Daniel and Barbara, I know I am behind on your videos. I only recently discovered your channel and I don't want to miss anything so I am watching EVERY video you have created. You both are wonderful talented people and I am so glad I started watching from your oldest video. If you ever sail the Atlantic, you could come up the St. Laurence Seaway and spend a year sailing the great lakes on the American continent. You could then visit Ohio!
I'm glad you found our channel and welcome aboard. Binge watching is the biggest compliment you can make us so enjoy the playlist. At the end of each video we've linked the next one to make it easier for you.
What it boils down to is : You both know more about what you’re doing than any of us, as evidenced by the “exact same” questions that are constantly asked over & over…..No matter how many times you explain why you aren’t doing it. I have such great admiration for you both, you have so much patience and perseverance for both the Boat and all of us.
Must have been very nerve-wracking standing there waiting for the guy to give you those thickness reading! On the other hand what a joy to receive the 7''s & 8's!! Happy you received such good news.
Well, very good news! Old things are usually built stronger than any new parts, so renovate old things whenever possible! And yes, overplate is a fine method to repair a hull because if airtight/watertight then there is no further rusting due to lack of oxygen!
Exactly, but an overplating in this site isn't cheap anymore. So we were very happy that removing the plate did the trick. So finding the hole was actually a good thing because otherwise we would've always assumed that the hull behind it has a defect.
I love you guys, and really enjoy your videos and their content, I do hope I live long enough to see her sail the high seas Good luck Steve from London
Thank you very very much! Seeing all those good numbers was a huge relief and although we couldn't enjoy this moment because we needed to get the paint on. In hindsight it was the turning point.
Ooof ... I've had a disc disintegrate on me too ... very scary experience, I too was lucky and escaped with only bruises, but things could have been much worse :o
I agree. You can't have a story about a new boat. When you have guests on board you now have stories to regale them with. Not only the historic stories of the boat but your stories of your boat. I know its cost a lot but you two have bought more than a boat you have bought the history of a boat and also you have bought your stories and experiences with that boat and how your lives have been woven into the story of this magnificent ship. If you buy new who wants to hear a story of going to a boat shop...? But you have a story of your trials and triumphs which is so much more than money can buy.
Must of been a tumultuous rollercoaster ride until you finally hear the good news of the condition of your Ships haul. I think you've scored and it looks like you have yourself a decent boat that you can go forward with fulfilling your ultimate dream. Congrats.
Excellent video! I think it's your best to date in my opinion. It's enjoyable to see the sights and hear the sounds of the work being performed...it makes me feel like I am there. Loved the editing for the scene at 19:42 with the music reaching a crescendo right as the grinding wheel exploded. I think it also illustrates how dangerous these repairs can be. Your content is very informative as well, and I am enjoying following your progress.
Well, I think its great to have a ship and make it as you would want to have it. I know that I would definitely get some watertight compartments with marine watertight doors. Just to be safe. 3 or 4 compartments will safe a ship (do calculate it) when one compartment makes water. And get a big enough bilge pump. I dread the ocean, I'm scared of the deep sea. Yes, you can drown in a bucket of water, but the deep sea, that is scary to me. What kind of sailing rig will you put on top of the ship? Will there be one big mast, or two, or three? What will the sails look like? If you shop around, you can get cheap sail material to make sails, and if you do the sewing yourself, you can save a lot of money. I bought me some canvas from ESVO to sew me a new veshmeshok (a russian seamans bag (i saw Russian sailors with white ones @ sail Amsterdam)), and a coat ("The Frock Overcoat", The International System of Garment Cutting, by J.P. Thorton, or an "Anorak", Metric Pattern Cutting for Menswear, 5th Edition, by Winifred Aldrich (for whomever it would interest(I did upload these books actually)). Any way, the canvas from ESVO looked like it could be used to make sails while the fabric is also used for tents. Will you sail along with Sail Amsterdam 2025? Some big tall ships would be there I'm sure (of course you already know what Sail Amsterdam is (you are sailors)). 19:47, and that is why you wear personal protection like gloves, glasses, and a face shield (do wear earplugs too :) ). Well, i think I'm "up to date" for as far as TH-cam goes. Good luck! I still enjoy your videos a lot. Greetings, Jeff p.s. This is what i said in earlier comments left 3 hours ago from writing this one. Its pretty important (I think). The discs for the angle grinder from Action are very cheap, and they should work just the same. At the Action website just type in "schijf" and you will find most of the 125mm discs for the angle grinder. "Lamellenschijf" is another good disc you will need a lot. Recommended. :) By the way, i talked to some people in Amsterdam that own boats as a house (similar size/type as your boat). They told me that you cant just put a boat on the side, even when it has engine trouble, and they will send you elsewhere. That was at the "Oude Houthaven", north of "Westerdok". They did say however that somewhere around "Houthaven" new places will be created to have housing boats. So if you are interested in it, its something to look out for.
