The 1984 Olympics Marathon was insane...

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    0:00 Background
    3:16 Olympic trials
    4:40 1984 Olympics
    11:24 Post-race
    13:53 Conclusion
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  • @peggysmyth6110
    @peggysmyth6110 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +255

    I was among the women who qualifed to run the first Olympic Marathon Trials in Olympia Washington. To this day it is an honor to have run with the best female athletes in Amercia.

    • @CN-nl5cl
      @CN-nl5cl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Im in Olympia Washington! That’s such a cool tidbit. I didn’t know the first Olympic marathon trials were here!

    • @trailgangstaz
      @trailgangstaz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ah honor indeed! Awesome

    • @idkanaccountname
      @idkanaccountname 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah me too

    • @ThinkFusionCo
      @ThinkFusionCo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t know about that one

    • @idkanaccountname
      @idkanaccountname 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m proud to call these women my mother and step-mothers 😊

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I am Joanies age and had to watch in awe as my own knees did not allow any more marathons after 1980. I bounced back in my 40s though. Never give up.

  • @hellogoodbye4061
    @hellogoodbye4061 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Joan spoke before our runner's group in New Hampshire and even ran with us beforehand. One of the most humble and kind-hearted and down to earth individuals you'll ever come to know. Her love, not only the sport of track and distance running, but for running in and of itself knows no bounds.

  • @DrDaveShows
    @DrDaveShows 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I saw the broadcast, watched it the whole time, impatient for them to cut back to the marathon. I remember her gutsy run on the asphalt on the overpass, all alone. The turn into the stadium and the roar of the crowd still gives me chills. What an inspiration to know she was still running in her 60s! WOW! Thanks Joan!

  • @fishflake1209
    @fishflake1209 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    10:06 - That’s not the track Joan started on. While the 1984 Olympic marathon finished at the L.A. Coliseum, the race began on the track at Santa Monica College’s Corsair Field.

    • @RunnerBoi
      @RunnerBoi  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Ah, solid catch. I probably wouldn't have caught that looking back haha.

    • @Sargebri
      @Sargebri 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They have since replaced the grass infield with turf.

    • @davecovey1712
      @davecovey1712 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct.

  • @WillB-xo2xr
    @WillB-xo2xr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    As a Norwegian it hurts to see Grete come in second. But I just have to stand in awe of Beloit's performance, absolutely insane and so well deserved.
    I just want to highlight how important and influential Grete was for running in Norway. Not just for women, but she is still one of our most famous and honored athletes. And this coming weekend, during the biggest running event in Norway, the Oslo Marathon, there is an annual race dedicated to Grete and everything she did to promote sports, athletics and running.

    • @Rebelalliance316
      @Rebelalliance316 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well Norway has produced some amazing athletes the last few years with Jakob Ingebrigtsen and Karsten Warholm breaking world records and taking gold at the Olympics.

    • @shorerocks
      @shorerocks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it is any consolidation, I, a German, have had heard of Grete Waitz but not Benoit. Not that that matters, I know. Just saying 🙂. I started running late in life and seeing the women's performance form 1984 is mind boggling.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was a course marshal at the 1984 Los Angeles Olympic Marathon. Grete Waitz was my sports hero, even though I was a native California resident. The crowd around me got annoyed with me that I was cheering for Grete as she went by instead of our own American runners. I got to meet Grete several times at New York City Marathon events, and she was always kind and gracious and humble.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you read Grete Waitz's autobiography? In her book, Grete said she was given a choice between meeting the King and having a shopping trip - so she chose shopping! I wonder if the King heard about that.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Rebelalliance316 About Norway producing great athletes -- don't forget how they dominate Olympic cross-country skiing and speed skating, besides their excellence in running.

  • @mad8298
    @mad8298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    She was, and is, such an inspiration to women runners. Her amazing achievement in 1984 was the first time I understood that I too could run a marathon. And, I did, NYC in 1986. I, like Joanie, am still running marathons. She has continued to run marathons after the date you have of 2019. She ran, and won her AG, London Marathon in 2022. She's not done yet either. Run Joan Run!!!

