That man is the sweetest, most genuine man i've seen in a while. He looks at her with wonder and interest, not disgust or judgement. And she herself was a beautiful person. Rest in peace lovely.
She was an extraordinarily gifted photographer. It's heartbreaking that she lost her battle. Rest in peace, Lene Marie. Your legacy lives on. I will certainly watch the documentary and the exhibits.
@Layla W And I'm very disturbed that you can't look beyond the disorder to the genuine talent beneath it. I was first inttoduced to Lene Marie Fossen back in 2015 through an article that featured her photographic depiction of regugees in Greece, and I was blown away by the honesty in her photos. Not a word was uttered about Fossen other than that she was the photograoher. I only learnt of her story later. Acknowledging her (very obvious) talent doesn't make you an enabler.
Layla W So because she took self portraits that means all her other work should be completely disregarded? No. She was a talented photographer. I’m curious as to what your view of Imelda Bell’s work is?
Layla W You like to put words in people’s mouths don’t you? None of us know what was going on behind the scenes so you can’t comment on what people were or weren’t doing. The thing here is you’re not coming across as someone concerned for someone else’s wellbeing, something has clearly struck a nerve but your words are incredibly callous. I ask again though, have you seen Imelda Bell’s work? Again I would be very curious as to your opinion on it.
Layla W Please show me at what point I have said any of what you’re claiming I have. And talent matters nothing matters when you’re dead? Well I have news for you sweet pea, death is inevitable, so should no one bother doing anything with their life because eh gonna die anyway...? And I ask yet again. Imelda Bell. Opinion.
Eugenia Coony ,is also a very incredibly skinny TH-camr . Surprises me with her too that she has the energy to stream for five hours and talk so much ( not as this girl tho ) but some anorexic people ,their bodies react differently and they lay on the couch without energy to hardly talk or do anything. Bodies are reacting sometimes so so different on the same things. Some loose hair and teeth others doesn't, some have energy some not, some get osteoporosis, some don't, some get seizures, some not ,some wants to get well some not ,even all types of unhealthy trauma to our bodies, forexample addicts can use the same amount of drugs ,be same size and used for similar time and one get so sick with withdrawals it's more than their bodies can take and last for months ,while the friend can function within five days ,one can age super fast and the other can look healthy and young for 20 years while the other looks old after two years. That's why I often think forexample when someone talk down and say he's such a baby, he cries getting tattooed, what a woss..I can't stop to think if they switched bodies, the tough man who sat through without a tear or face expression, wouldn't felt so superior had he experienced being in the" woss" body . Thinner skin with more sensitive nerves would make it suddenly feel so much worse, he wouldn't be able to will power away tears from running and expressions revealing his sensitive skin. Like how impressive is it for someone without fear of heights to stand on the edge of a high building compared to someone with a body who tremble with fear and his head gets dizzy and anxiety is a consequence because the feeling of lack of control makes him fear it so much. It's our bodies who sends signals we're built different. I never feared heights because my brain didn't send signals I was in danger, but put me in a cold ocean and my body freezes so much I hyperventilate and sometimes cramp up . The bodies we have react so different that will power and being tough isn't aways enough, and it's unfair sometimes. Training can help, but not always. Just sharing my thoughts;)
You would be surprised what a body can get used to. Whether or not she has the CALORIES, nutrients and things like electrolytes are what keep someone's body and mind going. I started to have organs shutting down from a massive weight loss, due to my potassium levels. Hypokalemia, not fun. Brain boiling itself in your skull. I didn't have to get to a minuscule size to make my body tank out, I just needed to be nutrient deficient enough.
@@breaddog420 actually when you're starved enough, your body goes into a Survival Mode. When I used to restrict on purpose, adrenaline took place of energy. Mania took place of focus.
The interviewer is very professional. He doesn’t interrupt her, even when he laughs. He knows what to ask to move the interview forward. She’s very introspective here and not afraid to say what she wants and how she feels.
To be honest he isn’t a good interviewer, you can tell he’s basically asking questions that he has written down, he’s not listening to what she’s saying and asking questions based on that. He has a sort of tunnel vision with the set questions he has
@@silvied6123 she’s not glorifying it in her photos at all, if she was the theme of the photos would be completely different. The background and objects she uses in her self portraits make the photos come off as more distant, cold and less welcoming. In my opinion it’s more like she’s trying to show us how bad a condition like hers could get
That’s an interesting theory. Unlike the other comments. Is it her photography that makes you say that? Or her experiences or her illness? Or interests?
Alba Douek not sure exactly what you mean. She has the recognition, she wanted to be known not for her disorder, but her photography. She wasn’t saying that in a desperate attempt for recognition. Or maybe I misunderstood your comment.
No, I think OP misunderstood her situation and what she was saying. I agree that it was a very strange comment by OP. She’s not looking for recognition, she’s just trying to not be known only for her disease, sadly many people still can’t see past it.
I battled with anorexia 10 years ago, it was the darkest time of my life. I have no recollection of most events that happened Thru that time that I suffered with it. I’m happy to say that I’ve been healthy and thriving for more than 10 years and I’ve found a new love into the gym, fitness and specially, lifting. It is my passion. I went from 80 pounds to 180 pounds of happiness and muscle. I live for those that didn’t. I pray for everyone that is currently and previously have suffered from this. There is a comeback and I promise you it’ll be so good
I struggled with an ED for 2 years and was able to overcome it. I was close to 100lbs at my worst (I’m 5’10”). I had to quit dance and cheer and get professional help to move forward. A few months into recovery I met my husband and a year later we had a child. I know some with ED struggle with weight gain during pregnancy, but carrying my child healed me. I’ve never struggled with under-eating since becoming a mother. I now have 5 beautiful, healthy children.
The body is a resilient machine. It can run on minimum energy supply for years and years when it gets used to it. At her stage of sickness I guess it was impossible for her to gain any weight and still survive. Her organs were already too damaged. I love how she still used her time left wisely and with passion, that's more than most people have had until the end of their lives.
And it's sad none of those people did ANYTHING about her eating disorder and when she said she would rather be a perfesional photographer or fight through her disorder she chose precessional photographer it makes me sick 😔
@@jennifermartin2752 after 20 years and getting that poorly , she never would have been able to fully recover , her organs and muscles would have been too damaged . But I agree .
Yes, it's because they hate life subconsciously. It's inward anger at one of the parents, No, fault of thier own it's usually one of thier parents is overbearing.(controlling)
She probably was but eating disorders are incredibly difficult to actually treat and while eating can become easier you always are going to struggle with it. Lots of people that have a treated eating disorder end up relapsing sadly
@@bethanyferguson4719 Yeah, the documentary 'Emma wants to live' represents that accurately. As the title suggests, she did want to live and even though she had intensive treatment, she just wasn't able to get better.
आर्य रौद्र - actually, most of us do not want attention and want to be left alone with our illness. The people you see advertising anorexia on IG or Facebook or whatever, likely don’t have a true eating disorder.
@@kecrn4132 really!? Eating disorders have a different side too. Eating disorders have an extremely competitive side that many who go through treatment see all the time. A lot of those girls want to be the the sickest... i know all about it.
@@kecrn4132 you are absolutely correct. I've been battling anorexia for almost a year now and the very last thing most want is a spotlight on them. Isolation and being alone with the comfort of our disease is what we want most
Human pain. A courageous, ill, brilliant person was able to photograph and DEAL with suffering, tragic children. I have nothing to complain about. And so much to learn and grow. Much love to all of us.
It’s so misleading when they say some one “stopped eating” since she was 10 years old...this doesn’t help those of us who used to think this way (or still do) because it hints that you actually can live without eating and we can’t. I hope she finally found peace...she was so gifted❤️
Arie Houston Well yeah, but even just speaking of the years from 10 even just until this interview, it give a false impression that you BBC an stop eating and live for any great amount of time. Even the Norwegian Film Institute says she had “stopped eating 20 years ago”. That’s simply not possible 🤷🏻♀️
Katie B it’s all for dramatization. Anyone who honestly thinks you can’t eat for a period of time that long is uneducated and if it comes down to it they’ll figure it out. I don’t think it’s some big “misinformation” issue I think it’s just worded that way and won’t honestly affect anyone’s knowledge of eating.
