Goes to show it doesn’t matter where you get your sounds from, it comes down to how the vision is put together. The mixing is so good you wouldn’t think it was from a free vst. Even if we had all the same drums and plugins we couldn’t make what they did, because that’s not the point. They had a vision and then brought it to life. 👏🏽
Of course, anyone could play Mozart today. But Mozart was the genius who had the idea of his music. Many people miss that point if you talk about making music on the computer for example "Oh isnt that easy? You just do everything with mouse and keyboard and then you have a song" I let a friend do that once, he made some hot garbage like Ive never heard before, because he has no ideas for any original music
WOW! last thing i expected to see was a @RedMeansRecording comment here(huge fan!)! I do concur though this video is pretty rad. I've always understood the music and time composition behind it, but I've never played with synths. Cool to see it slowly put together. Love the drum edits on your ver though 8)
Most of the drums they use were given to them by soulwax. They talk about it in the documentary “part of the weekend never dies”. Damn fine drums they are.
@@TachyBunkerIt’s specifically the drums from “NY Excuse” that they were given in order to do the remix (+ then lots of their own Linndrum noises on top), so, like, you probably don’t have the stems like Justice do but if you have a copy of the song you can probably work something out
did you rename each of the presets? i'm wondering if you do. because i just got the rave generator 3 but couldn't find the same ones as you used. are there a specific preset floating in the web rn? ;__;
just so you know, these samples are all classic rave samples that have been used in numerous songs before that vst even existed. not to mention that justice has said that they only use garageband to produce.
Everything after Cross has been forgettable, with the exception of the "Planisphere" track. They undoubtedly captured lightning in a bottle with the first record but they did not have lasting appeal
Because they invented a new form of microsamping and mixed it with disco. They then abandoned microsampling and filtered disco through different sounds aesthetics to make each record. Prog rock, techno, etc. planisphere and cross all were about random microsamples being morphed into disco tracks. They need to microsample again.
@@mood1676 Justice didn't invent anything. Akufen's "Deck The House" was released in 2002. Minimal / Tech House had been around at least a decade when Cross was released. Even Daft Punk's "Face to Face" off Discovery (2001) mixes microsamples of disco records with a standard house (i.e. post-disco) beat. If anything Justice popularized the overcompressed bleeding VU meter "rock" aesthetic in house, aka the Ed Banger sound, which again previous Ed Banger artists had already done before Cross was released.
@@boharcrump6312 those are not really examples if microsampling, just sampling stabs. Microsampling is meant to carry no context with the stab. Isolating a single texture or note and seamlessly incorporate it. These are all examples of sampling with quick stabs that have a jagged texture and show the seams of the sampling very obviously. Hiphop and house have always done this, so maybe microsampling is the wrong word. Call it what you want but justice had a unique sound in the way they sampled and filtered that technique into disco. They abandoned sampling in favor of instruments and I lost some interest. But you are wild to say cross was uninventive. You really have no argument for that.
@@mood1676 Can you give a specific example from Cross of what you're defining as microsampling? Justice added a lot of distortion ("Waters of Nazareth", "One Minute to Midnight"), but otherwise it's still electro-house, around 120bpm, with baroque / disco chord progressions. And a sample is a sample regardless of the length. Justice and Daft Punk (and many others) used short (
Not really tbh, the sampling on their first album is extremely impressive. This song probably came about as a joke or a challenge and they just liked it enough
@@Viper-dz2kw i wouldn't say extremely impressive but it was alright and shit sounded cool. funny how now they're way more pretentious but make lower effort music
@@cesarlopez9995 Cesar come on. there are so many artists whose newer stuff is my favourite. what even is this argument, “you can say this with ANY ARTIST”
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Goes to show it doesn’t matter where you get your sounds from, it comes down to how the vision is put together. The mixing is so good you wouldn’t think it was from a free vst. Even if we had all the same drums and plugins we couldn’t make what they did, because that’s not the point. They had a vision and then brought it to life. 👏🏽
yes, awesome!
Of course, anyone could play Mozart today. But Mozart was the genius who had the idea of his music. Many people miss that point if you talk about making music on the computer for example "Oh isnt that easy? You just do everything with mouse and keyboard and then you have a song" I let a friend do that once, he made some hot garbage like Ive never heard before, because he has no ideas for any original music
Neat
Omg, big fan of your music! Thanks.
WOW! last thing i expected to see was a @RedMeansRecording comment here(huge fan!)! I do concur though this video is pretty rad. I've always understood the music and time composition behind it, but I've never played with synths. Cool to see it slowly put together. Love the drum edits on your ver though 8)
When I heard this I knew it mainly used rave samples ahaha - if you ask me the drum kit even sounds like early daft punk!
Most of the drums they use were given to them by soulwax. They talk about it in the documentary “part of the weekend never dies”. Damn fine drums they are.
@@d0nn13m0n0 is there some way we could get it?
its probably the linn hi hats they used on the song, since daft punk really liked using the linndrum on their early tracks
@@andynexusfeio youre probably right, does sound a lot like some processed linndrum samples
@@TachyBunkerIt’s specifically the drums from “NY Excuse” that they were given in order to do the remix (+ then lots of their own Linndrum noises on top), so, like, you probably don’t have the stems like Justice do but if you have a copy of the song you can probably work something out
Aweso mebreakdown, very close to the original. Generator is my favorite track on this album, feels like a spirtual successor to Stress
Wrong, Generator is the spiritual successor of Genesis. Incognito is the successor of Stress
gesaffelstein type beat
Now we know why they really called that song "Generator"... It's written on the plugin's name 😆
I think you missed the white noise.
