This is one of Rorion Gracie's first American brown belts Lowell Andersen circa 1993. Richard Bressler(Rorion first American student) is also there. I was a student there at the Gracie Academy in Torrance CA at the time of these fights. Royce was still teaching there and he had won UFC 1 by then. Can you imagine the pride we had as students to be training there in those days? These were special times...
People dont understand that this is some of the most important and historical footage of MMA. This footage along with a few others started a movement that became what MMA is today.
Thats not true MMA/vale tudo has been around in japan and brazil for decades prior to UFC and gracies in action, they just introduced and marketed the sport to a western audience (brilliantly)
@@borizhAbsolutely! Through intelligence, marketing, and control of placement in the original ufc competition. They were smart and didn't allow skilled wrestling into the sport until after Gracie retired. There js a reason tank abbot and the next generation had to wait, they didn't receive indentations until the end of gracies run at the top and the world knew what jujitsu could do. They didn't fix the fights, that's bs , he win fair and square , but they did control who fought who and who competed. It was THEIR competition lol
@@famisheddendonThey brought jujitsu, but true mixed martial arts began with Bruce Lee in the west. They did make it a household name for sure though, the ufc , tge furst and original competition changed the world of martial arts forver.
@@chriswoods2128 Read the description numnuts, the Gracie challenge refers to fighting a Gracie Jiu Jitsu fighter. These are Gracie JJ fighters event though they aren't Gracies
@@chriswoods2128 there aren't any Gracies on sight ??? Are you blind ?? In the video we can see Rorion Gracie the guy with the mustache, we also see Royler Gracie and the camera man was Royce Gracie you can 3ven war them speak to Royce and the rest ware students of the Gracies. .. so I don't know what you mean by its all lies ??? Are you trolling ? ? Cause what you said , it doesn't make sense .. It's there on the video for every one to see and identify them, like I did. .
For all those watching, its good to note that one of the last guys in this video was Mauricio Zingano, a now well-respected and established MMA coach in Colorado. He is also married to Cat Zingano, one of the top contenders in the UFC Women's Bantamweight division. Unfortunately, he passed away a few weeks ago, and I request for your prayers for his family and students as they affected by his loss. Thank you for your time.
Suicide and "Passed away" are not the same. www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/1/14/5308312/mauricio-zingano-husband-head-coach-suicide-cat-zingano-passed-dead-ufc-mma-news
Brian Davis It says right at the start of the article: "Sad news in the MMA community as it has been confirmed that Mauricio Zingano, husband of UFC top contender Cat Zingano has passed away." And then right after that it said again that he passed away. I've never seen somebody send a link trying to prove their point when it proves them wrong twice right at the beginning.
T.O. McConnell Step into a cage with Khabib after your 6 months of kickboxing and see who wins, any of these guys could kill you with their hands. Be respectful.
T.O. McConnell Also it’s BJJ and I’m not sure where wrestling came into this video at all either, you seem like someone that doesn’t even train hahahahah
@Chris McStoots it was because the Gracies were the ones to say something like "Hey our art is like really strong, so if there is someone that wants to text it we are open to challenges" they wanted to show that their art rocks haha
Love all these old challenge fights. I remember renting the Gracie In Action tapes back in the early 90s and watching the first UFC. Several years later Fabio Santos opened an academy in San Diego. The guy in the board shorts (last fight) was able to stay on his feet the longest and actually shot in for a takedown. Looks like he had some wrestling experience. This is why a lot of us early practitioners started jiu jitsu. It was to learn how to fight and for self defense. I never even knew there were tournaments until after 2001. Keep on training.
I'm glad you are sharing this amazing footage with us. My entire family is against grapple and think all fights end standing. This gives me a better opportunity to prove them wrong. Plus it shows the effectiveness of the Gracie way.
Mr.CoolBottom you have to ask yourself? "are my ideas new and revolutionary or simple enough for someone else to have attempted and failed." In other words- nothings new under the sun, not saying you could not beat a Gracie but many have before you have come with the same philosophy, and better skill and still failed miserably. The best way to defeat BJJ is to Know BJJ.
Mr.CoolBottom your not thinking out of the box, your deep in a corner of the box but think you've found a secret passage. Its equivalent of a somoene saying, "hey if you get thirsty during a workout take salt pills." in other words- your throwing out i would do this blah blah blah and not stopping to realize the big picture."All of these ideas have failed!!" If neutralizing a highly trained BJJ practioner was a easy as attempting to do a knee during a double or biting- then it would have never gotten as far as it did. Everything you're saying has been attempted and failed. sure its possible to land the perfect knee strike at the moment of entry- but that window is so small with such small room for error its almost impossible- especially without prior grappling knowledge- to actually do.
Hats off to Lowell who was a 3 year Tae kwon do guy who made a fair showing with a BJJ grand master. On the other hand the Gracies show so little class by holding on extra long when these guys are tapping. Most American Martial Artist are recreational. they don't practice four and five hours a day. When the Gracie challenge was issued they were like Navy Seals beating up National Guard reservist. When the Gracies came over they were very disrespectful to other Martial artist. Royce issued an open challenge in Black Belt Magazine to Judo Gene Lebelle (a senior citizen). Gene accepted the challenge, with one little tweak, he wanted to fight someone his own age from the Gracie family so he challenged Heilio. That fight never happened. In an interview with Royce Gracie after UFC 2 by Black Belt Magazine Royce was asked if he owed anything to Japanese Jujitsu and Judo and he said "We owe nothing to Japanese Jujitsu, nothing at all!" I have video of the head of Gracie Jujitsu in France being challenged and submitted in a seminar by some French MMA guy. If you inbox me I will connect you to the website that has it posted. The sad thing about it is, after the public win, the Gracie family showed up at the bar where the guy worked and wanted to fight him. The Gracies publicly challenged Benny Urquidez, Mike Tyson (who is a Gracie Fan now) and anyone else they could use to make a name for themselves. Royce acted like a little bitch (and no I wouldn't say it to his face but you know it's true) when Ishmael beat him in Brazil and when Eddie Bravo beat his sibling. The family has acted classlessly throughout their tenure here and now they have realized that commercial gyms need a kinder and gentler image to be successful. The Gracie luster disappears very quickly when they are on the losing end of a fight or business deal. People act as if no one won a street fight until the Gracies came along but I have and many others have by the grace of God. My hat's off to BJJ because it is a formidable style and they train like they fight. But some of the Gracies have been real assholes over the years and that's just some real talk.
Is Howell the guy in the checkered shirt and t-shirt that actually put up a pretty good fight at 16:49 and the end of the video. Guy was doing good in the grappling just didn't know what to do on the ground, then the Gracie acted like a dick for beating a part time instructor. The guy actually looks like a high school/college kid.
Lowell was the guy n the checkered pants in the 3rd to the last fight and the last fight. The last Gracie fighter acted like a dick as if he tried to hurt Lowell for giving him a run for his money. As you can see in these clips they script these as friendly matches and then purposefully do things that could permanently injure people who are just trying to test themselves and train. The Gracie's need to be embarrassed by these videos. fFighting guys with guts and beer bellies or disrespecting guys who in front of his own training partners admits the superiority of their style and they act like smug duche bags.
teej It was unnecessary. I love bjj; but i was very disappointed in the way some of the practitioners of bjj acted in this video and other select times. Plus all the old videos show gracies beating up on people that lacked credentials of being what they stated in the videos (kung fu expert ect)
-got bullied at school as a kid -learned karate and earned my black belt -nobody in high school fucked with me anymore -got to go fight a Gracie -started the entire process all over again 🥵
That why u gotta learn how to sprawl man or just some wrestling and make sure the fight didn't go to the ground and beat the shit out of him but if it does let's just hope that some wrestling or bjj knowledge are enough to fight em
Karate served a purpose for you. The punches and kicks you learned in karate helped you defend yourself from "unskilled" opponents. BJJ just takes it to the next level. Nobody is "worse off" from adding an extra layer of steel to their bunker.
Last guy actually showed some very good wrestling. The Gracie Academy fighter had 0 chance of taking him down. The poor sportsmanship displayed at the end was disappointing. Prolly pissed the guy out-wrestled him and lasted so long and escaped his first arm-bar attempt.
The guy in the shorts held his own. This was in the 90's when no one knew what these people were famous for. It appeared the guy in shorts was a wrestler and did weight training. He did more than well. Rorion wasn't too happy by the looks he was giving off. Luckily they were smart and didn't fall for the trap to continue challenges.
I love how chill Master Rorion is in the background. To those challengers, this is a humbling, ego breaking, embarrassing life changer but to Rorion, it’s just another day at the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu office.
The losing fighters were big enough men to extend a hand even after losing. The winning students show nothing but contempt at the jesture. Undoubtedly better martial artists, but total Douchebags
I'd imagine after a guy tries punching you in the face and connects with a few that once you win, you aren't going to be buddy buddy.. that said, the Gracies were dicks a lot of the time.
I was there for the fights in Torrance. Mauricio was in one of them, a blue belt. Joe Pardo and Mark Burmeister, both blue belts at the time, and then Lowell Anderson (brown belt at the time) beating the little guy, who I knew. The guy was a semiconductor components broker and when I found out he was going to fight in a challenge match, I advised him not to. I even told him step by step how our guy would beat him (he was a TKD fighter). Nice guy, but sure enough he got beat twice, but then before the third time, Royce said this time, you can't tap out for five minutes. He thought about it and declined, muttering "I don't want to get killed." Royce then made the point that you got three chances here--in the streets, you only get one chance. That drove the point home. When we were in the intermediate/advanced class upstairs, and if a challenge match was about to materialize, one of the instructors would come upstairs and yell "Showtime", and we would all stop class and run down to check out the challenge fights. I was in the background looking thru the window, while Ed O'Neill was one of the few who was inside the little room to spectate. "Al Bundy" is now an accomplished black belt. I think he was a blue belt at the time also. Which made our point at the time. Our blue belts could defeat black belts from other arts because of the techniques from BJJ. Today, because of the incorporation of BJJ, martial artists are more proficient at submission grappling. I recall Danny Inosanto and Richard Bustillo's JKD students started training with the Gracies because our students were dominating them. Everybody's game got elevated
Gaucho Hoops I was there back then as well. Good times! Lowell, Ethan and Richard would teach the first classes then you graduated to training with Royce after a couple months. Always saw Ed O'neil training privates. I remember when they added the upstairs and Rose worked the new juice bar. Haha. Anyway, the training was great and was in preparation for fighting like this. Much different then how people train bjj today. I remember Royce slapping me in the face if I didn't control him properly in the guard.
