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- A new PBS series by Ken Burns argues xenophobia, the Great Depression, incredulity toward the media, and State Department antisemitism combined to keep Jewish refugees out of America.
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Two-thirds of European Jews were killed by the Nazis during World War II in a systematic, relentless process that still exceeds our ability to comprehend its origins and consequences. The Final Solution, which was the Nazi plan to exterminate all European Jews, wasn't implemented until 1942, but Hitler's government had begun openly dehumanizing, harassing, and attacking Jews upon taking power nine years earlier.
Even when the Nazi death machine kicked into high gear, America kept its doors mostly closed to Jews, as filmmakers Ken Burns, Lynn Novick, and Sarah Botstein recount in The U.S. and the Holocaust, a new three-part documentary series on PBS.
Some lobbied to open the country to refugees in the run-up to war, but anti-immigration legislation, the economic devastation of the Depression, incredulity toward a press that had trafficked in false atrocity accounts during World War I, and deep-seated antisemitism, especially in Franklin Roosevelt's State Department, combined to thwart those efforts.
Reason talked with Burns and Novick about why a nation of immigrants remains so deeply ambivalent about newcomers and the lessons that 21st-century America should draw from our country's response in the lead-up to the Holocaust.
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Interview by Nick Gillespie; Edited by Regan Taylor and Adam Czarnecki
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Compare America and Albania. Albania was the only country occupied by Nazis that increased their Jewish population during the war. The local authorities refused to hand over the names of Jewish residents to the Nazis. When refugees arrived from across Europe, the local population got them to safety in their own homes throughout the countryside. They were concealed for months or years by adopting local names and being incorporated into host families. This experience laid the foundations for enduring bonds of friendship and family. In the entire war, only one family was discovered, and a total of 5 Jewish lives were lost. Albania is a majority Muslim multi-faith society, and practices the tradition of Besa, which is a code of honour where protection is granted to anyone who knocks on your door. Besa means keeping your promise, and not betraying or abandoning anyone. Albanians promised the Jews they would be protected, and so they were.
True
i wonder if this is true?
Horrendous comment section. I hope these internet corners don't reflect reality.
More propaganda. Because 80 years of it isn't enough
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When Ken Burns was asked about America's opinion of the Irish as a comparison to the Jews (as migrants) he rather brushed it off. So let's not forget that during the Potato Famine the thousands of Irish who were encouraged to migrate to the USA by the English were refused entry. It was Tammany Hall, the Boston Irish from earlier migrations who led the parade to refuse their entry. That is a huge story in itself and Ken Burns may want to look into it. Most of the later migrates as a result of the Potato Famine went on to Canada via the St. Lawrence River, landing in Quebec City and Montreal where many were quarantined and died of small pox both at sea and in quarantine. Small children became parentless and wandered the streets of these cities for months, some dying of starvation or freezing to death. Ken may want to read a book entitled, "The Great Hunger" as a starting point.
GMAFB! You’re no victim
Yeh bro, I’m Australian (but Irish ancestry on both sides). The famine was horrible, the persecution of our ancestors was horrible… the coffin ships etc. which is why I am more sensitive in regard to the holocaust. People should never forget about the potato Famine, Armenian Genocide and the Holocaust.
Father Charles Coughlin (Irish Catholic) was spreading Jew hatred for so long and eventually Irish Catholic activists teamed up with Jewish organisations in 39 and 40 to shut that bigot down. I am of that school, I hate seeing my Jewish brothers and sisters (in humanity) targeted and the story of Father Coughlin fading into oblivion is one of the great success stories in US culture at that time (because Irish anti-semitism was rampant back then, but barely seen in the US today). Irelands fierce anti-Zionism right now is based off tribalism alone, and although it pisses me off… that is their issue lol.. I seperate myself from that. I am a strong supporter of the Jewish state
@@washcaps71
Yes yes, victimhood is only reserved and valid for those who have been deemed as such by "certain people."
It’s not about how many people died where. Or children freezing or starving. Hate against the Jews has existed for thousands of years. This was intentional genocide of an entire race from an entire CONTINENT. Freezing babies? They shot mothers while they held their babies so that the bullet would go through the mother to the baby so that they can save ammunition. They gassed hundreds of people at a time by tricking them to think those were showers. Women men elderly children suffocating to death screaming on top of each other. They build special industrial ovens to cremate as many bodies as possible. They even supported their economy by using body parts of the dead for different products to support the war. They used skin to make lamp shades, they shrunk human heads to make paperweight…. I would tell you to go to the Holocaust museum in DC but not everybody can handle knowing the truth. Famines and plagues have unfortunately existed. It’s not human made but this is first time in history that the genocide was on the industrial scale. If Russia didn’t win that war which Hitler came very close to winning. The world would be ran by Nazis right now. Y’all just don’t know
@miss0petersburg
Wow, you swallowed every single piece of the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. Lampshades? Lol give me a break.
Open borders for Israel 🇮🇱 *for the refugees
You made a mistake it's is-real-hell..
Wait you mean the Palestinian ones or the Syrian ones?
@@FilipCordas the world's refugees Ukrainian Haitian Mexican Honduran Venezuelan and yes all of the above , ). .
@@FilipCordas Every single being on Earth has a right to move to Israel.
I wish America never got involved in WW2
Wrong then and wrong now and wrong ever since America has never been in a war for America ..
Us had little to do with the European victory they entered far too late.
