I know we love them but let's be honest, Fox Body Mustangs Suck!
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The fox body Mustang took the world by storm in 1979 and are probably even more popular today. Something about those boxy little Mustangs just talks to us but let's be honest, when it comes down to it, they are not great cars. We love them so much we overlook all their flaws, and if you own one, you know what I am talking about!
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My stock mustang with gears went mid 13s lol seems pretty quick to me
Lol, foxbody mustangs suck because when you have one, you want MORE and all the aftermarket goodies available for it!!
I love my notchback,AND YES, it’s sucks I can’t have many more, especially the rare ones…(imo):)
Ty for sharing
As an original owner of a 1992 Mustang GT, my single biggest criticism would be the over-boosted, loose steering feel. Not exactly confidence inspiring!
Both me and my brother are over 6’ and 200lbs, and the driver seat was first thing to start leaning within a month of buying the 91 we had.
I've been around foxbodies all my life and never really had all the problems people claim to have with these cars. Like anything else you have to take care of them and they'll last forever. Any car can suck If you beat the piss out of it and don't take care of it. JMO
I agreee mine has 289000 miles very dependable owned 28 yrs its a 89 fox conv 5.o.. love it
The foxbody is no longer simply a mustang. It has become a blank canvas for performance. As much as you may not like it, the foxbody is always the answer in the end.
Yeah, but............what I liked most about my 1986 GT was the rear seat room was comfortable for two adults to ride from San Diego to Las Vegas in the rear seat, and the liftback design made a very useful cargo hauler. Took the GT on many camping trips and in really bad weather my wife and I slept in the back with the rear seats folded. With the 5 speed manual it got 25 mpg on regular and I thought 200 hp was great.
Ah…these things “add character “. 😂. Can we get an honorable mention for rear drum brakes too?
LMR came out with nice door handles
They sold out with in hours
I saw that! Looks like a nice product!
Get the metal door handle
13 seconds in a 1/4 is fast ngl
No tilt in the mustang but tilt with same exact steering wheel on 90 to 93 Lincoln mark vii
I'm the original owner of my '91 ragtop and I've said the same thing for a lot of years. When you get right down to it, these cars do kind of suck. However, I love mine to death and will never get rid of it. In spite of all the short comings, and there are plenty, it's just so damn much fun. Put the top down, take a drive to the beach and you couldn't take the smile off my face with plastic surgery. Look at it this way, a foxbody is still way better than any contemporary car that came out of England!
I had a 93GT convertible, 93 LX 5.0 Hatch and a 91GT I nicknamed the slug as it was an AOD. I put subframe connectors on the convertible also had BBK headers, off road h pipe, flowmaster mufflers, tremec 5spd, 3.73 rear gears, larger throttle body, larger mass air, k&n cone filter, 24 lb injectors, phenolic spacer, hurst short shifter. It’s best at the drag strip was 13.95 @ 107 but so much fun. Didn’t mod the other two except the LX had 3.55 rear gear and k&n filter. My 2020 Mustang EcoBoost would blow them all away.
I have owned 4 of them (2x79, 86, 93). Fun cars, but yes, poorly built. Basically a Fairmont. There I said it. My current S197 and S550 cars are soooo much better in every way. Still would like a 93 Cobra for the collection though.
We still love ‘em too!! Just having a little fun at their expense
I would have never guess a 2022 car is better than a 80’s or 90’s car! Thank you so much for the information
Only 4 things that suck on foxbodys.... torque boxes, strut towers, ash tray and those 4 cats from the factory other than that I think they’re perfect atleast that’s me anyway
My biggest complaint about the foxbody is the rattling noises. Other than that, I love my 92 GT even though it drives me insane. 😂 ❤
100% agree. I spend half my time in my 93 GT tracking down a variety of rattles. Dash, rear seats, hatch, etc. My wife is tired of me asking her to sit in the back while I drive so she can tell me where the rattle is coming from. However I'll never sell my Fox, love that car!
275hp in '65, close to the same as 200hp in the '80s. Back east in the winter, what doesn't rust? 3 Foxes so far, no broken door handles so far, one window broken (car prowl).
