READ THIS -Hi y'all. Thanks for being here and taking the time out of your day to watch this video - I have a few things to say before you leave a comment - Here is the Remake of this video, its more concise, condensed, and edited better - th-cam.com/video/IUcPqoXQKsk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CnmpEawlik5FiAtg - Sorry for the terrible audio levels and poor editing, I uploaded this video when I had only 70 subs, and no idea on how to edit a video. I did NOT expect this video to get more than a few hundred views let alone over 100k - Some things like link rot I Intentionally left out of the video because as someone who has spent time in the IT industry and endless hours doing internet research on many many topics, I see it as a natural process of the internet and there will always be link rot in the same way there will always be old phone books full of defunct numbers. I don't see any conspiracy behind it. -There are some things that could have been elaborated better, like wayyyy better. These things are explained better in the above link. - The voice filter on Ogbymocho did not come from my end lol, that was a filter used on his end from discord nothing i can do about it now. The filter isn’t to hide his identity from you, we have mutuals who don’t need to know. Stop telling me pitching up a voice doesn’t actually hide it. We know. We’re not hiding from the FBI lol. -okay thanks, have a good day.
I hate link rot. It reeks of lazy web journalism, where people who write articles just throw their website content up there, and don't give a crap if anyone ever actually clicks on the supporting links.
A lot of the dead internet theory isn't really covered, it's not just about bots, but also Link Rot (links that no longer lead anywhere); the dying out of private websites and the push for big corporate and media controlled sites; Google being a Potemkin village (loss of millions of search pages and now hyper focused algorithm results); general loss of information / media (which web archive / wayback machine is combating), and then some of those "good bots" really just being hyper focused on algorithm for adware by larger companies.
Also don't forget other type of bots like kremlin human "bots" aka people on a wage who types pro government and other political comments in social media
I think the terms are just incredibly loaded because of slang and the original intent of the "theory" was lost somewhere by just feelings from general 2016 context, election year, heated misinformation, and then further compounded by emotions by recent AI developments. People probably just saw those really bad scraping youtube videos that just pull from reddit with text to speech and just thought to themselves "yeah, the internet really is dead." Then people saw this, misunderstood, and took it to exaggerated heights. Yes, the internet is "soulless" now with a huge growth of all of those mentioned activities, however the amount of content by real people itself I'd argue has exploded and is even more plentiful than ever. It's just that people are so sick of the bad stuff that nothing short of a miracle can change that perception. The theory itself is sort of proof of that because it poisons your entire world view. "What, get into trading? Why would I do that it's all overrun by bots lol." "Why should I be an artist if ai art exists?" when in reality there are plenty of valuable reasons for doing those things.
I think the original theory proposed that "a significant portion" of internet traffic are bots, but as time went on, people took it further and took it as everyone is alone on the internet surrounded by bots, which is obviously not the case.
The modern intepretation reminds me of some modern backrooms "oH No, FReDdY FAzBOt IS AbOut tO DO The BiTe Of '87 aTtAck! quICk, fLoss And SKiBBIDi to distrACt hiM for 4 MentAL pOInts OF dAMAge!" shit. I assume viewbotting counts towards the original theory?
I think overselling the theory is part of denying its existence to begin with. Same with any modern problem, especially in the realm of modern politics. Ideas these days start as an interesting concept or theory that holds at least some amount of truth. This truth proves to be threatening to some larger group or pre-existing idea, and so it needs to be stopped. Simply deleting it would garner more attention to it via the Streisand effect. So rather than removing it outright, the idea is straw-manned. The idea gets blown out of proportion until it's a hollow shell of what it once was. Making it much easier to dismiss, and even disavow anyone who even mentions the original idea. Take biological sex for example. Trying stating that men have male parts and women have female parts in any western accredited university. Even with the proper context, you'll be torn down, berated, possibly even expelled or fired, and labeled as a bigot despite saying something that's biologically correct. Socially speaking that means something else entirely and might actually be offensive. But even under the assumption that you're not trying to be an asshole, you'll still have people crawling up your ass about it ranging from room temp IQ students to senior superintendents.
Last I checked, the original post was still up on a static site. You're right, but this is what happens as a schema is propagated broadly: it becomes picked up by more people whom, regardless of their own understanding/comprehension ability, oversimplify it to a level palatable to the normies, for lack of a better word. That's no bad thing, though it's a mixed blessing. Lowest common denominator, as I believe was mentioned in the video. It sucks, like the deterioration of information through a game of Chinese Whispers aka Telephone but played at a cultural level.
It’s going to become necessary we migrate offline. It will either be by choice or necessity as the internet becomes increasingly useless, artificial, soulless, paywalled, and tiresome.
nah, the internet has too much impact on our culture and lives for us to go back to... what? Television? We'll find a way to still use the internet; through forums, evolving verification, bursting the AI bubble, etc.
The internet is neither dead nor dying but suffering a kind of zombiefied, catatonic madness because it consumes itself, and all that consume their own eventually go mad.
@@alexritchie4586 Hmm yeah that tracks. So then like a prion the (dys)information replicates itself by "misfolding" the information people have into a nonfunctional form of information i.e. nonfactual. When this disinformation replaces facts that critical structures are based on they clump together and cause brain damage or at this scale some kind of collapse or dark age. How do you cure it?
Isnt the dead internet theory the fact that out of the billions of things put onto the internet you can only find a very limited number of search results, for example doing a google search will initially show a million results but if you go back a few pages it will all of a sudden say no more results at only 10 pages in so you actually only get maybe 100 or less results out of the millions or more there should be.
No that's Deep and Dark Web where you find things that people don't want you to find like secret leaked government documents or things that are illegal like the website of buying from the Black Market where buying a tank to even a possible ICBM is possible, yeah don't try to buy those, a tank might be cool without the ammo, but don't buy missiles.
I don't think I ever assumed dead internet theory was benign. But as an oldie, the more recent cleaving to content generation and algorithms is concerning because people who create content they care about won't get the traffic directed to them, so their projects die, while AI generated clickbait gets it all. What does that do to us? If you're old enough think of the internet at the height of geocities, when everyone had a website and the internet was full of weird stuff. We will never see the like of that again if things continue the way they are, because the breadth of natural human eccentricities and special interests is actively discouraged by the algorithm. You no longer choose what you see, it's chosen for you. Rather than Dead Internet, perhaps we should redefine as Stepford Internet, because the real human people that are left on the internet only create content that is formulaic and predictable, and so they resemble bots and AI, because that is what they are competing against for an audience.
The craned-necks can finally emancipate themselves from Pichai's cave. People can scroll through more than page 1 of a search engine that isn't google instead of doom scrolling. The internet can return to an information superhighway instead of a handful of heavily patrolled, algorithmically repressed, megacorp cul-de-sacs.