@@timbourque5095 Right and right. The world would have looked 10000 times better
@@ericvulgate We supplied the Soviets and British constantly even before we joined the fighting
@@ericvulgate who cares about Europe ? I don’t and Americans shouldn’t. That’s why 500, 000 Americans died in WW2 is to barely help them win? Seriously? That only reassures my opinion
Look at all the right wing MAGAS in the comment section that only think history is accurate when it supports their views. It’s amazing to witness really and also delegitimizes their selective use of history and facts
We were better off with one guitar playing Robert Johnson. This one's transparency is only entertaining in it's vile stupidity.
What's the only caw you can milk for more than 7 decades and use it as a cover to do similar things to others and get away with it? Why don't we have a museum to remember the Polish and the Gypsies and mental health patients and people with deformities who suffered the same horrible atrocities?
Polish and Gyspies don't have the money to fund awareness for their plights. No cash, no coverage.
Because none of those people came out of WW2 with more wealth than they went into it with
There are multiple museums and projects to honor and remember the non-jewish victims of the holocaust. Don't let your anti-semitism cloud your vision. If an event as tragic as the planned extermination of your race and religion occured to your people, the generational trauma would last just as long.
It sounds like this documentary turns the lens towards the Western World and America's lack to prevent it, how the U.S. didn't fight WWII over the holocaust, and the Fascististic influence in America's attitude and opposition towards immigrants and minority groups (religious and political not just race). Maybe.
@@billbadson7598 Oh yeah because holocaust survivors their belongings, housing, families lifes werent stolen. Dripping antisemitism Bill.
I was just saying to myself “I haven’t seen a new Nazi documentary for like a whole 48 hours” thanks for keeping it going ReasonTV
See comment below! Nice try troll
CAN'T GET enough hate creation towards nazis... thank gd the meaning has expanded first to all germans, then to all white people.... now even black people who express normal social values are called nazi
@@jakemf1 don't you agree with has sarcasm? strange
Rumination don't help no one. If a guy named Shoemaker got his name from how his people made shoes, what is Ken Burn's story?
@@Noitisnt-ns7mo That's easy bubba. Burns is the anglicized (from the Angles, German) of the Gaelic name Ó Bróin, meaning "brook". Ken is short for Kenneth, again Anglicized from the Gaelic Ceannach, meaning "handsome". Not so fun fact bubba, Nazism didn't start in the 1930s. Check out the Irish Penal Laws of pre famine Ireland 16th and 17th centuries when British legislation prohibited education for the "natives", made it illegal to use their "mother tongue" Gaelic or use Gaelic names. Catholcs were also forbidden to practice their religion or own "any animal" valued at more than $1. No Catholic could enter the "professions". Answer your question bubba? You're welcome.
unsubbed. I'm done with having propaganda shilled to me
We'll miss you. Truly.
I see this on every video, but you people always come back.
God i wish people would stop milking tragedies 😴😴😴
Their playbook has one page.
Only when it stops earning them political brownie points. Chinese ethnic concentration camps? I sleeps. African genocides? I sleeps. Holocaust deniers? Ree.
as long as it keeps inspiring boomer evangelicals to spend their own children's inheritance on people who want to replace them, that teet is going to keep getting sucked
Do you think it could happen here?
Refugees don't get to pick and choose which country to take refuge in, otherwise they would be economic migrants. They must take the first available refuge offered by the nearest country. So don't find fault with America that is a whole ocean away if you aren't first finding fault with every country in the EU, Asia, or even Africa that refused to take them in. The wealth or success of a nation does not dictate the charity that is owed to anyone.
That's why all those countries suck.
Exactly, its not said nearly enough. Like everything they change the definitions of words that are troublesome to them and their agenda. They can only claim to be refugees in the first secure country neighboring their own.
Where do you suggest they went ? Europe was in chaos
It could be that Africa refused to take them in, because they were part of the slave trade.🧐
@@tonyatkinson2210 Tough shit, not our problem. They could have tried the 109 previous countries where it didnt work out the first time and try to patch things up.
My mom was always saying that the Holocaust was hosh posh. It happened so much it became an embarrassment for the family. So we had an intervention. We sat her down and had a Rabbi explain what his parents went through and then we watched Schindler's List with her. Now she can't believe it only happened once. - Anthony Jeselnik
Your grandmother was correct. It was complete pish posh. Of course you would not bother to look up any of the history on the matter, you would rather turn to a Hollywood movie.
Schlinder’s list was based on a FICTION novel too, go look it up. I just found out as well not that long ago. I hate to break it to you but to criticize one Jew does not mean someone hates all Jews. I am not aware of any mass antisemitism over the years at all in the USA and this whole push that America is somehow just a terrible racist, Jew hating country is absurd to say the least. I think many countries are misrepresented unfortunately and America is definitely one of them.
@@LordDevi It was a joke.
Schindler's list was based on a fictional novel BTW
@@remyllebeau77 humor is often lost on the humorless
How come the Jews have a special word for racist?
It's called democrat
Because they are the sovereign group in the West.
Plot Twist: The word "racist" was also created by them.
its all bullshit
Patton was right. We were fighting the wrong army in Europe
Ironic, isn't?
“Lets not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do, then… we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we’ve failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!” does not suggest that the US did not fight the wrong armies in Europe - just that they should have continued fighting against communist states.
@@acex222 I think you missed a few well known quotes about what he thought about the talmudic people he encountered in Europe
Why do you simp for totalitarianism?
@@hstetser5376 white americans have no ethnic identity. That's why the KKK failed.
Very interesting..but again we dance around the cause of the Holocaust and the lack of an American effort to help the victims.....Christianity!
