The build only has 70% armor penetration. Here is why: Armor pen stacks multiplicatively not additively, lethality is the inverse. What this means is you have 10 lethality and buy 10 more lethality you get through 20 armor. If you have 35% armor penetration and buy another 35% armor penetration, it stacks so that the second portion of penetration reduces 35% of 65% which leaves the opponent with 42.25% of their original armor. Black cleaver’s 30% armor shred puts them at 29.575% armor not 0. Clearly nobody actually listened to deep league on how the mathematically correct pantheon build works.
@@efrainmancilla6972 It doesn't matter that it's reduction. it matters from a gameplay perspective, but from a 1v1 perspective, black cleaver's reduction and lord dom's penetration end up doing the same thing to your actual damage dealt.
Have they learned nothing from the very forest deep league mathematical pantheon video? Its the 1 thing he thought us. % pen doesnt get additiond it gets multiplied. Ahhhh
Taking a break from my usual silly comments and just wanna take a second to thank Ross for the years of great content. You are the man Ross. #laddergang
Not to be that guy, but i dont think armor pen scales like that. I think you woulf have around 70% armor pen with the 2 items that the build suggested, and darius passive together. Thats why crit and lethality is best on people with armor pen in their kit. But correct me if im wrong
The spin-to-win squad: Any 4 from Garen, Darius, Katarina, Samira, Wukong, Hecarim, Jax and Trynd. Ross must pilot Lillia (while speaking Scottish). Bonus points if everyone takes Stridebreaker/Goredrinker. Day 71
I'm sad to inform you that the math doesn't check out, armor penetration doesn't scale linearly and black cleaver cuts their armor instead of actually giving you armor penetration. Yes it does destroy armor stacking opponents but sadly you don't actually start dealing "true damage". You can even see it in the vid before Ross finishes LDR he has 25% armor pen from E passive after he finishes it he has 40% armor penetration instead of 60% (35% LDR + 25% E passive). Keep up the cool content tho ^^
League of Legends but it's the Shuriman Empire: Azir, Xerath, and 3 other Shuriman champions (doesn't particularly matter who). Everyone has to follow the Azir's orders, except for Xerath, who does the opposite League of Legends but it's SOCCER: you have a Rammus, with a Blitzcrank, Lee Sin, Gragas, Maokai, and/or Alistar (an ultimate total of four) on the enemy team who then divide into two teams amongst themselves. Have a Twisted Fate on Rammus's team, and a Katarina on the player's team, who will both function as referee's. Everyone with their soccer skins. TF can gold card Rammus if he decides to start moving. Rules are up to you, play soccer how you will. League of Lovers: Ahri, Seraphine, Rakan, and Evelynn, the only people in the game with the charm mechanic (and also Xayah because they're loverbirds). League of Legends but Ryze's ult is a Nuke: you grab Ryze and four other people with big damage circular ultimates (eg Nunus, Neekos, Fiddlesticks, etc). League of Legends but Kayn knows consent is important so he has to ask before he can ult. League of Legends but it's just a series where you follow Darkkmane's guides League of Legends but you use the time you have in Mordekaiser's Ult to try out pickup lines on the victim. League of Legends but it's Avatar: The Last Airbender: Water (Nami, Pyke), Earth (Taliyah, Malphite, Rell, or Ornn), Fire (Brand, Annie, or Ornn), Air (Janna or Yasuo), and the Avatar (Qiyana, Udyr, Aphelios, or Elementalist Lux.) Day 437
hemorrage is not triggering dark harvest if i remberd it correctly, when i tried to run this build back then when cleaver was giving 24% armor shred, also you can definitely see its still not working on 15:58 when koz has hemorrage stacks and is lower than 50% hp
also about darius ult countered with grounded, if you ult it counts as mid-air and doesnt give you invincibilty so with that being said yasuo can ult you while you casting your ult. No joking, it happened to me, i dont have any proofs but honest man says honest things, right?
