im just getting into printing 3d models and wanting to paint them. your artwork is awesome and inspiring. thanks to you, I now know where to start with testing washes instead of buying them.
I liked the results on the soap and folkart paint just as well. More than good enough for me. Cant believe I only gound your channel recently. I love watching videos with this type of crafting. You make it look so easy and its satisfying to watch. New sub ✅
I see this so good for scenery like porous rocks. But what about action figures? Not miniatures, but something like 8” or so. Would this be suitable for textures in figures?
As a major suggestion, replace the india ink with acrylic inks, they tend to be cheaper and have fewer issues with a lot of other things...acrylic inks also work rather well as airbrush paints without much need for thinning if any there.
Great video. Question for you, I did a wash on a larger piece today and got some white residue. I read it could be that I should use distilled water? Do you have any recommendations on what to do/fix the white residue? Thanks!
I make LPS videos and your tutorials are perfect for my new series! (Its a fantasy, supernatural.. etc. series) I hope you're going to continue posting! 👏 And thanks a lot!!
Hi, question for you, I saw a video where a wash is applied and then cleaned the extra unwanted wash with 91% alcohol in a towel or cloth and I been doing that for my action figures, but will the same apply here if I use any of these washes? I don't do miniature terranes, only action figures so I'm curious if the alcohol will messed with the mixture or soap or the flow improver
I get that you have called your more expensive product combo - a “premium” because of price…..but holy! Acrylic vs the standard ink ( which is what you’re using ) ..,where Acrylic is the quality product - every single time!! It comes down to what’s is providing the colour to each of your mixes. Acrylic is pretty much 100% going to be a Pigment and the Ink will be using a Dye. Although using dye to provide the colour has its uses, you have to remember one big thing. Dyes are incredibly susceptible to fading . So much that black ink can go from dead black to barely being noticeable. It fades so much and so fast that it can actually disappear on the work. In a consistently daily lit studio, I’ve seen it disappear in 3 months. These dyes just really don’t hold up to any well lit environment. Pigments are a totally different thing. These days it’s pretty hard to find acrylic paint, where the pigment used matches or is worse than a dye when it comes to sensitivity to light. And “pigments” are the key to that stability. So you can have an ink wash that you paid more for the parts of it ( mainly the liquitex flow release - a product that’s totally worth it) - and it may even behave slightly than your first mix of wash. But, dude, what good is it if it just changes it’s appearance over less than a year removing the effect that you paid for - and ends up just going away? If you love using ink for whatever reason, buy a pigmented ink. Make sure it says it on the label. And an acrylic ink would be incredibly better. Slightly more expensive - likely. But it’ll be there 6 months or 20 years from now. And because it’s acrylic, you’ll be able to do different effects on top of that dried wash and never accidentally wipe it off. Most scenery and gaming will have good lighting over it to enhance its appearance and gameplay. But if it’s ink on that mini or scenery, that awesome lighting will be fading that nice ink wash effect you’ve done on it just much more quickly. As much as I used ink in my washes a long time ago, I’ll never use it now. I’ve also taught painting as my job, for 33 years. So I’ve got some time to look back upon even if it’s to shake my head. Forget the ink. Choose a pigmented ink or an acrylic ink if you must. Save the work that you are so happy with. Cheers
Here is the original video from Black Magic Craft. Fantasy Forge is a great channel but it is always important to give the originators credit and link to there videos.....th-cam.com/video/IokSYHu58V8/w-d-xo.html
Then you should credit earlier well known videos from Luke's APS (aka Geek Gaming Scenics) from 2017 or even Mel the Terrain Tutor's OG video from 2015. There's no plagiarism here, and neither Jeremy is one. It's just well known recipes from the community that YT channels with a strong following end up filming because everyone's asking them about it. If it's worth making, it's worth repeating it, nobody's getting swindled by spreading the knowledge and making the community bigger than it was.
I like you videos but....... So far all you have been doing is remaking Jeremy's videos from Black Magic Craft. I mean they are nearly identical. I understand you are inspired by him but you should be making your own totally unique content.
I appreciate the feed back. There is undoubtedly going to overlap of subject in tutorials for every single thing imaginable on youtube. I certainly don't go and copy BMC's videos intentionally. I base my tutorials off of the most frequently asked questions or requests I get from my audience. I also have followers that don't follow BMC. I think saying that my content is identical and implying I'm unoriginal is a little unfair as I have many tutorials/builds that are. And those that are maybe not as original, have a unique approach or technique. I will continue to try and create content that is helpful, informative and original:)
@@FantasyForgeMiniatures Watched them both and don’t find his assessment to be accurate. IMO This isn’t a ripoff it’s two tutorials that use different ingredients to produce similar results, but painting tabletop stuff isn’t a cornucopia of labyrinthine alcoves filled with forbidden knowledge to begin with, hence the overlap you mentioned. I appreciate that I now have two different recipes and pros and cons to go with them, so thank you, keep making good tutorials!
