Landscape Photography - The White Cliffs at Seven Sisters
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- The White Cliffs are one of England's most famous coastlines, with iconic scenery stretching several miles along the south coast. I visited Seven Sisters to capture some landscape photography of this beautiful coastline.
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0:00 Intro
1:55 Capturing the view
2:25 VND filter
3:55 Photographs in the South Downs
4:28 Capturing the view back up
4:56 Cows
5:46 White Cliffs
6:45 Crossing the river
10:55 The view from the top
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Lots of comments about my VND filter. The variable ND filter will essentially darken the image by the amount of stops you choose on the dial. This allows you to slow the shutter, and helps prevent your highlights from clipping. I mentioned dynamic range in the video, not because the VND will change the DR, but to highlight how it will help prevent losing the highlights at the top end of your cameras dynamic range. Also, the VND will not change the colour of your photos. That’s done in post processing. Thanks! 😊
I must confess, I still don't get it. haha.
I'm still struggling to understand why you need a longer shutter speed unless it's to give a smaller aperture but I can't see how it stops the highlights clipping compared with reducing the exposure via exposure compensation. Unless the variable ND is doing something different compared with say a standard ND
I think what people are confused by and/or trying to correct, is the comments about highlight preservation and the stated needs and purpose of the variable ND filter. The "neutral" part of neutral density means the filter affects the entire image equally. So there is no selective dimming of the highlights and using 3 stops of VND to darken the image is identical to using 3 stops of shutter speed to darken the image.
What you're seeing as "preserved highlights" vs simply changing the shutter speed is not caused by the neutral density darkening, but rather by the mechanism with which an ND filter is made variable. A VND is two polarizer filters stacked and the darkening is caused by the interaction of the angles of the two polarizing filters. So what you are seeing as preserved highlights on glary surfaces is actually an inadvertent consequence of the polarization effect that a VND also applies cutting out some spectral glare on bright surfaces.
@@adventureuav THIS i understood. Thank you.
@@adventureuav I wanted to say something similar, but you wrote it much better than I could have!
You can tell you have a new energy in this video. Making that decision to change the channel back to its roots was clearly the correct one.
Thanks - it certainly feels good!
I wasn’t part of your channel but I happened upon the last video we’re you said that you’re moving away from the algorithm and I’m with you man. What I want is to see nature and drives you to chose the crops you shoot from it, the process and you enthusiasm. Thanks for you decision.
So kind - thank you ☺️
You are so much happier doing landscape, and passing on chasing the algorithm.... Congs
Thank you!!
Stunning views!!!
I love the calmness, that is what i inspire to do, photography is such an amazing thing, even more so if you can enjoy the nature side of it! I have scotland on the list, and switserland (someday hopefully)
Can feel your happiness being back in your world of Landscape Photography you want to show us :-).
With greetings from lower Bavaria.
Just relaxing, and friendly, and SO beautiful. I came back tired after a very long day at work, and was just looking for something to watch. It's just lovely - thank you, Chris!
A variable ND filter is not changing the dynamic range of a scene, it just makes everything darker - just like the aperture, ISO or speed setting does. In other words, instead of f/10, 1/640, ISO 400 with ND3 you could haven chosen f/10, 1/320 and ISO 100 without any change to the brightness of the cliffs or the dramatic clouds. Did I miss anything?
Yeah, it's bringing down the exposure and increasing the shutter speed.But, in trying to explain it, it made sense in my head at the time to talk about it in dynamic range terms. cheers!
I think that variable nd filters are two polarisers. As you rotate one it increases the darkening effect. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a ‘dynamic range damping’ not just a scene darkening effect due to the polarisers. I imagine a circular polariser would give better, more controlled, sun control with less darkening.
@@ChrisOrange Thanks Chris, that makes sense. The results are stunning anyhow. I like the square formats in particular - giving landscapes some gravity and old-fashioned-ness that supports your color grading.
@@johannesgeenen4169thanks - I really love the more ‘filmic’ tones.
You are an inspiration.
That’s so kind of you - thank you!
You should always remember to think longer term.
These sort of videos are wonderful, timeless and classic and will be loved by future generations who may be watching this in a world without the cameras of today. So just enjoy yourself and stay true to what photography is about.
