The oldest portrait in the British Museum (probably) | Curator's Corner S2 Ep 1

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  • Over many years, Curator Alexandra Fletcher has formed a particularly strong bond with one of the… older people in the British Museum. In fact, she was one of the first to see his face in over 9,500 years. The Jericho Skull is arguably the oldest portrait in the British Museum - a human skull from the ancient city of Jericho which had plaster applied to it to form a type of early facial reconstruction.
    The Jericho Skull is fascinating to look at, but since being discovered in 1953, archaeologists weren’t able to find out much more about this man - until now. Using CT scanning, 3D printing and facial reconstruction, Alexandra and her team have finally been able to reveal the man behind the plaster.
    Find out more in Room 3 until 19 February 2017:
    The Asahi Shimbun Displays
    Creating an ancestor: the Jericho Skull
    15 December 2016 - 19 February 2017
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ความคิดเห็น • 245

  • @jodeg205
    @jodeg205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    I like how the lady talks about the skull as an individual. Priceless

    • @tauceti8341
      @tauceti8341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So respectful.
      I wish one day my skull to be picked up and coveted like this

    • @SB-uk5wx
      @SB-uk5wx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But this is an individual. This is a real man. The piece is made from his actual skull which was found at his burial site. The sculpted clay is just sitting on top

    • @SweetTodd
      @SweetTodd ปีที่แล้ว

      She's not wrong though.

    • @keis5150
      @keis5150 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it sounds like she's getting choked up. i'd get a bit emotional, too... not only was this skull a person, they're a person who lived and died thousands of years ago. we get to hear part of his story, peek into his culture, and get a glimpse of what he might've looked like, partly because of her. she's one of the few people who can help him do that. just amazing

  • @Trathaal
    @Trathaal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Being able to see the finger impressions in the clay plug is so awesome! Somehow humanises the skull even more

    • @tauceti8341
      @tauceti8341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ 3:20
      This gave me MAD chills

  • @scottgoodman4776
    @scottgoodman4776 6 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Thank you for these presentations. I am poor and unable to travel to London to see this material. Your presentations are much more interesting than books. I am so glad I found your channel. If I watch one a day, I feel enriched. Although I live in the first world, without funds to travel, life can seem poorer. You've given me a gift and I thank you.

    • @dianehall2248
      @dianehall2248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Me too. I would love to visit the British Museum one day.

    • @Tamara-th2ri
      @Tamara-th2ri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @scott goodman I don’t know if you’ll ever read this but i’d like to really thank you, i went 4 times in London and went twice in the museum, one was with school so i had to hurry and didn’t had the chance to really see what i wanted and the second time with my parents, sadly the museum was shutting because it was late. But the next time i’ll be there i’ll think about you and about those who just wish to be there just one day and how lucky i am to be in this beautiful museum, i’ll take a full day just for visiting and enjoy it for those who sadly can’t go. So i wanted to thank you for making me realize how these little things matters and how life (past and present) is precious, i truly hope with all my heart that one day you’ll be able to see this wonderful place! So thank you scott, wish you the best 🙂

    • @scottgoodman8993
      @scottgoodman8993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Tamara-th2ri Thank you for your kind best wishes. I just now, July 2020, saw your post and feel richer for having read it. I am able to get out and about my local state, Ohio, but distant travel is too costly. I thank God I still have my health and hope you shall be able to continue to visit exotic museums. God bless you.

  • @NeonsStyleHD
    @NeonsStyleHD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    More Curators Corner please. It's the best part of the channel.

    • @britishmuseum
      @britishmuseum  7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      We're currently finishing off filming season two. Expect new episodes every other Monday

    • @aspektx
      @aspektx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      NeonsStyle that's so good to hear. I'll never be able to visit, but these small peeks into the corners of your collection are wonderful.

    • @RadagonTheRed
      @RadagonTheRed 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apostrophe please.

  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm envious of the bliss she feels towards her gig. This is awesome

  • @ingeborg-anne
    @ingeborg-anne 7 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    This is beyond fascinating! I had no idea these even existed.

