Call for Australians to be ‘critical’ of changing place names with Indigenous alternatives
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- Wordsmith and broadcaster Kel Richards calls on Australians to be “critical” of corporations replacing place names with Indigenous variations.
“They don’t replace the names; they give them double names, so in fact, Uluru is actually called, legally, Uluru slash Ayers Rock,” Mr Richards said.
“Those are the rules. You can dual name some things but only physical objects, and this idea they can rename entire cities is simply against the rules. It is against the law.”
Be critical..?
We already voted against this nonsense.
No, we didn't.
@@JackRichardsonM8Reported anyone today Hansel?👉🐛
I can't even reply to myself now, what a joke YT is.
@@JackRichardsonM8Yes. We. Did.
Yes. We. Did. Jack.
It's still Fraser Island, to me
and Ayres Rock, Mt Warning.
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@dea👍✅💪npd3402
Getting too confusing for the older generations 😕
No... It's silly and confusing to everyone! My cousin is aboriginal and his people are Kgari people.... And he didn't even know Kgari was spelt with a silent K.... It's all a load of crap
What woke bs? Someone needs to remind them that there are over 500 aboriginal languages and dialects. Using another tribe's language is actually an insult to many other Aboriginals.
Hence why the place names are endemic to any one of those 500 cultural regions! 😎
@@EducationWillSetYouFree they were nomads cooker. they were'nt endemic to anywhere.
Agreed, good call, may be we need some aborigine UFC to decide which tribe can change the name, at least that would be entertaining and earned.
@@Martinoconnor-du6lc Really? Where were they "nomadic"? All over Australia? No. Only in their own territory, moving to different food and water resources, ceremonial and religious sites etc, hence the large number of distinct languages.
How is it an insult?
They have NO RRIGHT to change names of places. SBS should be shut down, it’s bloody RUBBISH!
They are not, Idiot Politicians and Local Councils are.
Ayer's Rock sounds epic. Uluru does not.
Hooroo to Uluru
Uluru it will always be.
@_.Marz._ ease up on the soy.
Don't do it. They did it in NZ and no one knows what anyone is talking about or where anyone is going.
What, too stupid to read a map? 😆
@@EducationWillSetYouFree
Nah too weirded-out to recognise what Was recognisable - and Why tha change ?
Yeah if the majority don't want this to happen, HOW ABOUT DON'T MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
@ajf2u709 Exactly, that is there plan, divide and conquer.
@@EducationWillSetYouFree Hey Mr Education, are you too stupid to know or smell the stench of communism when its riding up yer clacker?
We need to give Albo his Indigenous name - traitor. He has divided us all and pushed an agenda to destroy Australians.
He was a houso you know...and likes to tell us that as often as he can.
Wankabilitee sounds more appropriate.
@@deanpd3402 Not as often as ScumMo alluded to his christianity.
@@Gough-jf9zfso? We are a Christian based country. I guess you follow Islam,?
At least Albo didn't attend the funeral of a paedophile.......George Pell and also still refuses to condemn Paedophiles
Most of the “indigies” don’t know the changed names anyway.
They know all the alcohol names in their local liquour shop.
Do you know most of us.?
I work with 7 aboriginal people. They all said these are just made-up names to sound aboriginal to rile up political aggression to continue the victim narrative. There was no aboriginal city's, so how did they have a name for a non existing city!?
I'm not going to use aboriginal names if I know them as something else. It won't help one indigenous person struggling. Ayers Rock, is Ayers Rock, Fraser Island is Fraser Island etc
Tell someone who cares, racist bogan! 😆
@@EducationWillSetYouFree
I care, and F you Hugely !
Apparently already happened to a lake in a suburb in Melbourne’s south east without asking the local community and it wasn’t for the aboriginals but for the Sikh’s of India which is even worse.
Funny how a fair number of locals joined the naming ceremony.