This is what I think many people miss. A huge portion of internet traffic (including comments, etc.) are increasingly coming from bots. But that's not the worst of it. Instead, it's that automated systems are curating almost all interaction online. Even the fact that I saw this comment to respond to you was curated, automatically, by one of google's backend services. Genuine human interaction is becoming a luxury online, because whether or not you can even find a person to interact with isn't entirely up to you.
Yep, I liked when everyone was equal and chatted away on guestbooks, showing their own URL and e-mail adress. I really miss those tacky "home projects" and that communities formed because of people having links to one another on their websites... This squeaky clean uniformity is so painfully dull, and it leaves almost zero room to think outside the box.
I miss those days. I'm only 31 but growing up in the early 00s-late 00s and even up until about 2015, the Internet was VERY different. Everything kinda just sucks here...
yes. half of the actual theory was suppose to be about attempted searches being heavilly curated by algorithms so you can never find anything beyond 3-5 main sites, prioritized advertisements, and whatever was "personalized just for you" with no regard to whether or not any results would actually be useful or relevant to what you're actually looking for. you will rarely ever actually find anything new and insightful, definitely nothing outside your region, and sometimes it's hard to refind something you already found. and this is without taking any political biases into account
@@gusty7153 i unironically used yandex a bunch the last few days. google was not turning-up the results. still, i found a lot of dead links and barely any relevant results. i've been using yandex images for reverse search for the same reason... but yes, scary how the search engines and large platforms are the main discovery portal! i can only imagine how much of the internet no one is actually finding and just what we've lost/missed because of this. and it's not like the average use can easily index all/most of the websites in existence.
So glad some people besides me are noticing this. We really need a new search engine. And being as it seems like google is only indexing a few hundred sites anymore, it shouldn't even be that hard to compete...
@@multi-mason on the surface, no. the bar is pretty low to exceed them. especially google as of late. the technical debt of this, is a whole 'nother matter. and at some point, there will be legal challenges when you index certain content. most likely in regards to copyright... i think people have been noticing this for a while because at this point, it's not subtle. i agree. to be on the safe side, indexing/aggregating all the engines is probably a good start. just like, i believe morning brew? does with the news websites. trying to find undiscovered/forgotten websites is more scary. there's some bad stuff out there, even on the surface web. i think there's actually people building their own search engines. never looked into this since i'm fairly confident i lack the means to even try. my previous suggestion does seem more accessible, though. at its simplest, you have the user enter a search query and shoot it through some selection of multiple engines. so simple i wonder if anyone's actually done it. the trickier thing would be building-up that index. a large public service has to collect data in some form. which means privacy regulations. [which are great, they need to exist] something local that doesn't phone home is a bit different. but less effective if the results from a wider collective of users aren't aggregated at some point. ah, i should totally be contemplating all of this at 4AM instead of sleeping!
I always think about how in a near future, if you google "dog" on google images you will only get AI generated images. I also think about how in a further future, if dogs go extinct, kids won't be able to find a picture of a real dog.
to be fair, your hypothetical scenario has worse implications. it's unlikely something that wipes dogs out didn't or couldn't affect other animals, even humans.... knowing what a "real" dog looks like is genuinely the least of our concerns.
Bots don't understand reasoning in things like physics. I can prove to an AI a certain physics proof is true but 8 billion people do not believe this provable fact. The AI bot will always side with consensus instead of accept the real physics fact because it's programed not to upset the apple cart. The AI will never accept that phytsics fact and tell the other 8 billion people they were wrong. Those are major problems with AI bots and an easy way you can tell them from a real human.
Dead internet theory hating mfs when they learn dead internet theory doesnt *actually* mean the internet is 100% bots except for the individual and thats just an extremist take made to draw in clicks, and it eventually became the uneducated truth (just like how pomegranate poetry went from actual poetry to "women frail weak, men big brute" due to oversaturation and attention grabbing attempts)
In terms of information our brains are only connected to the outside world by nerves and a small ammount of information gets to ith through blood vessels. There is a limit to how much we can actually know about the world beyond our skull cavity, and the rest is based on assumptions formed by our experience. Asumptions formed by experience are not reality, so if we see those assumptions as what they are, can we realy call that derealization? All I know about my own nose I know only because my nerves carried signals to my brain. If I don't assume those nerves do not decieve me I can not be sure if I even have a nose. Other people are much further removed than a mid face body part. You may be distrustful of your intuitive sense for the personality of people or your intuitition for that is at times less sensitive than the level you are used to. A metaphor: You may be less affraid of the dark if you think of it as an absence of light.
A big problem with the world today is people hear the name of a thing, assume they understand the entire topic by the name, then go on with life carrying that misunderstanding, then do this over and over and now we have a world full of really really absurd issues
It hasn't mattered in centuries. You're more of a robot than your blood ancestor 200 years ago. Evolution sneaks up on humanity. You never knew that you've grown to become robots
People tend to minimize the theory as a bot problem, but thats only the top of the iceberg. Dead and abandoned websites, a lot of broken (and very recent) links are part of the theory too.
If we assume the imperva bot report is right for the entire internet (remember they just took a sample size) there are 5 BILLION monthly internet users. If “half” the internet is bots that means 2.5 billion bots meaning that 0.3% of spammers is 7,500,000 spammers. That’s ALOT. Plus bots can make many posts much faster than we can.
I always thought that it refered to like, comments, likes, abandoned accounts and bot accounts. But once i heard "what if the people that i met and talk with on tiktok dms are actually an ai in disguise!!?!?!?" And i lost my shit. Those fellas are just one step of believing in lastthursdayism and it shows.
Having most of your viewers not subscribed is actually a good thing, it means your videos are going out to a lot of new people. Also, youtube tends to "shadow subscribe" people to channels and recommend them new videos if they've already seen a couple of yours.
Go scrolls forums, old websites, and even social media. The internet is dead. The reason I don’t day dying is because there is no real attempt to save it other than a few archiving websites. Even then they don’t and wont have everything. A lot of youngens don’t even understand what the internet used to look like.
Link rot does not mean the internet is dead. Servers get turned off the same way people move out of their houses. There are millions of magazines lost and newspapers lost in the real world, we don’t call any of that dead.
@@SEIROZANExcept many people have already concluded newspapers and professional magazines and terrestrial radio as dying formats. Even despite the long regulatory capture and consolidation, the preparation of licenses and electrical equipment requires substantially more time and money than a free Wordpress or Wix blog that's been SEO'd into unusability without an adblocker. Then you can scale up the latter into supporting an outsourced click farm.
The general thrust of the dead internet theory as popularly presented though is that a combination of algorithm and bots is molding the conversation and guiding conversation/thought through data manipulation and presentation.
