I have the first gen of these and was totally disappointed. And there was no real update between the two, so I didn't waste the money on these. Great vid.
While I do like you reviews I don't think it's fair to dismiss other reviews and say stuff when you don't really know them. Just review the product. Why even mention other reviewers.
I have to agree. Different people have different use cases. He says "im not just sitting at a desk like some reviewers" but some some people's use case is literally sitting at a desk. He says "the anc HAS to be good" but some people could care less about anc. And he literally says everyone's ears are different, then proceeds to paint some big conspiracy that other youtube are purposefully not telling you how unconformable they are, completely ignoring the fact that it could literally just be comfortable for their ears. I appreciate honesty, i really do, but thinking a little more before speaking would go a long way
Haha I love how this dude just gives it straight up. These big name brands are living on literally just that. They could deliver a piece of poop in a box with their name on it and people will buy it...
Actually the sound potential is phenomenal with its two drivers per bud, but mids are recessed a bit and cant be EQed. Fit is no issue with me but I changed to AZ80 now due to much higher usability and better mids.
Brother, if your ear canals are small or oddly shaped, just say so lmao. The actual sound quality, the impedance, etc. blows every other earbud except for the XM5 out of the water. Don't lump in sound quality with comfort. These S2's clearrrrrr the majority of those high tier earbuds outside of noise-cancellation and comfort.
I can tell you've never designed, marketed or launched any type of consumer facing product. You're saying the equivalent of "don't worry if the car has seatbelts or passed crash inspecting, just know it looks cool and goes fast". that's not how we should approach products.
@@Fredo.heavyy Marketing products and businesses is actually my job, but making assumptions seems to be yours! Trying to compare "earbuds that are uncomfortable to you" with "cars that don't have seatbelts or pass regulations" just shows you have a super reactionary and 30-minute insight into this product review. You claim that these have worse sound quality than XM5s and other top models, when user testing, impedance, wave-length data, driver data show otherwise. I've used all these top earbuds considerably and none are close in terms of pure audio quality except for the XM5. Just say they don't fit your small ears, because these are comfortable for the majority of users/reviewers out there, or else you'd hear A LOT of complaints otherwise. Also, you can keep complaining about how you THINK the case will scratch, how you think it feels cheap, but you haven't used it more than 30-45 minutes my guy. B&W's case is light years ahead of competitors with it's 3.5mm connectivity. No other case is close, and size/durability doesn't win out over functionality.
@@davidlee1119 Everyone does marketing and business now huh? Im talking on a global scale for multi billion dollar brands that DON'T want returns or recalls. Also my comparison is grounded whether you accept it or not. PI7 S2 are mid, especially at the $400 price point and regardless of "comfort". Either way you and I are both longing for a PI7 S3 with improved designed, BT 5.4, larger driver, better IP rating etc etc etc Also there's no way you're daily driving only a pair of PI7 S2, so what's the actual pair in your pocket rn?
They are comfortable in my ears using the smallest tips. Interestingly a hifi magazine that reviewed these pointed out that about half their team who helped review these felt they were uncomfortable the other half were happy with wearing them. The point is you need to try them first before purchase.
I enjoy your reviews, to the point and a different take, which helps me build a more overall perspective alongside other reviews. There’s only one bud that I’d be intrigued to hear your view on, the Cambridge Audio Melomania M100. Brand new from them, keen to understand if their sound quality is peak performance. Sound quality and comfort is all I really care about, so it’s them vs the Tozo Golden X1 for my next purchase.
People on headfi having issues with connectivity stability on the M100's. AptX Adaptive dropping to a super-low res version even though source and buds are
great review. Appreciate the fact that you didn't linger around the subject till you tell us your conclussion, even with the risk of people leaving the video. Most of the influencers out there are waiting until the end of the video to tell what's important. I watched the whole video tho, good quality and review, and ofc I was considering them. +1 sub
Hey man! Just found your channel! Thank you for savnig me from 400 dollars badly spent! Im looking for headphones / earphones right now. My only real concern is to have real good sound quality. I love deep immersive sounds. Is there anything that you would recommend for that pricepoint? (Or lower)
Get the new Pi8 or Pi6 from B&W, they’re amazing. Still testing them right now but I have an initial though video here: th-cam.com/video/U591hjkNYuA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QAFbapoAAod4so6D
I'm glad you are up front with your review, but I personally have not had any discomfort with these in ear headphones. I have an over ear Beats headphones for daily use to the gym, and these little pi7 earbuds produce better quality sound. It is excellent quality sound. I'm not a TH-cam vloggers. I'm a real customer, and again I have no issues with discomfort. Maybe people's ears are different and B&W still needs to address that so all customers are happy. However, for me there has been absolutely no discomfort waring these headphones for extended use. these are the highest quality earbud headphones i have ever had. I do agree the passthrough mode needs to be easier to turn on, and not from only the app.
