Ferrari did pretty much forget seb in 2020 which did an absolute number on his confidence. Some of the team radio where Vettel was also basically being his own strategist was just embarrassing for such a big team
Was that the race where Seb was trying to talk to his engineer/strategist and wasn't getting a response? If it is I think Seb was ignored a couple of times before the guy finally got back to him, and everyone watching on race on TV got to hear the whole thing 🤣, at which point it was probably to late to discuss whatever it was Seb wanted to talk about anyway. If people think all it was was embarrassing for them, I know that's not what you said, then Ferrari got off way to easy because it was a lot more than just embarrassing.
@@AdityaSingh-rp4mt And the thing is, he was able to stay ahead of a Red Bull (although it was the Red Bull of Albon, but that doesn't change much). P.S he was on softs that were literally used, Idk how Vettel saved the tires as much as he did
@@darkox4172 He still has those moments of brilliance that remind you of what sort of driver he was, but they're so few and far between now that it makes you wonder if it isn't time to retire yet. Honestly i wouldn't like him to become the next Kimi, but oh well, like Kimi, if he's ok with that then whatever.
7 World Titles combined with Nando, Kimi and Seb. I mean, the hybrid era for Ferrari has been so far a fiasco. Not because of the drivers but that car. Except perhaps the 2018 (I believe it was) when Seb made many mistakes and the car was competitive.
@@javiersanz29 2017 was probably the best package ferrari ever had. sure the 2018 car had more speed and a bit more reliability but it handled a lot worse. besides, merc just pulled away at the second half anyways
Ferrari has a pretty long history of kicking out great drivers. I think we need a conspiracy episode on Ferrari forcing Schumacher's hand in his retirement.
By the time Ferrari let Vettel go he was not a great driver by any means, he was spinning often and had crashed into his teammate in the penultimate race. They 100% did the right thing I don't know how they're being vilified for that
In my opinion, when Ross led Ferrari F1, they listened to their drivers. Both Alonso and Vettel did not receive the same respect from their management during their stints.
Yeah and it seems like this might have changed a bit since Sainz is well known for working close with the engineers and everyone and working on the setup of the car and very long hours. I really hope Seb releases a book about how Ferrari killed his life joy for these years.
Their pitstops for Seb were definitely atrocious and sabotage worthy, but I don't think they purposedly sabotaged his car, and it was a knock-on effect of making the car more power dependent then aero dependent. Because Seb's problems started in 2018 when Charles was still at Sauber. Seb looks like a driver who is more comfortable in a downforce heavy car, which is the reason his worst finish in the wdc in an Adrian Newey car is P2 Edit: Forgot 2014 happened, but he still got P5 that year
@@sviniciusbraga The 2018 car was more competitive than the Mercedes that season. The engine was improve and car was fastest overall. It was the mistakes from the team and Vettel cost them the title.
@@madhavnarayan2475 he doesn’t have that extra speed like Hamilton or Alonso when things go difficult you know Ham and Alonso will push to maximum. But when Vettel is in a bad position some of the times he just couldn’t find his way up.
I would include the F1 stewards in Montreal 2019 and Hungary 2021.. always after Vettel...And Skysports commentators of course 2015 - present..always hammering on his "Mistakes" while Lewis this year has had his share of collosal errors, they rarely say anything negative except for Nico Rosberg...lol.
@@lukealderton6214 yeah but that's not the drivers fault necessarily but yeah..that's the rules..his fuel pump broke..bummer...I thought of Vettel after Lando didn't win...I remember Vettel was on the verge of his first win but crashed in the rain..intobhis teammate no less..Japan 2007.. he was pretty upset too.
@@Stahodad Yh that is the rule I don’t necessarily think that driver should be disqualified for lack of fuel however if the drivers don’t fuel save enough during a race then that is there fault so there’s a couple sides to the argument should the drivers be disqualified if there is not enough fuel at the end of the race
Yeah, honestly, it was hard to watch Seb last year. Although I never doubted his skill, I was never his biggest fan, but the last few years have seen his attitude humbled slightly, and he's become one of my favourites. As far as conspiracy goes, it's one of those things in motorsports. It wouldn't be surprising if it was true, and it wouldn't be surprising if it wasn't. Big teams and manufacturers have always cheated, bent rules and generally acted in unethical ways, but at the same time, Seb was definitely struggling to deal with the pressure at the time, and his mental state may have affected his performance. I can't say which one is true, or if it a mixture of both, but either way, I'm glad Seb is finding his groove again at AM.
I was disappointed for him after Hungary 2021 to have his well earned 2nd removed by a DQ with a technical issue. I don't disagree with the DQ because I believe rules should be applied properly or changed so they can be (it is a shame this is not always the case in F1), but I am sure his team did not deliberately get the fuelling wrong.
By 2020 they had decided Leclerc was the future and Vettel was the past. They developed the car around Leclerc's driving style which Vettel struggled to adopt. It didn't help that the team seemingly sabotaged Vettel with poor strategies and pit stops throughout the year. Leclerc shining while Vettel struggled would show the world Ferrari's struggles we're Seb's fault, and publicly justify cutting one of the most successful drivers of all time. The flaw in their plan was Aston Martin's signing of Seb. With his multiple podiums in a midfield team and strong performances at street circuits, he is showing he still has it. Looking forward to seeing how well he does with the 2022 machinery.
Did ferrari build a car to fit Carlos in 2021? Ferrari did make a lot of mistakes, but they also always had seb's back. The countless sacrifices that they made to kimi's race, just to give Seb a fighting chance. Even when they accidently undercut Leclerc in Singapore, not once did they tell seb to redress the position. Vettle is a good driver, he made mistakes too, and ever since germany 2018, his confidence just hasn't been the same. And why would ferrari sabotage a driver that they had already parted ways with? they needed ever point that they could get in 2020.
@frosty snow you can't use USA 2018 as an example, Kimi was in a position to win the race and vettle wasn't, vettel had already spun and ruined his race on the first lap. There are more instances of kimi being sacrificed than vettel being sacrificed. Monaco 2017 and austria 2017 are just some instances that come to mind, and there are more where that came from. The tow in monza was an accident, even vettel was pissed that he gave the two to kimi.
@frosty snow you're deliberately trying to see one side of the coin. you're willing to admit that kimi benefited from some of the strategy calls from ferrari, but not willing to admit the numerous times that vettel was helped by ruining Kimi's race. I like how you're willing to admit that kimi was out of contention in austria 2017 but not willing to admit that vettel was out of contention in US 2018, Even though vettel made a mistake that took him out of conention, and kimi was sacrificed for vettel.
Talking about 2017 and 2018. Yes, Seb made mistakes but.... In Mercedes Bottas was always asked to let Ham through. On the other hand it was a common situation when Vettel after a pit stop stucked behind Kimi. The amount of strategic mistakes was enormous.
The Mercedes was simply faster and more reliable and their team was equally flawless. All the fucked pitstops, strategies, crashes, clipped wings,...And as you said, all the times Lewis was gifted wins and points by Bottas.
Ferrari's problem has not been their drivers. Their problem has always been the management which is very toxic (GSC Ferrari also bodyshamed Seb) Now Ferrari has restructured since 2020 and there are new recruitment so let's hope their situation improves. But we need another Schumacher like person to politically control Ferrari. We need an employee and a driver that can control and get used to the political atmosphere and make it to his/her advantage. SEB tried to do this so many times but that stupid Arrivabene ruined it. If anything Arrivabene did not let Seb's biggest strength (car development) shine.
@@deathbylust700 he did not. Arrivabene always felt annoyed irritated whenever seb tried to help him. Seb might looked like the number one at ferrari. But in reality it was kimi who was the number one. He had input over the car development and also you can see in Germany 2018 where team did not want to apply team orders to push seb ahead and were hesitant
@@anshulshah1219 Im not saying Arrivabene cared for seb like Horner did. Im just saying he cared more than Binnoto. Atleast Arrivabene did not sabotage this races unlike binnoto who sacrificed sebs race for charles' results
@@anshulshah1219 I'm not saying Arrivabene _didn't_ prefer Kimi over Seb because, just like you really, i have no way of knowing that, unless you're some sort of insider or a close friend of either, but from the outside that really didn't seem to be the case. As a person, maybe, but still. For starters, it was Arrivabene's policy in general to not use team orders, (he stated as much on multiple occasions, and even got flak for it), instead preferring to let both drivers race, and when he was forced to use them they aaaalways were in favour of Seb, with Hungary 2017 being the first example that comes to mind: Kimi could have easily passed Seb (steering issues) but was ordered not to do so, having to act as his bodyguard against the mercs till the end of the race. Even strategy-wise Seb had top priority, but that's only natural when he's the one fighting for championships. Honestly your claim doesn't make much sense.
tbh most people say seb failed in 2018 which is partly true. but people seem to forget that ferrari had numerous blunders in strategy in 17 and 18. even if seb didn't commit those mistakes in the 2nd half of 18, I think Lewis would've still won cuz he was consistent af. also while ferrari and merc were on par with each other in the 1st half (tho i think ferrari edges them). in the 2nd half mercedes outdragged ferrari in development. on top of seb's errors, winning 2018 was really gonna be a struggle. 2017 imo is more painful, seb had minimal errors throughout the year. could even say he was the driver of the season and worthy champion. there was nothing else seb could've done with that 2017 ferrari. it was quick but not as quick as the merc, if not for the reliability failures in malaysia, japan as well as the incidents in singapore, uk, and canada. i think he could've won it by a thread of a needle.
You say he didn't commit errors yet you fail to mention Singapore 2017 which was entirely his fault! Plus he was gifted the wins in Monaco and Hungary through pit stops so I don't know how he really stacks up. Had Alonso been in that Ferrari, he would have taken the championship!
@@sushantpatil9448 Alonso? No I don't think so. The singapore has always been regarded as a racing incident you know. Could it have been avoided, probably yes. But racing is racing. There has been more errors from Max and Lewis this year than Seb's errors in 2017. Also, to say entirely is already wrong in it's self. Seb did the move to protect from Max, it was the same move that Alonso did a few years back. It just so happens that Kimi had a brilliant start. Obviously Kimi had no knowledge of Seb trying to block Max and Seb didn't know Kimi was up the inside either. By the Max realizes that Kimi was alongside it was too late. Even as a Max fan that was merely a racing incident. You might be forgetting Japan and Malaysia wherein reliability cost him dearly. Canada too where Max overtook Seb aggressively at the start and chopped bits of his front wing off and relegated him to the back. Ferrari was the one who cost him the title in 2017 not the other way around. That car was nowhere near the Mercedes.