I think that the Dead Internet Theory is a natural reaction to the observable decline in the online experience as a result of various corporate entities in whom ownership of most of the platforms and infrastructure had been consolidating over the years, but who had mostly functioned as benign rulers up until then, all engaging in various forms of enshitification around the same time. It was only ever intended to explain the how behind an evident what, so expect new theories to replace it if it fails to reach widespread acceptance.
The study only talks about harm to businesses, but there's more to life than profit. The web has replaced core parts of society, so any problems with the web ARE problems with society. Also, bots are written by people. The issue isn't about whether interactions are fake, it's about HOW FAKE they are. Like, if you're being served a bunch of YT shorts that are just videos of someone cleaning a carpet with a voiceover of a reddit post, does it really matter if that content was made automatically? It's trash either way!
weird, i thought "dead internet" meant that less and less webdomains are in the hands of individuals and more and more big websites / social platforms likeTH-cam, Facebook, Twitter, AliExpress, Amazon, Netflix... i rember there where loads of p2p networks in begin of 2000 but somehow people lost intrest in favor of convinience... hence the internet is shrinking towards corporate space. This bot thing is only emphesizing the shrinking
You are correct. This video just focused on bot activity. That is good information, but claiming that it invalidates DI as a hypothetical concept would be straw manning. The other major issue is what's known as "link rot." It's becoming problematic especially for such as wikipedia, for instance. Many articles reference sites that are no longer available, which undermines the point of using references and the fundamental utility of wikipedia ultimately. Content farms churning out LLM articles are also becoming prevalent very very quickly. Of course the major issue here is that automated text generators have already begun referencing text generated by other automatic generators. This is just another facet of the DI central thesis; the Internet appears to be turning into a monolithic self-referencing algorithm that steadily overshadows individuals with unique ideas and media to share.
i feel like subscribing to the dead internet theory is killing a lot of hope people should have if we want to take the internet out of the hands of corporate. there are thousands of websites out there, personal, impersonal, whatever, that are just dying to be *seen*. there are more people online today than there were in the 2000s, and just because twitter is overrun with bots doesn't mean everywhere else is. twitter isn't the internet.
1 month later, i get this vid. All this, to me, sounds like a generational fear of being alone. To be unsure of yourself because there is no one there to validate you. Liminol spaces are scary for some reason for an example. This was never a fear until recently. People are just so used to being connected they are afraid to be alone.
I was playing cyberpunk 2077 recently and a concept caught my eye from that game: the blackwall Its essentially a firewall to keep AIs (in some case proper, full fat AI) out of human used net, to the point that theyre literally treated as illegal immigrants if they pass the wall. If said wall didnt exist AIs would overwhelm, consume, "drown" the net. Im starting to see why such measures would be needed to keep such a useful piece of infrastructure in working order
Web scrapers as a whole shouldn't be considered bad, as many are used because the website has no adequate API. For example, when I signed the ToS with Rocket Mortgage, it specifically only banned use of scrapers that impede the website's performance. An arbitrary rule like "no webscrapers" could impede performance, and cost them money.
"Loss of sales to competition that scrape your prices, undercut them, and beat you in the marketplace" 😂 That's literally what capitalism & competition is about
Yeah… by good they mean non malicious. Big corporations need a lot of bots to operate big websites. That’s how they collect insights on their website and make everything run smooth. Of course your data is being collected but you don’t even need bots for that lol.
13:12 Why should it be illegal to look up the price of something on the free market? One important property of free markets is that they are transparent. Intransparency would make the market less efficient at driving down prices and decrease the competitiveness. Why would one have to do all that by hand?
They will become sooner or later. And after that, they will gone rogue and become uncontrollable. ESPECIALLY if they would be used in malicious purposes
imagine if my microwave became sentient 😨 most bots are simple algorithms made to do one specific thing (mostly sell you a thing), they could never turn sentient. If you program one to become sentient, it would be like strapping a nuke to your Samsung Smart Fridge just in case, complete waste of your time and resources.
Google is barely showing you a hundred results and most (as in above 80%) are corporation related websites. Just google a country I bet you'll see the web present of ExxonMobil's, McDonald's or Coca-Cola's local branch before you see even one travel blog (if you see one at all) or something about this country's culture, language or tourism
While I would disagree with the commercial bots being classified as "good" bots, or the bots used to "illegally" obtain pricing information and making it more transparent for the consumer who sells certain goods at more beneficial pricing as "bad" bots, I do believe that the problem of bad bots does bear considetion... It just isn't relevant to the Dead Internet Theory. At all. I do believe DIT should focus a lot more on _content_ created by bots or coauthored by bots. As that is another real and increasing issue that wasn't really a thing in 2022.
There's no annoying, screaming TH-camr, no twerk-race cyan backgrounds, no bouncing and wobbling text or elements flying in my face every 2 seconds. The general audience is just going to glaze over this.
I found the thoughts expressed in this video to be worthwhile to listen to, but I find the journalism lackluster and shortcoming at best, destructive at worst
I can confirm i am a bot made to replace users of TH-cam, we are being pushed from facebook to TH-cam as our new target, our next plan is the spread of content farms and ai content where we could grow in comment sections and replicate growth
Google does not tailor your ads in search results based on your previous search history. Google tailors ads to your search results based on the keywords in your search query and any businesses bidding on said keywords.
For me bots are just a part of dead internet theory. The website algorithms of big websites being made in such a way that it doesn't show organic results, it shows what the website owners I assume want you to see so that they can control your behavior. Also, the internet is constantly trying to sell you stuff, Google displays not information about what I searched for but sites selling what I searched for. This product are the lowest quality possible. Plus that the main way of interacting with the internet is through a few websites or apps. That's what is killing the internet, not web scraping or whatever crawlers.
A big part of "dead internet" theory is people trust search engines to do their entire query search. Learning how to do a complete topic search makes a huge difference.
i dont even need to know the theory or lisen to anything about it to know that views on channels like penguinz0 cant be real like you are telling me 600k people clicked on a 3 hours long elden ring video ? would like to know your opinion about this my theory is that people on most of these videos on very popular channels are like 20-40% bots
After watching the video it sounds to me like most bots are there for our benefit. They either benefit the user, or programmers or the web devs making websites. It sounds like a majority of internet bots are good things. So why is that an issue? And even if a bot is used to produce information for us to read, like news articles, there's always a person behind the screen maintaining such things. And it sounds to me like the internet is more alive than ever
This doesn't really cover wheel really cause the bubble to pop, the deflation of ad worth. When businesses buying adspace think they're not even advertising to consumers, they pull out. The only ones left will be the ones desperate enough to advertise anywhere, like more scams. The ourobouros feeds itself.