Thanks for your input/comment. You gotta try the new Pi8 or Pi6, Bowers and Wilkins admits they needed to rework the design for more comfort. The Pi8 are now my favorite earbuds of 2024, amazing comfort, aware mode on par with AirPods and amazing ANC.
I've had these for over a year and yes it took about a week to mold them into my ear,(semi painful), I only use them for the gym to experience the best quality frequency. I paired them with the Qobuz app to take full advantage. Yes they are hefty on the price tag, but if all you care about is sound quality these sound amazing. Everything else though, Mic, ANC, features etc... they are lacking, but I love the sound. Best i've had sound quality wise next to the Beoplay EX. Is the price tag justified just for sound quality? probably not, but they do truly immerse you in the sound quality category.
@@Fredo.heavyy the sound in the Beoplay EQ is amazing, they don't get too loud tho'... And the EX are supposed to be even better, I was curious about your opinion on them... And the reason I asked if you test your buds on an Iphone is because of the buds Codec APTX/APTX HD/APTX Adaptive or in the MTW4 case APTX Lossless which isn't supported by apple. I asked you 'cause I notice a heavy improvement soundwise as soon as I activated the Aptx Adaptive Hi-Res on my MTW3 Also, I was a little sceptical when I started watching your videos, but I must admit I'm liking them a lot and thank you for interacting in your comment section. I appreciate it a lot
You gotta do the samsung buds3 pro, looking forward to them. Ive gotten each gen that has come out and they work great. Also i compared both B&W pi7 s2 specs and the SB3P, and they are practically the same
@@lifestapestry2968 lol. What is your goal? And how is it related to price vs quality of a headphone? You sound like someone who thinks he's now rich cause grandpa just gave him 50 bucks 😂. Quit the pompous attitude. I made my point, when you pay $300 for earbuds it must be good, not just fine.
I ordered a pair. I build my own hifi loudspeakers as well as have experience with high end audio. B&W have made excellent high end and entry level products wich is why i purchased these. I will follow-up when i have heard them and see how this review stacks up. In general you wont get much on iphone with these iphone codecs make it mid-teir. Gott go android for these
Says other people dont know what quality is Anymore, starts to complain that his ears are too small... Sounds like a you problem dude, my first gen Pi7 fitts my ears perfectly.
Brother, you are testing earbuds ... with an iPhone. Lol. iPhone doesnt even support AptX or LDAC, which are the best codecs. What sound do you expect?😂
One of the worst reviews I have never seen, it's quite clear that you don't know sheit about HIFI. If they don't fit your ears, send them back. You're only talking about ergonomics and not discussing the drivers, the sound range, you haven't measured anything, it's all BS from to A to Z.
Ergonomics is equally IF not more important than sound quality. Stop white knighting these buds, they probably sit in a drawer unused gathering dust if you own them. Also I’m not a “reviewer” Doc.
@@Fredo.heavyy if you're not a reviewer, why do you review them? And as I said, if you don't like the ergos, send them back, as easy as that. They are not perfect, but the sound quality is up there and the frequencies they are operating at are impressive. But not to say they are the best on the market but they are up there with Bose Quietcomfort II for instance. I am HIFI freak and that's why I gave you my opinion. Sorry if it was a bit harsh, but I got a bit caught up in the lack of details about frequencies and noise cancelling etc. We good?
Agree ，People who buy this only care about sound quality. We don't care about ergonomics or CP rate. Have you ever seen someone who can afford B&W 802 tell you that the speaker is too big and inconvenient to place?
I have the first gen of these and was totally disappointed. And there was no real update between the two, so I didn't waste the money on these. Great vid.
THEY FIT PERFECTLY
AND EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE
THEY NEVER FADED
THE SOUND IS AWESOME
While I do like you reviews I don't think it's fair to dismiss other reviews and say stuff when you don't really know them. Just review the product. Why even mention other reviewers.
Man do I have a video for you!
th-cam.com/video/Hd22DYX9mPc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NplnediRBnvp4vbB
I have to agree. Different people have different use cases. He says "im not just sitting at a desk like some reviewers" but some some people's use case is literally sitting at a desk. He says "the anc HAS to be good" but some people could care less about anc. And he literally says everyone's ears are different, then proceeds to paint some big conspiracy that other youtube are purposefully not telling you how unconformable they are, completely ignoring the fact that it could literally just be comfortable for their ears. I appreciate honesty, i really do, but thinking a little more before speaking would go a long way
Haha I love how this dude just gives it straight up. These big name brands are living on literally just that. They could deliver a piece of poop in a box with their name on it and people will buy it...
Lol
I appreciate you providing me with more information to consider❤
Dope review! Thank you I was about to order theses.
Actually the sound potential is phenomenal with its two drivers per bud, but mids are recessed a bit and cant be EQed. Fit is no issue with me but I changed to AZ80 now due to much higher usability and better mids.