Mundo's Medical Team: Mundo Jungler, Singed top, Akali mid, Shen support and Kennen Adc (champions either have medical skins or has "medical" experience) . Ross plays as Mundo. Everyone then takes Moonstone Renewer and then cure the enemy patients of life. Day 105
Saw someone think this worked on Wukong. For some reason they built lethality after reaching "100%" armorpen. At the very least this person recommended crit
Day 85 of tutorial League of Legends: Go MF, Lux, Yi, Darius, & Ahri. Use the Arcane Comet rune page from the 1st stage. You choose the roles, but everyone runs Ghost/Heal. Buy only recommended items. Thornmail is required in honor of Thornmail Ashe. Win or lose, say "Thanks for the tutorial"
Armor pen stacks like tenacity. Two sources of 30% armor pen is not 60% armor pen. It is 70% armor acknowledgement twice. It’s 49% because 0.70x0.70 = 0.49
Man, math is hard. This reminds me of warframe red crit chance. What the fuck even is it? Anyways, great games, thanks for making me not depressed. Thank you so much.
Listen up. Tryndamere but he's immortal forever: Tryndamere top Taric jungle Kayle mid Kindred adc Zilean support And you build guardian angel (obviously) Have fun making your enemies go nuts :]
Did no one learn anything from the prowler's claw pantheon build!? The whole point was that Percent pen doesn't stack well, which is why you build lethality on champs that have inherent percent pen
slightest adversity? the 2000s as young adult are horrid and demoralizing because there is an ongoing apocalypse, finding the risk reward evaluation on long term decisions difficult to morbidly frustrating is probably a sign of mental health
Hey, Ross, i did this in a random ass game and thought it was fuckin fun, Chemtank, Youmuu's, Deadman's, Swifties/Mobies, Cosmic Drive, Lich Bane, Sorc Pot on Rakan, can replace boots with an Aether Wisp and slap on Iron instead of Sorc
Alright Ross, so you are having a stag party with the lads and decide to make a trip to Vegas to gamble and debauchery except you all don't actually like to gamble so you just stick to slot machines and spin to win Just like the team comp you need to play with Darius Lillia Tryndamere Garen and Samira
Day 242, we passed over the 2/3 of a year fellas! Should be soon, since that is apparently how we gotta do it - Do maximum Movement speed Nocturne, because you can run from your nightmares, but they are faster than you. Especially if you are an ADC. Day 213, hell yeyah over two centuries - Play with the following team of five: Annie, Ivern, Shaco, Yorick, + (optional 5th pick) Azir/Kindred/Kled and Skarl/Lulu and Pix/Malzahar/Neeko/Nunu and Willump/Quinn and Valor/Sejuani and Bristle - so that the match is a 10+ v 5.
on hit perma shield rakan rakan passive shield cd lowers 1s every time he aa a champion at lvl 18 the normal cd is 15 seconds nashors shield scaling and more shields atk spd boots more atks more shield shieldbow being unkillable bork sustain and kite power to live till next shield rageblade more damage pd even more movement speed and atk spd lethal tempo overheal tenacity last stand shield bash revitalize atk spd adaptive armor
riot told me gwen dealt damage based on her hp so i made gwen THICC. recommended build: Frostfire Gauntlet, Warmog's Armor, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Demonic Embrace, Gargoyle Stoneplate and Plate Steelcaps. day 180
It doesn't stack. If you had pressed C at anytime you could have seen you had only 50ish % armor pen and cleaver applies after that so it takes only 30% of the remaining armor. I think lethality is more efficient at that point.
Full ocean team because you’re the ocean man and you’re leading them to the land that is the enemy nexus bonus points for staff of flowing water day 12
The build only has 70% armor penetration. Here is why: Armor pen stacks multiplicatively not additively, lethality is the inverse. What this means is you have 10 lethality and buy 10 more lethality you get through 20 armor. If you have 35% armor penetration and buy another 35% armor penetration, it stacks so that the second portion of penetration reduces 35% of 65% which leaves the opponent with 42.25% of their original armor. Black cleaver’s 30% armor shred puts them at 29.575% armor not 0.
Clearly nobody actually listened to deep league on how the mathematically correct pantheon build works.
Maths
Also I kept thinking, Eclipse literally gives 4% armor pen
dayum son!
Also, black cleaver has percentage armor reduction. Which is calculated separately and before percentage armor penetration
@@efrainmancilla6972 It doesn't matter that it's reduction. it matters from a gameplay perspective, but from a 1v1 perspective, black cleaver's reduction and lord dom's penetration end up doing the same thing to your actual damage dealt.
70.425% armor penetration. Armor penetration stacks multiplicatively, and BC is more reduction than pen.
Have they learned nothing from the very forest deep league mathematical pantheon video?
Its the 1 thing he thought us.
% pen doesnt get additiond it gets multiplied.
