@@yasirrakhurrafat1142 So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all if islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
@@johnzuma4688 bruhh.. I'm Muslim. I never said islam is right. Or good. I said people who are unwilling to be pedoos, jihaadis, murderrers, and discriminators.. are the biggest enemy of Islam. Dumassse.. I've read a Qur'an 5/6 of the way through (in arabic.. ). Became monotonous to me. Plus I don't understand Arabic, just read and pronounce the stuff. I'm aware of the verses you mentioned though. Because of people who criticize it. But what will you do about the 2 billion people who are followers of that regime? And the ones (westerners) who.. while aware of the aspects of Islam (pedophilliyae, conquest, female oppressin, discrimination, dictatorship), convert to Islam? Nothing. But look at the sheer amount of people.. who are of such filth and remain in shock. Cuz they are a majority. And you can do nothing about it.
@@johnzuma4688quran 33:50 is not adultry ! It is that Allah give permission to prophet for marriage!! And aisha r.a is physically and mentally mature and she is adult when she consumate her marriage and she already passes her puberty and she is happy in her full life and there is only one quran in whole world !there are different qirats that have same meaning and all are came from Allah ! but you don't know about that thing because you r learning wrong information from islamophobs!! Come and see Dawah over dunia and see fareed respond and see Dawah wise and ask your doubts about islam !! !!!
Extremists of a peaceful religion would be extremely peaceful. Extremists of a violent, intolerant, terror inducing religion would be extremely violent, intolerant, and terror inducing. So islam is which?
@@timetoreason181 This John is well known, he was disciple of Jesus and he was an eye-witness of Jesus dying on the cross. Strange that you are so ignorant that you do not even know that little bit.
Apostasy in Christianity carries a death penalty? Yes it's mentioned several times in the Old Testament and this may trouble many Christians causing them to lose their faith. You're observation @ 2:30 that 'Christians no longer enforce this rule' is not entirely correct. Jesus said, 'I have not come to abolish the Law (of Moses) but to fulfill it.' In fact Jesus amplified the Law when He said 'If you look at a women lustfully, you have commuted adultery. The penalty for adultery is death by stoning. Let's look at how Jesus dealt with this death penalty in John 8:3-11 as follows:- The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.” So yes apostasy carries the death penalty in Christianity but only Jesus has the right to carry out the sentence because He is sinless. Christian apostates may be going round commuting blasphemies but they will face their fate on Judgement Day.
@@SillyCatGoofy you believe Jesus is God. Jesus is God of Moses. Jesus gave old testament to Moses... And you don't believe old testament... You don't believe your God. 😂😂💯☑️☑️
Much of the Bible is history, telling what God's people did. It is the difference between descriptive and prescriptive - telling about something vs telling people what to do. It is not handed down from God as Muslims believe about the Quran. That's why they claim the "Torah" and the "Injeel" are lost because what we have is not the books God supposedly gave to Moses and Jesus. There never were such books, it is a fantasy, as is the Quran.
Harris Sultan participated on a panel discussion with Daniel Haqiqatjou. Harris literally stopped talking and just let Daniel speak for the remaining time. Daniel's answers made Islam look so bad that Harris did not have to say a word. "When your enemy is destroying himself, do nothing."
You dont know about islam because you r learning wrong information from islamophobs!! Daniel is using words differently and you got wrong information by your own sence that is the issue !
@@KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193, your lies cannot change the nastyness that is in the Quran and Sunnah. We can read for ourselves. Your deception and Allah's deception cannot alter our reality.
@@exmuslimchroniclesother people being despicable doesn't excuse your own. Pretty sure you've learned that from bigots you've encountered, have you? Unless..
Mormon here, when I was a missionary in France between 2010 and 2012 if a Muslim wanted to convert they would have to get permission from the mission president specifically due to the very real possibility that they would be killed if they ever went to a Muslim country after converting
You must be very brave to try and spread the Book of Mormon to a Muslim. I know a few Mormons and a few ex-Mormons and you know what, all of them are good people. Never have I heard a Mormon wish ill upon anybody, even apostates.