I like that you two breath new life into a boat with history! I can totally envision this boat as a great sailing boat with enough strength to keep the crew and captain safe while sailing the world!! Good luck to her sailors and crew, for now it is focus on repairing repainting and rebuilding your boat and dreams!!
We think she was originally designed as a logger and these fishing vessels were designed for long voyages. Not so much for trawling a net. So in theory Flying Coney should be a fast and good sailing ship.
Crazy project, you are courageous! Make a call to get get a few other person to join your team, maybe another couple? If you are a few more persons it will go much faster and you will even save money on the boat yards and external workers. Did you think of a junk rig on this boat? I heard they are very easy to reef, they don’t need fancy sails, they are cheap and I think they look great.
As Collin Chapman the founder of Lotus once said: "Just add lightness!". But we actually do want to remove a lot of unnecessary stuff and improve the sailing performance by using more expensive bolted on ballast.
@@FlyingConey You probably also know what Lotus stands for - Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious! I have a car made by Lotus, and you forgive its problems because it's so charming. I'm sure the same is true about your boat.
The hull condition is really good news for you both, now you on your way to complete your dreams... I'm watching all your steps of progression and look forward to your future video's.
Awesome work she's absolutely worth it...u can also scrap the plate for repairs I small spots...I'm thinking she just needed more zinc for electrical current around the water line, awesome ship and vid 👍💚
What we've thought is to make coasters out of the sacrificial overplatings. Poured into epoxy. It has protected Flying Coney for 70 years and now it protects your tablecloth. The former owner mixed two different types of anodes. Also it turned out that it's not only the material of the anodes there are also different qualities.
Hello, I have check out all episodes so far and are waiting with excitement to the next one👍 One thing I have been wondering is that the shipyard does not allow sandblasting which is understandable, but you can add sand to a pressure washer with a special nozzle, then it doesn’t make the dust but you can remove rust with ease👌
Honestly I think there was a misunderstanding between the yard and me. My guess is that they will soon start to add sand to increase the power of their pressure washer. There's hydro blasting or wet sand blasting, that's the thing you're mentioning. But there's also hydrojetblasting or ultra high power pressure washing. Without sand but with about 2000psi and it also gives a rust free surface similar to sandblasting. However they've tried out hydrojet blasting and basically covered the whole town in rust. But when I figured out that there might was a misunderstanding it was already too late. Also they do things like they've always done them, so it will take them a while to find a replacement of the beloved now also banned needle gun. And also we slowly figured out during our stay on the hard that sandblasting potentially ruins our hull. We learned so much during this few months.
40 years working at sea is though so I really think you've earned your retirement. But if you're in the Netherlands and want to help during our next stay on the hard. Maybe just bring by a coffee or a beer. It's not all hard work, the mental side of the project is also very challenging.
Belle Blonde was her name. It was a nice convertion from lighthouse ship to brigantine. More info online:" Technical data of the sailing ship - Belle Blonde".
Sometimes I'm a bit mean but if you watch the video to the end you'll see all the tension (of the plate quite literally) will relieve in a short burst of a disc.
All over the world time and wear is killing these old historic ships so it is wonderful to see you two giving birth to a new (old) sailing ship to preserve our maritime history! I have watched all your videos and am confident you have the knowledge and passion to complete this difficult task. Thank you!
I think we have the vision and it's our dream to run a sailing ship. We are willing to put in a lot of work to bring the ship back to live and usually we do learn fast enough. But we still need to grow into this project! But fortunately we found good people who know much more than we do and they help us to restore the boat.
WOW That is a big section of steel to replace thankfully its just one area. With some very good thickness measurements. Flying Coney is going to be really safe and really good looking yacht.
Thank you very much. It was more work than expected or to be precise, the work feels much harder than expected. But we powered through and I think we can be happy with the result.
Hello most likely the over plating was installed when they converted her into a sailing vessel its a cheap way to make the hull smooth and sail better or it could have been just befor they was going to sell her to make her look better than she really was .
No the overplating is much oder than 1977. So it was there to protect the hull from the cables when fishing. Also if you watch closely you can see the marks the cables left before the overplating was in place.
Not a boat nerd myself, after watching the last episodes I was worried that the hull might be too weak in places - so very good news! I am so looking forward to see you through this huge project, good going so far and keep it up!
I can understand why one can get this impression. There was a lot of welding involved to fix the electrolysis damage and with the high settings on the welder we've used you find all this little imperfections in the steel. Also rust always looks way worse than it is. But we still have a lot to do and to repair.
Nothing new will have the soul thats in older vessels, motorcycles,cars etc. And flying coney has historical roots so she should be kept up. She at one time was a sailing vessel
Great, the hull is sound, now onto the Tall Rig. Thank you so much for this tremendously interesting episode on your massive project. Can't wait for the next video.