100 Million people died in that War. Not just the 5 Million Jews
And ? It’s not a competition
@@tonyatkinson2210 it sure comes off like it is
@@tonyatkinson2210 Considering that the jews and their banks were a fifth column in Germany I feel deeper sympathies for the 95 million non jews who died at their expense.
Yeah, but those 5 million (actually closer to 7 million) weren't combatants. They were civilians who were systemically targeted AFTER the occupation and eliminated.
6M
250k tops
I got kicked out of 109 different schools because there was something wrong with the schools.
Truth
109+
Hmm … being the common element in your circumstance points to what about you that so many schools wouldn’t have in their midst. How could such a collective target you personally?
@@rickelpers1820 the wanted me to be a lampshade!
@@rickelpers1820 Did you lose 40 IQ points by trying to sound smart?
Straight up BS. Unfollowed
I don't understand why your types were attracted to Reason in the first place
Tommy Anomaly To dunk on its shitty premises, and make people like you mad.
@@tommyanomaly6193 Actually, "reason" is antithetical to them. They're more comfortable with myth.
Yes. Please, remind me again why I should be ashamed to be a white American.
You should not be ashamed of who you are. But we cannot ignore history or tear down statues to cover it up. History is brutal and full of many lessons.
No where in the video did it say that
@@juangalton999 Like the bolshevik decimation of Russia and her people.
Uh, no.
I'm tired of this shit on America grift.
Why are you here?
109 countries. I'd rather be speaking German
nooooooo you have to take unlimited numbers of immigrants forever because real freedom is not having roots anywhere
We fought the wrong enemy
Imagine thinking the Germans could have invaded America, or even wanted to. Nothing but Allied propaganda to justify the war.
@@wesleyswafford2462 It should be.
@@wesleyswafford2462 110 was Yemen last year.
And it is looking like Israel might be 111. The right wing and secular parties in the Knesset are getting really sick of the Orthodox's kvetching, especially during COVID.
That's funny, now go look into David Irving.
It’s funny how easily Irving refutes the primary accusations… but because the media screams and calls him names… his arguments never get countered. It’s almost like the whole thing was a guilt trip to gain sympathy for Israel… as they began stealing more land.
Why no one ever mentions the Holocaust of the Slavs
Holodomor
Can't make as much money off it.
I heard the jewish holodomor was worse than the jewish holocaust.
@@Matt23455 bro or maybe because the general public doesn’t give enough of a shit to research beyond the initial fact of 6 millions dead Jews.
11million people were killed in the systematic oppression by the Nazi regime. The Holocaust or final solution REFERS to the final answer to “the Jewish question” which is the anti semitism of Europe that has been around for centuries. The Holocaust is the Jewish killings, does not refer to the rest of the genocide.
Or the holocaust of the German military by Russia after the war. Or the holocaust of millions of Native Americans. One day may we rise above barbaric.
We welcomed The Frankfurt School and it’s really bearing fruit today!
I love how they leave that out and act like American antisemitism came out of a vacuum.
@@CaitSith592 If your son got kicked out of 109 schools is it still the school’s fault?
Most Jews are wonderful. You can’t judge em by the Frankfurt school
@@CaitSith592 it always happens suddenly for no reason at all with them
@@joevartanian4246 can and am
6 Brazilians or whatever
Just here for the comments
Real 😂😂😂
B.S.
Please explain why I am dying to know the truth!!!
remember Ford's book was called THE INTERNATIONAL JEW..... hardly all jews
History will repeat itself. They've overplayed their hand.
Yup! Lock Drump up
@@jakemf1 he's referring to the Dems . Trump is antifascist and that is why they are trying to imprison him every 6 months . Kid , you need to wake up from your coma
WTF?
@@tommyanomaly6193 all the signs are there . We're going to face another Holocaust but this one will be global . That's why governments are attacking the farmers now . Food shortages are happening
Just like the other 109 times.
I've never questioned the Holocaust before. Now the Ken Burns is doing a series on it I'm not so sure.
@@wesleyswafford2462 Thats actually really interesting, I thought I was an outlier for having to read Anne Frank' Diary twice in elementary school.
So let me get this right...you are getting bored with learning about a historical event that killed millions and millions of people...Jews and non Jews? Maybe this will help you- yes, 6M+ Jews were killed but, also, 3M+ Soviet prisoners, almost 2M Polish non Jews, people with disabilities, criminals, homosexuals, Sebs, Gypsies... History is important so it is not repeated. You may want to rethink your position on this.
@@phillyphilly5849
i·ro·ny1
noun
noun: irony
the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
As Brad said in Fast times in Ridgemont High said; Learn it, Know it, Live it.
Uckingfay Etardray.
@@phillyphilly5849 I just don't see how it's possible to commit mass genocide against everyone around you while also fighting a two-front war, call me crazy.
@@jarekkish5515 You are crazy.
Next doc on how Roosevelt helped Stalin pls and how mainstream newspapers of that time in the UK and the US ignored Soviet atrocities
Stalins atrocities are extremely overexaggerated. Most of it was made up by Nikita Khrushchev when he tried to purge the Stalin/Beria loyalists after taking power. If I remember correctly some 51% of ex SSSR people have a positive view of Stalin.
@@FilipCordas whose atrocities aren't "overexaggerated" then? Stalin was as worse as Hitler and he single handedly brought the entire Eastern Europe into famine and poverty i.e. under Soviet occupation, reason why many Eastern Europeans especially some East Germans and Ukrainians sympathise with Nazis even today just like some Jews sympathise with radical Zionists.
@@FilipCordas yeah the people of the USSR were definitely well informed about their governments actions...