Could you check out the Denon Perl Pros please?
Brother, if your ear canals are small or oddly shaped, just say so lmao. The actual sound quality, the impedance, etc. blows every other earbud except for the XM5 out of the water. Don't lump in sound quality with comfort.
These S2's clearrrrrr the majority of those high tier earbuds outside of noise-cancellation and comfort.
I can tell you've never designed, marketed or launched any type of consumer facing product.
You're saying the equivalent of "don't worry if the car has seatbelts or passed crash inspecting, just know it looks cool and goes fast".
that's not how we should approach products.
@@Fredo.heavyy Marketing products and businesses is actually my job, but making assumptions seems to be yours!
Trying to compare "earbuds that are uncomfortable to you" with "cars that don't have seatbelts or pass regulations" just shows you have a super reactionary and 30-minute insight into this product review.
You claim that these have worse sound quality than XM5s and other top models, when user testing, impedance, wave-length data, driver data show otherwise. I've used all these top earbuds considerably and none are close in terms of pure audio quality except for the XM5.
Just say they don't fit your small ears, because these are comfortable for the majority of users/reviewers out there, or else you'd hear A LOT of complaints otherwise.
Also, you can keep complaining about how you THINK the case will scratch, how you think it feels cheap, but you haven't used it more than 30-45 minutes my guy. B&W's case is light years ahead of competitors with it's 3.5mm connectivity. No other case is close, and size/durability doesn't win out over functionality.
@@davidlee1119 Everyone does marketing and business now huh?
Im talking on a global scale for multi billion dollar brands that DON'T want returns or recalls.
Also my comparison is grounded whether you accept it or not.
PI7 S2 are mid, especially at the $400 price point and regardless of "comfort".
Either way you and I are both longing for a PI7 S3 with improved designed, BT 5.4, larger driver, better IP rating etc etc etc
Also there's no way you're daily driving only a pair of PI7 S2, so what's the actual pair in your pocket rn?
I disagree about this review as they are very comfortable in ear and the sound quality is fantastic!
I’d rather get the Gemini 2 if paying that price
Appreciate the reviews my man. Keep it up
They are comfortable in my ears using the smallest tips. Interestingly a hifi magazine that reviewed these pointed out that about half their team who helped review these felt they were uncomfortable the other half were happy with wearing them. The point is you need to try them first before purchase.
I enjoy your reviews, to the point and a different take, which helps me build a more overall perspective alongside other reviews. There’s only one bud that I’d be intrigued to hear your view on, the Cambridge Audio Melomania M100. Brand new from them, keen to understand if their sound quality is peak performance. Sound quality and comfort is all I really care about, so it’s them vs the Tozo Golden X1 for my next purchase.
I saw that drop from Cambridge, probably pick them up later this month for review.
@@Fredo.heavyyWaiting for this!
People on headfi having issues with connectivity stability on the M100's. AptX Adaptive dropping to a super-low res version even though source and buds are
Excellent practical honest straight to the point review, thanks
great review. Appreciate the fact that you didn't linger around the subject till you tell us your conclussion, even with the risk of people leaving the video. Most of the influencers out there are waiting until the end of the video to tell what's important.
I watched the whole video tho, good quality and review, and ofc I was considering them. +1 sub
Hey man! Just found your channel! Thank you for savnig me from 400 dollars badly spent! Im looking for headphones / earphones right now. My only real concern is to have real good sound quality. I love deep immersive sounds. Is there anything that you would recommend for that pricepoint? (Or lower)
Get the new Pi8 or Pi6 from B&W, they’re amazing. Still testing them right now but I have an initial though video here: th-cam.com/video/U591hjkNYuA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QAFbapoAAod4so6D
@@Fredo.heavyy Thank you so much! Watching your video right now! Great videos my man. Easy sub!
I'm glad you are up front with your review, but I personally have not had any discomfort with these in ear headphones.
I have an over ear Beats headphones for daily use to the gym, and these little pi7 earbuds produce better quality sound. It is excellent quality sound.
I'm not a TH-cam vloggers. I'm a real customer, and again I have no issues with discomfort. Maybe people's ears are different and B&W still needs to address that so all customers are happy. However, for me there has been absolutely no discomfort waring these headphones for extended use. these are the highest quality earbud headphones i have ever had.
I do agree the passthrough mode needs to be easier to turn on, and not from only the app.
Thanks for your input/comment.
You gotta try the new Pi8 or Pi6, Bowers and Wilkins admits they needed to rework the design for more comfort.
The Pi8 are now my favorite earbuds of 2024, amazing comfort, aware mode on par with AirPods and amazing ANC.