Ranch Life trained Japanese Jiu Jitsu got beaten by a young Gracie when he was old and one time by Royce then he tested positive for the fight before hand he beat Royler Gracie, Renzo Gracie, Ryan Gracie, and Royce Gracie.
@@josephmiranda7047 He was a catch wrestler, shoot wrestler and trained BJJ. He was amazing and did wake the Gracies up to adapting BJJ for more effective fighting techniques, especially No Gi training. That was a shame when Royce was popped for steroids and I would loved to have seen Sakuraba fight Rickson. People use Sakuraba's wins to try and discredit the Gracies but without them we would not have modern MMA. The Gracies changed the landscape of martial arts and fighting arts forever. Even Sakuraba now teaches BJJ and Catch Wrestling. Many BJJ practioners go to train with him and the future will be a blending of the two styles for the most effective grappling techniques.
@@ranchlife8128 That mean Royce Gracie is a fraud. Taking steroids to gain an edge is cheating and fraudulent in my book. Royce was and is still a fraud.
@@edgar22452 I agree taking steroids to gain an edge is cheating and fraudulent and it's a shame so many athletes do it. To say Royce is a fraud because he committed a fraudulent act doesn't hold water. Have you ever lied? Of course you have, so by your logic it makes you a liar for all time. Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Ask anyone who has ever rolled with Royce if he is a fraud.
Where did they find these studs they took on the Great familia de Gracie with bravery and heart of a mountain tiger in the frigid of the Siberian Taiga...
19:32 is an amazing escape from a sort of neck crank or bully choke. He doesn't have great position, but you can tell he probably has wrestling, considering he used a wrestling reversal in the first round, and he has fairly good takedown defense. But look at the way he forces a reversal out of that choke with his right arm.
Love you Gracies, but the pack mentality and sportsmanship was lacking with wins here with all the pushing when opponents were submitted and offering handshakes, terrible egocentric attitude and should have worked on humility incorporated with skills
They took a couple shots to the head. As soon as the opponents gets in bad position, they give up with no or very little damage. I would say the respect is not putting to sleep, breaking an arm, etc.
Except it wasn't Gracies. They were just students, not members of the family. These students probably didn't like these other wannabes coming into their dojo to try to hurt them and show them up. They mean business, you can tell the other team was just there because they think they're fancy with their "karate". They got smoked by a real martial art.
Also, you have to keep in mind that most of these guys came directly from Brazil where this stuff happened daily. There is a different culture over there.
+Rhyan Jonestown What's to respect? Those guys are there to challenge them to a fight, not dancing. All that crap about respect is just illusion and BS for the sheisters who just want to make money. This is not sport fighting. This is about fighting and winning for real. Pure and simple.
+Rhyan Jonestown Alright, I give them the fighting skills ,but it's something sour about how they present themselves... other than that, sure there is no respect on the streets. On a side note, I think this is where the video games(maybe tekken)got their idea for a fighting stage where the dojo has a crowd of students in the background.
Yes but imagine in the street you immobilized a guy for 2 minutes another guy cracks him. Or you have a knife and jab it into his side. The point is he had en extremely hard time with an average wrestler. Royce is an elite jui jitsu player this guy prob has high school wrestling background imagine an Olympic champion wrestler in peak condition would drop him on his head. Jui jitsu is the most efficient martial art but a wrestler in peak shape is clearly a problem
There is something about these old VCR-taped videos of an underground fight before UFC and martial arts really became famous that just seems so gritty and raw. It is sweet to find these "hole in the wall" events, just underground fights, as compared to all the sell-outs nowadays. Back when men settled their arguments in three-minute bouts and not talking trash behind social media. Keep it real. Respect.
These were fighting challenges, not men settling their arguments. Men settle their arguments using reason and civil debate/discussion. Brutes and sociopaths settle arguments by fighting.
Humans are animals. Underneath every "civilized gentleman" there is a potential "sociopathic" animal. And in all honesty, I would rather have these guys express themselves through these controlled bouts instead of domestic violence, drug addictions, crime, or other unproductive lifestyles.
Ken Shiro Humans are animals, but part of our natural selection is to behave through varied forms interaction, which includes advanced communication. And yeah, I agree, sociopathic brutes need such expression. But most martial-artists are not sociopathic brutes, they're just decent guys and/or girls looking to learn how to defend themselves or how to compete in combat sport because they love competition, but not necessarily hurting people.
Fights 1 to 10: judo techniques. Rear naked choke, btw, is actually called hidake jime, naked strangle, which Gracie learnt from judo then changed the name. Just saying. If this fight is about ‘history’, for once let’s get the terms straight.
All part of the Gracie propaganda machine, there are also countless examples of Gracies getting destroyed by wrestlers, judokas and MMA fighters, and the public should be continuously informed about the reality that the Gracie brand, regardless of how it started, has become synonymous with unethical marketing, immoral conduct and delusional excuses in the face of any of their family member's many many many losses...
“With great power comes great responsibility.” - Stan Lee Sadly you see none of this from the victors. Respect to what the Gracies did for modern martial arts. But these videos are now making them look like bullies. There’s no need to promote the Gracie name in this way anymore. Their name commands enough respect. No one is unbeatable. Always stay humble, because there is always someone in the world out there that can beat you. I.e. Kazushi Sakuraba
@@javieibarra3259 Eugênio Tadeu, they turned off the lights to prevent defeat and ran from anyone that could beat them like Fedor, Marco ruas , igorvovchanchyn and many others
this was probably the best martial arts school in the country at the time. Good luck finding a jujitsu school that still teaches the right way anymore.
It’s funny, people criticizes Rorion and his academy for not entering sport tournament jiujitsu matches and winning medals. Meanwhile, his students were honing real self defense skills in actual fights. I think Rorion knew what he was doing.
Saku is 4-2 vs Gracies. He beat Royce only after an hour and thirty minutes when Royce threw in the towel. Saku lost the rematch. Ralek dominated Saku. Saku beat Royler and Renzo by technical submission IOW the neither tapped. Don't get me wrong, Saku is a legend of MMA and remember, he is a very competent grappler. He did get the best of his encounters with the Gracies however he hardly dominated them.
@@419buckeye7 I thought Saku's win over Renzo was his most impressive. He had 20-30lbs on Royler. Royler looks like a midget compared to Saku. Saku showed what competent grapplers can do when they are also well trained in striking. He was competent enough with grappling to frustrate Royce's attempts to take it to the ground, but those leg kicks took their toll. They were brutal and were set up with his ability to prevent getting caught in Royce's guard.
@@windcatcher331 yeah royler was not ready still all the Gracie's have heart and are tough as shit usually sakuraba is the one under sized I miss those pride days
Thank you to the Gracie family for debunking all the martial art myths of yesterday and showing what lethal really means...no brick breaking here but real combat. Thank you for letting us into this art. 🤙🏼
User Name no offense taken. My point and my tribute to the gracies lies in that they made their style of Jiujitsu known to the world as the baddest form of combat proven in a cage. Not maeda, nor kano. I get where you’re coming from but credit to whom credit is due.
@@hipqban169to be fair gracies picked opponents and rules. The judo proven it self when helio gracie got beated bad by kimura. They even say he cheated in kato match and got him off guard. Also yoshida technically chocked gracie too. Judo and sakuraba wreslting and sambo guys could too. Bjj is effective gracies are great fighters but they clearly set up the fights and rules also. Anyways they did it right , now they are rich in europe and usa.
Anyone saying the Gracies are being disrespectful have to keep something in mind, these guys are coming in with the intention of humiliating and hurting them, so that’s why you’re not seeing a lot of good sportsmanship... It’s not respectful to come into a dojo with those kind of intentions...
@@troopertreyy4759 it’s going great! I train 3 days a week. I got my blue belt almost 2 years ago and I’m working towards my purple. Most of my friends are my bjj brothers and sisters. Truly changed my life!
They're probably not sober. The Gracie Dudes who were fighting all acted and moved like they were on amphetamines. It's understandable since they would be taking any and all challenegers the whole day.
I only had to meet & listen to Rorion back in 1989 to know that Gracie Jiu-Jitsu worked. Then I sent all of my west coast friends to Rorion to train. LOL, I still have my Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Championship Team t-shirt from 1992! What got me talking to Rorion? We were talking the legal system in Brazil as compared to the US. I was writing Appellate Court briefs back then. Rorion was a really interesting guy to talk to and I enjoyed training with him. Great guy!
I don't approve of the behavior at 8:45. That shit isn't what Gracie Jujitsu is about... You're gonna freaking kill someone doing that shit... My favorite thing about Jujitsu is that you DON'T have to do stuff like that, you're in so much control of the person that none of that crap is necessary. I would have just tapped his head and told him "I'm elbowing the back of your head as hard as I can." So he gets the point without the brain damage...
ChamorruWarrior People seem to always forget that these gracie challenges are NOT sport bjj fights. These are intended to be real bare knuckle street fights, to prove who's art will prevail in the end. Now if this were normal everyday training that they do then I would agree with you 100%, but this isnt sparring these are real fights.
cr8tve12 Dude... You can kill someone doing that shit... But since we're going no holds bared and it's cool if someone dies or goes blind from brain damage... How can I set up a challenge match with the Gracies? I'd like to prove that the Capo Ferro system of Italian fencing is better than Gracie Jujitsu. >.>
ChamorruWarrior You're right you can kill someone or cause serious damage.. but I'm pretty sure they know that going into the fight and I highly doubt the people there would let it get to the point were someone dies. I can't be for sure, but it only seems logical.. and if you're serious about challenging them all you have to do is go to your local gracie jiu jitsu school and ask to challenge.. Im almost positive they still have these going on to this day.. they may have more restrictions now since half the students are usually police officers. but i know you can ask to at least grapple with them.
cr8tve12 I was just kidding about the challenge, I'm actually a student at a Gracie Academy, I'm a white belt with a stripe =D haha But I've been doing grappling for a while longer from my MMA and Kempo training. But I really do historical fencing and I really wanna see how a Gracie would deal with a fencer though! xD haha
11:10 , The blonde hair guy kind of voluntarily ends the match and you can hear him say "he got me" to his corner people. What exactly happened? I didn't see it
8:47 for some wicked bare-knuckle blows to the back of the head. Effective technique, yes, but there was some emotion there that *probably* should've been checked. Don't use this necessarily as a "good example" brothers! While excellent fighters, these people (along with us) are all learning still. Fight the good fight, -Beau P.s. I wonder with the no mouth guards if there was any broken teeth.