I was wondering if maybe she just drank nutritional supplements or something. I knew a girl who, at least in the height of her illness, was forced to drink nutritional shakes or have a feeding tube put in on a daily basis because she could not force herself to chew and swallow. I still wonder about her and hope that she is doing much better now. Recovery is possible. If you have an eating disorder, don't let anyone scare you by saying things like, "it's a lifelong battle." For some of us it is not. Disordered eating doesn't always need to be a main focus in your life, and I hope that you receive all the support you need to get to a better place in this life that you have 💛
I stopped eating when I was 5, I was in hospital for one month. My knees were the thickest part of my legs at that time. I know how it feels not wanting to grow up. But beeing bullied my whole life, starting at the time in the hospital, where I was the smallest, I found out, if you never grow up, you will never be strong! And you have to be strong to live in this world. I am happy to had the bullies near me, to show me how to fight. I am 36 now and in great shape.
@@CC-yh2yq I don't know, is it?! I also had depressions at 5 for the first time, they hit me very hard. It's a common thing to think children don't have the problems, that we as adults have. But as a child in such a situation, you think things get even worse, when you grow up. That's why I ended up not eating.
@@CC-yh2yq There was also a lot going on when I was little. I grew up in the UdSSR in the 90s, so it was almost as hard as to grew up in war, especially if you where very poor, like my family was.
Layla W Layla W people can go through stages of mental ill health but not everyone has a mental illness. I’m certainly not ‘encouraging self harm and suicide’, that’s absurd. However they’re symptoms, not choices. And it’s perfectly reasonable to compare cancer with mental illness, they are both serious illnesses.
Okay all you dudes went way off the handle here. The point I was trying to make was that it is very rare to see someone survive as long as she did with her diagnosis. A lot of people don't make it due to health complications even after recovery depending on how far along they are. This girl was very dedicated unfortunately and suffered greatly but she made it a decade! That's honestly so amazing and it not only taught her a lesson, but it showed her what it was like to live past it when her time came.
Layla W I see you replying to many comments, why are you this way towards anorexia? Have you lost someone from it? You seem someway Naive to the subject.
Layla W I never called it brave and never once said I was impressed by her illness, it’s not impressive at all to have an eating disorder it’s very easy. Her art though was undeniably impressive. Maybe there’s another way to look at things other than your very negative point of view, she’s already a gone the disease already took her like it does so many other everyday, at least she made something of her time.
Layla W I’m really confused by what you’re saying. I myself have recovered from an eating disorder. I’m not applauding this woman for her illness but her art, her illness was an unfortunate part of her as a person and I’m sorry she couldn’t help herself more.
Just saw some here photographs, these were the best I’ve seen. I can’t usually see the pain and distress or stories on photos but somehow she captured all of that so well! What an amazing woman! Rest in Peace, darling. Let the suffering be over
@MMN you can if they're a danger to themselves or others. You can petition for a medical warrant. If she was a complete danger to herself and even a regular family doctor could have signed paperwork and had her committed. She was not in control , her mental illness was, which is why they have safeguards in place for family, friends to do that. Yes anorexia nervosa is a mental illness and this women completed suicide by starving herself to death.
@@kristingallo2158 True, you can be sectioned and force-fed for a time...but they can't keep you there forever. Most times, as soon as the person is discharged, they will go right back to doing what they were doing. You can not force someone with an eating disorder to recover completely. If they don't want to get better, they won't, unfortunately. Suicide by eating disorder is not illegal and there is nothing anyone can do. I know because I was there myself and also had my best friend die from anorexia.
@@kristingallo2158 What's my fault? I'm just saying hospitalizing someone with an eating disorder isn't a long term solution. I'm in recovery on my own accord, long after I was in the hospital.
Human fragility is beautiful and how she captured it, obviously you are not old enough to understand the complexities of life and how even in the midst of tragedy there is a stillness and beauty that surpasses sadness , plus from a artistic pov she used light and shade extremely well, edited contrasting colours to a tea and told a narrative in each of her photos which good art is supposed to do. It's just sad that the inspiration and subject matter was from an illness and the deplorable injustice and treatment of refugee's, but i commend her on being brave enough and courageous enough to explore and portray it in her art and share her story.
Two individuals with enormous talent, right there speaking with one another. Morten interviewed Lene perfectly. The man offers empathy in his every gesture. He's a very special individual, just as Lene was. RIP lovely Lady.
All I could think about the whole time is I love her voice! It is so calming ant soft and the accent is so pretty and she illustrates her words so masterfully
May she Rest In Peace. :( I’m 6 years recovered from anorexia. It was one of the hardest times of my life. I don’t remember a lot of it. A lot of people just don’t understand how difficult it is, it was a lot deeper than just a problem with food.
I read an interview with her parents about her. It seems to me that she had parents who wanted her to be, and always stay their perfect little girl (there is also indication that she also always wanted to be perfect in school). I think there are two things here: a) overprotective parents who did not encourage her to grow up, so she thought growing up will feel like betraying, or disappointing them b) eating was the only thing she could exercise her own control on. So i think in a twisted way she was both pleasing and taking a revenge at her parents. I think the same mechanism is at work with Eugenia Cooney.
@Layla W I think you are missing the point. Her art is inspiring to see the light in life, in people, in situations, no matter what they may be, that there is a soul and a story, sometimes happy, and sometimes sad....its about the honesty that life has hidden. Looking past what someone's physical appearance or situation may be. As someone who has struggled and relapsed countless times, she is incredibly inspiring to look inside ones self and see a much bigger picture of a life that can be lived, and the strength that someone can have. 🙏🙏🙏
@Layla W of course there's nothing beautiful about being sick....hopefully someday you can look past the physical and the negative, and see that more exists beyond that.
@Layla W There is much more to someone than their illness or physical appearance. An illness doesn't define who a person is entirely. I see it from a different perspective than you, I guess. It's hard for people to see deeper when they don't understand.
@Layla W I wasn't just referring to her own self portraits, it was all of her other work of people and moments that she captured, that should be remembered, and her thoughts were well spoken of others. She obviously suffered greatly, and my heart breaks for her. Nobody should have to be such a tortured soul. But she saw such beauty and hope in others when others only saw the negative, and That is something alot of us lack. We are all entitled to our opinions and the views we are able to see. 🙏I saw someone who saw that life was beautiful and worth more than living how she was, and she saw that in others....I believe she wanted it, but sadly it was too late for her. I see that her work and thoughts could open eyes for alot of people, to stop and think and appreciate what they have in their own life, and find happiness in themselves. It's a big wake up when you see what things could be for someone and you choose to take a different path.🙏❤
@Layla W I think that the beauty in these photos is not the illness it is the human being behind the illness. When you see someone with a cold you are able to see beyond the fact that they don't feel well you still see them as human. But because her illness remind us so much of death some of us just see a skeletons documenting it's death but on the other hand some other may see a woman claiming her right to be human and to be seen as someone not as a disease. You probably would not say the same about someone who has cancer and documents pictures of themselves. But because people think she chose to be anorexic they blame her but I think you can't blame someone for being sick. She did not chose to be like that anorexia is a spiral and the deeper you go the faster you sink so please don't say it is documented self hatred or suicide because it is just a woman that tries to get her body back trough art.
The first step in overcoming anorexia is admitting or acknowledging you have a eating disorder. She said she knew she had one for 6 yrs, its sad she didnt get better. It's hard overcoming any kind of addiction
Everything about her is just "soothing" I've watched so many ED documentaries but she gives off a different vibe to the rest. Almost as though she (and her family) accepted this a long time ago but made the best of the situation 😢😢 RIP xx
I am utterly befuddled by this. Yes, she was an incredible artists. This comes across to me as if she felt that her own pain was a necessary component of, or prerequisite for her art. Maybe some kind of parallel to the madness of great painters or depression in comedians. But it is so very sad.
It could be from cognitive dissonance: "I'm struggling with anorexia and it's out of my control, but there must be a positive side or a reason for it to happen to me out of all the people -- maybe it's allowed my art to flourish." We have a tendency to try and find a reason for everything that happens to us that we can't control, even if that reason makes no sense.
I remember being on the verge of puberty and being so angry that my body was “ betraying me”… I didn’t want to grow up .. it never occurred to me to stop time.. I simply began what has been a lifetime of despising my body.. I admit that for several years I did the dance and played the game of denying myself food as a means of controlling myself and what was going on around me… I felt powerful at times, but it frightened me at the same time… Watching Lene Marie has given me pause to consider myself. Both as the 10 yr old child who is within me and the 62 year old woman I am now…
When she said, "from ruins you can build something beautiful." Touched my heart. I also find it fascinating that she only uses natural light. Just waiting for the perfect photo...so neat.