2nd half of 2018 the Mercedes was just way better. They got Pole in every race but one after Germany and that was in Monza. 9/10 poles in the latter half of the season.
It is no coincidence that the one race where car performance didn’t matter as much, Turkey 2020, Vettel suddenly became an absolute monster. I was still not really as excited to watch Vettel running in P3, reason: because i already knew that Ferrari will 100% botch his pitstop on purpose to let Leclerc ahead… and it did happen… only for Vettel to get back onto the podium which was brilliant 🤩 could have been a P2 tho… 😤😔
Come on man, you need to get real. Vettel came out ahead of Leclerc after the pit stops and Leclerc overtook him with about 20 laps to go. Only reason he finished ahead was because of Leclerc’s mistake at the end.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI a slow pit stop does not prove anything. A team would not have a purposefully slow pit stop to slow down a driver as it makes them look unprofessional and doesn’t make the driver look bad at all. Plus slow pit stops are not always the teams fault. Vettel could’ve easily stopped beyond his marks or stalled when he was dropped off his jacks, like in Hungary🤷♂️
people really think Seb has run our of talent, but that does not seem to be the case, all the right strategies and no driver errors would still not give him the 2017 and 18 titles because Merc was just that good in team development
@@v10-e8y True, but also take in mind that the second part of the season proved Ferrari was slower and Hamilton commented about thats the reason Vettel keeps overpushing, but without those early mistakes they should've covered that. Although I believe 2017 without reliability issues he could've won too.
Pff Ferrari never had it together enough to take a title away from Merc in 2017 and 2018 whatsoever, Ferrari fans love to pretend it was entirely Seb's fault. Smh, one of the most toxic fan bases in all of F1. You can tell how much animosity Ferrari has towards Seb when they "congratulated" him on his second P2 this year, they didn't even write his name on the Twitter post.
As a Ferrari fan, no, it wasn't entirely Seb's fault. Ferrari also shared some unforgivable mistakes. Like in 2018 Chinese Gp if I remember correctly, Bottas tried to undercut Vettel. Ferrari should have brought Vettel to pit immediately. Instead, They made him to do another lap. Also in 2018, Q3 in Japan, Ferrari made the choice to go out with inter tyres when the track was still fricking dry. They thought the rain was coming early, but it wasn't. For the toxic part, yeah sometimes it's irritating to see someone just expressing hate towards the others, or even their own drivers/idols. But it's not just Ferrari fans, you know what is happening with Verstappen and Hamilton Fans right now. They're fighting for the title, just like Ferrari when fighting againts Merc for the title. The tensions and emotions were and are boilingly high, and no exception for the fans as well. It's part of a competition. If I see a toxic comment, just ignore it. Disconnect from Twitter if I need to. But, let me say this, not all Ferrari Fans, or Hamilton Fans, or Verstappen Fans, or Vettel Fans are toxic. Btw, I think Ferrari posted a Happy Birthday post for Vettel in Twitter some months ago. Sorry for the long comment though, it's just my opinion. I responded to the comment because I disagree that Ferrari has one of the most toxic fan bases in F1.
Mercedes had a faster, flawless car. And their team was just as perfect as their car. Mercedes was the stereotipical German law and ,meanwhile at Ferrari it was chaos.
In both 17 and 18, Mercedes literally left Ferrari in the dirt because of how far away they pulled off in the second half of the season. And the 18 car was bad in terms of handling like the back was all over the place. And Mercedes had so much more pace in the second half of 18. But yeah people always find others to blame on their mistakes except themselves.
What really shocked me is a post race interview in the middle of 2021 (don't remember which one, maybe Monza or a couple of races after) where Binotto told "WE CAN FINALLY HAVE TRUST IN BOTH PILOTS"
2020 Spanish GP when his engineer said "Can you go to the end of the race on this set" while Seb was on SOFTS, it's pretty damn suspect. Idk, maybe wait for Seb's book after he retires to find out? I mean, the "Ferrari masterplan" meme exists because they suck at strategy decisions, and screw up constantly, so I feel like it's just Ferrari being Ferrari and not understanding how to make decisions, but we'll see I guess.
I believe something that a lot of people also don't realise is that In 2017 , Mercedes brought massive updates in the second half of the season and had better straight line speed , seb also had reliability issues at Malaysia and Japan further destroying his title fight and by the end the merc was so much quicker in terms of raw pace that in abu dhabi seb finished 3rd around 30 seconds behind the mercs In 2018 Ferrari made a weird decision not to back seb in qualifying at Monza , giving raikonen pole Also they introduced some updates at Singapore which slowed the car down and till Japan none of their upgrades worked at all They removed all those upgrades at Brazil and finished 50 seconds behind redbull and Mercedes clearly the 3rd best team Ferrari had been unable to keep up with the development pace of the other teams Vettel clearly made mistakes during his time but blaming it entirely on Vettel, claiming he is nothing without a dominant redbull is just bs Also people who claim he had the fastest car in 2018 kindly rewatch the season after Singapore, Ferrari was the 3rd fastest team
I wouldn’t say that driver errors were the main factor for the championship loss. Just see how many errors are Hamilton and Verstappen doing this year. Clearly when the car performance is matching both drivers need to overdrive to stay in front and by overdriving they make errors. In 2017/18 Ferrari had cars that were matching Mercedes, but only in some of the 20ish circuits. This meant just one driver had to overdrive.
in 2018 Ferrari just became slower. In an interview, Seb said that the car to compete with merc again they removed four months of upgrades (USA 18) Especially the Singapore upgrade. That ruined the chassis balance and took out 0.5 sec from the car
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI I don't think Binotto is bad. But being team boss and technical director at the same time is not that optimal. He is a good technical director, but working part-time at both positions doesn't help.
Thank you for this video. I do believe that what Vettel said was true. He didn’t just say it once or twice - he told different journalists over the season that his car was different from Leclerc’s. I’m not sure if anyone remembers, but Vettel was on pace and even slightly faster than Leclerc in the first 3 races last season. Then his car broke down during free practice in Silverstone, and right after that Vettel fell behind by around half a second from Leclerc until Turkey 2020. Binotto stayed behind in Maranello for the Turkey and Bahrain races, and suddenly Vettel outqualified Leclerc again in both races. Ferrari even came out with a statement after saying that Vettel was now more comfortable with the SF1000. Binotto came back for the Sakhir GP, and once again Vettel was running ahead of Leclerc during the free practice sessions. Then the team suddenly made the call to switch him to an older engine for “precautionary measures” before qualifying, and we saw Leclerc getting ahead of Vettel that weekend. The same happened in Abu Dhabi - Vettel never closed up his gap to Leclerc and was outqualified once again in his final race for Ferrari. Interestingly, he told the Dutch media after the qualifying session in Abu Dhabi that he was pleased with his laps and felt that he did a good job. He then backed up his earlier statement by saying that no other team in the paddock has such a huge delta between the drivers. If you put the events that happened altogether, along with what Vettel said across the season, it’s actually quite obvious to see what happened in 2020 with Sebastian and Ferrari.
2019 for Ferrari was mess altogether, and 2020 is totally painful to watch. This was not like "Ferrari sabotaged Seb", more likely "Ferrari sabotaging their own team" with Charles just being more resistant to emotional trauma.
@@near.1029 Charles also crashed a lot more than Carlos so theres that. At the end of the season we will remember Who finished ahead and for the moment Sainz is ahead of Leclerc, in his first season.
We'll never know. Simply because we, as fans always sympathize with the drivers more than the team. Because the human mind is attracted to a famous single person more than a group of less-known individuals called the team. It's just a very pointless discussion. And please don't start labelling be as a Seb hater or smthn for this.. I love the guy.
I myself am a full devote Ferrari fan, it's more than a religion to me, and i feel no sympathy for seb, so i get what you say, but I may say that i am the opposite
2017 is definitely not on driver error... Japan, Malaysia and Singapore, 3 races where Seb lost about 50 points due to things out of his control. Also Silverstone he got a puncture in the end and finished 7th and in Canada he was involved in a racing incident at T1 where Max clipped his front wing (and yet Ferrari didn't realize it straight away that it was broken).
It's not a conspiracy, it had to happen; It was pretty obvious since Leclerc's arrival to Alfa Romeo that he'd end up being Ferrari's future; The team just put every resource into the young gun instead of the veteran (so you could say he was being sabotaged it that way). great work on the editing :)
team management in ferrari is a big reason why things go south very fast, they should be like merc and redbull where the drivers know whats being provided to them and why the other person is doing well.
@@aufa7770 They're #2 drivers made and that is how #2 drivers are treated. You cannot win a title by giving #2 driver the same environment as #1 driver unless you have a car like mercedes which is seconds faster than the rest of the field
Be that as it may I do have hope seeing Charles and Carlos together that Ferrari and Binotto have learnt their lesson in maintaining a harmonious driver pairing. It’s sad to say we will never get back Vettel’s years in red but the best we can hope for going forward is to see the team rebuild and start winning again. Mark my words Ferrari will have a dark horse in Carlos next year.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI the problen is, Sainz is more fit for Ferrari's image than Leclerc, but Leclerc is more favored by the team since there is Verstappen in Red Bull and Russell in Williams (later Mercedes)
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI You've got to be kidding, this can't not be a parody. So because the cameras didn't capture a single moment, because the team was like a minute late that obviously means that they are 100% focused on just Leclerc and treat Carlos like trash. Was that the only moment of F1 you watched this year? Otherwise you'd know that's bullshit. Man shut up with your bias, if that really is your reasoning i'd advise to go touch grass.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI hahaha incredible, the fact alone that you immediately judged me just because i have an Italian name is proof of your ignorance, amazing hahaha "how many times were they late to congratulate charles" you say, oh boy 😂 You wouldn't believe how many times i've seen people give Charles's engineer shit because he wasn't singing him praises after a pole or a great drive this year, but let's ignore that right? After all it wouldn't fit your narrative 😂 Ffs did you even watch the post-race?? It looked like they had just won the damn WDC! Also, who said Ferrari is perfect? Like hell it is, otherwise it would have won every year but it clearly hasn't, and that goes for Charles too, it'd be wrong and honestly stupid to say the contrary, i'm a fan not a damn zealot. Give me real proof, real examples that i can't dispute and i won't have any problem in saying you're right. You know why? Because i can separate my fan bias from my rational judgement, a basic skill you clearly lack.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI you're smoking something, because Carlos is actually starting to become the favourite right now. Binotto eand Leclerc have had falling outs over it because Binotto wants the development on the car to listen more to Carlos' input. Ferrari is becoming pretty annoyed by the negativiity around Leclerc (it's never good enough) and they very much enjoy the positive energy around Sainz. Leclerc is a little unhappy about how well Carlos is fitting into the outfit right now
2017 was definitely not driver error because in Singapore, Seb did what he had to do which was to come to the left side to cover Max but Kimi got a monstorous start and was immediately side by side with Max so they collided. We know that in an F1 car visibility is very bad so Seb could only see Max and not see Kimi. I can't think of any other instances in which it was Seb's fault in 2017. Although in 2018 he did make many mistakes.