@@FantasyForgeMiniatures agreed, and even if it was identical (which it isn't) info, I'd appreciate your style, sense of humor, and not openly associating with black magic as a preferred alternative.
Thank you for making this video and thank you even more for making this channel !!
That premium wash looked good enough to use on minis.
OMG thank you I've been looking for a way to make good washes! You're a life saver
So glad I could help! :)
Great idea to use the spray
im just getting into printing 3d models and wanting to paint them. your artwork is awesome and inspiring. thanks to you, I now know where to start with testing washes instead of buying them.
Cereal box card for basing??? How in the world did you prevent the base from warping as the PVA/ModPodge dried and shrank?
Thank you! I’m about to a tables worth of terrain and already have both ingredients for both washes, great explanation!
I liked the results on the soap and folkart paint just as well. More than good enough for me. Cant believe I only gound your channel recently. I love watching videos with this type of crafting. You make it look so easy and its satisfying to watch. New sub ✅
I see this so good for scenery like porous rocks. But what about action figures? Not miniatures, but something like 8” or so. Would this be suitable for textures in figures?
This is the BEST. super helpful, you made a subscriber out of me!
Was looking for some more homecooked recipes for painting; saw craft paints in the backgound; SUBSCRIBED!
What a #()*$&@ banging tutorial. I'm going to follow you for most of my mini and build needs :)
As a major suggestion, replace the india ink with acrylic inks, they tend to be cheaper and have fewer issues with a lot of other things...acrylic inks also work rather well as airbrush paints without much need for thinning if any there.
I am a beginner DM in rpg and I make cool maps thanks to you, I'm also french and I find you very understandable, so thank you !!!
A spray wash?! Your a genius!!! Thank you
I like how he just low keys makes a 'demo/throwaway' scatter terrain I'd pay money for. lol
Question, can you paint over the wash after its dry? Does the dishsoap prevent new paint from sticking?
I’d like to see the paint based wash with the flow aid instead of Dawn.
Going to invest in a couple mister bottles!
you got steady hands, dude. I'd spill all over the cutting mat!
Great video. Question for you, I did a wash on a larger piece today and got some white residue. I read it could be that I should use distilled water? Do you have any recommendations on what to do/fix the white residue?
Thanks!
The cheap way version looks a bit more worn out and weathered. Will have to try this out with regular minis.
Would the flow aid work well enough with the paint and water. Instead of the dish soap or is it best kept to the ink
Looks damn amazing dude.
Sir, you save my pocket. Thanks. 🙏🏻
Great video! Could one use this as a brush on application or would it settle in the same it is sprayed on?
Yes you can.
I’ve also found better results using distilled water.
great tip!:)
Will it work on plastic figure?
Like joytoy
Would you recommend setting up a a paint booth?
Having a back drop to catch overspray is a great idea! its not pressurized spray so the overspray in very minor but always a great idea:)
I make LPS videos and your tutorials are perfect for my new series! (Its a fantasy, supernatural.. etc. series)
I hope you're going to continue posting! 👏 And thanks a lot!!
Thats awesome and thanks so much! also you are welcome and I will:)
So the idea is to add a little drop of dishwasher on my wet palette, mix my paint with it and water and that's it ??
What size bottles are you using
Well, now I'm curious how it would turn out using flow aid in the paint and dish soap in the ink? 🤔
Hi, question for you, I saw a video where a wash is applied and then cleaned the extra unwanted wash with 91% alcohol in a towel or cloth and I been doing that for my action figures, but will the same apply here if I use any of these washes? I don't do miniature terranes, only action figures so I'm curious if the alcohol will messed with the mixture or soap or the flow improver
Thank you
Sucks TH-cam didn’t show me this when you upload but late then never
Aww I'm sorry:/ even with the bell notification?
Use an oil wash. It’s best cheap wash in existence.
Cheap wash takes it. Difference with premium not enough to justify price, especially on terrain.
you put a black wash on a black based terrain piece. What does it look like on a lighter based/colored item, say a white based object.
any paint or like oil based or acrlic
Can i use acrylic paints that are meant for canvas? Or do i need specific ink/paint?