I agree with you about not letting emotion take over and it's something Rener and everyone else at the academy teach. However this was obviously a time where the fighting mindset in general was at a different place. A lot of Jiu Jitsu guys were pretty ruthless. I mean UFC 1 was VERY ruthless. No disrespect, but sometimes comments like yours are just as bad as you saying the video isn't a "Good example." Especially when the video is 20 minutes long and those strikes in the video were only ten seconds of it. That's focusing on the small negatives of something great, and IMO that's a flaw in itself. Sure he got a bit out of control with the strikes, HOWEVER the BIG picture of the video is how Jiu Jitsu helps in a real fight whether you are controlled or decide to throw in a few strikes. If you SERIOUSLY can say that if someone was striking you and you wouldn't want to strike them a few times when you had the open chance, then you'd be lying. Whether you act on it is a different story however, these guys were fighting real time, so yeah, the guy chose to strike with his Jiu Jitsu. If you don't agree with it, that's fine, ignore those few seconds and see the pure Jiu Jitsu in the other 19 minutes. Today, Rener and the rest of the academy are showing ways to "Keep it playful," so if you ARE a student in the academy, you should be aware of this and be able to look past this considering it's a simple flaw that can be set aside from the big picture. The point is, Jiu Jitsu is showing its effectiveness.
Y4J Ah yes, I agree. No disrespect meant towards BJJ, and yes this was a different era. I think we agree more than anything (especially on the "keep it playful" philosophy, which we incorporate every week of training). I'm sure we can also agree that some hot-headed blokes see old footage like this and don't see the context (which is demonstrating the effectiveness of BJJ during a time when no one knew about it, as you say yourself). Instead some ("some") poor blokes watch old footage like this and see it as an excuse NOT to "keep it playful," which is unfortunate! Do not hate on me brother! I'm not being a keyboard warrior here! I think if you read my comment carefully and watch some of my videos you'll see we agree! :o All the best, -Beau Ch.
Greg Cunningham Having chipped some teeth while sparring (and not wearing a mouth guard), I've found mouth guards do offer a considerable amount of protection from blows. Of course I think we can agree they don't offer perfect protection, especially if you're a career fighter who's getting pounded daily (e.g. Dan Henderson). All the best, -Beau Ch.
TomHat92 Make sure they never challenge them again. The only time it is too long is if you choke someone to death. Or break a limb after a tap. Nothing wrong with what they are doing.
The Gracie Family talks so much about sportsmanship, I'm a Combatives member & all of my interactions with different Gracie schools have reflected a positive atmosphere where egos are checked at the door BUT with all due respect; I have to say as someone who has watched just about everything Gracie on the net, I see a lot of unsportsmanlike behavior from the fighters, Renzo even stepped on some dudes head & Royce punished with extra submission time several times. Is it wrong to think that the family gained a little humility after learning the Gracie BJJ alone can no longer make you the baddest guy on the planet? Just saying.
Those were two isolated occasions out of about 100 fights that they have had. And Royce was bitten on the ear in that fight where he held on longer than he should have. And BTW, fools are trying to take their head off and you want sportsmanship after every fight? They are not robots they are people just like you and me. And they do have emotions.
redenstein Where do you people live, in internet land? I live in the real world. They teach and emphasize discipline in Martial Arts because you can easily kill someone if you are undisciplined. So in other words if you don't kill someone in a fight you have shown discipline. That's the meaning of discipline in the Martial Arts. They are after all fighters and not humanitarians.
dingoleh I don't know about any of the other posters but I live in Los Angeles. I think that's your meaning of discipline in martial arts. Controlling your mind and body over your emotions would be mine. They clearly didn't do that.
redenstein Your mind must be a terrible place if your training yourself to be devoid of emotion. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I don't have any rage in me to the point that I need to train to control my emotions. I forgot that everyone has their own reasons for doing Martial Arts.
Where are the matches with the faddas? Rumor has it they submitted the Gracie's with let locks. Mitsuyo maeda didn't just teach the Gracie's he taught the faddas as well and I heard there are videos of them beating the gracies
I gotta give props because they went at it full force no points taking away from anything else but points giving too them for the realness respect ossu
Mauricio Zingano: -3rd degree faixa-preta -2-time national Champion of BJJ -owner of a successful BJJ school Somebody who had a lots of things that I wish I had. Ironic that he went on to kill himself. :(
Yes, it is. His tragic suicide probably had something to do with his painful divorce. He is like Robin Williams - someone very successful who would be envied by many other people, yet felt a special kind of pain that drove him to take his life. www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/1/14/5308312/mauricio-zingano-husband-head-coach-suicide-cat-zingano-passed-dead-ufc-mma-news
Everyone that stepped up moved like they maybe had a few fights with an older brother but once the gracie's turned it up it was over...true surgeons of the art!!!
It's not to show dominance, it's to guarantee no excuses can be made and no claim to not tapping by the loser. This wasn't the modern sport of mma, these fighters were completely unknown quantities, "dominance" as you call it was simply a matter of self-defense in these matches.
SUperD 007 Yes those chokes were held a little too long after the tap. It's not good sportsmanship and it could have gotten a lot more serious if they had done that to the wrong man.
This a foreshadowing of how wrestlers will dominate jiu jitsu in MMA. They had a hard time taking down the wrestler and wrestler controlled the jiu jitsu guy
All you anti-Jiu Jitzu fools haven't got a clue as to what fighting is about. I hardly doubt any of you keyboard warriors have been in a real fighting situation... You call them bullshit artists for some odd reason, yet you never prove this or provided any explanation. In this video I see men do the typical throw strikes, but Jiu-Jitsu trained martial artists respond by exposing these peoples assaults through self-defense... Really Jiu-Jitsu is self-defense, waiting for an aggressive opponent to make a mistake, and taking advantage of it. It is not a martial art of aggression, rather it is one of defense, and that is why it is so powerful. All I see are highly skilled martial artists taking advantage of peoples urge to punch/assault. In my experience fighting usually comes to the ground, in one way or another. Look at fighting videos online, or watch UFC fights.... Sure, there are plenty of strikes, but its all about the take down, its all about dominating and taking away your opponents ability to fight. This is either through a knockout standing up, or on the ground pummeling someones face in, or choking them out/forcing them to tap. Unless there is a knockout you can be pretty sure its going to the ground. And thats where Jiu-Jitsu succeeds, it specializes in peoples weaknesses. It's brilliant actually, and is sad you naive fools don't understand what fighting is really all about. A weak man has to start a fight, a strong one only defends himself when it is necessary.
All I see are a bunch of untrained clowns at the local Y> Attacking? Shit most were lucky to even throw one punch. Further all MA are mainly defensive. The way to beat a Jui Jitsu guy is straight blasting the fucker, keep punching them and dont let them capitalize. This video is indicative of what not to do. we see Jui Jitsu guys being dominated by aggressive strikers now in the Cage.
SlayerofFiction dummy every good MMA fighter nowadays are BJJ black belts. They ALL train Jiu-jitsu. Go into any BJJ school and challenge a blue belt. See how tough they are. Then challenge a purple belt. You will question your manhood. Maybe then you will be ready to learn browns and black belts. You bjj haters are funny. I guess ignorance is bliss.
True, takedowns are the one flaw in BJJ. They didn't really matter back in the day, though. It's not hard to take a striker down, while wrestlers and Judo players would complete the takedowns FOR the BJJ practitioner. Once the fight was on the ground, the BJJ guy would win every time. Wrestlers could pin, but had no submission defense. Judo players knew some submissions, but had no knowledge of positioning like a BJJ practitioner.
back then really the only martial art that incorporated multiple arts was shootfighting. wasnt until like 6 years later that people started incorporating wrestling, muai thai, and BJJ together, which is why the fighter from the early 90s cant touch the fighters of today.
bluesdealer That's still the situation unless you face off against a UFC fighter. Pretty low odds, or rather, really high odds that you'll win with GJJ basic techniques.
Brian Saez Yeah I think BJJ is most effective when incorporated in MMA, where you will invariably encounter some cross training with wrestling for the takedowns.
I am a grappler, I do appreciate Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, but one thing you have to understand.. in the early 90's. The Gracies introduced their Rules in the Ring to the world after they had been fighting under those rules for 70 years. This was a huge upset to the generic Martial Arts World. Most Martial Art relied on "STAND UP".. lets try to use the "Vibrating Fist Of Death" (or whatever), to take out an opponent. Many and I mean MANY of the Martial Artists got their asses handed to them when this style of Martial Arts were introduced to the USA. They Thought that if they could punch or kick.. that was all the skill they needed... Until they found themselves tied in a knot by the Grappling Martial Arts. The earliest Days of UFC/MMA Proved... You had to have grappling skills or you were toast....... Ya you might get lucky and Punch or Kick some guy before he grabs one of your limbs and creates a new double joint.. .but realistically.. it showed you need to be able to Box, Kick Box and Grapple or you were just going to get your ass kicked. In the early 90's the Gracies dominated, (along with the Wrestlers), but several years later the MMA movement, surpassed the Gracie style and moved on to incorporate Many, Many more techniques. After 70+ years of stagnation, the whole MMA Movement, Adapted many of the Killer Gracie's techniques and brought many, many more styles into the Art form to produce the modern MMA system. This is the best of the best.. .take all techniques from all Martial Arts, (and newly formed Martial Arts), and use only the best of the best moves... ie drop the attitude on "I Was Trained in This Art.. (insert what ever stupid, limited Martial Art you think is best) and Open your Mind to the VAST new Martial Arts out there. (Seriously guys.. Your CRANE KUNG FU etc.. may be great for beating up untrained Peasants, but it cannot compete with modern MMA). Sluggo P.S. I am not a boxer or Kickboxer... if I get into a match with them... My only shot is avoiding their first blow and grabbing a limb so I can make new joints etc. Because of my lack of Boxing/Kickboxing.. I am gimped for MMA... maybe someday I will change that. But I am very proud of my Grappling ability, and I am pleased to have that training. Note to young people... who are not THUGS.. Take some MMA training!!! Do not settle for some "Standard" Martial Art! Sluggo
reason why the last guy was so mad at the end, was cause the wrestler had him. Had the wrestler kept in training he would have won easily (anyone listening herd him say he hasnt wrestled in a while). If he has any knowledge of boxing or even muay thai (i counted 4 times he could have blasted the jujitsu guy with some knees), the jujutsu guy would be dead and he knew it. I already have boxing and muay thai experience, looks like wrestling is the way to go for me.