@@indobalkanizer6557 I will not say anything about Hitler because everything is absolutely 100% true and nothing at all about him was war propaganda at all, even when it makes no sense, there is no evidence to support it or when there are multiple contradictory claims, it's all true 100%. But as to Stalin first of saying he deliberately created famines is ridicules, the Gulag system at its peak had less people in it then US has in prison today. Sure, living in Siberia isn't ease but using prisoners to colonize harsh places is nothing Stalin invented. When it comes to war crimes in WW2 SSSR committed them so did the US Britan France, Germany... It's war. I am no communist but making up stuff about that communism is evil is dishonest.
@@FilipCordas source: trust the Soviet propaganda broo... "Germany, US... Also committed war crimes", "I'm no Communist but don't show how mass killing ideology it really was in Soviet Russia and Maoist China" "it's all false and manipulated except facts abt Hitler's regime"
I’m so glad that TH-cam added the wiki link for “Holocaust” so I can read all about what Reason got “wrong”
The word Holocaust is what they call it when they burn a bunch of children alive.
SO, what did they get wrong?
@@Inquisitor6321 history ..
@@timbourque5095 can you bed a little more vague?
@@Inquisitor6321 the hole thing is a lie all a story that simple was all made up ? It's history ..
Dislike
Why was there so much anti-Semitism in the first place? What did the Jews do to get all that hate?
I never hear any explanation for that ever. Everyone just starts the story from the middle.
Because Jesus was Jewish.
Over 2000 years of them being expelled/executed in countries over 109 times for usury, blood libel (ritual blood letting and sacrifice of women and children), coin clipping, fraud, loan sharking, degenerate behavior, ect. ect. but it was baseless persecution for no reason they'll tell you.
Its BASELESS hate. Absolutely no reason at all. People behold the presence of the spark of light upon seeing a Jew and feel envy and rage at their divine beauty. Their minds just short circuit.
It started with Christianity, they considered Jews guilty of Jesus betrayal. Then every government needs enemy to create policies, for government campaigns, Jews were an easy target. They were part of European society but different not Christian’s. Now as antisemitism became a shameful thing, they created new enemy those are Muslims, refugees. They are the reason of all problems..
"We defeated the wrong enemy."
Yes. That's why the US govt is supporting Naghtzies in Ukraine. Thanks for being honest.
@andrion waser Yes. The US govt should have allied witb Naghtzy Germany. But its never too late. You can always support them in Ukraine. Which is exactly what you are doing.
I loved the part about wooden doors!
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The nazis documented and were unapologetic about the slaughter of Jews in Europe. You have to somehow explain where the 500,000 Jews living in Poland magically disappeared to (somehow getting sent to the ghetto or Auschwitz and then never coming out).
Why deny the Holocaust when the people you support documented in and actively supported to killing of the Jews? Why? Is it maybe because you’re a bit iffy on the whole genocide thing?
Don't forget the magical time traveling ball point pens! 🖊 🖊
Correct 🥺😱😰🤕😭😱
And the deathcoaster!
@Hey Hou Pretty sure that's not what he said schlomo.
We should close the border NOW.
And open Israel's borders to the entire African continent.
Great documentary. I appreciate how the creators provide insight into the female presence, on both sides of the war. 10 million Congolese Africans died at the hands of Belgium Leopold II - and still those lives are not humanized.
Two things:
1. History is complicated and it all depends on who is telling the story.
2, ALL governments lie and the bigger the government the bigger the LIE.
Cheers
Richard Breitman described the mitigating circumstances, as you say, that complicated an issue that wasn't entirely black and white in his book "FDR and The Jews."
Are governments lying about the holocaust? Or is that the one thing they get right?
Tell us the story about the Canaanites.
@@DarthVader1977 Don't hate me, just because I can read. There are "talking books" too, you know. Anyway, the comment was meant for Paul who comes across as intelligent, not particularly for you. You should go back to your favorite pastime of picking your nose.
@@Noitisnt-ns7mo Who holocausted' the Canaanites and stole their land?
Matters to whom?
we all know who
Time for a new set of lies
why don't you just go back to polishing your SS memorabilia OK
1% of the population, 13% of the Senate Overrepresented in government and the Federal Reserve with monopolies in movies music tv radio newspapers banking stock market gold diamonds etc
@Hey Hou just stating the facts.
@Hey Hou don't you have an illuminati
Baby sacrifice to go to?
Get good.
@@Noam_.Menashe be best
@@eugenesant9015 We already are. You proved it yourself.
(EDIT: the title of the video has now changed.)
I'm disappointed by the use of the word "Our" in the title. Ken and Lynn had no shameful response to the Holocaust, nor did Reason TV. I think it would be more appropriately titled, The Shameful Response to the Holocaust, or even better, name the specific people that had shameful responses, don't collectivise guilt, it's not reasonable.
Well put.
It's performative self-flagellation. So hot right now!
Yeah because you just can't handle dealing with the fact that Nazi fanaticism was big in America. Holding a convention at Madison square garden. Just stop it was the policy of America to hate all immigrants then and now
Excellent point, this is wildly annoying to me as well.
Collectived guilt is how they get us to accept our own replacement in our home countries.
The goal isn’t to educate. The goal is to shame and demoralize.
PBS is a pale shadow of what it used to be now it's a one way street of ideology.
TBH, they were probably communist from the start, but couldn't get away with pushing what they do now.
PBS taught me that being White is just a political contrivance created by my ancestors to establish a racial hierarchy (with Whites on top, of course).
Silly me. I always thought it had to do with being ancestrally and culturally European.
