Economic Inequality/Injustice IRL is bad, but in EVE it is illustrative. The fact that it made you feel and act this way IS A GOOD THING, because you brought you to the conclusion that you don't want to live that way. Maybe memeifying this thought is worthwhile: Kids: Mom, can we have Economic Inequality? Mom: We have Economic Inequality at home Economic Inequality at home: EVE With that thought... I think you should sell your blueprints to someone you feel might be as impressionable as you. Pass on the thought virus that led you to being a leftist. (I don't play eve lol)
This was an incredible story and video. Extremely well written and put together, turning some mundane economics and business into interesting and literally life changing video.
Eve online taught me that when you have lots of people and corporations mining, manufacturing, buying and selling, prices are far more manageable with that type of competition. Its great for a single corporation who controls a market when there's no competition, not so great for everyone else
@@SardonicSays btw if you would in fact be open to the idea of making me a eve oligarch/rat, i would be more than happy to hold onto one of those t2 bpo's hahaha
I have to refute the idea that we live in a free market capitalist state. We don't we live in a series of artificially enforced monopolies and oligopolies and all the other opolies. The hoops a new business has to jump through today is obscene compared to the hoops they had to jump through in the past, and many old businessess get additional grandfathered in, looser clauses and restrictions on things
I regret that with your other commentary that you didn't mention the t20 scandal with relation to the blueprint lottery being rigged to benefit one of the original super powers
Yeah, that definitely crossed my mind in the making of the video. There are a lot of other things I might put together for a follow up someday, particularly the T20 incident and the rise of the CSM, certain groups getting insider information early that was important to completing in game events before anyone else, and the POS reactant exploit where a massive portion of the t2 component market was being propped up with exploited reactants. There really is no end to the things that went on in EVE!
I started off thnking that but I reckon in the end it was the right choice, and probably would have taken away from the intimacy of this story. Which owns, btw, fantastic work.
Thank you so much. I played eve for a few months a few years ago but never had any friends irl who played and struggled to find common ground with players in game so I gave up despite falling in love with the tension of flying around wormholes and nulsec under cloak and not really having much of a clue what I was doing. You seem like the kind of decent leftist I'd hoped might be lurking in there but never really found. Your story about running the BPOs immediately brought back gut memory of playing the game! Visceral. I was surprised I actually watched the whole thing tbh but I'm glad I did. Thanks again.
Have you ever tried to create a workers co-op in eve? Or other communal or mutual anti-corps? I'll gladly have a go at being the rat if it means I can raise the resources for giving it a go... 😉
Hey, I recently started playing eve again a month ago as I accidentally stumbled across a corp advert on reddit for leftists, LGBTQ+ and female identifying players. Would you be interested in joining? Or helping us out??
On one hand this explanation now exists for everything I had to read from the wiki, on the other hand I can't for the life of me force myself to not think of the politics in this as superficial
Great video, thank you! And I’d like to point out what you I didn’t understand. In the end, you said you vaulted BPO’s, meaning them never to be used again. Translating this to the real world plain, I understand this as you saying that you would (and I read this as “should”) put aside the economic privileges to never use those in the competition against those who don’t possess such an advantage. But. Am I delusional, or is such an advantage not the actor, but the tool? And, in this case, it can be used, in this example, to distribute the same stuff, but more cheap, because it’s cheaper in production? Just like real-life advantages, like education, or possessions, can give the opportunity to make some things more affordable to other people? Concluding this question, would it be correct if I’d say that one of your points was, that the levelled competition is more important to society, than affordability of the goods produced in this competition?
Correct. In the context of the game I would prioritize letting other people have the gameplay enjoyment of making the goods rather than lowering the absolute cost of the goods. Which, granted, there is something to be said for keeping the price low so more people have access to it, but I'm coming at this from the manufacturing side.
Very interesting tale of your journey of self awareness and how your economic prowess turned into a snowball of ever-growing greed. In my opinion, this more closely portrays a story of imperialistic nature rather than capitalistic, although both do share many of the same characteristics. What a time to be alive in Eve back in the day. I wish I had found the game much earlier on.
I've never played Eve online. The closest experience I've had online is chopping trees in Runescape! This is an incredibly in depth video about online economies though, I love it!
gamer my boy it's hinor again it's been so long. Love to see how much of an impact that time made on all of us. Lets reconnect man! Sam Bahu is the name irl find me if you got social media brother!
Economic Inequality/Injustice IRL is bad, but in EVE it is illustrative. The fact that it made you feel and act this way IS A GOOD THING, because you brought you to the conclusion that you don't want to live that way. Maybe memeifying this thought is worthwhile:
Kids: Mom, can we have Economic Inequality?
Mom: We have Economic Inequality at home
Economic Inequality at home: EVE
With that thought... I think you should sell your blueprints to someone you feel might be as impressionable as you. Pass on the thought virus that led you to being a leftist.
(I don't play eve lol)
This was an incredible story and video. Extremely well written and put together, turning some mundane economics and business into interesting and literally life changing video.
Algorythm, send this video incredibly far. This is a wonderful video, thank you.