    • @dimitar297
      @dimitar297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Women can be inspired by men too you know. Just because she was a woman doesn't mean other women are inspired by her more often than men. By the way, what is a woman?

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dimitar297 This is stupid, to put in the ridiculous 'woke' "what is a woman" phrasing into this story about women's sports heroes. Stop being so silly.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dimitar297 We women WERE inspired more by Grete Waitz than by men, because myself and many other women decided to run a marathon after watching Grete Waitz run and began to see marathons as a sport for women also. You are wrong. I started running the NYC Marathon after watching Grete Waitz do it on TV.

  • @styx85
    @styx85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Benoit was a beast for sure. And Grete Waitz is still a legend; I believe she still holds the record for the most Majors wins of any runner at 12.

  • @htmonaro1969
    @htmonaro1969 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for the video, it brought back very fond memories. I watched it live from Brisbane, Queensland Australia with some of my running mates. Joan Benoit ran with what the French call panache, it was a truly inspirational performance, and one that few older runners will forget.

  • @InfinityCuberRS3M
    @InfinityCuberRS3M 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Wow 3:02 at 60!?!?! Thats absolutely insane

    • @beachplumb
      @beachplumb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Amazing, isn’t it? I remember reading that Bill Rodgers ran a 1:11 half marathon at age 56 or 58. Just incredible.

    • @tacefairy
      @tacefairy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My jaw dropped!!!

  • @erikpeterson25
    @erikpeterson25 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great to be reminded of this race .......awesome performance 👍

  • @tizioincognito.3330
    @tizioincognito.3330 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are probably the best athlete channel I have ever seen.
    Thank you for this content.

  • @70gabino
    @70gabino 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This really takes me back. What a historic race!

  • @moneyandtimefreedom3352
    @moneyandtimefreedom3352 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This choked me up, I love winners but I love winners that have to overcome obstacles. The human spirit is beautiful.

  • @duncancrowley6643
    @duncancrowley6643 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My mom lives down the street from Joan Benoit in Maine. An American legend

  • @runninggirl2765
    @runninggirl2765 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    LOL At the start, I recognized a teammate of mine racing...it was Regina Joyce from Ireland and I recognized her by her stride on the first corner. She ended up 23rd.

  • @migueltherunner
    @migueltherunner 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Jakob, Ingebrigtsen- video in the future, please

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video!

  • @RonLPitts
    @RonLPitts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Factual Error... (10:11) They started the Race at Santa Monica College, NOT at the Coliseum .. I worked the race (The water station at the Bottom of the Marina Freeway, near the Fox Hills Mall) She had QUITE a lead

  • @markmcclure5800
    @markmcclure5800 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She use to run by neighborhood when i was growing up in Cape Elizabeth Maine where she grew up. My dad and I would go jogging on Fowler Rd on ocassion over the years when I was young and she would pass us and say hi. Lol. I think she was a senior or at Bowdoin at that time. Amazing

  • @jacobkilgannon6059
    @jacobkilgannon6059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great presentation bro

  • @monstraft4669
    @monstraft4669 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Please make a Galen Rupp video

    • @monstraft4669
      @monstraft4669 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you don’t I will

    • @burroughslaw3582
      @burroughslaw3582 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro ong we sum American hero documentation

    • @squiglemcsquigle8414
      @squiglemcsquigle8414 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do you want a vid on a cheater

    • @monstraft4669
      @monstraft4669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@squiglemcsquigle8414 he was arguably the best American distance runner for a decade and a half

    • @squiglemcsquigle8414
      @squiglemcsquigle8414 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @monstraft4669 a juiced up one yeah. No one that was part of the nike oregon project is clean. And you are especially dirty if you are still defending a pos like salazar5 years later

  • @onelife8218
    @onelife8218 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rosa Mota, who placed 3rd on this marathon would go to win 1988 Olympic marathon in Seoul.