Later I learned that these enlightened ideas came directly from ]evvish scholars who were given refuge here in the US after the Holocaust.
I'm so glad that PBS is using all of our tax dollars to teach us such important and enlightening understandings of reality.
44:45 "Darkest moment in humanity's history" compared to WHAT?! The GULAG? The Lao Gai? Hitler's death totals are overwhelmed by Stalin or Mao!
But apparently right wing conservatives are the violent ones..
you could combine all of the deaths from colonialism and religious conquest, from the entirety of history , and it would not add up to even one of those communist tyrants.. thats not even including pol pot, ciacesku, mugabi, idi amin, gueverra, castro , and the many other murderous communists and socialist .. heck, even mussolini was a die hard socialist. He was the editor of their newspaper … he was kicked out because he was violent , he didnt disavow socialism , he just added steroids to it and they called it fascism, then somehow linked it to conservatives.. it is still a totalitarian collectivist ideology though
Funny how they ignore communism, pol pot, the holodomor. Also funny how the ones telling the story and playing victim made up the overwhelming majority of the Bolsheviks.
@@jacobsuckit4214 Ken Burns couldn't make his ignorant "documentaries" on the War Between the States and put it on tv if he were not in league with the you-know-whose media and the you-know-whose-iversities, rich but reds. It's always not merely a matter of whom the Communists control but who control the Communists (Armand Hammer, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Soros, Bezos, etc).
Let’s not forget the Khmer Rouge. The killing fields and the attempt to eliminate education.
@@Bynggo "Reason" is starting to play footsie a bit too much with woke mainstream idiots like Ken Burns with his stupid propaganda "documentaries" and beat up on sensible practical libertarians like Hermann-Hans Hoppe almost like they're competing with the most idotic "leadership" elements of The Ayn Rand Institute. I'm trying to fit my head around Ayn Rand OR Murray Rothbard or ANY sensible libertarian, conservative or even ANY SENSIBLE PERSON OF ANY POLITICAL STRIPE wanting EITHER to nuke Iran and perhaps the entire Islamic world (an actual ARI speaker I heard give a lecture) OR allow invading armies from Asia and Africa to take over The West (an article for complete open immigration in a printed copy of Reason magazine I saw not so long ago) which would have the INEVITABLE consequence of higher taxes and CONSTANT violence in the streets. I'll retire to bedlam.
There gratitude for America joining WWII, freeing the camps, but what u expect, nothing ever good enough
Ummm, we joined WW2 after having our major Pacific naval base torpedoed and bombed to the bottom of the ocean. So.....that might have had something to do with it.
Wooden doors.
This film is an open boarder propaganda piece.
What about the Palestinian Holocaust??
The poor few tens of thousands dead after a lot of wars, attacks and 74 years.
Thank You 🙏
I tried to articulate the SS St. Louis issue in a paper in high school but my teacher would have none of it.
They have a tight control over the academic sector, its part of the pillars of a society, today they control all the pillars. If it wasnt for alternative ways to get the word across they'd have total censorship over the people in the countries they occupy.
That's sad. That case provides context. It's also important to know what we knew and when. Good for you for broaching a lesser known subject.
Well now it's Ok.
We should talk about the USS Liberty too...
I find it amazing that so many ppl reject any discussion of the issues. I was arguing on a more or less libertarian/econ forum the German NAZI law actually allowed some fractional Jews who assimilated, rejected Judaism, or served in their wars to remain. It's in their written laws available from German museum sources. I even cited some examples. I would never argue that those requirements, nor any maltreatment of those who don't comply, is moral or decent. The moderator insisted the I was wrong, that NAZIs were cartoonishly evil, and I was asked to leave the forum.
There was certainly something very very wrong with Germany in that era, and also but a lot less the US that didn't offer refuge to SS St.Louis. No - entire nations did NOT go insane. We ought to seek to understand how & why decent ppl would do these things, or else they will recur.
You create Weimar conditions...expect Weimar solutions...God willing.
There are a lot of prize a-holes making comments here, showing precisely why this documentary is so important and timely.
Sad that we've not really progressed much as a species.
Ken mentions our change in immigration laws that effected how we react to immigrants from the America's and that are part of our big problem today. If you want to learn how we got here this is the best video Iive seen explaining our history with immigration and how some reforms broke the system: th-cam.com/video/iKHl__BEsD0/w-d-xo.html
1965 immigration act
Kollerstrom: 'Breaking The Spell': 6M occult number
Ken complains of othering. There’s no other system that weaponizes this as identity socialism.
Ahhh! Good point! Didn't think that. Thanks for the comment.
I read an article talking about how FDR relaxed some of Hoovers anti immigration policies and winning his election by drawing Jewish and Italian immigrants into national politics. So I wonder if this documentary mischaracterized FDR a little bit.
yes it does...its kind of a hatchet job on FDR...basically its trying to blame US southern Jim Crow for the Holocaust...which is an ignorant conclusion...anti semitism in Europe was alive and well for a thousand yrs...hence the Pogroms that have happened for before the US was even a country
its typical of US revisionist history today...combining truth with false conclusions to somehow blame American History for the worlds ills
Well some people believe that FDR was anti semtic himself due to how he did little to help Jewish refugees escape from the Nazis. FDR himself did notoriously send countless Japanese Americans into internment camps just because of their ancestry and it is said that FDR personally had racist views towards Japanese Americans and him putting Japanese Americans in internment camps was partially motivated by his personal racist views towards them. So the possibility that FDR was personally anti semtic himself isn’t completely unfounded.