For those of you criticizing Morten Krogvold's questions: yes, they might seem inappropriate and insensitive for the uninitiated, but were most likely pre-agreed upon, as they knew each other very well. He (a recognized photographer himself) was her biggest fan (he called her the greatest photographic talent EVER to come out of Norway). And as much as she wanted to be associated with her art rather than identified with her illness, she also wanted her struggle with anorexia to be known. Hopefully the upcoming Margreth Olin documentary will celebrate all aspects of her character - her artistic abilities as well as her private struggles. I have great faith in Margreth, she's a brilliant documentarist.
I actually thought it may also be because English isn't his first language. Sometimes it's harder to dance around a topic when you're not speaking your language, so you have to be more direct.
She is so deeply inspiring and I find beauty in her pain.She understands herself and how she can turn her own struggles into becoming a helping hand for the less fortunate.
We lost her spirit and with it we lost her talent and everyone only seemed to care about her eating disorder when she just wanted to show her talent off to the world. What a great soul she was
Ali Jane some people meant to be legends,their act reasonable according to their spiritual journey. If you’re legendary, your little(entirely) mad. Otherwise you live beautiful inglorious life witch are gift too.
My eyes we’re watering watching this she seemed like such a gentle person when a person is that hollow looking you can really see the soul we are more than flesh and blood we are eternal spirit her pictures are beautiful and haunting at the same time
The disease wasnt about weight for me, but control, it was almost a love affair it felt like. Getting better was so hard, not being able to obsess over it anymore, lonely. Terrible disease, I'm so sad for her family
She's pure repesentation of the power of the mind, in the best and the sadest sense. Everyone is strong enough to fight the worst thoughs arising in our heads. No giving up ever
Her photographs are timeless. The interviewer did a really good job, which couldn't have been easy at all. I am truly sorry she lost her fight but her legacy lives on.
I may be alone in this thought but I don’t think anything about this is beautiful. She’s wasted away in front of our very eyes and nobody did a thing. She wouldn’t have been able to tackle this on her own. Her body wouldn’t have been able to handle eating. It would have put her into shock. she would have needed inpatient care. Also what kind of a message does calling this beautiful send to every single person who fights this disease?
It's not supposed to be beautiful. It's about pain, the human spirit and acceptance. She knows she is ill, and it is her sadness that perpetuates her illness. This is for awareness.
Jasmyne Parker I was commenting on the guy interviewing her saying it’s beautiful. I may have misunderstood what he meant by that. I’m not to sure Thanks for letting me know, I do agree with that but I feel like there’s so much more that could have been done for her. But I guess we’ll never know if that was possible. I just hope it is for the next.
@@Rosequartz95 You know that's true, she may have thought I'm getting all this because I'm sick like this...far out...they should have kept her in hospital, helping her to get well, and then it could have been an incentive for her to get well, that she would get to travel...
Were do you know from that no one tried to help? Do you understand her illness? Do you understand that people can only be helped if they want it? Do you know her story? Why are you judging? What harm do you think you cause when her loved ones see your comment???
@@Femmebutstillathem My comment wasn’t directed towards her loved ones in any way. It was directed at society & medical professionals. I can only imagine everything her family went through trying to get her the help she needed. She was a danger to herself & likely had very little control around her eating disorder. This is a California code but she should have been 5150’d. If they can do it to somebody who’s a threat to themselves or others due to other mental illness I’m curious as to why they can’t do that with this mental illness.
@@creolesbest2544 that's for sure, is not and easy world to live to anybody, but I in my opinion this light and courage makes anything worthed to fight for, because it brings the true authetic values we do need to make a world a better place.
Truly spectacular at her art. I’m glad she used her introspection; it is who she is her story, her pain. Pain can be felt through pictures so profoundly.
sickness starts as emotional then it manifests in the physical..it comes from lack of love. so the cure is love, every cell feels it. we all need healing, each differently on a different level. She was a beautiful soul in an 'unhappy' body and now she is free 💛
Yes my dear that is true . I now live with so many illnesses including mental health . It is about love . It is about letting yourself be loved also because sometimes that can be hard too.❤️
Gg Hfgg Thank you ! I have many chronic conditions but the one I wish to overcome the most is my mental health which is not bad but affects my relationships sometimes . It's an inherited / result of complex trauma but I intend to live each day to the best of my ability with an open heart ! X X ❤️😘🌈🌠😀
I just read she died. My heart is broken. What a brilliant, beautiful mind and talent. Humans are so incredibly complex. Bless her family, they must be devastated. May her portraits keep her memory alive. 😢❤️
When I was 16, I had Anorexic. My periods stopped. At the lowest, I weighed 97lbs. When my hair started falling out, I cured myself. And went back up to 119lbs. I was a lucky one.
@@blippyy4177 Well the first step is knowing you have a problem... not thinking these things Like hair loss and weight loss is a victory. They could get better as they could see the problem, some can't and see the problem as a goal
@Sreevatsan Official my lowest weight was 70lbs at 5'5 and I've struggled with my Anorexia from age 6...I'm 31 this year have had multiple treatment centers and hospitalizations but I'm still stuck in its grip...I've been on life support almost dead because of this
Out of the ruins, and through the pain lies hope and shades of intense light. We need nostalgia and the love of life with it to look to outstanding futures. Thank you Lene ~*
Please respect the dead. Respect her work, admire it! She lived, she set her mark on the world. She captured monents in time for us and future generations to admire.
@@MoreSimpleSimmer yes, most likely. Eating disorders do so much damage to your body long term, the most common cause of death with an eating disorder is heart failure because your heart just gives up. Even if she did start recovering she wouldn’t have had a long life because she’s been starving for so long. Eventually your body starts eating at your muscle, bones, and brain tissue, people who have had eating disorders for a long time have shrunken brains and brittle bones, and a large number of other serious health problems. It’s really really sad 😞 I’m glad, even though it was traumatic, that I got help before my E.D had completely taken away my ability to be rational. Sorry for this very long explanation lol
R.I.P. she just passed away October 22nd 2019. That was 10 days ago only. I feel sad for her parents. Watching her waste away and fighting to live at the same time must’ve been agony for the whole family to witness. She stopped eating at age 10, fought the disease for 20 years.
I'm a psychologist in training and an artist and respectfully disagree with this statement. I think this romanticism of suffering artists, as well as those with mental illness is not helpful. I know many more people who are tormented souls who are unable to do anything great or even participate in basic daily tasks sadly. I also know many people who are artists who work very hard to continue to be so and make great art and may also manage the symptoms of mental illness. Torment does not equal art. Hard work and reflection equals art as she displays in this interview. This is not to diminish this artists torment, but let's not elevate her because of it either, let's elevate artists because of the quality of their art, not the story of torment around it.
Rest in peace, Lene. I am so sorry for whatever made you feel like you need to stop time and hide yourself. I understand your pain. I developed an anorexia after trauma. It is hard to feel like anyone sees you for who you are when you are very sick. It is clear to me that you had insight, intelligence and a valuable mind. I'm sorry your disease stole it. I am sorry for those who loved you and everything you offered the world just by existing.
I am an amateur photographer, but my whole life it's been my passion. You are a great inspiration to me. Prayers for you, you are a beautiful soul. Thanks for the video.
The fact that she'd rather be sick and make it sound romanticized by saying she'd rather be the best artists in the world.... I'm actually surprised she able to articulate a sentence
I believe she sincerely wants her photography to prevail. A lot of my patients do not see themselves as sick. Over the two, I'm sure she wants to live. Society is curious about her. And because of this, her condition is enhanced and capitalized.
It is the ultimate disease of denial - Worse than any drug addiction. The empathetic caring kind soul masks the denials of the Illness. It’s totally hostile. None of the care and love and empathy makes sense from the artists who can’t have that for themselves. Horrible disease. There is nothing nice about any of this
@@Alex-bo5cp I recognized anorexia in the thumbnail, it probably goes from experience She had very characteristic features for someone who has severe anorexia
What a beautiful, bright soul she is. You can hear her passion even through her illness. I truly hope that she got the help she deserves. Edit: Rest In Paradise, angel. This disease is horrid and I’m so sorry your life was taken by it.
Eugenia just kinda repeats herself and her sentences are rather empty... it is so sad to see this, this lady really just shook me, how does one even function in such a state. this disease is HORRIBLE
I think everyone has experienced their own pain in this world, therefore we all know human pain. We don't always know others pain, but we know our own.
No. You don't know everyone and you don't know who's behind the screen and what they've been through and why they write the things they do. I don't think it's fair to assume.
