I got the Pro, it’s a great piece of hardware, Sony exclusives look great, but some developers need to understand better PSSR before implementing it. I’m enjoying the console so far.
@RonchyPR I agree. I noticed the difference on VR2 as well. I'm happy with my purchase. I'm looking forward to the future games. It's harder to optimize already existing games with the tech, than build future ones from the ground up using the tech.
Its black Friday that 700 i rather get a new tv and some new games. I just don’t see the need to get it unless you like having the latest most updated PlayStation. Ps5 og still looks very modern and plays the latest games
@ you can still play all the games on a base ps5. I feel like its scam like they make base ps5 games run bad on purpose so they can make a pro and than the games they make it run well on that.
@@Artursamvelyan-ny9zk for what I'm seeing that's not the case. I mean third party devs have no reason to fake that. A lot of games are struggling already on base and the pro gives them that extra bit. I think it's more likely devs going forward naturally aiming for the pro and downscaling for the base, whereas now it's the other way around with some games getting mixed results as a consequence. But overall I'm very happy with the pro and those extra FPS. Is it worth it the 200 dollars, 300 with disc drive? Probably not but you know. I also don't think the edge is worth what they're asking nor PSVR2. Nor Bravia tvs or Vaio notebooks. Nor Mac books or iphones. And yet here we are.
Sony needs to discontinue the PS5 in 2025/2026 and reduce the price of the PS5 pro to the original PS5. They could also lose a 1TB to be able to reduce the price.
I think the base PS5 i just bought a PS5 slim is perfectly good enough for console gaming. And if I want high end gaming. (real High end gaming) I just put my PC with a 4080 Super on. Especially when it cost twice as much for a few extra fps and some slightly fancier graphics but nothing major. I am impressed with my PS5 Slim though. Very nice bit of Kit for the money.
There's going to be some growing pains because pssr is new. Some game developers executed right out of the gate, and others not so much. (Silent Hill 2)👀. Most of the games I tested looked fantastic, and the performance was an improvement. Give it some time. They'll get the hang of it, and Sony will continue to update pssr. I'm starting to thank unreal engine 5 only works well with its own tsr implementation. 🤷
The industry should encourage 1080p as a decent resolution. Imagine 1080p with super ray tracing to offset the resolution drop.my 1080p monitor is better than my tv to be honest.
People say that ps5 pro is getting closer to pc, no chance while ps5 pro is 6 years behind on old tech especially using the old cpu that was in the ps5 standard and they put it in the pro that’s having bottleneck issues. They should’ve put a newer apu inside. Anyone who’s either thinking of buying a ps5 pro wait till it drops down to £499 next year for a 1440p upscaled version you can get a decent graphics card that does all of this but native and not using any of these AI techniques. People deserve better for their money that’s why just buy a pc.
Who cares what people play video games on? As long as they're having fun, that's what matters. The Switch is the real peanut gallery in terms of hardware, but it's made Nintendo a lot of money.
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Why are people going so nuts over the system it blows my mind if you bought one they're trying to say that you're horrible and you spend money on bs and if they didn't spend money on it they're still running there mouth about it and if the PC gamers they'll buy it just so they can run their mouth about it it's ridiculous I've never dealt with so much shit over spending money on something in my entire life I getting more crap on buying a PlayStation 5 pro then when I spent money on drugs it's crazy Don't make no sense and the funny thing is the system is sick it is an upgrade and I've noticed a huge difference it's amazing obviously they're going to do software updates and they're going to clean it up and fix a few things nothing's perfect it'll get better that's the point and when the PS6 comes out I'll buy that too and they'll probably run their mouth about it it's not as good as a $7,000 PC no shit dude no shit
Bloodborne was great on my qled gaming monitor at 1440p but as soon as i tried it on my lg oled it was noticeable right off the bat that it was worse. Went back on the monitor. Beat father Gascoigne on my first try aswel. Elden ring has given me skills i didnt know i had. Im happy with the pro.