Aborigines didn't have cities. There is/was never a city called Naarm. It may be Melbourne on the Wurrundjeri lands, but it is Melbourne, NOT Naarm.
But "places" and landmarks had names.... if you build something on top of something with a name.. it doesn't change the name of the landmark or place..
@@Elron-l9p Indigenous cultures are inferior and not worthy of recognition.
If they place spans multiple landmark like a major city would?
Thats what i said. Its the city that is called Melbourne, it never had an aboriginal name.
Yep, totally. I've brought this up before - Melbourne IS NOT and WAS NEVER known as Naarm, Naarm refers to a general geographic region that Melbourne was built in, it DOES NOT refer to a city of any size or stature. This is similarly true for many of our "renamed" cities - the indigenous titles refer to a rocky outcrop or a river mouth or something along those lines, and trying to claim the city as having that name is simply misappropriation of the "place name"
Leave the known indigenous place names as they are, but changing the names of large cities is ridiculous. SBS. ( Silly Buggers Station. )
Sorry, but if these problematic people want ownership of things, they can clean up their act and take more responsibility.
Hard working, decent, law-abiding people in this country are tired of the endless problems that Labor are too busy virtue-signaling to confront.
When nothing changes.....nothing changes....
I've been critical since they tried to rename Ayer's Rock. It just gets worse abnd worse, more and more like a flocking goon cask.
Here in WA they tried to change the name of a suburb to an indigenous name. When it was put up for public consultation, another indigenous mob came along and claimed that the land was actually their land and that the other indigenous mob "stole" it from them..
Hundreds of indigenous mobs battled each other for territory and resources for 50 thousand years. By definition of the word "first", only one mob could be considered first, and those that came after must be invaders..
The indigenous people were the first colonists and engaged in abhorrent acts against each other long before the white man spilt any indigenous blood..
Which mob gets naming rights? 🤔
Every race and creed goes to war and commits atrocities. The indigenes weren't at constant war, the cost in the loss of their men was too high. Mostly they were at peace. Very small human population spread over a vast land, territorial disputes were few. Many practiced the "double horizon" method, creating a huge no-man's-land between tribes.
Same sort of thing happened in Canberra recently, one mob was 'recognised' as first, then another mob came along saying they were actually there first. Huge legal battle, and more. Ridiculous.
@Luum81 there was a gold mine shut down recently because two mobs were arguing over whose territory it was and who's customs were affected...
Most of the trouble in Alice Springs TODAY is tribal based..
I've worked for the government going out to remote indigenous communities and documenting the elders stories. You go to one community and they tell you the story of how the tribe down the road stole their land and then you go down the road and the other mob tells of the great battle where they conquered the other mob..
It's naive to think that the acts of colonisation weren't occurring between indigenous tribes for 50000 years before the 250 years of British settlement...
Indigenous people have enacted more harm, including war and displacement through their ancestoral bloodlines compared to anything any Englishman has done, but if both groups have engaged in the same actions, why does the finger of blame only get pointed in one direction? 🤔
@@ThaMassDebater Why does the finger of blame only get pointed in one direction? That's easy, because it's always the other person/mob at fault.
Honestly, if we acknowledged there was wrong done - by both sides - and then agree to walk forwards together as one nation and one people instead of a fractured mess pointing fingers and arguing with each other, this nation would grow strong. Oh for the day.
@Luum81 well said and I 100% agree. Too much division in this country because race grifting is a lucrative industry...
Speaking from Los Angeles CA, a liberal hellhole, I still call Ayers Rock "Ayers Rock".
Well you would be wrong it’s Uluṟu the traditional name for such a sacred place to the indigenous tribes of that area why do , why do we have to westernise everything to suit the invaders of this countr, your already trying to get rid of aboriginal identity by y removing the aboriginal flag it’s disgraceful
Well you would be wrong it’s Uluṟu the traditional name for such a sacred place to the indigenous tribes of that area why do , why do we have to westernise everything to suit the invaders of this countr, your already trying to get rid of aboriginal identity by y removing the aboriginal flag it’s disgraceful
It's Ayres Rock always will be not the other .