The second man (referring to Daniel) is 'a lot more famous'... I take it that you meant 'infamous', haha. Anyway, the problem with these people as I can see it is that they cannot judge about whether an action is right or wrong independently from what any subject says, regardless of autuority. Such ethical system is by definition not objective. The reality is that Islam and Judaism (and I guess Christianity) were born in the ancient Near East - a place of despotic rulers where might makes right and this is reflected in their ethical views, rules and laws. For Muslims, it doesn't matter whether what God says is objectively right or wrong. I have noticed that Muslims do not even believe in objective morality anyway. For them it is subjective and what matters is what the subject of highest authority says, and that for them is God. It is a fundamentally flawed belief.
They did it for centuries. Do you reject the Bible? Stoning is the punishment for numerous crimes. If you reject this then repudiate the bible publicly!
@tulpas93 apparently you don't read the Bible to understand it. Capitol punishment was prescribed for the theocracy of Israel. It does not apply to Christians. It some Christians in history applied it, they would be going against what the Bible says.
"it is like if we execute people for liking the orang color instead if the green one. How is this logical?" Exactly! How is this statement of yours equating choice of faith to color preferences, be logical instead of a false equivalence fallacy? For someone who treats following Islam as a problem, equating that choice to color preferences really screams a lack of self-consistency
Choosing a particular faith, and choosing a color, both are personal choices and mostly harmless in modern era it's not like ex muslims are gonna murder people or something (example: ex Christians sometimes converts to Islam,and muslim people even like it), but if their world followed shariah kinda law it wouldn't be possible. It just shows that shariah being applied in this era is inhumane, negative and does more bad than good, totally impractical and unnecessary. If you think it's so much of a big deal then you agree that christians who get their freedom to choose their faith be it Islam or whatever is not a good thing. Are those muslim reverts doing any harm or harming christian people in any way? No , they are just leaving their life with the faith they think makes sense Many people leave Christianity, many people convert to Christianity as well. But they don't have any insecurities about their religion. They don't really have any issues either. And muslims really enjoy it when a non muslim from another faith reverts. But too bad they can't do the same for their own people. The religion of peace chooses to force people to act like they are muslims out of fear. Christianity or other religions letting their people convert to Islam is the best example of adapting or changing for better which Islam refuses to.And they claim it's peaceful and timeless.
@@0786AHA claim! Fact is that all those advances of the West are impossible in Islamic society. You efers spend all your creative energy to bring down others.
Hi! Thanks for your video 🥹❤️ Why do you not use your voice to narrate the video? I know I’m only one person but I would prefer it if you’re comfortable and safe to do so
May the Lord Christ continue to bless and protect you. The truth is that we don't read and apply the Bible as Muslims do. We read with understanding, they read with preconceived Dawah scripts. If those commands to kill apostates were meant for all humanity, how come even the Jews don't kill apostates today? Only Islam kills apostates TODAY because Muhammad read the Bible with a preconceived and dull mind. He thought that command was to be enforced for all time. There is no record in history of any Jew killing apostates and quoting the Bible for it.
Thanks for posting your comment! It helps boost the video's ratings so that we atheists, skeptics, and secularists reach a larger audience. All the best to you! 😊
So for those not familiar with the Bible I want to add that the reason why we don’t enforce those laws is that those laws were given by MOSES to the Israelites. God asked Moses to give these laws as a compromise because the Israelites were too stubborn to live up to the original, morally pure laws. The Mosaic laws are not considered by Christians to be necessarily perfectly moral, but simply a restraint on evil to a certain point. They are disciplinary. When Christ came he said these laws were given due to hardness of heart of the people at that time. Jesus calls us to a higher, better law and gives us the power to live it. Virtually every whataboutism that Muslim apologists point to in the Bible is from these Mosaic laws. Christians believe these are morally incomplete and overturned by Jesus. Muhammad took these dubious laws and turned them into divinely inspired law, elevating them to a standard of moral conduct valid for all times and places.
@@joshuacook402 that is about half the opposite of what I said. The 10 commandments are given directly by god and mediated by him. The mosaic laws are not. Additionally Ezekiel 20:25 does say that these laws were not good. So both yes and no, depending on how strongly you mean God sent them.