  • @JohnHoulgate
    @JohnHoulgate 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was in the Coliseum that day and we had a large video screen under the peristyle showing the race on the streets. We watched Joan Benoit all the way until she came through the tunnel. Everyone knew she was coming, but it was no less exciting to see her live coming in to finish that glorious first Women's Marathon. I think the temperature was closer to 80 degrees and maybe warmer on the Coliseum floor.

  • @georgiawalker4320
    @georgiawalker4320 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was there in the L.A. Coliseum when the marathon finished. It was a very proud moment for America when Joan came out of the tunnel onto the track! You can bet the crowd erupted. I was very happy for Joan and happy for the state of Maine where I grew up.

  • @gowers1972
    @gowers1972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    She didn't finish on the same track she started on (10:08)... the race began at Santa Monica College.

  • @_Essential_Divinity_
    @_Essential_Divinity_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey i wanna ask something about the high jump video,why wasnt the woman records there too? just asking out of curiosity.

  • @timliscum2861
    @timliscum2861 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched it on tv at the time.. so cool

  • @basicjimster
    @basicjimster 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if it is something worth considering making a vid about but there was this Japanese female marathoner named Naoko Takahashi, who had an insane resume in athletics because she was not only an Olympic marathon champion in Sydney 2000, but she was also the first woman to break 2 hours and 20 minutes for the marathon in 2001.

  • @beachplumb
    @beachplumb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ingrid Kristiansen went on to set a marathon world record a few years later. I think she may have been the first woman under 2:20(?). But I remember reading an article about her in Runner’s World magazine where they said she did the VAST majority of her training indoors on a treadmill!
    And Rosa Mota ended up winning Boston 2 or 3 consecutive years if I remember right.

    • @Chris-ts9lp
      @Chris-ts9lp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A Japanese runner around 2000 was the first sub 2:20 marathon.
      Kristiansen held the marathon world record until 1998 when Tegla Loroupe broke it.

    • @styx85
      @styx85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, Kristiansen's record was 2:21:06, which she held for 13 years.

    • @daviddunn3179
      @daviddunn3179 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Naoko Takahashi was the first woman under 2:20 . She ran 2:19:46 in Berlin in 2001.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rosa Mota also won the Los Angeles Marathon - and Rosa Mota won the Olympic Gold Medal in the Seoul Olympics.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ingrid did a lot of her training indoors on a treadmill so she could babysit her little boy. In warm weather, she ran on a track while her son played in the infield. Before having her children, she ran most of her miles on roads and trails like other runners. Her husband was in graduate school so he could not babysit.

  • @matthewcreelman1347
    @matthewcreelman1347 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who runs in kilometres, every time I hear a time that’s 5:xx, I keep thinking “oh, that’s not fast at all.” And then I remember that it’s miles, and I’m appropriately impressed.

  • @toastnjam7384
    @toastnjam7384 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I lived in LA and saw part of this race on Wilshire. The atmosphere in LA before, during and after the Olympics was incredible. When the city started to remove the street decorations people complained and so they left them up. It was like holding on to mementoes of a love affair. Eventually they became very tattered and were removed. I was a great time to live in LA.

  • @frankbullitt4556
    @frankbullitt4556 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was one great marathon

  • @wesleytwiggs7687
    @wesleytwiggs7687 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My family and I actually know joanie very well. We see her every February in Jacksonville for a race. She’s so cool.

    • @dimitar297
      @dimitar297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was there in Jacksonville too y'all had flapjacks at Denny's.

    • @wesleytwiggs7687
      @wesleytwiggs7687 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dimitar297 what are you talking about?

    • @dimitar297
      @dimitar297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wesleytwiggs7687 maybe you don't remember a couple years ago this is Sharon.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dimitar297 Every comment you made here seems "odd." You are odd.

    • @hellogoodbye4061
      @hellogoodbye4061 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Joan spoke before our runner's group in New Hampshire and even ran with us beforehand. One of the most humble and kind-hearted and down to earth individuals you'll ever come to know. Her love, not only the sport of track and distance running, but for running in and of itself knows no bounds.

  • @insertnamehere5809
    @insertnamehere5809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I only remember this race for Gabby Andersen Schiess from Switzerland who was at near death when she staggered over the line due to severe heat exhaustion and dehydration

    • @bradroberts7964
      @bradroberts7964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Being in the coliseum where the marathon finished, I definitely remember that but couldn't remember her name. It was a scary situation.