"he would have won easily" - you sound like you haven't been in many fights In BJJ, the "almost had him" is about 6 - 8 years apart from "getting him", trust me ;) the wrestler may have almost had him to you but when you get a little more wrestling experience you will see he had no chance, he got lucky a few times with strength that's about it
4c00h Absolutely right my friend. Plus if he stayed in that position,its because he knew he was in control. And TENNSUMITSUMA ,of course wrestling is a "must"!No BJJ practitioner would deny that.But if you're talking MMA,you cant do it w/o jits.Not only a base but a very strong base. You have a cpl yrs of total dedication right there.Its way easier to learn other MA when your grappling skills (jits,wrestling,judo) are already high. But BJJ is such an amazing and interesting art,before you know it you'll be half way there.Go for it.
4c00h I find that hard to believe considering the guy said he handn't done it in a while (im guessing wrestling) and yet royce still couldn't beat him. i didn't see any tap, only him stopping cause he was tired.
TENNSUMITSUMA Sakuraba knew Jiu-Jitsu man. He is a Japanese. Do you know how the Catch Wrestling was made??? Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was made between 1920-1925. Catch was born after a long time period. They analyzed their tactics well and then created it. Do you know the Catch Wrestling teacher of Sakuraba? He is the founder of that. Before he made his art, he was just a classical wrestler. Like Helio's story. Before he created BJJ, he was just a Kosen Judoka. There was only one Sakuraba, but there were many Gracies and they were undisputed. :D
i think its great to show the doubters that bjj is an amazing and very effective martial art but i couldnt help but notice how unsportsman like some of the winners were like slapping away the other guys hand these guys knew nothing about grappling the least you can is give them credit that they got in there
I was thinking the same thing. I can't figure out if those were unsportsman hand slaps, or the adrenaline-fueled equivalent of a high-five. Either way, a handshake would have gone a long way. Great vid, nonetheless.
Sakuraba was a unique individual who figured out how to defeat 4 of the Gracie family members. He eventually lost a rematch to Royce. The Gracie JiuJitsu art lives on despite the losses some practitioners experienced.
Ianoodin These people you're responding to have never played any sports or do any thing that is competitive. They're straight keyboard warriors talking bullshit about emotional control. C'mon now.
Ianoodin The Gracie family are not just "everyone" they have many decades of experience and training in martial arts and they're all taught from a young age. So if one of them enters a fight knowing they're going to win I'd expect them to show some discipline and good sportsmanship. Comparing them to some knuckle headed footballer is ludacris.
This is one of Rorion Gracie's first American brown belts Lowell Andersen circa 1993. Richard Bressler(Rorion first American student) is also there. I was a student there at the Gracie Academy in Torrance CA at the time of these fights. Royce was still teaching there and he had won UFC 1 by then. Can you imagine the pride we had as students to be training there in those days?
These were special times...
Ya I went there
People dont understand that this is some of the most important and historical footage of MMA. This footage along with a few others started a movement that became what MMA is today.
Thats not true MMA/vale tudo has been around in japan and brazil for decades prior to UFC and gracies in action, they just introduced and marketed the sport to a western audience (brilliantly)
@@famisheddendonyes, but this footage and the Gracie’s are def responsible for the globalization of the sport
Truth
@@borizhAbsolutely! Through intelligence, marketing, and control of placement in the original ufc competition. They were smart and didn't allow skilled wrestling into the sport until after Gracie retired. There js a reason tank abbot and the next generation had to wait, they didn't receive indentations until the end of gracies run at the top and the world knew what jujitsu could do. They didn't fix the fights, that's bs , he win fair and square , but they did control who fought who and who competed. It was THEIR competition lol
@@famisheddendonThey brought jujitsu, but true mixed martial arts began with Bruce Lee in the west. They did make it a household name for sure though, the ufc , tge furst and original competition changed the world of martial arts forver.
i just watched it, you can change the title now
Hatecha
But there is not a gracie in sight, lies all lies
Hey Bry you and Toe still huggin that globe fantasy? Big Bear says suck it you fuckin coward.
@@chriswoods2128 Read the description numnuts, the Gracie challenge refers to fighting a Gracie Jiu Jitsu fighter. These are Gracie JJ fighters event though they aren't Gracies
@@chriswoods2128 there aren't any Gracies on sight ??? Are you blind ?? In the video we can see Rorion Gracie the guy with the mustache, we also see Royler Gracie and the camera man was Royce Gracie you can 3ven war them speak to Royce and the rest ware students of the Gracies. .. so I don't know what you mean by its all lies ???
Are you trolling ? ? Cause what you said , it doesn't make sense ..
It's there on the video for every one to see and identify them, like I did. .
For all those watching, its good to note that one of the last guys in this video was Mauricio Zingano, a now well-respected and established MMA coach in Colorado. He is also married to Cat Zingano, one of the top contenders in the UFC Women's Bantamweight division. Unfortunately, he passed away a few weeks ago, and I request for your prayers for his family and students as they affected by his loss.
Thank you for your time.
Suicide and "Passed away" are not the same. www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/1/14/5308312/mauricio-zingano-husband-head-coach-suicide-cat-zingano-passed-dead-ufc-mma-news
Brian Davis Unnecessary, have some respect
Brian Davis Passing away is a euphemism for dying, no matter the cause.
Brian Davis It says right at the start of the article: "Sad news in the MMA community as it has been confirmed that Mauricio Zingano, husband of UFC top contender Cat Zingano has passed away." And then right after that it said again that he passed away. I've never seen somebody send a link trying to prove their point when it proves them wrong twice right at the beginning.
He died due to injuries of this fight
which pixel is Gracie?
I lol'd
That's frickin great!
😂
Hahaha. .unbelievable!
The white pixels
Gracie fighters seem to hold past the tap a bit longer than required.
hahhahaha. I noticed that
T.O. McConnell Step into a cage with Khabib after your 6 months of kickboxing and see who wins, any of these guys could kill you with their hands. Be respectful.
T.O. McConnell Also it’s BJJ and I’m not sure where wrestling came into this video at all either, you seem like someone that doesn’t even train hahahahah
"It's normal"
- Palhares
Fitz I’m confused T.O. Says he’ll take a wrestler with stand up anyday... and u mention khabib? A wrestler with stand up Lool.
damn, I thought that whole "school takes on all challenges" was just for martial arts films, y'all really do this 💯
@Chris McStoots it was because the Gracies were the ones to say something like "Hey our art is like really strong, so if there is someone that wants to text it we are open to challenges" they wanted to show that their art rocks haha
@Chris McStoots yes they did
Love all these old challenge fights. I remember renting the Gracie In Action tapes back in the early 90s and watching the first UFC. Several years later Fabio Santos opened an academy in San Diego. The guy in the board shorts (last fight) was able to stay on his feet the longest and actually shot in for a takedown. Looks like he had some wrestling experience. This is why a lot of us early practitioners started jiu jitsu. It was to learn how to fight and for self defense. I never even knew there were tournaments until after 2001. Keep on training.
Legendary footage. People don’t know that this is what changed fighting forever.
*Not really. The Gracies were frauds. Sakuraba proved that.*
Absolute frauds. They would jump and beat up people with baseball bats for winning
Its the best
@@MattSingh1 bro. Sakuraba did beat them later on, but who cares ! It does not change the fact that the Gracies did change Martial arts forever. OSS.
@@MattSingh1It's a joking right?
I'm glad you are sharing this amazing footage with us. My entire family is against grapple and think all fights end standing. This gives me a better opportunity to prove them wrong. Plus it shows the effectiveness of the Gracie way.
Gracie way is based on real fights.. on streets you can´t follow rules
Mr.CoolBottom The only thing biting would get you would be a broken limb.
Mr.CoolBottom you have to ask yourself? "are my ideas new and revolutionary or simple enough for someone else to have attempted and failed." In other words- nothings new under the sun, not saying you could not beat a Gracie but many have before you have come with the same philosophy, and better skill and still failed miserably.
The best way to defeat BJJ is to Know BJJ.
Who's worshiping BJJ? I just find it funny that you come on here using the old "well if they did that to me I'd just bite them" theory. Ridiculous.
Mr.CoolBottom your not thinking out of the box, your deep in a corner of the box but think you've found a secret passage. Its equivalent of a somoene saying, "hey if you get thirsty during a workout take salt pills." in other words- your throwing out i would do this blah blah blah and not stopping to realize the big picture."All of these ideas have failed!!" If neutralizing a highly trained BJJ practioner was a easy as attempting to do a knee during a double or biting- then it would have never gotten as far as it did. Everything you're saying has been attempted and failed. sure its possible to land the perfect knee strike at the moment of entry- but that window is so small with such small room for error its almost impossible- especially without prior grappling knowledge- to actually do.
Hats off to Lowell who was a 3 year Tae kwon do guy who made a fair showing with a BJJ grand master. On the other hand the Gracies show so little class by holding on extra long when these guys are tapping.
Most American Martial Artist are recreational. they don't practice four and five hours a day. When the Gracie challenge was issued they were like Navy Seals beating up National Guard reservist.
When the Gracies came over they were very disrespectful to other Martial artist. Royce issued an open challenge in Black Belt Magazine to Judo Gene Lebelle (a senior citizen). Gene accepted the challenge, with one little tweak, he wanted to fight someone his own age from the Gracie family so he challenged Heilio. That fight never happened.