Lovely words - thanks!! 😊
Your joy is palpable, and I loved every second of this video.
Thank you - so kind!
Great video Chris what a lovely way to spend a day, twofold experience exploring and photography what could be better than that.
I knew the area well as a boy, it is very photogenic. We would walk over Seaford Head to Cuckmere Haven, great views of the Seven Sisters from the top (and blackberries). Or from East Dean down to the Birling Gap, over the cliffs to Beachy Head and the lighthouse. I used to think pebble beaches were normal but they are rare. They shelve and then drop steeply into deep water to catch the unaware in the strong tides.
thanks for your comment Jeff. It's a really photogenic area. Plus, I love how easy it is to create a more filmic look to the images there too. Something about the grass colours and texture really helps.
Enjoyed your video! Your natural ... showing the process and I love it.
The pictures of the white cliffs are so beautiful and sensitive. Thanks for sharing💫
Still here watching what you do and how you do it not what you do it with. I must get down to the 7 sisters again soon, thanks for reminding me about what’s on our doorstep. Keep up the good work
Thanks - lovely place to keep visiting and live. You should definitely make the most of it 😊
Great video!
Smashing video! I was one that subbed from the last video and I am delighted I did! I very much look forward to following along with your adventures!
Love the images too! 👍😀
I'm not sure why, but the shot at 6:40 I find so captivating! Thank you for sharing these images.
Subscribed after your previous video. I believe you will find a sense of genuine satisfaction by sticking to what you feel is right, rather than playing the game everyone else plays. Keep it up and all the best!
Thank you so much! 😊
Great video!
Really want to visit all of Great Britain someday. Such beautiful vistas!
I could just sit there looking at those cliffs for hours! 👍🏻
Belle come sempre 👋👋.
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Isn’t this the best hobby to spend your free time, it must be. You will enjoy the Summicron asph, I got it two months ago and I’m very pleased with it.
Damn, I'd have happily spent a lot longer with you. Just the sort of photography content I love. Plenty of advice, soft non-egotistical delivery and, ultimately, inspiring to watch.
Thank you - so glad you enjoyed the film 😊
Thanks, Chris! I'm more envious of your environs than your gear :)
Haha! 😆
Beautiful
Keep on this track, Chris, I much prefer this format. It was fun hanging with you (virtually) while you do what you do. Some nice tips casually thrown in and some cracking images. Those clouds were a godsend weren't they!
Thanks Keith - very kind of you! Yeah, I was worried it was all going to be blue sky when I arrived. So glad for those clouds!
Lovely lovely place...and love the pictures 😀
Hi Chris, I am a recent subscriber after I watched your video on becoming totally focussed on the photography and not gear reviews and tips and tricks, this is what I was looking for. I am fortunate enough to live close to the Seven sisters coast line and have taken some decent images of the cliffs and cottages that we all see as a back drop to TV adverts and dramas. Sunset really helps bring out the colours and texture of the cliffs. Great work please keep the landscape videos coming.
Very glad you are keeping up the good work, and doing what you enjoy.
dont worry, be happy. At 11:00 light is so beautiful
Dude, I love your attitude.
Thank you!
I completely agree Chris. Once you pick up a Leica you are hooked. I have been an advanced photographer for 40 years, not as a professional or paid work but rather for self expression and to record significant events in my life. I started out with Olympus, Mamimya, Yaschica film cameras. Then in the 90s I bought my first Canon EOS film camera and that got me started with the brand until digital came out. Shot with Canon, Sony, Nikon and Fuji. Loved Fuji colors, presets and UI. Once I picked up a Leica I knew I would own one. My first was the Leica Q; then the SLS-2 (had two of those), Q2 and now about to purchase an SL2. Thought about the Fuji GFX 100s but realized that its not about chasing megapixels...it's all about what's in front of the sensor. Leica glass is arguably the best. The color science or algorithm of the SL is unique for sure although I rather prefer the SL2-S's color science. All down to taste I guess. But welcome and congratulations with your new Leica. Many happy years to come.
yeah, the Leica's are unique. I had the GFX100s for a year and sold it because even though it had incredible M pix and detail, it didn't have the soul of the Leica for my tastes. I'll get the SL2-S at some point, but for now am enjoying buying the Leica glass as it's incredible.