  • @AffectionateAstroStation-lx5is
    @AffectionateAstroStation-lx5is หลายเดือนก่อน

    John Tracey from Ireland finished second in the mens Olympic marathon. It was his first ever Marathon.

  • @voice_from_pizza
    @voice_from_pizza 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome.

  • @buddhaboy-
    @buddhaboy- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Peter benoit, joans brother was a cross country ski coach in my region-a real sweet guy😇

  • @payrysdoscs4903
    @payrysdoscs4903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Benoit's aggressive pace reminds me a bit of Daniel do Nascimiento at last year's NYC Marathon

    • @lordaries5498
      @lordaries5498 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same approach, different outcomes. Lol

    • @mkdesu
      @mkdesu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The pace just keeps getting faster

    • @payrysdoscs4903
      @payrysdoscs4903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lordaries5498 true

  • @OpBlueStripes
    @OpBlueStripes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff!
    Out of curiosity, Rosa Mota, 65 yo, has just beaten the W65 half marathon world record last Sunday, with 1:26:05!

  • @donaldgraham6414
    @donaldgraham6414 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joan Benoit was actually injured over the year or so leading up to the 1984 Olympics, and had to do much of her training on a stationary bike instead of running so as not to aggravate that injury. She really smoked that bike.
    She is still running sub 3 hour marathons today. A legend of the sport.

  • @mikefoley5792
    @mikefoley5792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The story I heard back in Maine was that she started running to strengthen a leg that had been broken while skiing.

  • @VicalTheFox
    @VicalTheFox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OH MY GOD SO YOU ARE STILL ALIVE HOLY SHIT

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a low-class comment.

  • @skippyho8
    @skippyho8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The inclusion of women’s marathon had such a powerful impact globally big and small….Slyvia Ruegger placed 7th at the ‘84 marathon, you can catch her red jersey and her signature gait in the lead pack….Slyvia went on to found the charity Start2Finish, a run to read program for at risk youth….sadly Sylvia passed away in 2019 but her legacy remains and the legacy of all the women that ran in that milestone marathon in LA….

    • @skippyho8
      @skippyho8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I should add: Slyvia (CAN) held the Canadian marathon record for 28 years (2:28) until it was broken in 2013. The top 10 women of that ‘84 race are legendary…..

  • @woopityscoop2863
    @woopityscoop2863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nah showing up to the olympic trials at 50 is out of control. Let alone running a 2:49

  • @jasiahrainer1366
    @jasiahrainer1366 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Make a Connar Mantz video please

  • @Sargebri
    @Sargebri 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A small correction, the marathon started at Santa Monica College and finished at the Coliseum.

  • @splashmt99
    @splashmt99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All other things being equal, humid air is less dense than non-humid air. So the high humidity helped the race conditions. I know its counter intuitive, but its true.

  • @spikeisking007
    @spikeisking007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't see the racing videos with big opaque pages of stats stuck over them.

  • @matts8012
    @matts8012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She finished that marathon and looked like she ran 25.2 miles fewer than she actually did.

  • @08A06A1975
    @08A06A1975 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    É pena que o autor só refira a Rosa Mota no final, ela que tinha ganho à Waitz, Kristiansen e outras nos Europeus de 1982, em Atenas. Lembro-me de ter assistido a toda a corrida, foi uma grande corrida, especialmente naquelas condições. Lembro-me dos comentadores da RTP ficarem espantados com a Benoit ter-se lançado para a frente tão cedo na corrida. Lembro-me também da chegada da corredora Suíça. Uma palavra à grande Rosa, que acabou de estabelecer o Record Mundial da Meia Maratona para Veteranas. Inacreditável!

  • @Sargebri
    @Sargebri 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In 1988 they added the 10,000 meters and in 1996 they replaced the 3,000 with the 5,000.