Ahhhh
@@THEJPIndustry added*
I think if sunderer was in the build it would be very close to 100%
So you toss a seryldas grudge on it and you're shredding them
@@colelewis2482 Serylda's and LDR don't stack.
Full movement speed Karma because "karma always catches up to you", we hit day 100, let's goooo!
I think he already tried something like this a really long time ago.
@@swaglandking2347 nope, his only Karma videos are tank Karma, both of them. Not movement speed focused
why not pick a strat that sounds fun? that might help
U have 100 likes idk if I should like
I just want him to play chogath But he already ate earlier today so he's not hungry.
Taking a break from my usual silly comments and just wanna take a second to thank Ross for the years of great content. You are the man Ross.
#laddergang
Not to be that guy, but i dont think armor pen scales like that. I think you woulf have around 70% armor pen with the 2 items that the build suggested, and darius passive together. Thats why crit and lethality is best on people with armor pen in their kit. But correct me if im wrong
Your right
% get multiplied
Pen gets additioned
you would have 70% but after 5 basic attacks on an enemy you would in theory have 100% against them
@@FacelessShrewd Darius passive stacks cleaver, so you don't need to auto 5 times.
I would love to see an all yordles team, but everyone builds Frostfire Gauntlet, because they don't want to be small anymore
Gnar also can become big.
Mega-Gnar
The spin-to-win squad: Any 4 from Garen, Darius, Katarina, Samira, Wukong, Hecarim, Jax and Trynd.
Ross must pilot Lillia (while speaking Scottish).
Bonus points if everyone takes Stridebreaker/Goredrinker.
Day 71
Coudnt sylas also join in?
I'm sad to inform you that the math doesn't check out, armor penetration doesn't scale linearly and black cleaver cuts their armor instead of actually giving you armor penetration. Yes it does destroy armor stacking opponents but sadly you don't actually start dealing "true damage". You can even see it in the vid before Ross finishes LDR he has 25% armor pen from E passive after he finishes it he has 40% armor penetration instead of 60% (35% LDR + 25% E passive). Keep up the cool content tho ^^
nobody gets cleaver worsk a little differently than just getting armor pen
League of Legends but it's the Shuriman Empire: Azir, Xerath, and 3 other Shuriman champions (doesn't particularly matter who). Everyone has to follow the Azir's orders, except for Xerath, who does the opposite
League of Legends but it's SOCCER: you have a Rammus, with a Blitzcrank, Lee Sin, Gragas, Maokai, and/or Alistar (an ultimate total of four) on the enemy team who then divide into two teams amongst themselves. Have a Twisted Fate on Rammus's team, and a Katarina on the player's team, who will both function as referee's. Everyone with their soccer skins. TF can gold card Rammus if he decides to start moving. Rules are up to you, play soccer how you will.
League of Lovers: Ahri, Seraphine, Rakan, and Evelynn, the only people in the game with the charm mechanic (and also Xayah because they're loverbirds).
League of Legends but Ryze's ult is a Nuke: you grab Ryze and four other people with big damage circular ultimates (eg Nunus, Neekos, Fiddlesticks, etc).
League of Legends but Kayn knows consent is important so he has to ask before he can ult.
League of Legends but it's just a series where you follow Darkkmane's guides
League of Legends but you use the time you have in Mordekaiser's Ult to try out pickup lines on the victim.
League of Legends but it's Avatar: The Last Airbender: Water (Nami, Pyke), Earth (Taliyah, Malphite, Rell, or Ornn), Fire (Brand, Annie, or Ornn), Air (Janna or Yasuo), and the Avatar (Qiyana, Udyr, Aphelios, or Elementalist Lux.)
Day 437
This video was less ross flexing and more his teamates flexing lmao
Ross greatest enemies are his followers. Because either they feed the hell out of the enemy team, or they destroy the enemy team.
Algebraically attempted Darius but the game is long enough to show off the build day 1
6:47 Darius is perfect for Ross - he can get the cannon even if he misses the cannon
Those first couple of games it wasn't mathematics involved in the win, it was normal darius at that point :D
yeah this is not how the game does math at all
Its a waste of pen
The moment I saw Black Cleaver and Lord Dom's together it made me go "This better not be called Mathematically correct"
Ross: i didnt realise his ulti was a leap
Ulti: Darius LEAPS into the air...