@@Psittacine-pp5yd it’s Uluṟu always has been Europeans came to this land
@@Psittacine-pp5yd and you can’t even say the word that’s how degrading people like you are to the indigenous inhabitants to this land
Ayres rock will ALWAYS be Ayres rock and that is what I HAVE TAUGHT my children.
Renaming things doesn't get aboriginal people away from crime and into jobs.
In fact, it's a slap in the face to all those hard working people of all races who have faced violence and discrimination from a percentage of the indigenous community that is far too large and far too problematic.
If Labor and its voters were educated, they'd want to get to the complicated heart of the matter.
@EducationWillSetYouFreeCOOKER solving the real problems means no more high paying jobs for bureaucratic paper shufflers, human wrights lawyers and U N Agencies.
UNEMPLOYMENT FOR ALL THE MARXIST BUMS AND LEECHES.
My opinion only.
How is one connected to the other?
oh you're back since the shock of Trump winning and NT and QLD losing 🤣 MAGA MAGA ❤❤
@@ACDZ123 Same old claim. Zero imagination. Don't get your avatars mixed up again. Apparently there's software to save you from that.
@@indiathylane2158 how's tennis albo going? Oh he's going alright .makes scomo look like an amateur 🤣
Don’t do the renames, never will. Enough of the woke crap.
Kel you are a gentleman .Joe you talk too much. Thanks Liz.
Got to love Liz
Here's the thing, before European colonization, there were around 500 distinct Aboriginal tribes, each defined by unique languages, customs, and territories. Linguistically, there were approximately 200 to 300 distinct languages, many of which had multiple dialects. So the question is: what aboriginal tribe language are they using? I'm not going to hold my breath for an answer.
Let’s push to rename all the exclusive multi million dollar suburbs to aboriginal sounding names
Bless the UK farmers! May they win!
As much as im a fan of Jacinta Price, after reading ''The Whole Truth'', anything to do with traditional First peoples culture should be avoided at all costs.
Agreed, It's their culture not ours.
@@RogueElementMkII It's their country, not ours!
@@EducationWillSetYouFreeYou're wrong.
It's "our country" that includes indigenous people.
@@RogueElementMkIItheir culture doesn't amount to much, but what there is, they can have.
@@RogueElementMkIIit sure is my country.
I work my a-s off to live in this country. I sure paid my way to be part of it.
Oh and I never broke the laws of this country either, because I respect them!
Being an Aussie of European Origin Ayers Rock will always be Ayers Rock to me.
It.s a load of crap!!! 😡😡😡
NO MEANS NO.
Name changes should be done only under referendum, not by virtue-singling politicians and clerks.
They can rename Melbourne back to its previous short lived name, “Batmania”.
I recently had a text message from Boorloo PHU asking me to click on a link. Naturally I ignored it thinking it was scammers, turns out it was a public health message telling me I’d been at a medical centre where someone had measles. Yep, some genius at WA health decided to do that to a serious public health message and apparently Boorloo is Perth in aboriginal… if that individual is not sacked it is an outrage!
Changing names to Aboriginal names is happening more and more in WesternAustralia. Example; new extension to Forest Highway, Bunbury South has been named "WILMAN WADANDI Highway.
Australia is an English speaking country and possibly not many younger Indigenous people would understand the names. Trying to appease the Indigenous Elders by changing names of cities, towns, rivers, highways etc., isn't going to undo the past and make everyone feel great. Politicians get a kick out of receiving praise for the name changing.
GOOD! Keep up the name changes 👍
Lots of Aussie kids learn aboriginal languages, usually local ones. Indigenous community leaders often organise extra tuition for kids who want it. But I must admit, Bunbury-Perth, "Mandjoogoordap Drive" is a mouthful.