I’m really really really enjoying the ps5 pro !!! This is coming from a game who had a RTx 4080 i9 13900KF setup . This thing is a beast and will be my main way of playing video games !! I grew up playing video games in the 90s visuals aren’t really that important to me as long as the games run well !! Look at how the games looked that we grew up with ….. we had fun didn’t we ?
I have a 4080 super / ryzen 7 7800x3d and couldn't imagine down grading like that. 4080 super has 53 teraflops to the 16 teraflop ps5 pro XD. The 4080 is 3 times more powerful then the gpu in the ps5 pro.
@@PCgamerChannel You can't compare FLOPS like that. Realistically the 4080 is about 1.75 the power if you consider the PS5 Pro to be ~6800 levels. 2x if you think it's more around 2080 Ti levels. It may be somewhere inbetween. Definitely not 3x.
I have 4080super/ryzen 7800x3d aswell and im running most of the AAA games on 100-160fps 4kdlss+fg. You cant measure the performance with the teraflops comparing a pc to console,but it definetely way more powerfull than ps5pro. I also own the og ps5,i dont hate consoles but the upgrade is so minimal,and patch dependant,the only very good looking games look like Sony first titles which i played them all😂 Sony barely releasing new first party titles which makes this non exciting.
I'm pretty sure I said this before but I'm playing on a Samsung S90C 55-in and it looks incredible such an amazing setup they compliment each other so well and they have all the bells and whistles it's a QD OLED I paid $1,592 for it definitely a great buy I think I've had it maybe a year close to a year even the speakers are incredible the base I had a surround sound system that's pretty amazing but the TV almost sounds clearer and better than the sound system like I find myself straining to hear what somebody saying on my surround setup a hearing better on the TV but at some point I'd like to get a nice sound bar setup from Samsung cuz they play well with their TVs we'll see The one I wants 2000
After years of playing HL2, Oblivion, Total War, Skyrim, Fallout, etc. mods; I'm liking that consoles aren't encouraging them outright. I used to spend more time selecting and configuring mods than I did playing the actual game, and mods more often than not would break the gameplay in some way or another.
I got a PS5 Pro with the disc drive for £640. I did not pay £800. I played a few games on it now and yes it does look better over the original PS5. Is it worth the full price difference? To me no. Good thing I waited and did not pay the full price to make it better value.
Besdides a visual uplift from pssr, is there any performance uplift? People keep comparing it to fsr and dlss but i dont see like a 30% uplift in fps or anything like that
There's a huge performance improvement in UE5 and PSVR2 games. Games that weren't capable of reaching the minimum frame rate for VRR before (48 Hz) are reaching it on the Pro. Especially in games that use PSSR. Vertigo 2 (VR) was nearly unplayable in certain levels due to the choppy frame rates, which the Pro fixed. No Man's Sky had a large visual upgrade-especially in VR. Metaphor was also borderline playable on the base PS5, which the Pro fixed. Saw big improvements in frame rates in Remnant II, Lords of the Fallen, Rise of Ronin, Ghostwire Tokyo, and Dragon's Dogma II.
23:27 the fact you didn't tell us this really shows how biased you are against nvidia. You finally admitted it..nothing is messing with nvidia esp at high end. I dont why you hate them so much..incredible product. Im 4k gamer i see how good it is daily.
Remember DLSS was awful at the start, PSSR is in a better condition released than what Nvidia released first... PSSR will get there its a very very good start for Sony.
Frog everyone knows its an APU, people are comparing EQUIVALENT performance. The fact is that you can beat the equivalent performance of PS5 Pro for the same price, especially because the CPU equivalent is very old and cheap now
You can't get equivalent performance of the PS5 Pro with a gaming PC for the same price. Especially not when you consider the 2 TB nvme SSD, Dolby Atmos support, and HDR10 UHD movie playback support. And good luck getting energy consumption as low as the Pro.
@mmstick PC had all that for years now lol it's new for consoles.Windows is mainly free and has its own anti-virus built in for free like (like your phone). But you did have 1 vaild point with energy consumption
Tractors and dozers.. 😆 One thing I will say owning 4 jd.. Trump is right to go after jd and them locking us out of self fixing tractors.. I am glad I never fell for the Obama administration of destroying my 4050 engin for government credits for a new tractor!