Sadly that's not how armor pen works
hemorrage is not triggering dark harvest if i remberd it correctly, when i tried to run this build back then when cleaver was giving 24% armor shred, also you can definitely see its still not working on 15:58 when koz has hemorrage stacks and is lower than 50% hp
also about darius ult countered with grounded, if you ult it counts as mid-air and doesnt give you invincibilty so with that being said yasuo can ult you while you casting your ult. No joking, it happened to me, i dont have any proofs but honest man says honest things, right?
When ross said he took a college course cause he did not know what to do..... Felt that too hard XD
Gangplank, but you build him like LeBlanc so he becomes GangBlanc
Day 368
explain
It aint happening dude
an entire year and 3 days, dedication right there
At this point... With over a year.... That so much commitment. Its gotta happen!
Day 5: Ross plays league but he buys his items when he's dead instead of waiting until he respawns
The return of peekaboo botlane, Ivern support, Rengar adc
Day 111
Hello Ross, i love your videos and creations first of all.
Will there be another Iron spectate or fail videos ?
"When faced with the slightest adversity, I gave up" If that doesn't sum up the player base for League I don't know what will lol.
16:19 great gamer moment
Mundo's Medical Team: Mundo Jungler, Singed top, Akali mid, Shen support and Kennen Adc (champions either have medical skins or has "medical" experience) . Ross plays as Mundo. Everyone then takes Moonstone Renewer and then cure the enemy patients of life. Day 105
You can get more armor pen by going divine sunderer. And I'm pretty sure armor pen works multiplicatively.
Saw someone think this worked on Wukong. For some reason they built lethality after reaching "100%" armorpen. At the very least this person recommended crit
Aphelios has ap scalings on all his abilities so you build full ap and confuse some people even more day 19
Blue Kayn but all movement speed because his E gives 80% when he ignores walls. Day 169
My guy, we believe
This is gonna happen
League of Legends but the entire team attempts to troll each other using champs like bard, anivia, tahm kench, etc
246 days of singed and Warwick botlane because a man just wants to play with his dog!
Darkkmane's AP Trundle
really fun build have oneshot a jhin before with elder
Only Ross can make winning look like losing
Day 85 of tutorial League of Legends: Go MF, Lux, Yi, Darius, & Ahri. Use the Arcane Comet rune page from the 1st stage. You choose the roles, but everyone runs Ghost/Heal. Buy only recommended items. Thornmail is required in honor of Thornmail Ashe.
Win or lose, say "Thanks for the tutorial"
They changed it this patch, Brand replaces Ahri in the tutorial and Seraphine replaces Brand in the free unlockable champions.
Orcboi is a true khazix main, he has to pentakill
YO ROSS IS A VALUE SELECT FAN!!! 10:12
My man busting out the powerpoint xD
8:54 how did I never notice that Ross is missing some teeth
Ross wears the costumes his mom gave him, because he appreciates the gift
Day 92
THEY SHOULDVE JUST GOTTEN GOOD
Orkboi was malding
Anyone else remember when you bought LDR on Darius with max e, the tooltip would say you had 70% armor pen? Lmao
Armor pen stacks like tenacity. Two sources of 30% armor pen is not 60% armor pen. It is 70% armor acknowledgement twice. It’s 49% because 0.70x0.70 = 0.49
The mord build was def the best one
Music at 7:35?
Darius is unironically your best champion
Day two of asking Ross to live his best life and to do what makes him happy.
Now this seems like a build for me
I think you could have run him down the first two engages that you had with ghost. little bit dicey on the first one but definitely the second.
Has he done a Janna Yasuo double tornado botlane yet
11:44 Wait, who is that wolf humping?
"kinda get good"
Ross FC: an entire team of football team skins. Maokai, Lee sin, ezreal, alistar, and You play as rammus. Day 35
Call them "The Glasgow Goalies"
Lucian has one too
Man, math is hard. This reminds me of warframe red crit chance. What the fuck even is it?
Anyways, great games, thanks for making me not depressed. Thank you so much.
Title idea: Mathematically Mystified Malzahar
Are we sure armor pen is additive percentage? Not, you know, multiplicative?
Everyone knows armor pen doesn't work like that... The dude who sent you his build should've known as well.
With lolsolved's calculator this would take less time.
Armor pen stacks multiplicatively and not additively
Listen up. Tryndamere but he's immortal forever:
Tryndamere top
Taric jungle
Kayle mid
Kindred adc
Zilean support
And you build guardian angel (obviously)
Have fun making your enemies go nuts :]
Should've saved "Day of Old" for a sett video.