Beautiful soul, Rest In Peace.I wouldn’t be surprised if her art became famous and one of the best , now when she is gone. I found her photographies absolutely amazing and beautiful! Give me some kind of shivers, must be the energy and emotions she has caught in the moment. She really stop the time....
Her voice is so near to the heart and about appearances i just felt that we are so patheric trying to change ourselves in attempt to make the world to like us I felt so present at the moment and how to feel whole as the way you are is so wonderful
What a gentle and fragile soul. I hope she's found peace. When he mentioned her mother her response was so authentic. She was a little girl again. Anorexia is a cruel illness. She could not stop time
She was trying to get better, and photography was helping her, its just so sad that it came to soon. I really love her work and will be telling many people about her story and photos, some are dark but they all have beauty and they show a real story. 💕
I think the interviewer, Morton Krogvold, did an excellent job here, balancing empathy and respect for Lene Marie's artistry and his genuine concern for her well being. He does guide her to give some very interesting answers to his questions. I think that it is very important to humanize people with mental illness, to understand that a severely mentally ill person can be exceptionally intelligent and creative, to understand how we can connect with them, to support them through their struggles. True empathy and respect is not enabling, it is providing an authentic connection that can lead to better things. I understand that Lene Marie died not long ago, which is incredibly tragic, but I think that Morton should look back at this interview in a positive way, and remember how he connected to her as an artist and a person.
That man is the sweetest, most genuine man i've seen in a while. He looks at her with wonder and interest, not disgust or judgement. And she herself was a beautiful person. Rest in peace lovely.
People applauded when she said she’d rather make art than live. Humans are horrible.
She actually said that if she had to choose between being the best photographer and being sick, she'd "of course" choose being the best photographer.
Keep spreading the good cheer
Yeah because there all Elon musk's deciples :
Franziska Wallner can’t become the best if ur dead
Kamilia Saibi that is NOT what she said. She said she’d rather be the best photographer than have her illness CURED.
She was an extraordinarily gifted photographer. It's heartbreaking that she lost her battle. Rest in peace, Lene Marie. Your legacy lives on. I will certainly watch the documentary and the exhibits.
vampira1409 wow her pictures are really inspiring. She really was gifted
@Layla W And I'm very disturbed that you can't look beyond the disorder to the genuine talent beneath it. I was first inttoduced to Lene Marie Fossen back in 2015 through an article that featured her photographic depiction of regugees in Greece, and I was blown away by the honesty in her photos. Not a word was uttered about Fossen other than that she was the photograoher. I only learnt of her story later. Acknowledging her (very obvious) talent doesn't make you an enabler.
Layla W So because she took self portraits that means all her other work should be completely disregarded? No. She was a talented photographer. I’m curious as to what your view of Imelda Bell’s work is?
Layla W You like to put words in people’s mouths don’t you? None of us know what was going on behind the scenes so you can’t comment on what people were or weren’t doing. The thing here is you’re not coming across as someone concerned for someone else’s wellbeing, something has clearly struck a nerve but your words are incredibly callous. I ask again though, have you seen Imelda Bell’s work? Again I would be very curious as to your opinion on it.
Layla W Please show me at what point I have said any of what you’re claiming I have. And talent matters nothing matters when you’re dead? Well I have news for you sweet pea, death is inevitable, so should no one bother doing anything with their life because eh gonna die anyway...? And I ask yet again. Imelda Bell. Opinion.
It is hard to believe that she could think, communicate, and express herself so well without energy and nutrients to feed her brain.
Eugenia Coony ,is also a very incredibly skinny TH-camr . Surprises me with her too that she has the energy to stream for five hours and talk so much ( not as this girl tho ) but some anorexic people ,their bodies react differently and they lay on the couch without energy to hardly talk or do anything. Bodies are reacting sometimes so so different on the same things. Some loose hair and teeth others doesn't, some have energy some not, some get osteoporosis, some don't, some get seizures, some not ,some wants to get well some not ,even all types of unhealthy trauma to our bodies, forexample addicts can use the same amount of drugs ,be same size and used for similar time and one get so sick with withdrawals it's more than their bodies can take and last for months ,while the friend can function within five days ,one can age super fast and the other can look healthy and young for 20 years while the other looks old after two years. That's why I often think forexample when someone talk down and say he's such a baby, he cries getting tattooed, what a woss..I can't stop to think if they switched bodies, the tough man who sat through without a tear or face expression, wouldn't felt so superior had he experienced being in the" woss" body
. Thinner skin with more sensitive nerves would make it suddenly feel so much worse, he wouldn't be able to will power away tears from running and expressions revealing his sensitive skin.
Like how impressive is it for someone without fear of heights to stand on the edge of a high building compared to someone with a body who tremble with fear and his head gets dizzy and anxiety is a consequence because the feeling of lack of control makes him fear it so much. It's our bodies who sends signals we're built different. I never feared heights because my brain didn't send signals I was in danger, but put me in a cold ocean and my body freezes so much I hyperventilate and sometimes cramp up . The bodies we have react so different that will power and being tough isn't aways enough, and it's unfair sometimes. Training can help, but not always. Just sharing my thoughts;)
@@lapis3834 she's really gotten bad, hasn't she!
You would be surprised what a body can get used to.
Whether or not she has the CALORIES, nutrients and things like electrolytes are what keep someone's body and mind going.
I started to have organs shutting down from a massive weight loss, due to my potassium levels. Hypokalemia, not fun. Brain boiling itself in your skull.
I didn't have to get to a minuscule size to make my body tank out, I just needed to be nutrient deficient enough.
@@breaddog420 actually when you're starved enough, your body goes into a Survival Mode. When I used to restrict on purpose, adrenaline took place of energy. Mania took place of focus.
@@lapis3834 my observations of E.C are of a diminishing mind.She cant focus, talks in a progressively higher octave and does so in circles.
I don't understand why people clapped when she said she'd rather make art than live. What is WRONG with people?
Ikr encouraging this :(
People are nuts 🥜
@@ann-mariewilliams1712 This is true!
maybe some people felt the same, tbh idk im just guessing
@@marinamansfield5872 You could be right
The interviewer is very professional. He doesn’t interrupt her, even when he laughs. He knows what to ask to move the interview forward. She’s very introspective here and not afraid to say what she wants and how she feels.
This is a very incompetent intreviewer! what a terrible,lacking and unsmooth intreview. Intreviewer in a very low league!
He lets her get away without addressing her disease and the fact that she is killing herself and glorifying anorexia with her topless photos.
To be honest he isn’t a good interviewer, you can tell he’s basically asking questions that he has written down, he’s not listening to what she’s saying and asking questions based on that. He has a sort of tunnel vision with the set questions he has
The interviewer needs to not normalize any eating disorder she is dieing and in surprised she even has enough energy to talk 😔 RIP
@@silvied6123 she’s not glorifying it in her photos at all, if she was the theme of the photos would be completely different. The background and objects she uses in her self portraits make the photos come off as more distant, cold and less welcoming. In my opinion it’s more like she’s trying to show us how bad a condition like hers could get
Poor girl. Anorexia is so complex and tragic. May she rest in peace.
Sashen La Espada um yes, she just died last week.
Sashen La Espada yes, sadly she died this October :(
What?I thought she had some condition..this is annorexia
My heart is broken to hear that Lene has passed on 😣
@@jk4351 yup
Regardless of how beautiful her art was, it wasn't worth her life.
To see her like that with topless stuff is just so revolting! There are actually sick people who have a fetish about anorexia.
it was though, and she seemed to find solace in the disturbing
@VF f you're too basic to understand
@@silvied6123 I'm sure you can name just about anything and someone will have a fetish about.
Has she died? It’s hard to imagine she could survive 3 years in this state
she obviously had a fixation with decay, wasting away and barrenness. she was not probably fully aware of the enormity of her situation.
That’s an interesting theory. Unlike the other comments. Is it her photography that makes you say that? Or her experiences or her illness? Or interests?
Its like a theme of her life from which everything emanated. Kismet or psychological bias.
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as is the way of anorexia/body dysmorphia 😞 but i absolutely agree, it’s an aspect of her fear of growing up and attempting to immortalize moments
Exactly.
It’s quite sad to see how much she needs recognition...always reminding: “I’m an artist”!
Her work is painfully beautiful...
Alba Douek not sure exactly what you mean. She has the recognition, she wanted to be known not for her disorder, but her photography. She wasn’t saying that in a desperate attempt for recognition. Or maybe I misunderstood your comment.
@@ariehouston7209 No, you misunderstood this girl's situation.