@frogboyx1Gaming well there's just nothing like people running their mouth and making you feel bad about your purchase it's my fault for letting it go there but I like to watch videos like this to get more education and it's exciting to see people talk about the system that you bought you know I do that with phones headphones any tech I buy I like to watch videos on it but it's hard when you got nothing but negative reviews You do a great job that's why I like to watch you but you know what I'm talking about You know what I'm saying about the other people running their mouth
If you can’t handle pronouns maybe you should live under a rock and hide . I don’t like it just like everyone else but if that makes you not like a video game and makes you not wanna play it you have a problem . Stop seeking negativity. Play games and have fun or just drop it . Child
Lol where was the rage with Spiderman 2 😂. But you know what maybe stay at home and not engage with the world..since times have changed since your hey day of 1932.
@bobjoe5937 your comment translated. Hey Frog did you hear these guys made a game that includes people not like us?? Yeah let's get them 😂 That's you 😂😂. Embarrassing.
@pietroscarpa2384 be more better with new games coming next 3 years Course it's not same on base as be on pro it has more power obviously that will improve things weather worth spending 800 that's up to the individual.
Has anyone ever said this about a ps console. That is proof in itself. Playstation always is hailed and respected..the pro getting shat on says so much.
By not emphasizing the AI learning at the beginning of the video automatically is going to confuse and misinform ppl about your “comparisons”.. only the nvidia 4070 and up cards have AI learning mechanisms or whatever. And bro… if there’s a new person watching you for the first time on this video they’re going to believe you’re a ps fan by what you’re saying.. let them all know you’re a proud disgruntled xbot please… It was the Xbox that bambozzled you all xbots thats why most of yall became disgruntled and become pc nerds let’s not skip that fact 😂. The og ps5 is the ONLY console carrying the console industry don’t be lying now come on lol.
Not true. AI upscaling is available for all RTX cards from 2018 onwards. People should stop getting tribal about where to play games and just pick what they want and have fun.
I got the Pro, it’s a great piece of hardware, Sony exclusives look great, but some developers need to understand better PSSR before implementing it. I’m enjoying the console so far.
I'm glad they didn't bamboozle you.
@@frogboyx1Gamingthe system will improve via updates. I got the series X too, and even Black Ops 6 looks better on the Pro. Is a great addition.
@RonchyPR I agree. I noticed the difference on VR2 as well. I'm happy with my purchase. I'm looking forward to the future games. It's harder to optimize already existing games with the tech, than build future ones from the ground up using the tech.
@@jullianpree6791up to the developers get best out of the ps5 pro over next 3 years
@@Time4utube You saying they won't? They did the same with the ps4 pro...
Its black Friday that 700 i rather get a new tv and some new games. I just don’t see the need to get it unless you like having the latest most updated PlayStation. Ps5 og still looks very modern and plays the latest games
A tv an a view games for only 700?
Yeah I already got a 65" OLED tv so I got the pro
@@pietroscarpa2384 no a new tv only and some new games. Ps5 pro money can go towards like other things
@ you can still play all the games on a base ps5. I feel like its scam like they make base ps5 games run bad on purpose so they can make a pro and than the games they make it run well on that.
@@Artursamvelyan-ny9zk for what I'm seeing that's not the case. I mean third party devs have no reason to fake that. A lot of games are struggling already on base and the pro gives them that extra bit. I think it's more likely devs going forward naturally aiming for the pro and downscaling for the base, whereas now it's the other way around with some games getting mixed results as a consequence. But overall I'm very happy with the pro and those extra FPS. Is it worth it the 200 dollars, 300 with disc drive? Probably not but you know. I also don't think the edge is worth what they're asking nor PSVR2. Nor Bravia tvs or Vaio notebooks. Nor Mac books or iphones. And yet here we are.
Sony needs to discontinue the PS5 in 2025/2026 and reduce the price of the PS5 pro to the original PS5. They could also lose a 1TB to be able to reduce the price.