@@joshuacook402 no, because many of laws were there because of the sins of the jews, for example, when Jesus talks about divorce. Or in the old testament when YHWH gives Israel King Saul when he originally did not want it, you can find other examplles in deuteronomy too. That, and the mosaic law was meant to be more of a guideline and a book of wisdom rather than legal ruling, capital punishment was used as the highest punishment possible rather than obligatory. In the case of apostasy, it was not only the highest but it was also given in the context of israelites rejecting the living presence of YHWH(he was in the clouds, the temple, the angel) but rebelling by inciting the community to worship lesser gods. Which is completly different to islam.
Christianity is not covenant of law. Covenant of Law is bless or curse me based on my ability to walk in righteousness, or unrighteousness. Christians don't enforce it as it's not a "rule" in Christianity at all. Also in Judaism (covenant of Law, real Judaism from "THE" book), because no person has ever walked in righteousness apart from by faith in all of human history, to be able to condemn or stone anyone, except Jesus Christ. By covenant of law only he who is righteous may judge, or condemn, the unrighteous and the righteous spoke clearly when Jesus the Christ said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".. and again when he made clear "neither do I condemn you".. he who could condemn, did not.
@@tulpas93the bible has absolutely nothing to do with Islam, so he shouldn't mention it. The "Bible" is strictly a Christian document (anti-islam), the "Tanakh" is the O.T portion which the group referring to themselves as orthodox claim to follow as well as Karite. But neither are for Islamists. And neither say you can stone the unrighteous unless you are righteous which no person is apart from God.
I did watch the full video and these clips are all correct. So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all if islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
@@0786AHA Of ocurse there are some 40 different Arabic versions of the quran. Problem is that according to the islamic sources there should only be ONE version of the quran written in ONE dialect. This is the version invented by Uthman based on the version of Hafsa. You see Uthman burnt all of the qurans based on what Mohammed had recited even the one from Hafsa. And we know from the islamic sources that Hafsa's quran was incompete. Other islamic sourses tell us more than 100 verses are missing from this quran. Yet Muslims claim that there only one perfectly preserved quran. Clearly when he look at the islamic sources this is a fairy tale. I have a number of translations of the Bible as I have of the quran. Surely you know that translations do not change the original? And I am sure there are more than just 400 translations of the Bible.
@@johnzuma4688 let's just take Surah fatiha... Can you give me another version of this Surah? You have 40 different Quran. Surely this important Surah will have different versions...
@@0786AHA You want to discuss a single surah, then go speak to your Imam my friend. I have the names of 40 different Arabic versions of the quran. Personally I only have two versions of the quran in Arabic here at home. So you want to know what differences there are between all these qurans, then I suggest that you go and buy a couple of them and compare them verse by verse. The hafs quran, the warsh quran and the al doori quran are the most popular of all these different versions. Why do you not buy a copy of each and compare them. Judging from the two quran I have you do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between them. But as you asked. Hafs quran in surah 1:4 uses the word “owner” and this verse in the warsh quran is surah 1:3 and uses the word “king”. Logically not all owners are kings and of course kings are not the owner of everything. So here we have a difference in meaning which makes the warsh quran a different version of the quran to the hafs quran. You should ask your Imam to explain that to you. And of course there is still the question you keep on running away from. Why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to be with GOD in heaven on judgement day?
@@ricky01_ not ex-chritian TH-cam channel right, do you get it yet or no, they make a business just with the word ex-muslim and they are obsess with it
@@stoic12343 There are not many Ex christian channel because leaving christianity is not punishable by death in any country.They dont get get beaten by christians.And Muslims becoming millionairs by selling islamic dawah
@@johnzuma4688 when your Bible says the same thing you shouldn't be lighting a fire living in a matchbox.... That's obvious. Perhaps you should start with kindergarten education again. Good day. 🥱💯☑️☑️☑️
@@0786AHA Thank you for your comment my friend. You say >> when your Bible says the same thing you shouldn't be lighting a fire living in a matchbox....
I agree, honesty is Islam's worst enemy..
Unwillingness to follow it is.
You think all islam practitioners are decieved ? They practise it. Knowing well their and it's true nature.
@@yasirrakhurrafat1142 - EXACTLY. TBN: th-cam.com/video/Z3d21HayXUU/w-d-xo.html
@@yasirrakhurrafat1142 So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all if islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
@@johnzuma4688 bruhh..