Did no one learn anything from the prowler's claw pantheon build!? The whole point was that Percent pen doesn't stack well, which is why you build lethality on champs that have inherent percent pen
everyone turned into mathematicians in the comments
slightest adversity? the 2000s as young adult are horrid and demoralizing because there is an ongoing apocalypse, finding the risk reward evaluation on long term decisions difficult to morbidly frustrating is probably a sign of mental health
5 man Pentakill vs 5 man KDA to prove who is the better band. Day 63
Heimerdinger jungle because its just smart Shaco.
Week 69 (nice)
Grenade amumu but he’s a support and Kallista throws him. Day AlgebraicallyAttempted.
On hit Gragas since he drank all his barrels so now he only has a big belly, and they won’t expect the belly
(bonus if you only use his E)
Day 141
Incredible.
Yeah i already tried this apparently the cap on %armor pen is 49%
Hey, Ross, i did this in a random ass game and thought it was fuckin fun, Chemtank, Youmuu's, Deadman's, Swifties/Mobies, Cosmic Drive, Lich Bane, Sorc Pot on Rakan, can replace boots with an Aether Wisp and slap on Iron instead of Sorc
Not sure the math checks out but fun is fun
Buzzer Beater
İ got penta in aram with lethality/crit darius build
crit bar day 145 or something like that
Am I witnessing the OrkBoi villain arc in the last game or what?
hehe
Alright Ross, so you are having a stag party with the lads and decide to make a trip to Vegas to gamble and debauchery except you all don't actually like to gamble so you just stick to slot machines and spin to win
Just like the team comp you need to play with Darius Lillia Tryndamere Garen and Samira
Day 242, we passed over the 2/3 of a year fellas! Should be soon, since that is apparently how we gotta do it - Do maximum Movement speed Nocturne, because you can run from your nightmares, but they are faster than you. Especially if you are an ADC.
Day 213, hell yeyah over two centuries - Play with the following team of five: Annie, Ivern, Shaco, Yorick, + (optional 5th pick) Azir/Kindred/Kled and Skarl/Lulu and Pix/Malzahar/Neeko/Nunu and Willump/Quinn and Valor/Sejuani and Bristle - so that the match is a 10+ v 5.
This is not 100% armor pen because black clear reduces armor so matter what all you get is 70% armor pen and black clear just lowers armor
Ross
More Powerwash simulator
Huh. I thought % armor penetration stacked multiplicatively, not additively
It does indeed. Whoever thought of this clearly doesn't know
nom nom
Thumbs up if you miss rock,paper,scissors still great content though 👍
on hit perma shield rakan
rakan passive shield cd lowers 1s every time he aa a champion
at lvl 18 the normal cd is 15 seconds
nashors shield scaling and more shields
atk spd boots more atks more shield
shieldbow being unkillable
bork sustain and kite power to live till next shield
rageblade more damage
pd even more movement speed and atk spd
lethal tempo
overheal
tenacity
last stand
shield bash
revitalize
atk spd
adaptive
armor
League of legends but your team actually heals in team fights because everyone has a moonstone - day 206
Darius beats tryn, just don't let him stack crit
I think there's a limit of 58% To armor penetration...
riot told me gwen dealt damage based on her hp so i made gwen THICC. recommended build: Frostfire Gauntlet, Warmog's Armor, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Demonic Embrace, Gargoyle Stoneplate and Plate Steelcaps. day 180
3 games and none was top gap :(((
It doesn't stack. If you had pressed C at anytime you could have seen you had only 50ish % armor pen and cleaver applies after that so it takes only 30% of the remaining armor. I think lethality is more efficient at that point.
Orkboi: the new testo
these comments are doing too much for my ego
Full ocean team because you’re the ocean man and you’re leading them to the land that is the enemy nexus bonus points for staff of flowing water day 12
Full AP Galio because he's a giant hypocrite
Day 19
I mean it was an attempt after all, just in the title.
League of Legends but you don't play League of Legends, you play Valorant
Day 4
Catatouille: yuumi on adc but yuumi controls the adc. Tells them to do everything from movement, to attacks, to items. Day 15
If this Comment section says anything, No one wants to be the guy that says it aint 100%, but everyone is that guy.
you nedeed to play divine sunderer