PS6, ideally should release in 2027 not 2028...to keep console gaming running smoothly.
I think the base PS5 i just bought a PS5 slim is perfectly good enough for console gaming. And if I want high end gaming. (real High end gaming) I just put my PC with a 4080 Super on. Especially when it cost twice as much for a few extra fps and some slightly fancier graphics but nothing major. I am impressed with my PS5 Slim though. Very nice bit of Kit for the money.
I love my PS5 Pro and it costs less than ONE of my three PC monitors did 3 years ago. I am enjoying gaming again now 👍
There's going to be some growing pains because pssr is new. Some game developers executed right out of the gate, and others not so much. (Silent Hill 2)👀. Most of the games I tested looked fantastic, and the performance was an improvement. Give it some time. They'll get the hang of it, and Sony will continue to update pssr. I'm starting to thank unreal engine 5 only works well with its own tsr implementation. 🤷
The industry should encourage 1080p as a decent resolution. Imagine 1080p with super ray tracing to offset the resolution drop.my 1080p monitor is better than my tv to be honest.
Exactly my friend 1080p should still be acceptable
People say that ps5 pro is getting closer to pc, no chance while ps5 pro is 6 years behind on old tech especially using the old cpu that was in the ps5 standard and they put it in the pro that’s having bottleneck issues. They should’ve put a newer apu inside. Anyone who’s either thinking of buying a ps5 pro wait till it drops down to £499 next year for a 1440p upscaled version you can get a decent graphics card that does all of this but native and not using any of these AI techniques. People deserve better for their money that’s why just buy a pc.
Looks like a great purchase and appreciate the positivity.
You are welcome
Digital foundry made some people who thought they were in VIP seating realize they were in the Peanut Gallery 😂.
Outlaw textures 😂👊 oh boy!
DF was like Morpheus and pulled Ponies out of the illusion into their reality...the Peanut Gallery 😂@@OniiXGaming
@OniiXGaming according to frog a 1440p monitor will fix that 😂😂..lower res on low res textured?? Lmao
Says a proud 1080p low settings low testosterone user.
Who cares what people play video games on? As long as they're having fun, that's what matters. The Switch is the real peanut gallery in terms of hardware, but it's made Nintendo a lot of money.
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I’m interested in it….but I feel like I don’t need it tho…..so I may just wait til the next generation
Why are people going so nuts over the system it blows my mind if you bought one they're trying to say that you're horrible and you spend money on bs and if they didn't spend money on it they're still running there mouth about it and if the PC gamers they'll buy it just so they can run their mouth about it it's ridiculous I've never dealt with so much shit over spending money on something in my entire life I getting more crap on buying a PlayStation 5 pro then when I spent money on drugs it's crazy Don't make no sense and the funny thing is the system is sick it is an upgrade and I've noticed a huge difference it's amazing obviously they're going to do software updates and they're going to clean it up and fix a few things nothing's perfect it'll get better that's the point and when the PS6 comes out I'll buy that too and they'll probably run their mouth about it it's not as good as a $7,000 PC no shit dude no shit
Can’t lie I’m loving my pro on the oled tv
Bloodborne was great on my qled gaming monitor at 1440p but as soon as i tried it on my lg oled it was noticeable right off the bat that it was worse. Went back on the monitor. Beat father Gascoigne on my first try aswel. Elden ring has given me skills i didnt know i had. Im happy with the pro.
Hell yeah brother it definitely looks better on a 1440p monitor
Tech Power up says the Pro has...
16.74 TFLOPS @ 2180 MHz
18.05 TFLOPS @ 2350 MHz Boost
I’m really really really enjoying the ps5 pro !!! This is coming from a game who had a RTx 4080 i9 13900KF setup . This thing is a beast and will be my main way of playing video games !! I grew up playing video games in the 90s visuals aren’t really that important to me as long as the games run well !! Look at how the games looked that we grew up with ….. we had fun didn’t we ?