In an interview with Royce Gracie after UFC 2 by Black Belt Magazine Royce was asked if he owed anything to Japanese Jujitsu and Judo and he said "We owe nothing to Japanese Jujitsu, nothing at all!" I have video of the head of Gracie Jujitsu in France being challenged and submitted in a seminar by some French MMA guy. If you inbox me I will connect you to the website that has it posted. The sad thing about it is, after the public win, the Gracie family showed up at the bar where the guy worked and wanted to fight him.
The Gracies publicly challenged Benny Urquidez, Mike Tyson (who is a Gracie Fan now) and anyone else they could use to make a name for themselves. Royce acted like a little bitch (and no I wouldn't say it to his face but you know it's true) when Ishmael beat him in Brazil and when Eddie Bravo beat his sibling. The family has acted classlessly throughout their tenure here and now they have realized that commercial gyms need a kinder and gentler image to be successful.
The Gracie luster disappears very quickly when they are on the losing end of a fight or business deal. People act as if no one won a street fight until the Gracies came along but I have and many others have by the grace of God.
My hat's off to BJJ because it is a formidable style and they train like they fight. But some of the Gracies have been real assholes over the years and that's just some real talk.
Well said
Is Howell the guy in the checkered shirt and t-shirt that actually put up a pretty good fight at 16:49 and the end of the video. Guy was doing good in the grappling just didn't know what to do on the ground, then the Gracie acted like a dick for beating a part time instructor. The guy actually looks like a high school/college kid.
Lowell was the guy n the checkered pants in the 3rd to the last fight and the last fight. The last Gracie fighter acted like a dick as if he tried to hurt Lowell for giving him a run for his money. As you can see in these clips they script these as friendly matches and then purposefully do things that could permanently injure people who are just trying to test themselves and train. The Gracie's need to be embarrassed by these videos. fFighting guys with guts and beer bellies or disrespecting guys who in front of his own training partners admits the superiority of their style and they act like smug duche bags.
The fact that they just drive elbows into a guys head who clearly has no chance of escaping mount is just assault. No respect there whatsoever.
teej It was unnecessary. I love bjj; but i was very disappointed in the way some of the practitioners of bjj acted in this video and other select times. Plus all the old videos show gracies beating up on people that lacked credentials of being what they stated in the videos (kung fu expert ect)
-got bullied at school as a kid
-learned karate and earned my black belt
-nobody in high school fucked with me anymore
-got to go fight a Gracie
-started the entire process all over again
🥵
That sounds great, man. Karate helped you, but you have to build on success AND failure. More learning about your body and your mind is a gift!
@@grantcivyt this was a joke
😂😂😂
That why u gotta learn how to sprawl man or just some wrestling and make sure the fight didn't go to the ground and beat the shit out of him but if it does let's just hope that some wrestling or bjj knowledge are enough to fight em
Karate served a purpose for you. The punches and kicks you learned in karate helped you defend yourself from "unskilled" opponents. BJJ just takes it to the next level. Nobody is "worse off" from adding an extra layer of steel to their bunker.
Everyone needs to appreciate how important to Martial Arts this video is. It took us light years ahead.
Last guy actually showed some very good wrestling. The Gracie Academy fighter had 0 chance of taking him down. The poor sportsmanship displayed at the end was disappointing.
Prolly pissed the guy out-wrestled him and lasted so long and escaped his first arm-bar attempt.
Evidence that wrestlers have been giving jiu-jitsu guys hell from the beginning.
He sounds like dillashaw
Yeah after their first encounter dude tried shaking his hand and he slapped it away, very disrespectful
The guy that fucking tapped to being out of shape? Nah, he was the most dishonorable of them all
I'm I'm not mistaken the last guy is collegiate wrestler. Ya know wrestler have more power and core balance that's why he is hard to be taken down
This is classic very epic footage .I personally after 25yrs of watching this stuff to go back and see this is priceless !!
LLIP DER
they had TH-cam back then?
The guy in the shorts held his own. This was in the 90's when no one knew what these people were famous for. It appeared the guy in shorts was a wrestler and did weight training. He did more than well. Rorion wasn't too happy by the looks he was giving off. Luckily they were smart and didn't fall for the trap to continue challenges.
Gracie did kinda act a fool there
Yes, by then most coming into the Academy to challenge knew who The Gracies were and what they did in terms of style.
I love how chill Master Rorion is in the background. To those challengers, this is a humbling, ego breaking, embarrassing life changer but to Rorion, it’s just another day at the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu office.
*to rorion, it was tuesday
This is like one of those movies but real. Absolutely amazing! I'm honoured just watching.
The losing fighters were big enough men to extend a hand even after losing. The winning students show nothing but contempt at the jesture. Undoubtedly better martial artists, but total Douchebags
Well they are South American, after all.
the reason they 'slap' the hand is to prevent being sucker punched
I'd imagine after a guy tries punching you in the face and connects with a few that once you win, you aren't going to be buddy buddy.. that said, the Gracies were dicks a lot of the time.
@@lewisruffalo2221 nothing but A fucking DoucheBag,racist Prick
They were just being careful. There had been incidents where such fighters would offer a hand after losing and then take a swing in revenge.
Seeing Fabio and Lowell in those first fights is really cool. Brings back memories. Those two and Royce were my instructors for years. Good times.
"I could have broken both of your arms"- Relson Gracie hahahahhahahahhahhahaah
Fabio Santos
I was there for the fights in Torrance. Mauricio was in one of them, a blue belt. Joe Pardo and Mark Burmeister, both blue belts at the time, and then Lowell Anderson (brown belt at the time) beating the little guy, who I knew. The guy was a semiconductor components broker and when I found out he was going to fight in a challenge match, I advised him not to. I even told him step by step how our guy would beat him (he was a TKD fighter). Nice guy, but sure enough he got beat twice, but then before the third time, Royce said this time, you can't tap out for five minutes. He thought about it and declined, muttering "I don't want to get killed." Royce then made the point that you got three chances here--in the streets, you only get one chance. That drove the point home. When we were in the intermediate/advanced class upstairs, and if a challenge match was about to materialize, one of the instructors would come upstairs and yell "Showtime", and we would all stop class and run down to check out the challenge fights. I was in the background looking thru the window, while Ed O'Neill was one of the few who was inside the little room to spectate. "Al Bundy" is now an accomplished black belt. I think he was a blue belt at the time also. Which made our point at the time. Our blue belts could defeat black belts from other arts because of the techniques from BJJ. Today, because of the incorporation of BJJ, martial artists are more proficient at submission grappling. I recall Danny Inosanto and Richard Bustillo's JKD students started training with the Gracies because our students were dominating them. Everybody's game got elevated
Gaucho Hoops I was there back then as well. Good times! Lowell, Ethan and Richard would teach the first classes then you graduated to training with Royce after a couple months. Always saw Ed O'neil training privates. I remember when they added the upstairs and Rose worked the new juice bar. Haha. Anyway, the training was great and was in preparation for fighting like this. Much different then how people train bjj today. I remember Royce slapping me in the face if I didn't control him properly in the guard.
Run along joah45, it's time for school.
Gaucho Hoops assume this is legit - nice 👍🏼 explanation.
One of the best comments I have ever read on here.
Fabio Santos from 3:35 to 6:00?
Looked great on my 4K TV
Hahahaha, this deserves more likes 😂😂
Even better on my 8K TV
Haha
Nobody:
Sakuraba: Imma end this whole man's career
Only after he trained in Jujitsu and was later beaten into retirement.
Ranch Life trained Japanese Jiu Jitsu got beaten by a young Gracie when he was old and one time by Royce then he tested positive for the fight before hand he beat Royler Gracie, Renzo Gracie, Ryan Gracie, and Royce Gracie.
@@josephmiranda7047 He was a catch wrestler, shoot wrestler and trained BJJ. He was amazing and did wake the Gracies up to adapting BJJ for more effective fighting techniques, especially No Gi training. That was a shame when Royce was popped for steroids and I would loved to have seen Sakuraba fight Rickson. People use Sakuraba's wins to try and discredit the Gracies but without them we would not have modern MMA. The Gracies changed the landscape of martial arts and fighting arts forever. Even Sakuraba now teaches BJJ and Catch Wrestling. Many BJJ practioners go to train with him and the future will be a blending of the two styles for the most effective grappling techniques.
@@ranchlife8128 That mean Royce Gracie is a fraud. Taking steroids to gain an edge is cheating and fraudulent in my book. Royce was and is still a fraud.
@@edgar22452 I agree taking steroids to gain an edge is cheating and fraudulent and it's a shame so many athletes do it. To say Royce is a fraud because he committed a fraudulent act doesn't hold water. Have you ever lied? Of course you have, so by your logic it makes you a liar for all time. Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Ask anyone who has ever rolled with Royce if he is a fraud.
It might be unseen because you cant see anything in this video.
Anything*
And I agree lol
They fought neofites
Hahaha very true comment
Where did they find these studs they took on the Great familia de Gracie with bravery and heart of a mountain tiger in the frigid of the Siberian Taiga...
19:32 is an amazing escape from a sort of neck crank or bully choke. He doesn't have great position, but you can tell he probably has wrestling, considering he used a wrestling reversal in the first round, and he has fairly good takedown defense. But look at the way he forces a reversal out of that choke with his right arm.
Punching to the ribs to escape the choke!!
Oss!
Love you Gracies, but the pack mentality and sportsmanship was lacking with wins here with all the pushing when opponents were submitted and offering handshakes, terrible egocentric attitude and should have worked on humility incorporated with skills
rundown thomas
intredasting
They took a couple shots to the head. As soon as the opponents gets in bad position, they give up with no or very little damage. I would say the respect is not putting to sleep, breaking an arm, etc.
@@runthomas - Scarface, right?
Except it wasn't Gracies. They were just students, not members of the family. These students probably didn't like these other wannabes coming into their dojo to try to hurt them and show them up. They mean business, you can tell the other team was just there because they think they're fancy with their "karate". They got smoked by a real martial art.
Back when it was all about A5’s and starting the shot from 20 feet away
Poor sportsmanship! Where's young Ryron Gracie to say, "Hey guys! Keep it playful"?
Remember, for them it wasn't a sport at that time. These were martial arts with intent to kill. Eye gouges and groin grabs were allowed.
Aaron Funtanilla This was the early 90's so Ryron Gracie was still a little kid, otherwise he would have made them Keep it Playful and have respect.
Also, you have to keep in mind that most of these guys came directly from Brazil where this stuff happened daily. There is a different culture over there.