I have some "homemade washes" using acrylics. Very cheap acrylics actually, and they works pretty well.
What about for LARGE minis? xD I have a Roc I have to paint and I'm DREADING the shading part
hahaha well honestly the premium wash is on par with the pre-made washes:) you could totally use it!:)
how much water (ml) you add roughly?
How many ml are these bottles ?
I liked the cheap wash better
Why don't you mix your own high quality wash for minis? Wouldn't that give you more control to get exactly what you want?
I can’t like the video, but thank you. Great short vid.
thanks so much:)
Cheap wash is better
:)
I get that you have called your more expensive product combo - a “premium” because of price…..but holy! Acrylic vs the standard ink ( which is what you’re using ) ..,where Acrylic is the quality product - every single time!! It comes down to what’s is providing the colour to each of your mixes. Acrylic is pretty much 100% going to be a Pigment and the Ink will be using a Dye. Although using dye to provide the colour has its uses, you have to remember one big thing. Dyes are incredibly susceptible to fading . So much that black ink can go from dead black to barely being noticeable. It fades so much and so fast that it can actually disappear on the work. In a consistently daily lit studio, I’ve seen it disappear in 3 months.
These dyes just really don’t hold up to any well lit environment. Pigments are a totally different thing. These days it’s pretty hard to find acrylic paint, where the pigment used matches or is worse than a dye when it comes to sensitivity to light. And “pigments” are the key to that stability. So you can have an ink wash that you paid more for the parts of it ( mainly the liquitex flow release - a product that’s totally worth it) - and it may even behave slightly than your first mix of wash. But, dude, what good is it if it just changes it’s appearance over less than a year removing the effect that you paid for - and ends up just going away? If you love using ink for whatever reason, buy a pigmented ink. Make sure it says it on the label. And an acrylic ink would be incredibly better. Slightly more expensive - likely. But it’ll be there 6 months or 20 years from now. And because it’s acrylic, you’ll be able to do different effects on top of that dried wash and never accidentally wipe it off. Most scenery and gaming will have good lighting over it to enhance its appearance and gameplay. But if it’s ink on that mini or scenery, that awesome lighting will be fading that nice ink wash effect you’ve done on it just much more quickly. As much as I used ink in my washes a long time ago, I’ll never use it now. I’ve also taught painting as my job, for 33 years. So I’ve got some time to look back upon even if it’s to shake my head. Forget the ink. Choose a pigmented ink or an acrylic ink if you must. Save the work that you are so happy with.
Cheers
…acrylic / an artist Flow Release product / and water = best option
don't do l shapes
Here is the original video from Black Magic Craft. Fantasy Forge is a great channel but it is always important to give the originators credit and link to there videos.....th-cam.com/video/IokSYHu58V8/w-d-xo.html
Then you should credit earlier well known videos from Luke's APS (aka Geek Gaming Scenics) from 2017 or even Mel the Terrain Tutor's OG video from 2015. There's no plagiarism here, and neither Jeremy is one. It's just well known recipes from the community that YT channels with a strong following end up filming because everyone's asking them about it. If it's worth making, it's worth repeating it, nobody's getting swindled by spreading the knowledge and making the community bigger than it was.
I like you videos but....... So far all you have been doing is remaking Jeremy's videos from Black Magic Craft. I mean they are nearly identical. I understand you are inspired by him but you should be making your own totally unique content.
I appreciate the feed back. There is undoubtedly going to overlap of subject in tutorials for every single thing imaginable on youtube. I certainly don't go and copy BMC's videos intentionally. I base my tutorials off of the most frequently asked questions or requests I get from my audience. I also have followers that don't follow BMC. I think saying that my content is identical and implying I'm unoriginal is a little unfair as I have many tutorials/builds that are. And those that are maybe not as original, have a unique approach or technique. I will continue to try and create content that is helpful, informative and original:)
@@FantasyForgeMiniatures Watched them both and don’t find his assessment to be accurate. IMO This isn’t a ripoff it’s two tutorials that use different ingredients to produce similar results, but painting tabletop stuff isn’t a cornucopia of labyrinthine alcoves filled with forbidden knowledge to begin with, hence the overlap you mentioned. I appreciate that I now have two different recipes and pros and cons to go with them, so thank you, keep making good tutorials!
@@FantasyForgeMiniatures agreed, and even if it was identical (which it isn't) info, I'd appreciate your style, sense of humor, and not openly associating with black magic as a preferred alternative.
Underrated Channel🤌🏻
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