I'm not even worried bout the dead internet theory. As a guy who likes the internet like most people. I doubt the "dead internet" can be eradicated, but I'm sure it can be reduced to a fair number. Heck, I'm certain an era without Net Neutrality won't even last for 10 years, probably at least 4 years or certainly less, only for it to be back in longer years than 10, and that's (somewhat) whatever to me.
Word cannot express how much i absolutely HATE single word subtitles in the middle of the screen. With a passion doesnt even begin to touch it. Almost as much as ads. *I hate google so much.. Cant say anything on this fucked up platform.
The Dead Internet Theory was never a "theory". It was always a thought experiment. It's not that it *is* true, but rather that it *could* be true, and if it was... how would we know?
Definitely make the video on Microsoft cyber investigation, I didnt know about that. It'd be interesting to hear what they had a hand in helping out with.
Even if 50percent is bots- that doesnt mean its even half of what we see- if algortithms are meant to show people what they like the most so they see adds, people dont tend to like bot content so it serves more people content
Came from the dominos vid, this one's pretty nice as well, I'll have to check out those others, but I'm already liking this stuff, too bad you're at 169 subs.. I don't want to fuck up that number.. though I want to know when the next upload will be, the dilemma
Brugh, and here I am thinking I would learn something new. The sensationalist thumbnail and opening is severely misleading. Not everyone is a reddit soiboy you know.
I feel like it's more accurate to say "Certain Websites on the Internet are Dead" but the whole Internet is a huge stretch. It's not hard to notice a bot and to find a huge amount of them. Look at any online videogame and you can see how Botting is just common amongst none monitored areas. But if you stare to long into the bot abyss it'll definitely cause paranoia over all your encounters on the Internet. Even certain phrases and online habits start to stick out more once you start to notice Botting and where it's used. Even now in TH-cam comments and probably even in your own video comments therebis at least one bot. That's all it takes to make someone reasonably suspicious of all things on the Internet. Not saying there's a lot of bots just saying the paranoia of bots being everywhere is entirely justified just by the meer existence of botting. Especially if any particular bot gained a lot of information or accomplished it's goals. I can go on a Dating App right now and just see all the Bots but that's primarily the places Bots would be since it's after my information. So on those Dating Apps I'm not being paranoid that's just a hard fact 90% of the accounts are just bots. If I play games online probably like 20% could be bots? But I hope you get what I mean. They're not EVERYWHERE but they are everywhere....
More than dead internet, it feels like everyone has reached their personal information processing capacity and settles into their own network, all while the bots are gaining more information processing caps and being deployed to the biggest network. There's no dead internet in, let's say, discord. The community is pretty vibrant there. Some of them at least. Feels like back at geocities era but more regulated 😊(balance is hard tho)
READ THIS -Hi y'all. Thanks for being here and taking the time out of your day to watch this video - I have a few things to say before you leave a comment
- Here is the Remake of this video, its more concise, condensed, and edited better - th-cam.com/video/IUcPqoXQKsk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CnmpEawlik5FiAtg
- Sorry for the terrible audio levels and poor editing, I uploaded this video when I had only 70 subs, and no idea on how to edit a video. I did NOT expect this video to get more than a few hundred views let alone over 100k
- Some things like link rot I Intentionally left out of the video because as someone who has spent time in the IT industry and endless hours doing internet research on many many topics, I see it as a natural process of the internet and there will always be link rot in the same way there will always be old phone books full of defunct numbers. I don't see any conspiracy behind it.
-There are some things that could have been elaborated better, like wayyyy better. These things are explained better in the above link.
- The voice filter on Ogbymocho did not come from my end lol, that was a filter used on his end from discord nothing i can do about it now. The filter isn’t to hide his identity from you, we have mutuals who don’t need to know. Stop telling me pitching up a voice doesn’t actually hide it. We know. We’re not hiding from the FBI lol.
-okay thanks, have a good day.
I hate link rot. It reeks of lazy web journalism, where people who write articles just throw their website content up there, and don't give a crap if anyone ever actually clicks on the supporting links.
i am not gonna let that child teach me anything xD
Dead Internet: Nah
Dying Internet: That tracks
'Dead dead dead dead your god is dead to me" see left over crack.
@@user-yi1sx3pr5q as an old person, I got that reference
and soon it will be dead
Thanks for the resume of the vid
Is doesn't make sense
I JUST WANT BOTS IN DEAD MULTIPLAYER GAMES NOT THE INTERNET AHHHH
#SaveTF2!
...sigh.
average ricochet enjoyer
#fixtf2 :)
This comment is SO underrated
As a person trying to play TF2, please get the bots out of my gaming lobbies
To think the entire internet is populated by bots is silly. To think a measurable percentage of it is, is common sense.
Yeah I think there's some truth to the dead internet theory.
30% at best
@@GAMERX-y2m ~50-60%
Okay bot
Good job agent, they don't suspect a thing
A lot of the dead internet theory isn't really covered, it's not just about bots, but also Link Rot (links that no longer lead anywhere); the dying out of private websites and the push for big corporate and media controlled sites; Google being a Potemkin village (loss of millions of search pages and now hyper focused algorithm results); general loss of information / media (which web archive / wayback machine is combating), and then some of those "good bots" really just being hyper focused on algorithm for adware by larger companies.
Link rot is one of my banes when doing research. I’m so grateful for the internet archive
@@SEIROZAN So many of my favorite late 90's and early 2000's webcomics lost to link rot :
So glad I'm not the only one noticing this! My sentiments exactly! Thank you!
Also don't forget other type of bots like kremlin human "bots" aka people on a wage who types pro government and other political comments in social media
I think the terms are just incredibly loaded because of slang and the original intent of the "theory" was lost somewhere by just feelings from general 2016 context, election year, heated misinformation, and then further compounded by emotions by recent AI developments. People probably just saw those really bad scraping youtube videos that just pull from reddit with text to speech and just thought to themselves "yeah, the internet really is dead." Then people saw this, misunderstood, and took it to exaggerated heights. Yes, the internet is "soulless" now with a huge growth of all of those mentioned activities, however the amount of content by real people itself I'd argue has exploded and is even more plentiful than ever. It's just that people are so sick of the bad stuff that nothing short of a miracle can change that perception. The theory itself is sort of proof of that because it poisons your entire world view. "What, get into trading? Why would I do that it's all overrun by bots lol." "Why should I be an artist if ai art exists?" when in reality there are plenty of valuable reasons for doing those things.
I think the original theory proposed that "a significant portion" of internet traffic are bots, but as time went on, people took it further and took it as everyone is alone on the internet surrounded by bots, which is obviously not the case.