Hey...my mom had a 1980 mustang Ghia. Anybody remember that? 😂
I am the proud owner an 87 LX 5.0 5 speed Coupe . The first moment I drove the car I was enamored with the car. Have been tinkering for 33 years with it and still amazed with the car.
The truth is that the quality of this cars leave a lot to be desired.
Truly they are a piece of shit, but still I love it 😂
“Your mom goes to college…”
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The real use for a convertible Fox Body is to make a speedster out of it. Roofs are for fools.
Got to get the metal door handles factory ones are plastic that’s why they break they become Brittle in weather and due to age. Ford should have made them metal from the factory
Foxbody are good fir efi swaps in classic mustang like I did to my 69 fastback. Plus foxbody are good candidates for newer engine swaps like a coyote or ecoboost swap which I did to my 92 coupe
At least they didn’t have an abs module that schidt’s the bed for $1200.00
You can make them vary fast
Despite all the problems foxbodys have I'd still rather have a fox than a 2023 mustang much easier to work on and not filled with electronics mine doesn't make a lot of power yet but I have my 2011 5.0 daily driver to fill that void but even stock I still enjoy driving my foxbody
Just picked up a 86 last year with 37k original. Motor was siezed. Put a nice brand new 306,t-5 setup and put gears and chromo shafts in the 8.8. Have the car on a 28" radial right now. Ill be happy with a 13.5 second 1/4 mile for this 30 year old car with 250 hp. If i wanted to run 10s i would just put more power into it and upgrade the suspension. Yes 30 years ago they were slow. But everything was back then? What about the 305 cameros? DOGS .. this video is somewhat accurate but look at what foxbodys are doing now a days.
I still miss my 1889 5.0
Wow! 1889? You must have been living in another timeline where Mustangs were already available in 1889.
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Do the new edge next
i remember Ford was going to make the new probe the mustang, still love my 93 fox vert
What about the LMR low profile handles that just came out a few weeks ago that are out of stock those seem interesting
I never had to tilt a wheel to get in or out.
I imported a 1990 GT convertible to the UK in 1993. Immaculate condition, 10k miles. Even for then it was pretty bad though. Sounded good, looked ok for the time, which I why I bought it. but it was so bloody slow, I was out dragged by ordinary 2 litre cars, brakes were terrible and the body twist was so bad I initially thought it was 2 cars welded together, lol.
But despite all their flaws we still love these damn cars ❤
I now have an s550 and whilst not perfect, it is night and day better than a Fox.
Agreeable bullet point outs, however most us just are gonna bastardize that damn fox, throw an iron block LQ4/9 in between towers and slap a on3 on'er and go 10's and call it "good". 🤘🏼😉
Also true :) can’t say I am a huge fan of the LS swap but they do run
And the newer stangs are put together even worse.
All so true and so sad cuz we love these cars cuz they're still fun and pretty badass we got to admit it for as little horsepower as they have a few bolts ons you can make them get up and go still nothing to today's standards but you put a 16 17 year old kid in one they wrap it around a pole now you have a thousand horsepower factory cars and it's even worse they kill themselves or somebody else because they can't handle it I mean the average car is 500 horsepower pretty much out of the factory nowadays or better... The door handle thing on the other hand I don't know if you guys have seen LMR new Fox body billet door handles but they're pretty slick and definitely going to hold up it looks like they're just a bit on the pricey side...
Ok bill. Your right. They suck. To help you out I'll dispose of the black hatch behind you..... it's the least I can do to help you
LMR sells a new design door handle for the Fox now
I feel like I need to sell mine now 🤔 🤣😄
Lol @ 0:24 he says fox body mustangs are not very fast what is CJ PONY PARTS SMOKING
but is right about the cheap door handles breaking I have been through 2 of them now
Not smoking much with most stock fox body’s :). But obviously the potential is unlimited and we love these cars despite having a little fun 😂
Ford had the door handle answer and then forgot it. The pot metal chrome jobs on the 79 to 86 stand up better than the plastic replacements in the 87-93. Shit, people and Ford just reproduced those in black to solve the problem back then.