I was holding my breath hoping you'd find a solid hull . You've got a big job but i'm sure you two have the will to make her sail again . go team Flyingconey !
It is a lot of work but we kind of knew that when we bought Flying Coney. But nobody told us how hard it is to work in an industrial environment and how hard it is to make the right decisions. In the beginning I thought it's much more obvious what's the right way of doing things actually is. Well it turned out that there are hundreds of different approaches and solution and all of them work.
Barbara, Daniel, if this is not imposing at12:35 what is that bottle that the shipwright is using to apply some liquid on the metal?? I brush stuff like blue steel or some paste to cover but I have never seen this type of bottle with an applicator. Thx. As for your question, I think one consideration is that the other ships you mentioned were converted at a time when labor was dirt cheap and that is definitely not the case today. But you are totally correct: You cannot buy a new ship with history!
It's just some gel for the ultrasonic measurements. It's the same when you or more likely a woman gets a medical ultrasound. The doctor puts on some lotion in order for the device to work properly. Actually one of the cheapest sailing ships on the market is the Jantje mentioned in the video. It's listed for 550 000€ and her interior is more hostel style. But she's a very solid ship and the lengthening started in 2019. My imagination and vision is similar to the ship Texel No6 which is listed at around 2 million. What I hope is that I get the finish of the later but at the price tag of the first.
We neither. But TH-cam completely failed and fails to connect us with a new audience. Most of our viewers are 65+ and for whatever reason our content isn't shown to other people. This is very very unusual but also explains why we have no volunteers.
You are doing things the right way. During the build you will get to every nook and cranny in, on and around the ship which is huge for confidence for around the world sailing. You are both settling into the project with you both looking more elevated as each episode comes out. An Excellent video. Thankyou.
Our worst case estimation for a working casco was about 120k including the initial purchase of the vessel. I think we're within that budget. Have in mind that we bought the ship a few month prior to the War in Ukraine and since then the steel prices are very high. So it's not that bad.
It was obvious you were both worried about the hull condition. What a lovely surprise it’s all in excellent condition. You have described your wishes for a tall ship but do you have anything on paper that shows your final hopes ? Thank you for your hard work in producing superb videos. A real rollercoaster of emotions. Stay safe.
No not on paper but since Flying Coney already was a tall ship, we know a few things. We know were we have to place the masts, we know that we have to lower the wheelhouse and the quarter deck, we do know that we want to have a wooden deck 😉 Many things are also just common sense. Look at all those similar sized converted luggers and you know what you need to build. If you look up PACIFIC SWIFT SHIP, you find a white two masted schooner. That's our vision!
@@FlyingConey Thank you for taking the trouble to get back to me. I appreciate how time is very busy for you both. Thank you for all you do and making excellent interesting videos. I will indeed have a look at the Pacific Swift. Stay well and safe.
Guys' Im loving your channel, but please be very careful with power tool, specially the small grinders. about 12 years ago, I was cutting some 10mm x10mm bar, with a thin blade. It broke and a large piece cut through my shin. After the infection, and many skin grafts, most of my left shin is missing. Be careful, Please!!!
I agree with you safety is very important and I always leave the guard on the grinder. The grinder always talks you into situations you don't want to be in. The lads in the yard are tough and they really know their job, they work with dangerous tools all the time so it's not up to me to judged how they handle their tools. I'm not a professions, they are. I'm just the guy wearing a full face shield to film that stuff.
I am so happy for you that the thickness is way bigger than you guys thought so happy yay that must be a big relief after all that rust falling off her now you know she is worth saving and begin the rebuild process and if you can afford to replace the pitting it would save the boat for even longer and that hull will be complete once and for all and will look good as well and if your fitting masts again that are will need to be strong as where the rigging will attach to the sides of the hull at the moment it's very thin there and wouldn't stand up to all the torsional pulling from the masts and sails so if you can scrape your pennies together and get that pitted bit replaced not all obviously as it would be so expensive but just where the pitting is so good look and all the best from John from rugby UK.
@@FlyingConey I won’t make it to the end of the playlist today. I’m not going to watch the new video until I catch up on the previous videos. I like to watch in chronological order to see your progress and to also watch you and Barbara evolve in the process.
That's how I also watch a new channel. When you're at the latest episode you can tell me if we're heading in the right direction. Would love to hear some feedback! But only if you want.
@@FlyingConey Oh yes I want to. I thank you for asking. It’s good to know your opinion is valued. Are you Barbara or Daniel or do you guys take turns answering these?
I don’t get it. I mean i really like your spirit, i’ve even been in the same spot with my house. I wished countless times and even now after all the hardships that i tore it all down and built it from new.
That's true but replacing hull plates, the right way would be to also use riveting and not welding, is extremely costly. So replacing the hull plates under the overplating alone would've tripled our expenses for the whole shipyard time.