I'm Muslim.
I never said islam is right.
Or good.
I said people who are unwilling to be pedoos, jihaadis, murderrers, and discriminators.. are the biggest enemy of Islam.
Dumassse..
I've read a Qur'an 5/6 of the way through (in arabic.. ). Became monotonous to me.
Plus I don't understand Arabic, just read and pronounce the stuff.
I'm aware of the verses you mentioned though.
Because of people who criticize it.
But what will you do about the 2 billion people who are followers of that regime?
And the ones (westerners) who.. while aware of the aspects of Islam (pedophilliyae, conquest, female oppressin, discrimination, dictatorship), convert to Islam?
Nothing.
But look at the sheer amount of people.. who are of such filth and remain in shock.
Cuz they are a majority.
And you can do nothing about it.
@@johnzuma4688quran 33:50 is not adultry ! It is that Allah give permission to prophet for marriage!! And aisha r.a is physically and mentally mature and she is adult when she consumate her marriage and she already passes her puberty and she is happy in her full life and there is only one quran in whole world !there are different qirats that have same meaning and all are came from Allah ! but you don't know about that thing because you r learning wrong information from islamophobs!! Come and see Dawah over dunia and see fareed respond and see Dawah wise and ask your doubts about islam !! !!!
Dude! 224 subs?!? You deserve so much more!
Not anymore! Pushing 10 K. Great job!❤
I actually watched the full podcast these clips are taken from, nothing is taken out of context. Idk why we keep tolerating such an extreme religion.
This is awesome! Thank you.
Extremists of a peaceful religion would be extremely peaceful. Extremists of a violent, intolerant, terror inducing religion would be extremely violent, intolerant, and terror inducing.
So islam is which?
Without lies Islam dies
Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to Heaven!!! John 14:6. ❤❤❤
Who is this John, anyone knows about him/her/it/they?
@@timetoreason181 This John is well known, he was disciple of Jesus and he was an eye-witness of Jesus dying on the cross. Strange that you are so ignorant that you do not even know that little bit.
@@johnzuma4688 gospel of John is a forgery.... Search it. It's been debunked. It's not the same apostle. 💯☑️☑️☑️
@@johnzuma4688Jesus Christ peace be upon him was never crusified !
@@KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 My friend, all the evidence there is shows that Jesus did die on the cross. So this proves that the quran is false.
Apostasy in Christianity carries a death penalty? Yes it's mentioned several times in the Old Testament and this may trouble many Christians causing them to lose their faith. You're observation @ 2:30 that 'Christians no longer enforce this rule' is not entirely correct. Jesus said, 'I have not come to abolish the Law (of Moses) but to fulfill it.' In fact Jesus amplified the Law when He said 'If you look at a women lustfully, you have commuted adultery. The penalty for adultery is death by stoning. Let's look at how Jesus dealt with this death penalty in John 8:3-11 as follows:-
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
So yes apostasy carries the death penalty in Christianity but only Jesus has the right to carry out the sentence because He is sinless. Christian apostates may be going round commuting blasphemies but they will face their fate on Judgement Day.
So Christians dont believe in the bible as Gods word... is that what you are telling me?
Solo el nuevo testamento, el antiguo testamento no es necesario para nosotros.
@@SillyCatGoofy you believe Jesus is God. Jesus is God of Moses. Jesus gave old testament to Moses... And you don't believe old testament... You don't believe your God. 😂😂💯☑️☑️
The video is about islam my friend, so why are so desperately trying to change the subject? Are you so ashamed of the lies told in islam?
@@johnzuma4688 there are no lies told in Islam. I am grateful to Islam. Without Islam I would be living like animals... That's not cool.
Much of the Bible is history, telling what God's people did. It is the difference between descriptive and prescriptive - telling about something vs telling people what to do. It is not handed down from God as Muslims believe about the Quran. That's why they claim the "Torah" and the "Injeel" are lost because what we have is not the books God supposedly gave to Moses and Jesus. There never were such books, it is a fantasy, as is the Quran.
Imagine equalizing faith as colour in your conclussion, no wonder you leave islam (me also leaving it).