  • @paulojrneto
    @paulojrneto 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:05 Katrin Dörre didn't compete at the 1984 Olympic marathon because she was from East Germany who boycotted the LA Olympics (She would win bronze in 1988 and finish fourth in 1996)

  • @frothinggrom9170
    @frothinggrom9170 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Runnerboi

  • @mkdesu
    @mkdesu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. a 3 hour marathon at age like 50 65 was it? god damn

  • @annoyingbstard9407
    @annoyingbstard9407 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened then?

  • @hadrianaugustus5712
    @hadrianaugustus5712 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1984 was different

  • @zavtparticles6828
    @zavtparticles6828 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A shame the boston marathon doesnt count for records. Why exactly is that? Cause of all the hills?

    • @daviddunn3179
      @daviddunn3179 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because it’s a point to point race . The rule is the start and finish can’t be more than 50% of the race distance apart . At Boston the runners could potentially have a tailwind almost the whole way like they did in 2011.
      The other factor is the drop in elevation . Boston has an elevation drop of 140 meters or 3.33 meters per kilometer . The rule is the elevation drop can’t exceed one meter per kilometer .

    • @zavtparticles6828
      @zavtparticles6828 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@daviddunn3179 sounds like a bunch of rules some upset old people made. IMO

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zavtparticles6828 This is a nasty and uneducated comment. The rules excluding the Boston Marathon from being eligible for world records makes it fair for all the other marathons - otherwise ONLY Boston would have world records due to its most-downhill course except for the hills near mile 20, and its usual tailwind pushing the runners. These rules are VALID.

  • @OtesOtesOtes
    @OtesOtesOtes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:08 the only coast that matters
    ok I just realized she was born in Maine...

  • @KevinGonzalez-vz7rz
    @KevinGonzalez-vz7rz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The commentator of this video got it wrong. The Olympic Marathon began at Santa Monica College and Finished at the Los Angeles Coliseum. It did not start and Finish on the same track.

  • @markabraham2367
    @markabraham2367 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine running 26 miles and then doing victory laps.

  • @mikenealon4042
    @mikenealon4042 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LA'84!

  • @clayton97330
    @clayton97330 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's not forget the end of the race when the woman whose name escapes me stumbled her way around the track, never giving up despite being on the verge of actual death.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That was Gabriela Anderson Schiess, who staggered around the track. Many of us women runners are angry with her for setting back the cause of women's running so badly with her helpless stagger, showing she was unprepared for the race and making women look weak and helpless. Men don't stagger like that.

    • @bradroberts7964
      @bradroberts7964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cathynewyork7918 Many runners, male and female have succumbed to the heat even if they are well trained. If I recall, Alberto Salazar pretty much collapsed after winning New York and had to be given IVs in the medical tent.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bradroberts7964 Alberto Salazar had that IV problem in Boston after his near-death all-out duel to the finish in the 1982 Boston Marathon with Dick Beardsley on an extremely hot day. An entire book has been written about that hot-weather duel between the two, "Duel in the Sun." That ruined Salazar's 'heat tolerance' for life - he had problems running on warm days for the rest of his running career. Gabriela should have trained in hot-weather conditions and hydrated better - instead of training up in the Idaho mountains where they have cool, mild summers.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bradroberts7964 I have run 29 marathons - I know when to slow down and drink more than usual if the weather is hot and humid.

  • @runfilmsleep
    @runfilmsleep หลายเดือนก่อน

    imagine running a sub-2:30 marathon with no pebax, carbon, gels etc..😤😤

  • @TrashDino357
    @TrashDino357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why did boston marathon not count.

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Boston marathon is a downhill point to point race. Olympic marathon is a loop

  • @thedefectivememe
    @thedefectivememe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Swag

  • @moseschitalu3665
    @moseschitalu3665 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Am a male twice her junior and a 60 year old grand ma is faster than me. I feel so useless 😔

  • @cathynewyork7918
    @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WRONG! You said they were finishing "on the same track they started on" - but that is WRONG. They started on the track at Santa Monica College in the City of Santa Monica and ran across town to finish on the track at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum in the City of Los Angeles. I was a volunteer course marshal at the Olympic Marathon.