America is the last hope for humanity
Most schizo comment I have ever seen
Burns and Novick are much smarter than me. Speak better, too. A message about learning from history is always good and useful. More people should think and listen.
Yet, comparing 1940-48 to 2012-2020 is difficult. This interview, and Burns/Novick work is so, so helpful. Burns is a legend, and has affected our culture beyond measure. The thesis for this work can be debated. (wish Burns would appear on a panel, with opposition.)
Why do you say Burns or Novick are smarter than you are? ROTFLMAO
I don't follow the logic. The Johnson-Reid Act was noted earlier as an anti-Catholic (Southern and Central European 'ethnics') measure but then is noted later as the reason German Jews were not let in? Are they referring to Polish Jews? And how is a blatantly anti-Catholic piece of legislation antisemitic?
Listening farther, this whole talk is a mess...
It's not about intent for leftists, it's about outcome, but only in selected instances.
Example: if a law that's intended to be universally applied disproportionately impacts Blacks in a negative way, that law is then "racist" to a leftist.
This is the argument they made against mandatory minimums for crack cocaine.
Of course, this standard doesn't apply when it's Whites who are disproportionately impacted in a negative way.
No leftist ever argued that the law which established mandatory minimums for methamphetamine was "racist" against Whites.
Carl Marx - Moses Mordecia Levy.
Vladimir Lenin- Vladimir Ilich Ulyanov.
Trotsky - Lev Davidvich Bronstein
Stalin - Losif Dzhugashvii.
Marx wasn't a Jew lol
@@matthewepshtein9026 yes he was
@Hey Hou lol look up crypto-judaism
Keith Woods: "russian" oligarchs.
Igor Kolomoisky.
Great russian famine, Holodomor, Famine in Khazakhstan, Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda, Aron Solts, Filipp Goloshchyokin, Yakov Yurovsky, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Naftaly Frenkel, Salomon Morel, Helena Brus.
Ereget Raschi Erod.22 30
Baba Mezia 114b
Libbre David 37
Sabba Mecia 114,6.
Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D.
Tosefta. Aboda 8, 5,
Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia
Rothbard, mises, friedman, block, rand.
Ken Burns said it was nothing what you are showing. He said it’s the same as Martha’s Vineyard where families we’re allowed to walk around together eating ice cream.
Majority of Russian Jews, during so called Revolution and civil war period were either on bolshevik's side or were bolsheviks themselves. So, talking about "Bolshevik pogroms", seem strange to me.
They actually do attack each other all the time, it's just that the media never reports that. It's one of the reasons they never, in their entire history, have ever been able to build their own country.
Majority of jews in germany supported it during WWI.
I watched it in the UK on the BBC. An amazing documentary. Very detailed analysis. It brought new dimensions to the Holocaust that I hadn't previously been aware of.
Read the pamphlet "Germany Must Perish!" by Theodore Kaufmann.
Nazi-Occupied Norway Offers a Glimpse of What Hitler Wanted for the Entire World
The German occupation of Norway from 1940 to 1945 witnessed a remarkable building campaign to align this northern land with Hitler’s New Order. From gleaming highways and ideal cities to maternity centers for a purified Nordic race, plans to remake Norway into a model “Aryan” society fired the imagination of Nazi leaders.
These projects have a great deal to tell us about how Hitler and his henchmen envisioned the world under the swastika, which they had begun to construct in Norway. As the Greater German Reich expanded and stretched beyond the Arctic Circle, the Nazis wasted no time leaving their mark on the new territories. Their efforts to reshape occupied Norway, including everyday spaces where people lived and worked, give us a preview of the deeply ideological environments Hitler foresaw emerging in the wake of his ultimate victory, even in those nations he considered potential allies.
The Nazis believed that Norwegians were racially (although not culturally) superior to Germans, and Hitler hoped to win them over to his worldview. Rather than deploy the policies of mass extermination and slave labor used in Eastern Europe, he courted them using propaganda and incentives. With ambitious architecture and infrastructure projects, Hitler sought to literally and figuratively build bridges to Norway’s citizens, bringing them into the fold of his Greater German Reich. Yet despite claims made by the occupiers that Norwegians and Germans shared a special bond as Nordic brothers, Hitler’s construction schemes expose a deeply colonial mindset.
Within months of the April 1940 invasion, the Nazis had begun to develop sweeping plans for the transformation of Norway’s towns and landscapes. They viewed these changes to the physical environment as preconditions for the incorporation of Norwegians into the Greater German Reich and, importantly, also for the long-term presence of German rulers in this northern land. The Nazis had no intention of withdrawing, even as they publicly promised the Norwegians that the occupation was only a temporary measure to “protect” them from British aggression.
New Trondheim was the most grandiose of the projects, an entirely new city for Germans that Hitler commissioned Albert Speer to design on the Trondheim Fjord, which was also the intended site of a vast new German naval base. Hitler imagined New Trondheim as the German cultural hub of the north, and thus “fabulously built,” as he told Joseph Goebbels, with a German art museum and opera house as well as other luxurious amenities. Among the attractions of this location was the neighboring city of Trondheim and its association with the Vikings, a legacy the Germans wanted to appropriate for themselves. Knowledge about the new city and naval base was tightly controlled to avoid provoking the Norwegian resistance.
The Nazis’ desire to create ideal urban environments in occupied Norway-whether for the German rulers or the occupied Norwegians-underscores the importance of town planning for Hitler and his architects, who treated urban spaces as stage sets for the performance of the Volksgemeinschaft, the racial community. Even before seizing power, Hitler had begun to sketch out the architectural foundations for a new Germany, which later also shaped his ideas of empire building. The Germans invested considerable resources to create physical environments that would support a new social order in occupied Norway.