No the only possibility to blast in the yard is to built a blasting tent and that's more expensive than the blasting itself. Hydrojet blasting will probably be one of the last steps before completing the hull. Right before we put insulation in. The Tercoo did a good job and the rust is not coming back immediately so that gives us time.
I, being familiar with electrolysis damage on on very old recreational vehicles and non glass lined water heaters, was convinced that your boat was... really bad. So happy for you that this is not the case.
Superb news! I nearly asked last week what thickness of steel you were working with. After all the rust scale, it is a boost for you both to have such a good result. Thank you for such interesting video's
It depends, we do want to have a bow thruster. But is it absolutely necessary? We've to takle the necessary things first and then we have a looooong list of things that would be nice to have. We prioritize the necessary things first.
Daniel and Barbara, It looks like you have finally run out of bad luck! did you check the other side to see if that was double plated as well? Well done
Interestingly protective overplating and the second bigger strengthening bar are only on the starboard side. Maybe they always hauled out the net on this side. We've not found extensive damage nor much reinforcement of hull. So we're not sure if she used beams for fishing or a pelagic trawl net.
There is a ice blaster that could be used and does a great job of cleaning off large area’s. Look up Rebuild Rescue, he has one used on a plane restoring
But dry ice is only for cleaning and not for derusting. So maybe we consider it to clean the engine but it's not for the hull. Ultra High Pressure Washing aka Hydrojet Blasting is probably the best method.
On the inside removing of the scale was more to be sure that there are no holes behind it. Since we don't live down in the hull the corrosion process is extremely slow. On the outside we used the Tercoo and it gives a similar surface to grit blasting. Although the result isn't perfect it will give us enough time to finish all the welding of the frames, make a decision about the final color and then we hydro jet blast the hull. Grit blasting will destroy the hull!
Hello . It is not a small task that you have thrown yourself into. So if all fingers, hands and eyes, yes the whole body, must be intact when the boat is finished, remember safety. I bet with , when the angle grinder was new there was a safety screen with , Good luck with the project.
I am'not a professional in boats, but I have some experience , .The hull is beautiful for sailboat, but the stern is to hight look heavy also the wheel house .You are not planing to win any race, that give you lots of room! .Congratulation from LA. California
Daniel and Barbara, I know I am behind on your videos. I only recently discovered your channel and I don't want to miss anything so I am watching EVERY video you have created. You both are wonderful talented people and I am so glad I started watching from your oldest video. If you ever sail the Atlantic, you could come up the St. Laurence Seaway and spend a year sailing the great lakes on the American continent. You could then visit Ohio!
I'm glad you found our channel and welcome aboard. Binge watching is the biggest compliment you can make us so enjoy the playlist. At the end of each video we've linked the next one to make it easier for you.
I feel your doing it right. I love watching great people living their dream. Please be safe and keep providing videos. God bless you and yours.
What it boils down to is :
You both know more about what you’re doing than any of us, as evidenced by the “exact same” questions that are constantly asked over & over…..No matter how many times you explain why you aren’t doing it. I have such great admiration for you both, you have so much patience and perseverance for both the Boat and all of us.
Well done guys! And thanks for mentioning the Tijgerhaai❤
“You can’t build a new ship with history “. I’m gonna keep that one! Well put!
Must have been very nerve-wracking standing there waiting for the guy to give you those thickness reading! On the other hand what a joy to receive the 7''s & 8's!! Happy you received such good news.
We expected 4's and 5's and just to put it into perspective welding a new plate in would've doubled our costs for the shipyard work.
In the future The Flying Coney will look Amazing. You'll be sailing her all over the world.
@22:18 folks is why you wear heavy work clothes and safety helmet with eye protection.
Great score to be caught on camera.
Well, very good news! Old things are usually built stronger than any new parts, so renovate old things whenever possible! And yes, overplate is a fine method to repair a hull because if airtight/watertight then there is no further rusting due to lack of oxygen!
Exactly, but an overplating in this site isn't cheap anymore. So we were very happy that removing the plate did the trick. So finding the hole was actually a good thing because otherwise we would've always assumed that the hull behind it has a defect.
@@FlyingConey now you can sell the plates you no longer need !
looks good and strong
I love you guys, and really enjoy your videos and their content, I do hope I live long enough to see her sail the high seas
Good luck
Steve from London
One step forward two steps backwards. Doing the work yourself makes it affordable ,great job👍👍
You are doing a wonderful job. it's a pleasure to follow.
Thank you very very much! Seeing all those good numbers was a huge relief and although we couldn't enjoy this moment because we needed to get the paint on. In hindsight it was the turning point.
Ooof ... I've had a disc disintegrate on me too ... very scary experience, I too was lucky and escaped with only bruises, but things could have been much worse :o
Your arms must be so sore and achy. Anyway onwards an forward. She is such a lovely boat.