Harris Sultan participated on a panel discussion with Daniel Haqiqatjou. Harris literally stopped talking and just let Daniel speak for the remaining time. Daniel's answers made Islam look so bad that Harris did not have to say a word. "When your enemy is destroying himself, do nothing."
You dont know about islam because you r learning wrong information from islamophobs!! Daniel is using words differently and you got wrong information by your own sence that is the issue !
Come on dawah over dunia and ask your doubts about islam
@@KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Daniel was perfectly clear, unlike your book. And now you ruin it by deception. 😢
@@KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193, your lies cannot change the nastyness that is in the Quran and Sunnah. We can read for ourselves. Your deception and Allah's deception cannot alter our reality.
@@KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 You fellows aren't even very good at taqiyya anymore. Need to get better at the gaslighting.
Daniel just mocked the poor German girl who died in Israel by those disgusting terrorist
Yeah I saw that. Despicable.
@@exmuslimchroniclesother people being despicable doesn't excuse your own. Pretty sure you've learned that from bigots you've encountered, have you? Unless..
Great job. Keep doing it, you are not alone. Thank you for giving us (ex-muslims) a voice
Wait, Daniel Haqikjew has a degree in physics? Wtf
For the university of the “lagoon”, the mental gap that he has.
Without lies Islam fades away. Please read the book understanding mohmmed by Ali Sina and follow his blog.
Mormon here, when I was a missionary in France between 2010 and 2012 if a Muslim wanted to convert they would have to get permission from the mission president specifically due to the very real possibility that they would be killed if they ever went to a Muslim country after converting
You must be very brave to try and spread the Book of Mormon to a Muslim.
I know a few Mormons and a few ex-Mormons and you know what, all of them are good people. Never have I heard a Mormon wish ill upon anybody, even apostates.
They would be better off coverting to christianity
EXACTLY. TBN: th-cam.com/video/Z3d21HayXUU/w-d-xo.html
The second man (referring to Daniel) is 'a lot more famous'... I take it that you meant 'infamous', haha. Anyway, the problem with these people as I can see it is that they cannot judge about whether an action is right or wrong independently from what any subject says, regardless of autuority. Such ethical system is by definition not objective. The reality is that Islam and Judaism (and I guess Christianity) were born in the ancient Near East - a place of despotic rulers where might makes right and this is reflected in their ethical views, rules and laws. For Muslims, it doesn't matter whether what God says is objectively right or wrong. I have noticed that Muslims do not even believe in objective morality anyway. For them it is subjective and what matters is what the subject of highest authority says, and that for them is God. It is a fundamentally flawed belief.
Irish have been fighting over the orange/green thing lol
What has that to do with followers of islam lying about islam to Non-Muslims?
Christian love.
Christians don't have this rule. If they ever enforced a capital punishment, then tney did this against the teachings of Christ.
They did it for centuries.
Do you reject the Bible?
Stoning is the punishment for numerous crimes.
If you reject this then repudiate the bible publicly!
@tulpas93 apparently you don't read the Bible to understand it. Capitol punishment was prescribed for the theocracy of Israel. It does not apply to Christians. It some Christians in history applied it, they would be going against what the Bible says.
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is your English that good?Maybe you should consider teaching English in other more liberal countries of Asia.
"it is like if we execute people for liking the orang color instead if the green one. How is this logical?"
Exactly! How is this statement of yours equating choice of faith to color preferences, be logical instead of a false equivalence fallacy?
For someone who treats following Islam as a problem, equating that choice to color preferences really screams a lack of self-consistency
Choosing a particular faith, and choosing a color, both are personal choices and mostly harmless in modern era
it's not like ex muslims are gonna murder people or something (example: ex Christians sometimes converts to Islam,and muslim people even like it), but if their world followed shariah kinda law it wouldn't be possible. It just shows that shariah being applied in this era is inhumane, negative and does more bad than good, totally impractical and unnecessary.
If you think it's so much of a big deal then you agree that christians who get their freedom to choose their faith be it Islam or whatever is not a good thing. Are those muslim reverts doing any harm or harming christian people in any way? No , they are just leaving their life with the faith they think makes sense
Many people leave Christianity, many people convert to Christianity as well. But they don't have any insecurities about their religion. They don't really have any issues either. And muslims really enjoy it when a non muslim from another faith reverts. But too bad they can't do the same for their own people. The religion of peace chooses to force people to act like they are muslims out of fear.