People need to get it real for once, is not that drivers cracks on the pressure of Ferrari which is real to some extent, but you are capable to do whatever the machinery let you do. True, there is no excuses for Seb around 2019 and 2020, but Ferrari as a team never was even close to run a smooth operation as Mercedes did in those years of domination even with the drama with Rosberg and Hamilton they almost always did the right thing, when Ferrari always dropped the ball in stategy decitions and pitstops even when Seb suggested other ways. Guys, if Alonso and Vettel (6 WDC combined) didn't won the championship is because maybe is something wrong within Ferrari as a Team, subpar machinery, bad work enviroment, bad strategies, too much politics inside, living up to something they weren't at the moment, etc. I'm no personal fan of Seb, but the guy can drive despite his current bad luck, also this year in AM has been not great, but better than I expected given the current situation of lack of testing, bad design concept from AM, etc. The guy did podium 2 times this year in that shitbox that sit currently almost at the end of the midtable. Not signing for the conspiracy, but Ferrari could have won at least 1 or 2 titles with Alonso and/or Vettel if they solve their internal shit
Seb has 4 world champions and was close to his 5th. He is no amateur. Also, if you watched the 2020 season, you would've seen how many problems he had with his car. So YES, he was sabotaged by Ferrari.
Doesn't matter though. He and rossi are the kind of motorsports drivers who drive not for money or entertainment. They drive to win. Sadly he couldn't achieve what he believed he would all through out his life.
I don’t think they gave Vettel a different car, but I do feel that they literally mistreated him on and off the track. This might have translated into Vettels poor performance on track...
On one hand everything that seems logical says they didn't sabotage him. The whole trust issues plus the last two years could possible just been psychologically enough for Seb. On the other hand it's F1 politics and some stuff there is just crazy.
Same could be said for Bottas in 2021. The amount of "misfortune" like the stuck wheel nut just seems odd. Sure Russell is talented, especially on rain where Bottas is not, but it just seemed like everyone on the Mercedes team was making it sure his performance does not guarantee a seat for the next season.
@@finlanderxx bottas was always second driver had to give away wins so hamiltoncan get ahead all the time. Now that russel has joined hamilton has been outperformed and they can’t say much to russel as his young and feisty for wins and won’t really give a win when has chances to win the wdc a slim chance even
Great video, but the focus in the 2019 season is the wrong approach, in my humble opinion. By the end of 2018, Ferrari confidence in Vettel evaporated, and the Leclerc appointment was the writing in the wall. The real misteries of this failed marriage are in the inner dynamics during the 2017 and mainly, 2018 season. Why Raikkonen got the tow in Monza 2018 qualifying, for example? And many more situations.
Ferrari pressured Schuey to leave, bringing in what was then a very fast Raikkonen for 2007 and saying if you stay, Massa will be out of a job, Kimi will be your teammate and given the ok to fight you on track, no more number 1 status. They first pressured him with a fast Massa, then upped it for 2007, Schuey said ok, under these conditions I'm out, partly also for Massa to keep his Ferrari seat. Ferrari mentality is that no driver is bigger than Ferrari. Fed up with the reports 2010 to end of 2013 that they only scored so highly because of Alonso, doing things that very few drivers could dream of doing in that car, they pressured Alonso by again hiring Kimi, afterall it did work the first time. Well Alonso took on that challenge, stood tall and whooped Raikkonen. Alonso left after being approached by Ron Dennis and Honda, the dream of McLaren Honda dominating again. They signed 4 time champ Vettel, then after their car was no good and he hadn't delivered a title, internally they blamed him and squeezed the pressure. Arrivabene was let go from Ferrari because he let the drivers race in 2018 and never put full support behind Vettel and make Kimi yield. Upper Ferrari believed this cost them the title, also the fact that Vettel was easily more often than not, beating Kimi and potentially cruising. Enter fast hard charging Leclerc. Afraid of being fired like Arrivabene, Binotto favoured Vettel for most of 2019, which was not the right call. Had they favoured Leclerc early on, the title chase may have been more interesting. Anyway, the on track skirmish the two Ferrari boys delivered to each other saw Ferrari finally siding with Leclerc, so they pushed Vettel out by not even offering him contract negotiations. They have simply pressured every main driver since 2005. It's not a matter of if you'll be pressured to leave at Ferrari, it's a matter of when they'll apply the pressure.
I already wasn't a huge fan of ferrari in the first place, but im definitely not now. Where theres smoke, theres fire. Ferrari's entire company mantra reflects that of their f1 team and it stinks of elitism. Smells like dogshit narcissistic egoism.
@@kzyz3154 This egoistic elite behaviour started with Enzo. Got to know about his behaviour only after watching the Ford Vs Ferrari movie. I totally agree Ferrari makes beautiful and freaking fast cars. But they should be a bit humble and stop this high handedness. They should notice that their rivals like are better off by not deciding who should buy their car and how they would repaint it.
Everyone’s jumping on the Ferrari bandwagon this season but I won’t forget their antics over the years and how they treated Seb in his final season. People have short memories
The way Ferrari ditched (for lack of a better word) The Michael and Kimi was also pretty sus, so I guess I'm not even surprised they did the same thing with Seb. Someone did a video on this already, can't remember who, though. Aidan? CY? Josh? Tommo? Definitely one of them. Check them out. Not sponsored, they deserve the recognition. Ferrari fan here, btw. We know what we're like.
Some said that they were fighting for 3rd last year and that they needed Seb. But for me that argument is meaningless. Ferrari still earned more Money than Mercees, though they finished 6th in the constructors. Also they got more time for development in the wind tunnel. An lets not forget that giving the driver you wanna spent the next 4+ years with, even more Confidence by destroying a 4time champ is also sth they may have considered. Does this make sense... no or maybe?
It does make sense but Ferrari’s 2020 car was so bad because they literally had to take 40 horsepower from their car because the FIA found an illegal mechanism in their engine. If not that, I’m pretty sure Ferrari would have been on the lvl of Red Bull in 2020.
I don't believe Ferrari deliberately sabotaget Vettel. I do, however, find it likely they were giving Leclerc more attention, working harder to perfect his setup and used Vettel to benefit Leclerc. Ferrari operate with #1 & #2 drivers, and it was very obvious who had which position.
What Ferrari did to Sebastian is a yoke. Man deserved more championships, Sebastian deserved the 7 championships and 100 wins not Hamilton. And fucking Leclerc helping kill off Sebastians career in Ferrari. Vettel doesn't deserve the shit he was given. He deserves so much better
The only thing I don’t understand is despite driver errors of vettel in 2018 and onwards because except for singapore 2017, 2017 he was very good. But from 2018 onwards his pace was always very good. Even when he made mistakes in 2018 he always recovered to big points positions even making up 30s on Verstappen in Monza 2018 after his spin. And in 2019 yes many mistakes again but in racepace never seemed out of place at ferrari. So I rrally wonder why 2020 he was slow. And also how much of the old seb is still with him at Aston now. Like if we were to put true speed seb at aston now where would he bring the car. That’s what I’m wondering
Ferrari was fooled by Mercedes to sign for hybrid engine introduced. They didn't realize the complexity of a hybrid powertrain . Mercedes has already tested a engine+MGUK+MGUH+Energy Storage combo.
@@pixytokisaki1457 also has the most wins in a season in 2013 (13 tied with im pretty sure it was Schumacher), Plus he actually has more poles than schumacher, youngest to do a Grand Slam (I think it was India 2011) and youngest to be on Pole (italy 08).
Interesting In 2018 Marcus Ericsson who drove in the same team with Leclerc was noticing how Leclerc was faster than him in the straights. They had Ferrari engines and I do seriously believe Ferrari gave Leclerc a better engine than Ericsson. After last qualifying of the year in abu dhabi Ericsson gave a peak "It's interesting how Charles has purple sectors in sector 2 which is 2 straights and 1 chicane". Racing has never been fair and if there is one team who takes politics too seriously it would be a certain Italian team.
That goes to show that Leclerc has talent to carry more speeds through the corners. You guys have made Vettel a prophet of some sorts, he can do no wrong and anyone questioning him is a heathen in your eyes.
If they treated seb well and kept him until new regs this year which i always wanted to see to see how seb performed we could see another wdc its sad to think that now he has a car uncapable on pure pace for a single point
Ferrari turning their attention more to Charles and giving him the big contract makes perfect to sense. He was 22 at the time and had outperformed Vettel when the car and team was favouring Vettel. The idea that Vettel was being sabotaged is a stretch as well. They would not want to throw away constructors standings bonus money for the sake of making a driver look poor and trying to justify the backing of another, when it was already justified. The reason that Seb was poor last year was mainly due to the SF1000’s lack of rear grip and balance. Vettel likes a car with a strong rear and his adaptability is quite poor. Leclerc can adapt to a car better than Vettel can and doesn’t mind a car with poor rear stability as much.
2019 was a close year And given how many times ferrari had messed up pitstops, strategies and car having mechanical failures Seb was on par and even ahead of leclerc
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI at the halfway point they didn’t know who to favour, hence the drama. The first 7 races of the season they definitely favoured Vettel, Leclerc was asked to move aside when their pace was equal and he was out on some bizarre strategies. After Singapore Ferrari were not managing their drivers correctly.
@@AdityaSingh-rp4mt they were on par. But given that Vettel has been there longer and Leclerc was only 21/22, you can see why they have him a big contract and shifted the momentum towards him.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI the rear was shit because of the late engine change. So they had a chassis and an engine that did not match, given them an imbalance. Leclerc doesn’t prefer a loose rear, he could just adapt to it a bit better than Vettel.
It's easy to blame the driver, but I feel that the entire Ferrari team needs an overhaul like McLaren after Zak Brown took over and made the necessary changes, give it a fresh 'Perspective'.
We were fortunate enough to have been at the 2019 Italian GP, it was an insane atmosphere. The most memorable part for us was the otherwise meek Italian housewife sitting next to us going absolutely nuts, screaming out "Charles, Charles" during each of the last closing laps. That was the last F1 GP we attended .....seems like a lifetime ago. God, how we miss attending races. Fingers crossed for next year.