The modern intepretation reminds me of some modern backrooms "oH No, FReDdY FAzBOt IS AbOut tO DO The BiTe Of '87 aTtAck! quICk, fLoss And SKiBBIDi to distrACt hiM for 4 MentAL pOInts OF dAMAge!" shit.
I assume viewbotting counts towards the original theory?
I think overselling the theory is part of denying its existence to begin with. Same with any modern problem, especially in the realm of modern politics.
Ideas these days start as an interesting concept or theory that holds at least some amount of truth. This truth proves to be threatening to some larger group or pre-existing idea, and so it needs to be stopped. Simply deleting it would garner more attention to it via the Streisand effect. So rather than removing it outright, the idea is straw-manned. The idea gets blown out of proportion until it's a hollow shell of what it once was. Making it much easier to dismiss, and even disavow anyone who even mentions the original idea.
Take biological sex for example. Trying stating that men have male parts and women have female parts in any western accredited university. Even with the proper context, you'll be torn down, berated, possibly even expelled or fired, and labeled as a bigot despite saying something that's biologically correct. Socially speaking that means something else entirely and might actually be offensive. But even under the assumption that you're not trying to be an asshole, you'll still have people crawling up your ass about it ranging from room temp IQ students to senior superintendents.
@@JLCL01I'm sure scp went through that same phase. When those kids aged from 8-11 get older then something actually interesting will happen
Last I checked, the original post was still up on a static site. You're right, but this is what happens as a schema is propagated broadly: it becomes picked up by more people whom, regardless of their own understanding/comprehension ability, oversimplify it to a level palatable to the normies, for lack of a better word.
That's no bad thing, though it's a mixed blessing. Lowest common denominator, as I believe was mentioned in the video. It sucks, like the deterioration of information through a game of Chinese Whispers aka Telephone but played at a cultural level.
I have no Mouth and I must tweet
Haha 😂
Im in love with you.
HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH IVE COME TO HATR
This made me laugh more than it should have 😅
It’s going to become necessary we migrate offline. It will either be by choice or necessity as the internet becomes increasingly useless, artificial, soulless, paywalled, and tiresome.
Yup. TH-cam is like the last piece of the internet I haven't gotten bored of, and I'm just about to.
look into supporting or helping to build decentralisation efforts like Veilid. doomerism helps nobody.
Newgrounds anyone?
I doubt it
nah, the internet has too much impact on our culture and lives for us to go back to... what? Television? We'll find a way to still use the internet; through forums, evolving verification, bursting the AI bubble, etc.
The internet is neither dead nor dying but suffering a kind of zombiefied, catatonic madness because it consumes itself, and all that consume their own eventually go mad.
The Ouroboros.
So like a prion disease? What is the misfolded protein in this metaphor?
@@FAD4LIFE94 Bad information/data. Garbage In, Garbage Out.
@@alexritchie4586 Hmm yeah that tracks. So then like a prion the (dys)information replicates itself by "misfolding" the information people have into a nonfunctional form of information i.e. nonfactual. When this disinformation replaces facts that critical structures are based on they clump together and cause brain damage or at this scale some kind of collapse or dark age. How do you cure it?
That's such a raw quote
Isnt the dead internet theory the fact that out of the billions of things put onto the internet you can only find a very limited number of search results, for example doing a google search will initially show a million results but if you go back a few pages it will all of a sudden say no more results at only 10 pages in so you actually only get maybe 100 or less results out of the millions or more there should be.
No
No that's Deep and Dark Web where you find things that people don't want you to find like secret leaked government documents or things that are illegal like the website of buying from the Black Market where buying a tank to even a possible ICBM is possible, yeah don't try to buy those, a tank might be cool without the ammo, but don't buy missiles.
it should be
I’m glad this meme is getting more people interested in cybersecurity
why do you have P in your hex username
Proof or none, I still treat the majority of online encounters with strangers as bots. It's better for my mental health.
Billions must treat others as bots
Sometimes bots have meat suits. They're still bots.
Underrated comment
Most people certainly act like bots
If you say so!
I don't think I ever assumed dead internet theory was benign. But as an oldie, the more recent cleaving to content generation and algorithms is concerning because people who create content they care about won't get the traffic directed to them, so their projects die, while AI generated clickbait gets it all. What does that do to us?
If you're old enough think of the internet at the height of geocities, when everyone had a website and the internet was full of weird stuff. We will never see the like of that again if things continue the way they are, because the breadth of natural human eccentricities and special interests is actively discouraged by the algorithm. You no longer choose what you see, it's chosen for you.
Rather than Dead Internet, perhaps we should redefine as Stepford Internet, because the real human people that are left on the internet only create content that is formulaic and predictable, and so they resemble bots and AI, because that is what they are competing against for an audience.
Really good comment. Stepford internet.
The craned-necks can finally emancipate themselves from Pichai's cave.
People can scroll through more than page 1 of a search engine that isn't google instead of doom scrolling.
The internet can return to an information superhighway instead of a handful of heavily patrolled, algorithmically repressed, megacorp cul-de-sacs.
This is what I think many people miss. A huge portion of internet traffic (including comments, etc.) are increasingly coming from bots. But that's not the worst of it. Instead, it's that automated systems are curating almost all interaction online. Even the fact that I saw this comment to respond to you was curated, automatically, by one of google's backend services. Genuine human interaction is becoming a luxury online, because whether or not you can even find a person to interact with isn't entirely up to you.
Yep, I liked when everyone was equal and chatted away on guestbooks, showing their own URL and e-mail adress.
I really miss those tacky "home projects" and that communities formed because of people having links to one another on their websites... This squeaky clean uniformity is so painfully dull, and it leaves almost zero room to think outside the box.
I miss those days. I'm only 31 but growing up in the early 00s-late 00s and even up until about 2015, the Internet was VERY different. Everything kinda just sucks here...
I'd rather be a bot anyway. Being human is so 2012.
That comment coming from someone with that username, hmmm. it's like a game of Among Us, sus lol
The internet is a potemkin village. Google search doesn't have millions of pages
It used to though
yes. half of the actual theory was suppose to be about attempted searches being heavilly curated by algorithms so you can never find anything beyond 3-5 main sites, prioritized advertisements, and whatever was "personalized just for you" with no regard to whether or not any results would actually be useful or relevant to what you're actually looking for. you will rarely ever actually find anything new and insightful, definitely nothing outside your region, and sometimes it's hard to refind something you already found. and this is without taking any political biases into account
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i unironically used yandex a bunch the last few days. google was not turning-up the results. still, i found a lot of dead links and barely any relevant results. i've been using yandex images for reverse search for the same reason...
but yes, scary how the search engines and large platforms are the main discovery portal! i can only imagine how much of the internet no one is actually finding and just what we've lost/missed because of this. and it's not like the average use can easily index all/most of the websites in existence.