I lost it at 'Neera Tanden'
Seriously, it's the most Eve Online ass name I have ever heard in real life. I half expect her tweets to start being level 2 mission offers.
Eve online taught me that when you have lots of people and corporations mining, manufacturing, buying and selling, prices are far more manageable with that type of competition. Its great for a single corporation who controls a market when there's no competition, not so great for everyone else
This has to be one of the best videos the algorithm has given me, thank you very much for taking the time to make such a greatly scripted video.
That's a huge compliment, thank you so much!!
@@SardonicSays btw if you would in fact be open to the idea of making me a eve oligarch/rat, i would be more than happy to hold onto one of those t2 bpo's hahaha
Wow this was really insightful. Thanks
I have to refute the idea that we live in a free market capitalist state. We don't we live in a series of artificially enforced monopolies and oligopolies and all the other opolies. The hoops a new business has to jump through today is obscene compared to the hoops they had to jump through in the past, and many old businessess get additional grandfathered in, looser clauses and restrictions on things
Good one.
i've never played eve, but this video was extremely good. nice work.
Eve online helped me become a communist
that's the best decision you made to not produce any more of these copies - thankfully an eve player
Extremely good video, looking forward to your future content.
I regret that with your other commentary that you didn't mention the t20 scandal with relation to the blueprint lottery being rigged to benefit one of the original super powers
Yeah, that definitely crossed my mind in the making of the video. There are a lot of other things I might put together for a follow up someday, particularly the T20 incident and the rise of the CSM, certain groups getting insider information early that was important to completing in game events before anyone else, and the POS reactant exploit where a massive portion of the t2 component market was being propped up with exploited reactants.
There really is no end to the things that went on in EVE!
I started off thnking that but I reckon in the end it was the right choice, and probably would have taken away from the intimacy of this story. Which owns, btw, fantastic work.
30:00 so one pays 3000% more to get 12.5% better yield? how many hundreds of mining time are needed to justify the added cost xd
Thank you so much.
I played eve for a few months a few years ago but never had any friends irl who played and struggled to find common ground with players in game so I gave up despite falling in love with the tension of flying around wormholes and nulsec under cloak and not really having much of a clue what I was doing.
You seem like the kind of decent leftist I'd hoped might be lurking in there but never really found.
Your story about running the BPOs immediately brought back gut memory of playing the game! Visceral.
I was surprised I actually watched the whole thing tbh but I'm glad I did. Thanks again.
Have you ever tried to create a workers co-op in eve? Or other communal or mutual anti-corps? I'll gladly have a go at being the rat if it means I can raise the resources for giving it a go... 😉
Hey, I recently started playing eve again a month ago as I accidentally stumbled across a corp advert on reddit for leftists, LGBTQ+ and female identifying players. Would you be interested in joining? Or helping us out??
This Video got me hooked instantly. Really well made
On one hand this explanation now exists for everything I had to read from the wiki, on the other hand I can't for the life of me force myself to not think of the politics in this as superficial
Cool story, mine's not so interesting, just gate campsters left and right, only reason for me to play was the free ships ppl gave me.
Great video, thank you! And I’d like to point out what you I didn’t understand. In the end, you said you vaulted BPO’s, meaning them never to be used again. Translating this to the real world plain, I understand this as you saying that you would (and I read this as “should”) put aside the economic privileges to never use those in the competition against those who don’t possess such an advantage. But. Am I delusional, or is such an advantage not the actor, but the tool? And, in this case, it can be used, in this example, to distribute the same stuff, but more cheap, because it’s cheaper in production? Just like real-life advantages, like education, or possessions, can give the opportunity to make some things more affordable to other people? Concluding this question, would it be correct if I’d say that one of your points was, that the levelled competition is more important to society, than affordability of the goods produced in this competition?
Correct. In the context of the game I would prioritize letting other people have the gameplay enjoyment of making the goods rather than lowering the absolute cost of the goods. Which, granted, there is something to be said for keeping the price low so more people have access to it, but I'm coming at this from the manufacturing side.
It's always nice to come across a 'new' youtuber like yourself and watch the older content up the new stuff.
I appreciate the hell out of that, thank you for checking out the back catalogue!
This video was excellent on both an Eve level and a general political level. In 2024 it’s very relevant. Please make more Eve videos! Cheers
Very interesting tale of your journey of self awareness and how your economic prowess turned into a snowball of ever-growing greed. In my opinion, this more closely portrays a story of imperialistic nature rather than capitalistic, although both do share many of the same characteristics. What a time to be alive in Eve back in the day. I wish I had found the game much earlier on.
I've never played Eve online. The closest experience I've had online is chopping trees in Runescape! This is an incredibly in depth video about online economies though, I love it!
Holy hell, this has just 1k views? Seems like I found a real hidden gem
gamer my boy it's hinor again it's been so long. Love to see how much of an impact that time made on all of us. Lets reconnect man! Sam Bahu is the name irl find me if you got social media brother!
Holy shit howdy! I'll have to hit you up!
Wealth doesnt come from tech jobs. or this job or that job. Wealth comes from Owning. Business or stocks or what not.