Vettel days in Ferrari were numbered when Leclerc beat him in 2019 despite being number 2 driver. Ferrari made a right choice with bringing Sainz on board. Just look at how well Carlos is doing now and compare it with Vettel's 2020 season. The fact that Vettel is not doing great at Aston Martin also speaks volumes.
Facts, Leclerc was clearly number two and took the team from under him. Still the question remains is Leclerc that good or is Vettel that bad? Maybe a bit of both?
@UCdk4vpgbFq1h50mkxJescrA He just needs beat a good teammate to prove he isn't a paper champion. Once he does that the trolls will quiet down no matter how competative or uncompetitive the car is. That has always been the question mark with Vettel, will he ever beat a competative driver in the same car?
@UCdk4vpgbFq1h50mkxJescrA I think Vettel is doing well to be honest, he’s had some bad luck this season but the fact that he got 2 podiums (If you count Hungary) shows that he still has the speed
@frosty snow Leclerc and Sainz have been pretty even in terms of performance most of this season so far. Also Leclerc doesn't carry anywhere near the same wage burden.
Remember the team compare telemetry between the drivers, Sebastian would be able to see if he is driving better or as good as Leclerc but still loosing.
I honestly think that ferarri screwed him over completely. Sure, I think there might've been a drop off in his performance, but I really don't think it can be as severe as it was. Now that he's at a more positive team, he's doing pretty well, even if he needs to drive that tractor.
I think its all Mattia Binotto who underplayed the engine regulations and didn't manage a friendly relationship between Charles and Seb. Stupidest Team Principal of Ferrari... 🙏
While I do think he's way better now than the previous two years, there's no denying how horrendous his driver management was in that period particularly 2019 (on track anyway). But the plus side in all this is how right now Charles and Carlos are getting along fine both on and off track so I guess you could say Mattia learned his lesson from the mismanagement he made back in 2019
@@nidhishnutakki Me too. I want Mattia to do well even if he's not my favourite. And besides, this team needs stability so we might as well keep him for a while
The Ferrari team have shown to be unreliable towards their drivers. Those F1 drivers that never want to drive for them are wise. Personally I’ve found business arrangements in Italy prove to be untrustworthy.
Hey man, your plosives are still pretty pronounced on your audio. I would look into minimizing them (whether software or pop filter/etc). Great video though as always. Love your work.
There is no question about it, Ferrari definetly sabotaged Sebs final year, and it’s really not a surprise since Ferrari has been doing this since the 60s.
Great video honestly But the theory is silly,just because Vettel was good in Turkey and some few races,while in Aston Martin hes slower than Stroll on average and amazing on 3-4 tracks,Ferrari didnt sabotaged Vettel ,why would they? half of the team loved him till the end and he did so,maybe he didnt like Binotto vise versa but he is struggling himself,hes not the old Sebastian in Aston also,aparr from some races,i think his performance is fading away with the current cars
Stroll may be a bit faster here and there but all that matters is that his results are garbage compared to Sebastian. You’d think him being on the team since 2019 would help but nope
Couldn't stand Charles Leclerc initially, but now he is one of my favourite drivers. Such a nice bloke, a fair driver, a good sport and overall just a gentleman.
Seb was definitely sabotaged lol and it all relates to the engine. With the settlement they had to rework their engine and they knew they would be uncompetitive. It would be determined that the lower the f1 teams would rank the previous season they would get more wind tunnel testing for their 2021/2022 new era car. Why do you think they left him out on his own? Terrible stops, no strategy, no support, yet leclerc is the golden boy. They threw Seb under the bus even though he had brought them in over half a billion dollars to them with championship points and wins, and the most wins since schumacher. It was disgraceful what they did to him
This has shown that perhaps Binotto is a far more capable strategist than we thought. He accelerated sebs downfall so they wouldn’t have 2 number 1 drivers for 2022 when they knew they would be fast. As part of the final reconstruction of the team Seb had to go to give place for an younger number 2 driver.
What if Red Bull announced the departure of Alex Albon earlier in the season(during the time Seb didn't have a new team), was there any chance for him for his return and how that would have reflected to the title battle this year
Prost, Alonso, Vettel these are some of the biggest names in f1. The fact that they didn't win any titles with Ferrari shows the problem within the team.
Yet they are also the most successful team in the sport. Look it all comes and goes in waves, McLaren just got their first win in 9 years after having two former world champions drive for them without so much as a podium.
They also improved the car throughout both season's. The British pundits are quick to point out that the Ferrari was superior but when you look at the progression made by Mercedes in both season's its pretty clear that Seb didn't have much of a chance against the Silver Arrows.
For me it seems, as if there is a major internal problem at Ferrari setting extreme negative pressure on the drivers. Vettel, Leclerc and Sainz are all great drivers and do/did in a fast Ferrari many more mistakes than the average. From year to year at Ferrari Vettel did more mistakes. 2015 was his best season at Ferrari, 2017 was also very strong. In 2018 and 2019 he did way to many mistakes, but was still quick. I think he tried to force things, that were just not possible. I think, Ferrari needs to treat their drivers better to win a championship. Mercedes showed with Hamilton how to do it.
Funny part is Ferrari keep pushing Leclerc as the star driver only for him to get outperformed by Sainz i 2021. Given Ferrari looks like they will be far more competitive in 2022, I'm really interested in how the inner-team rivalry plays out.
I have no doubt that Ferrari sabotaged Seb. in 2016, Sauber did something similar with Felipe Nasr. Ericsson got the new parts, and Nasr had to run with parts that were already very worn out. but even so, Nasr always did better.
That’s wasn’t sabotage that was limited development. A backmarker team like Sauber in 2016 isn’t able to provide new parts to both drivers at once every time a new upgrade comes in. And they’re not going to wait races so both cars are equal. Russia 2020 something similar happened with racing point. And it just so happens that the driver that isn’t leaving the next year and will continue driving for the team gets the new parts, naturally: Stroll, Ericsson…
Ferrari did pretty much forget seb in 2020 which did an absolute number on his confidence. Some of the team radio where Vettel was also basically being his own strategist was just embarrassing for such a big team
Like in spain
Where he himself had to make the call to go to the end on those softs
Was that the race where Seb was trying to talk to his engineer/strategist and wasn't getting a response?
If it is I think Seb was ignored a couple of times before the guy finally got back to him, and everyone watching on race on TV got to hear the whole thing 🤣, at which point it was probably to late to discuss whatever it was Seb wanted to talk about anyway.
If people think all it was was embarrassing for them, I know that's not what you said, then Ferrari got off way to easy because it was a lot more than just embarrassing.
Ferrari bulldozers 😅😅
@@AdityaSingh-rp4mt And the thing is, he was able to stay ahead of a Red Bull (although it was the Red Bull of Albon, but that doesn't change much). P.S he was on softs that were literally used, Idk how Vettel saved the tires as much as he did
@@darkox4172 He still has those moments of brilliance that remind you of what sort of driver he was, but they're so few and far between now that it makes you wonder if it isn't time to retire yet.
Honestly i wouldn't like him to become the next Kimi, but oh well, like Kimi, if he's ok with that then whatever.
When you had 3 world champion go through the team and still no success it's most likely the team's fault and not the drivers
Agreed
7 World Titles combined with Nando, Kimi and Seb. I mean, the hybrid era for Ferrari has been so far a fiasco. Not because of the drivers but that car. Except perhaps the 2018 (I believe it was) when Seb made many mistakes and the car was competitive.
@@javiersanz29 2017 was probably the best package ferrari ever had. sure the 2018 car had more speed and a bit more reliability but it handled a lot worse. besides, merc just pulled away at the second half anyways
@@xavier4519 Agreed, the back of that car was all over the place.
Fernando and Seb both deserved championships with Ferrari
Ferrari has a pretty long history of kicking out great drivers. I think we need a conspiracy episode on Ferrari forcing Schumacher's hand in his retirement.
By the time Ferrari let Vettel go he was not a great driver by any means, he was spinning often and had crashed into his teammate in the penultimate race. They 100% did the right thing I don't know how they're being vilified for that
@@defnotatroll 🤡🤡
@@jefsjefs8448 you think Ferrari should have extended his contract? Tell me why
@@nishantverma6796 you really don’t like Charles lmao.
@@defnotatroll thats because the 2020 car was built around charles
In my opinion, when Ross led Ferrari F1, they listened to their drivers. Both Alonso and Vettel did not receive the same respect from their management during their stints.
Yeah and it seems like this might have changed a bit since Sainz is well known for working close with the engineers and everyone and working on the setup of the car and very long hours. I really hope Seb releases a book about how Ferrari killed his life joy for these years.
@@henrik1743 seb is also well known for that so i dont think it makes a difference
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Their pitstops for Seb were definitely atrocious and sabotage worthy, but I don't think they purposedly sabotaged his car, and it was a knock-on effect of making the car more power dependent then aero dependent. Because Seb's problems started in 2018 when Charles was still at Sauber. Seb looks like a driver who is more comfortable in a downforce heavy car, which is the reason his worst finish in the wdc in an Adrian Newey car is P2
Edit: Forgot 2014 happened, but he still got P5 that year
What about 2014?
Vettel is talented... But he lacks something some drivers have. I can't quite explain what it is, because speed is not it.
@@madhavnarayan2475 mental strenght probably, he can't carry a team on his own
@@sviniciusbraga The 2018 car was more competitive than the Mercedes that season. The engine was improve and car was fastest overall. It was the mistakes from the team and Vettel cost them the title.
@@madhavnarayan2475 he doesn’t have that extra speed like Hamilton or Alonso when things go difficult you know Ham and Alonso will push to maximum. But when Vettel is in a bad position some of the times he just couldn’t find his way up.
I would include the F1 stewards in Montreal 2019 and Hungary 2021.. always after Vettel...And Skysports commentators of course 2015 - present..always hammering on his "Mistakes" while Lewis this year has had his share of collosal errors, they rarely say anything negative except for Nico Rosberg...lol.
I agree with everything apart from Hungary 2021 AM couldn’t give fia enough fuel so they got disqualified which is the rules
@@lukealderton6214 yeah but that's not the drivers fault necessarily but yeah..that's the rules..his fuel pump broke..bummer...I thought of Vettel after Lando didn't win...I remember Vettel was on the verge of his first win but crashed in the rain..intobhis teammate no less..Japan 2007.. he was pretty upset too.
I love Nico on the commentary team. Guy is a ruthless shit rasier always asking the hard hitting questions
@@Stahodad Yh that is the rule I don’t necessarily think that driver should be disqualified for lack of fuel however if the drivers don’t fuel save enough during a race then that is there fault so there’s a couple sides to the argument should the drivers be disqualified if there is not enough fuel at the end of the race
@@User77384a Nico is truthful thats the best part. He always gives credit when its earned.