@Lyle Benzo they arent training for sport you deliquent
Shaolinman102 don’t comment on a culture you don’t know anything about and you don’t know why those fights happen.
what's up w/ them being disrespectful? Lowell wouldn't shake hands, etc...
+Rhyan Jonestown What's to respect? Those guys are there to challenge them to a fight, not dancing. All that crap about respect is just illusion and BS for the sheisters who just want to make money. This is not sport fighting. This is about fighting and winning for real. Pure and simple.
+Rhyan Jonestown Alright, I give them the fighting skills ,but it's something sour about how they present themselves... other than that, sure there is no respect on the streets.
On a side note, I think this is where the video games(maybe tekken)got their idea for a fighting stage where the dojo has a crowd of students in the background.
cant respect the way they tried to fight the gracie
+Kozz Krieg you are a moron re read the description really slow it might anwser all your question that already have been anwsered lol
you didnt say you typed. I typed lol says the prison bitch that keep replying kozz tampon
Fabio Santos was my instructor years ago. I had to quit when I developed Type 2 Diabetes, but Fabio was a good teacher.
that guy in the shorts had a lot of promise
@Mike P idiot they didn't have school or college back then
RedxNoscopeZz ummmm what😐 are you actually being serious..
He was bigger and stronger than the Gracie. That’s about it.
Gases out from using so much strength.
Yes but imagine in the street you immobilized a guy for 2 minutes another guy cracks him. Or you have a knife and jab it into his side.
The point is he had en extremely hard time with an average wrestler. Royce is an elite jui jitsu player this guy prob has high school wrestling background imagine an Olympic champion wrestler in peak condition would drop him on his head.
Jui jitsu is the most efficient martial art but a wrestler in peak shape is clearly a problem
There is something about these old VCR-taped videos of an underground fight before UFC and martial arts really became famous that just seems so gritty and raw. It is sweet to find these "hole in the wall" events, just underground fights, as compared to all the sell-outs nowadays. Back when men settled their arguments in three-minute bouts and not talking trash behind social media.
Keep it real. Respect.
These were fighting challenges, not men settling their arguments. Men settle their arguments using reason and civil debate/discussion. Brutes and sociopaths settle arguments by fighting.
Humans are animals. Underneath every "civilized gentleman" there is a potential "sociopathic" animal. And in all honesty, I would rather have these guys express themselves through these controlled bouts instead of domestic violence, drug addictions, crime, or other unproductive lifestyles.
Ken Shiro Humans are animals, but part of our natural selection is to behave through varied forms interaction, which includes advanced communication.
And yeah, I agree, sociopathic brutes need such expression. But most martial-artists are not sociopathic brutes, they're just decent guys and/or girls looking to learn how to defend themselves or how to compete in combat sport because they love competition, but not necessarily hurting people.
He heally hespond like a heal professional under pressure... an inspiration and hevelation to watch🤙🏽
0:00 - Fight 1: Guillotine (Lesson 23)
1:52 - Fight 2: Rear Naked Choke (Lesson 5)
3:34 - Fight 3: Straight Armlock (Lesson 19)
4:22 - Fight 4: Kimura (Lesson 25)
6:58 - Fight 5: Back Mount Control (Lesson 4)
9:50 - Fight 6: Verbal surrender
12:11 - Fight 7: Rear Naked Choke (Lesson 5)
15:12 - Fight 8: Verbal surrender
17:41 - Fight 9: Back Mount Control (Lesson 4)
18:58 - Fight 10: Straight Armlock (Lesson 25)
Fights 1 to 10: judo techniques. Rear naked choke, btw, is actually called hidake jime, naked strangle, which Gracie learnt from judo then changed the name. Just saying. If this fight is about ‘history’, for once let’s get the terms straight.
I beat a Gracie once... He was a white guy from Canada but his name was Gracie... So I won!
Sorry bro! No homo!
You dim fucktardv there are more people in the world name Gracie then the Gracie BJJ guys. It was a joke.
Johnny Wishbone Will you guys PLEASE carry on your romance somewhere ELSE??????????????Thanks!!SluggoHe He... OK was harassing both of you!
Hell Yeahhh, Bro!!!!! hahahahahaha!!Johnny Wishbone
Johnny Wishbone than you wake-up from your dream
See how respectful you are when someone shows up to your school and challenges you to a fight in the middle of classes.
Gracies: "UNSEEN FOOTAGE!"
TH-cam: 1.8Million Views...
😀
LMAO
Well, it can’t remain unseen once it’s posted.
BANNED TOO!
All part of the Gracie propaganda machine, there are also countless examples of Gracies getting destroyed by wrestlers, judokas and MMA fighters, and the public should be continuously informed about the reality that the Gracie brand, regardless of how it started, has become synonymous with unethical marketing, immoral conduct and delusional excuses in the face of any of their family member's many many many losses...
“With great power comes great responsibility.” - Stan Lee
Sadly you see none of this from the victors. Respect to what the Gracies did for modern martial arts. But these videos are now making them look like bullies. There’s no need to promote the Gracie name in this way anymore. Their name commands enough respect. No one is unbeatable. Always stay humble, because there is always someone in the world out there that can beat you. I.e. Kazushi Sakuraba
The gracie killer
Spot on!
This isnt a fucking cartoon!!!
I think this camcorder tapped out in the 80’s and nobody listened.
“You can punch and kick” after he smacks his jaw😂
The Gracies never show videos of their losses and are unclassy in their fights. Thank God they are no longer relevent.
GodwinCarpenter that’s because they haven’t lost any fight
Well boy aren’t you mad now that Kron has entered the UFC undefeated?
@@javieibarra3259 Eugênio Tadeu, they turned off the lights to prevent defeat and ran from anyone that could beat them like Fedor, Marco ruas , igorvovchanchyn and many others
flow repins666 r u talking about the gracies?
@@javieibarra3259 well I suggest u searched the word gracies hunter and try saying that they never loses again
this was probably the best martial arts school in the country at the time. Good luck finding a jujitsu school that still teaches the right way anymore.
Was that "Taaaaaaappppppp!" at 4:10?
Haha, I didn't expect to see you here 🤣
It’s funny, people criticizes Rorion and his academy for not entering sport tournament jiujitsu matches and winning medals. Meanwhile, his students were honing real self defense skills in actual fights.
I think Rorion knew what he was doing.
That last guy did pretty good, and was very respectful.
When i saw a Gracie, i remembered Kazushi Sakuraba. He revenged all of these fighters very badly and most times.
Saku is 4-2 vs Gracies. He beat Royce only after an hour and thirty minutes when Royce threw in the towel. Saku lost the rematch. Ralek dominated Saku. Saku beat Royler and Renzo by technical submission IOW the neither tapped.
Don't get me wrong, Saku is a legend of MMA and remember, he is a very competent grappler. He did get the best of his encounters with the Gracies however he hardly dominated them.
@@windcatcher331 he broke renzo arm and royler he was trying to be nice he smashed him
@@419buckeye7 I thought Saku's win over Renzo was his most impressive. He had 20-30lbs on Royler. Royler looks like a midget compared to Saku.
Saku showed what competent grapplers can do when they are also well trained in striking. He was competent enough with grappling to frustrate Royce's attempts to take it to the ground, but those leg kicks took their toll. They were brutal and were set up with his ability to prevent getting caught in Royce's guard.
@@windcatcher331 yeah royler was not ready still all the Gracie's have heart and are tough as shit usually sakuraba is the one under sized I miss those pride days
@@windcatcher331 grappling don't count
Thank you to the Gracie family for debunking all the martial art myths of yesterday and showing what lethal really means...no brick breaking here but real combat. Thank you for letting us into this art. 🤙🏼
User Name no offense taken. My point and my tribute to the gracies lies in that they made their style of Jiujitsu known to the world as the baddest form of combat proven in a cage. Not maeda, nor kano. I get where you’re coming from but credit to whom credit is due.
@@hipqban169to be fair gracies picked opponents and rules. The judo proven it self when helio gracie got beated bad by kimura. They even say he cheated in kato match and got him off guard. Also yoshida technically chocked gracie too. Judo and sakuraba wreslting and sambo guys could too. Bjj is effective gracies are great fighters but they clearly set up the fights and rules also. Anyways they did it right , now they are rich in europe and usa.
Anyone saying the Gracies are being disrespectful have to keep something in mind, these guys are coming in with the intention of humiliating and hurting them, so that’s why you’re not seeing a lot of good sportsmanship... It’s not respectful to come into a dojo with those kind of intentions...
Kazushi Sakaraba was the only known man to put a dent in the Gracie name. These were some crazy sparring session, more like calling each other out.
Kimura broke Helio's arm before Sakuraba was even born. Learn your history.
The guy in the shorts is really good, had he been doing the same type of training as the Gracie crew he would've beaten most of the Gracie guys.
When u said most, u mean most in his skill range right? Theres no way kid like that beat 180pounds top fighters from Gracies.
@@paddy801 yes he would. Where are the gracies now?
That fight At 6:33 with that karate instructor . That Gracie bro was just using street fight maneuvers 😂
Been taking Bjj for 1 month and I’m obsessed
It'll fade. Just Kidding. How's your training going?
Hows that training going bro? It sounds strange but I feel a brotherhood to you even though I've never met you. Hope all is well
@@troopertreyy4759 it’s going great! I train 3 days a week. I got my blue belt almost 2 years ago and I’m working towards my purple. Most of my friends are my bjj brothers and sisters. Truly changed my life!
Hell yeah man 🤙
@@Arthurdankarelli Amazing, good stuff! I got almost 5 months of training in and hoping to keep going as long as I can!
Why so rude after fight? Show a little respect for your opponent?
a broken ego is a terrible thing ;)
Im sure he is refering to the Gracie’s acting like dicks after they won their matches
More like the truth
They're probably not sober. The Gracie Dudes who were fighting all acted and moved like they were on amphetamines. It's understandable since they would be taking any and all challenegers the whole day.
I only had to meet & listen to Rorion back in 1989 to know that Gracie Jiu-Jitsu worked. Then I sent all of my west coast friends to Rorion to train.
LOL, I still have my Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Championship Team t-shirt from 1992!