    • @redrock1963
      @redrock1963 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ingeborg Anne Rakvåg
      -
      Has an interest in history/science - check.
      Is very attractive - check.

  • @saraforman5387
    @saraforman5387 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This series is such a treat! I teach History and Social Studies and I take every opportunity to share these videos with students!

  • @idleonlooker1078
    @idleonlooker1078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Surely this cannot be?? The oldest portrait - and most valuable treasure - of the BM is Dr Irving Finkel!! 😊👍

    • @dancingwithnature5303
      @dancingwithnature5303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      👏 Obviously, you're absolutely right!!! 👍

    • @valsptsd814
      @valsptsd814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Idle Onlooker rumor has it, the portrait is of Mr. Finkel’s father. 😁

    • @juandavidrestrepoduran6007
      @juandavidrestrepoduran6007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@valsptsd814 back then we hadn’t invented portraits

    • @ellenmarch3095
      @ellenmarch3095 ปีที่แล้ว

      Underrated. 😂

  • @Noutelus
    @Noutelus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Have they ever tested this facial reconstruction method on a present day skull where they can compare it with photographs afterwards?

    • @Rabbithole8
      @Rabbithole8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Really?

    • @dannydano8072
      @dannydano8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yes. This reconstruction method has been used to, for example, identify unknown remains from supposed crime victims which have been left in the wild. The results of the reconstruction, when published in the papers, have brought forth an identification, a sort of "Do you recognize this person?". This identity then will be compared to known photos and, when possible, DNA for confirmation.

    • @justjet175
      @justjet175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yes. Forensic artists that do facial reconstruction practice for many years with skulls and then are shown the photo after. It's a critical part of their learning.

  • @Palaeogeobicho
    @Palaeogeobicho 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    another great video! Thanks BM! The Curator's Corner is definitely my favorite series. Hearing passionate people talking about their research is always great :) More please! :)

  • @Hypatia4242
    @Hypatia4242 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Do they know what else he was buried with that might indicate his importance? Weapons for a warrior, etc. (Also, the curator has a lovely voice.)

    • @ladyraven3418
      @ladyraven3418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love your name! A name worth remembering, indeed.

    • @anniesearle6181
      @anniesearle6181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      These skulls are normally separateed from the bodies and buried in the floor in the house (just the head) and this was done rather regularly perhaps as a part of ancestor worship. Jericho has been inhabited for so long that most of the houses from these periods have been destroyed/looted which is why there are so few of them

  • @sallydogood6169
    @sallydogood6169 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are such a treat! So interesting and informative. Great work! It's obvious you love your work and your enthusiasm makes your videos that much more awesome! Thank you

  • @sandracasey6794
    @sandracasey6794 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the Curator's Corners. Thank you.

  • @hscollier
    @hscollier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating topic, and very well presented. Thank you!

  • @chrisperry7963
    @chrisperry7963 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much, this was fascinating!

  • @thinderellaedwards1365
    @thinderellaedwards1365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The facial reconstructions are so fascinating.

  • @Spiegelgeist
    @Spiegelgeist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really cool and interesting! Thank you for the great video!

  • @briangarrow448
    @briangarrow448 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I think I just fell in love. What a delightful presenter. Fascinating video with a charming and talented expert.

  • @anthonyandrew3032
    @anthonyandrew3032 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    all these guys are so compelling ,and dedicated

  • @semperfidelis2970
    @semperfidelis2970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I thrive on watching things like this.
    It's what I imagine that diamonds and fame are to a materialistic person.

  • @Tig3rbutts
    @Tig3rbutts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how enthusiastic each curator is on this show :> These little tidbits are so wonderful!!