I agree. You can't have a story about a new boat. When you have guests on board you now have stories to regale them with. Not only the historic stories of the boat but your stories of your boat. I know its cost a lot but you two have bought more than a boat you have bought the history of a boat and also you have bought your stories and experiences with that boat and how your lives have been woven into the story of this magnificent ship. If you buy new who wants to hear a story of going to a boat shop...? But you have a story of your trials and triumphs which is so much more than money can buy.
well done you two. great film.
Actually this one's my favorite so far but we've worked the whole night to get it finished.
Thank you guy's for sharing your great journey ...... i love how you bring us along for the ride🤗
greetsz from friesland...max👌👍💛
Well said, "You can't build a new ship with history."
Must of been a tumultuous rollercoaster ride until you finally hear the good news of the condition of your Ships haul. I think you've scored and it looks like you have yourself a decent boat that you can go forward with fulfilling your ultimate dream. Congrats.
Dray blast,
Excellent video! I think it's your best to date in my opinion. It's enjoyable to see the sights and hear the sounds of the work being performed...it makes me feel like I am there. Loved the editing for the scene at 19:42 with the music reaching a crescendo right as the grinding wheel exploded. I think it also illustrates how dangerous these repairs can be. Your content is very informative as well, and I am enjoying following your progress.
Well, I think its great to have a ship and make it as you would want to have it. I know that I would definitely get some watertight compartments with marine watertight doors. Just to be safe. 3 or 4 compartments will safe a ship (do calculate it) when one compartment makes water. And get a big enough bilge pump. I dread the ocean, I'm scared of the deep sea. Yes, you can drown in a bucket of water, but the deep sea, that is scary to me.
What kind of sailing rig will you put on top of the ship? Will there be one big mast, or two, or three? What will the sails look like? If you shop around, you can get cheap sail material to make sails, and if you do the sewing yourself, you can save a lot of money. I bought me some canvas from ESVO to sew me a new veshmeshok (a russian seamans bag (i saw Russian sailors with white ones @ sail Amsterdam)), and a coat ("The Frock Overcoat", The International System of Garment Cutting, by J.P. Thorton, or an "Anorak", Metric Pattern Cutting for Menswear, 5th Edition, by Winifred Aldrich (for whomever it would interest(I did upload these books actually)). Any way, the canvas from ESVO looked like it could be used to make sails while the fabric is also used for tents.
Will you sail along with Sail Amsterdam 2025? Some big tall ships would be there I'm sure (of course you already know what Sail Amsterdam is (you are sailors)).
19:47, and that is why you wear personal protection like gloves, glasses, and a face shield (do wear earplugs too :) ).
Well, i think I'm "up to date" for as far as TH-cam goes.
Good luck! I still enjoy your videos a lot.
Greetings,
Jeff
p.s.
This is what i said in earlier comments left 3 hours ago from writing this one. Its pretty important (I think).
The discs for the angle grinder from Action are very cheap, and they should work just the same. At the Action website just type in "schijf" and you will find most of the 125mm discs for the angle grinder. "Lamellenschijf" is another good disc you will need a lot. Recommended. :)
By the way, i talked to some people in Amsterdam that own boats as a house (similar size/type as your boat). They told me that you cant just put a boat on the side, even when it has engine trouble, and they will send you elsewhere. That was at the "Oude Houthaven", north of "Westerdok". They did say however that somewhere around "Houthaven" new places will be created to have housing boats. So if you are interested in it, its something to look out for.
I like that you two breath new life into a boat with history! I can totally envision this boat as a great sailing boat with enough strength to keep the crew and captain safe while sailing the world!! Good luck to her sailors and crew, for now it is focus on repairing repainting and rebuilding your boat and dreams!!
We think she was originally designed as a logger and these fishing vessels were designed for long voyages. Not so much for trawling a net. So in theory Flying Coney should be a fast and good sailing ship.
That is good news
I'm loving your videos .. I think you guys are great ..
Thank you! We just try to convince ousels that we're just a normal couple that happens to restore a tall ship 😁
Tallyhos front door was an April Fools joke 😂
And I would recommend some of my viewers to only watch our channel on April the first 😉
Crazy project, you are courageous!
Make a call to get get a few other person to join your team, maybe another couple?
If you are a few more persons it will go much faster and you will even save money on the boat yards and external workers.
Did you think of a junk rig on this boat? I heard they are very easy to reef, they don’t need fancy sails, they are cheap and I think they look great.
All that rust has done you the enormous benefit of lightening the hull, so improving sailing performance!
As Collin Chapman the founder of Lotus once said: "Just add lightness!". But we actually do want to remove a lot of unnecessary stuff and improve the sailing performance by using more expensive bolted on ballast.
@@FlyingConey You probably also know what Lotus stands for - Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious!
I have a car made by Lotus, and you forgive its problems because it's so charming. I'm sure the same is true about your boat.
You may find it funny that I built and owned a Caterham at one point in my live. The time this beast was working it was incredibly fast and fun.