Great video! I was curious what the difference between a variable ND and a faster shutter speed is? I, perhaps incorrectly, thought they were just useful if you wanted a slower shutter speed?
Thanks! They’re definitely useful for slower shutter speeds and the effect that brings. But, they’re also good for protecting highlights and detail. I find that they also help preserve strong colours as well
A bit of a semi local patch for me, Cuckmere Haven, Seven Sisters and Seaford Head. So many different opportunities to get some great images besides the one everyone seems to take of the Coastguard Cottages. Been up there several times after dark, with a full moon and no moon, it's just a magical place, though I've never been brave enough to cross the Cuckmere were it enters the sea. Great video, only just found your channel, good luck with it.
Love this video @chrisorange.
I subscribed because of your previous video!!!
thank you! by the way, I've been getting messages from people advising me to ask people to consider clicking the notification bell, otherwise the algorithm apparently won't show my videos in the feed. If that's something you're able to do, thanks! 😊
I'm a new subscriber to your channel so haven't really watched any of your past work when it comes to equipment reviews. This is your channel and am glad to hear you are getting back to your roots. I for one don't particularly care for equipment reviews until it's time for me to shop for something specific. I actually spent a lot of money on an expensive filter kit recommended by another professional photographer here on TH-cam. A then a month or so later that same photographer claims to almost never use an ND filter when shooting landscapes. I bought mine more for shooting waterfalls than anything else but it's nice to know of other uses of the filters like you've demonstrated in this video. I hope through your channel I will gain more insight into compositions than anything else. Maybe some of the camera settings you use as well. Thanks for sharing as much as you do and contributing to the photography community. TH-cam isn 't always about attempting to make money. In fact I think that would just take all the fun of it.
Love these new videos, Chris.
Thank you!!
Great video, thanks Chris. I happened to come across your goodbye stream last week by chance and have now subscribed. I follow several landscape photographers and look forward to their new content only to find it's about the latest £3,000 lens or what's in my bloody bag. Love your enthusiasm, passion and guidance. So refreshing.
thanks Allan - so kind of you to comment. Glad you enjoyed the film 😊
I second your comment Alan, came from a similar place. Greetings from Australia Chris!
Your explanation of what an ND filter does is the best I’ve heard. Simple, to the point, and easy to understand. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful - thanks!
Love the pictures! Like that you can almost see my house. If your this way again I can recommend the high and over for sunrise shots!
ah, how nice that you live there. I nearly came for sunrise, but I'm just getting over COVID again and so needing lots of sleep. Cheers!
Hey Chris. Since you have made this change a direction, with the channel, it might be worth mentioning to the viewers that they may have to turn on "all notifications" for TH-cam to let the know about the videos. I suspect there are many others that are really looking forward to the new content, but I won't come up in their feed, because it's not a gear related video feeding the algorithm. Probably worth a couple of community posts too. I had to come to your TH-cam page to find the new videos.
That’s really helpful to know - thank you! I’ll do just that!
Originally subbed when you did the X-T1 video here, good to see a return to out in the field videos, really enjoyed it
Love the video Chris! It is a special place…I always find your landscape videos very calming, not preachy but educational and informative. Also love the images! 👍🏻
Thank you ☺️
Probably my favourite spot for landscape photography and you pointed me in the right direction! Great video Chris and love the video
thanks John 😊 lovely location for pics and walks 👍
I'd honestly love to see some of your work on film (I know the medium is a small part of the result, but I just love the film look and process, tbh)!
Great video! Your explanations leave something to be desired, see comments, but it’s interesting to watch someone else setting up and taking a photo, and your photos are really nice by the way. You’re putting the adventure of photography by into photography. Thanks
Great video Chris. I once got chased by a herd of cows in a field in the Cotswolds and it scaring the ever-living shit out of me. Live in Australia now and aggressive 'roos, red-belly black snakes and wedge-tailed sea eagles (with the drone) are more of a problem!
Enjoyed bumping in to your channel on the video you did about the TH-cam algorithm. . .