They're not bad but I like them
I just hate that mid 80's to early 90's plasticky interior design/texture. Not just Fox Mustangs but all makes and models in that time period. Just faded plastic looking junk. I can see the cracked yellow stained plastic interior trim and smell the cigarettes just thinking about it.
SVE Flush Mount Door Handles...
couldn't agree more about the cheapo chinese grade door handles
I never got it. I looked at them as poor excuses for a Mustang. I didn’t buy one until the s197 2014 and then it’s a summer car.
Your 1st point is ridiculous, you're comparing a just out of the smog addled 70's to cars build in the height of the muscle/pony car era? Never mind that a 90 GT can outrun a 69 Boss 302. Yes I admit the FB is essentially an economy car that was turned into a sports GT, but that's it's strongest value, the fact that we can take it even further beyond it's humble beginning is the hobby at it's core.
Ford beds are way worse than ram beds. They literally fall off in the rust belt
Also, the foxes were just...ugly compared to the 1st generation. Lets be real.
The SN95 looked much better overall.
Something about those boxy lines just talks to us though. I am a fan of the SN95 as well.
@@cjponyparts I came to like the look of the 65-66 Coupe. But one of my favorites is the 1969 Mach 1 with louvers and a rear wing
They do suck but I love them... they're outdated due to age. Even if you do H/C/I the T5 is glass! Really as much as I dislike S550 cars GT's didn't become complete GT's that doesn't suck until 2015.
Click bait boys this guy drools for foxbodys.. I am super happy views are under 20k
Do not knock they porno red interior
I am a fan! :)
These were bags of shit stock but they were blank canvasses. As I always said back then...Ford sold you the car and then you made the car you wanted. We all had these and they were just better than the competing Camaro or Firebird but, that's as goid as it got, stock.
This video is ridiculous and for them to put out this video is just ridiculous. These cars were great for the day. Look at what they competed with. If we look back at the cars of today 30-40 years from now we will probably have poor opinions of them as well. Why even put this out. What is the motive?
They are OK, but the New Edge are stiffer, have better bits and pieces and are better looking. I still love the Roush Fox Body based Trans Am and GTO race cars, but my sister had a '85 hatchback and it was not great, lots of twist, rattles and shakes.
I've owned my 79 mustang for over 20 years and I've never replaced an exterior door handle.
The only thing that really sucks about them is the once cheap fun cars got the attention of flippers so now even a rotted cut up shit box has stupid asking prices and the parts prices keep climbing. Rest of it is pretty easily fixed if you worked on them long enough. one off the last KISS built cars that is dead simple to work on and keep on the road, I'll keep the one I had for the last 26 years but there no longer the cheap toys to buy, fix up have fun, sell and end up with another one a few months later. For the asking prices these day, nope s550 is a way better toy.
I agree, I’m in the south and a GT foxbody here if it’s still running has 20 edelbroch, holley , bad boy club, stickers , a 4 inch raised hood, huge rear wheels , skinny front wheels, and 10 gauges plastered and duct taped around the dash.
You can tell he wasn't a true mustang fan back in the day
Loved them since they were new, just having some fun.
Lol @ 0:24 he says fox body mustangs are not very fast what is CJ PONY PARTS SMOKING
but is right about the cheap door handles breaking I have been through 2 of them now
For that time period because of the light weight of the foxbody, it WAS the fastest on the street.
@@Hero11170 Maybe for a showroom stock car. That is unless there was a hair-dryer equipped Buick in the next lane or a hopped-up big block from the 60s.
You're CLEARLY new here...
I for 1, do not think Ford Foxbody Mustangs suck!, I think they’re the best cars 🚙 ever and would love 💕 to own a dozen of them.😎😎😎😎😎
@@andreking7138 i AGREeee....mine 289000 miles owned it 28 yrs starts everytime. Honestly
Honorable mention should be the 4 lug wheels. It’s hard to find cool aftermarket wheels with 4 lugs and it just doesn’t look right.
Also true. Five lug swaps are thankfully pretty straight forward.