Christianity or other religions letting their people convert to Islam is the best example of adapting or changing for better which Islam refuses to.And they claim it's peaceful and timeless.
Very interesting
Star Trek is haram... Think about it
There is more truth in star trek than in Christianity. Think about that. 😂😂😂
@@0786AHA claim! Fact is that all those advances of the West are impossible in Islamic society. You efers spend all your creative energy to bring down others.
Hi! Thanks for your video 🥹❤️ Why do you not use your voice to narrate the video? I know I’m only one person but I would prefer it if you’re comfortable and safe to do so
To be honest I am scared to use my own voice. Someone might recognize me, and report me to the Islamic authority. Sorry.
@@exmuslimchroniclespretty narcissistic
your safety is more important than having a nice narration. keep safe
@@exmuslimchronicles
@@joshuacook402 Pretty oblivious to what many ex-Muslims go through!
@@joshuacook402This is not a place for you to talk about yourself. Try to comment on what is being discussed!
Without lies, Islam dies.
With lies Christianity is dying... 💯☑️☑️☑️
Without lies islamophobs dies !! Go see Dawah over dunia and ask your doubts about islam
May the Lord Christ continue to bless and protect you. The truth is that we don't read and apply the Bible as Muslims do. We read with understanding, they read with preconceived Dawah scripts. If those commands to kill apostates were meant for all humanity, how come even the Jews don't kill apostates today? Only Islam kills apostates TODAY because Muhammad read the Bible with a preconceived and dull mind. He thought that command was to be enforced for all time. There is no record in history of any Jew killing apostates and quoting the Bible for it.
Thanks for posting your comment! It helps boost the video's ratings so that we atheists, skeptics, and secularists reach a larger audience. All the best to you! 😊
@@tulpas93 All the best to you too!
So for those not familiar with the Bible I want to add that the reason why we don’t enforce those laws is that those laws were given by MOSES to the Israelites. God asked Moses to give these laws as a compromise because the Israelites were too stubborn to live up to the original, morally pure laws. The Mosaic laws are not considered by Christians to be necessarily perfectly moral, but simply a restraint on evil to a certain point. They are disciplinary.
When Christ came he said these laws were given due to hardness of heart of the people at that time. Jesus calls us to a higher, better law and gives us the power to live it.
Virtually every whataboutism that Muslim apologists point to in the Bible is from these Mosaic laws. Christians believe these are morally incomplete and overturned by Jesus. Muhammad took these dubious laws and turned them into divinely inspired law, elevating them to a standard of moral conduct valid for all times and places.
Thanks 🥰🙏
Are u a Christian?
So what you’ve just said is that God sent down a law that is not perfectly moral. Therefore, you believe God’s law is not perfect
@@joshuacook402 that is about half the opposite of what I said. The 10 commandments are given directly by god and mediated by him. The mosaic laws are not. Additionally Ezekiel 20:25 does say that these laws were not good. So both yes and no, depending on how strongly you mean God sent them.
@@joshuacook402 no, because many of laws were there because of the sins of the jews, for example, when Jesus talks about divorce.
Or in the old testament when YHWH gives Israel King Saul when he originally did not want it, you can find other examplles in deuteronomy too.
That, and the mosaic law was meant to be more of a guideline and a book of wisdom rather than legal ruling, capital punishment was used as the highest punishment possible rather than obligatory.
In the case of apostasy, it was not only the highest but it was also given in the context of israelites rejecting the living presence of YHWH(he was in the clouds, the temple, the angel) but rebelling by inciting the community to worship lesser gods.
Which is completly different to islam.
Christianity is not covenant of law. Covenant of Law is bless or curse me based on my ability to walk in righteousness, or unrighteousness.
Christians don't enforce it as it's not a "rule" in Christianity at all.
Also in Judaism (covenant of Law, real Judaism from "THE" book), because no person has ever walked in righteousness apart from by faith in all of human history, to be able to condemn or stone anyone, except Jesus Christ.
By covenant of law only he who is righteous may judge, or condemn, the unrighteous and the righteous spoke clearly when Jesus the Christ said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".. and again when he made clear "neither do I condemn you".. he who could condemn, did not.