  • @TheMarman57
    @TheMarman57 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "To say that the chasing pack was not making up any ground would be DISINGENUOUS"!! - lacking sincerity!! Whatever happened to the mastery of the English language?

  • @yogibear6363
    @yogibear6363 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No Gabriela? Her finish was as iconic as Joanie's.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gabriela's finish set back the cause of women's running. It reinforced the feelings of many that women are not strong enough to run a marathon, since men don't stagger to the finish like that.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gabriela should NOT be praised for not having properly trained and prepared for a hot weather race.

    • @Draddar
      @Draddar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cathynewyork7918What is your problem with her? You respond to every comment mentioning her here. For me that is the most iconic scene from 84 marathon, not the winner. And very inspirational to this day.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Draddar That is part of the problem - that you and so many others remember Gabriela, and NOT the winner. Clearly Joanie, the winner, did a MUCH better job at training and preparing to run in a hot-weather marathon, so JOANIE should get the fame, not the "failed" runner. I was an official course marshal that day - I was there in person. My other problem with Gabriela is that - after all the legal work that Katharine Switzer and Nina Kusckik and others did to convince the Olympic Committee that women are strong enough to run a marathon and get that first marathon admitted to the Olympics, then Gabriela came along, staggering death-like, and reinforcing the stereotypes that women were not strong enough to run marathons. It "damaged" our cause that we women can do marathons. Plus it took attention away from Joanie who deserved the attention for her tough win. Not fair.

    • @Draddar
      @Draddar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cathynewyork7918 I sense heavy American bias there and personal involvement. I can see how it might have been a setback for women at the time (probably more in the US than elsewhere) although the basic prejudice was already there and people only used it as an excuse to confirm their view. But looking back now it's a very inspirational moment in sports history.
      Without maybe knowing the full details I disagree on a lot of points. For starters just because she had a rough time doesn't mean she didn't train enough. Also it was a completely different time both in terms of marathon distance training, number and quality of competitors and heat training specifically which is kind of new even today. You can see plenty of elites (men and women) nowadays that completely shut down in a race and we've made several giant steps forward in training since 84. Maybe they have a bad day, illness, missing fuel, troubles during preparation, carried away in race and probably a dozen more possible reasons. Undertraining is the last thing I'd consider.

  • @idkanaccountname
    @idkanaccountname 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ben-oyt or Ben-wah?

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The first one. It's how she says it herself.

  • @walkerwilson9222
    @walkerwilson9222 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    jesus. the fact that they held marathons on a track must have been the most mentally challenging part for those athletes. over lapping over and over 100 times must have felt like a fever dream

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did NOT run the marathon on the track - they started on one track, ran the streets, and then finished on another track. Pay attention.

  • @buddhaboy-
    @buddhaboy- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joan benoit✌️

  • @Joshy-
    @Joshy- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    sorry but i hate how you pronounce benoit. it's a french last name, pronounced kinda like ben-wah
    awesome video as always tho

    • @RunnerBoi
      @RunnerBoi  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I thought that too until I heard her pronounce her own name on a 2019 video (masterclass sponsor vid). I think she just prefers to pronounce it that way, so I used that instead of the traditional French one.

    • @Joshy-
      @Joshy- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RunnerBoiah fair enough 👍

    • @leokashian8846
      @leokashian8846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Although Maine has many french families and names because of Quebec being so close, many have Anglesized the pronounciations.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joan herself pronounces her own name that way, so their family is using an American version. Besides, her married name is Samuelson, so she probably uses that in non-running life.

  • @elvesorc
    @elvesorc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to show km in subtitle for non american viewers. Otherwise the video cannot be interesting.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why can't the video be interesting for non American viewers? And spell "American" with a capital "A" - show us respect.

  • @julienroberts128
    @julienroberts128 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My guy, you need to learn how to pronounce benoits name properly

    • @styx85
      @styx85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My guy, take your own advice. That's how she pronounces it.

    • @cathynewyork7918
      @cathynewyork7918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joan Benoit pronounces her name the way he says it.

  • @paulthomson2288
    @paulthomson2288 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    boring