Yeah, honestly, it was hard to watch Seb last year. Although I never doubted his skill, I was never his biggest fan, but the last few years have seen his attitude humbled slightly, and he's become one of my favourites.
As far as conspiracy goes, it's one of those things in motorsports. It wouldn't be surprising if it was true, and it wouldn't be surprising if it wasn't. Big teams and manufacturers have always cheated, bent rules and generally acted in unethical ways, but at the same time, Seb was definitely struggling to deal with the pressure at the time, and his mental state may have affected his performance. I can't say which one is true, or if it a mixture of both, but either way, I'm glad Seb is finding his groove again at AM.
I have the same opinion as well and I have faith in him. He is a lot happier now than he was in Ferrari and I am happy for him
People only like him cause he was at Ferrari and he started losing. If he didn’t ever lose people would even still hate him
@@dbabu51 just like schumi and ham?
Seb got a redemption chance
Yeah, Sad to see that it didn't work out at ferrari but glad to see he is recovering at AM
I was disappointed for him after Hungary 2021 to have his well earned 2nd removed by a DQ with a technical issue. I don't disagree with the DQ because I believe rules should be applied properly or changed so they can be (it is a shame this is not always the case in F1), but I am sure his team did not deliberately get the fuelling wrong.
By 2020 they had decided Leclerc was the future and Vettel was the past. They developed the car around Leclerc's driving style which Vettel struggled to adopt. It didn't help that the team seemingly sabotaged Vettel with poor strategies and pit stops throughout the year.
Leclerc shining while Vettel struggled would show the world Ferrari's struggles we're Seb's fault, and publicly justify cutting one of the most successful drivers of all time.
The flaw in their plan was Aston Martin's signing of Seb. With his multiple podiums in a midfield team and strong performances at street circuits, he is showing he still has it. Looking forward to seeing how well he does with the 2022 machinery.
Did ferrari build a car to fit Carlos in 2021? Ferrari did make a lot of mistakes, but they also always had seb's back. The countless sacrifices that they made to kimi's race, just to give Seb a fighting chance. Even when they accidently undercut Leclerc in Singapore, not once did they tell seb to redress the position. Vettle is a good driver, he made mistakes too, and ever since germany 2018, his confidence just hasn't been the same. And why would ferrari sabotage a driver that they had already parted ways with? they needed ever point that they could get in 2020.
@frosty snow you can't use USA 2018 as an example, Kimi was in a position to win the race and vettle wasn't, vettel had already spun and ruined his race on the first lap. There are more instances of kimi being sacrificed than vettel being sacrificed. Monaco 2017 and austria 2017 are just some instances that come to mind, and there are more where that came from. The tow in monza was an accident, even vettel was pissed that he gave the two to kimi.
@frosty snow you're deliberately trying to see one side of the coin. you're willing to admit that kimi benefited from some of the strategy calls from ferrari, but not willing to admit the numerous times that vettel was helped by ruining Kimi's race. I like how you're willing to admit that kimi was out of contention in austria 2017 but not willing to admit that vettel was out of contention in US 2018, Even though vettel made a mistake that took him out of conention, and kimi was sacrificed for vettel.
What a ton of crap 🤦🏼♂️
Yeah no vettel is just washed
Talking about 2017 and 2018. Yes, Seb made mistakes but.... In Mercedes Bottas was always asked to let Ham through. On the other hand it was a common situation when Vettel after a pit stop stucked behind Kimi. The amount of strategic mistakes was enormous.
Atleast they are quite Less these days
yeah, because they still like Sainz / Leclerc
The Mercedes was simply faster and more reliable and their team was equally flawless. All the fucked pitstops, strategies, crashes, clipped wings,...And as you said, all the times Lewis was gifted wins and points by Bottas.
Kimi had to ask if they want him to let Sebastian by. They were indecisive at times.
@@troll_486 or because it doesn't matter when they can't win races.
Ferrari's problem has not been their drivers.
Their problem has always been the management which is very toxic (GSC Ferrari also bodyshamed Seb)
Now Ferrari has restructured since 2020 and there are new recruitment so let's hope their situation improves.
But we need another Schumacher like person to politically control Ferrari.
We need an employee and a driver that can control and get used to the political atmosphere and make it to his/her advantage.
SEB tried to do this so many times but that stupid Arrivabene ruined it.
If anything Arrivabene did not let Seb's biggest strength (car development) shine.
Arrivabene cared a little bit for Seb unlike Binnoto. The problem with Arrivabene is that he was the higher up's lap dog
@@deathbylust700 he did not.
Arrivabene always felt annoyed irritated whenever seb tried to help him.
Seb might looked like the number one at ferrari.
But in reality it was kimi who was the number one.
He had input over the car development and also you can see in Germany 2018 where team did not want to apply team orders to push seb ahead and were hesitant
@@anshulshah1219 Im not saying Arrivabene cared for seb like Horner did. Im just saying he cared more than Binnoto. Atleast Arrivabene did not sabotage this races unlike binnoto who sacrificed sebs race for charles' results
@@anshulshah1219 I'm not saying Arrivabene _didn't_ prefer Kimi over Seb because, just like you really, i have no way of knowing that, unless you're some sort of insider or a close friend of either, but from the outside that really didn't seem to be the case. As a person, maybe, but still.
For starters, it was Arrivabene's policy in general to not use team orders, (he stated as much on multiple occasions, and even got flak for it), instead preferring to let both drivers race, and when he was forced to use them they aaaalways were in favour of Seb, with Hungary 2017 being the first example that comes to mind: Kimi could have easily passed Seb (steering issues) but was ordered not to do so, having to act as his bodyguard against the mercs till the end of the race. Even strategy-wise Seb had top priority, but that's only natural when he's the one fighting for championships. Honestly your claim doesn't make much sense.
Yeah Vettel is being beeten by Stroll, now you'll say that Stroll is used to the car and Vettel isn't
tbh most people say seb failed in 2018 which is partly true. but people seem to forget that ferrari had numerous blunders in strategy in 17 and 18. even if seb didn't commit those mistakes in the 2nd half of 18, I think Lewis would've still won cuz he was consistent af. also while ferrari and merc were on par with each other in the 1st half (tho i think ferrari edges them). in the 2nd half mercedes outdragged ferrari in development. on top of seb's errors, winning 2018 was really gonna be a struggle. 2017 imo is more painful, seb had minimal errors throughout the year. could even say he was the driver of the season and worthy champion. there was nothing else seb could've done with that 2017 ferrari. it was quick but not as quick as the merc, if not for the reliability failures in malaysia, japan as well as the incidents in singapore, uk, and canada. i think he could've won it by a thread of a needle.
You say he didn't commit errors yet you fail to mention Singapore 2017 which was entirely his fault! Plus he was gifted the wins in Monaco and Hungary through pit stops so I don't know how he really stacks up. Had Alonso been in that Ferrari, he would have taken the championship!
@@sushantpatil9448 Alonso? No I don't think so. The singapore has always been regarded as a racing incident you know. Could it have been avoided, probably yes. But racing is racing. There has been more errors from Max and Lewis this year than Seb's errors in 2017. Also, to say entirely is already wrong in it's self. Seb did the move to protect from Max, it was the same move that Alonso did a few years back. It just so happens that Kimi had a brilliant start. Obviously Kimi had no knowledge of Seb trying to block Max and Seb didn't know Kimi was up the inside either. By the Max realizes that Kimi was alongside it was too late. Even as a Max fan that was merely a racing incident. You might be forgetting Japan and Malaysia wherein reliability cost him dearly. Canada too where Max overtook Seb aggressively at the start and chopped bits of his front wing off and relegated him to the back. Ferrari was the one who cost him the title in 2017 not the other way around. That car was nowhere near the Mercedes.
2nd half of 2018 the Mercedes was just way better. They got Pole in every race but one after Germany and that was in Monza. 9/10 poles in the latter half of the season.
It is no coincidence that the one race where car performance didn’t matter as much, Turkey 2020, Vettel suddenly became an absolute monster. I was still not really as excited to watch Vettel running in P3, reason: because i already knew that Ferrari will 100% botch his pitstop on purpose to let Leclerc ahead… and it did happen… only for Vettel to get back onto the podium which was brilliant 🤩 could have been a P2 tho… 😤😔
Nice point🙌
Come on man, you need to get real. Vettel came out ahead of Leclerc after the pit stops and Leclerc overtook him with about 20 laps to go. Only reason he finished ahead was because of Leclerc’s mistake at the end.
@@nathanfrench7634 but the pit stop was still slow tho
@@puiahnamte4763 so was Checo’s pit stop? Does that mean he was being sabotaged? The idea that it was purposely slow is unbelievably ridiculous.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI a slow pit stop does not prove anything. A team would not have a purposefully slow pit stop to slow down a driver as it makes them look unprofessional and doesn’t make the driver look bad at all. Plus slow pit stops are not always the teams fault. Vettel could’ve easily stopped beyond his marks or stalled when he was dropped off his jacks, like in Hungary🤷♂️
people really think Seb has run our of talent, but that does not seem to be the case, all the right strategies and no driver errors would still not give him the 2017 and 18 titles because Merc was just that good in team development
@@v10-e8y True, but also take in mind that the second part of the season proved Ferrari was slower and Hamilton commented about thats the reason Vettel keeps overpushing, but without those early mistakes they should've covered that. Although I believe 2017 without reliability issues he could've won too.
@@v10-e8y Yea I agree, but in 2018 Mercedes was even better. There was stability and no politics at HQ.
Pff Ferrari never had it together enough to take a title away from Merc in 2017 and 2018 whatsoever, Ferrari fans love to pretend it was entirely Seb's fault. Smh, one of the most toxic fan bases in all of F1. You can tell how much animosity Ferrari has towards Seb when they "congratulated" him on his second P2 this year, they didn't even write his name on the Twitter post.
As a Ferrari fan, no, it wasn't entirely Seb's fault. Ferrari also shared some unforgivable mistakes. Like in 2018 Chinese Gp if I remember correctly, Bottas tried to undercut Vettel. Ferrari should have brought Vettel to pit immediately. Instead, They made him to do another lap. Also in 2018, Q3 in Japan, Ferrari made the choice to go out with inter tyres when the track was still fricking dry. They thought the rain was coming early, but it wasn't.