The hull condition is really good news for you both, now you on your way to complete your dreams... I'm watching all your steps of progression and look forward to your future video's.
Awesome work she's absolutely worth it...u can also scrap the plate for repairs I small spots...I'm thinking she just needed more zinc for electrical current around the water line, awesome ship and vid 👍💚
What we've thought is to make coasters out of the sacrificial overplatings. Poured into epoxy. It has protected Flying Coney for 70 years and now it protects your tablecloth.
The former owner mixed two different types of anodes. Also it turned out that it's not only the material of the anodes there are also different qualities.
This is good news.
Best of luck!!
Hello, I have check out all episodes so far and are waiting with excitement to the next one👍 One thing I have been wondering is that the shipyard does not allow sandblasting which is understandable, but you can add sand to a pressure washer with a special nozzle, then it doesn’t make the dust but you can remove rust with ease👌
Honestly I think there was a misunderstanding between the yard and me. My guess is that they will soon start to add sand to increase the power of their pressure washer. There's hydro blasting or wet sand blasting, that's the thing you're mentioning. But there's also hydrojetblasting or ultra high power pressure washing. Without sand but with about 2000psi and it also gives a rust free surface similar to sandblasting.
However they've tried out hydrojet blasting and basically covered the whole town in rust. But when I figured out that there might was a misunderstanding it was already too late. Also they do things like they've always done them, so it will take them a while to find a replacement of the beloved now also banned needle gun. And also we slowly figured out during our stay on the hard that sandblasting potentially ruins our hull. We learned so much during this few months.
I can’t wait to follow your progress with the ship, keep up the good work 💪👍👌😀 have a nice Easter from Sweden 🐣🐣🐣
Still a pleasure to watch. I wish I was there to help. 40 years as seaman.
40 years working at sea is though so I really think you've earned your retirement. But if you're in the Netherlands and want to help during our next stay on the hard. Maybe just bring by a coffee or a beer. It's not all hard work, the mental side of the project is also very challenging.
See the logo next to my name...I spent 3 months on her in 1986.
Belle Blonde was her name.
It was a nice convertion from lighthouse ship to brigantine.
More info online:" Technical data of the sailing ship - Belle Blonde".
I think I found where a disc exploded at the :33 mark but the video stopped short. :)
Sometimes I'm a bit mean but if you watch the video to the end you'll see all the tension (of the plate quite literally) will relieve in a short burst of a disc.
All over the world time and wear is killing these old historic ships so it is wonderful to see you two giving birth to a new (old) sailing ship to preserve our maritime history! I have watched all your videos and am confident you have the knowledge and passion to complete this difficult task. Thank you!
I think we have the vision and it's our dream to run a sailing ship. We are willing to put in a lot of work to bring the ship back to live and usually we do learn fast enough. But we still need to grow into this project! But fortunately we found good people who know much more than we do and they help us to restore the boat.
WOW That is a big section of steel to replace thankfully its just one area. With some very good thickness measurements.
Flying Coney is going to be really safe and really good looking yacht.
You're not at the end of the video yet? 😉🤣
@@FlyingConey yes it ended up in a big hole, but it cloud have been worse. 👀😱 😆🤣😂
Hard work and serendipitous events have taken you two a long way in restoring Flying Coney. Nicely done.
Thank you very much. It was more work than expected or to be precise, the work feels much harder than expected. But we powered through and I think we can be happy with the result.
Hello most likely the over plating was installed when they converted her into a sailing vessel its a cheap way to make the hull smooth and sail better or it could have been just befor they was going to sell her to make her look better than she really was .
No the overplating is much oder than 1977. So it was there to protect the hull from the cables when fishing. Also if you watch closely you can see the marks the cables left before the overplating was in place.
fun to watch and dream big, I'd love to sail on her when she is done
I do enjoy your videos!
Wishing everyone a happy Easter!
Thanks for posting.
God Bless.
Thank you! 🐰
Not a boat nerd myself, after watching the last episodes I was worried that the hull might be too weak in places - so very good news! I am so looking forward to see you through this huge project, good going so far and keep it up!
I can understand why one can get this impression. There was a lot of welding involved to fix the electrolysis damage and with the high settings on the welder we've used you find all this little imperfections in the steel. Also rust always looks way worse than it is. But we still have a lot to do and to repair.
Nothing new will have the soul thats in older vessels, motorcycles,cars etc. And flying coney has historical roots so she should be kept up. She at one time was a sailing vessel
Now when you get a chance buy another transformer for a spare if they are inexpensive...I carry a spare starter and water pump
Practicing your singing it's like Merle Haggard is on the bridge.......ha ha ha
Lovit you guys are moving forward. Can't wait for the next video
Is there overplating on the other side of the ship as well?
Patches keep getting bigger.
It's really good to see you having good news with your ship. May all your dreams come true.
Thank you! I think we're over the worst. At least for now.