I listen to ABC radio frequently and this is completely OUT OF CONTROL. More and more they aren't even using the real, gazetted place names.
I dont speak aboriginal nope wont be doing it ....
Only 500 plus to choose from.
No one wants to lol 😆
But you speak many foreign languages when you name Aussie cities and towns. They come from Old English, Irish, Scottish, French, German, Spanish and many other languages. Please explain the difference.
@@Gough-jf9zf still crying from the NT QLD election defeat? Or was it MAGA Trump that tipped you over the edge?😆 now Dutton is going to get rid of the other 2 useless flags..ha ha that sealed his election victory in a few months..must be sad times for you gough twitlam 🤣
It’s just gaslighting.
Sky? Yep!
@@EducationWillSetYouFree no you wokey
Same thing in Canada .Our woke city council changed all the voting wards in Edmonton to Cree names which no body can pronounce or remember .Of course the taxpayers are paying for it .
Enough virtual signalling time to do things that actually improves lives
There were no cities in Australia prior to colonisation. A place is not a city
Our education system teaches place names in a subject called geography. Any name NOT taught in official geography is both confusing and in my mind against Australian culture.
As for indigenous place names they are not the name that was known to all Aboriginals simply because the aboriginals did not travel across the entire continent sharing place names and often were unable to leave their own tribal area due to threat of death at the hands of their local enemy tribe. Add to this the simple fact that Aboriginals had no written language and so could not record places names for future generations. Place naming was a matter of description rather than the European idea of place naming protocol.
I do not watch the ABC, (Aboriginal Broadcasting Corporation) and I definitely do not watch the SBS, (Subversive Belligerent Separatists). Whilst the ABC and the SBS were initially great nation building organisations they quickly devolved into propaganda weapons wielded by the WOKE leftist minority. I refuse to spend any of my time and money in any place that has a different name to the one I was taught in school. I even avoid any place that acknowledges the original inhabitants of the land unless they include my European ancestors, (which they never do, even though modern Australia was built by the European immigrants). Secondly I am a supporter of stopping all commonwealth funding of the divisive woke media that the ABC and SBS have become. They are trying to destroy Australia through divisive propaganda I have married a number of times and had numerous children. My children are of different racial mixes and I do not consider myself to be racist but I do hate anything or anyone who goes out of their way to destroy the home country of my family or myself.
Noooooooooooooooooooooo Modi was doing the same in India. He was changing names of cities to their former ancient ones. These people call themselves "Guardians of the ancient world". Donot let them change the names. If we are stuck to the ancient world, we will never move ahead.
India that is BHARAT is an ancient civilization for Sanatana dharma Hindus Buddhists and Jain's
Australia is still under British monarchy as Head of the state and representative taking oath of allegiance on King Charles
Australia,USA ,Canada and Newzealand are not European countries
They don’t want to move forward, it’s too hard for them
What is Aboriginal for ABC and SBS? What Aboriginal currency can we pay the staff with?
Moms gunna fix it all soon... Moms coming round to put it back the way it ought to be!
Brilliant and facts outweigh bullshit every time
Facts? Sky? 🤣
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Yep the only ones doing it
But they are the only ones without government funding or advising?
@@jamesplummer356 🤣
@@EducationWillSetYouFree what's it like to be perpetually wrong on everything you do and say? or are you to "educated" to notice?
@@EducationWillSetYouFree Thanks for proving yet again that "education" =/= "intelligence". Why ARE lefties so dumb, anyway? Does leftism make one stupid, or do stupid people just tend to gravitate to the infantile and naive leftist worldview?
I think they need to remember, when we invaded, who won and who lost.
Some of these people had better watch out because some Australians are getting very, very angry about all of this rubbish.
Ha try changing Wollongong s name!
You build a town, you are entitled to name it. Nothing is served by someone renaming it. Except confusion and backlash. Virtue-signalling is only perpetrated by people without virtue.