I have a 4080 super / ryzen 7 7800x3d and couldn't imagine down grading like that. 4080 super has 53 teraflops to the 16 teraflop ps5 pro XD. The 4080 is 3 times more powerful then the gpu in the ps5 pro.
@@PCgamerChannel You can't compare FLOPS like that. Realistically the 4080 is about 1.75 the power if you consider the PS5 Pro to be ~6800 levels. 2x if you think it's more around 2080 Ti levels. It may be somewhere inbetween. Definitely not 3x.
@@PCgamerChannel because console peasants love lying about having a pc 😂
I have 4080super/ryzen 7800x3d aswell and im running most of the AAA games on 100-160fps 4kdlss+fg.
You cant measure the performance with the teraflops comparing a pc to console,but it definetely way more powerfull than ps5pro.
I also own the og ps5,i dont hate consoles but the upgrade is so minimal,and patch dependant,the only very good looking games look like Sony first titles which i played them all😂
Sony barely releasing new first party titles which makes this non exciting.
@@BrooklynBornn stop lying you don't have a pc 😂
I'm gonna wait for the PS 6.
I'm glad you like your PS5 Pro
Me too
I'm pretty sure I said this before but I'm playing on a Samsung S90C 55-in and it looks incredible such an amazing setup they compliment each other so well and they have all the bells and whistles it's a QD OLED I paid $1,592 for it definitely a great buy I think I've had it maybe a year close to a year even the speakers are incredible the base I had a surround sound system that's pretty amazing but the TV almost sounds clearer and better than the sound system like I find myself straining to hear what somebody saying on my surround setup a hearing better on the TV but at some point I'd like to get a nice sound bar setup from Samsung cuz they play well with their TVs we'll see The one I wants 2000
Mods is what i do miss on consoles
After years of playing HL2, Oblivion, Total War, Skyrim, Fallout, etc. mods; I'm liking that consoles aren't encouraging them outright. I used to spend more time selecting and configuring mods than I did playing the actual game, and mods more often than not would break the gameplay in some way or another.
I got a PS5 Pro with the disc drive for £640. I did not pay £800. I played a few games on it now and yes it does look better over the original PS5. Is it worth the full price difference? To me no. Good thing I waited and did not pay the full price to make it better value.
I returned it and bought LG UltraGear OLED monitor for my pc master race
Good choice
Besdides a visual uplift from pssr, is there any performance uplift? People keep comparing it to fsr and dlss but i dont see like a 30% uplift in fps or anything like that
Mostly 20fps more. You have to consider that pssr also costs and takes resources from the GPU.
It really depends on the game but mostly it just feels stable while delivering a good 4k image
There's a huge performance improvement in UE5 and PSVR2 games. Games that weren't capable of reaching the minimum frame rate for VRR before (48 Hz) are reaching it on the Pro. Especially in games that use PSSR.
Vertigo 2 (VR) was nearly unplayable in certain levels due to the choppy frame rates, which the Pro fixed. No Man's Sky had a large visual upgrade-especially in VR. Metaphor was also borderline playable on the base PS5, which the Pro fixed. Saw big improvements in frame rates in Remnant II, Lords of the Fallen, Rise of Ronin, Ghostwire Tokyo, and Dragon's Dogma II.
@@mmstick yea i figured there had to be they just havent really been showing it anywhere, thats good tho
23:27 the fact you didn't tell us this really shows how biased you are against nvidia.
You finally admitted it..nothing is messing with nvidia esp at high end.
I dont why you hate them so much..incredible product.
Im 4k gamer i see how good it is daily.
Remember DLSS was awful at the start, PSSR is in a better condition released than what Nvidia released first... PSSR will get there its a very very good start for Sony.
Your a good dude. Keep it up.
Thank you 😊
Frog everyone knows its an APU, people are comparing EQUIVALENT performance. The fact is that you can beat the equivalent performance of PS5 Pro for the same price, especially because the CPU equivalent is very old and cheap now
yeah ok mate same price without antivirus, without operating system, without controller, and i gurantee not the same performance.
You can't get equivalent performance of the PS5 Pro with a gaming PC for the same price. Especially not when you consider the 2 TB nvme SSD, Dolby Atmos support, and HDR10 UHD movie playback support. And good luck getting energy consumption as low as the Pro.