Although the occupiers did plan monumental projects, their broader strategy for intervening in Norwegian towns focused more on coopting existing environments rather than on erecting edifices that stood apart from their sites. We see this clearly in the reconstruction schemes for 23 Norwegian towns damaged in the 1940 invasion. Albert Speer oversaw the Norwegian architects tasked with rebuilding, who were expected to produce designs in accordance with town-planning principles developed in Nazi Germany. As in Germany, Speer favored neoclassical styles for public structures, including those meant to house new Nazi institutions, but he also accommodated Norwegian ideas of placemaking. Above all, the power of racial ideology in these reconstructed Norwegian towns derived from Nazi values becoming embedded into everyday spaces and everyday lives.
Even as Hitler reassured Vidkun Quisling, the head of Norway’s puppet government, that Norway would soon regain her independence, the Germans settled in for the long term. Beyond the cultural metropolis envisioned for themselves on the Trondheim Fjord, the creation of other exclusive German spaces indicates the occupiers’ attention to their own needs as rulers. Among these projects were the Soldatenheime, cultural and recreational centers that Hitler commissioned for the 400,000 German troops stationed in Norway. Generously designed and furnished, with theaters that showed German films, restaurants that served German food and walls that were decorated with German art, the Soldatenheime represented self-contained German worlds that reinforced the troops’ national identity in a foreign land.
If the German occupiers, despite their ideology of Nordic brotherhood, kept themselves spatially and culturally apart as rulers, they promoted fraternization of another sort. Occupied Norway became a locus of the Lebensborn program, initiated in Germany by SS leader Heinrich Himmler in 1935 to encourage the birth of Aryan babies. Intending to harvest the Norwegians’ supposedly superior genes to improve the racial health of the German population, the Nazis established more maternity centers in Norway than in any other country, including Germany. Treating these children like other natural resources in Norway that could benefit the Fatherland, the Nazis devised a pipeline that sent hundreds of babies from Norway to Germany during the war years.
When we look to Norway, we see not only the Nazis’ self-serving ideals of Nordic brotherhood taking form, but also, more broadly, how they envisioned their relationship to the conquered regions-especially the North, a place both physical and mystical to them. The Nazis considered the invasion of Norway to be a homecoming: they claimed that Germans had originated in the North and were finally returning, making the land their own again. Building was central to their strategy of dominance and re-appropriation. For all these reasons, the occupying Nazis invested enormous resources in the effort to remodel Norway. Ultimately, that transformation was in the service of their imagined Aryan empire and their role as its masters. That empire, thankfully, never came to be-but in these northern building blocks lies a striking clue as to the depth of Nazi desire to create total worlds.
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While Norwegian babies flowed southward, Germans moved northward. Among other infrastructure projects, Hitler commissioned a superhighway that would have stretched from Trondheim to Berlin. Such transportation systems would have tethered the peripheries of Hitler’s European empire to its center, Berlin. The superhighway to Trondheim was also designed to encourage German tourists, driving their Volkswagens, to familiarize themselves with the northern reaches of their empire. Hitler believed that, in the wake of his victorious armies, this type of road travel would help Germans identify with the new territories of the Greater German Reich, preparing them to fight to retain them in the future.
In the end fascinating take, it's like blaming Ted Bundy's neighbors for not calling the police on him more often.
it's not a sophisticated take at all.
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I am doing a project and I really want to know who directed this documentary. Thank you!!
Ken Burns is one of my favorite Documentary film makers and his 3 part episodes on the Holocaust was great. Recommended for anyone who wants to learn more about this dark period in history.
BS
No mention of the British, who held back Germany for over years, otherwise we'd all under the German yoke!!!
Ken Burns has become a woke sellout. 🤡🌎
Why is Holocaust the only genocide it's cool to deny??
@@matthewepshtein9026 No one is denying the Holocaust…only Ken Burns’ anti-American bullsh#it propaganda.
He's always been a little woke watch his baseball documentary from. 1994. It goes into race alot.
I still like him though
@@jessepferr2814 Could that be because....hmmm let me think about this.... baseball was a totally segregated sport for decades?
Whats the word for jewish racists towards christians and muslims? Are jews islamaphobic or anti-romance language? Or anti-goyim maybe.
We dont hear enough about the young turks either.
Oka, I haven’t listened d to this i it’s entirely, but blast they all seem to be ignoring the fact the Americans were just blasted broke during this time…lFDR and the NewDeal had done what it could, but still most Americans were out of money and out of hope. And they could not care less about any other group coming into the country while they themselves were starving. I don’t see any anti religious or anti national motivation. Folks were simply out of hope and money.
Really easy to say that you'd take in the Jewish immigrants from a comfy 21st century life of privilege with zero worries about whether or not your children would eat, AND with the benefit of hindsight. What are people doing right now about the Uiguir Muslims in Xinjiang? What did people do about the Rohingya? What about the people who were dying in Syria, Lebanon, Libya, etc in the past 10-20 years? We focus on it for a second with a reference to the Holocaust and how we need to let in all the refugees, and then we ignore them. You're very right that Americans were not in a good place, and frankly, none of us is capable of deeply caring for everyone in the world, even in comfortable circumstances.
I don't know how big of Ken Burns fan I am, but I am a big fan of Nick being able to interview Ken Burns. Great stuff.