Why did Palmerston become Darwin? Many, many German-origin place names were changed to 'more English' during the world wars. Were they virtue signaling?
Are all the banks we fill with Australian money shown on the map with Aboriginal names. They never had their own system of writing and use our alphabet. This nonsense needs to stop!
They had physical records in their artwork. What looks like dots or hatches in their paintings can tell a detailed story. So too oral history, a very rich tapestry of their ancestors.
Tell that to Turkey Creek in Western Australia Kimberley region
75% of place names in Australia are already of Aboriginal origin, although not many of them are accurately transcribed.
Dual names is a ridiculous concept.
Names have been applied and should never be changed without universal consent of of the community.
By all means continue using Aboriginal place names for newly named locations... but do not change existing names as it is confusing.
Ayers Rock was just the start, we are failing the people that really built this country.
I've been doing just that for years. Everyone calls me names for it. I don't care.
I still call Ayers Rock,Ayres Rock.
Still misspelling, I see. Still using other avatars to post the same message?
Renaming for what, 3% of population? Must be kidding. Don't we already have indigenous names anyway, like Parramatta (NSW), Jimboomba (QLD), scattered throughout Australia? Surely this is enough. Just name 3% of the places, that should be about right.
It's like Saigon, locals still call it that.
They might be described as Aboriginal names for places, but as the early Aboriginees didn’t have a written language, these names are now written in English, spoken in English, translated in English, enunciations of each are in English, written in the English alphabet form and all probably vary from area to area. Instead of one actual spoken and written language ( aboriginal would have been drawings to leave an unspoken message on a cave wall for example) translated into another spoken and written language (English) all spelling and methods to show the written word of all Aboriginal words are in English and have a clear English influence to them. Surely to be accurate in translations surely drawings should be used, not English alphabet, otherwise isn’t it just English ? Just a thought!
That suggestion by Joe at the end of the piece (do the whole news bulletins in all indigenous languages) is probably a good idea, it would leave very little time left for their other rubbish programs.
Ayers Rock 🇦🇺💪
Woke bureaucracy gone mad…… again!
SBS used to be the prime channel of myself and most of my friends. None of us have watched for some years.
Vaccumed and mopped house, stuck in room
I don't care a name is a name.
Push back is coming.
BRING IT ON!
It's still Eyres Rock to me and still Frazer Island, there is enough Aboriginal names out there now we don't need any more they are just GREEDY
I love how a non written language can come up with a silent K and an apostrophe in K'gari. Utter BS.
If Australia keeps on with this nonsense, it's doomed
They are just telling a Whopper, or is that a Fraser island, or could that be a hamburger. It's a ridiculous joke.🤣🤬
Just NO!
Bloody Hell, she was loud.
When does partly cloudy become partly sunny
They try this stuff in America. Woke BS.
Always was Fraser Island, always will be Fraser Island
Just a daily reminder that Adelaide is called adelaide and not tarndanya. Nor ever will.
India changed many names, from English to Indian. Now, nobody knows where they are going!
What was the aboriginal name for grog? Beer, wine and spirits?
gimee gimee
No wonder I've given up watching free-to-air telly! I already live in a place with a long indigenous name and tired of having to spell this out to every single person that I need to give details to. I can't stand to hear of another broadcast that is coming to me from "the land of the ....... people". How far do they need to take this? We shouldn't be this confused in our own country! This is also an insult to all the other indigenous dialects of this land. Just leave good enough alone.🇦🇺
The reason the Aborigines gave names to places in their language is so that THEY knew what and where they were talking about, Europeans gave names in English for EXACTLY the same reason.
In Brisbane they have named Railway stations with Aboriginal names. No one knows where they’re going, no one knows where they’ve been, no one uses the trains. Total BS.
Oh, take me back to Constantinople!
Forgot beer in restricted area
This renaming of places to aboriginal names is total bullshit.
How lucky in Australia to have home fresh water food cars doctors hospitals medicine all the good things, better than nothing unless you like nothing not even a roll of toilet paper
Did I move to another country last night ?
