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If you water using capillary mat or homemade wecking bed (plastic liner, perlite or pouzzolane water filled + woven fabric used as gardening mulch on top) you can put your air pots on top of it so you don’t need your metal wire fence at the bottom. Air pruning at the bottom will be done in the dry cycle & sunlight easily. It’s easy to control large amount of plants with such system specially for indoor & greenhouse. It just increase RH a little. You don’t have to water often, drying is slow and natural... you can move your pots on it without problem. You just need a well aerated pot mix (50+% of perlite is a good start) and well hand compress it when potting.
Love your work,
Regards,
Kus from France.
From working with airpots in a tree nursery the top ridge doesn't have holes to prevent water running off out them. Just a suggestion :)
Wow. Thanks. Very nice detail to know. How do you handle the air pots on tree sale? Does the client return the pot or pay for it?
@@my_permaculture I think you can do either way since it's so easy to take off and clean off.
I could swear you are living in Northern Alberta, Canada, on Highway 40 (South)! Wow your entire landscape looks like what I see when I’m out for a drive. But your accent, then reference to Euro, definitely stopped me in my tracts! Great idea for air pruning pots! Good luck. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t a vole about the size of a mouse?
That would save some drilling
Great tip! I am looking to grow fruit trees in pots as I might be moving in about 5 years. What is the best way to container grow them? I am not looking to have them grow more than about 7 feet. Can this be a permanent way of growing them?
The material is called polypropylene sheet drain, but it's only sold in large rolls, so if you're wanting to make just a couple pots, this isn't the solution unless you can find some scraps somewhere.
Where can I purchase those sheets?
@@geriannroth449 In the US you can find it most places that flooring is sold as it's used over concrete slabs as an underlayment for flooring to keep moisture and water seepage separated from the flooring.
@siggyincr7447 ok thanks
What is the material name that you used? I can't find it anywhere
Search for Polypropylene Sheet Drain. eBay has it.
DMX One Step. Home Depot has it
Also seen it called dimple drainage on google search
@@bigsmiler5101 can i found it at alibaba....??? Can u give me link on alibaba plezzzzz...?????
@@bigsmiler5101 Not in the US. What they do have is very expensive.
I love you for this! 😂 Was about to spend somewhat 300-500 euros on airpots, but now I am making my own, thanks mate! 😁🙏🏽
Hello, excellent video and very useful to improve the development of potted plants. I would like to know what is the generic name of the material you use (or the commercial name). I have looked it up at Home Depot here in Florida, USA and I have not been able to find it. I'd like to track down something equivalent here. Greetings and thanks in advance.
I've found a similar product called miradrain for waterproofing basements
@@AUS10indeed Tnx. I found the common name to be dimple drainage board
Trying to source the material you use to make the air pruning pots. Whay is it called? Where can I find?
Thanks for your time and LOVE the channel!
Dimple drainage board
@@scottoldham7459 Thanks, Scott.
Love this and love saving money.! Great job guys. My only concern is the Fact White Zip Ties are NOT UV stable. Which mens they will disintergate! Any other color would work better. Many people do not know this. Keep up the good work. Add me to watch my future farm. Coming soon.
but their lifespan for this [project will only need to be for 1 year when they will be cut off/undone AND theyre being kept within a poly tunnel, so outof direct sunlight.
@@icryostorm3727 Good point. Your most likely right. They should hold up.
agreed,,all zip ties are bad
@@icryostorm3727 If the zip ties undone and reused then fine but cutting of every year is environmental disaster with plastic not degrading. It would be much better metal wire used and reused - just a suggestion
My problem with the Airpot was our 110°F+ Texas summer temps and maintaining moisture. I would need a timed watering system to keep plants alive in them.
For the project I MUST do Today I'm going to use 4" perforated drain pipe. I'll order this material and see what happens BY USING A BELT SANDER TO KNOCK OFF THE SURFACE TO CREATE THE HOLES. I'll try to remember to report on how that works. IF you try it I think running the sander at a lower speed is needed to prevent the plastic from melting onto the sandpaper. HOWEVER, a belt sander would be okay for doing one sheet at a time. Drilling can do a hundred sheets at a time. (Get extra-long bit if doing mass production.)