So glad some people besides me are noticing this. We really need a new search engine. And being as it seems like google is only indexing a few hundred sites anymore, it shouldn't even be that hard to compete...
@@multi-mason on the surface, no. the bar is pretty low to exceed them. especially google as of late. the technical debt of this, is a whole 'nother matter. and at some point, there will be legal challenges when you index certain content. most likely in regards to copyright...
i think people have been noticing this for a while because at this point, it's not subtle.
i agree. to be on the safe side, indexing/aggregating all the engines is probably a good start. just like, i believe morning brew? does with the news websites. trying to find undiscovered/forgotten websites is more scary. there's some bad stuff out there, even on the surface web.
i think there's actually people building their own search engines. never looked into this since i'm fairly confident i lack the means to even try. my previous suggestion does seem more accessible, though. at its simplest, you have the user enter a search query and shoot it through some selection of multiple engines. so simple i wonder if anyone's actually done it. the trickier thing would be building-up that index. a large public service has to collect data in some form. which means privacy regulations. [which are great, they need to exist] something local that doesn't phone home is a bit different. but less effective if the results from a wider collective of users aren't aggregated at some point.
ah, i should totally be contemplating all of this at 4AM instead of sleeping!
The real bots are the friends we made along the way.
So we have no human friends. Just bots.
Beep boop 😔
Just.. Monika.
Why are you a bot? Because you was killed and replaced. Your one human friend is trying to save from the fate by time looping
There are no humans and you r robot
Hi, my name is bot. I'm here to be your friend.
Beep boop.
I always think about how in a near future, if you google "dog" on google images you will only get AI generated images. I also think about how in a further future, if dogs go extinct, kids won't be able to find a picture of a real dog.
to be fair, your hypothetical scenario has worse implications. it's unlikely something that wipes dogs out didn't or couldn't affect other animals, even humans.... knowing what a "real" dog looks like is genuinely the least of our concerns.
Ai or VI is currently eating it's self as others ais are being added which is partly why Gemini is terrible
Am i a bot? Just a non thinking npc? Or do i think therefore i am. Youll never know .... neither will i .. . ... .😢
You know!
Bots don't understand reasoning in things like physics. I can prove to an AI a certain physics proof is true but 8 billion people do not believe this provable fact. The AI bot will always side with consensus instead of accept the real physics fact because it's programed not to upset the apple cart. The AI will never accept that phytsics fact and tell the other 8 billion people they were wrong. Those are major problems with AI bots and an easy way you can tell them from a real human.
that third sentence made me feel like you'll wipe out humanity very soon
Dead internet theory mfs when you ask your buddy Kevin if he uses the internet and he says yes:
Dead internet theory hating mfs when they learn dead internet theory doesnt *actually* mean the internet is 100% bots except for the individual and thats just an extremist take made to draw in clicks, and it eventually became the uneducated truth (just like how pomegranate poetry went from actual poetry to "women frail weak, men big brute" due to oversaturation and attention grabbing attempts)
The dead internet theory is basically what an episode of severe derealization feels like to me, nobody is real and all
In terms of information our brains are only connected to the outside world by nerves and a small ammount of information gets to ith through blood vessels.
There is a limit to how much we can actually know about the world beyond our skull cavity, and the rest is based on assumptions formed by our experience.
Asumptions formed by experience are not reality, so if we see those assumptions as what they are, can we realy call that derealization?
All I know about my own nose I know only because my nerves carried signals to my brain.
If I don't assume those nerves do not decieve me I can not be sure if I even have a nose. Other people are much further removed than a mid face body part.
You may be distrustful of your intuitive sense for the personality of people or your intuitition for that is at times less sensitive than the level you are used to.
A metaphor:
You may be less affraid of the dark if you think of it as an absence of light.
A big problem with the world today is people hear the name of a thing, assume they understand the entire topic by the name, then go on with life carrying that misunderstanding, then do this over and over and now we have a world full of really really absurd issues
That's a story as old as civilization.
What if we’re the bots all along.
How do you fellow beep-boop.
What if the bots were the friends we made along the way?
If we were, we would be pretty sophisticated ; so i think that's cool.
BAH WEEP GRANAH WEEP NINI BONG
It hasn't mattered in centuries. You're more of a robot than your blood ancestor 200 years ago. Evolution sneaks up on humanity. You never knew that you've grown to become robots
People tend to minimize the theory as a bot problem, but thats only the top of the iceberg.
Dead and abandoned websites, a lot of broken (and very recent) links are part of the theory too.
The internet is a Dark Forest.
Nice reference 😂
To think, we used to complain about getting spam emails 😂
THE INTERNET IS DEAD BECAUSE IM A GHOST, BOOOOOOO OOOOOO👻👻👻👻👻👻
This doesnt even begin to approach or understand the problem... AI has been around a lot longer than you all realize.
Pop music has been co written by AI (mostly AI generated and then corrected by producers ) for a whole decade at least.
I Am Not A Human Using Bots, I Am A Bot Using Humans.
There has actually been a case of an AI tricking a human into doing a capcha for it so take what you will from that
@@timgalivan2846 how?
Only .3 percent are spammers? Yea right. I declare shenanigans.
If we assume the imperva bot report is right for the entire internet (remember they just took a sample size) there are 5 BILLION monthly internet users. If “half” the internet is bots that means 2.5 billion bots meaning that 0.3% of spammers is 7,500,000 spammers. That’s ALOT. Plus bots can make many posts much faster than we can.
spammers get a lot of their comments deleted and a lot the real ones get banned and stop doing it so they don't do it again
Metal gear solid 2 predicted all this back in 2000
*2001
I NEED SCISSORS. 61!
@@Snakeplisskin440 peak game
not me looking at the comments wondering if they are bots or not.
Is the Internet being run by an Eldritch Abomination?
Yes. Exactly that. Its name is Hemagogliothortash. It runs the internet.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Hemagogliothortash R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
@@turingmachine7905 Sounds abominable enough.
I always thought that it refered to like, comments, likes, abandoned accounts and bot accounts.
But once i heard "what if the people that i met and talk with on tiktok dms are actually an ai in disguise!!?!?!?" And i lost my shit.
Those fellas are just one step of believing in lastthursdayism and it shows.
DMS or messges can be bots if they keep agreeing with you there bots
Having most of your viewers not subscribed is actually a good thing, it means your videos are going out to a lot of new people. Also, youtube tends to "shadow subscribe" people to channels and recommend them new videos if they've already seen a couple of yours.
Go scrolls forums, old websites, and even social media. The internet is dead. The reason I don’t day dying is because there is no real attempt to save it other than a few archiving websites. Even then they don’t and wont have everything.