Great, the hull is sound, now onto the Tall Rig. Thank you so much for this tremendously interesting episode on your massive project. Can't wait for the next video.
good news 👏💪, it sounds like the rating at the song contest: 5,6 points, 7...the video gets 10 points from Austria ❤
10 out of 10! Thank you and 10 stars for your comment! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
sorry, the most points are not 10, but 12!!!
I was holding my breath hoping you'd find a solid hull . You've got a big job but i'm sure you two have the will to make her sail again . go team Flyingconey !
Nice video.
How long have you been out of the water at the yard?
Lekker man lekker 🇿🇦
How many cut off wheels did it take to cut that plate off?
I don't know that 😂 But we did used the blue boxes from the multipacks for the primer paint. There was always a sufficient supply of boxes for us.
Happy to see you measuring the hull!
I like old stuff. I think what you are doing is great...but it is a lot of work. I am sure it will be well worth it.
It is a lot of work but we kind of knew that when we bought Flying Coney. But nobody told us how hard it is to work in an industrial environment and how hard it is to make the right decisions. In the beginning I thought it's much more obvious what's the right way of doing things actually is. Well it turned out that there are hundreds of different approaches and solution and all of them work.
Hello from Siesta Key Florida
Hi! 👍
Love how you don’t cut corners. If it needs doing you make sure it’s right. All the best for the future.
Barbara, Daniel, if this is not imposing at12:35 what is that bottle that the shipwright is using to apply some liquid on the metal??
I brush stuff like blue steel or some paste to cover but I have never seen this type of bottle with an applicator.
Thx.
As for your question, I think one consideration is that the other ships you mentioned were converted at a time when labor was dirt cheap and that is definitely not the case today.
But you are totally correct: You cannot buy a new ship with history!
It's just some gel for the ultrasonic measurements. It's the same when you or more likely a woman gets a medical ultrasound. The doctor puts on some lotion in order for the device to work properly.
Actually one of the cheapest sailing ships on the market is the Jantje mentioned in the video. It's listed for 550 000€ and her interior is more hostel style. But she's a very solid ship and the lengthening started in 2019. My imagination and vision is similar to the ship Texel No6 which is listed at around 2 million. What I hope is that I get the finish of the later but at the price tag of the first.
@@FlyingConey Texel No 6 is indeed very nice. It is certainly inspiring!
Your spirit is very good.
Wow, great project!
I can't believe at this point you don't have crew volunteers at this point.
We neither. But TH-cam completely failed and fails to connect us with a new audience. Most of our viewers are 65+ and for whatever reason our content isn't shown to other people. This is very very unusual but also explains why we have no volunteers.
You are doing things the right way. During the build you will get to every nook and cranny in, on and around the ship which is huge for confidence for around the world sailing. You are both settling into the project with you both looking more elevated as each episode comes out. An Excellent video. Thankyou.
Flying Coney was built like a Tank! Nice to see
just wondering this phase how much did you budget for the hull? and are you over or under by how much.
Our worst case estimation for a working casco was about 120k including the initial purchase of the vessel. I think we're within that budget. Have in mind that we bought the ship a few month prior to the War in Ukraine and since then the steel prices are very high. So it's not that bad.
Good stuff guys.... Very interesting stuff keep it up
It was obvious you were both worried about the hull condition. What a lovely surprise it’s all in excellent condition. You have described your wishes for a tall ship but do you have anything on paper that shows your final hopes ? Thank you for your hard work in producing superb videos. A real rollercoaster of emotions. Stay safe.
No not on paper but since Flying Coney already was a tall ship, we know a few things. We know were we have to place the masts, we know that we have to lower the wheelhouse and the quarter deck, we do know that we want to have a wooden deck 😉 Many things are also just common sense. Look at all those similar sized converted luggers and you know what you need to build. If you look up PACIFIC SWIFT SHIP, you find a white two masted schooner. That's our vision!
@@FlyingConey Thank you for taking the trouble to get back to me. I appreciate how time is very busy for you both. Thank you for all you do and making excellent interesting videos. I will indeed have a look at the Pacific Swift. Stay well and safe.
Guys' Im loving your channel, but please be very careful with power tool, specially the small grinders. about 12 years ago, I was cutting some 10mm x10mm bar, with a thin blade. It broke and a large piece cut through my shin. After the infection, and many skin grafts, most of my left shin is missing. Be careful, Please!!!
I agree with you safety is very important and I always leave the guard on the grinder. The grinder always talks you into situations you don't want to be in. The lads in the yard are tough and they really know their job, they work with dangerous tools all the time so it's not up to me to judged how they handle their tools. I'm not a professions, they are. I'm just the guy wearing a full face shield to film that stuff.
Doing well keep up the great work
I take the ”risk” to watching your vids on repet! no problem 😊 Take care and keep on your great work!