  • @mastersadvocate
    @mastersadvocate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed the Curator's Corner very much! The Jericho skull is fascinating! Imagine it being 9,500 years old!!! Those people were the ones that lived in Jericho long before the Hebrews, or even Abraham, came to that country! WOW! ~Janet in Canada

  • @annettefournier9655
    @annettefournier9655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remarkable. The plaster portrait and the reconstruction with technology and artist are very similar. I love curators corner 💙

  • @crittert7828
    @crittert7828 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Extremely interesting. I hope to catch the podcast. Thank you🎈

    • @britishmuseum
      @britishmuseum  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We hope you do! It's live, so just look for "The British Museum podcast" with the podcast app of your choice

  • @SamFreelancePolice
    @SamFreelancePolice 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This series is one of the best things on youtube

  • @anarey-oktay2683
    @anarey-oktay2683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing!

  • @kimworkman2425
    @kimworkman2425 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work

  • @musxidntty
    @musxidntty 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome vid!

  • @MrLarryLicious
    @MrLarryLicious ปีที่แล้ว

    My god what a magnificent piece.

  • @davidmolloy126
    @davidmolloy126 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks very much Alexandra, that was fascinating and the first time I have seen a plastered skull. ❤🇬🇧

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this. I didn't know this was even a thing that people did - with the plaster across and the shells for eyes - absolutely fascinating. If only we could have just a little bit of time with the people way back when to ask them a few questions about why.

  • @kwood7582
    @kwood7582 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had no idea that these even existed! this is so amazing!

    • @undertoe3730
      @undertoe3730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where have you been???

  • @majamiljevic-ajic3378
    @majamiljevic-ajic3378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great! It will be of good use for my presentation on Mortuary practice in Near East during PPNB. Thank you!

  • @Manwalkerinpark
    @Manwalkerinpark 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is making me consider a trip to the Museum. What a short window for such an intriguing artifact.

  • @michaelwatson113
    @michaelwatson113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel and this episode is another reason that I do not bother with television. Thank you

  • @jackpullen3820
    @jackpullen3820 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    To be a fly on the wall of that Museum...

  • @190galdino
    @190galdino 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing!

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love a reconstruction like this ... fascinating ...

  • @christineingram55
    @christineingram55 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s nice when you can put a face to the person .I know in this case the plaster gave a crude portraits of him ,but the one your team did brought him back to life.I find that amazing.I wonder too if they were leader or important people of the area and that’s why they were treated like this?, I have never heard of this being done before.I have heard of skulls being covered with gold,family members being cleaned every year and celebrated and other strange things in the past ,but not this.Fascinating though.Thank you for the interesting video

  • @dianehall2248
    @dianehall2248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is extremely cool.

  • @kentuckylady2990
    @kentuckylady2990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing

  • @ND360
    @ND360 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing! This is a good use of technology

  • @rbitrary
    @rbitrary 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god this is so cool!!!

  • @failureblanket8559
    @failureblanket8559 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was going to go to bed but instead found this wonderful channel.

  • @rochelleb973
    @rochelleb973 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wow, amazing

  • @desireedoan9267
    @desireedoan9267 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing 👌

  • @kuntybabushka4326
    @kuntybabushka4326 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its been my life's wish to visit the british museum, but sadly will never see it :(

    • @Aj-tu4gv
      @Aj-tu4gv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why

    • @kekistanihelpdesk8508
      @kekistanihelpdesk8508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's stopping you? It's an amazing place. I take a train down to London Euston and a 10 minute walk. I don't even go anywhere else in London just spend the entire day in the museum.

    • @doredam8919
      @doredam8919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kekistanihelpdesk8508 Probably money. It would be lovely if people from all across the world could visit it, but some people can't afford to fly halfway across the world to visit a museum

  • @dorothysullivan9151
    @dorothysullivan9151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating.

  • @christineaygin6701
    @christineaygin6701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pat on the back who thought up this idea of sharing from the different museums , bringing history to our doorstep

  • @Esstan1
    @Esstan1 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fascinating! I had no idea The British museum had objects from old Jericho. That's so cool! I read about this culture in university, was this man a part of the interior of a house?
    I remember reading that the people of the culture kept parts of their ancestors in walls, floors, and other interior details inside their homes.