Yea it's literal thinspo for other girls dying to be skinny but sO bEAuTifUl right? Don't say shi like that bruh
@@Feminazi1dc her ART is beautiful, the stories of the photos
No, I think OP misunderstood her situation and what she was saying. I agree that it was a very strange comment by OP. She’s not looking for recognition, she’s just trying to not be known only for her disease, sadly many people still can’t see past it.
I battled with anorexia 10 years ago, it was the darkest time of my life. I have no recollection of most events that happened Thru that time that I suffered with it. I’m happy to say that I’ve been healthy and thriving for more than 10 years and I’ve found a new love into the gym, fitness and specially, lifting. It is my passion. I went from 80 pounds to 180 pounds of happiness and muscle. I live for those that didn’t. I pray for everyone that is currently and previously have suffered from this. There is a comeback and I promise you it’ll be so good
Yaneth L wow! That’s an amazing story, I wish you all the best. Stay healthy and happy 🙂
It's always amazing to hear from people who got managed to battle their way through it and some out the other side. I wish you continued health.
you're rad. Well done
I struggled with an ED for 2 years and was able to overcome it. I was close to 100lbs at my worst (I’m 5’10”). I had to quit dance and cheer and get professional help to move forward. A few months into recovery I met my husband and a year later we had a child. I know some with ED struggle with weight gain during pregnancy, but carrying my child healed me. I’ve never struggled with under-eating since becoming a mother. I now have 5 beautiful, healthy children.
Kristin R so proud of you ❤️
It's a miracle she was alive looking like that.. Terrible disease. Rest in peace 🙏
Wendy J did she die?
@@CC-yh2yq yeah, a few days ago sadly
The body is a resilient machine. It can run on minimum energy supply for years and years when it gets used to it. At her stage of sickness I guess it was impossible for her to gain any weight and still survive. Her organs were already too damaged. I love how she still used her time left wisely and with passion, that's more than most people have had until the end of their lives.
@@nadjak3410 so true. She was so ill and still took time to do this. Respect.
RIP to her of course. I have a question how do people compare this disease to drug and alcohol addiction? I'm just curious
I'm so sad she died. She was truly a woman with potential, but sadly this deadly disease ruined her.
And it's sad none of those people did ANYTHING about her eating disorder and when she said she would rather be a perfesional photographer or fight through her disorder she chose precessional photographer it makes me sick 😔
@@jennifermartin2752 after 20 years and getting that poorly , she never would have been able to fully recover , her organs and muscles would have been too damaged . But I agree .
So why did nobody hospitalise her. This was a child who needed treatment. I seriously don’t understand this irrational behaviour.
She ruined herself.
@@haleykolbush3899 No. Anorexia ruined her
Anorexia is a very complex condition. For many, it is far from as simple as 'I'm not eating because I want to be thin'.
Off topic. But I love your profile pic 💕
@@cool_kid103 Thank you, darling. Randall is quite the character. A true rascal.
Yes, it's because they hate life subconsciously. It's inward anger at one of the parents, No, fault of thier own it's usually one of thier parents is overbearing.(controlling)
@@sonyvalencia Not necessarily.
sony so Not really. Its not always hate towards self or self harm. Its usually an obsession with control.
she seems so lovely, a beautiful soul that met a very tragic fate. she makes me want to recover and i hope i can when i’m ready.
Stay strong! Wishing you the best on your recovery journey.
@@qwertyuiopqwertyuiop-bb4mi thank you very much! ❤️🥰
I highly suggest Tabitha Farrar’s channel ❤️ she has helped me understand recovery.
@@jewelsbarbie thank you! i will give her a watch! all the best in your recovery ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@geno2033 u need to be ready now
I can’t believe she wasn’t given treatment years ago.
She probably was but eating disorders are incredibly difficult to actually treat and while eating can become easier you always are going to struggle with it. Lots of people that have a treated eating disorder end up relapsing sadly
@@bethanyferguson4719 yeah, the second time is usually fatal. I don't remember the statistics, but those who relapsed have much more chances to die.
@@bethanyferguson4719 Yeah, the documentary 'Emma wants to live' represents that accurately. As the title suggests, she did want to live and even though she had intensive treatment, she just wasn't able to get better.
How do you know she was not being treated?
She always refuse it. And now a great talent is lost
People try to romanticize mental illness, obesity, and anorexia. But mental illness, anorexia, and obesity they are all so sad...
Hathor Zamar you forgot bigorexia
@आर्य रौद्र yep. It keeps spreading because they sense the attention. And it gives way for capitalists to gain profit.
आर्य रौद्र - actually, most of us do not want attention and want to be left alone with our illness. The people you see advertising anorexia on IG or Facebook or whatever, likely don’t have a true eating disorder.
@@kecrn4132 really!? Eating disorders have a different side too. Eating disorders have an extremely competitive side that many who go through treatment see all the time. A lot of those girls want to be the the sickest... i know all about it.
@@kecrn4132 you are absolutely correct. I've been battling anorexia for almost a year now and the very last thing most want is a spotlight on them. Isolation and being alone with the comfort of our disease is what we want most
she is so well spoken. genuinely seems intelligent & seems as if she did want stuff for her future. this breaks my heart.
Human pain. A courageous, ill, brilliant person was able to photograph and DEAL with suffering, tragic children. I have nothing to complain about. And so much to learn and grow. Much love to all of us.
It’s so misleading when they say some one “stopped eating” since she was 10 years old...this doesn’t help those of us who used to think this way (or still do) because it hints that you actually can live without eating and we can’t.
I hope she finally found peace...she was so gifted❤️
I think you need to read it a bit slowly. It in no way implies that she went years with no food.
Well she passed away. So anyone who reads the comments under this video will be under no illusion that she could have survived.
Arie Houston Well yeah, but even just speaking of the years from 10 even just until this interview, it give a false impression that you BBC an stop eating and live for any great amount of time. Even the Norwegian Film Institute says she had “stopped eating 20 years ago”. That’s simply not possible 🤷🏻♀️
Katie B it’s all for dramatization. Anyone who honestly thinks you can’t eat for a period of time that long is uneducated and if it comes down to it they’ll figure it out. I don’t think it’s some big “misinformation” issue I think it’s just worded that way and won’t honestly affect anyone’s knowledge of eating.
I was wondering if maybe she just drank nutritional supplements or something. I knew a girl who, at least in the height of her illness, was forced to drink nutritional shakes or have a feeding tube put in on a daily basis because she could not force herself to chew and swallow. I still wonder about her and hope that she is doing much better now. Recovery is possible. If you have an eating disorder, don't let anyone scare you by saying things like, "it's a lifelong battle." For some of us it is not. Disordered eating doesn't always need to be a main focus in your life, and I hope that you receive all the support you need to get to a better place in this life that you have 💛
I stopped eating when I was 5, I was in hospital for one month. My knees were the thickest part of my legs at that time. I know how it feels not wanting to grow up. But beeing bullied my whole life, starting at the time in the hospital, where I was the smallest, I found out, if you never grow up, you will never be strong! And you have to be strong to live in this world. I am happy to had the bullies near me, to show me how to fight. I am 36 now and in great shape.
Great! Congratulations....
Stylomagic 5!? That’s incredibly young to even be thinking about stuff like that
@@CC-yh2yq I don't know, is it?! I also had depressions at 5 for the first time, they hit me very hard. It's a common thing to think children don't have the problems, that we as adults have. But as a child in such a situation, you think things get even worse, when you grow up. That's why I ended up not eating.
Stylomagic yes but 5 is incredibly young is it not? I understand the stigma though
@@CC-yh2yq There was also a lot going on when I was little. I grew up in the UdSSR in the 90s, so it was almost as hard as to grew up in war, especially if you where very poor, like my family was.
It is very rare for someone to survive over 10 years with that. A very brave woman.
Layla W Layla W people can go through stages of mental ill health but not everyone has a mental illness. I’m certainly not ‘encouraging self harm and suicide’, that’s absurd. However they’re symptoms, not choices. And it’s perfectly reasonable to compare cancer with mental illness, they are both serious illnesses.
Okay all you dudes went way off the handle here. The point I was trying to make was that it is very rare to see someone survive as long as she did with her diagnosis. A lot of people don't make it due to health complications even after recovery depending on how far along they are. This girl was very dedicated unfortunately and suffered greatly but she made it a decade! That's honestly so amazing and it not only taught her a lesson, but it showed her what it was like to live past it when her time came.
Layla W I see you replying to many comments, why are you this way towards anorexia? Have you lost someone from it? You seem someway Naive to the subject.