Our crap local council decided to change the name of Fishers Ghost Creek to some aboriginal name I can not say, and I am aboriginal.
They have been trying to kill Fishers Ghost Festival for years, but we should support pride week. ( More forced inclusion )
Good thing with most TV's now you can delete ABC and SBS for good :)
If you don't have a written language, you can't have written place names.
It's the English language doing their best interpretation of spoken words. English.
I sort of support it in the numerous cases where an Australian town or geographic feature has been given the same name as a place in Britain -like Liverpool for example - or Brighton,Armadale,the Derwent river, the Avon river, Albany, Newcastle and many many more. It helps to have an unique moniker and avoids confusion. There is a sizeable city called London in Ontario, Canada and I'm sure this causes endless confusion. The capital of Zimbabwe (formely Rhodesia) used to be called Salisbury (now Harare) the original Salisbury is a cathedral city in England - I think there is a Salisbury in South Australia too -would be logical to change its name to an aboriginal word too. But let's not choose words that are very hard to spell -like Nggunawwal or something like that -keep them phonetic!
How about we change places names based on the majority culture of the community? Seems the most fair concept.
Joe the snivelling little lefty has come out his closet and is now allowed to express his true thoughts. I think this version of him is worst.
I call things as I know it, I'm not changing now. Not for anyone. Sorry not sorry.
I never use aboriginal names.
I like those different sounding names, i think it gives Australia unique-ness. It's a white colonised continent but has mystique. Like not just another boring name. It makes Australians look smart bc theyre saying and reading these words that look welsh.
A little town on the way down to Wangaratta is called Carraragarmungee, one of my favourites.
Nice take on the matter, cheers!
@@EducationWillSetYouFree YAFI. That is all.
Same problem in New Zealand. The vast majority of place names and geographic features in New Zealand have Maori names but a small percentage of activist Maoris egged on by white, woke academics and urban elites are set on a course to remove all non Maori place names. A legacy of Jacinda Ardern's divisive, racist regime.
Remember when Fraser Island dingoes were renamed Wongari because that was the Aboriginal name. Then it was pointed out that Dingo was already an Aboriginal name. So, do dingoes get called a different name depending on which tribal land they are on?
Hundreds of places in Australia have place names from different languages- French, German, Italian, Spanish...
Lots of German-origin towns had their names changed during world wars. Everyone changes names, so what is your point?
@@Gough-jf9zf So we agree. Changing the original Aboriginal names to English names to suit an English speaking country was no big deal. Everyone changes names.
@@anordenaryman.7057 So we agree. You want to change every city's name to an indigenous one. Good for you, I'll second your suggestion.
@@Gough-jf9zf Well, of course. Changing all the place names to the only language that the current indigenous population speaks is only natural.
Truth is this country of ours will snap in rage if we don't stop trouble makers that want cival unrest .
The real story is Australia towns 60 percent of them already have indigenous names but people are too dumb to know that
I don’t even bother to watch SBS because of this WOKE crap. What’s the point of using names 99 percent of Australians won’t know?
Let's get rid of Wahronga. Turramurra. 😂
Uluru it is no Uluru it is called kickaginalong
I can’t pronounce their words and names. Hell most people still struggle with English.
Why should we? Australia is OUR land not just theirs
It costs a fortune to change place names. All maps and databases etc have to be changed. Signage, etc. It is a massive expense.
And then the delivery drivers have to try and work out where they're supposed to be going with (new) woke place names that refer to the same places they've been going for years, with triple the letters in the name and 6 variations (plus typos) of how it's spelt, while the indigenous place name meant something like "the place where the roos gather in winter" referring to some grassy gully with winter sun that no longer exists and thus has no actual relevance to that place anymore..
@keithraymer9742 Google maps voice directions will be funny I guess in your car.
Also how is not inappropriate to convert aboriginal spoken languages into written English