  • @veganman1961
    @veganman1961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating

  • @helenangus1675
    @helenangus1675 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is amazing.

  • @ciara7640
    @ciara7640 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Her voice is so young?? Like she sounds younger than she is????

    • @philmcdonald4778
      @philmcdonald4778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Enthusiasm does that.

    • @aiferapple1246
      @aiferapple1246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you look at her closely, she has a really young face. With make-up and hairdressing she would look amazing. Speaking purely as an artist

    • @andrewvanderpool5082
      @andrewvanderpool5082 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philmcdonald4778 so does getting molested at a young age

    • @ericschmuecker5573
      @ericschmuecker5573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Non-smoker voice?
      More like a Smoking Hottie!
      And I like the video. 😉

    • @idno8955
      @idno8955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      can dudes not see a woman and post cringy shit in the comments ty

  • @sugarnads
    @sugarnads 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @johnshoosmith
    @johnshoosmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are great! The staff...the whole bunch...totally engrossing presenters.

  • @Carducci1959
    @Carducci1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brava!

  • @jadetaylor9216
    @jadetaylor9216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait they discussed how this skull was created on horrible histories. Fantastic video and thank you for bringing back my childhood memories

  • @tortera
    @tortera ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @TheRedClaw42
    @TheRedClaw42 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Amazing video! How did the finger imprints on the dirt survive? we're they in some kind of a tomb on in the ground?

    • @GhostNighty
      @GhostNighty 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In Ancient Middle East people used to bury their dead relatives under the ground of their own houses and sometimes separated the head from the body and decorated it, to keep it as a memory of their relatives and ancestors, like in this case :)

    • @hobmoor2042
      @hobmoor2042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As she said at the beginning, the skull was originally covered in plaster. So, the plaster would have covered the fingermarks and preserved them. Very interesting video.

  • @jakobraahauge7299
    @jakobraahauge7299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a full length feature on this skull! 😍 Sure Netflix would be helpful!

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb ปีที่แล้ว

    The facial reconstruction is my favorite part lol

  • @idontwannabeyouanymore4988
    @idontwannabeyouanymore4988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Am I the only who noticed how much this lady looks like Benedict Cumberbatch?

  • @TheRoon4660
    @TheRoon4660 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have always wondered how accurate this method is.

  • @erepsekahs
    @erepsekahs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Astonishing technology. It is a privilege that this is available to us.

    • @terrancenorris9992
      @terrancenorris9992 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neat perspective on the way you present your user name..😁

  • @shiddy.
    @shiddy. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good

  • @inessamaria2428
    @inessamaria2428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive

  • @sarahgray430
    @sarahgray430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's interesting that this portrait was constructed much like the way in which the subject's face was reconstructed, only they used the actual skull rather than a 3-D model. They used to do police reconstructions of murder victims in much the same way in the 1980s.

  • @jameshughdalton
    @jameshughdalton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was essentially a plasterd skull during my student days too

  • @IanZainea1990
    @IanZainea1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always wanted to see a scan of a living person's skull and then do the muscle by muscle recreation and see how close it is to the real person. (The artists doing the recreation wouldn't see the real person until after).

  • @tauceti8341
    @tauceti8341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:20 wow that's crazy and spooky.
    Just some random priest or individual carefully packing soil and clay into a skull for his finger indentations to be marked eternally.

  • @alicekeene7165
    @alicekeene7165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interested.

  • @dlbstl
    @dlbstl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you happen to have a nick-name for him? This was fascinating!

  • @jdshaman6448
    @jdshaman6448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Heidelbergensis portrait in flint. The whole of a heidelbergensis face. He looks proud. Also some nice silhouette profiles of Aechulian and Clactonian faces which are cast from sun orientated sundials. Amazing art from Heidelbergensis.

  • @phinox18
    @phinox18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you took a bone sample from the already broken portion of the skull, could you still get DNA from it? Would you be able to get more detail for his 3d rendition? Like eye and hair color?