Layla W I never called it brave and never once said I was impressed by her illness, it’s not impressive at all to have an eating disorder it’s very easy. Her art though was undeniably impressive. Maybe there’s another way to look at things other than your very negative point of view, she’s already a gone the disease already took her like it does so many other everyday, at least she made something of her time.
Layla W I’m really confused by what you’re saying. I myself have recovered from an eating disorder. I’m not applauding this woman for her illness but her art, her illness was an unfortunate part of her as a person and I’m sorry she couldn’t help herself more.
Just saw some here photographs, these were the best I’ve seen. I can’t usually see the pain and distress or stories on photos but somehow she captured all of that so well! What an amazing woman! Rest in Peace, darling. Let the suffering be over
No one hospitalized her? This is the scariest thing I've ever seen.
@MMN you can if they're a danger to themselves or others. You can petition for a medical warrant. If she was a complete danger to herself and even a regular family doctor could have signed paperwork and had her committed. She was not in control , her mental illness was, which is why they have safeguards in place for family, friends to do that. Yes anorexia nervosa is a mental illness and this women completed suicide by starving herself to death.
@@kristingallo2158 True, you can be sectioned and force-fed for a time...but they can't keep you there forever. Most times, as soon as the person is discharged, they will go right back to doing what they were doing. You can not force someone with an eating disorder to recover completely. If they don't want to get better, they won't, unfortunately. Suicide by eating disorder is not illegal and there is nothing anyone can do. I know because I was there myself and also had my best friend die from anorexia.
@@TehKitteh01 honestly that sounds like your own fault.
@@kristingallo2158 What's my fault? I'm just saying hospitalizing someone with an eating disorder isn't a long term solution. I'm in recovery on my own accord, long after I was in the hospital.
Kristin Gallo why didn't her parents get her in treatment
The interviewer seems so nice and friendly. Ofc it's his job but he seems genuine
He's a photographer.
The photo's are hauntingly beautiful and capture a glimpse of the soul and the torments of being human and the tragedy and fragility of life
Are you blind?
It’s just tragedy. There’s nothing beautiful about mental illness
Human fragility is beautiful and how she captured it, obviously you are not old enough to understand the complexities of life and how even in the midst of tragedy there is a stillness and beauty that surpasses sadness , plus from a artistic pov she used light and shade extremely well, edited contrasting colours to a tea and told a narrative in each of her photos which good art is supposed to do. It's just sad that the inspiration and subject matter was from an illness and the deplorable injustice and treatment of refugee's, but i commend her on being brave enough and courageous enough to explore and portray it in her art and share her story.
beautifully stated ~
Perfect description.....lolly b...YOUR COMMENT I AGREE
Two individuals with enormous talent, right there speaking with one another. Morten interviewed Lene perfectly.
The man offers empathy in his every gesture. He's a very special individual, just as Lene was.
RIP lovely Lady.
2 years ago and TH-cam recommended me this just now
Jandro Same. Probably because she just passed away. 🥺
Megsother28 true😢
Same here.
Same here
TH-cam’s on a “let’s make people cry” kick
All I could think about the whole time is I love her voice! It is so calming ant soft and the accent is so pretty and she illustrates her words so masterfully
May she Rest In Peace. :(
I’m 6 years recovered from anorexia. It was one of the hardest times of my life. I don’t remember a lot of it.
A lot of people just don’t understand how difficult it is, it was a lot deeper than just a problem with food.
@hope totally agree
Congrats on your recovery
11 years recovered now
Much love to you xx ❤
Go eat a burger.
@@haleykolbush3899 how funny and original. Do you feel better now you’ve made that comment?
@@haleykolbush3899 thats rude
I can’t believe that’s she’s still alive at this point and also not laying in a hospital bed. My goodness. Brave and talented woman. RIP ❤
I wonder what her child hood was like, the desire to never grow up, to pause time I wonder what triggered the need for control
The desire to never grow up!!! The desire to never grow up!!!!
I read an interview with her parents about her. It seems to me that she had parents who wanted her to be, and always stay their perfect little girl (there is also indication that she also always wanted to be perfect in school). I think there are two things here: a) overprotective parents who did not encourage her to grow up, so she thought growing up will feel like betraying, or disappointing them b) eating was the only thing she could exercise her own control on. So i think in a twisted way she was both pleasing and taking a revenge at her parents. I think the same mechanism is at work with Eugenia Cooney.
That sounds accurate. I have an eating disorder and this perfectly describes me.
@@lusomarga Omg that is very wisely said!
Reminds me of Eugenia cooney with the child like persona, stuffed animals. Its like she doesnt want to become a woman, but stay a child
Intervewer is quite empathetic and does a wonderful job.
Agreed. He honors her for her self and not for her illness.
Could one do anything better?
It’s eerie knowing she died exactly 2 years after this interview 💔
Rest In Peace. Your art will inspire many for generations to come.
@Layla W I think you are missing the point. Her art is inspiring to see the light in life, in people, in situations, no matter what they may be, that there is a soul and a story, sometimes happy, and sometimes sad....its about the honesty that life has hidden. Looking past what someone's physical appearance or situation may be. As someone who has struggled and relapsed countless times, she is incredibly inspiring to look inside ones self and see a much bigger picture of a life that can be lived, and the strength that someone can have. 🙏🙏🙏
@Layla W of course there's nothing beautiful about being sick....hopefully someday you can look past the physical and the negative, and see that more exists beyond that.
@Layla W There is much more to someone than their illness or physical appearance. An illness doesn't define who a person is entirely. I see it from a different perspective than you, I guess. It's hard for people to see deeper when they don't understand.
@Layla W I wasn't just referring to her own self portraits, it was all of her other work of people and moments that she captured, that should be remembered, and her thoughts were well spoken of others. She obviously suffered greatly, and my heart breaks for her. Nobody should have to be such a tortured soul. But she saw such beauty and hope in others when others only saw the negative, and That is something alot of us lack. We are all entitled to our opinions and the views we are able to see. 🙏I saw someone who saw that life was beautiful and worth more than living how she was, and she saw that in others....I believe she wanted it, but sadly it was too late for her. I see that her work and thoughts could open eyes for alot of people, to stop and think and appreciate what they have in their own life, and find happiness in themselves. It's a big wake up when you see what things could be for someone and you choose to take a different path.🙏❤
@Layla W I think that the beauty in these photos is not the illness it is the human being behind the illness. When you see someone with a cold you are able to see beyond the fact that they don't feel well you still see them as human. But because her illness remind us so much of death some of us just see a skeletons documenting it's death but on the other hand some other may see a woman claiming her right to be human and to be seen as someone not as a disease. You probably would not say the same about someone who has cancer and documents pictures of themselves. But because people think she chose to be anorexic they blame her but I think you can't blame someone for being sick. She did not chose to be like that anorexia is a spiral and the deeper you go the faster you sink so please don't say it is documented self hatred or suicide because it is just a woman that tries to get her body back trough art.
The first step in overcoming anorexia is admitting or acknowledging you have a eating disorder. She said she knew she had one for 6 yrs, its sad she didnt get better.
It's hard overcoming any kind of addiction
Everything about her is just "soothing" I've watched so many ED documentaries but she gives off a different vibe to the rest. Almost as though she (and her family) accepted this a long time ago but made the best of the situation 😢😢
RIP xx
this girl has a way with speaking that's so entrancing it is hard to not pay attention.
she was 30 yrs old hahah
I am utterly befuddled by this. Yes, she was an incredible artists. This comes across to me as if she felt that her own pain was a necessary component of, or prerequisite for her art. Maybe some kind of parallel to the madness of great painters or depression in comedians. But it is so very sad.
Yes I picked up on that too
It could be from cognitive dissonance: "I'm struggling with anorexia and it's out of my control, but there must be a positive side or a reason for it to happen to me out of all the people -- maybe it's allowed my art to flourish." We have a tendency to try and find a reason for everything that happens to us that we can't control, even if that reason makes no sense.
She was such a beautiful, sensitive and intelligent woman. Rest in peace, Lene Marie.
I remember being on the verge of puberty and being so angry that my body was “ betraying me”… I didn’t want to grow up .. it never occurred to me to stop time.. I simply began what has been a lifetime of despising my body.. I admit that for several years I did the dance and played the game of denying myself food as a means of controlling myself and what was going on around me… I felt powerful at times, but it frightened me at the same time… Watching Lene Marie has given me pause to consider myself. Both as the 10 yr old child who is within me and the 62 year old woman I am now…
The applause b r o k e my heart what the HECC people
When she said, "from ruins you can build something beautiful." Touched my heart. I also find it fascinating that she only uses natural light. Just waiting for the perfect photo...so neat.