-- HOW I did this: THE PERFORATION SLITS ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE TO BENEFIT AIR PRUNING. so I put a 2x4 lumber inside the perforated pipe to keep it straight. {You can use non-perferated drainpipe since the slits are in a useless location.} Then with a circular saw I cut a very shallow slit down the length--six places around the perimeter. Then I cut the pipe into 6-inch lengths. I set all these on metal "stucco lath" (an expanded metal) which is supported by other simple materials (wood).
pop holes by placing multiple nails (4-5 rows?) hammered through a 2x4 and hammer on the flat sheets of black plastic instead of drilling?
I was thinking a piece of plywood the same size as the plastic, with roofing nails or similar. An hour to layout the plywood grid and install the nails, but way faster than drilling in the end if you had very many to do.
I use grow bags as well especially important this year as we had a years worth of rain in less than the first six months. Do the voles bite through cloth? Some people use chicken wire lined with burlap or landscape fabric to keep the dirt in. Would take less work I think 🤔. Really enjoy your problem solving ingenuity. Thanks
Tip: Put a row of sharpened pipes or nails in hard wood. Make distances like bottle caps and a pressure spring on the outer ones. Make some pressure on it and you have a centered row like a hole punch.
These pots dry out really fast and require much more water than your standard container. Be sure to figure that into your costs. They do make really nice roots though.
Larry Hall has a ....Grow Bag ... Awesome and Cheap... Resuable Year after Year... Mine are 6+ years old and in Great condition $1 each
airpots are more efficient than growbags and you don't have to destroy them or part of the root system when you remove the plant after 2+ years.
it depends. For a small amount of pots at home it might be a good option, but you need to get them out realy easy. In this way you need a lot of zippers, but might be okay. Maybe the he can buy the original drill thing to stick the sides together. From my experience the bags work realy well, but you have to water them more often, but you get a lot of fine roots. That's great. But getting the plant out of the bag was not that easy. It is possible by turning them inside out. And I am not sure about the durability of the bags. Sometimes they are made out of PP-fabric and from my experience pp fabric disband after time, but the few I have are still in shape after a few years, but I have payed more then 1 Euro for that bags and If I need a lot of them I realy would try the home made air pots (what I am doing at the moment) He could have also ordered them from Alibaba. But I am not that kind of sure how long this will take and if it''s work.
I have used both air pots are way better. In fact I will never use the bags again for trees.
is there an update since 3 years ago? has it worked for you?
What is the name of the material and where can I buy it? I mightve missed you say it, this is a great idea to save money!
Polypropylene Sheet Drain
@@GrandmaSezSo : THANK YOU Very Much!
you know those 'green' super market bags? they work just as well as air pots. every part of the bag is breathable material which has the same effect of reducing/stopping plants becoming root bound plus they have handles for easy moving & they're pretty durable & reusable & they're cheap
now this is a great idea, and you could probably get them very cheap if you buy them in bulk directly from a supplier
about how long will the bags last when used this way?
@@Michael-ki5oz i suppose they wouldnt last long if they are biodegradable. But its a great idea
I was about to use the fabric grocery bags till I got reminded of the air pots. I've seen the bags used a few times but the roots can't escape out the sides for the roots to die and create new. Yes the bags are breathable. Plus when the bags get picked up it would disrupt the soil which effects roots and the plant. I'm curious how are the just a good? I know they work good. If I don't do the Air pots , I'm doing the Walmart bags and thought to double them instead of just one. What's your thoughts on 2 bags
Just a query- in calculating cost, did you factor in man hours? There are a few workers on the job by the looks which means they’re not working elsewhere.... Time is money 💰 so I guess the question is: was it worth it?
I like the way your mind works. Wish I could find employees who can grasp this concept. However, he mentions time-to-do around the 7:10 minute point. Depends on price per hour of people. This Could be a task kids could do... if only I could find kids who can stay focused for more then ten minutes.
Its something you can do in winter , when there is a really bad weather etc ... so i wouldn't say it's a waste of time
What's the name of those sheets & where can I purchase them?