Missed you❤
I've had these for over a year and yes it took about a week to mold them into my ear,(semi painful), I only use them for the gym to experience the best quality frequency. I paired them with the Qobuz app to take full advantage. Yes they are hefty on the price tag, but if all you care about is sound quality these sound amazing. Everything else though, Mic, ANC, features etc... they are lacking, but I love the sound. Best i've had sound quality wise next to the Beoplay EX. Is the price tag justified just for sound quality? probably not, but they do truly immerse you in the sound quality category.
Please, do a review of OnePlus Buds Pro 2
They’re awesome aren’t they!
Curious about Fredos opinion about the sound. But he will tear the app and the controls to pieces.
I can buy these used for 100 bucks is that a good deal ? Or is there something else i should check out
Avoid these, save up and get the Bose quiet comfort gen 2
@@Fredo.heavyy okay thanks
What do you think of the Beoplay EX? Also, are you testing your headphones on an Iphone?
Almost picked up a pair of the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay EQ for the low
What device do you use them with?
@@Fredo.heavyy the sound in the Beoplay EQ is amazing, they don't get too loud tho'... And the EX are supposed to be even better, I was curious about your opinion on them...
And the reason I asked if you test your buds on an Iphone is because of the buds Codec APTX/APTX HD/APTX Adaptive or in the MTW4 case APTX Lossless which isn't supported by apple. I asked you 'cause I notice a heavy improvement soundwise as soon as I activated the Aptx Adaptive Hi-Res on my MTW3
Also, I was a little sceptical when I started watching your videos, but I must admit I'm liking them a lot and thank you for interacting in your comment section. I appreciate it a lot
You gotta do the samsung buds3 pro, looking forward to them. Ive gotten each gen that has come out and they work great.
Also i compared both B&W pi7 s2 specs and the SB3P, and they are practically the same
They fit fine with me and sound fine. Everyone's ears are different. Horses for courses.....
Fine is not enough when you spend $300
@@jasonMB999 you could spend a lot more..
@@lifestapestry2968 so?
@jasonMB999 a lot to some is not a lot to others..
@@lifestapestry2968 lol. What is your goal? And how is it related to price vs quality of a headphone? You sound like someone who thinks he's now rich cause grandpa just gave him 50 bucks 😂. Quit the pompous attitude. I made my point, when you pay $300 for earbuds it must be good, not just fine.
Can you please review the B&O BeoPlay EX?
Should i get these or the devialet gemini ii ?
leaning more towards devialet gemini ii
Leading with your truth. Good man!
I ordered a pair. I build my own hifi loudspeakers as well as have experience with high end audio. B&W have made excellent high end and entry level products wich is why i purchased these.
I will follow-up when i have heard them and see how this review stacks up.
In general you wont get much on iphone with these iphone codecs make it mid-teir. Gott go android for these
How did you end up finding these?
Just one (literally one!) sentence about sound quality in a earbuds review?
If he doesn't have to wear earbuds, that's the best comfortable way. 😂
Says other people dont know what quality is Anymore, starts to complain that his ears are too small... Sounds like a you problem dude, my first gen Pi7 fitts my ears perfectly.
They don't feel cheap, but they have ergonomic issues.
Brother, you are testing earbuds ... with an iPhone. Lol.
iPhone doesnt even support AptX or LDAC, which are the best codecs. What sound do you expect?😂
This vs beoplay ex?
nice review
I dont think he tested the real ones. They feel awesome and the built quality is above the competition.
What other buds are in your rotation?
Case doesn’t look cheap at all.
Feels cheap, don’t let the faux brushed metal fool you
@@Fredo.heavyy got it thank you ,after watching your video I pulled the trigger and ordered pi8’s from Amazon.
Yep, sent mine back!
Tell the truth and shame the devil dude:)
One of the worst reviews I have never seen, it's quite clear that you don't know sheit about HIFI. If they don't fit your ears, send them back. You're only talking about ergonomics and not discussing the drivers, the sound range, you haven't measured anything, it's all BS from to A to Z.
Ergonomics is equally IF not more important than sound quality.
Stop white knighting these buds, they probably sit in a drawer unused gathering dust if you own them.
Also I’m not a “reviewer” Doc.
@@Fredo.heavyy if you're not a reviewer, why do you review them? And as I said, if you don't like the ergos, send them back, as easy as that. They are not perfect, but the sound quality is up there and the frequencies they are operating at are impressive. But not to say they are the best on the market but they are up there with Bose Quietcomfort II for instance. I am HIFI freak and that's why I gave you my opinion. Sorry if it was a bit harsh, but I got a bit caught up in the lack of details about frequencies and noise cancelling etc. We good?
Agree ，People who buy this only care about sound quality. We don't care about ergonomics or CP rate. Have you ever seen someone who can afford B&W 802 tell you that the speaker is too big and inconvenient to place?
Yes me, I can afford them and I don’t want unnecessary thing.
We exist
Yea no worries, internet is fair play