For those of you criticizing Morten Krogvold's questions: yes, they might seem inappropriate and insensitive for the uninitiated, but were most likely pre-agreed upon, as they knew each other very well. He (a recognized photographer himself) was her biggest fan (he called her the greatest photographic talent EVER to come out of Norway). And as much as she wanted to be associated with her art rather than identified with her illness, she also wanted her struggle with anorexia to be known. Hopefully the upcoming Margreth Olin documentary will celebrate all aspects of her character - her artistic abilities as well as her private struggles. I have great faith in Margreth, she's a brilliant documentarist.
I actually thought it may also be because English isn't his first language. Sometimes it's harder to dance around a topic when you're not speaking your language, so you have to be more direct.
@@EH-wi9dt That may very well have been a part of it too. Either way, I'm pretty sure she wasn't offended by the line of questioning.
Really well said 💗
vampira1409 agree
She is so deeply inspiring and I find beauty in her pain.She understands herself and how she can turn her own struggles into becoming a helping hand for the less fortunate.
She passed away in 2019 🤍
We lost her spirit and with it we lost her talent and everyone only seemed to care about her eating disorder when she just wanted to show her talent off to the world. What a great soul she was
Shannon’s Journey I couldn’t have said it better.
Because we didn't want her to die.
Spirit never dies.
Her eating disorder was her art. Should we smile and nod while Van Gogh carves his ear off, too? Sanity matters more than art.
Ali Jane some people meant to be legends,their act reasonable according to their spiritual journey. If you’re legendary, your little(entirely) mad. Otherwise you live beautiful inglorious life witch are gift too.
My eyes we’re watering watching this she seemed like such a gentle person when a person is that hollow looking you can really see the soul we are more than flesh and blood we are eternal spirit her pictures are beautiful and haunting at the same time
People clap after she says “it’s because I am so stubborn”… wow. Enablers.
Well, she died ten days ago on October 23, 2019.
Noooooo 😭
Oh no :( RIP
Oh no :(
:c
Damn bad timing, RIP lil lady
may she rest in peace, she was an amazing young women
She's so sweet
Kovu is a unicorn i know! Ps. Jeg elsker kanalen din! Du er så morsom!❤️🦄
Kovu is a unicorn
she really is😍
Kovu, du er overalt!
Kovu! What are you doing here!
Kovu?
The disease wasnt about weight for me, but control, it was almost a love affair it felt like. Getting better was so hard, not being able to obsess over it anymore, lonely. Terrible disease, I'm so sad for her family
i’m happy u got better
She's pure repesentation of the power of the mind, in the best and the sadest sense. Everyone is strong enough to fight the worst thoughs arising in our heads. No giving up ever
I disagree. Anorexia is the ultimate disease of denial. There is no power there when it is constant denial.
As so often seems to be the case, within all strands of humanity, there is an immense beauty and tragedy to this woman
Artist, rather
Be careful attributing beauty to anorexia though. Young girls will latch onto that and try to romanticize eating disorders
@@kylajohnson9848 I am not romanticising anorexia. Not at all. I am expressing beauty within an artist.
James Roman So beautifully said ❣️
I see no beauty in unconquered pain.
Wow, how did she survive as long as she did. She looks the most emaciated of all anorexics. Her soul is strong as it is vulberable. Amazing
beauty is so so much more than what we see - and its too easy to forget that
It really is easy to forget... and that’s sad
She holds herself very elegantly despite her sickness. Very admirable. Great interviewer and very knowledgeable.
It's not admirable. Some of them probably develop martyrdom complexes which should not be indulged.
Her photographs are timeless. The interviewer did a really good job, which couldn't have been easy at all. I am truly sorry she lost her fight but her legacy lives on.
I may be alone in this thought but I don’t think anything about this is beautiful. She’s wasted away in front of our very eyes and nobody did a thing. She wouldn’t have been able to tackle this on her own. Her body wouldn’t have been able to handle eating. It would have put her into shock. she would have needed inpatient care. Also what kind of a message does calling this beautiful send to every single person who fights this disease?
It's not supposed to be beautiful. It's about pain, the human spirit and acceptance. She knows she is ill, and it is her sadness that perpetuates her illness. This is for awareness.
Jasmyne Parker I was commenting on the guy interviewing her saying it’s beautiful. I may have misunderstood what he meant by that. I’m not to sure Thanks for letting me know, I do agree with that but I feel like there’s so much more that could have been done for her. But I guess we’ll never know if that was possible. I just hope it is for the next.
@@Rosequartz95 You know that's true, she may have thought I'm getting all this because I'm sick like this...far out...they should have kept her in hospital, helping her to get well, and then it could have been an incentive for her to get well, that she would get to travel...
Were do you know from that no one tried to help? Do you understand her illness? Do you understand that people can only be helped if they want it? Do you know her story? Why are you judging? What harm do you think you cause when her loved ones see your comment???
@@Femmebutstillathem My comment wasn’t directed towards her loved ones in any way. It was directed at society & medical professionals. I can only imagine everything her family went through trying to get her the help she needed. She was a danger to herself & likely had very little control around her eating disorder. This is a California code but she should have been 5150’d. If they can do it to somebody who’s a threat to themselves or others due to other mental illness I’m curious as to why they can’t do that with this mental illness.
I love her! She was so brave to come to be visible, is not easy it takes courage.
Mariona López Corominas I’m sure she though she was beautiful this way.
@@creolesbest2544 that's for sure, is not and easy world to live to anybody, but I in my opinion this light and courage makes anything worthed to fight for, because it brings the true authetic values we do need to make a world a better place.
Mariona López Corominas Well said love
she died ten days ago on October 23, 2019
J Mac From her disorder?
As a sufferer if that awful disease, I hope I can live for the ones that didn’t get the chance. Rest in peace. 💔
I hope you do, Jenn. Sending you love and encouragement.x
May I ask a question? Is anorexia a mental disease or a physical disease?
@@katiehenry7 I would say both. The mind and body are connected. So it is a mental illness that effects the body.
@@katiehenry7 It's all mental but with devastating consequences in the physical.
Kate Hipkin thank you so much ❤️
Truly spectacular at her art. I’m glad she used her introspection; it is who she is her story, her pain. Pain can be felt through pictures so profoundly.
sickness starts as emotional then it manifests in the physical..it comes from lack of love. so the cure is love, every cell feels it. we all need healing, each differently on a different level. She was a beautiful soul in an 'unhappy' body and now she is free 💛
So true , blessings.
Yes my dear that is true . I now live with so many illnesses including mental health . It is about love . It is about letting yourself be loved also because sometimes that can be hard too.❤️
@@lornafleur123 i hope you get better and you deserve love so accept it and receive it with open heart my dear 💛💖
@@isisl8522 💖🙏
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Thank you ! I have many chronic conditions but the one I wish to overcome the most is my mental health which is not bad but affects my relationships sometimes . It's an inherited / result of complex trauma but I intend to live each day to the best of my ability with an open heart ! X X ❤️😘🌈🌠😀
I just read she died. My heart is broken. What a brilliant, beautiful mind and talent. Humans are so incredibly complex. Bless her family, they must be devastated. May her portraits keep her memory alive. 😢❤️
She has such a beautiful laugh it’s so hauntingly childlike
Yeah anorexia has an affect on the voice too
She said she wanted to freeze time and stay a child forever she never wanted to change out of her child body
@@littlelemons24 it seems like she’s regressing
Her body never went through puberty, so her voice was still literally that of a child.
reading these comments is so frustrating, people that have never had anorexia arguing about what it is. rest in peace
When I was 16, I had Anorexic. My periods stopped. At the lowest, I weighed 97lbs. When my hair started falling out, I cured myself. And went back up to 119lbs. I was a lucky one.
How did you cure yourself?
@@blippyy4177 Well the first step is knowing you have a problem... not thinking these things Like hair loss and weight loss is a victory.
They could get better as they could see the problem, some can't and see the problem as a goal
@Sreevatsan Official my lowest weight was 70lbs at 5'5 and I've struggled with my Anorexia from age 6...I'm 31 this year have had multiple treatment centers and hospitalizations but I'm still stuck in its grip...I've been on life support almost dead because of this
@@destinybohemier8320 6?????
I was one of the lucky ones too... There but for the Grace of God... RIP beautiful soul.xx
Out of the ruins, and through the pain lies hope and shades of intense light. We need nostalgia and the love of life with it to look to outstanding futures. Thank you Lene ~*
Please respect the dead. Respect her work, admire it! She lived, she set her mark on the world. She captured monents in time for us and future generations to admire.