Sorry I'm late , traffic was heavy. Held me up for three yrs
Ha. For the bottoms instead of chicken wire , use food grade 5 gallon bucket lids with drilled holes . Their round and ridgid.
Yeah! I feel the summer season Ridgedale mojo power arising again in this video. Feels good. Superb idea with the DIY air pots. I guess this gave me just the right input for very high quality woody plant probagation nursery, where the air pot problem was always the bottle neck, as the expensive pot could not stay with clients. Under 1€ is a different mark, where giving the pot to a potential client would be no problem. Thank you so much for sharing this practical idea.
Is there any update to this video? I’d like to see how the roots did.
Only worth building your own if you are doing a huge project or selling them as the smallest rolls will cost about $80-200 Can. at a place like Home Depot.
Ive always thought about corigated drain pipe. ... Just cut it to 12in pieces . and I dont use bottoms .i dig a hole and pot the pot / liner over it. The roots can go into the ground but wont drownd and everything I feed stays in the root zone.
Polypropylene Sheet Drain great idea and the best part it is high temp plastic make it perfect for sitting out in the sun. Thank you for sharing this money saving tip.
You need to assign a cat 🐈 to vole/mole/mouse control. Set your cat up with a cat tower. My cat was fed/watered and lived inside, but she worked for treats. She also controlled rabbits 🐇 and squirrels 🐿. Kept them from leaving ankle spraining/breaking holes and eating my veggies/fruit garden. We had a deal, she ate the vole parts she want and left a small amount for me to see. I would give her treats, praise her and ask her to finish her kill. I would come back later. If her kill was gone it was one more treat, if not, no treat. When I left and my ex’s girlfriend moved in she asked how I stopped everything from eating the garden, I explained cat control. LisaBissett
Awesome! Such a good idea! We are struggling to get root trainers in Kenya and importing them is not an option for our context, will attempt to replicate with flimsy seedling trays with holes drilled already, won't be as cheap but our cheapest and most ecologically sound option...
How about pots made out of compressed coconut?
Richard is that material sturdy enough to put some rope handles on the pots for ease of moving them around if I made bigger ones? I was literally about to buy weed guard fabric and sew my own growbags but I've heard some good things about that style of airpot design. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks
I want to make a similar pot, can you tell me something about this experiment? Is it worth it? I can't find any more videos about these pots on your channel.
How much milimeter drain membrane
Anyone know where you can buy these plastic sheets in Canada?
hello, can you please give a link where I can purchase the black plastic material you used for the walls of the air pots in this video? I am in the US and I am not finding a similar material here . . . thank you
Since the guy is living in Sweden I'm guessing he's bought materials there.... Probably not even online....
Have you considered treasury tags instead of cable ties to secure the sides? They might save you a bit of time during assembly and they're easily dissassembled for storage.
What are treasury tags and where can I purchase them?
@@geriannroth449 You can buy them in stationery shops.
They're like a small piece of twine with either metal or plastic at each end. You put it through the punched hole in paper and twist the ends together.
So how did these work out? I looked through your videos and didn't see a follow up to this. My initial thoughts are the wire mesh might be too open and allow for the soil to migrate through over time, might be better to cut circular pieces of the same material. Or maybe make these foldable four-sided in design.
Please tell me the name of the plastic sheet from which you are making air/root training pot in your video
What was the man hour labor costs for making the air pruning pots?
could you do something to increase the peredators that eat voles?
Thank you so much for all of your videos! This channel is so informative and underrated.
i'm well into the video and have no idea what the black plastic 'building material you put between the foundation and the soil' is called. brilliant - the only bit of information i need. the concept could be conveyed with a single still image and names of materials but instead we get 12 minutes of useless rambling.
Richard, what is the name of the plastic sheets you are using? You say it at 4:30 but I can't get it...
Thanks!
They are poly drainage sheets used for house foundations.
Thank you, it helps a lot
Any update over time regarding refinements in the root trainers? Zip ties, rabbit fence etc. anything you improved over time?