What got me talking to Rorion? We were talking the legal system in Brazil as compared to the US. I was writing Appellate Court briefs back then. Rorion was a really interesting guy to talk to and I enjoyed training with him. Great guy!
I don't approve of the behavior at 8:45. That shit isn't what Gracie Jujitsu is about... You're gonna freaking kill someone doing that shit... My favorite thing about Jujitsu is that you DON'T have to do stuff like that, you're in so much control of the person that none of that crap is necessary. I would have just tapped his head and told him "I'm elbowing the back of your head as hard as I can." So he gets the point without the brain damage...
So...
ChamorruWarrior People seem to always forget that these gracie challenges are NOT sport bjj fights. These are intended to be real bare knuckle street fights, to prove who's art will prevail in the end. Now if this were normal everyday training that they do then I would agree with you 100%, but this isnt sparring these are real fights.
cr8tve12 Dude... You can kill someone doing that shit... But since we're going no holds bared and it's cool if someone dies or goes blind from brain damage... How can I set up a challenge match with the Gracies? I'd like to prove that the Capo Ferro system of Italian fencing is better than Gracie Jujitsu. >.>
ChamorruWarrior You're right you can kill someone or cause serious damage.. but I'm pretty sure they know that going into the fight and I highly doubt the people there would let it get to the point were someone dies. I can't be for sure, but it only seems logical.. and if you're serious about challenging them all you have to do is go to your local gracie jiu jitsu school and ask to challenge.. Im almost positive they still have these going on to this day.. they may have more restrictions now since half the students are usually police officers. but i know you can ask to at least grapple with them.
cr8tve12 I was just kidding about the challenge, I'm actually a student at a Gracie Academy, I'm a white belt with a stripe =D haha But I've been doing grappling for a while longer from my MMA and Kempo training.
But I really do historical fencing and I really wanna see how a Gracie would deal with a fencer though! xD haha
Second guy's stance - hands down, chin up! :)
11:10 , The blonde hair guy kind of voluntarily ends the match and you can hear him say "he got me" to his corner people. What exactly happened? I didn't see it
8:47 for some wicked bare-knuckle blows to the back of the head. Effective technique, yes, but there was some emotion there that *probably* should've been checked. Don't use this necessarily as a "good example" brothers! While excellent fighters, these people (along with us) are all learning still.
Fight the good fight,
-Beau
P.s. I wonder with the no mouth guards if there was any broken teeth.
Correction: Guy at 15:08 putting in a mouth guard. Smart bloke.
I agree with you about not letting emotion take over and it's something Rener and everyone else at the academy teach. However this was obviously a time where the fighting mindset in general was at a different place. A lot of Jiu Jitsu guys were pretty ruthless. I mean UFC 1 was VERY ruthless.
No disrespect, but sometimes comments like yours are just as bad as you saying the video isn't a "Good example." Especially when the video is 20 minutes long and those strikes in the video were only ten seconds of it. That's focusing on the small negatives of something great, and IMO that's a flaw in itself. Sure he got a bit out of control with the strikes, HOWEVER the BIG picture of the video is how Jiu Jitsu helps in a real fight whether you are controlled or decide to throw in a few strikes.
If you SERIOUSLY can say that if someone was striking you and you wouldn't want to strike them a few times when you had the open chance, then you'd be lying. Whether you act on it is a different story however, these guys were fighting real time, so yeah, the guy chose to strike with his Jiu Jitsu. If you don't agree with it, that's fine, ignore those few seconds and see the pure Jiu Jitsu in the other 19 minutes.
Today, Rener and the rest of the academy are showing ways to "Keep it playful," so if you ARE a student in the academy, you should be aware of this and be able to look past this considering it's a simple flaw that can be set aside from the big picture. The point is, Jiu Jitsu is showing its effectiveness.
Just ask Dan Henderson if they protect your teeth.
What they do offer is some thin padding for your opponents knuckles.
Y4J
Ah yes, I agree. No disrespect meant towards BJJ, and yes this was a different era. I think we agree more than anything (especially on the "keep it playful" philosophy, which we incorporate every week of training). I'm sure we can also agree that some hot-headed blokes see old footage like this and don't see the context (which is demonstrating the effectiveness of BJJ during a time when no one knew about it, as you say yourself). Instead some ("some") poor blokes watch old footage like this and see it as an excuse NOT to "keep it playful," which is unfortunate!
Do not hate on me brother! I'm not being a keyboard warrior here! I think if you read my comment carefully and watch some of my videos you'll see we agree! :o
All the best,
-Beau Ch.
Greg Cunningham Having chipped some teeth while sparring (and not wearing a mouth guard), I've found mouth guards do offer a considerable amount of protection from blows. Of course I think we can agree they don't offer perfect protection, especially if you're a career fighter who's getting pounded daily (e.g. Dan Henderson).
All the best,
-Beau Ch.
What the fuck is wrong with the Gracie's and not letting go after their opponents tapping.
Kinosis79 hahaha xD bro u have link? would like to watch, love bas
TomHat92 Make sure they never challenge them again. The only time it is too long is if you choke someone to death. Or break a limb after a tap. Nothing wrong with what they are doing.
First video*
Front Desk* what's your belt size
Bjj guy: A3
Front desk: here try on this A12
The Gracie Family talks so much about sportsmanship, I'm a Combatives member & all of my interactions with different Gracie schools have reflected a positive atmosphere where egos are checked at the door BUT with all due respect; I have to say as someone who has watched just about everything Gracie on the net, I see a lot of unsportsmanlike behavior from the fighters, Renzo even stepped on some dudes head & Royce punished with extra submission time several times. Is it wrong to think that the family gained a little humility after learning the Gracie BJJ alone can no longer make you the baddest guy on the planet? Just saying.
Those were two isolated occasions out of about 100 fights that they have had. And Royce was bitten on the ear in that fight where he held on longer than he should have. And BTW, fools are trying to take their head off and you want sportsmanship after every fight? They are not robots they are people just like you and me. And they do have emotions.
dingoleh They are also supposed to be Martial Artists.
redenstein
Where do you people live, in internet land? I live in the real world. They teach and emphasize discipline in Martial Arts because you can easily kill someone if you are undisciplined. So in other words if you don't kill someone in a fight you have shown discipline. That's the meaning of discipline in the Martial Arts. They are after all fighters and not humanitarians.
dingoleh I don't know about any of the other posters but I live in Los Angeles. I think that's your meaning of discipline in martial arts. Controlling your mind and body over your emotions would be mine. They clearly didn't do that.
redenstein Your mind must be a terrible place if your training yourself to be devoid of emotion. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I don't have any rage in me to the point that I need to train to control my emotions. I forgot that everyone has their own reasons for doing Martial Arts.
Was a functional camera not available...?
Looks worse than any home movie I have ever seen.
Two of these guys looks like they found them at the bus station😂😂
Watching Gracie's fight every day Joe's is like watching a lion fight a gazelle
Tron_23 those weren’t any everydays they were shooting for takedowns
Except those were other professional martial artists
No.
Where are the matches with the faddas? Rumor has it they submitted the Gracie's with let locks. Mitsuyo maeda didn't just teach the Gracie's he taught the faddas as well and I heard there are videos of them beating the gracies
I gotta give props because they went at it full force no points taking away from anything else but points giving too them for the realness respect ossu
What am I missing on the "respect the tap" on the first two submissions here? Renner ok with those?
What's with the attitude of that Mauricio guy?
he was probably mad that the guy was going to let him break his arm
some guys just dont have respect
Mauricio Zingano:
-3rd degree faixa-preta
-2-time national Champion of BJJ
-owner of a successful BJJ school
Somebody who had a lots of things that I wish I had. Ironic that he went on to kill himself. :(
perfectsplit he did? How sad
Yes, it is. His tragic suicide probably had something to do with his painful divorce. He is like Robin Williams - someone very successful who would be envied by many other people, yet felt a special kind of pain that drove him to take his life.
www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/1/14/5308312/mauricio-zingano-husband-head-coach-suicide-cat-zingano-passed-dead-ufc-mma-news
Everyone that stepped up moved like they maybe had a few fights with an older brother but once the gracie's turned it up it was over...true surgeons of the art!!!
imagine what these dudes felt like, given 10, 15 years to a martial art that when used against the Gracie's its made/ rendered obsolete.🤔🤔😂✌️💯
No defence against Brazilian Jiu Jitsu!! No disrespect to the visitors
Oss!!
Somewhat douchy vibes in this video
The BJJ guys were such pricks don't even want to shake hands at the end
@@JohnSmith-pg9ns 😂
I agree
@Tiramisu #1P4PGOAT everyone starts somewhere. Just cause he's better doesn't mean he can't teach others
1920s guys
gotta love this 1920x1080 quality
fight 1 the opponent wanted a grappling match why didnt he get one? .... also you could let go sooner if he taps
Typical Gracie holding the choke longer than needed after the tap, just to show dominance.
It's not to show dominance, it's to guarantee no excuses can be made and no claim to not tapping by the loser. This wasn't the modern sport of mma, these fighters were completely unknown quantities, "dominance" as you call it was simply a matter of self-defense in these matches.
SUperD 007 Yes those chokes were held a little too long after the tap. It's not good sportsmanship and it could have gotten a lot more serious if they had done that to the wrong man.
@@JesseWorld1000 Watch UFC 1 to see why they hold a choke long enough to avoid any question about the tap.
EXACTLY!
@@peterpaul8698 Not how it was explained to me but I suppose that's another way to think about it.
This a foreshadowing of how wrestlers will dominate jiu jitsu in MMA. They had a hard time taking down the wrestler and wrestler controlled the jiu jitsu guy
I wonder if any of these guys who fought in the Gracie challenge actually signed up after getting beat up?
Not a lot of them but some did
Gracie vs homeless people. Old pre world war One footage. Now in colour
OMG. LOL. It's so true.
LOL!
And filmed on a noisy toaster for our viewing pleasure.
Katherine Smith
you again?!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I never tire of watching these.
That wrestler at the end was doing awesome.
