. I need to add that to my truck when I buy a trailer for my tractor.
That’s a good point. The truck shown in the video did have a brake controller. I have since I upgraded to a Ram 2500 that also has the brake controller.
For the average 30 hp or smaller tractor 🚜 a 16 foot trailer is plenty big. I use a 20 foot trailer for my 60 hp tractor with a backhoe
i'm going to be building a trailer in the next few weeks for hauling my tractor around ( yanmar ym330d) ... is there anything you would change to your set up ?
I ended up replacing this trailer with a gooseneck. This trailer has 3500 pound Axel’s for a total capacity of 7000 pounds. The trailer itself weighs 1800 so I can put 5200 pounds on it
With the stump Grinder or Backhoe my tractor can weigh as much as 6000 pounds
So, depending on what your tractor weighs, I might recommend higher rated Axels
Otherwise I was happy with the design of the trailer
What truck you using there
That’s the 2019 ram 1500 Limited I had before upgrading to a 2500
How much does your load weigh
Go to your local fire department and see if they have any old fire hoses that you can get to run the straps inside of to prevent a sharp edge from cutting it.
You could address making sure the trailer is capable of carrying the weight of the equipment.
I probably have a dozen videos relating to that topic. Tow capacity, Payload, tongue way, GVW are. It’s a complicated topic
I use WeighSafe gauges to know how much my tongue weight is.
The problem is you can’t address everything in one video.
The BIG Problem with 3/4 Ton Diesel Trucks - Tow Capacity Vs Payload
th-cam.com/video/yNhMLd6MJsw/w-d-xo.html
Flipping the back of your truck
Straps are NEVER as strong as a chain. Pulled from any direction. As a general rule metal to metal or chain binding. I used to haul with straps. They develop wear points and break away if not replaced when using for equipment. A chain has never failed me. If one if thise 4 straps breaks loose you could have a problem or problems. Anything from a ticket or loss if life or property.
They definitely are as strong as chains. You’re conflating strength with durability.
Something can be strong and also have a potential failure point. There are many straps that are stronger than chains. Even dramatically stronger.
Also, with a strap, you can make sure it doesn’t cross any edges and inspect it for frays
With a chain, if it’s damaged and has a weak point, there is a good chance you won’t know it.
I think chains are better than straps for securing equipment, but I also think you misrepresented that with your statement
Whoa there, don't take it personally. We're talking about a load limit under 10k & while your correct that everything has a wearpoint. In addition while you WISELY state that chains are "probably the best way". Someone trying to load quickly using straps is more likely to make a "bad decision". The chain takes that away. In addition binding chains as well as straps should be visually inspected before EACH use. It's not common practice but the law. Especially enforced above 10k. I admire not just anyone who is willing to put themselves on public display the way you do. I do admire your hard work and dedication to your cause. Keep up the good honest hard work but loose the victim mentality. It's not about better or the right thing to do. Think about why your tractor work business left you the way it did. If you were using employee help I think you might have read my comments differently. Best regards and much respect. In addition I'm the one who liked your comment.
I definitely wouldn’t say I took it personally. As a matter, fact, I implicitly agreed with you That chains are better.
I just had a minor disagreement with some of your opinions
I think comments can often be read in two different voices and taken two different ways
@@RockhillfarmYT I agree. Again, were talking about loads below 10k. Most people will never haul and be responsible for weight in excess of 10k. I have owned, ran and operated light & heavy equipment. Since 17yrs old. Roughly 40 years. Some of my equipment was hauled with my semi. I roll under the philosophy taught to me that has never failed me. It takes weight to haul weight. I think we're just relaxed about our two different scenarios. I used to haul with a half ton when I started out but all my loads were under 10k. When you reach the world of 10k & up the rules change. Straps are no longer an option in most cases. I appreciate your video and take on the subject matter. As a former employer of a number of staff I just know from experience when you teach a guy to load up in 5 min with what works it can be costly. Lives are at stake out here on the road. Seeing the video and understanding what we both seemingly know worried me I guess. Thanks for the feedback and if it matters I watched a few other "how to haul your tractor videos" & I do think you covered it about as good as it gets for loads under 10k. Thanks & Best Regards.
There's no way that's 3000lbs with a bucket and a box blade. I bet it's 3300 without the box blade and loader. I'd bet money it's over 4000
I don’t know what you’re talking about. This is a really old video but that tractor has a listed weight of 2500 pounds without the loader. 3000 with the loader.
I’ve had a ton of weight to it so it normally weighs between 4500 and 5000 pounds the way I have it set up