Why not just do a long continuous air prune bed instead of making so many individuals? Just plant out for a season and transplant bare root in the fall.
wouldnt having multiple plants in the same pot kinda defeat the purpose since the roots would tangle and get damaged in the transplant.
mouse11011 no you make a raised bed but with a gap between the bottom of the bed and the ground and the roots grow very bushy but do not tangle. Also, since they are transplanted while dormant, root disturbance isn’t a huge concern.
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is it work good? i had the same idea few month after seeing this airpot in some growshop, but this price is overrated in my opinion if the diy do the same thing, any buddy had do the same and had a return experience?
Just tried searching for this material. It goes by the names “dimple mat” or “dimple board”
UPDATES?!?
Why not use fabric grow bags instead? Cheaper. Easier to store.
how have them pots turn out? did they work? thank you for the video
A similar product comes up on Lowe’s website as polypropylene drainage sheets.
Just came back looking for exactly this information ;)
still very expensive...
Showing $250 US dollars or a 50 ft x 4 ft roll at Lowes. I wonder how many pots that would make.
@@GrandmaSezSo I'd figure 2x2...that would make 50 pots. At $250 a sheet it's $5 a pot.
Be warned I used a similar product cordrain only lasted six months as it had no UV protection the shit fell apart.
What is the name of the plastic? Where do you get it? Thanks in advance.
Polypropylene Sheet Drain
Just be aware that white cable ties are not UV stable. I’d hate to see these things popping open on you.
Thats what I said. I want everyone to know this. Same with that White PVC people use for irrigation pipe..
@@jimmyrig8971 Its better just to buy replacement Air-Pot fixing screws. For a 100 large size, its $50 but you can reuse these almost forever.
very interesting, have apricot sprouts want to keep and was wondering how... you answered the question faster than I could google. In my yard the Japanese beetles were horrid last year and have been out morning and evening getting the copulating boogers into a soapy bottle to save the grapes and raspberries when I notice the wild grapevine that literally is trying to cover the house hasn't one single skeletal leaf. Not fair.
you need same caps to be turned inside between drilled ones, it prevents water to be dumped off the sides during watering
Not really worth the time or expense for zero production
how did the experiment go?
Gardeners are using fabric style shopping bags from walmart here in the us or landscape fabric to make air pruning pots for tomatoes and other veg. If you made racks from wire to hold fabric bags you could reuse the racks. Your air pots are costing you about $4.00 each. You didn't include labor for 3 men.
I think he said it would take 18 hours making them, to save 1000 euros while listening to podcasts. That's 55 euros per hour.
I have tried even the Root Trainer bags and they have not worked for me. The roots still grew out the sides and bottoms of the bags. They are impossible to move around compared to rigid pots. Plus, he has voles, they will eat thru bags in a heartbeat. I bought Gro Pro Pot elevators for the bases. They are $2.39 a piece but they will last forever and are easier to install, plus no fooling around cutting wire to size and then installing them.
I likes this video far too much 😅
Can you advise what black material/product you used to make the root trainers?
It's called "dimpled drainage matting", e.g. crawlspace-diy.com/product/crawl-space-drainage-matting/
odd I was looking at these Polypropylene Sheet Drain two months ago they were going for $80 per roll of 4'x50' now Lowes selling for $268 per roll what is going on with inflation.
Wow excellent job well done. They want way to much for the same thing $18 🇺🇸 dollars for a five gallon while it took you two days it actually didn’t take them two days because they had a machine in this case you were the machine. Soon no one will buy them but the very rich the rest of us will be making our own, oh and the rich don’t really garden haha. If they don’t come down to a dollar a piece, I’ll never buy them and believe me they won’t go down to a dollar if Anything the cost of an old fashioned pot!
Best video. Thank for idea
Rather than drilling each hole,
how about laying the sheets down bump-up
and grinding the tops off of the bump with a belt sander?
Just a thought.
What’s the proper name for that black plastic bumpy material & where can I find it? 🤔
Looks like "Dampro" at Home Depot in construction materials.
Unfortunately here in Asia are only the one sided dimpled membranes available. I didn't try it for this reason. Will the roots not start coiling in the pot as soon they hit the flat surface of the membrane? The real air pot will "guide" them to the hole which seems for me to be the significant difference. I didn't try it for this reason. Please let us know how they worked out after 2 years.