It really is just a huge trap designed to benefit the platform only. It amazes me that photographers (and everyone else) just shrug their shoulders and keep making content to feed the algorithm. . . Nevertheless, I also enjoyed watching this video. You have a good eye and it goes to show that the fun is to get out there & frame the picture well so it doesn't need too much sauce afterwards ! .........Congrats and subscribed.
Water looks cold!
I love the direction you are taking with your channel and I only discovered it from the previous video.
I work in online tech and have worked with some ex google and Facebook engineers, I've also been to quite a few TH-cam growth events at their London HQ and this current perpetual cycle we find ourselves in regarding content of any type, video, online print news, social or similar is all built on similar algorithms.
They were never designed to target certain content but to evolve and be driven by data (engagement, retention, sharing, commenting and subscription - each given a ranking).
In the beginning sensationalisation and fakery wasn't a thing. The algo never saw that or learn't from it. But, creators started to produce, by mistake initially, but they would see their stats skyrocket. The algo then started to see this become repetitive and not an anomaly to ignore and it encouraged more and more people to produce similar content. This content became so widespread that the entire platform adapted to a new average (stats wise - engagement / views / shares etc) with this content driving a new set of engagement standards.
It perpetuates a constant feedback loop of chasing sensationalisation and the current worrying trend is using staged fakery to propel the content even further.
I'm not proud to be part of the online tech space, I'm very opposed to this specific thing actually. News is the worst for me, articles that get the most engagement are often very polarising and divisive topics which I believe is very harmful for people who constantly read this news (mainly the tabloids).
I'm only saying all of this because I wish it would be widely recognised and people start to make changes for the better. Better quality content, richer and deeper experiences. I think you are the first content creator I've seen making a concerted effort to pull back from this perpetually damaging feedback loop.
The tech sector has a lot to learn despite claiming to be so advanced. I think it is very damaging for peoples opinions, thoughts and ideas but I'm very glad to see this, as a guy who grew up taking landscape photos with my grandad and having done so to a basic standard for 30 years, I enjoy being out in nature and experiencing countrysides and coasts perhaps more than the capture. Good luck with the new direction.
thanks for your insight - really interesting to hear from someone who works in the tech space. I notice this a lot with news too - in fact social media seems to use the algorithm to create echo chambers so that people keep seeing the same opinions over and over again, thus confirming their opinions. It's hard to get away from it, but I guess I'm stepping away so that I can focus on what I love and see if anyone else wants to come along for the ride. Cheers! 👍
@@ChrisOrange Indeed, confirmation bias from that echo chamber is very real. Unfortunately heavily exploited, think Cambridge analytica scandal which still goes on today. Look forward to your future videos!
The photograph at 10:50 is a beautiful composition--you've got two horizontal bands of sea split by the cresting tide and two horizontal bands of sky split by the cloud layer with one band of sea broken vertically by the piers sinking in a centered triangle. Really impressive geometry.
thank you - really kind of you to mention that 😊
Chris, interesting use of an ND filter. I’ve only every used one for long exposures of moving water. Could you do a comparison of using an ND filter against underexposing your shot (using exposure compensation) on some of your landscape outings? It would be interesting to see what you conclude.
There's a comment from @adventureauv in reply to Chris Orange's comment on the use of VND that explains why using a variable ND is different from a "regular" ND filter.
In short, what a variable ND does is use 2 polariser filters at varying angles. This reduces light and affects highlights differently due to polarisers.
A "regular" ND cuts light equally across all intensities.
@@TimvanderLeeuw Thanks
I'm a noob that NEVER shoots in bright light because I personally very much dislike all the hard light and hard shadows. I think the VND filter just allowed me to not wait for only overcast days to shoot! :D
Beautiful photos - love those white cliffs! 😊
Many thanks!
What a fantastic video! I love the way that you show how you composed the shot, then show the final picture. The video is as artistic and interesting as the photos. Really beautiful.
Thank you - really kind!!
Wow! Found this channel after the video where you said you would just be doing landscapes no tech stuff. I'm not a photographer, and not interested in photography, but I am subscribed now and will be watching all your vids. It is such gentle and uplifting content. This is the internet at its best. 🙏
Thank you so much ☺️
Thank you for sharing this! The setting you chose was a great area to show what the VND filter can do, and how can assist in our photography journey.