4 lug draglites look awesome on these cars😉
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I had an 87 and used to take out Corvettes at will back then.
It’s funny you mention the door handles, LMR is realeasing their new design soon. Saw a video on it that came out…yesterday? Day before?
Good to know. I still like the foxbodys my mom used to have one.
Agree with a lot of this but I've never heard of the door handle issue. Maybe I'm lucky. I've owned my '83 GT since 1990. It has over 250,000 miles on it and my handles still work perfectly!
I've owned my 89 5.o.28 yrs conv love it 289000 miles still runs strong and starts everytime
I think 79to 82 and 85 86 were by far the best looking mustangs of the fox days
Now comparin it to today, cant b done, back then it was the bees knees, how do i no cause i bought them from factory
I had to LOL at this video because I agree with all of it! My 87 LX 5.0 I had new was a crap build and so is the 1990 7-up I have now. But boy they are great, fun cars and you'll never find anything else like them! Every time I drive my 7-up it puts a big smile on my face. That said, I remember my 5.0 feeling fast as hell back in the day and now I'm like "I don't remember them being this slow" because my electric Audi is WAY faster than my 5.0!
I mean true, but what car in the latter part of the 70s and most of the 80s didn't suck period lol
I’ve restored All of them for 22 years. They’re by far not the worst built. The 60s mustang are not as fast unless you have a 4 speed 390 or 428. Or a Shelby model.
Mustang 2s and convertible. Sure. But who on earth wants either of those . Fox coupe.
I was concerned about the subject at hand as I used an 89 fox body donor engine for my 65 fastback, come to find out he didn't mention any issues with the 5.0 engine so Im feeling better about my decision, I did add HP to the 5.0 though with AFR heads, headers, mild cam, and roller rockers should make it fun.
Mustang has always taken a cheap ass platform like falcon and changed looks to something more interesting. However still a falcon, pinto, fairmont. Still love em though
Everyone loves these cars now! You see more LS swapped foxes than 3rd gen Camaros
Love those new door handles and my original ones on my 93 still work fine. I lift them gently sooo. Hate the bag wheel and I'm going to put a momo on mine eventually.
The Fox was mainly sold to the public with the idea to get their hands on an average cheap affordable racing car with you upgrading it at your paste if you wanted to make it go faster.
Hilarious! I've saved a half dozen of these over the last several years and just finished a major restoration on an 85. This video is so accurate. I sell them, swear to never buy another and then boom one appears in my garage. Currently restoring an 84 GT350 that has every problem in the book. But a Fox with the right high effort rack, basic suspension upgrades (Eibach Pro's) and at least a set of GT40P's and E cam is such a fun car to tool around in. Just don't forget the Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Crue.
Absolutely the same here!! Buy one, remember all the things fox body, sell it, miss it, repeat! lol
No arguments on the sucky bits, despite my adoration of the 2 Foxbody GTs (1989 Hatchback & 1990 Convertible) in our stable.
Not a month after acquiring the '90, we added braces to shore it up, which made all the difference in the world. Highly recommend! The center console replacement was a lesser but likewise game-changer. Otherwise, she's gorgeous as is, save a few needed maintenance items (egads, weatherstripping), a wonderful driver with just enough vroom to make me smile every time I wake her up. She gets tons of comments when I take her to the school. Foxbody Mustangs seem to be quite popular with the teenaged set in this area, which brings me to the hatchback.
The '89 has been under restoration and just got out of paint. Purchased for my son (now 19) as a workable project for his senior year, he's got his all-black-over-scarlet dream car in the works, and that with an engine that had been stroked by a previous owner. He'd initially wanted a 1992 Civic sleeper, like my husband and I would buy that. 🤨 The moment we showed him the '89 GT for sale, even in its then-unhappy condition, he was all in--and in love when he heard the engine for the first time. He's going to classes at the track with my husband this spring, so that Fox will get braces soon, too. The door handles were the first to get yanked, and we fixed the seats (though he's a lean kid) during the reupholstering. All the other apologies are slowly being fixed, too, as we lego the whole thing back together. It's been the perfect father-son project.