I would love to hear more on this vineyard concept. Will you prune the vines to keep the grapes from producing up too high to pick? Is there a risk of the vine strangling the tree? Would you need to protect the crop from birds etc? How could you do this? Fascinated by this concept!
(Please, anyone chime in here if you can answer!)
Where can you buy the black plastic the one you drill holes in
Many thanks Gordon
Polypropylene Sheet Drain
Is it food safe plastic?
Perforated drainage pipe would work if there was spares
THANK YOU!!!
@@bigsmiler5101 I've now bought the real thing and you cannot make these to match the quality of the originals....the originals are not expensive when bought in quantity.
@@arusse23 Where did you find the real thing at a reasonable price. Best I've found is $65 for 25 two-gallon pots.
@@bigsmiler5101 direct from the factory in Scotland
@@arusse23 Thank you. However, I've done a search on "Root Trainers/ Air Pots" and don't get a manufacturer, except various Chinese companies that might sell a minimum order of 1,000. Can you give a company name or website, please?
Excellent video but what is the name of the product with which you make the pots? Thank you.
The labor cost to drill out and make the wire bottoms will be more than just buying the real deal.
What is the name of this sheet?
I wanted to buy a few pots for my chillies next year...looks like i am *making* them.
I feel like it’d be easier to plant 1000 seeds in the wild or10 trees in a garden than 1 tree with “trained roots”
I can imagine this , with strawberries and other potting ideas! Awesome indeed!
I imagine these didnt hold the soil well at all. Most fell out the bottom during transport or watering.
What’s that plastic call
I love this project! Great idea that I will borrow for one of my own one day! Keep it up.
Nice
Do you intend to plant your grapes inside the black pots into your vinyard? In order to keep burrowimg rodents from eating them? Is that the purpose?
How do you grow grapes from cuttings i have tried everything i can just to get some wild grapes to grow in yard that grow wild down in the road ditch.
Thanks in advance
You need a few goats. Make a few ferret homes.
Achei do peru.
I'm sure you realize this, but the biological niche for grapes in the temperate environment like yours is the same a figs in the tropical environment and that is to strangle large old trees (by girdling them) which nature wants to replace to encourage various successions. Grown by themselves, grapes are a useful crop, bur eventually you will lose your other trees.
I found this video one hour *AFTER* I ordered my Root Trainers on line LOL but this is brilliant. Cheers from Ottawa, Canada.
Where did you order from ?
@@winnieho8880 It might have been from Amazon. I stopped buying stuff from that site, though.
Where your buy?
I'm in Brazil, what do you call this material?
How much did you save once you included labor cost to make them?
Anyone have a link to the material for the pot bodies?
for bottom part you can use plastic pads that used for press food in jars,barells[plastic] if you know on what i mean that wire its not good because rust after some time.
or best to use same material for hydro isolation just make it triple
Hey Richard any time I see a big wild grapevine in the forest it has strangled the tree and killed it. Are you going to prune the grapes for production? Or how will you keep the grapes from killing the aspens
Fantastic video. Please give me some feedback on how well these worked.
I greatly appreciate your expertise.
What is the plastic used to make the pots?
free labor ?
Why do you have to make holes on side of pots?
If for root training. Open air and light force the roots to self-prune, which then triggers new horizontal root growth. The more horizontal root growth the better, and plants grow better when roots are trained to grow this way. You can get much bigger plants and bigger yields when the roots don't circle the pot and get all bound up.
I am trying to find the plastic you used for these pots. I have done websearch and cannot find anything like this. What is this called?
Try to search for "foundation waterproofing membrane"
You have all kinds of videos. I’m surprised I find explanations for more than a half of my requests, thank you so much, mate. 🖖🏻
What is the plastic called that you are using for this, I‘m having a hard time finding something similar?
Look for polypropylene sheet drain.
thanks
Nice one 😇
Me: Mom I want airpods..
Mom: We have airpods at home!
Airpots at home:
I would instantly lose airport if had them
Morning,it sure would b nice if the grabbed plastics out of the beach's & Oceans, Gone Green....
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