Thanks for the video. I think it would really help to show the images for a longer period of time.
Now I kinda need to pause to have a better look at them 😅
Hi from Honduras, Central America, your videos are amazing, you describe every single detail so well that I feel like if I'm there. beautiful landscapes, beautiful photos. Congratulations.
That’s so kind of you - thanks!! ☺️
Lovely video - thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it! 😊
Have you thought about bringing a trekking pole? I find it very helpful for water crossings. So I alwayst keep one in my car. Best $25 I've ever spent.
Yeah, I have a couple so should bring one with me 👍
Thanks for a gentle video to begin my day.
I prefer to use a polariser to help boost some of the natural colours, but only on glaring days. My ND filters rarely come out, unless I want long exposures in bright conditions.
cool, I love CPL filters too, but I keep getting sand in the grooves which makes it hard to put them on next time 🤪
Great video Chris, have been lacking motivation to get out with my camera recently (don't know why) but after watching your video can't wait to get out and about again so many thanks. Keep up the good work 👍👍
so pleased to have been a little help in that - thanks!
Learning a good bit just from watching your decision making. I recently took a shot at buying a cheap VND that I still need to dabble with, but it really is only for dabbling at this point.
fab, it's like putting a pair of sunglasses in front of the lens. helps with strong colours and glare.
@@ChrisOrange I think I need to buy a better one. Mine was $35 and leaves a blue over all of the detail from what I’ve seen, even with MF.
Yeah, that doesn’t sound great. The really good ones won’t affect the colour at all.
Great vidio
thank you!
Love your videos ♡
thank you - so kind of you to say!
Fascinating video, I never considered using a variable nd filter. Time to reconsider. Thank you.
Thanks - VND filters are really rather useful for me. I love that they're so easy to use and carry in the bag too.
I think this is just the second video I've watched of yours... and first out in the field- However I absolutely LOVE the edit and colour you go for in your resulting images
That one of the Coastguard Cottages has a real painterly look to it, is beautiful
Need to get back down there to the Seven Sisters and Beachy Head Lighthouse myself soon, as its been an age since I've travelled down there
Thanks - the landscape is stunning down there. Very ‘filmic’ friendly for photos with texture
Do you find the variable ND better than a CPL for sky, cloud and sea, or different purpose?
Is the amber colour profile a product of the filter or something you manage in post? The colouration is not unlike some of my old film photos from there, they have faded a little as I have come to digitise and restore some of them.
I do prefer the VND as it seems to do a little more to the photo. The final colouring on the image was my post processing. This VND doesn't change the colouring at all.
I’ve never seen anyone else use an ND off a tripod let alone an variable ND (except for video) . I must give that a spin, NZ of course is seascape heaven and in strong light the sparkles off the surf and water generally can be very problematic. 😀
Nice - I think it would really help you to control the light over the sea in your shots. Cheers!
Hey Chris, I’m new-ish to landscape photography, do you have a favourite book / resource for finding spots to shoot in the UK?
Hi, I tend to travel to coastal, mountains and wild landscapes in the UK. Lots of google searching to find my locations
Best landscape channel I've found, thank you for being totally objective.
Thank you - so very kind of you 😊
Loved watching this Chris, especially as my wife is an East Sussex girl. A couple of questions: (1) With your ND filters, do you always use screw-in variable NDs, or do you ever use graduated? (2) There seemed to be a distinct yellow-green cast on many of your final images. Was that a conscious decision in post-processing, e.g., with a preset, or a characteristic of your camera?
thanks - the colours were all my post processing of the images. The VND doesn't affect the colours at all. I love images that have that warmer tone, so I do it in post with y own presets. I do have many different filters, such as Grads etc, but this is my favourite as it's east to throw in the bag and makes a real difference.
Nice video. A question on the variable ND, how does it prevent the highlights from blowing out? I thought the purpose was to decrease the light across the entire range, to allow you to get long exposures, for example, or use a wide aperture in bright conditions. It also seems to be producing a warm colour cast, or was that does in post?
Great video! Thank for the ND filter information. Will a CPF do the same thing?
Very similar- a CPL will also do more to reduce reflection too, as long as you’re 90 degrees from the sun
Thank you.