But you did amazing!
Its not about the tools but how you use them 👏
ravestabs & hoover bass
hell yeah
hella impressive, amazing discovery. good shit
0:21 bbbbb-baaad to the bone
Nice work.
Where’d the visuals at the end come from?
One Night/All Night video
was playing around with that vst few weeks ago and noticed the same sounds lmao
yuo wrong 🤦♂️🤬👎
Holy shit i can’t believe it. I’ve used rave generator for fun in the past plenty
Getting some Dust Brothers Fight Club vibes on this. Awesome.
Isn’t it taken from Brain Crash by Hardsequencer which predates these VSTs?
It’s not the gear that matters. Do you get it now?
Freakin awesome!
well done!!
Dude, hell yeah.
Really really good!
Absolument.
did you rename each of the presets? i'm wondering if you do. because i just got the rave generator 3 but couldn't find the same ones as you used. are there a specific preset floating in the web rn? ;__;
just so you know, these samples are all classic rave samples that have been used in numerous songs before that vst even existed. not to mention that justice has said that they only use garageband to produce.
Thanks for the info, but I, ahem, believe everybody here know that.
I'm pretty sure they only used GarageBand for Cross
@@jimbotron70 tbh i never take musical knowledge for granted online anymore. i just assume that people dont know history of music at all
bop
Sick asf
You are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo precious mate.!!!
crazy !
Hey, what drum samples did you use especially hihat samples? Thanks alot in advance & great find! :)
tr-707
Прикольно. Что-то в этом есть. Не понял при чем тут Джастис. Но не важно)
nooo way. good catch!
didn't know you could load vst's into excel
bruh, it's ableton
yea I need the Coachella version
shoutout dylan tallchief
Ok this is cool
🔥
Mate what drum samples you used? Sounds really good!
Mostly stock sample 707 909 to be more precise.
Well done son
great job
I also heard my sounds from the 'Trigger' sample pack in this track. Like the noise effects in the break in the background as well as in the elements.
nah
nah
you have 200 subs man
Reminds me of Skrillex - Bug Hunt
Sort of reminds of Mentasm by second phase
The main stab is definitely taken directly from there.
Neat. Not only do the whole track has been made with only one plugin. Also with ONE MAIN PRESET. ahahahahah
Their synths are for sale 😂
Now you go make something cool. Use presets. Use coconuts. Make something cool. I dare you.
Mozart only used one preset of his piano vst to make most of his bangers !
@@Steolepandaxiongmao exactly! :D
Rave Generator best vst ever!
...should have used version 3 😁
🎩
Drum kit??
sick shit
Mr.Oizo
I wish this VST worked on Mac. Someone who knows coding pleeeease fix it 😢
forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=249359
This might be helpful
Also try newfangledaudio pendulate
Promo>SM 💕
Everything after Cross has been forgettable, with the exception of the "Planisphere" track. They undoubtedly captured lightning in a bottle with the first record but they did not have lasting appeal
Because they invented a new form of microsamping and mixed it with disco. They then abandoned microsampling and filtered disco through different sounds aesthetics to make each record. Prog rock, techno, etc. planisphere and cross all were about random microsamples being morphed into disco tracks. They need to microsample again.
They didn’t invent it at all, even Seb on EdBanger had that style before them (Ross Ross Ross and more) and many french house guys before that too
@@mood1676 Justice didn't invent anything. Akufen's "Deck The House" was released in 2002. Minimal / Tech House had been around at least a decade when Cross was released. Even Daft Punk's "Face to Face" off Discovery (2001) mixes microsamples of disco records with a standard house (i.e. post-disco) beat. If anything Justice popularized the overcompressed bleeding VU meter "rock" aesthetic in house, aka the Ed Banger sound, which again previous Ed Banger artists had already done before Cross was released.
@@boharcrump6312 those are not really examples if microsampling, just sampling stabs. Microsampling is meant to carry no context with the stab. Isolating a single texture or note and seamlessly incorporate it. These are all examples of sampling with quick stabs that have a jagged texture and show the seams of the sampling very obviously. Hiphop and house have always done this, so maybe microsampling is the wrong word. Call it what you want but justice had a unique sound in the way they sampled and filtered that technique into disco. They abandoned sampling in favor of instruments and I lost some interest. But you are wild to say cross was uninventive. You really have no argument for that.
@@mood1676 Can you give a specific example from Cross of what you're defining as microsampling? Justice added a lot of distortion ("Waters of Nazareth", "One Minute to Midnight"), but otherwise it's still electro-house, around 120bpm, with baroque / disco chord progressions. And a sample is a sample regardless of the length. Justice and Daft Punk (and many others) used short (
get a new keyboard
No
Renoise mon ami c’est mieux
Do you think Justice used a tracker for the micro sampling techniques in the Cross album ?
The shittiest song on the album with the shittiest music video used a shitty VST and was made lazily! Who wouldve thunk
Okay!
i knew justice were corny as shit lol
Not really tbh, the sampling on their first album is extremely impressive. This song probably came about as a joke or a challenge and they just liked it enough
@@Viper-dz2kw i wouldn't say extremely impressive but it was alright and shit sounded cool. funny how now they're way more pretentious but make lower effort music
@@mastersoftodayYou can say that with any artist or group, fans will always prefer their older work over anything new
@@cesarlopez9995 Cesar come on. there are so many artists whose newer stuff is my favourite. what even is this argument, “you can say this with ANY ARTIST”
@@mastersoftoday So you don't agree doesn't mean what I said isn't true. Prove me wrong
I like vsts but the song sucks