    • @undertoe3730
      @undertoe3730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Teeth I think are more easily used for DNA.

  • @charlesyanni5195
    @charlesyanni5195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing! The way you bring back to life people who lived some 10,000 years ago. If you don't mind my asking, if it's only a skull, how do you know it was a man and not a woman?

  • @jacksonfolly
    @jacksonfolly 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah!

  • @Contact_Info
    @Contact_Info 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shes about to cry though, you're the right person for the job lady

  • @thebluemenace
    @thebluemenace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This thing will give me nightmares.

  • @erdbeerblume5237
    @erdbeerblume5237 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is even older now, approximately 6 years even 😱

  • @milkyway-nk4jz
    @milkyway-nk4jz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I would look so good if I traveled to the past!

  • @dinkledankle
    @dinkledankle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The rendering didn't include the pinched skull. Why not? May as well have just changed his whole head.

    • @eduardolarrymarinsilva76
      @eduardolarrymarinsilva76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was weird, something tells me they either had a very good reason for excluding it, or the feature wouldn't be visible with the skin and muscle. These people aren't the kind of persons that "half-ass" things.

  • @moaningpheromones
    @moaningpheromones 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never thought getting a heart was that cool but a heart from the BM?
    I WANT A HEART NOW ! ! ! ! ! !

  • @jazzboots8893
    @jazzboots8893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn't have watched this before bed. Fuckin' nightmare fuel.

  • @robertcochran7103
    @robertcochran7103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm very impressed by this presentation. Does the skull give you any idea of the person's day to day life? The 3-D print shows a male-looking face; how can you tell he person's gender? Do you know how the person died, and how old the person was at the time of death? Dr. Fletcher mentions the skull was found in a burial site with other individuals. Why were they buried together?

  • @RealUlrichLeland
    @RealUlrichLeland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    4:03 how do they know about that mole on his left cheek

    • @heatherw5833
      @heatherw5833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      From the clay, you can see a raised bit, they probably extrapolated from there.

  • @David-xy2fb
    @David-xy2fb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That voice!

  • @ahmedtalha5562
    @ahmedtalha5562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why when i search singa skull on the search bar it shows this video, are they connected somehow?

  • @petterzachrisson6500
    @petterzachrisson6500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @greasybeez
    @greasybeez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there any resources to learn more about human facial modeling on skulls? It's fascinating to think that this reconstruction could be so accurate and I'm curious to know more about this technology.

  • @OnBelayClimbOn
    @OnBelayClimbOn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did you give him a nickname? Something like Jericho Joe?

  • @vasp99
    @vasp99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that actual plaster or clay?

  • @newwavepop
    @newwavepop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    we also would have accepted "what is the creepiest portrait in the British Museum?"
    it is a really interesting artifact though.

  • @floraposteschild4184
    @floraposteschild4184 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dead person's family: gee..thanks. You shouldn't have.

  • @reresee
    @reresee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Singa Calvaria From Englo-Egyption Sudan (Sudan)?

  • @EvatheDiva00
    @EvatheDiva00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh my god please move it away from the edge of the table!! ahhhh!!!!

    • @Vidi
      @Vidi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So amusing a comment. I had the same thought. Then I reminded myself that Mrs. Fletcher is a professional. Of course she wouldn't knock it off the table accidentally, but I surely would! : )

  • @recurf7492
    @recurf7492 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is it so small

  • @katrussell6819
    @katrussell6819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the lower jaw found with the skull? Was DNA able to be extracted?

  • @lallyoisin
    @lallyoisin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All burried together, the seven! What are the chances! Have to change channel!

  • @c.mckenzie2155
    @c.mckenzie2155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The recreation of the skull does not show that it was bound or shape changed? What is up with that?

  • @winnifredforbes8712
    @winnifredforbes8712 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine studying one object for eight years!

    • @ghike30
      @ghike30 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and then telling us everything we need to know ,in less than five minutes , lol