Nick is a sharp cookie. I’ve come to love Reason much more over the past six years. They’re not just setting an example of what being a conservative really means (and not the alt right authoritarianism that claims to be conservative), but when they engage with liberal thinkers like this, they set an example of what American Virtue is. As more and more of the right has fallen into a fascist delusion, it is heartening that we still have a few good people carrying the torch of conservatism.
Thank you for this
The truth can never stay hidden for long.
Like a secret, it will be found and the longer it's suppressed, the bigger the impact it will have on the masses.
You people have been spouting thag nonsense since the end of the war and each and every time most people think you guys are nuts. The only place in the world that stuff has a hold is Muslim countries
@@ManiacMayhem7256 Most people are collective idiots that let others do the thinking for them.
Muslim countries are one of the few places left in the world that is not under jewish influence. So what's your point?
These comments tell any sane person all they need to know about "libertarians"
oy vey!
Wait till these people find out Mises, Rothbard, rand, friedman... were the one's they hate.
as i recall Neturei Karta (Anti-Zionist Jewish Sect) has an entirely different view on the Holocaust especially powerful/rich jews preventing jews from leaving Germany
Haavara Agreement
Realizing odd similarities between Ford and Musk..
TLDW; the world is racist
In my last year of high school my history teacher brought in pictures of Dachau ovens, body piles, and others of the holocaust horrors telling us you can’t say this didn’t happen. These are proof that a group of people were systematically killed as less than human beings. His father had fought for the Kaiser in WW1, immigrated to America and he had been an interpreter for the American commanders because of his fluency in German. His emphasis was true then and now. There is only one race: the HUMAN RACE!!! The attempts of Trump to declare foreigners poisoning the American blood … a Nazi theme … should be resisted.
Never have anything bad to say about eastern countries, just western European countries
Not necessarily true. I believe Reason had a piece on Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and the gulags.
They're not an eastern organisation, nor involved in eastern culture or eastern traditions - why would they have anything meaningful to say about random eastern historical events?
FYI This is NOT the new documentary which is on PBS right now
Very tedious. I used to like and watch lots of Ken Burns stuff on PBS as a kid, but he's become unlistenable, honestly. This is indistinguishable from the weekly religious Power Hour with pastor xyz. It's literally just leftist religious preaching at this point and it's frankly very very dull. This is an interesting historical topic and deserves serious rigorous treatment, but it's just being used as a cypher now for woke lefties to virtue signal their kumbayah incantations to each other. I think I would be very interested to see a conservative historian's documentary on this subject instead.
Notice it’s always right wingers that hate truth and claim it’s “political” it’s like they don’t live in this reality- oh wait they don’t
You realize that Burns is about to get cancelled on Twitter for saying "there is only one race", right?
@@jswap1 Karma's a bitch, I can care less about Ken's career.
I don't think it is Ken Burns who's changed just based on my observation that his film style hasn't changed in 30 years. Is it this interview or the documentary?
Why are you here?
Kanye west needs to watch this
Concerning whether German atrocities in WW 1 were exaggerated, is still in dispute.
Says who??
@@ruthpiazza2831 Non Jewish historians and documentation
Great show, thanks.
They did undermine our country
Who knew Hellen Keller was based
You can see that same themes are happening now as we speak .
The truth should be told. Thank you.
Truth is on the horizon and always ahead and never arrived at.
Steve Carlton was a hall of fame pitcher with the Cardinals and Phillies. although he never talked to the press, he did have one interview with Phil Lyons after he retired. Carlton went on about these "Elders of Zion" living in a cave in Europe deciding the fate of the world. We read it at work and howled in laughter at the ridiculous of it. Until i found out that these "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was an actual thing with supporters. then it scared me
ridiculousness*
People still believe "Protcols of the Elders of Zion"is still taken seriously today...it is why censorship /cancel culture is sequestering people poisoned by literature like this to these alternative social media sites where people are in a sort of bubble..the media lies so much so people who believe pure fiction is reality.We need to allow bad ideas so we can counter bad ideas with good ideas with facts and reason...it is so easy for a disenfranchised person to sit alone in there room and be indoctrinated with conspiracy theories and hateful ideology...canceling this people tends to radicalize them...especially when everything is called racist when there is zero evidence for racism..Bret Weinstein was called racist literally for standing against actual racism at Evergreen State College.... certainly the very opposite of racist!
Is this interview available?
Thank you for reminding us as human beings. We all need to remember all of this . 🙏🙏
More America Bashing by a guy I used to really admire for his documentaries until all the prevaricating in his, 'The Central Park Five'! Ken Burns is never to be trusted again.
HE SAID THAT AMERICA WASNT PERFECT THEREFORE HE WRONG!1!1!1!1!1!1!
@@matthewepshtein9026 Well, it was, it just isn't anymore.
This Documentary was not very well advertised, or was it? I don't remember seeing or hearing much about it. I thought it was up and coming, but it aired a month ago!
its pbs, not netflix. I'd say documentary as a genre pre streaming wasn't very popular. Also, I have the feeling that americans arent into entertainment that they percieve paints them as the bad guys.
My grandfather never wanted to talk about the war... I understand, it didn't make for pleasant conversation on Christmas, or Thanksgiving, or a birthday. One of the very few things he ever said, "I'm not so sure that we were the good guys", and that the German soldiers were very brave and honorable men!
Plot twist: your grandfather was Romanian.
General Patton said that we fought the wrong people. Meaning we should have fought the Russians. Then he died mysteriously. First being injured in a suspect auto collision. Then after marked improvement - sitting up eating and talking, died in the hospital.
@@NateWilliams190 technically in the begging we were fighting Russia as they allied with Germany it's only Germany tried taking Russian land that they allied with America