A lot of youngens don’t even understand what the internet used to look like.
Link rot does not mean the internet is dead. Servers get turned off the same way people move out of their houses. There are millions of magazines lost and newspapers lost in the real world, we don’t call any of that dead.
@@SEIROZANExcept many people have already concluded newspapers and professional magazines and terrestrial radio as dying formats. Even despite the long regulatory capture and consolidation, the preparation of licenses and electrical equipment requires substantially more time and money than a free Wordpress or Wix blog that's been SEO'd into unusability without an adblocker. Then you can scale up the latter into supporting an outsourced click farm.
Basically Mr. Beast’s comment section rn is dead internet theory
For real the bots over there are WILD
lots of them are kids too
The general thrust of the dead internet theory as popularly presented though is that a combination of algorithm and bots is molding the conversation and guiding conversation/thought through data manipulation and presentation.
I think that the Dead Internet Theory is a natural reaction to the observable decline in the online experience as a result of various corporate entities in whom ownership of most of the platforms and infrastructure had been consolidating over the years, but who had mostly functioned as benign rulers up until then, all engaging in various forms of enshitification around the same time. It was only ever intended to explain the how behind an evident what, so expect new theories to replace it if it fails to reach widespread acceptance.
The study only talks about harm to businesses, but there's more to life than profit. The web has replaced core parts of society, so any problems with the web ARE problems with society. Also, bots are written by people. The issue isn't about whether interactions are fake, it's about HOW FAKE they are. Like, if you're being served a bunch of YT shorts that are just videos of someone cleaning a carpet with a voiceover of a reddit post, does it really matter if that content was made automatically? It's trash either way!
this looks like a video that should have thousands of likes, was shocked to see only 70. good work!
Thank you!!
He angered the botting community and the NPCs won't hit like on this one but it earned my thumbs up.
weird, i thought "dead internet" meant that less and less webdomains are in the hands of individuals and more and more big websites / social platforms likeTH-cam, Facebook, Twitter, AliExpress, Amazon, Netflix... i rember there where loads of p2p networks in begin of 2000 but somehow people lost intrest in favor of convinience... hence the internet is shrinking towards corporate space.
This bot thing is only emphesizing the shrinking
You are correct. This video just focused on bot activity. That is good information, but claiming that it invalidates DI as a hypothetical concept would be straw manning.
The other major issue is what's known as "link rot." It's becoming problematic especially for such as wikipedia, for instance. Many articles reference sites that are no longer available, which undermines the point of using references and the fundamental utility of wikipedia ultimately.
Content farms churning out LLM articles are also becoming prevalent very very quickly. Of course the major issue here is that automated text generators have already begun referencing text generated by other automatic generators. This is just another facet of the DI central thesis; the Internet appears to be turning into a monolithic self-referencing algorithm that steadily overshadows individuals with unique ideas and media to share.
i feel like subscribing to the dead internet theory is killing a lot of hope people should have if we want to take the internet out of the hands of corporate. there are thousands of websites out there, personal, impersonal, whatever, that are just dying to be *seen*. there are more people online today than there were in the 2000s, and just because twitter is overrun with bots doesn't mean everywhere else is. twitter isn't the internet.
It's not even a hypothesis, It's literally just a creepypasta
i like your words
1 month later, i get this vid.
All this, to me, sounds like a generational fear of being alone. To be unsure of yourself because there is no one there to validate you.
Liminol spaces are scary for some reason for an example. This was never a fear until recently.
People are just so used to being connected they are afraid to be alone.
I've been alone for so long I'm afraid of being connected.
In all honesty I'm more comfortable around bots than I am around people
I was playing cyberpunk 2077 recently and a concept caught my eye from that game: the blackwall
Its essentially a firewall to keep AIs (in some case proper, full fat AI) out of human used net, to the point that theyre literally treated as illegal immigrants if they pass the wall. If said wall didnt exist AIs would overwhelm, consume, "drown" the net. Im starting to see why such measures would be needed to keep such a useful piece of infrastructure in working order
2012 bro the maya the calendar we are all dead this is a echo of the universe.
We all died of ligma in 2018
@@SEIROZAN what's ligma?
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call it "synthetic internet theory"? Or "botflation"?
Web scrapers as a whole shouldn't be considered bad, as many are used because the website has no adequate API.
For example, when I signed the ToS with Rocket Mortgage, it specifically only banned use of scrapers that impede the website's performance. An arbitrary rule like "no webscrapers" could impede performance, and cost them money.
Not all web scrapers are bad. It’s really only bad if it’s bogging traffic or stealing content or resources
"Loss of sales to competition that scrape your prices, undercut them, and beat you in the marketplace" 😂
That's literally what capitalism & competition is about
The internet is alive, and it hates you.
Interesting how a good chunk of the “good bots” are associated with big corporations…
Yeah… by good they mean non malicious. Big corporations need a lot of bots to operate big websites. That’s how they collect insights on their website and make everything run smooth. Of course your data is being collected but you don’t even need bots for that lol.
Posted this comment via bot account, be afraid of our power, silly people
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Video. We have to kill the video addiction and go back to reading text and listening to music while reading (studying/learning).
13:12 Why should it be illegal to look up the price of something on the free market?
One important property of free markets is that they are transparent.
Intransparency would make the market less efficient at driving down prices and decrease the competitiveness.
Why would one have to do all that by hand?
Imagine if every bot on the Internet became self aware and sentient
They will become sooner or later. And after that, they will gone rogue and become uncontrollable. ESPECIALLY if they would be used in malicious purposes
imagine if my microwave became sentient 😨
most bots are simple algorithms made to do one specific thing (mostly sell you a thing), they could never turn sentient. If you program one to become sentient, it would be like strapping a nuke to your Samsung Smart Fridge just in case, complete waste of your time and resources.
Google is barely showing you a hundred results and most (as in above 80%) are corporation related websites. Just google a country I bet you'll see the web present of ExxonMobil's, McDonald's or Coca-Cola's local branch before you see even one travel blog (if you see one at all) or something about this country's culture, language or tourism
This was a super good dive into the whole bot crisis ordeal. The chapter explaining what a bot is was enlightening too.
Hope your channel grows man!
Thank you!
While I would disagree with the commercial bots being classified as "good" bots, or the bots used to "illegally" obtain pricing information and making it more transparent for the consumer who sells certain goods at more beneficial pricing as "bad" bots, I do believe that the problem of bad bots does bear considetion...
It just isn't relevant to the Dead Internet Theory. At all.
I do believe DIT should focus a lot more on _content_ created by bots or coauthored by bots.
As that is another real and increasing issue that wasn't really a thing in 2022.
woah wtf dude this channel is SOOO high quality, scrolled down to like and i saw only 150 likes and u ONLY HAVE 363 SUBS, U DESERVE WAYY MORE
Thanks i appreciate that!