She only captured herself dying and it was revolting to her topless in the photographs.
She shouldn’t have died so early though. It’s absolutely disturbing that no one hospitalized her or helped her get help.
This is extremely disturbing...I can barely look at those pictures. Her skin looks paper thin.
I looked her up, and unfortunately she died in 2019
@@ryliel3130 because of her eating disorder?
@@MoreSimpleSimmer yes, most likely. Eating disorders do so much damage to your body long term, the most common cause of death with an eating disorder is heart failure because your heart just gives up. Even if she did start recovering she wouldn’t have had a long life because she’s been starving for so long. Eventually your body starts eating at your muscle, bones, and brain tissue, people who have had eating disorders for a long time have shrunken brains and brittle bones, and a large number of other serious health problems. It’s really really sad 😞 I’m glad, even though it was traumatic, that I got help before my E.D had completely taken away my ability to be rational. Sorry for this very long explanation lol
@@ryliel3130 im happy you got help tpo
@@skylerpoduska thank you, that means a lot
She speaks in such a beautiful way.. RIP Lene. You were a true artist
U said great
R.I.P. she just passed away October 22nd 2019. That was 10 days ago only. I feel sad for her parents. Watching her waste away and fighting to live at the same time must’ve been agony for the whole family to witness. She stopped eating at age 10, fought the disease for 20 years.
10. Omg.
Wait how is it humanely possible to stop eating for 20 years... that is really hard to grasp
Poor dear.
Elizabeth April She obviously ate a little, otherwise she’d have died long ago. They mean that her issues with food began at 10 years old.
So what did she eat that's too long
True and great artist are often tormented souls. Rest in peace, beautiful girl. ❤️
"she suffers because she sees"----Brenda Wineapple about Emily Dickinson
@@christinebadostain6887 so sad but ❤
So right...😣
I'm a psychologist in training and an artist and respectfully disagree with this statement. I think this romanticism of suffering artists, as well as those with mental illness is not helpful. I know many more people who are tormented souls who are unable to do anything great or even participate in basic daily tasks sadly. I also know many people who are artists who work very hard to continue to be so and make great art and may also manage the symptoms of mental illness. Torment does not equal art. Hard work and reflection equals art as she displays in this interview. This is not to diminish this artists torment, but let's not elevate her because of it either, let's elevate artists because of the quality of their art, not the story of torment around it.
Michelle Genders I said often, not always. Relax
Rest in peace, Lene. I am so sorry for whatever made you feel like you need to stop time and hide yourself. I understand your pain. I developed an anorexia after trauma. It is hard to feel like anyone sees you for who you are when you are very sick. It is clear to me that you had insight, intelligence and a valuable mind. I'm sorry your disease stole it. I am sorry for those who loved you and everything you offered the world just by existing.
What a sweet young woman, with a beautiful mind and capacity to share human emotion through her work. May her soul be at peace.
Time and again ... the darkest struggles in life create the greatest artists.
She said so many beautiful things. Such an artistic soul. So sad she couldn't fight her disease.
Just saw this on April 27 2020.💔 Broke my heart for this beautiful soul. Rest in peace delicate beautiful angel. 💜⚘💜
She looks like someone Ive known...she is a sweet soul...and forever will leave the essence of godly love..and inspiration.. for all of us..
I am an amateur photographer, but my whole life it's been my passion. You are a great inspiration to me. Prayers for you, you are a beautiful soul. Thanks for the video.
She was such a special soul...I’m honestly surprised she lived till 33 when she stopped eating at age 10:((
She didn’t stop eating because it’s impossible to live without food.
@@kat7047 she only drank nutritional drinks. She didn't eat.
@@kat7047 Exactly, people think severe anorexics never eat but its untrue and they're extremely fixated on food.
Girl needed a Big Mac!
@@haleykolbush3899 you disgust me
I was disturbed when she said that she and her mother laughed when people would see her and run away screaming.
The fact that she'd rather be sick and make it sound romanticized by saying she'd rather be the best artists in the world....
I'm actually surprised she able to articulate a sentence
I believe she sincerely wants her photography to prevail. A lot of my patients do not see themselves as sick. Over the two, I'm sure she wants to live. Society is curious about her. And because of this, her condition is enhanced and capitalized.
It make sense to me but maybe that's because I'm sick. I think I would rather be sick than healthy. It makes sense unforunately.
It is the ultimate disease of denial -
Worse than any drug addiction. The empathetic caring kind soul masks the denials of the Illness. It’s totally hostile. None of the care and love and empathy makes sense from the artists who can’t have that for themselves. Horrible disease. There is nothing nice about any of this
She’s so precious in this interview. Rest her kind, beautiful soul ❤️
My goodness, how can she still be walking and breathing being so emaciated? RIP sweet girl...hope you are out of pain now.😔
I thought she was a child with a genetic disorder, I have never seen someone look so extreme from anorexia
@@Alex-bo5cp I recognized anorexia in the thumbnail, it probably goes from experience
She had very characteristic features for someone who has severe anorexia
@@alexandras.6638 I obviously don't have much experience at all of it, what a tragedy
This is one of the worst saddest cases of Anorexia I've seen. It's heartbreaking
All cases are as sad as each other. It is the ultimate illness of denial.
@@giatasha2181 ikr
For real 😧
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What a beautiful, bright soul she is. You can hear her passion even through her illness. I truly hope that she got the help she deserves.
Edit: Rest In Paradise, angel. This disease is horrid and I’m so sorry your life was taken by it.
She makes waaaaay more sense than Eugenia Cooney
Eugenia just kinda repeats herself and her sentences are rather empty... it is so sad to see this, this lady really just shook me, how does one even function in such a state. this disease is HORRIBLE
Lene Marie made it to 33 Eugenia won’t
And Lene was even more emaciated than Eugenia.
yet they are/were both sick and needed help. anorexia is a competitive disease, let's not buy into this line of thinking and compare them.
why say this?
im in tears this poor girl she is so sweet and hearing that she passed breaks my heart
"We all know what human pain is." Not everyone does Lene. I present to you internet opinionists.
I think everyone has experienced their own pain in this world, therefore we all know human pain. We don't always know others pain, but we know our own.
@@HashslingingSLASHER92 But there is certain pains levels is mental or physical pain.
@@HashslingingSLASHER92 Beautifully said! Yes!
@@Nadiesalevivo Absolutely, pain is pain regardless of degree or nature.
No. You don't know everyone and you don't know who's behind the screen and what they've been through and why they write the things they do. I don't think it's fair to assume.
Beautiful soul, Rest In Peace.I wouldn’t be surprised if her art became famous and one of the best , now when she is gone. I found her photographies absolutely amazing and beautiful! Give me some kind of shivers, must be the energy and emotions she has caught in the moment. She really stop the time....
Her voice is so near to the heart and about appearances i just felt that we are so patheric trying to change ourselves in attempt to make the world to like us
I felt so present at the moment and how to feel whole as the way you are is so wonderful
I want to change myself not for the world but for me. So i can love myself.
After looking like that myself, this brings back many memories.
I’m so happy you are still with us in this realm. Is recovery going well? I hope today is a wonderful day for you.
Go eat a burger 🍔
I have never in my life seen more beautiful photographies!
She’s an amazing person. Great person to spend time with. She’s just like us. Except that her pain isn’t hidden like ours.
Her photos are haunting
What a gentle and fragile soul. I hope she's found peace. When he mentioned her mother her response was so authentic. She was a little girl again. Anorexia is a cruel illness. She could not stop time
She was trying to get better, and photography was helping her, its just so sad that it came to soon. I really love her work and will be telling many people about her story and photos, some are dark but they all have beauty and they show a real story. 💕
I think the interviewer, Morton Krogvold, did an excellent job here, balancing empathy and respect for Lene Marie's artistry and his genuine concern for her well being. He does guide her to give some very interesting answers to his questions. I think that it is very important to humanize people with mental illness, to understand that a severely mentally ill person can be exceptionally intelligent and creative, to understand how we can connect with them, to support them through their struggles. True empathy and respect is not enabling, it is providing an authentic connection that can lead to better things. I understand that Lene Marie died not long ago, which is incredibly tragic, but I think that Morton should look back at this interview in a positive way, and remember how he connected to her as an artist and a person.
I really want this girl to recover. I want her to have health and true happiness. Hard to believe that this horrific disease has become her normal.
Sorry to inform you but she died in 2019.