This is about Islam and Ex Muslims.
How about posting a brownie recipe while you're at it!
@@tulpas93 @1:37 not sure you even watched the video.
@@tulpas93the bible has absolutely nothing to do with Islam, so he shouldn't mention it. The "Bible" is strictly a Christian document (anti-islam), the "Tanakh" is the O.T portion which the group referring to themselves as orthodox claim to follow as well as Karite. But neither are for Islamists. And neither say you can stone the unrighteous unless you are righteous which no person is apart from God.
Dear Christians, i recommend you should watch full debate:
And come back here to comment pls
I did watch the full video and these clips are all correct. So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all if islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
@@johnzuma4688 if we have 40 different versions of the Quran you should be comfortable. You have 400 different Bibles... 😂😂😂
@@0786AHA Of ocurse there are some 40 different Arabic versions of the quran. Problem is that according to the islamic sources there should only be ONE version of the quran written in ONE dialect. This is the version invented by Uthman based on the version of Hafsa. You see Uthman burnt all of the qurans based on what Mohammed had recited even the one from Hafsa. And we know from the islamic sources that Hafsa's quran was incompete. Other islamic sourses tell us more than 100 verses are missing from this quran. Yet Muslims claim that there only one perfectly preserved quran. Clearly when he look at the islamic sources this is a fairy tale.
I have a number of translations of the Bible as I have of the quran. Surely you know that translations do not change the original? And I am sure there are more than just 400 translations of the Bible.
@@johnzuma4688 let's just take Surah fatiha... Can you give me another version of this Surah? You have 40 different Quran. Surely this important Surah will have different versions...
@@0786AHA You want to discuss a single surah, then go speak to your Imam my friend. I have the names of 40 different Arabic versions of the quran. Personally I only have two versions of the quran in Arabic here at home. So you want to know what differences there are between all these qurans, then I suggest that you go and buy a couple of them and compare them verse by verse. The hafs quran, the warsh quran and the al doori quran are the most popular of all these different versions. Why do you not buy a copy of each and compare them. Judging from the two quran I have you do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between them. But as you asked.
Hafs quran in surah 1:4 uses the word “owner” and this verse in the warsh quran is surah 1:3 and uses the word “king”. Logically not all owners are kings and of course kings are not the owner of everything. So here we have a difference in meaning which makes the warsh quran a different version of the quran to the hafs quran. You should ask your Imam to explain that to you.
And of course there is still the question you keep on running away from. Why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to be with GOD in heaven on judgement day?
why don't you set a time meet face to face with Jack & Daniel ?😄
I am here to expose the true Islam. Not to debate anyone. That's why. 😊
@@exmuslimchronicles Wonderful reply
Why would that be necessary? You can watch Daniel speak to Robert Spencer.
i have no job no respect , what should i do ? daaaaaaaaa ex-muslim youtube channel
Muslim Metaphysician is literally an ex-Christian with a YT channel...
@@ricky01_ not ex-chritian TH-cam channel right, do you get it yet or no, they make a business just with the word ex-muslim and they are obsess with it
@@stoic12343You also believe apostates should be killed so of course you will troll around here
@@stoic12343 There are not many Ex christian channel because leaving christianity is not punishable by death in any country.They dont get get beaten by christians.And Muslims becoming millionairs by selling islamic dawah
well if you allow me yes, and thanks for hosting@@lifefuel12
So if the bible says apostates must die, and you say its illogical... Then you are throwing your Bible under the bus. Bible is illogical. 💯☑️☑️☑️☑️
@paxChristi123 read Deuteronomy 13:6-10... now are you going to admit that your God is a demon? Like you said? 😂😂😂😂
La biblia no dice eso...en el cristianismo no hay apostatas y no se castiga con la muerte si abandonas la religión.
The video is about islam my friend, so why are so desperately trying to change the subject? Are you so ashamed of the lies told in islam?
@@johnzuma4688 when your Bible says the same thing you shouldn't be lighting a fire living in a matchbox.... That's obvious. Perhaps you should start with kindergarten education again. Good day. 🥱💯☑️☑️☑️
@@0786AHA Thank you for your comment my friend. You say >> when your Bible says the same thing you shouldn't be lighting a fire living in a matchbox....