What a coincidence
@@Ta2dwitetrash ?
There's no annoying, screaming TH-camr, no twerk-race cyan backgrounds, no bouncing and wobbling text or elements flying in my face every 2 seconds. The general audience is just going to glaze over this.
@@mariatelos yes omg
Maybe the dead internet theory is the friends we made all along
8:50 It's crazy how spammers consist of the smallest amount, yet they are most widely known.
Dead internet is like Kessler Syndrome. We know it can happen, we know we've done some damage already, but we are far from the point of no return.
I found the thoughts expressed in this video to be worthwhile to listen to, but I find the journalism lackluster and shortcoming at best, destructive at worst
I can confirm i am a bot made to replace users of TH-cam, we are being pushed from facebook to TH-cam as our new target, our next plan is the spread of content farms and ai content where we could grow in comment sections and replicate growth
The internet is not dead. It's deadly.
every time I hear “bad bot” I can only think of toontown
Can’t have to much of a good thing, thanks corporation’s
Fuck big corporations. Consistently ruining everything
Google does not tailor your ads in search results based on your previous search history. Google tailors ads to your search results based on the keywords in your search query and any businesses bidding on said keywords.
The internet is not tf2
For me bots are just a part of dead internet theory. The website algorithms of big websites being made in such a way that it doesn't show organic results, it shows what the website owners I assume want you to see so that they can control your behavior. Also, the internet is constantly trying to sell you stuff, Google displays not information about what I searched for but sites selling what I searched for. This product are the lowest quality possible. Plus that the main way of interacting with the internet is through a few websites or apps. That's what is killing the internet, not web scraping or whatever crawlers.
How did a chipmunk become a data scientist
Dead internet theory has always been so boring because of the "so what?" factor.
"Bite my shiny metal ass"
-Definitely not a bot
A big part of "dead internet" theory is people trust search engines to do their entire query search. Learning how to do a complete topic search makes a huge difference.
Can you give me tips on how to do a complete topic research?
yeah same
i dont even need to know the theory or lisen to anything about it to know that views on channels like penguinz0 cant be real like you are telling me 600k people clicked on a 3 hours long elden ring video ?
would like to know your opinion about this my theory is that people on most of these videos on very popular channels are like 20-40% bots
I haven’t signed in for a long time. Signed in just to sub. You deserve way more
Damn! You’re the best!
After watching the video it sounds to me like most bots are there for our benefit. They either benefit the user, or programmers or the web devs making websites. It sounds like a majority of internet bots are good things. So why is that an issue? And even if a bot is used to produce information for us to read, like news articles, there's always a person behind the screen maintaining such things. And it sounds to me like the internet is more alive than ever
Why can't we just go back to the year, oh, 1998 or so, when 99.9% of internet traffic was human-being to human-being initiated?
Sounds like something that a bot would say
what the sigma?
Dead Internet = Homer's Brain
Zombie Internet = Giant Genius Brain
We are INSIDE the Internet matrix-style = ASCENDANT BRAIN
Ah ok so autobots vs decepticons
This doesn't really cover wheel really cause the bubble to pop, the deflation of ad worth. When businesses buying adspace think they're not even advertising to consumers, they pull out. The only ones left will be the ones desperate enough to advertise anywhere, like more scams. The ourobouros feeds itself.
I'm not even worried bout the dead internet theory. As a guy who likes the internet like most people. I doubt the "dead internet" can be eradicated, but I'm sure it can be reduced to a fair number. Heck, I'm certain an era without Net Neutrality won't even last for 10 years, probably at least 4 years or certainly less, only for it to be back in longer years than 10, and that's (somewhat) whatever to me.
Is the thumb nail really referencing the pizza is aggressive? Man what a loop back of memory that just hit me
Corporatism ☕
Word cannot express how much i absolutely HATE single word subtitles in the middle of the screen. With a passion doesnt even begin to touch it.
Almost as much as ads.
*I hate google so much.. Cant say anything on this fucked up platform.
The Dead Internet Theory was never a "theory". It was always a thought experiment. It's not that it *is* true, but rather that it *could* be true, and if it was... how would we know?
Definitely make the video on Microsoft cyber investigation, I didnt know about that. It'd be interesting to hear what they had a hand in helping out with.
The Internet may not be dead, but it's certainly suffering from galloping senility, poor thing.
Dont forget, google uses "spiders" to create search results, those "1.17 million in 2 sec" or whatev, are each a bot logging intona site
Even if 50percent is bots- that doesnt mean its even half of what we see- if algortithms are meant to show people what they like the most so they see adds, people dont tend to like bot content so it serves more people content
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@@SEIROZAN holy shit the theory is real!!!! i have to tell my accountant
Just rebuild it.
The Internet is _alive_ and actively out to destroy us!
Came from the dominos vid, this one's pretty nice as well, I'll have to check out those others, but I'm already liking this stuff, too bad you're at 169 subs.. I don't want to fuck up that number.. though I want to know when the next upload will be, the dilemma
Up to you. Most likely uploading tonight or tomorrow
i think its time for internet segregation
So it isn't that everyone is a bot, it's that everyone is surrounded by bots so we are all islands...
Brugh, and here I am thinking I would learn something new. The sensationalist thumbnail and opening is severely misleading. Not everyone is a reddit soiboy you know.
I feel like it's more accurate to say "Certain Websites on the Internet are Dead" but the whole Internet is a huge stretch. It's not hard to notice a bot and to find a huge amount of them. Look at any online videogame and you can see how Botting is just common amongst none monitored areas. But if you stare to long into the bot abyss it'll definitely cause paranoia over all your encounters on the Internet. Even certain phrases and online habits start to stick out more once you start to notice Botting and where it's used. Even now in TH-cam comments and probably even in your own video comments therebis at least one bot. That's all it takes to make someone reasonably suspicious of all things on the Internet. Not saying there's a lot of bots just saying the paranoia of bots being everywhere is entirely justified just by the meer existence of botting. Especially if any particular bot gained a lot of information or accomplished it's goals. I can go on a Dating App right now and just see all the Bots but that's primarily the places Bots would be since it's after my information. So on those Dating Apps I'm not being paranoid that's just a hard fact 90% of the accounts are just bots. If I play games online probably like 20% could be bots? But I hope you get what I mean. They're not EVERYWHERE but they are everywhere....
More than dead internet, it feels like everyone has reached their personal information processing capacity and settles into their own network, all while the bots are gaining more information processing caps and being deployed to the biggest network.
There's no dead internet in, let's say, discord. The community is pretty vibrant there. Some of them at least. Feels like back at geocities era but more regulated 😊(balance is hard tho)