So, yes, the Foxes have needed a little extra love despite being otherwise quite drivable; we've had to overlook some flaws, and indeed, the rest of our stable are 64.5 to 67s. Still, the appeal of those boxy rollers remain. Fox Body Mustangs were new when I was a teenager and young adult, so they're a big part of my first love for a cool driver with a kick, and always will be.
I think needing a little love is why we do love these cars so much! Probably the best blank canvas to build it your way ever!
What’s cars don’t have issues?
Almost everything you said applies to most cars made in that era.
Not a good time period for American cars.
The only thing that sucks about this video is that it was created
Agreed
I dont disagree, but I still love a foxbody. I have owned 7 of them and sold my 93 ssp at the beginning of this year to buy a shelby gt350. I will own another foxbody someday
We love em too! Just having some fun
(feels like you lost your left arm dont it? )
I know the feeling, as s genx'r ive had 8 / 4 coupes, almost had my ninth today in trade (lx hatch)
Ouch. Tilt steering would've been nice replacing my throttle cable. It's like getting an MRI to get in the floor and change the cable. No room. I had to totally reposition every time i needed a different tool or to move my hand to different position.
😂👊🏻
El Fox no es perfecto, pero eso no quiere decir que apeste 🙄🙄🙄
The Fox body is only attractive as a two door notch back coupe and convertible. I don't see what's so appealing with the hatch back🤷
The convertibles are hideous
Only coupe
What is appealing about the hatch back? I would say probably the same thing that made the 65-73 fast back/hatch back’s appealing. The sloped back and how much you could carry in the back. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder though.
My Procharged 93 Cobra that Ive owned since new is one baddest car and I'll put it up against anything on street
I grew up in the fox body era but, I only desire Mustangs from 1965-1973 era, modern coyote 5.0 2018 and up. The fox body 1979-1993 and the rounded body style from 1994-2004 never impressed me at all.
Gave us a list of most common problems lol thanks... just got my second fuel pump from you guys
You forgot to mention the Ignition switch and the PIP sensor, they can leave you stranded at any moment.
We could probably easily make a couple more chapters but we still love em!
I’m ok with all the bad. Especially that all electric crap coming soon lol
You, either love these cars or hate then! He obviously hates them. I grew up wishing it was my 16 bd present! People if you were not around back then... These were Grade A everyone wanted one! Yes in todays standards they didnt come with 800 hp. My older bro had a sweet ass 88 fox GT 5.O I had a vet pass by Rev it up. My bro said get him. I smoked it.
I had a '79 coupe 4cyl when I was 16 and hated it. It was nothing but problems. I got an '83 hatchback v6 when I was 18 and it was much better, had it four years before I got tired and sold it. Now I wish I had kept it. Currently trying to revive a base 2003 that was absolutely butchered.
Ok,kinda. I saw a PRISTINE 93 Cobra a few weeks ago and it was gorgeous.
Funny, I never did not buy a car because of a cupholder. And as an owner of 5 of them. Not 1 was a rattle trap. I would not hesitate to buy another. Stupid video. And coming from CJ's counterproductive as well. If you hate what makes you money, I will go someplace else. No wonder their business is going downhill.
Whatever....why the Foxbody hate? #FOXBODY4LIFE. You can hate them, I will never hate them. They have been a part of my life for over 35 yrs...so there!
Not true. I loved my brand new '87 GT triple white rag top. That said, no comparison to my new '21 Triple black GT 6spd.
Still wanna buy one, just can't find a reasonably priced one.
Good video thxs, I totally agree 👍, I have no idea why there selling for so much money, they look like a dodge dakota most of them lol , but I love them 😁
if you need a good exterior door handle check out LMR. They have a stainless steel one you can paint or leave it mill finish.
I loved my 93 GT. But yes it had issues. Even had a custom drive shaft made for it replaced everything in the suspension and still got vibrations at 110+ mph. But I was pleasantly surprised even at 120k miles on the original motor still made 215hp/275lb ft at the wheels before I started modding. That 5.0 HO was strong.
The fox body Mustangs are nice but, I would rather have a 1965-1972 mustang.