All you anti-Jiu Jitzu fools haven't got a clue as to what fighting is about. I hardly doubt any of you keyboard warriors have been in a real fighting situation... You call them bullshit artists for some odd reason, yet you never prove this or provided any explanation. In this video I see men do the typical throw strikes, but Jiu-Jitsu trained martial artists respond by exposing these peoples assaults through self-defense... Really Jiu-Jitsu is self-defense, waiting for an aggressive opponent to make a mistake, and taking advantage of it. It is not a martial art of aggression, rather it is one of defense, and that is why it is so powerful. All I see are highly skilled martial artists taking advantage of peoples urge to punch/assault. In my experience fighting usually comes to the ground, in one way or another. Look at fighting videos online, or watch UFC fights.... Sure, there are plenty of strikes, but its all about the take down, its all about dominating and taking away your opponents ability to fight. This is either through a knockout standing up, or on the ground pummeling someones face in, or choking them out/forcing them to tap. Unless there is a knockout you can be pretty sure its going to the ground. And thats where Jiu-Jitsu succeeds, it specializes in peoples weaknesses. It's brilliant actually, and is sad you naive fools don't understand what fighting is really all about. A weak man has to start a fight, a strong one only defends himself when it is necessary.
All I see are a bunch of untrained clowns at the local Y>
Attacking? Shit most were lucky to even throw one punch.
Further all MA are mainly defensive.
The way to beat a Jui Jitsu guy is straight blasting the fucker, keep punching them and dont let them capitalize. This video is indicative of what not to do. we see Jui Jitsu guys being dominated by aggressive strikers now in the Cage.
SlayerofFiction That's all I see too. thumbs up
realityme EVERY Mma fighter trains Jiu Jitsu. Argument invalid...
Mike Hawk Your comment makes no sense. This footage is footage the 80's maybe early 90's. Secondly, I presented no argument.
SlayerofFiction
dummy every good MMA fighter nowadays are BJJ black belts. They ALL train Jiu-jitsu. Go into any BJJ school and challenge a blue belt. See how tough they are. Then challenge a purple belt. You will question your manhood. Maybe then you will be ready to learn browns and black belts. You bjj haters are funny. I guess ignorance is bliss.
Awesome video man. I've never seen this video before. Very cool share and great description. And here I thought I've seen most of Gracie's videos.
The awkward moment when the jujitsu guy got in a choke and almost tap out
yeah,i thought the same .if only the karate (?) guy knew how to wrap hiw legs around him ...
@@sakismark1104 Exactly, the chokee is usually safe if the choke is on the opposite side. Less leverage.
If u mean 7:50
The guy didn't have a chance ...
You can never chocke someone in a guillotine while being full mounted
The homeless challengers were holding up a sign saying: " WILL FIGHT GRACIES FOR FOOD"
This was like watching a dad wrestle his toddlers. The difference in skill and ability is drastic.
Now type in the Gracie hunter. You’re welcome.
Jesse B ☝🏼
They don't speak his name I hear
You mean the guy that beat some Gracies after training Jujitsu and lost to Gracies as well? He was beaten into retirement.
The Gracie students in this video could have benefited from some wrestling. Their takedowns are terrible, like most of the Gracies.
True, takedowns are the one flaw in BJJ. They didn't really matter back in the day, though. It's not hard to take a striker down, while wrestlers and Judo players would complete the takedowns FOR the BJJ practitioner.
Once the fight was on the ground, the BJJ guy would win every time. Wrestlers could pin, but had no submission defense. Judo players knew some submissions, but had no knowledge of positioning like a BJJ practitioner.
back then really the only martial art that incorporated multiple arts was shootfighting. wasnt until like 6 years later that people started incorporating wrestling, muai thai, and BJJ together, which is why the fighter from the early 90s cant touch the fighters of today.
bluesdealer That's still the situation unless you face off against a UFC fighter. Pretty low odds, or rather, really high odds that you'll win with GJJ basic techniques.
Brian Saez Yeah I think BJJ is most effective when incorporated in MMA, where you will invariably encounter some cross training with wrestling for the takedowns.
@Mississippi Ditch Fisher "The Gracie Killer." i forgot his real name.
Fighting full contact on a daily basis. Doesn’t get much more real.
I am a grappler, I do appreciate Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, but one thing you have to understand.. in the early 90's. The Gracies introduced their Rules in the Ring to the world after they had been fighting under those rules for 70 years.
This was a huge upset to the generic Martial Arts World. Most Martial Art relied on "STAND UP".. lets try to use the "Vibrating Fist Of Death" (or whatever), to take out an opponent.
Many and I mean MANY of the Martial Artists got their asses handed to them when this style of Martial Arts were introduced to the USA. They Thought that if they could punch or kick.. that was all the skill they needed... Until they found themselves tied in a knot by the Grappling Martial Arts.
The earliest Days of UFC/MMA Proved... You had to have grappling skills or you were toast....... Ya you might get lucky and Punch or Kick some guy before he grabs one of your limbs and creates a new double joint.. .but realistically.. it showed you need to be able to Box, Kick Box and Grapple or you were just going to get your ass kicked.
In the early 90's the Gracies dominated, (along with the Wrestlers), but several years later the MMA movement, surpassed the Gracie style and moved on to incorporate Many, Many more techniques. After 70+ years of stagnation, the whole MMA Movement, Adapted many of the Killer Gracie's techniques and brought many, many more styles into the Art form to produce the modern MMA system.
This is the best of the best.. .take all techniques from all Martial Arts, (and newly formed Martial Arts), and use only the best of the best moves... ie drop the attitude on "I Was Trained in This Art.. (insert what ever stupid, limited Martial Art you think is best) and Open your Mind to the VAST new Martial Arts out there.
(Seriously guys.. Your CRANE KUNG FU etc.. may be great for beating up untrained Peasants, but it cannot compete with modern MMA).
Sluggo
P.S. I am not a boxer or Kickboxer... if I get into a match with them... My only shot is avoiding their first blow and grabbing a limb so I can make new joints etc. Because of my lack of Boxing/Kickboxing.. I am gimped for MMA... maybe someday I will change that. But I am very proud of my Grappling ability, and I am pleased to have that training. Note to young people... who are not THUGS.. Take some MMA training!!! Do not settle for some "Standard" Martial Art!
Sluggo
White crane kung gu has grappling, idiot
The Gracie Family brought reality back to the fighting arts.
The proof is in the pudding. The greatest most realistic and affective style of martial arts the world has ever seen.
Dude in the Boxers in two of the last three fights had fantastic TDD
that punch was uncalled for even if its vale tudo, still a punk move
First dude was like... "Wait a minute, I've never seen blood from my nose like this before."
“No one makes me bleed my own blood”
reason why the last guy was so mad at the end, was cause the wrestler had him. Had the wrestler kept in training he would have won easily (anyone listening herd him say he hasnt wrestled in a while). If he has any knowledge of boxing or even muay thai (i counted 4 times he could have blasted the jujitsu guy with some knees), the jujutsu guy would be dead and he knew it.
I already have boxing and muay thai experience, looks like wrestling is the way to go for me.
"he would have won easily" - you sound like you haven't been in many fights
In BJJ, the "almost had him" is about 6 - 8 years apart from "getting him", trust me ;) the wrestler may have almost had him to you but when you get a little more wrestling experience you will see he had no chance, he got lucky a few times with strength that's about it
4c00h Absolutely right my friend.
Plus if he stayed in that position,its because he knew he was in control.
And TENNSUMITSUMA ,of course wrestling is a "must"!No BJJ practitioner would deny that.But if you're talking MMA,you cant do it w/o jits.Not only a base but a very strong base.
You have a cpl yrs of total dedication right there.Its way easier to learn other MA when your grappling skills (jits,wrestling,judo) are already high.
But BJJ is such an amazing and interesting art,before you know it you'll be half way there.Go for it.
4c00h
I find that hard to believe considering the guy said he handn't done it in a while (im guessing wrestling) and yet royce still couldn't beat him. i didn't see any tap, only him stopping cause he was tired.
pkl1302
boxing, muay thai, submission-catch wrestling and tkd (
TENNSUMITSUMA Sakuraba knew Jiu-Jitsu man. He is a Japanese. Do you know how the Catch Wrestling was made??? Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was made between 1920-1925. Catch was born after a long time period. They analyzed their tactics well and then created it. Do you know the Catch Wrestling teacher of Sakuraba? He is the founder of that. Before he made his art, he was just a classical wrestler. Like Helio's story. Before he created BJJ, he was just a Kosen Judoka. There was only one Sakuraba, but there were many Gracies and they were undisputed. :D
i think its great to show the doubters that bjj is an amazing and very effective martial art but i couldnt help but notice how unsportsman like some of the winners were like slapping away the other guys hand these guys knew nothing about grappling the least you can is give them credit that they got in there
I was thinking the same thing. I can't figure out if those were unsportsman hand slaps, or the adrenaline-fueled equivalent of a high-five. Either way, a handshake would have gone a long way.
Great vid, nonetheless.
Those were some serious late releases of the choke on the taps.
They did not keep it playful
Ray G of course not. You don’t challenge Gracie.
Ke abusadores son esos karatecas le ponen a uno ke no sabe defenderce.
@@thetruecrusades9250 oh please...👎
Sakuraba!
He beat Quinton Jackson and Kevin Randleman. I love it when the Oriental beats the black guy. (Assuming we are thinking of the same "Sakuraba")
Taught them A few manners.....
Sakuraba show the world how is done, and even make some of the Gracie’s learn how to quit.
Sakuraba was a unique individual who figured out how to defeat 4 of the Gracie family members. He eventually lost a rematch to Royce. The Gracie JiuJitsu art lives on despite the losses some practitioners experienced.
the Gracie killer!
Rorion, "wanna go again? Go as many times as you want" lol
what's with that one guy in the t-shirt at the very end not willing to shake hands.
Ianoodin One of the important aspects of Martial Arts is self discipline and emotional control. So no, he shouldn't of acted like a douche.
Ianoodin These people you're responding to have never played any sports or do any thing that is competitive. They're straight keyboard warriors talking bullshit about emotional control. C'mon now.
MMA bas rutten Self discipline is always needed kid, one day when you lived a little and grown up we can have a discussion.
Ianoodin The Gracie family are not just "everyone" they have many decades of experience and training in martial arts and they're all taught from a young age.
So if one of them enters a fight knowing they're going to win I'd expect them to show some discipline and good sportsmanship. Comparing them to some knuckle headed footballer is ludacris.
Ianoodin You're still running with that? comparing footballers to life long Martial artists in terms of discipline? lol ok kid.