@mmstick PC had all that for years now lol it's new for consoles.Windows is mainly free and has its own anti-virus built in for free like (like your phone). But you did have 1 vaild point with energy consumption
Great content thank you👍I like Ps5 Pro it's good Console that's my opinion.
Thanks for watching!
@@frogboyx1Gaming You're welcome.
Console, the gap to PC has got closer thats for Sure
Deere>CAT lol.
CAT bettah
LOL 😆 🤣 😂 i also have a Deere shirt
Tractors and dozers.. 😆
One thing I will say owning 4 jd.. Trump is right to go after jd and them locking us out of self fixing tractors.. I am glad I never fell for the Obama administration of destroying my 4050 engin for government credits for a new tractor!
Most PC games are broken and studder
Only on Nvidia
Nah AMD side cause FSR 😂@@frogboyx1Gaming
Wait Drive Club is 30 frames?
It's whatever the devs say it is ok?
@TerraWare 30 frames on a racing game is crime 😂
yeah always has been
It has always been 30fps, even on the PS4 Pro and base PS5.
Nvidia sucks, Sony sucks.
And I'm not saying you said anything I'm just venting
I can tell
@frogboyx1Gaming well there's just nothing like people running their mouth and making you feel bad about your purchase it's my fault for letting it go there but I like to watch videos like this to get more education and it's exciting to see people talk about the system that you bought you know I do that with phones headphones any tech I buy I like to watch videos on it but it's hard when you got nothing but negative reviews You do a great job that's why I like to watch you but you know what I'm talking about You know what I'm saying about the other people running their mouth
Hey Froggy, did you hear about Avowed pushing pronouns on people and their creative director saying he hates gamers?
If you can’t handle pronouns maybe you should live under a rock and hide . I don’t like it just like everyone else but if that makes you not like a video game and makes you not wanna play it you have a problem . Stop seeking negativity. Play games and have fun or just drop it . Child
No one cares and he's right to be annoyed with your average gamer. Buncha angry incels.
Lol where was the rage with Spiderman 2 😂. But you know what maybe stay at home and not engage with the world..since times have changed since your hey day of 1932.
@@c523jw7 I called Spiderman 2 out for the gay pride flags. It's trash.
@bobjoe5937 your comment translated. Hey Frog did you hear these guys made a game that includes people not like us?? Yeah let's get them 😂
That's you 😂😂. Embarrassing.
So basically, ps5 pro produces the same visual quality as base ps5 .
No, better.
@pietroscarpa2384 be more better with new games coming next 3 years
Course it's not same on base as be on pro it has more power obviously that will improve things weather worth spending 800 that's up to the individual.
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.
ps5 pro not worth it
Cool story bro, did your daddy baby mama sister brother and Uncle tell you that or did you meet the decision for yourself?
Has anyone ever said this about a ps console. That is proof in itself.
Playstation always is hailed and respected..the pro getting shat on says so much.
By not emphasizing the AI learning at the beginning of the video automatically is going to confuse and misinform ppl about your “comparisons”.. only the nvidia 4070 and up cards have AI learning mechanisms or whatever.
And bro… if there’s a new person watching you for the first time on this video they’re going to believe you’re a ps fan by what you’re saying.. let them all know you’re a proud disgruntled xbot please… It was the Xbox that bambozzled you all xbots thats why most of yall became disgruntled and become pc nerds let’s not skip that fact 😂. The og ps5 is the ONLY console carrying the console industry don’t be lying now come on lol.
It's all about them AI learning micro organisms
Not true. AI upscaling is available for all RTX cards from 2018 onwards. People should stop getting tribal about where to play games and just pick what they want and have fun.
This comment made me LOL hella hard XD
I've grown up past the xbox v playstation debate
Enjoy gaming if thats xbox pc or playstation then all that matters
Indiana jones be interesting on the pro
Good thing it’s 60 fps on the Xbox Series X and Series S on launch. I will play the game through GamePass