I am so happy for you that the thickness is way bigger than you guys thought so happy yay that must be a big relief after all that rust falling off her now you know she is worth saving and begin the rebuild process and if you can afford to replace the pitting it would save the boat for even longer and that hull will be complete once and for all and will look good as well and if your fitting masts again that are will need to be strong as where the rigging will attach to the sides of the hull at the moment it's very thin there and wouldn't stand up to all the torsional pulling from the masts and sails so if you can scrape your pennies together and get that pitted bit replaced not all obviously as it would be so expensive but just where the pitting is so good look and all the best from John from rugby UK.
I’m so pleased for the condition of the hull.
Do you sink or do you think?
Sailing is about thinking about sinking and how to avoid it.
Enjoyed
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There will be a video today. You think you'll made it to the end of the playlist until then?
@@FlyingConey
I won’t make it to the end of the playlist today. I’m not going to watch the new video until I catch up on the previous videos. I like to watch in chronological order to see your progress and to also watch you and Barbara evolve in the process.
That's how I also watch a new channel. When you're at the latest episode you can tell me if we're heading in the right direction. Would love to hear some feedback! But only if you want.
@@FlyingConey
Oh yes I want to. I thank you for asking. It’s good to know your opinion is valued. Are you Barbara or Daniel or do you guys take turns answering these?
@@chuckcorris2392 It's Daniel. I'm always answering the comments here on TH-cam.
I don’t get it. I mean i really like your spirit, i’ve even been in the same spot with my house. I wished countless times and even now after all the hardships that i tore it all down and built it from new.
Looks like you'll have fun bringing the wiring up to code when you start rebuilding
We will rip everything out and start from scratch.
The hull is to far gone if you run out of time and money. As long as there is money, time and love, the sky is the limit....
That's true but replacing hull plates, the right way would be to also use riveting and not welding, is extremely costly. So replacing the hull plates under the overplating alone would've tripled our expenses for the whole shipyard time.
I do agree, old is in this case always better, more authentic!
Great project.
You two are gonna get what you want.
Good luck from UK.
Hull looks good, can't wait to see hydroblasting , well the shipyard let yall do that?
No the only possibility to blast in the yard is to built a blasting tent and that's more expensive than the blasting itself. Hydrojet blasting will probably be one of the last steps before completing the hull. Right before we put insulation in. The Tercoo did a good job and the rust is not coming back immediately so that gives us time.
I, being familiar with electrolysis damage on on very old recreational vehicles and non glass lined water heaters, was convinced that your boat was... really bad. So happy for you that this is not the case.
An interesting vlog with some difficult decisions made for the best I think. I look forward to your next step with the steel plate.
Superb news! I nearly asked last week what thickness of steel you were working with. After all the rust scale, it is a boost for you both to have such a good result. Thank you for such interesting video's
I like your comment
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It depends, we do want to have a bow thruster. But is it absolutely necessary? We've to takle the necessary things first and then we have a looooong list of things that would be nice to have. We prioritize the necessary things first.
@@FlyingConey agreed. Certainly lower priority than a lot of things.
Daniel and Barbara, It looks like you have finally run out of bad luck! did you check the other side to see if that was double plated as well? Well done
Interestingly protective overplating and the second bigger strengthening bar are only on the starboard side. Maybe they always hauled out the net on this side. We've not found extensive damage nor much reinforcement of hull. So we're not sure if she used beams for fishing or a pelagic trawl net.
There is a ice blaster that could be used and does a great job of cleaning off large area’s. Look up Rebuild Rescue, he has one used on a plane restoring
But dry ice is only for cleaning and not for derusting. So maybe we consider it to clean the engine but it's not for the hull. Ultra High Pressure Washing aka Hydrojet Blasting is probably the best method.
Just removing scale will not stop the hull rusting. Grit blasting to grey metal is best, and this must be primer coated within 10 minutes.
Agreed
On the inside removing of the scale was more to be sure that there are no holes behind it. Since we don't live down in the hull the corrosion process is extremely slow. On the outside we used the Tercoo and it gives a similar surface to grit blasting. Although the result isn't perfect it will give us enough time to finish all the welding of the frames, make a decision about the final color and then we hydro jet blast the hull. Grit blasting will destroy the hull!
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It is not a small task that you have thrown yourself into. So if all fingers, hands and eyes, yes the whole body, must be intact when the boat is finished, remember safety. I bet with , when the angle grinder was new there was a safety screen with , Good luck with the project.
Big project but it appears to be worth it.
Well this lightens the hull and once the Hull is given modern Epoxy paints it will be perfect for another 50 years.
I am'not a professional in boats, but I have some experience , .The hull is beautiful for sailboat, but the stern is to hight look heavy also the wheel house .You are not planing to win any race, that give you lots of room! .Congratulation from LA. California
Do you know the hull speed of your boat ⛴? How much sail area would you need to reach hull speed?
Man that's a lot of ship for the two of you to make a home out of but you'll definitely be able to take her to sea in any weather
Very good video 😊. Rat
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