For the toxic part, yeah sometimes it's irritating to see someone just expressing hate towards the others, or even their own drivers/idols. But it's not just Ferrari fans, you know what is happening with Verstappen and Hamilton Fans right now. They're fighting for the title, just like Ferrari when fighting againts Merc for the title. The tensions and emotions were and are boilingly high, and no exception for the fans as well. It's part of a competition. If I see a toxic comment, just ignore it. Disconnect from Twitter if I need to. But, let me say this, not all Ferrari Fans, or Hamilton Fans, or Verstappen Fans, or Vettel Fans are toxic.
Btw, I think Ferrari posted a Happy Birthday post for Vettel in Twitter some months ago.
Sorry for the long comment though, it's just my opinion. I responded to the comment because I disagree that Ferrari has one of the most toxic fan bases in F1.
@@ellibertadzapata7167 Ferrari's entire culture is toxic, its not just the f1 team. Its their business model.
Mercedes had a faster, flawless car. And their team was just as perfect as their car. Mercedes was the stereotipical German law and ,meanwhile at Ferrari it was chaos.
In both 17 and 18, Mercedes literally left Ferrari in the dirt because of how far away they pulled off in the second half of the season. And the 18 car was bad in terms of handling like the back was all over the place. And Mercedes had so much more pace in the second half of 18. But yeah people always find others to blame on their mistakes except themselves.
@@kzyz3154 nuh uh
What really shocked me is a post race interview in the middle of 2021 (don't remember which one, maybe Monza or a couple of races after) where Binotto told "WE CAN FINALLY HAVE TRUST IN BOTH PILOTS"
2020 Spanish GP when his engineer said "Can you go to the end of the race on this set" while Seb was on SOFTS, it's pretty damn suspect. Idk, maybe wait for Seb's book after he retires to find out? I mean, the "Ferrari masterplan" meme exists because they suck at strategy decisions, and screw up constantly, so I feel like it's just Ferrari being Ferrari and not understanding how to make decisions, but we'll see I guess.
What lap was he on?
@@airilizzat6776 idk but he did like 30-40 laps on softs. Even Pirelli were wondering how he made the tyres last.
@@airilizzat6776 He pitted lap 29 from mediums and finished on a one stop, so did 36 laps on a used set of softs, they weren't even brand new softs.
Just a shit strategy like always,not a conspiracy against him. It's Ferrari😂
@@ale8857 Not just a shit strategy. Its careless. They really gave up that year and put all their resources on Charles and next year. Left seb to rot.
I believe something that a lot of people also don't realise is that
In 2017 , Mercedes brought massive updates in the second half of the season and had better straight line speed , seb also had reliability issues at Malaysia and Japan further destroying his title fight and by the end the merc was so much quicker in terms of raw pace that in abu dhabi seb finished 3rd around 30 seconds behind the mercs
In 2018
Ferrari made a weird decision not to back seb in qualifying at Monza , giving raikonen pole
Also they introduced some updates at Singapore which slowed the car down and till Japan none of their upgrades worked at all
They removed all those upgrades at Brazil and finished 50 seconds behind redbull and Mercedes clearly the 3rd best team
Ferrari had been unable to keep up with the development pace of the other teams
Vettel clearly made mistakes during his time but blaming it entirely on Vettel, claiming he is nothing without a dominant redbull is just bs
Also people who claim he had the fastest car in 2018 kindly rewatch the season after Singapore, Ferrari was the 3rd fastest team
I wouldn’t say that driver errors were the main factor for the championship loss.
Just see how many errors are Hamilton and Verstappen doing this year. Clearly when the car performance is matching both drivers need to overdrive to stay in front and by overdriving they make errors.
In 2017/18 Ferrari had cars that were matching Mercedes, but only in some of the 20ish circuits. This meant just one driver had to overdrive.
in 2018 Ferrari just became slower.
In an interview, Seb said that the car to compete with merc again they removed four months of upgrades (USA 18)
Especially the Singapore upgrade.
That ruined the chassis balance and took out 0.5 sec from the car
@@sviniciusbraga true and sending your best employees to different teams doesn't work either
they should've kept Arrivabene :(
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI not exactly sure why Binotto still has his role as team boss tbh.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI Binotto is a dictator in Ferrari, idk why
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI ah i see, so the board is basically the ferrari equivalent of the US corporations
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI I don't think Binotto is bad. But being team boss and technical director at the same time is not that optimal. He is a good technical director, but working part-time at both positions doesn't help.
Arrivabene was a bad team principal. He didn't let seb do whatever he wanted with the team and lead them like he did with RB.
Thank you for this video. I do believe that what Vettel said was true. He didn’t just say it once or twice - he told different journalists over the season that his car was different from Leclerc’s.
I’m not sure if anyone remembers, but Vettel was on pace and even slightly faster than Leclerc in the first 3 races last season. Then his car broke down during free practice in Silverstone, and right after that Vettel fell behind by around half a second from Leclerc until Turkey 2020. Binotto stayed behind in Maranello for the Turkey and Bahrain races, and suddenly Vettel outqualified Leclerc again in both races. Ferrari even came out with a statement after saying that Vettel was now more comfortable with the SF1000. Binotto came back for the Sakhir GP, and once again Vettel was running ahead of Leclerc during the free practice sessions. Then the team suddenly made the call to switch him to an older engine for “precautionary measures” before qualifying, and we saw Leclerc getting ahead of Vettel that weekend. The same happened in Abu Dhabi - Vettel never closed up his gap to Leclerc and was outqualified once again in his final race for Ferrari.
Interestingly, he told the Dutch media after the qualifying session in Abu Dhabi that he was pleased with his laps and felt that he did a good job. He then backed up his earlier statement by saying that no other team in the paddock has such a huge delta between the drivers.
If you put the events that happened altogether, along with what Vettel said across the season, it’s actually quite obvious to see what happened in 2020 with Sebastian and Ferrari.
Interesting
At first I was a bit sceptical about the sabotage thing, but after hearing that I'm starting to think that it's very likely
2019 for Ferrari was mess altogether, and 2020 is totally painful to watch. This was not like "Ferrari sabotaged Seb", more likely "Ferrari sabotaging their own team" with Charles just being more resistant to emotional trauma.
Funny how Carlos is matching Charles this season.
Proves that seb was making charles look better than he was perhaps
they've finally got a chance to clean their reputation and a fresh start, but who knows what he'll be turned into in 3-5 years
@@near.1029 well he should be or else with a stronger car sainz would be putting the team in a difficult (read team orders) situation
@@near.1029 Charles also crashed a lot more than Carlos so theres that. At the end of the season we will remember Who finished ahead and for the moment Sainz is ahead of Leclerc, in his first season.
Seems like you only watch the highlights
We'll never know. Simply because we, as fans always sympathize with the drivers more than the team. Because the human mind is attracted to a famous single person more than a group of less-known individuals called the team.
It's just a very pointless discussion.
And please don't start labelling be as a Seb hater or smthn for this.. I love the guy.
A reasonable comment on TH-cam?! I need to smoke less weed I’m starting to see things.
it's easier to defend a more likeable guy
I myself am a full devote Ferrari fan, it's more than a religion to me, and i feel no sympathy for seb, so i get what you say, but I may say that i am the opposite
2017 is definitely not on driver error... Japan, Malaysia and Singapore, 3 races where Seb lost about 50 points due to things out of his control. Also Silverstone he got a puncture in the end and finished 7th and in Canada he was involved in a racing incident at T1 where Max clipped his front wing (and yet Ferrari didn't realize it straight away that it was broken).
It's not a conspiracy, it had to happen;
It was pretty obvious since Leclerc's arrival to Alfa Romeo that he'd end up being Ferrari's future;
The team just put every resource into the young gun instead of the veteran (so you could say he was being sabotaged it that way).
great work on the editing :)
team management in ferrari is a big reason why things go south very fast, they should be like merc and redbull where the drivers know whats being provided to them and why the other person is doing well.
Bottas and Perez is doing very well indeed
Red Bull...and that's when you know you fucked up
Mercedes...yeah...
@@aufa7770 They're #2 drivers made and that is how #2 drivers are treated. You cannot win a title by giving #2 driver the same environment as #1 driver unless you have a car like mercedes which is seconds faster than the rest of the field
Irony of bringing in Red Bull into the conversation.
@@oki83435 you'd end up with another Rosberg-Hamilton tiff
Be that as it may I do have hope seeing Charles and Carlos together that Ferrari and Binotto have learnt their lesson in maintaining a harmonious driver pairing. It’s sad to say we will never get back Vettel’s years in red but the best we can hope for going forward is to see the team rebuild and start winning again. Mark my words Ferrari will have a dark horse in Carlos next year.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI the problen is, Sainz is more fit for Ferrari's image than Leclerc, but Leclerc is more favored by the team since there is Verstappen in Red Bull and Russell in Williams (later Mercedes)
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI You've got to be kidding, this can't not be a parody. So because the cameras didn't capture a single moment, because the team was like a minute late that obviously means that they are 100% focused on just Leclerc and treat Carlos like trash. Was that the only moment of F1 you watched this year? Otherwise you'd know that's bullshit.
Man shut up with your bias, if that really is your reasoning i'd advise to go touch grass.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI hahaha incredible, the fact alone that you immediately judged me just because i have an Italian name is proof of your ignorance, amazing hahaha
"how many times were they late to congratulate charles" you say, oh boy 😂
You wouldn't believe how many times i've seen people give Charles's engineer shit because he wasn't singing him praises after a pole or a great drive this year, but let's ignore that right? After all it wouldn't fit your narrative 😂
Ffs did you even watch the post-race?? It looked like they had just won the damn WDC!
Also, who said Ferrari is perfect? Like hell it is, otherwise it would have won every year but it clearly hasn't, and that goes for Charles too, it'd be wrong and honestly stupid to say the contrary, i'm a fan not a damn zealot. Give me real proof, real examples that i can't dispute and i won't have any problem in saying you're right.
You know why? Because i can separate my fan bias from my rational judgement, a basic skill you clearly lack.
How fitting. Their logo is a dark horse. Literally.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI you're smoking something, because Carlos is actually starting to become the favourite right now. Binotto eand Leclerc have had falling outs over it because Binotto wants the development on the car to listen more to Carlos' input. Ferrari is becoming pretty annoyed by the negativiity around Leclerc (it's never good enough) and they very much enjoy the positive energy around Sainz. Leclerc is a little unhappy about how well Carlos is fitting into the outfit right now
2017 was definitely not driver error because in Singapore, Seb did what he had to do which was to come to the left side to cover Max but Kimi got a monstorous start and was immediately side by side with Max so they collided. We know that in an F1 car visibility is very bad so Seb could only see Max and not see Kimi. I can't think of any other instances in which it was Seb's fault in 2017. Although in 2018 he did make many mistakes.