Inspiring stuff sharing your thought processes and knowledge, thank you. Mind you, I’d have kept my boots on, soggy socks or not! 😅
I did try to keep the boots on, but it was really deep 🤪
Any particular season that gets the most dramatic weather (skies)?… thanks!! 💨💨💨
I would say late autumn or early spring would give the most dramatic skies
Fantastic video, thanks for sharing those amazing landscapes with us. Please review your microphone, sometimes the audio is not on top❤
Thanks - yeah, as much as I love its simplicity the mic is reaching the end…cheers!
Is it a good idea to use a polariser in bright daytime sunlight when you’re mainly doing clouds and landscapes, inland rather than somewhere with water reflections? Or would I be better off with a VND? I’ve been trying with a polariser but to be honest I’m not too happy with it, it makes everything slightly unnatural. Is the VND doing more than what you’d get with a faster shutter speed, correct? I also got my boots soaked at that location…
Very nice video, nice images!
And I'll say it again, isn't it ironic that your video where you say you want to break free of the push of the TH-cam algorithm, is the video that is the most popular with the algorithm and ends up boosting the channel so much? :-D
Oh the irony! Made me laugh 😂
Excellent channel. I have two questions. By 50mm you mean 50 mm on full-frame is suppose? I saw that you changed the colour to a warmer setting. In your last photo. I often do that but then I wonder, am I not exaggerating. What is your opinion on that matter? Thank you!
thanks - yeah, it was a 50mm on a full frame sensor. I have no issues with making the colours as I want to see them. If I was shooting for the press, then it would be different as it would be news etc and so the facts would be an issue. But, this is art and so I want the photo to be just as I want to see it, which means processing the image in a way that I will want to look at again. Hope that helps 😊
@@ChrisOrange Yes it certainly does. When I started with photograpy 50 years ago, there were no zoomlenses and when you bought a camera it was with 50mm. About 6 years ago I bought a D700 and used the same lens with which I started (50mm f.20 AI). For the sake of having the best affordable 50mm I bought a Z5 with the 1.8 z lens but this was too superficial sharp so I sold that camera and lens. But a 35 or 50 mm is all you really need for great photo's.
I’m keen to see what 24mp looks like printed.
Which brand vnd do you use? Sorry again a brand question 😅
😂
It’s the Lee Filters Elements VND 2-5 stops
Sorry but I don't understand, an ND filter doesn't reduce the dynamic range of if it does it is probably composed of two polarising filters and you are using some of the polariser effect ... Which you would get with just a circular polariser. Indeed a circular polariser would do that (as well as suppress a stop of light or two), a gradient grey would also do that if you wanted to reduce the brightness of half of the picture (a gradient any colour actually but the grey one is the only one what doesn't change the colours)... And nowadays with cameras dynamic range, you can also do a lot of that in post or bracket and combine images if the dynamic range is extreme.
Anyway, that doesn't make the pictures any less beautiful.
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Capturing pictures is important, not the equipment, for expressing your kind of photography. Vivian Maier for instance didn't see the most part of her captures before she died. The only difference between single brands is the typical brand look of its sensor and lenses, like the difference between Fuji and Leica; they are quite different, there ist no "better" or "worse". I do understand, that you, Chris, are curious for the different results.
Thanks - it’s great using different sensors for sure
@@ChrisOrange BTW: I capturing with Q-P, Q2-M and SL, too
Chris… why not take the same photos and use exposure compensation
I do use exposure comp too. The VND helps to cut through any glare, like wearing sunglasses
Sorry, but I have to say that the explanation of how and why a ND filter is used and it’s effects is quite misleading. You indicate that it compresses dynamic range when it does not. It reduces light reaching the sensor but equally for all tonal ranges. It is most typically used to allow the use of slower shutter speeds in bright light. Your explanation will tend to confuse beginners or anyone not familiar with ND filters.
Thanks for comment - I mentioned dynamic range with regards to ND filters just to help give people an idea of how it will help to protect the highlights. I also explain how the variable ND filter works, so I’m sure it’ll be ok. 👍
@@ChrisOrangeJust to help me understand are you setting a fixed exposure and then moving the variable ND filter to stop your highlights blowing out - still trying to understand what the ND filter does compared with dialing in exposure compensation