People need to get it real for once, is not that drivers cracks on the pressure of Ferrari which is real to some extent, but you are capable to do whatever the machinery let you do. True, there is no excuses for Seb around 2019 and 2020, but Ferrari as a team never was even close to run a smooth operation as Mercedes did in those years of domination even with the drama with Rosberg and Hamilton they almost always did the right thing, when Ferrari always dropped the ball in stategy decitions and pitstops even when Seb suggested other ways.
Guys, if Alonso and Vettel (6 WDC combined) didn't won the championship is because maybe is something wrong within Ferrari as a Team, subpar machinery, bad work enviroment, bad strategies, too much politics inside, living up to something they weren't at the moment, etc.
I'm no personal fan of Seb, but the guy can drive despite his current bad luck, also this year in AM has been not great, but better than I expected given the current situation of lack of testing, bad design concept from AM, etc. The guy did podium 2 times this year in that shitbox that sit currently almost at the end of the midtable.
Not signing for the conspiracy, but Ferrari could have won at least 1 or 2 titles with Alonso and/or Vettel if they solve their internal shit
He got so owerpowered, god had to nerf him
It started in Monza 2018 when Ferrari gave Kimi the advantage in qualifying for no reason
Seb has 4 world champions and was close to his 5th. He is no amateur. Also, if you watched the 2020 season, you would've seen how many problems he had with his car. So YES, he was sabotaged by Ferrari.
nonetheless seb still earned a shit ton of money from his years in ferrari
And a massive Champions League trophy
Doesn't matter though. He and rossi are the kind of motorsports drivers who drive not for money or entertainment. They drive to win. Sadly he couldn't achieve what he believed he would all through out his life.
I don’t think they gave Vettel a different car, but I do feel that they literally mistreated him on and off the track. This might have translated into Vettels poor performance on track...
On one hand everything that seems logical says they didn't sabotage him. The whole trust issues plus the last two years could possible just been psychologically enough for Seb.
On the other hand it's F1 politics and some stuff there is just crazy.
Same could be said for Bottas in 2021. The amount of "misfortune" like the stuck wheel nut just seems odd. Sure Russell is talented, especially on rain where Bottas is not, but it just seemed like everyone on the Mercedes team was making it sure his performance does not guarantee a seat for the next season.
@@finlanderxx bottas was always second driver had to give away wins so hamiltoncan get ahead all the time. Now that russel has joined hamilton has been outperformed and they can’t say much to russel as his young and feisty for wins and won’t really give a win when has chances to win the wdc a slim chance even
@@hasankoc5419 Not so sure about it anymore after the last five races Hamilton has domanated Russel after he has gotten rid of the bouncing car
@@finlanderxx yes but russel still outperformed this season so far plus its his first year in the team vs 7 time champion.
@@hasankoc5419 yeah so far
Look, Ferrari just wanted to get back to their roots: Loosing while also wasting enormous amounts of money.
Alltime classic 😂
Great video, but the focus in the 2019 season is the wrong approach, in my humble opinion. By the end of 2018, Ferrari confidence in Vettel evaporated, and the Leclerc appointment was the writing in the wall. The real misteries of this failed marriage are in the inner dynamics during the 2017 and mainly, 2018 season. Why Raikkonen got the tow in Monza 2018 qualifying, for example? And many more situations.
Ferrari pressured Schuey to leave, bringing in what was then a very fast Raikkonen for 2007 and saying if you stay, Massa will be out of a job, Kimi will be your teammate and given the ok to fight you on track, no more number 1 status. They first pressured him with a fast Massa, then upped it for 2007, Schuey said ok, under these conditions I'm out, partly also for Massa to keep his Ferrari seat.
Ferrari mentality is that no driver is bigger than Ferrari.
Fed up with the reports 2010 to end of 2013 that they only scored so highly because of Alonso, doing things that very few drivers could dream of doing in that car, they pressured Alonso by again hiring Kimi, afterall it did work the first time.
Well Alonso took on that challenge, stood tall and whooped Raikkonen.
Alonso left after being approached by Ron Dennis and Honda, the dream of McLaren Honda dominating again.
They signed 4 time champ Vettel, then after their car was no good and he hadn't delivered a title, internally they blamed him and squeezed the pressure.
Arrivabene was let go from Ferrari because he let the drivers race in 2018 and never put full support behind Vettel and make Kimi yield. Upper Ferrari believed this cost them the title, also the fact that Vettel was easily more often than not, beating Kimi and potentially cruising.
Enter fast hard charging Leclerc. Afraid of being fired like Arrivabene, Binotto favoured Vettel for most of 2019, which was not the right call. Had they favoured Leclerc early on, the title chase may have been more interesting.
Anyway, the on track skirmish the two Ferrari boys delivered to each other saw Ferrari finally siding with Leclerc, so they pushed Vettel out by not even offering him contract negotiations.
They have simply pressured every main driver since 2005.
It's not a matter of if you'll be pressured to leave at Ferrari, it's a matter of when they'll apply the pressure.
I already wasn't a huge fan of ferrari in the first place, but im definitely not now. Where theres smoke, theres fire. Ferrari's entire company mantra reflects that of their f1 team and it stinks of elitism. Smells like dogshit narcissistic egoism.
@@kzyz3154 This egoistic elite behaviour started with Enzo. Got to know about his behaviour only after watching the Ford Vs Ferrari movie. I totally agree Ferrari makes beautiful and freaking fast cars. But they should be a bit humble and stop this high handedness. They should notice that their rivals like are better off by not deciding who should buy their car and how they would repaint it.
@@kzyz3154 its ot just Ferrari that does things like that, it's f1, it's a business
@@lorenzoperotti4813 its one thing to just be elitist, its another when you make it the company policy to continually perpetuate it.
@@kzyz3154 In what way are they elitist?
Everyone be talking about how harsh Redbull treat their no.2 driver but never talk how Ferrari shit on their no. 1 driver
All part of the Great Ferrari Master🅱️lan headed by s🅱️inotto.
Sbinala
Everyone’s jumping on the Ferrari bandwagon this season but I won’t forget their antics over the years and how they treated Seb in his final season. People have short memories
The way Ferrari ditched (for lack of a better word) The Michael and Kimi was also pretty sus, so I guess I'm not even surprised they did the same thing with Seb. Someone did a video on this already, can't remember who, though. Aidan? CY? Josh? Tommo? Definitely one of them. Check them out. Not sponsored, they deserve the recognition.
Ferrari fan here, btw. We know what we're like.
Some said that they were fighting for 3rd last year and that they needed Seb. But for me that argument is meaningless. Ferrari still earned more Money than Mercees, though they finished 6th in the constructors. Also they got more time for development in the wind tunnel. An lets not forget that giving the driver you wanna spent the next 4+ years with, even more Confidence by destroying a 4time champ is also sth they may have considered. Does this make sense... no or maybe?
It does make sense but Ferrari’s 2020 car was so bad because they literally had to take 40 horsepower from their car because the FIA found an illegal mechanism in their engine. If not that, I’m pretty sure Ferrari would have been on the lvl of Red Bull in 2020.
I don't believe Ferrari deliberately sabotaget Vettel. I do, however, find it likely they were giving Leclerc more attention, working harder to perfect his setup and used Vettel to benefit Leclerc. Ferrari operate with #1 & #2 drivers, and it was very obvious who had which position.
Exactly this is probably true but Leclerc fanboys would say other stupid things
Kimi, Eddie, Fernando, Felipe, Rubens etc. This team is a graveyard for good drivers
Seb is a legend...he will always be. Ferrari sabatoged themselves.Their choise will backfire
Ferrari will never win a championship again if they carry on screwing up strategy and development.
What Ferrari did to Sebastian is a yoke. Man deserved more championships, Sebastian deserved the 7 championships and 100 wins not Hamilton. And fucking Leclerc helping kill off Sebastians career in Ferrari. Vettel doesn't deserve the shit he was given. He deserves so much better
0:08 red bull seb 🥺
Good times huh
@@MadeByPerspective yeah
mate i am LIVING for this type of buzzfeed unsolved video edit
The only thing I don’t understand is despite driver errors of vettel in 2018 and onwards because except for singapore 2017, 2017 he was very good. But from 2018 onwards his pace was always very good. Even when he made mistakes in 2018 he always recovered to big points positions even making up 30s on Verstappen in Monza 2018 after his spin. And in 2019 yes many mistakes again but in racepace never seemed out of place at ferrari. So I rrally wonder why 2020 he was slow. And also how much of the old seb is still with him at Aston now. Like if we were to put true speed seb at aston now where would he bring the car. That’s what I’m wondering
Another conspiracy theory on why Ferrari sidelined Seb :- Seb exposed how Ferrari were cheating with the fuel sensors to the other teams or the FiA
Ferrari was fooled by Mercedes to sign for hybrid engine introduced. They didn't realize the complexity of a hybrid powertrain . Mercedes has already tested a engine+MGUK+MGUH+Energy Storage combo.
Poor Seb :(
At least he has 4 titles 🥳
@@MadeByPerspective and the 3rd most wins of any driver 😌
@@niklassteinhauser5191 and has multiple other records to his name
@@darkox4172 youngest world champion, and youngest second third and four time world champion too
@@pixytokisaki1457 also has the most wins in a season in 2013 (13 tied with im pretty sure it was Schumacher), Plus he actually has more poles than schumacher, youngest to do a Grand Slam (I think it was India 2011) and youngest to be on Pole (italy 08).
Interesting In 2018 Marcus Ericsson who drove in the same team with Leclerc was noticing how Leclerc was faster than him in the straights. They had Ferrari engines and I do seriously believe Ferrari gave Leclerc a better engine than Ericsson. After last qualifying of the year in abu dhabi Ericsson gave a peak "It's interesting how Charles has purple sectors in sector 2 which is 2 straights and 1 chicane".
Racing has never been fair and if there is one team who takes politics too seriously it would be a certain Italian team.
That goes to show that Leclerc has talent to carry more speeds through the corners. You guys have made Vettel a prophet of some sorts, he can do no wrong and anyone questioning him is a heathen in your eyes.
01:53........." As to why his championship dream never materialised "..............They`ve already " Materialised " 4 TIMES.......... !!!!!!
If they treated seb well and kept him until new regs this year which i always wanted to see to see how seb performed we could see another wdc its sad to think that now he has a car uncapable on pure pace for a single point
I really like your format for these videos, great source of inspiration btw ;)
Ferrari turning their attention more to Charles and giving him the big contract makes perfect to sense. He was 22 at the time and had outperformed Vettel when the car and team was favouring Vettel. The idea that Vettel was being sabotaged is a stretch as well. They would not want to throw away constructors standings bonus money for the sake of making a driver look poor and trying to justify the backing of another, when it was already justified. The reason that Seb was poor last year was mainly due to the SF1000’s lack of rear grip and balance. Vettel likes a car with a strong rear and his adaptability is quite poor. Leclerc can adapt to a car better than Vettel can and doesn’t mind a car with poor rear stability as much.
2019 was a close year
And given how many times ferrari had messed up pitstops, strategies and car having mechanical failures
Seb was on par and even ahead of leclerc
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI at the halfway point they didn’t know who to favour, hence the drama. The first 7 races of the season they definitely favoured Vettel, Leclerc was asked to move aside when their pace was equal and he was out on some bizarre strategies. After Singapore Ferrari were not managing their drivers correctly.
@@AdityaSingh-rp4mt they were on par. But given that Vettel has been there longer and Leclerc was only 21/22, you can see why they have him a big contract and shifted the momentum towards him.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI the rear was shit because of the late engine change. So they had a chassis and an engine that did not match, given them an imbalance. Leclerc doesn’t prefer a loose rear, he could just adapt to it a bit better than Vettel.
@Kuromori they’re even. Leclerc has had poor luck, that’s the main reason he’s behind.
Conspiricy or not Vettel is a great driver and a nice guy. Wish he could get a competitive car beneath him.
It's easy to blame the driver, but I feel that the entire Ferrari team needs an overhaul like McLaren after Zak Brown took over and made the necessary changes, give it a fresh 'Perspective'.
This is quality content
We were fortunate enough to have been at the 2019 Italian GP, it was an insane atmosphere. The most memorable part for us was the otherwise meek Italian housewife sitting next to us going absolutely nuts, screaming out "Charles, Charles" during each of the last closing laps.
That was the last F1 GP we attended .....seems like a lifetime ago. God, how we miss attending races. Fingers crossed for next year.
Vettel days in Ferrari were numbered when Leclerc beat him in 2019 despite being number 2 driver. Ferrari made a right choice with bringing Sainz on board. Just look at how well Carlos is doing now and compare it with Vettel's 2020 season. The fact that Vettel is not doing great at Aston Martin also speaks volumes.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI you are correct mate
Facts, Leclerc was clearly number two and took the team from under him. Still the question remains is Leclerc that good or is Vettel that bad? Maybe a bit of both?
@UCdk4vpgbFq1h50mkxJescrA He just needs beat a good teammate to prove he isn't a paper champion. Once he does that the trolls will quiet down no matter how competative or uncompetitive the car is. That has always been the question mark with Vettel, will he ever beat a competative driver in the same car?
@UCdk4vpgbFq1h50mkxJescrA I think Vettel is doing well to be honest, he’s had some bad luck this season but the fact that he got 2 podiums (If you count Hungary) shows that he still has the speed
@frosty snow Leclerc and Sainz have been pretty even in terms of performance most of this season so far. Also Leclerc doesn't carry anywhere near the same wage burden.
After learning how Ferrari treated Surtees, Lauda, Schumacher and Kimi, I am going with Ferrari sabotaging the car
- former Tifosi
Add Surtees to that list . Ferrari is a machine built to lose
@@johngriffiths118 Done. Apologies for missing John Surtees.
These videos are so well done, Im surprised you don’t have a million subscribers yet!
Remember the team compare telemetry between the drivers, Sebastian would be able to see if he is driving better or as good as Leclerc but still loosing.
Seb must be loving the fact that Sainz is currently ahead of Charles in the championship. Imagine is Charles loses to Sainz in his first year lol.
He is in very good terms with Charles. Why the fuck would he enjoy if Sainz is ahead? They are not as shallow as you.
I feel sorry for Sebastian Vettel😥
Yes...
Next Conspiracy theory why Carlos Sainz is never shown on tv
They very well need to Justify their decision of not resigning.
They would do anything to justify that
I honestly think that ferarri screwed him over completely. Sure, I think there might've been a drop off in his performance, but I really don't think it can be as severe as it was. Now that he's at a more positive team, he's doing pretty well, even if he needs to drive that tractor.
I have always thought Seb’s defenestration was a convenient distraction from fuel-flowGate.
Great decision by Ferrari as now,2024, Charles is a 3 time world champion.
I think its all Mattia Binotto who underplayed the engine regulations and didn't manage a friendly relationship between Charles and Seb. Stupidest Team Principal of Ferrari... 🙏
Yesss!!!! Finally someone said it, and the Ferrari tactics in 2019 were so wrong from the get go
While I do think he's way better now than the previous two years, there's no denying how horrendous his driver management was in that period particularly 2019 (on track anyway). But the plus side in all this is how right now Charles and Carlos are getting along fine both on and off track so I guess you could say Mattia learned his lesson from the mismanagement he made back in 2019
#bringbackstefanodomenicali
@@motorsportfanboy7769 Yeah...true..agreed!
I myself am huge Ferrari fan
@@nidhishnutakki Me too. I want Mattia to do well even if he's not my favourite. And besides, this team needs stability so we might as well keep him for a while
Nice video Siad!!!
sebastian never really got to grips since the turbo hybrid era started
Gotta say the thumbnails lately have been amazingly fitting.
The Ferrari team have shown to be unreliable towards their drivers.
Those F1 drivers that never want to drive for them are wise.
Personally I’ve found business arrangements in Italy prove to be untrustworthy.
Hey man, your plosives are still pretty pronounced on your audio. I would look into minimizing them (whether software or pop filter/etc). Great video though as always. Love your work.
There is no question about it, Ferrari definetly sabotaged Sebs final year, and it’s really not a surprise since Ferrari has been doing this since the 60s.
Yes he made a couple mistakes in 2017 and 2018 but the team didn't produce enough upgrades to the car for them to be fighting all year long..
It's ep 6 of the conspiracy perspective now also has background smoke with the horror music in the intro
Didn't Ferrari already sign Carlos Sainz before the season even began? So they already knew Seb was on his way out.
Great video honestly
But the theory is silly,just because Vettel was good in Turkey and some few races,while in Aston Martin hes slower than Stroll on average and amazing on 3-4 tracks,Ferrari didnt sabotaged Vettel ,why would they? half of the team loved him till the end and he did so,maybe he didnt like Binotto vise versa but he is struggling himself,hes not the old Sebastian in Aston also,aparr from some races,i think his performance is fading away with the current cars
Obviously there was something wrong that's the whole point of conspiracy theory to dramtize that something wrong.
@Mr Bungle Tbf the video is just satire xD but yeah I agree w/you
Stroll may be a bit faster here and there but all that matters is that his results are garbage compared to Sebastian. You’d think him being on the team since 2019 would help but nope
Seriously? Vettel is ahead of stroll by 11 points right now. Not to mention he's reached Q3 more times than stroll. He's still got it.
he has better one lap pace than stroll?
Stroll is playing bowling with seb otherwise he (seb) would have been far ahead
Top video mate, brilliant production quality
Couldn't stand Charles Leclerc initially, but now he is one of my favourite drivers. Such a nice bloke, a fair driver, a good sport and overall just a gentleman.
what a lovely video, greatly edited man!!
Seb was definitely sabotaged lol and it all relates to the engine. With the settlement they had to rework their engine and they knew they would be uncompetitive. It would be determined that the lower the f1 teams would rank the previous season they would get more wind tunnel testing for their 2021/2022 new era car. Why do you think they left him out on his own? Terrible stops, no strategy, no support, yet leclerc is the golden boy. They threw Seb under the bus even though he had brought them in over half a billion dollars to them with championship points and wins, and the most wins since schumacher. It was disgraceful what they did to him
This has shown that perhaps Binotto is a far more capable strategist than we thought. He accelerated sebs downfall so they wouldn’t have 2 number 1 drivers for 2022 when they knew they would be fast. As part of the final reconstruction of the team Seb had to go to give place for an younger number 2 driver.
What if Red Bull announced the departure of Alex Albon earlier in the season(during the time Seb didn't have a new team), was there any chance for him for his return and how that would have reflected to the title battle this year
It almost happened as well if he waited 1 more week Helmut Marko would've signed him
Prost, Alonso, Vettel these are some of the biggest names in f1. The fact that they didn't win any titles with Ferrari shows the problem within the team.
Yet they are also the most successful team in the sport. Look it all comes and goes in waves, McLaren just got their first win in 9 years after having two former world champions drive for them without so much as a podium.
In 2017 and 2018 the Mercedes was faster and more reliable. The Mercedes team was also performing flawlessly like their car. Don't kid yourselves.
They also improved the car throughout both season's. The British pundits are quick to point out that the Ferrari was superior but when you look at the progression made by Mercedes in both season's its pretty clear that Seb didn't have much of a chance against the Silver Arrows.
For me it seems, as if there is a major internal problem at Ferrari setting extreme negative pressure on the drivers. Vettel, Leclerc and Sainz are all great drivers and do/did in a fast Ferrari many more mistakes than the average.
From year to year at Ferrari Vettel did more mistakes. 2015 was his best season at Ferrari, 2017 was also very strong. In 2018 and 2019 he did way to many mistakes, but was still quick. I think he tried to force things, that were just not possible.
I think, Ferrari needs to treat their drivers better to win a championship. Mercedes showed with Hamilton how to do it.
The most realistic consipiracy theory of the series
Funny part is Ferrari keep pushing Leclerc as the star driver only for him to get outperformed by Sainz i 2021. Given Ferrari looks like they will be far more competitive in 2022, I'm really interested in how the inner-team rivalry plays out.
I have no doubt that Ferrari sabotaged Seb. in 2016, Sauber did something similar with Felipe Nasr. Ericsson got the new parts, and Nasr had to run with parts that were already very worn out. but even so, Nasr always did better.
That’s wasn’t sabotage that was limited development. A backmarker team like Sauber in 2016 isn’t able to provide new parts to both drivers at once every time a new upgrade comes in. And they’re not going to wait races so both cars are equal. Russia 2020 something similar happened with racing point. And it just so happens that the driver that isn’t leaving the next year and will continue driving for the team gets the new parts, naturally: Stroll, Ericsson…
0:32 i just noticed it’s conspiracy episode V or 5, the V for Vettel, the 5 for his car number
Vettel annouces Ferrari move in 2014: *visible happiness*
Vettel leaving Ferrari in 2020:
*Finally. Inner peace.*
They can have the fastest car but their strategy is shit it makes them seem like they got the fastest car as a Christmas gift.